Does Faster RAM Matter?
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- It's a question we all stumble upon at some point when building our personal computers: Should you opt for faster, more expensive RAM, or slower, less expensive RAM? Here, in a revisited video, we put this question to rest.
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Every time you do the exact videos the people want, even though im not asking for specific videos I still always learn from ur videos. Thanks bro ;)
+SpiritOG You bet!
we all do, it is quite funny to see him Win every single debate
Except he only gave 75% of the story. This is classic "let me test an obvious conclusion that has been tested 500 times. Wow, shocker! I got the same results as the last 500 games. I'm right!"
www.overclock.net/t/1438222/battlefield-4-ram-memory-benchmark/0_30
forums.bistudio.com/topic/156993-arma-3-cpu-vs-ram-performance-comparison-1600-2133-up-to-15-fps-gain/
www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2013/october/battlefield-4-loves-high-speed-memory
www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k
ikjadoon the results that you linked to are both a "hicup" and "too inconsistent to include" according to the publisher. while he could have tested more games to prove a point it would have been a waste of time on his part bc the results would have been more or less the same.
Man, going thru these older videos, your sound quality has greatly improved!
Honestly RAM over the last decade for me has just been "what sticks have the best deal/value right now" because RAM almost doesn't matter at all these days. You just get your 8 or 16gb and you're fine almost regardless of specs.
+1,better use the money to get a stronger gpu
RayzeTheDragon comparing frequency when you doubled your Ram.
Face palm.
Bought 8 gigs if nt series for an ok price but was killed by it being incompatible and unable to run at stock frequency
cope, it matters a lot for high refresh gaming.
@@theholypopechodeii4367 2 year old conment but worth to note for everyone. You got that inceease in performance thanks to double the capacity. Not the speed. As speed increase your latency does too. So it really cancels each other. The sweet spot right now (as of May 2019) is 2666MHz with the lowest latency you can find.
short answer NO, just saved you 7 minutes, you're welcome
If he had just said "No", you would be the first to complain "Where is your proof?" :D
Thanks man
The answer from his benches is actaully inconclusive. He didn't set up his gaming bench correctly and so he didn't actually test what he aimed to test. The actual answer is yes, ram speed matters. This would have been obvious if his gta v bench was at max settings on higher resolution, and wasn't gpu bottlenecked.
@AVLRECORDS lol chill why does it even bother you when there are so many lies spread in internet? I mean if you know better about the thing then you are wiser than the avarage. Yeah it's anoying but you still win for yourself.
APU would be the only thing that would see significant increase, in performance as the APU will use the RAM as VRAM. Normal CPU wont see hardly any noticable increase in perfroamnce 1-5fps at most. Good video though, really goes into detail about it.
This. I looked for this comment
This channel, it's provides answers ive been searching for!
I've watched a similar video on LTT channel long time ago. It's good to see another source debunking this ram fallacy.
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i heard ddr5 is x5 faster lol
LOL
look luck with your extra 5 fps for that $300
System or Video RAM?
Lol and pcie 5.0 is faster than 4.0
yeah GDDR5 LOL
Dude you are really making some nice videos.... And definitely putting more concrete final words.... Just keep up nice work..... Viewer's count will grow
I just watched this video again. If you play these games or single players you dont need faster RAM at all but when you play online competitive FPS shooter, anything in real time, faster RAM will benefit you (especially lower timings). And for the people who measure just FPS and say few fps is not a real difference ill say that FPS is not everything. You can have better latency and lower FPS but that latency is the difference between you get the kill or being dead. For people who dont see such difference - get better! You need to be a good player to benefit from faster system.
This channel deserves more publicity.
Keep up the great work, man!
Your videos really open my eyes to the real world performance. Thanks for the work you do.
Glad I found your channel. Lot of good content. Keep it up dude!
Thanks! This really clear thing up for me, so now i know what i'm gonna upgrade.
Imo the timings are more important than the clock speed.
But then again, Ram doesn't make a huge difference like it did 10 years ago.
I remember when I went from 256mb to 512, from 512 to 1024 and 1024 SDRAM to 2048 DDR2. All of these upgrades had noticeable improvement to performance of games.
However when I went from 2048 to 4096 I barely noticed anything.
And 4096 DDR2 to 8192 DDR3 wasn't noticeable at all.
I'm still using 8GB DDR3 ram, my friends are getting 16GB+ ram for gaming, and I laugh at them.
8gb of ram is plenty. However, 16gb isn't pointless, even if all you do is game. I noticed when I upgraded from 8gb, that my system started using more ram. During normal use before I'd use 4-5gb, now doing close to the same thing, I use 7-8gb. Not really sure how that works, but apparently the more ram you have, the more your system will use. Unless I use photoshop or after effects, I never see my system use more than 10gb. So, 16gb isn't pointless to have.
thanks for the video I have been wondering this for a while now!
Great! I'm planning to build a new pc and i hadnt found a clear video like yhis on ram, good thing i subbed!
Ive been subbed to your channel for a while now and i must say i like your style, you always say it as it is and rely on personal tested statistics. keep it up bro!
+ZUKOKBG Thanks for the support!
How does CAS latency affect performance?
It's about 1% in memory-intensive testing on DDR4. You'll never notice in most games, haha.
so speed matters more than latency in gaming, or do neither of them ultimately matter at all? i already have RAM (16 gigs dual-channel 2400 mhz DDR3, 12ms cas latency), i'm just curious
Depends on many things. Sadly, the video doesn't explain them all.
1. Are you GPU-bound or CPU-bound? That is, at the games you play at the settings you have....which is the bottleneck? There's no one answer, but if you're getting less than 60FPS, you're likely only GPU bound and your RAM doesn't matter. At all. This is what the video tested.
2. If you are CPU-bound, are you sure? It's rare, but in a few games, it's more common: BF4, Far Cry 4, Witcher 3, ARMA 3, or GTA V. Compare your CPU & GPU usage. If your CPU usage is at 98%+ a lot, you are CPU-bound.
3. If you're sure you're CPU-bound, let's talk RAM! :D So, yes: "bandwidth", the number of GB/s the RAM can do (higher frequency -> more GB/s) is more important. The CL is hard enough to "tease out" in memory-only benchmarks...it's even harder to tease out in games.
To see the possible increases, check out these benchmarks (oddly not even talked about in the video--maybe it went against his preconceived conclusions):
www.overclock.net/t/1438222/battlefield-4-ram-memory-benchmark/0_30
forums.bistudio.com/topic/156993-arma-3-cpu-vs-ram-performance-comparison-1600-2133-up-to-15-fps-gain/
www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k
www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2013/october/battlefield-4-loves-high-speed-memory
Oddly, also not mentioned in the video: you don't need an "insane" GPU to be CPU-bound. You could just be playing at 120Hz (needing 120FPS).
Again, this video is about "science", but he never talks about the basic assumptions.
Every frame takes some time for the GPU to draw and some time for the CPU to draw. If both the CPU & GPU can draw a frame in under 16.67ms (1000/60), you have a 60FPS framerate. Right? 60 frames in a second. That means, each frame took 16.67ms to draw.
In most games, the CPU draws the frame much faster than 16.67ms. Maybe only 5ms. But, let's say your GPU takes 20ms to draw that same frame. They both start drawing the frame at the same time. Your CPU finishes quickly. But, the GPU is still working. And still working. Finally, after 20ms, the GPU is done, too. So, the total time for that frame is 20ms (they begin at the same time). 1000ms / 20ms = 50. 50FPS. If you upgrade your CPU or RAM here, NO change in FPS! Your CPU will finish in 3ms now. But, you'll still be waiting on the GPU. This is what the video tested.
However, in some games, in some scenarios, your CPU actually takes longer than the GPU! Say the GPU is at 10ms. But, your CPU is slow: each frame is taking it 15ms. Here, you have a CPU bottleneck. If you upgrade or increase your CPU speed, you will get an FPS increase.
Thus, that's it. That's how you figure out if you need faster CPU/RAM or faster GPU speeds. Lots of games now tell you long the GPU or CPU are taking to draw frames. Upgrade accordingly.
Regarding latency vs bandwidth: in games, it's usually bandwidth, but latency helps, too. Check out the ARMA 3 benches I posted.
But, again. Please verify you are CPU bound before you upgrade or change your RAM. People that upgrade anyways are exactly the people who shout from the rooftops, "RAM doesn't mean anything! It's all marketing!"
These people....don't understand the underlying science.
I know that if you are running integrated (or an apu), ram speeds are very important in gaming, since they draw system memory as video memory, I was just wondering for a PC with a good GPU and competent CPU (r9 390 and i5 4690) if one would be more important than the other. The only game I play that pushes my system currently is battlefront (and star citizen, but that's in pre-alpha still)
What settings? What FPS do you have and what FPS do you want?
Again...you are likely GPU bound and faster RAM won't matter.
Star Citizen--I've heard rumors it's very CPU-bound, actually. You'll have to check yourself on your system with your settings. :-/
In conclusion...nobody knows if you're actually GPU bound or CPU bound. Until you actually check the frame times. :(
If you just want purchasing advice, buy the fastest RAM you can in your price range. That's usually good enough, haha, and I'm sure that's what ScSt does (for his rendering, apparently).
that moment when you are still rockin' 666 mhz ddr3 ram xD
Hey! Great channel. Could you do a video on explaining what ram is, what ddr is, what CAS latency is, other ram related things, and how it all relates to performance?
Very well said. You can't notice any difference on RAM speeds when you're just playing games. On the other hand, RAM speeds are for workstation related task such as video editing, large file transfer and rendering files. First hand experience here. Again thank you for clearing this up. Very informative videos, thumbs up man!
+Adrian Cabaddu I appreciate it!
Thanks for these videos on RAM speeds and numbers of cores! I've been wondering what difference it makes.
Thanks for the views! I appreciate it.
I have a challenge for you that you could possibly make a video on. Here's the challenge, get a A10 7860K APU, and run that as your main system for a week. If you want to make the challenge harder, edit/render all your videos on it.
+Virtual Kunai we all know it would be a lot slower compared to any of his superclocked i5`s. But still, it probably wouldn`t feel unusable. Stop with subliminal AMD bashing :D.
I was using 16 gb of corsair 1333 from my old pc in my current pc. I upgraded to 16 gb of Kingston HyperX Beast @ 2666. Barely noticeable in most games. Fallout 4 however I gained an extra 5-10 FPS. Was it worth the extra money. No. It looks really cool though. LOL!
can you give me the old memory?
but what is the price difference on the two thats what I want to know ?
I'm rocking 16gb of the cheapest 1333 ram I could find. Fortunately it overclocked to 1600 with super low latency and performs great.
Based on my research, 1600 is the best balance between 1333 up to 2133 range.
I don't understand why did you not equaled the CAS latencies.
And how can you discredit 3 or 4 fps plus on min fps. Possibly the most relevant score in games
Haha. Poor guy is stuck with a GTX 960. That's why he can't see any improvements. If you buy more expensive GPUs, you need commensurately faster RAM:
www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k
u make great videos but do u really use ur monitor tilted that way?
It's not tilted.
Looks Tilted
+ZaydelJmz Camera angle :-)
+Science Studio yea, its camera angle if you look closely
not really surprising at all, these tests have been done between every generation, pitting the fastest last gen RAM against the launch fastest new-gen RAM according to JEDEC specifications, and the differences are almost only ever seen in synthetic benchmarks that specifically test memory speed. I remember seeing these benchies against DDR1 400 and DDR2 800, then DDR2 800 against DDR3 1600. There was a difference, but it was so small that most reviewers just recommend upgrading elsewhere.
OMG THE SOUND QUALITY WAS SO BAD IS THESE OLDER VIDEOS!!!
Informative vids, thanks man.
The RAM speed doesn't matter that much because the processor does not access the RAM for most of its calculations. All necessary variables are once in a while pulled into the processor cache and then edited there. The processor cache usually has a data transfer rate of about 1TB/s whereas the RAM is a lot slower with about 25GB/s.However in programming there are cases where you have to use "volatile" variables which must be stored in the RAM and also edited there (for example for synchronizing multithreaded workloads). Also for certain workloads processor cache isn't enough, like for example video editing or other workloads where huge arrays of data have to be processed. But that's not the case for any games.
so much changed in just over 6 months it's mad
Happy to know. I've never spent the extra $ for faster frequency. Not that I know anything about it... just couldn't afford it.
well since I downloaded C2C mod for Civilization 4 and had freezes because the mod is so big, didn't know what caused it until I overclocked my RAM and the freezes were almost completely gone. So there faster RAM was my solution
I've been researching all day for someone to tell me if it matters to have faster RAM for gaming or not. Thank you.
+kevin vo Thanks for watching!
this is so helpful! keep it up sir ^^
I run a 4790k @ 5 ghz. on an Asrock z97 extreme 6 using g skill ripjaw z cl-7 1600 ddr 3 memory. Timings @ 7-7-7-21 Benchmarks very well against current ddr4 memory. Intel has been selling us a load of bull for some time now. This rig still rocks.
Memory overclocking is hobby for memory enthusiast. People just OC CPU and call it a day. Nobody really care about OC memory. But I find that it is really fun to optimize memory timing , sub timing and to maximize score in benchmark that call for "efficiency" for example every Skylake CPU cap at 4.5Ghz but you must strike for highest score in Geekbench , fastest time in Super PI 32M etc.
Memory with high efficiency (high frequency + low timing like 3866Mhz CL15-15-15-28) also help in gaming when CPU is bottleneck in game like massive battle in Totalwar / Cities Skylines heavily mod (81 tides with > 100K pop). In this scenario faster GPU will not help at all and maybe your CPU is already maximize like 4.8Ghz or 5Ghz. Here memory efficiency will have an important role.
All this video showed me was that I do not need to upgrade my 4770k OC 4.4ghz and 16GB DDR3 2400Mhz RAM.
Performance increase is barely negligible between Haswell and skylake.
I really hate these curved edges of the DDR4 RAMs. Why did they have to do it this way?
I love you, keep up the great videos!
tip: if you build a new rig, look for the RAMs with lowest latency you can find, even if it is the "slower clock" one...
I want to see a video where they leave the clocks alone and just show the difference
People claim that in Overwatch you benefit a lot from faster ram speed, some people even says that they gained like 100 fps average. I wonder if it's true.
little question here. What the hell is happening when you get lower fps than you should get but none of your components reach 70% usage?
I watch videos on this channel to help me make smart buying decisions. It is obvious that I don't have to pay much attention to RAM speed.
Thank you soo much for clearing this up for so many idiots out there that think they know it all LOVE YOUR VIDS!!! keep them coming please :)
i use cruical ballistic elite dual-channel 8gb ddr3-1866mhz ram kit set at cl9-9-9-26@1.5v so timings matter especially if tightening one timing from 27 to 26 and it runs stable still at 1.5v.
After that video I really hope you have another on CAS latency.
Great video man!
That's a nice song playing in the background
The track is called "Beat Your Competition" :)
All people says the same thing except DigitalFoundry. They benched intel I7-7700k and says that higher frequency on ram is important for higher fps in the games and show that in they video.
Just went from DDR3 1333MHZ with my 6600K to DDR4 3000MHZ, keen! should be here soon
Thanks for re-confirming this. Faster RAM is just a waste of money in the vast majority of cases.
For very, very specific workloads, memory speed would matter. But for 99.99% of use cases, RAM speed is all about the e-peen
Thank you for sharing this video. I am running DDR3 @2133MHz and was considering getting a new motherboard that supports DDR4 but after watching this video I will stick with DDR3. Thumbs UP!
I'd like to see you test more games to have a more conclusive answer.
keep doing videos with substance. I enjoy these. Rather than "air vs water coolig!!!". Thanks.
I would argue that the "Air vs. Water Cooling" video had quite a bit of substance!
You should have tested higher resolution digital foundry has some videos on higher resolution and there's difference
I've already said this to many people - their results were amplified because they used an overkill graphics card.
You just confirmed what LinusTechTips said and did long time ago. I can bet almost every tech channel did these tests at some point yet people still argue with the results like idiots.
Well it's good to know RAM frequencies doesn't make a difference other than video editing, I've just recently gotten into editing, but now that tells me a good reason I should see about overclocking my RAM frequency, seeing as Asus' AI Suite 3 allows it, and could automatically OC it if I so choose.
I am building a gaming PC specifically to play/mod Fallout 4, which notoriously scales FPS boosts with memory performance. My choice is just under $200 for a 16gb (2x8) set of G.Skill 3600mhz cas15 DDR4. OC timings down to cas14.
If your CPU is bottlenecking its gonna be noticable difference in some games.Example>I have 2500k 4,7ghz, GTX470 850mhz overclock & 12gb 1600mhz RAM. When I bought 8gb 2133mhz RAM the FPS in BF4 rose about 25fps on LOW settings mostly.
Infact I clocked the old RAM on 1866mhz and saw about 10fps difference. Then bought 2133mhz and saw additional about (more than) 15 FPS.
So on new systems maybe RAM freequencies dont have big impact but thats not always the case.
Perhaps KSP. That game needs a lot of Ram when building high part count craft.
my body moved on its own, clicked subscribe.
Well this just saved me some money. Cheers!!
Im now loving this channel
Nice I found this video to confirm that I don't really need a higher speed RAM for gaming.
You did a great job in this video but people will still say you are wrong, that is just the nature of people and even more so of the internet. People arguing for a increase in a few fps (this is gaming oriented) dedicted to RAM have no regard for ROI, you clearly do. Keep up the great work, people will always poke holes even if they are needlepricks that completely disregard the bigger picture
Actually, he is wrong. He oversimplified a lot, sadly, but that's the audience he's aiming for: "new" PC builders.
It depends on the games you play and what refresh rate you play at. But, this is "Science Studio"--he's just repeating what hundreds of others have already stated. In *some* situations, faster RAM is actually beneficial in *some* games:
www.overclock.net/t/1438222/battlefield-4-ram-memory-benchmark/0_30
www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2013/october/battlefield-4-loves-high-speed-memory
forums.bistudio.com/topic/156993-arma-3-cpu-vs-ram-performance-comparison-1600-2133-up-to-15-fps-gain/
And the best one?
www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k
Look carefully at what games ScSt picked. Oh, yes, GTA:V his CPU-intensive pick? The smallest increase. The Witcher 3 showed an 11FPS improvement.
I have 16GB Corsair DDR4-3600MHz in my Asus Hero VIII with i5-6600k @4.4 and it is stable. However, when it comes to games, I don't think there is a real difference in ram speeds. When I ran my DDR4 3600 at 2133, all my games were the same basically. I already spent the money on the 3600 ram, but if I was to do it over I'd just get DDR4 2133.
I'm not an expert in understanding all this frequency business, but how about another test where you compare RAM clocked in at 1300, 1600, and 2133 as well. What I think is that 2133 is just good enough that an overclock wouldn't be able to make a bigger improvement. Please make a video about this since I"m highly curious about this.
I'm not sure why you'd want any further test. RAM frequency hikes won't change much at all unless you're sporting a low-powered processor or APU.
+Science Studio I don't know, I was just curious.
Maybe I have just gotten lucky but I usually with ease can overclock my ram to the next tier keeping the same CL. I have had the AMD ram which is a bit premium (at least in price) . 1866 was 2133 and my now 2133 is at 2400. Seems pretty straight forward in my bios.
I do wonder what effect it would've had on loading times in general.
I dunno about ddr4 but in ddr3 2133,1866,1600 and 1333 8 gb sticks cost near about the same
I personally buy "faster" RAM and run it at a slower clock speed for a piece of mind in knowing that my RAM is not being stressed.
You will only see significant improvements with faster Ram in gaming in CPU bound situations. Which 99% of the time you won't experience, you would need a CPU intensive game and a GPU that is overly powerful for the resolution you are running at (ex: Titan x running a game at 1080p or 720p).
I would like a video about the differences that a CPU model number and clock speed could be, when referring to this: Would a 4960k be the same as a 4930k if they are both clock at the same frequencies? I am not talking about CPUs with different core count.
your videos are great man!! dont let the haters bother you, remember its the net, and trolls are everywhere... cant wait to see the GTX 1070 reviews tho!!
+Luke Breden I appreciate the words of encouragement!
You were so humble to deal with the NZXT Hue+ problem, why aren't you humble now to admit that you did the tests wrong and the GPU is bottlenecking the CPU and RAM? Use a GTX 1080 in 1080p and you will see faster ram scale and give considerable FPS gain!
and a lot of times, ddr4 2800mhz cost even more...myeah... good video. i figured as much about those tests
Interesting but not surprising. Though you only tested 1 CPU bound game, Total War: Warhammer in a 4 way full stack max unit size battle (though not out when this video was made), Witcher 3 in the heavily populated areas or Fallout 4 in heavily populated areas, etc, etc would have also been nice to see.
Digital Foundry (unknown credibility) did some rudimentary tests with i3's that showed decent improvement with faster RAM in Witcher 3 and I have this guild-mate who swears i7's benefit more from faster RAM speed due to having more cache, which I doubt.
I realised something today. Newer platforms don't benefit all that much from RAM OC. However, I've seen a video from Digital Foundry that showed noticeable improvements for the i5 2500k.
+David Sho That's because using top of the line GPUs may show a slight bottleneck, and that pairing it with faster RAM may decrease that bottleneck.
Can you try Arma 3? Everyone say it is very ram dependant
there is data collection on armaworld forum (but in german). but i can tell you fazit: Ram matters (when you have a very good cpu, that can prozess the data fast enough, like last gen coffee lake, but also ryzen will profit from faster ram)
I am at a point, where cpu and ram are not bottleneck anymore with overclocked i3 8350k (4,8 ghz) and 3000mhz ram. Now my gtx 960 gpu bottlenecks me at 1440p, but with frames alays above 60 , thats fine.
reason why ram and cpu are still main performance factors in arma (if you have a somewhat decent gpu), is that in arma there are running a lot of calculations through processors. way more calculation then for casual games like gta5. its a simulation, not a AAA casual oriented interactive graphics show.
If the guy in the video would have tested more simulations, instead of graphic shows, he would have come to a different opinion.
I think you should include 1600Mhz DDR3 tests too, just saying
still good video
2800 vs 2133mhz not a good test. better would have been 1600mhz vs 2400mhz as most people dont run the 2133mhz speed or 2800mhz
i wish you paired it with an 970
I use ddr2 ram and an rx480 and ram speed especially in dual channel has hardly any effect
you can see the difference if you remove the gpu bottleneck, which isn't ideal situation for gamers so literally faster ram doesn't have huge impact on gaming.
I would add that running DDR4 at XMP or anything above 2133 is technically overclocking, and therefore liable to all the mysterious and sporadic instability you potentially get when overclocking. I bought DDR4-3000 with the understanding that at the first hardware-related BSOD I would revert it to stock / 2133. You are absolutely not guaranteed to get above 2133 - your mobo or CPU may not like running the RAM above stock, or you may get very occasional BSODs / instability. Not worth it at all, imo.
I'm thinking a few years down the line were the CPU poses a significant bottleneck on more modern graphics cards a higher speed ram is going to prove important for extending platform life
sh*t I didn't read his comment that addresses that point damn! sad Forest
You don't understand. This is the RUclips comment section. We don't actually know what we're talking about. We just read somewhere on the internet that minuscule things make a huge difference and a gold plated USB plug transfers data faster.
Hi LMG people!
For about 3 years I have been using the CRUCIAL BALLISTIX sport DDR3 2x4GB 1600MHz for a few days, and for a few days I've been thinking about changing this frame on the HyperX 8GB 2400MHz Savage, but this change would have cost me about $ 30. And in the end I would still have 8gb of ram ... I gave 40 $ and bought an extra CRUCIAL BALLISTIX sport DDR3 2x4GB 1600MHz. I do not know if I did well ... i have an i5 4690k @ 4,5GHz processor, a gtx 1060 6gb and a gigabyte ga-z97-hd3 motherboard.
Well, that's great news for me, thank you for the myth busting! =)
Have you seen the videos showing the pretty big improvements that are seen with Ryzen in games when the RAM is overclocked to 3600mhz? I thought it was fairly interesting.
3000mhz and 4000mhz ddr4 ram has showed to increase fps when using a higher end gpu like the 980ti or 1080
The problem with this test is that you're using a 960. If you want to see noticable gains run the same benchmark with a 1070-1080.
Already have. This is an old video. Nearly identical margins.
I was keep thinking about that i could get 2400mhz and i got 2133 and i was so angry about it till i watched it. Big thanks
Almost all over clocking "gurus" say clocking higher than DDR4 3000 is a waste...you will have to up obscure voltages like System agent and VCCIO to stabilize the memory...I did testing when I built my Skylake 6600k setup and saw absolutely no benefit past 2666mhz...I am now keeping it at 2800mhz...I'll let the more knowledgeable people discuss the possible advantages with particular video cards...I use a nice cheap AMD RX480 8gb card which with Villas is about as kickass as it gets at 2k resolutions
i think its time for a 2133mhz vs 3600mhz in the latest 2017 games and see whats up greg :')