No More Water: What If The American Southwest Runs Dry?
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The megadrought continues to be in full swing for the western half of the United States and no where is this more acutely felt than the naturally dry American Southwest. Home to over 60 million people (including California) there are very real concerns over the longevity of the region's water resources. So what happens if there simply is no more water to pull from the rivers and ground?
Note: I understand that California is not culturally "Southwest" and make no assumptions it is. California is included due to its similar water issues and the fact that it's part of the Colorado River Compact.
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80% of California's water goes to agriculture under decades old contracts. Agriculture accounts for less than 1% of state GDP.
Meanwhile Southern California continues to build tens of thousands of new homes every year despite inadequate water supplies.
Thank you. People gotta have almond milk.
To be fair, many of the big ticket GDP industries like finance, retail, information tech, government, etc., water is not a main resource for them. Most of the water always goes to farming and manufacturing. But yes, some of the most water intensive food may need to be significantly cut back to help solve this problem.
Yep. Southern CA now takes a good amount of water from Northern CA. That is a tragic loss to some of the best crop land in the central valley.
80% of the water in california goes into ocean.
If you liked this comment gtfo of America.
These massive water projects enabled populations to live in numbers that are far beyond what they could ever normally support.
Mulholland was not a visionary after all.
Stating the obvious makes u look so smart.
@@armandomarin6704 thanks!
@@armandomarin6704 The thing is, there is enough water to support this population. We easily have enough water for all these people.... if you cut out farming. Farming is what uses most of the water, not the residents. Of course, cutting out farming is no easy feat. The midwest will eventually have water issues too as their aquifers run dry. When that happens, expect massive famine in the U.S. and the world.
As long as there's money to be made developer's will sell you a dream. Like a landfill, they take the money and run. This leaves others to clean up the me$$.
The best option would be machinery that extracts water 💦 from the air..... There are designs for home use, office use and farm use as well.... Engineering the air to water facilities would be ideal.... In fact farming water from air might even be a good business opportunity for entrepreneurs who do business in these areas.
The Dust Bowl, also known as “the Dirty Thirties,” started in 1930 and lasted for about a decade, but its long-term economic impacts on the region lingered much longer. Severe drought hit the Midwest and Southern Great Plains in 1930. Massive dust storms began in 1931.
Read " The Worst Hard Times " ?
I always felled bad how the dust bowl had to happen during the depression msking people so poor.
Worst timing when that happend.
This is no dust bowl this will be permanent! As co2 levels rise, it traps global heat and its causing enormous amount of damage world wide in more intense desertification and flooding.
@@margri7949 This has nothing to do with my comment
@@margri7949 Do you think the impact of the dirty 30s was only economical you need to go back and do some more research!
I actually was thinking of purchasing a condo in Phoenix but a few months ago I was reading about water shortages and think I'll hang out here in Ohio where everything is green for most of the year.
Deprivitize water. Companies like Arrowhead water sucks up California water and sells it all over the country in polluting plastic bottles. I grew up in CA, and wondered since childhood where all the water is that will support the thousands of people moving here in the 1960's-70's. Compost toilets and eliminating lawns would help a lot! I've been through so many droughts and water rationing, people sure freak out when they have to cut back.
Don't live in the desert. It is as stupid as living on the beach. Visit there, take recreation there, but never live there. Our Ancestors were well aware of this and in our arrogance we think we are better.
@@lakesnake2005 Exactly. Not all of CA is desert, but the southeast of the state, much of Arizona, and NM are. Plus Nevada/Utah.
I don't know how much Arrowhead uses, but Crystal Geyser produces about 42 millions gallons a year. California as a whole uses about 40 million acre-feet a year, or 13,034,057 million gallons. I don't think shutting down bottled water is going to have that much of an effect.
@@barryon8706 It may. Much of that acre feet of water is going to crops.
If you're in the southwest your governments need to figure out how to turn ocean water into pottable water. Whatever you do, don't move east. It is crowded enough here.
Drought is always a problem in a desert.
Why don’t they build desalinisation plants along the coast and pump fresh water inland?
Las Vegas is in THE BEST position for water access. LV uses less than the allotted 1.8% and if the lake gets below 1,000 feet, States like CA and AZ, Mexico will not have water. (Pumps won't work) but Las Vegas has a pump at approx. 870 feet so Las Vegas will have water for a long time. Las Vegas also conserves/refines all ground water.
California agriculture uses far more water for alfalfa and almonds than all the cities combined use. Maybe they should switch to groing real food and not wasting it.
100%
If they can make burgers out of plants, maybe they should make the almonds out of beef.
It takes 1800 gallons of water to produce one pound of beef.
@@svanteforsman8244 How many gallons of water for carboard or paper waste?
Florida is facing the same problem with its aquifiers, they have no annual snowpack, just rainfall and tears for resources.
Well done defining the problem.
Looking forward to hearing the solutions contemplated.
Most people should move.
a 15 megaton nuclear air burst !!!!
In Utah lawns are customary and even required in many cities. That's now changing quickly. There's a Xeriscaping effort going on to save water.. A significant amount is now used just to keep green lawns.
At some point, they will have to develop the technology for inexpensive desalination. With an unlimited supply of water from the Pacific, that's the only solution.
Researchers have always wondered what happened to the Pueblos that built the cliff dwellings in Arizona, and drought is a common theory. Today many may be experiencing firsthand what happened hundreds of years ago. Another problem is to rely on water that comes from other regions to maintain your supply. Climate is a constant state of flux and always changing, and even with all that we know, there are variables that to this day aren't fully understood. I'm old and I probably won't live to see this end of story, but whatever happens, life goes on. Man, like most things in nature, has the ability to adapt. Fear Not.
Colorado normally has plenty of water…..for itself. The problem is it has to be shared with desert communities which continue to build in the desert!
It's crazy to say but I've lived in NW Oregon all my life since 1989 and we get vastly less rain then we used get throughout all my life. It's surprising. Plus it's not just drier it's getting a lot warmer too. It's really weird how its changing.
Check the birds in your area. Most areas are seeing vastly different birds than even 15+ yrs ago. Here in B.C. we have song birds we have only seen in N. Cal.
@@wetbobspongepants This warming climate is causing birds to move further north and migrate earlier. Here in New Mexico I have seen a dramatic decline in birds which I am out watching frequently. But insects are also in serious decline and that is directly impacted birds negatively.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 Saw a very telling bumper sticker the other day.
A picture of a Bee with the words, "If we go we're taking YOU with us!" Scary & true.
@@wetbobspongepants That's a bumper sticker I'd like on my car.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 That’s all true and I completely agree with climate change and all, don’t get me wrong; I’m an environmentalist myself. But I also know a little bit about birds. Some birds have been migrating north more so because of the availability of winter bird feeders; in the case of Anna’s Hummingbird, which didn’t used to exist in the PNW until people started to put out feeders and grow ornamental exotic plants that flower through our mild winters. Prior to that there wasn’t any food sources for them to stay here all winter (and all year) long. That can be found on the Wikipedia page for that bird species, but similar cases have happened among other bird species which have moved their range north with the availability of feeders. (Though of course climate change is a contributing factor as well).
looks like we got enough snow pack to catch up, the Gunlock reservoir is overflowing, Lake Mead is gonna be up.
Well if the Southwest runs dry the government may send someone to get big blocks of ice from glaciers in Alaska or Antarctica places that have glaciers.
To answer the question of the title. I say tough. Too many people moving into a dry area and using up the water is the problem of the people who moved there, not mine. It's like people who live in hurricance prone regions, like Florida. If folks don't like the storms, don't move there.
The government could begin to install huge water piping, which can send Mississippi Valley flood water to the west. If we can pump oil, we can pump water, easier... If it leaks a little, no one will cry very loud.
Operation "Popeye" the entire southwest.
Talk of a water pipeline from the Mississippi River should be in the works.
The fact that a farming industry even exists in Arizona is f’ing absurd.
Towards the end of the video he states that "fortunately there are some very smart scientists and engineers' 8:26 Yes, and they will find a way to perform miracles like turning desert sand into potable water.
The solution is a desalination plan placed in Northern California than pump the water inland refill the dry lakes, replace water in the The under ground reservoirs. Survival is within reach
Too expensive. And the waste...and what will it run on? Bc it cant be green energy. Has to be constant reliable energy. Solar wind and water are not. In fact, combined they couldnt run a mid level city 24/7. Climate activists scream change but have no idea how to do it. Desalination has been understood for 80 years. If it was soooo doable why have we gone to the moon and coded the human genome since? Its not politics or beauracrats. It's just not plausible for the level needed to support the parasitic humanity. Fact.
@@nonope5414 so the other choice is to suffer the consequences for not wanting to spend money 💰 🤣🤣🤣
In my area of the Southwest, alfalfa cultivation and subsequent exporting to China would need to stop.
This alone would mitigate our own water crisis.
Then China would begin to suffer.
Who knows what they might try next.
@Account NumberEight and we put them there for short term profits. Delicious irony, isn't it?
Great video, but after such a great build up, almost no info on how the Southwest will manage this huge problem?
That’s because they aren’t. I live in AZ and the Phoenix area is working on a housing project to bring in a million people. Oh and that housing project has to haul in their water to build because the county barely has enough for their own residents. AZ is very big on business and what will bring money, which is good, just not in this situation.
@@Amanda-wh8ww Where did the sane people go? It appears our society will chase the dollar right over a cliff.
@@nicholasmarshall3191 I don’t know but they aren’t in AZ. Lol I’ll be outta here in a year thank goodness!
It's inevitable as long as Colorado and Arizona are selling water to foreigners before it has a chance to enter the Colorado river
Just as they have Oil pipelines they can put in water pipelines and pump it from places where they gets plenty of water and snow instead of pumping it back into the Oceans
El problema que ustedes tienen es similar al nuestro en chile, siendo chile 🇨🇱 un país con muchos recursos naturales, pero lamentablemente el agua es privada , también nos estamos secando y es porque está siendo extraída indiscriminadamente por los más poderosos de chile y su mala política , sin importarles al pequeño agricultor .
Actually Oregon is getting low on their water in many areas. I know my well was running low when I sold, and when I moved their water was coming out of the ground artesian spring well, and I was told I would never have a problem.
They will never really run out of water because California does have rain quite a bit and snows like crazy in big bear there's water falls in Yosemite National park
The key phrase for the day is “Desalination Plants” they need them bad and they need it like yesterday. Now , not tomorrow or the next day or week or month. Now. They better get on it and quick
Anyone here remember the desalination subject years ago? These areas should look into this!
This guy has the greatest voice in the world.
I noticed that you called them, climate refugees, but it’s not the only reason, the population, as you noted at the beginning of the video, has dramatically grown, plus the largest amount of water, has been stolen by the large corporate farmers, such as pecan and other non essential products. This has left the people in the cities, short of water. To blame climate is jumping on the bandwagon, the earth has been warming and cooling for billions of years, and we humans are vain enough, to think we are totally responsible. Thank you for these great informative videos.
It isn't a matter of if, it is when. You can bet in the next 20-30yrs things are only going to get worse. Once the aquifers dry up, it is almost impossible to replenish them, it would take nothing short of a miracle. One of the biggest mistakes the U.S made was to dam up almost every waterway. There are over 70,000 dams in the U.S. Those waterways use to restore aquifers and water tables.
What will eventually happen, the U.S and Canada will come up with a treaty to divert some water, perhaps from the Great Lakes or the Red River or other waterways via aqueducts and pipelines to the midwest and the west coast. Instead of piping oil, they will pipe water.
Before any major infrastructure is done many things need to change. One of the first things that need to be done is to demo many dams and restore some of the natural waterways and reintroduce beavers to allow for natural ponds and wetlands. Water isn't like oil, it can be reused once it has been used, you just have to clean it. Wastewater treatment plants will need to be upgraded so effluent is not discarded but diverted to purification plants. However, before anything is done, people need to start realizing global warming is a real thing and water is a precious resource that needs to be protected and consumed responsibly.
The body requires a lot of water to maintain an internal temperature balance and keep cells alive. In general, a person can survive for about three days without water. keep advantage of it and this will be the end result
Why can we used salt water like they do in the Middle East and remove the salt and fill back lake mead?
It’s called. Dust. Bowl.
Build dams in California regardless of the impact on stupid smelt fish and build desal plants. California water independence frees up the resources for the other states. Easy fix.
17 gallons per shower? In Detroit I use 2 per shower and it's more than enough
We pipe oil, we can pipe water.
Pray for lots of snow in the Rockies.
desalination, which should have been kept up
They better start thinking about desalination plants and use that ocean water that’s apparently on the rise anyways
There's this thing called the ocean. I think we can use that.....
I live near sequoia park and I got water at 3 ft .my well is at 20 ft..and 3 locations were water comes out of the ground...a little rocky
But best drinking.water.all in 5 acres..
The Pueblo ruins were teaching the settlers a lesson they ignored at their own peril. This region cannot support large populations.
And the Anasazi?
@@75aces97 they are the Anasazi lol.
@@Jakethegoodman they are? I thought those were 2 separate tribes. Huh.😯
@@75aces97 Theyre not. Anasazi is a Navajo word that means enemies and the Navajo (who moved into the southwest around the 12th century AD from Alaska) said they abandoned their cities soon after they arrived. The first western archeologists who discovered the ruins called them Anasazi because thats what the Navajo who lived there called them.
In reality based on the structures, art, and apparent rituals they were probably cousins of the Hopi, Jumano, and Taingo peoples of Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and Chihuahua.
I got bottle water up here in Wisconsin for $35 a case! 😁
Sometimes I curse the humidity on the east coast (where I live) but lately I’ve become much more appreciative of the fact that we have so much water. Our landscape is lush and green too. It makes me grateful for where I live and what I have.
Frigid/snowy winter, no thanks.
At least you have water and moisture! No water is deathly!
Grateful for Republican governors.
Yup, im in Oregon and it's BEAUTIFUL up here, nice and green, tall green trees, but cali has fake celebrities, so there's that
Humidity doesn't have to be shoveled like all the snow we get in Denver. If i could trade you I would.
"Why they are running out of water" a 5 year old could answer that question. Building mega-Cities in the middle of the desert that could barely support a handful of small Towns is why.
Democrats: its climate change!
%80 of water usage in CA is by non residential. most is agriculture. like almond industry
Well mostly its a damn desert. Rainfall is in deserts are in cycles over 100's of years. It dosen't just rain when we want it to.
This and global warming yes.
@@MrDmadness The theory of climate change affecting weather patterns hasn't been around long enough to make statements regarding it's impact in terms of absolutes. Weather patterns have varied widely throught recorded history.
Maybe not having swimming pools everywhere in the desert, golfs, tennis court, almonds fields and such, and not washing our cars every week...might have been a good start?
Maybe if we had lived as if we actually were living in a desert instead of ignoring it, might have avoided that problem ?
Not really. Adding millions of people is the problem that wont be fixed by washing your car once a week, a month or a year.
white man gonna white. see The Dust Bowl.
@@johnthemachine ah, racism is still alive and well, I see.
Swimming pools don't consume as much water as people think. Watering a lawn in the desert wastes more water. Tell me, what is the GPM flow of your sprinkle system and how long is it on?
@@thebeesknees745.. You're actually right. A green lawn consumes more water per five month period that having an in ground pool.
It’s very likely Kansas and Nebraska will be in a water crisis for agriculture in the near future, as the aquifers underlying them are being rapidly depleted.
Growing feed for animals is extremely expensive, but Earthlings desire to be carnivorous? Did you know early immigrants were cannibals?
Yawn... end-=times are coming aruggghhhh/.
Nebraska is hounding Colorado right now to take a percentage of their water.
The Aquifers are being depleted for CORN ETHANOL. What a total waste. We have OIL that works much, much better than ethanol.
@@billhosko7723
he giggles... he is right and doesn't know it... got one question for those who would agree with him.....
¿ how did USG put us civvies in tens of TRILLIONS of T bond debt ? (the national debt)
Fossil records on trees were pulled and studied along the Colorado River. They were able to look back 15000 years. It showed that the river goes through dry and wet periods lasting 800 years on average. When these dams were built on the river back in the early 20th century the wet period was at its climax. The river is now only 100 years into its drying period, with possibly 700 years left to go. It could be centuries until water levels come back and the drought ends.
True enough. But not near enough wise use of what we have is the killer.
Western states take great pride and profit from growing crops in the desert and places that need flood irrigation to grow. This is where two thirds of the water goes. Which most of the water evaporates. And helps create rain in the Midwest and East. And the producers cry that drip irrigation would be labor intensive and thus expensive. But they prefer the income from these crops. Over the needs of residents.
who says farming in the Southwest creates rain in the Midwest and the east? That sounds farfetched to me.
@@XX-xv6xe Have you ever heard of the Jetstream? Almost half of flood irrigation will evaporates in a day or week dependent on heat and wind. The average swimming pool loses a quarter inch of water each day on average. Water evaporates in the west and flows east. Causing severe storms in the Midwest.
Half of it is wasted on stupid CORN ETHANOL, when America has plenty of OIL.
@@johndodson8464 And with farmers switching to crops for ethanol. That raises the cost of feed for livestock that raises the cost of all meats. Pluss we need to import fruits and vegetables we used to produce here because farmers switched to higher profit corn and soybeans.
@@johndodson8464 Global warming is going to increase the length and intensity of these droughts.
I stopped watering my lawn years ago. It turns brown in the dry season and quickly turns green when the rain comes.
Cool!
I've seen yards that don't have lawns. They have sand and rocks with succulents.
If you're in particular parts of the s west your lucky if you get 5mins of sprinkles once a year.
@@corvetcoyote443 Not just the rain, most of the mountains don't get very snowy or snow at all anymore. No melting snow means the rivers and the man made lakes go down. The only hope for much of the Southwest is desalination plants.
New suburbs in Sydney Australia have two water mains with two meters at each home. One potable water the other recycled water for toilet flushing and lawns.
I was born, and spent the first 18 years of my life, in Los Alamos, New Mexico. Our water came from approximately 600 ft. deep wells. A lot of us took the water for granted when we were required by the administration of Atomic Energy Commission housing to maintain our lawns. Once housing became privatized, as well as the utilities, water bills went up about 400%. It took a shock like that to make residents cognizant of the preciousness of water resources.
Lawns are stupid.
@@joltjolt5060 I told my neighbor in Jacksonville, Florida that I thought lawns were a bourgeois affectation. She was not amused.
Tell us all your secrets
Yeah ,the first clue for humans should be the desert was never a hospitable place for life. But when have humans ever used sense to guide decisions?
@@joltjolt5060 i agree but in my part of the country they become a chest high jungle real quick if you don't address it. It makes for snake and rodent problems too if you don't keep it cut.
The desert Southwest is an intrinsically limiting environment, even with a big river running through it. People in the area need to adapt to live sustainably with the resources they have, not the resources they were planning on. A desert is limiting in the same way as an island. We’d think the people in Hawaii or Fiji were crazy if they let immigrants move in unrestricted or allow farmers use as much water/land/anything as they wanted. The governments in desert environments need to adopt this island mindset too.
Good luck finding people who want less year after year, humans love their things. Give me MORE!
Then why are Californians moving here? Locusts
FIRST, STOP ALL NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, LOW FLOW SHOWERS, NO GRASS ALLOWED, STOP WATERING GOLF COURSES, THERE ARE 10 GOLF COURSES IN ST GEORGE UTAH, THIS MUST STOP , NO CAR WASHES OR WASHING CARS AT HOME
@@domcizek good ideas, did you know most of the water goes to agricultural, so no more eating and you’ve solved it.
good video. I disagree that the SW won't "run out" of water soon. Lake Mead will be dead pool in 4-6 years IMO. Lake Powell about the same. 12 of the 17 turbines at Lake Mead will shut down this year, prolly in late May or early June. Lake Powell will stop generating power no later than summer 2023, according to my projections.
So you think that Lake Mead has always provided *all* the water to AZ, and still does? CAP has been in operation for 30 or so years. Prior to that, most all water was ground water. That water remains to this day. Heck, even the CAP allocation not being used has for decades been pumped back into the ground to replenish aquifers. That water is enough to last 100 years or more which can provide time to work out mitigation strategies/alternatives. Don’t believe everting you see on RUclips. This guy knows nothing, but how to get views and make bank deposits.
Could Be . But we have no idea what the future holds . This could be the wettest Spring on record
I thought Lake Mead is already dead - according to my sister who lives in Vegas. No water anywhere and the residents are concerned. Many moving to Vegas from California selling their high-priced homes and paying cash for homes in Vegas where the building of new homes continues. A concrete jungle without any of these new inhabitants considering there is no water in Vegas.
Na California would get cut off before anyone else because they are the last to get it lol.
There is no such word as "prolly".
I think we will see a decrease or slowing down of population growth in the South West as water becomes more regulated in the face of less and less water.
Good Day from Canada : I live right directly on the shore of the Great Lake Ontario in the city of Toronto . I'm close enough to throw a stone and watch it go splash . Our over abundance of fresh water sometimes becomes a problem . Two summers ago the water level in the Lake rose about 3 feet .
Living beside Lake Ontario is much more like living beside an ocean , only difference being it's fresh water . We pay no water bills at all . Do people from the American southwest pay for water every month ?
How much would these water bills be ? Is it really clean water ?
@@johnh1001 I live in Los Angeles and the water bill can be $200 but it's every 2 months that the bill is due. It's fairly clean and even safe to drink but most will prefer Bottled or purified water.
@@AlexCab_49 Texas here. About $50 a month is what I pay for water. Maybe get out of the liberal hellhole known as California? The politicians there are not going to make the situation better. In fact they're making it worse and they won't stop until life on the west coast becomes completely untenable, which will be sooner than you think if things there don't change drastically and soon.
@@NBGTFO I live on California and it's not as bad as people paint it out to be.
@@AlexCab_49 I hope you're right
I never hear about all the water/ground water used by water bottling companies like Nestlé and Sparketts, not only in the U.S, but around the world. There's a movie on Netflix about this subject, but I can't remember the name. They are essentially pumping our water and reselling to us at outrageous prices.
Most bottled water is drunk by someone making it one of the more not less efficient uses of water. It just gets a hit because people want to virtue signal against the evil big corporation. Reality is irrelevant.
Maybe we can cut large chunks of glacier ice from Antarctica haul it to Calif and Arizona stored it up I. Bone dry reservoirs in winter build more reservoirs in central valley for rain water and ice bergs build a huge canal for flooding from southeastern storms that hit east coast and divert to Arizona or California we need more water our oceans don't need more water our land does
@@davidortega357 or maybe we could treat the desert areas as desert areas
@@jerrymiller9039 - If we can have pipelines crossing the nation for oil and gas going to refineries, maybe we can de-salinize and pipe water where it's needed.
@@jerrymiller9039 100 years ago Arizona was mostly flush with rivers and trees, not dried up rivers beds and cactus!
Here in Guadalajara Mexico when we rebuilt an old house in the city we installed a 3000 liter (800 gallons) in ground rainwater tank. During our wet season the tank can fill from empty in a single day/night of rainfall. We use this water for our avocado tree all year round as well as plants, cleaning etc In an emergency we can filter and pump it to our 1000 liter gravity feed water tank on the roof. There is also a 5000 liter (1300 gallons) in ground water tank for the municipal water at the front of our house which is a reserve to be pumped to the roof tank in the case of loss of pressure to the street fed water supply. Our problem in Guadalajara is there is too much water falling in the wet season and nothing the rest of the year. Water storage (both macro and micro) when it rains will become the key. Desalination is only a stop gap solution for coastal areas.
In many areas of the United States there are severe restrictions on capturing rain water, and in some case, it is outright illegal.
@@makingtechsense126 illegal to catch rain…what’s next
@@makingtechsense126 I can understand authorities regulating and managing water catchments for large scale water retention like dams made by the agricultural industry, after all rivers have to stay healthy and have a flow and the environment needs to be maintained but the water off a properties own roof in a residential area ? That would be crazy to restrict collection and storage, in Guadalajara there are even neighborhood schemes sponsored by municipal and state government for community collection and storage of rainwater. All of which ends up going to where the rain was going anyway a combined stormwater and sewage system.
@@makingtechsense126 and you call the cops sir not vice versa.
You are not free. Corporations own you country and governments
@@julianshepherd2038 local politics can provide local solutions.
The thing is Lake Mead was never meant to be a lake in the first place. It is a man made thing. It was meant to be part of the desert with a river passing through it. The south west is basically returning to what it originally was. A natural desert with a river passing through it. It was never meant to support so many people like it is right now.
Yes we all know.
“Meant” is meaningless. Nature is not a thinking, reasoning thing. The Phx valley was not designed for anything. It could, on ground water, support a few thousand Indians-and did. Then a more technological people came along and increased that number through their technology. You now make the implicit argument that the numbers of people now supported can’t be supported based on the old manner (technology) of the ancient Indian tribal settlers. That is true, but it is at best a straw man. The problem is now whether our technology can support the population water needs in a cost effective-economical-manner. I say the answer to that question is a long way off. I, as much as anyone, would like to see some far reaching planning for a drier future-at least towards increasing supply, but we as a species have a hard time focusing without some pain. That pain will come when rationing is in force. The pain could be lessened if we start earlier than later.
JW Powell cautioned against the unbridled development of the desert west 150 years ago. No one listened. Now we’ve painted ourselves into a corner which has no way out.
@@at1970 “No way out” is a broad statement. What amelioration is possible and the costs involved is a better outlook. I don’t see the situation as hopeless, just painful.
@laughing Atyou
You don’t get it do you? We have plenty of empty dams now. There is no water falling as snow to fill them. Build twenty more mega dams. They will be just as dry as the ones we have now. The ground is subsiding because we are pumping water out of aquifers that have taken 1000s of years to fill and they are going dry only 50. People with concrete thinking like you are why we are in this mess.
It's a problem that really boils down to excessive population for the available resources. Also, politically it breaks down into two factions - farmers and developers. Generally, the municipalities want endless development because subdivisions full of houses generate a lot more tax revenue than orchards or farm fields do.
The rural areas also want the increased development for tax revenue, but are hesitant to anger the farmers that comprise the wealthiest of the population in rural agricultural counties.
The developers claim, with some validity, that it is totally irresponsible of farmers to grow water intensive crops like citrus and cotton in the desert. On its face, that seems a reasonable argument.
However, the response of the farmers is that they've been growing these crops in this area for over 75 years and it was never a problem until the cities allowed tens of millions of people to move into the desert and build houses, golf courses, and swimming pools.
Both sides make a valid point.
In the desert, both farmers and developers are idiots believing society can solve this problem. Mankind's demise will be a war with nature. Guess who wins?
@pyropulse many people would disagree with you. But you won't see those people that live under the cities.
I know they're growing those non-native water intensive crops in much of the midwest too, and the underground aquifer (Ogallala?) is being drained at an alarming rate. The southwest is on trouble, but I the Midwest isn't that far behind if we continue with business as usual.
Unfortunately, it's the same story in the South, where there is more than enough water. Everything has moved to where big corporations can squeeze profit out of things. China grows cotton- the southern states build houses.
In the 1800's John Wesley Powell, the explorer and proto climatologist,produced a sort of water map of the West.Based on his findings he strongly advised against over settlement and development there due to the limited water recources,but was hounded and derided for his pains by the railway barons and other related interests.Now the chickens have come home to roost and he has been vindicated long after his death it seems.See the article "How the West was Lost" by John F.Ross [Atlantic Magazine Sept. 10th 2018 issue]
" Killing The Hidden Waters "
Great eye-opening article. I am kayaking Colorado in August and will spread the Powell words as most of us only think of him as the first river runner
Also check out Wallace Stegner’s book “Beyond the hundredth meridian”. Which went into great detail about John Wesley Powell and his battles (and his warnings) with Congress and the late 19th century fledging federal land management agencies over their naive and misguided land policies which were based largely on grossly over-optimistic water supply consistency. Powell was always on the right side of history with this, but never more so than now.
It’s amazing to me that so few people know the real history of the Colorado and water issues in the west. I read “the exploration of the Colorado and its canyons” 40 years ago when I first ran the canyon. We knew then, in spite of the reservoir being full, that the whole development mess in the west was a mirage that could not last. It has happened far faster than we could have ever imagined.
@@at1970 Yep
I lived in that area for quite some time. Water is available, people simply need to learn how to manage monsoon rains, use that to reforest and keep the water there. Look for the bio-swales being built near 'washes' and you'll see. (The vid is called "The canal that accidentally grew a forest in the Arizona desert".)
I agree with this. We cannot afford to let water evaporate. Also, things like golf courses use so much water. They need to go away.
@Annaeeee that's a drop in the bucket compared to what is used for farming. Find a way to do that with less water and we are golden.
Ontario Canada here. With Lake Ontario near where I live, various tributaries, and the melting snow you don’t see a lot of houses (even high end neighborhoods) with front and backyard sprinkler systems. When I visited California, the sidewalk was awash with precious water everyday between afternoons and evenings. It’s like a waterpark.
cut out aLL lawn watering
all car wash business
no back yard pools
plant more trees
@@jimafton5659 Car washes filter and reuse their water. Pools can be covered when not in use. New trees need lots of water
They have so many golf courses in California. They would rather golf than have water for food or drink. Let them eat cake!
@@tenossos If you plant trees that are adapted to the climate, they don't need much additional water.
@@tenossos r u nuts.. trees are the only things going to save us in thr long run.
Detroit & Michigan take all sorts of crap, from outsiders telling us how terrible it is to live here. Then the water runs out and you either want to steal Great Lakes water, or move here to use the water! Maybe some of the great lakes states should join Canada!
I was actually in Detroit and I loved it! It’s turning I to such a modern city and gave me major Atlanta vibes. Time for Detroit to boom again.
Update for anyone watching this as it was made a couple months ago. Lake Mead dropped to inactive pool (below 1050ft) on Thursday June 24th (1043.8 was the June 24th measurement). Mead did install impellers that can generate power down to 950ft a few years ago, but currently is operating at about 30% of total power generation capacity. Dead pool, where no water can flow out of the dam, is at 895ft. We have 149ft left before dead pool, and last year lost 26ft of water in Lake Mead, a number that is expected to accelerate as federal officials work to keep Lake Powell from hitting dead pool. Lake Powell is the dam above Lake Mead, and will not be releasing 480,000 acre feet (156,408,480,000 gallons) that in previous years it has released to Lake Mead. We have maybe five years before Mead hits dead pool unless something drastically and immediately changes.
I'm happy to answer any questions that I can. I'm not a climate scientist, but live in Arizona and have been closely following our water
According to SRP, we won’t run out if water citing “various” water sources, including aquifers. Is this true? Also, what can really be done to prevent displacing millions of people in the future (20-30yrs)? Seems like every solution i read is just stopgap..
Is bugging out even a thought for you sometimes.
@@jockob1671 We're planning on either moving to Northern Arizona or completely out of state by June 2024
As the lake is in effect a large 'V' shape, the depletion should surely accelerate.
I live in Manitoba Canada, so far away from you, but I've been following the Lake Mead situation for a couple years now, as its fascinating. What is "dead pool"?
This is a good example of the dangers of unplanned growth. The Portland Metropolitan Complex avoided urban sprawl for a long time by tying up farmlands with a urban growth boundary. Moving that boundary is a very big deal and is not taken lightly. We are not in an unlimited water situation in Oregon as many seem to think.
Ngga you got enough water to fill the grand canyon in oregon. pacific ocean is right next to you.
Moses most of Oregon has been in a severe drought for several years. Water supply is based on snowpack and this year was a good one. There are no plants to desalinate seawater in Oregon at this point in time.
@@kevinwilliams563 You don't need to desalnate. Just use the ocean water as it is. The fish, whales, dophins, etc do it and you can too.
You first
@@moseskongi4746 We have water, but we refuse to give it to the cockroaches that live in California.
Let them suffer and die out, or they can drink ocean water.
See, you solve the problem of getting rid of the worst people in the US and have some population control.
If you want to help with the underground reservoirs being depleted and keeping more water on the land, bringing the beaver back along as much of the river as possible would be a good start.
What about Wally?
And start moving to the great lakes
@laughing Atyou "real" dams are the beaver dams because they were made first technically. But yeah I agree with you.
@laughing Atyou Do that with your money. If beavers do it, labor and materials are not only free but it is good for everything else that lives near the water. Instead of limiting access to valuable wildlife, like salmon and trout, I get to take my family fishing. Maybe you have a ton of money burning a hole in your pocket, but I am scary cheap and keep as much money in my pocket as possible. Being pragmatic and environmentally conscious (I am conservative, not liberal in case that statement threw you off) is free in this case. Laughing right back at you.
@laughing Atyou So, fish ladders are free is what you are saying? When you build a new dam fish ladders add to the cost significantly. You are also still missing the point. I don't want to pay for fish ladders OR A NEW DAM in the first place if I can meet the same need, done better and for free. Dams cannot match energy generation costs any more, so the only points of a dam are recreation and to hold water on the land longer. Beavers are just as good for both.
When Hoover Dam was completed, it was designed to serve 4 million people! It is now serving close to 18 million people! Plus they talk about a drought, people forget, it is nearly all desert in the southwestern United States! Plus it is now used for irrigation too!
the water that feeds the Colorado comes from Wyoming. Utah and Colorado...
They keep building house and casinos
I currently live in the southwest. I can't move for two years, when I finish school, but as soon as I finish school and start working, I plan on finding a job somewhere in the coastal PNW or great lakes region. Climate refugees are already a thing, and it will only get worse in the near future.
Don’t go to Illinois the democrats have ruined that state with corruption, taxes, fines, penalties, fees and dirty crooked police.
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DONT COME TO WASHINGTON Shitloads of Climate Change refuges have come here and care causing traffic and housing nightmare.
Except retreating is not an option for many people, so we need a real solution to this matter.
May want to take a look at NW Indiana since they have an electric interurban line that runs from South Bend to Downtown Chicago. You'll want to check out the small towns and cities east of Gary since that's where Chicagoans that work in the Loop have been relocating to for the past 30 years due to inexpensive housing and low taxes.
Another region is East Texas since it's the wettest part of the state with full aquifers. Most of the industry around here involves oil & gas, power plants, Lignite mines, lumbering and wood products, warehousing operations plus heavy manufacturing. Land and housing is inexpensive due to all the new high-tech industries preferring to set up shop in Central Texas and DFW where water shortages has been a problem due to droughts. We're waiting for some to wise up and start building those over here where there's plenty of lakes and thermal power plants. They have shown interest in the past then went elsewhere after the cities and counties refused to give them tax breaks and install expensive infrastructure they needed for free.
Great video! At some point watering grass is going to have to become a thing of the past and something needs to happen with the countless golf courses that use millions of gallons of water.
Our food production should take top priority but unfortunately it isn't with many farmers having to abandon planting crops.
It just doesn't make sense when an orchard or farm is not permitted to get water but a golf course does.
Both will have to stop out of simple math. Farmers wells are going 1000 foot plus deep, because the aquifer has been drained, and the lake, and river systems used to re-fill those aquifers, but there is so much central pivot irrigation the aquifer may not recover for hundreds of years. Farmers cannot drill into the salinity layer, because it will kill their crops, and salt the soil. They are at the last few decades of farming in the desert, and the only thing to be done is to move the farm.
Many choose to grow corn for fuel 😂😂 pure stupidity
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Can't because farmers there are growing extremely water intensive crops in the most wasteful manner possible. For example they are growing rice, not dry rice strains as you would expect in a water poor region but water immersion rice grown in flood fields. It is insane.
Over 80% of water usage in the southwest is agriculture.
Yes millions of people can change habits and help the water shortage but unless we decide to stop trying to do water intensive agriculture in an arid region it’s simply going to get worse
"What if the American Southwest runs dry?" Isn't that like asking "What if the Sahara gets covered in too much sand?
That doesn't make sense to me, but it is not a good analogy because the Sahara desert does not contain a large population using water at the level present in the southwest.
The Colorado river used to provide normal amounts of water but because the population grew dramatically and people thought they could use as much water as they wanted the reservoirs began to decline.
The reservoirs also began to decline because of drought and warming temperatures not only Arizona, but also in Colorado which has significantly reduced the snow pack and thus the run off to the reservoirs.
Send the population to migrant camps in Alaska.
Or being out at sea without a drop to drink.
If I said you sound like a climate change denier, would I be right?
@@iamjackscompletelackofsurp9606 I don't deny or know it to be true. The timeline is too short to tell for me.
Almost every year there are areas in the USA that experience major flooding. Every few years the Mississipi. River reaches flood stage in louisiana and Mississipi and other states. Rather than let this water run back into the ocean,I would like to see the USA develop a reservoir plan to store this excess water to be used during times of drought. Tax payer money would be better used doing this than spending billions of dollars on wars that change nothing
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Those floods don't bring in usable water tho. It would just be washed up pollution since the Mississippi already is highly polluted. We need the rain but over a longer time span so it can actually soak in the ground.
Solving the drought problem is a better idea than going back to the moon.
Wars change population size, pandemics change population size, natural disasters change population sizes, but you want none of that. "Kill whatever kills humans". The woods around Chernobyl are pristine, humans don't intrude there, its all paradise again
Having lived in Phoenix for a few years, King of the Hill was absolutely correct in stating "this city is a monument to Man's arrogance!"
That’s what I’ve heard people say about Vegas.
Phoenix, as you know, went past Philadelphia wrt population. However future flooding is a huge fear in a lot of the mid-Atlantic. They're going to run out of water. Philly is going to have too much water.
@@yvonneplant9434 Should probably call the Dutch, they know a thing or too about dredging! ;)
No one quotes King of the Hill enough
Actually having lived in Phoenix for the last 30 years and seeing the growth that has boomed and skyrocketed in the past 5 years even with covid the government knows more than we do. If there is not enough water to sustain geoengineering will make sure there is. All the warehouses popping up in West Phoenix hospitals are doubling in size apartment buildings seemed to take only a few months to make into a compound within a few Acres... People might want to watch Hunger Games or read the books you will get the picture. I drive daily from areas in Apache junction to Tonapah and New River to SanTan valley.
I read some 40 years ago, a book called "The Cadillac Desert," that predicted everything that is going on now in the Southwest and in California. It stated back then, Mans Greed will cause drought and loss of aquifers for building of homes and shopping centers will catch up to the point of the land being unable to restore water to reservoirs.
It's not, just, man. A lot of it is women. They want their babies (overpopulation) and their new house (keeping up with everyone else) and their shopping centers (distraction).
Did it talk about releasing most of our water to "help" fish? I mean we have been releasing a lot of water everyday since the early 90s to "help" the fish and they has been no improvement in the fish. Is it time to stop releasing so much water? It's not helping.
@@karkule5919 Yes, overpopulation is part of it, but if you don't think greed has something to do with it, then you're not paying attention. Have you heard of Stewart Reznick?
I read it as well! Great book... you are correct, this has all been predicted. That is exactly what is going on today. The aquifers are a major concern. I posted the following above, but I will re-post it here:
I have some data about the Colorado river you may find interesting. I tend to believe over population and too much agriculture is the major problem and not "droughts". Yes, a good rain/snow year would be helpful, but IMO just a band-aide. If you look at a climate or weather map, it will show you that the entire west is in a major drought, but is it really? I submit to you the following:
For the 2022 water season, the upper Colorado River Basin is at 99% of it's normal precipitation. (this figure is now up to 101%, as it changes daily)
For the 2021 water season, the upper Colorado River Basin received 80% of it's normal precipitation.
For the 2020 water season, the upper Colorado River Basin received 81% of it's normal precipitation.
For the 2019 water season, the upper Colorado River Basin received 120% of it's normal precipitation.
So for the past 4 years The upper Colorado River Basin, on the average has received about 95% of it's normal precipitation. Is that a drought or is that slightly below average??? That being said, 4 years ago Lake Powell's volume was nearly double of what it is today. Lake Mead's numbers are similar. That is a huge drop off, yet the precipitation was only slightly below the norm.
Too many people with a straw in the drink! links to the data I mentioned: (please look at these sites via a desk top computer or at least a lap top. A cell phone's screen will not show enough data.)
This water season (October 1st through Sept 30th.) the inflow of water to Lake Mead is at 130% of the average inflow, yet the water level of the lake continues to drop!!!
The aquifers in these areas have been depleted, so even when Mead has a good year of inflow, most goes to trying to replenish the aquifers.
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'Splain.. How 'man's greed' dries up lake Mead. Ok just move the city of Phoenix to the West Coast. (The people would fight to the death to stop you)
One of the things I focus on in geography education and using GIS is water. Water quality water availability etc. It boggles my mind how little students are taught in this crucial topic from primary to university level. I am trying to change that and so thanks for all that you do as well.
I told my kids not to buy a home in the Southwest, with population growth and finite water supply I think its going to be unsustainable before long.
The feast and famine cycle of water is now entering the famine.
This knowledge would have been valuable 150 years ago.
Schools today are too busy teaching CRT to worry about things like math and science.
Doesn't surprise me. Most the kid's, are so far behind,pretty much,behind all industrial nation's. The bright spot,is we got 34th, and we bested, Chile,by one,in child mortality rate. Where my problem is, MOST, can't take care,of themselves. They want Mom,to help THEM. Pathetic,really..
My Mother told me about this,as a child. And, I listened, to her. But,we disagreed on the right to ABORTION. She against,and me for. Too many women died,getting illegal abortion's. That's only, her decision. And,she would have pissed off,at any traitor's,that Destroyed,our US CAPITOLS.
SORRY, I good. Understanding,where's a good place,for your house. Make sure,you are on a hill. You have,adequate, water. As it's sustainable. Most worry about the look's,of property. And they buy,with your thinking ABOUT ,how pretty the house look's. No, your asking,too much. Find a parent,that teaches his son about Algebra,at four. So,wind the brain's, and,turn them loose,in the Wild. He won state award's,in physics. As a freshman, sophomore, and Junior. Senior, he place second. And he lost it,by less than a point. When the parent's, don't care,it show's. And,I was teaching him,on the weekends. I Over the Road, trucker,over 3 decades. Good points, but,when you think about it,changing people,set in their Way's. THIS is BEYOND, but we can hope,for the best, but,it comes down,to everyone,doing there part to conserve. And desalination plant's,are expensive.
I'm in Southern California. If you saw what's going on around here you'd realize there's no water "shortage".
In Palm Springs they're planning on new communities with water parks, golf courses, and water surfing parks. Here in the San Gorgonio Pass they recently authorized the building of 5000 new houses. That's on top of the 20,000 built in the last 10 years. That is just in this area. Just last week Orange County nixed a $1b water desalination plant that's been in the works for 20 years. It'll upset the local fish. (it would have supplied OC with 16% of it's water supply) In Imperial County there's thousands of acres of alfalfa being watered with pumped ground water so the alfalfa can be sent to Saudi Arabia to feed their prize horses. (it's called green water exports)
So, until we start acting like water is a finite resource, there is no shortage.
If there was ever an actual water shortage there is an ocean.
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Wine grapes are pretty water intensive. We don't "need" wine. Besides there enough wine in the world.
You're an ignorant moron of how actual drinking water gets to you.
People being blinded by greed and refusing to acknowledge a problem, is not the same as not having a problem.
@@Troy_Built Unfortunately out of all water on this planet only .5% is actually fresh water that is drinkable. We're gonna die.(•‿•)
Fear mongering. Language in this upload suggests certainties where it should suggest unknowns.
That said, the Colorado was mis-appropriated back in 1922 because of politics at the time, and has had the can kicked down the road ever since.
It's ALWAYS been unsustainable, the dams and reservoirs simply delayed the inevitable.
The deal is, farming and ag will loose their water first, and the dollars per acre/foot move up.
It's not so much about the climate and supply as it is human short sightedness.
And Humans have ALWAYS been short sighted idiots.
Amen.
"When the last tree is cut down, the last fish eaten and the last river poisoned, you will realize that you cannot eat money." Mähsette Kuiuab
It is truly a sad situation. Even as early as 1990, when Fountain Hills, a Phoenix suburb, was developed there was talk of the need for better water management. This suburb is known for the World's Tallest Fountain, squirting almost 600 feet in height, in the largest most arid metropolitan area of the lower 48. A symbolic attempt to claim that the Phoenix residents had water to burn. There has been talk of conservation for 30 years but not embraced by the inhabitants. Attitude is the problem. Let me give you another example. In 2002 one of the Native American tribes in the Southwest asked the architectural firm that I worked at to submit a master plan for a new residential development. I was not involved in the project but all members of the company were invited to attend a presentation to the tribe. I decided to sit in the back of the meeting room that could accommodate 300. The tribe representatives were between me and the raised stage. The architect assigned to lead the proposal, had recently joined the company, relocated from a state in the mid-west. The PowerPoint showed the street layout and relation to the “Old Town” that had existed before arrival of the Mayflower. At the center of the development the architect planned a “Green Space” and actually was colored as green on the otherwise brown, black and white plan. Every time he said Green Space several tribe reps would whisper to each other. I did not intend to comment but felt the need to and raised my hand. It was my attempt, by example, to let the tribe members know that they could chime in anytime. The best that I could think to say in this touchy situation was “can we call it something other than Green Space?” To which the lead architect replied, “there has to be a Green Space, desert is so boring otherwise” in a matter of fact manner. I think you get the picture that he aspired to recreate Cincinnati’s Eden Park, or Chicago’s Portage Park but was limited by the reality of the budget. But, apparently, his dream. Also apparent, water was a very minor issue to the project team. As you might have guessed; for 1000 years this Native American old town did not have Green Space manicured lawn, nor fountains, nor sculptured hedges despite being founded on the banks of a river. That was not due to lack of budget, it was simply living with reality.
Bc Fountain hills is full of selfish me first snobs that thinks the world revolves around their every move. Like a lot in the whole area
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Water shortage been discussed since I was a young child in Mesa, AZ in the 1960s.
@@damonjohns355 I remember all of the small canals running through the valley in the 1960's, green fields and trees everywhere. Irrigation.
Reclaimed wastewater
I'm originally from Michigan, and currently live in AZ. I was a kid when we moved here. I didn't want to move, as I love the water, and don't like landlocked states. Since my husband died, I'm seriously thinking of selling everything and moving back to Michigan. I can live with my cousin, who said I can share her house with her and her family, And a job shouldn't be too hard to find there. I'm less than 5 years away from retirement. (Jan Griffiths).
come on home. Dont forget to bring your fishing pole. We have lots of fishing and you can enjoy the Great lakes 4 month during the year.
Michigan has a better future than AZ imo
Maybe not by much but it's also where you want to be so....
Gulf courses: California - 921, Arizona - 300, New Mexico - 88, Utah - 140, Colorado - 300. Which totals about 1700. Must be a major drought.
I agree with you that it's insane to have so many golf courses in incredibly dry areas, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to agricultural water usage. In my state, Colorado, that number is 90%. Of course agriculture is entirely necessary but using half of that to water hay and feed corn, products used solely for cattle consumption, flies in the face of reason. Soon those farmers and ranchers won't be able to afford the water for those crops.
@@TheHamburgler123 Also a matter of growing highly water intensive crops west of the 180th Meridian.
@@TheHamburgler123 AHHHH!!!!!!!! AAhhh!!!!!
Most golf courses (and Parks) around here use Reclaimed water. Recycled, but not suitable for human consumption.
Golf
As a resident of considerable time in AZ and CA. The water table having fell out from under my childhood home long ago. I can only say "plan on it".
I am ready to become a climate refugee.
I’ve watched the drought here for over 20 years; it won’t get better. Good video, but you could have mentioned the Central Arizona Project. Without that, we’d have run dry long ago. I’ve never felt putting millions of people into a desert was wise.
Ahhhh, but the developers on the other hand.....
Send me a message. I can explain the science of Climate Change and why man is 100% responsible for the water cycle on earth. Rapidly increasing co2 is the #1 cause of the earth water cycle going to both extremes. I dont want to say it, but as long as co2.earth continues to climb, earth may be heading into a mass extinction. I have some disturbing data from NASA that may point the direction Earth is heading. Who is guilty for most of the co2 in the atmphere that is trapping heat and cooking earth? USA is #1 and China WAS #1 but now, China is emitting 10.5 billion tons of co2 and usa is producing 5.4 billion tons of co2. Most of the co2 has been produced since 1990. Carbon from burning of Coal Oil and Natural gas was most likely the chief Cause of the last mass extinction 55 million years ago. I do want to teach this to City officials even though, I do not have a degree but I have spent hundreds of hours not only witnessing Climate Change kill off 75 million hectares of forest in BC Canada but now I can monitor Global temperatures LIVE every year and watching the Atmosphere deteriorate before my eyes Watching country get roasted with temperatures of 110 to as high as 140 degrees.
Then people could move to the Mid-West or New England
Leave now.
Living in a desert makes as much sense as living in an area Called "Tornado Alley". Some humans use less than 10% of their brains and make excuses for their current situations. Just make better choices and move!
I'm just sitting here wondering when these states are gonna remember that fognets exist. Panicking about all the lakes and rivers drying up, yet weirdly enough I don't hear about ANY fog nets being set up. Legalizing rainwater collection across the board would help too. We CAN do something about this, we just AREN'T
I'm speaking from afar, but there are solutions to to the problem, but how can a country with such a history of innovation and scientific clout have ignored the problem for so long.
Now everything depends on if you can make up for lost time. Surely someone can open their eyes to see what is happening elsewhere in the world to see what foresight has produced.
why dont we just extract water from thin air its a more cheaper and effective way to get water plus it dosent require alot of energy
🧐🤨 yes they don't mention low tech technology because Big industry doesn't want to people to know about it a cheap way to supply all our needs the money base couldn't make money and that means the politicians. We have enough land mass in the deserts for fog nets and do collectors to overtime give us the water that we need for the entire country unfortunately as stated it's about money and power not the needs of the people look up and see how much fog nets cost they're not cheap. 🙄 But we do have the technology to solve our water problem over the entire planet. You know the movie don't look up?. Well this is the movie don't look around they don't want us to know that they're deliberately killing the planet. Thanos & Palpatine have nothing on the politicians of Earth
The civil engineers out there are aware of such things. They would use them if they made sense.
@@boblovell5789 Simple. Capitalsim and greed.
A real possible problem with the lack of water. I started saving grey water to flush toilets and rain water, saved about 600 gallons for my garden vegetables, which will last me about 3 months, went to low water usage landscaping over 35 years ago which requires watering about once every 2 weeks during summer, once a month during spring and fall, zero during the winter.
Saved 600 gallons over what time frame? Days? Weeks? Months?
@@spencervance8484 A year, probably.
Even better, don't water your lawn, use native drought adapted plants, if you can find a species of tree or shrub that provides shade for being outdoors too. Even though I dont live in the western us and get 50 inches of rain a year, my yard still isnt even monoculture grass, I just let the so called "weeds", aka native plants take over my yard
@@spencervance8484 I should have mentioned it was 600 gal of rain water i saved during the winter. The water is used for my vegetable garden.
@@arcturus9366 i haven't had grass in my yard for 40 years since I wasa kid. Too much work darn and expense. Mainly wood chips, rocks, and semi arid plants which requires waterer twice a week at most during the summer.
I have lived in Phoenix for 30 years and looking to move back to NC soon. Along with lower water tables, the summers are getting hotter. That combination is going to cause some major migration changes. It's not if, it is when it is going to happen.
NC is in a drought also.
@@Stoney47 The difference is NC is not in the middle of a desert. According to the US Drought Monitor, there is moderate drought conditions along the NC coast. They are forecasting heavy rain sweeping the state this weekend and into next week. I am not worried about NC running out of water.
I left Tempe, AZ two weeks ago. Get out while you can is my best advice. I’m in the southeast now. Cost nearly $900 in fuel. The west is out of control environmentally & financial with the housing/rental market. It’s as if they want people to be stuck there due to the high fuel & moving truck cost.
@@Stoney47 not like Arizona. Unless your state turns brown and stays brown, you still have tons more water than the whole state of Arizona.
@@willthomasiv3891 that's exactly what it feels like. I remain furious with my husband that he moved us here, after I worked so hard to leave her in the first place.
There are ways to pull water out of the air....
#1 is to save the water produced via air conditioning condensation. That can be a few gallons a day from a small window AC.
You can get a gallon a day from your refrigerator, redirecting the defrost to a collection tank instead of the evaporation tray under the refrigerator.
#2 is a "fog filter" to collect condensation (dew) in the mornings. You just need a place o put the filter media that will collect the moisture.
#3 Peltier heat/cooling units can cause condensation and use little power, which could be generated by solar stored in batteries and set on timers to collect during the hours when it's typically most humid (near dawn)
Rain catchment to tanks on property. This one the main expense is the tank(s) You need the roof anyway... just use a metal roof or you have to "first flush" a larger volume if using asphalt shingles.
Part of the problem is the massive areas of concrete, asphalt and roof that cause increased runoff thus less soaking into the ground. Catch that and let it soak down into the aquifers that we've been pumping dry for generations...
Get away from the green grass lawns. Those waste tremendous amounts of water just so the grass will grow so we can cut it to have it hauled off to landfills. Then buy fertilizer to replace the nutrients hauled away as grass clippings.
Pure stupidity.
We have much that we can do rapidly, cheaply...
It is the cost of living and the availability of housing that will be a greater factor in population returning to the areas in the Great lakes region and the North East.
Central NY State for example is a beautiful area with a huge potential for regrowth. But if people want to remain in Arizona and pay $600 / month water bills. Who are we to stop them?
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I've lived in both the Southwest and the Northeast.
Guess what?
More drugs in the Southwest.
Facts.
$600 for water? You seem to be missing the point. There will be NO water. Money won't fix that
I live in Vegas and my water bill for a 5,600 sq ft lot is $53/month roughly. Where are you getting this $600 water bill number from? lol A couple friends have pools and their water bills are $100-$150. They are talking about a bill to reduce the size and depth of swimming pools here. We already use reclaimed water to water plants and existing grass. Most of the landscaping is rock/gravel or turf and most HOA's require low water need plants, trees, etc. There are credits issued for every sq ft of grass people get rid of on their lot from the water authority. Lake Mead provides water to surrounding states and Mexico. I lived in Buffalo for 32 years before moving out west. Better housing deals, better climate (joint issues for me from playing sports), and cost of living is cheaper all around. NYS is shit. They tax the hell out of everyone. I would have never been able to afford a home there. My friend bought a house 3 years ago, single mom, single income. House was $118k, she's paying the same mortgage as i am and my house was bought for $211k in 2016. The value of my house today is $478k. I hated the politicians in NY....have to hand their hand in the pot before they approve anything. Yeah, make sure you get paid while the blue collar workers struggle to survive.
I remember a few years ago when California was in so much drought towns that had been flooded by artificial lakes were been seen again there was talk about the southwest getting water from the Great Lakes. The governor of Michigan said the only way they would be taking water from the Great Lakes was in buckets!
Correct. Water draws from the Great Lakes are governed by agreements with Canada and all the surrounding states and provinces.
No one in the midwest will sell water to California. Great Lakes Compact was done to prevent such a thing.
Why not just move to one of the rust bucket cities like Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh or Milwaukee? I’ve been to Detroit and I actually liked it. I can’t speak for the other cities but Detroit is changing for the better. It is looking more modern with tons of high rise construction happening there. Kinda gave me Atlanta vibes…a little sketchy in some areas but I liked it more than Atlanta. It has a better skyline as well. Very affordable real estate with some nice big brick houses.
The Great Lakes region is not going to send water westward, and we have no room for climate refugees. Ask states along the Mississippi. They have a surplus of spring flood water.
@@grumpycricket The great lakes region has plenty of room for climate refugees...aka idiots who moved to deserts and didnt see this coming. How do I know the great lakes area can support millions and millions of refugees...bc million and millions of mis west and great lakes states refugees are moving to Florida. You guys are sending 200k a month out of the mid west and great lakes to Florida. So you are lying...plenty of damn space up there. But if you want l the rude, bad drivers, and fatsos back...by all means take them. AND take the New Yorkers, Conn and Jersey ppl too. Idk y the country sends all it's old trash to.Florida. sigh.
I still can't get over the fact they're growing cotton in Arizona.
Amazing how mexico ( 130 mil) gets 10% but wyoming (0,5 mil) gets 14% whoever negotiated that deal for Wyoming did good.
It's a small region of Mexico, not the whole country is supplied by the Colorado
@@my0p1n10nst1nks i get that. But more of it runs through mexico ( in theory, the colorado does not have water in it anymore past a certain point ) than Wyoming. Yet Wyoming get more.
@@RK-cj4oc A better question is what's the population of that one region of Mexico that actually gets water from that rivier? An even better question is "what other water sources do they have in the area?"
@@RK-cj4oc, the allocation of water is the reason why the river runs dry. We are over tapping it.
Consider that the entire Southwest was stolen from Mexico that might explain it.
When I was honorably discharged from the USAF in 1980 I was stationed at Alamogordo, NM and saw the writing on the wall. With such a short supply of water, the SW US was not a viable long term home. My wife and I moved to Idaho, and 42 years later, although we are in a drought we do get a relatively reliable supply of water here in Idaho.
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My wife and I moved to Idaho from California after I retired. So glad we did. We Re in a drought but nothing apocalyptic like the southwest is facing.
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Air force guys are hella smart
@@dukeford8893 It’s possible. Both Al Gore and the late Carl Sagan were outspoken about climate change in the 80s. I remember learning about climate change, the polar ice caps melting, and the ozone layer as an elementary and middle school kid back around 1987. I still remember answering the polar caps question melting in class as a kid not even in puberty back in the 80s.
California can build desalination plants. The other southwest states are in trouble.
A lot less so if California is taken out of the equation
No, desalination is not an option.
@@sentientflower7891 you can do it to Wastewater some places are already doing that technique which is the cheapest form of Distillery then you have brackish water and the most expensive is sea water distiller.
@@sentientflower7891 Technologies are improving for desalination. Hopefully it helps in the near future.
@@Gene601 the water crisis is happening right now so there is no future.
I'm watching this as I lay in bed in Louisiana it's been raining for the past hour it will be raining for the next hour. When I first moved back to my hometown there was a period of time where it rained every day for 200 solid days. Never in my life did I ever see it rain that much here and then the very next year we are under hurricane threat seven times one hit a category 1 storm hit us.
That is because you have not been reading the Climate Reports!!!! co2 is the MAIN green house gas that is trapping heat in the atmphere and is causign a rapid uptake of moisture from the worlds oceans. Record flood events are occuring world wide. Every city east of Texas iss seeing a rapid increase of rain and flash floods. The drougth and flooding events are intensifying and killing people in countries that surround the indian ocean. did you NOT see the IPCC Climate reports "RED ALERT FOR HUMANITY?"
@@LK-pc4sq Funny thing when I was growing up Ca had a 10 years drought im considered a senior citizen.
We can get rid of all engine compete with rabbit for diet and it's still not good enough to save us from the instant light of a quasar. Extinction event that has occurred more than once according to astrophysicist. Also the dinosaur killer that one was a big fat Rock another event that we can't fix. The good book said he who thinks he is higher than he actually is only deceives his own mind.
Pole shift can reassign climate cause mega Tsunami and kill billions. Covid could run strong , one thing is certain death and taxes.
Sooo..... your not drying out where your at?
@@davidwhitten3596 70380 Morgan city Louisiana.
See i dont think u have much to brag about ur entire state is ready to be under water. You want somewhere safe move to the great lakes
I have long advocated that any municipality within 100 miles of a coastline get its water from a desalination plant. The state should cover the cost of the plants to be built and pipelines laid OR make them part of a U.S. infrastructure program. Demand for water is going to continue rising so let’s get started now. If the Middle East can do it, so can we.
@James Harrison
It doesn’t just need to be within 100 miles of the coastline (although the convenience of seawater is greatly beneficial; easy to pump and treat). In El Paso, TX, a city incredibly far from any body of water, has the largest desalination plant in the world that’s not on a coastline. It provides roughly one third of the cities water and they do this be pumping brackish water from the ground. This water hasn’t been previously utilized because of its salt content, but the same principles that work with seawater for desalination work on brackish water. This is something more of the desert cities need to emulate, as El Paso is in a fairly secure spot water-wise for being a city of over half a million residents. This is all connected to the effort that began 30 years ago in the city, focusing on reducing the use of water and maximizing the saving of water. This has led the to the city’s lucrative position in terms of water supply and water capacity.
Desalination has several disadvantages: it take a tremendous amount of energy (and thanks to our insane "leaders", energy prices are now through the roof) , the brine must go somewhere, the cost of building the plants is very expensive, and the operating costs are very high. Couple all of that with the pagan worship of "Mother Earth", and you can guess why these plants were not built, and they won't be built.
US infrastructure program 😂😂😂 like Biden's amazing plan? Which had more money for social programs and corporations than infrastructurd?
@@jerrykobylt7387 - I agree with you on that point. But they still won’t build them.
Apparently you've no idea how energy intensive desalination is.