Remember folks! Infantry in IFVs only dictate the weapon the Vehicle should use, but the infantry never actually fires or uses its weapon(s)! Meanwhile, the BattleFort allows Infantry to shoot out - the weapon infantry use is dictated by the key OpenTransportWeapon in the Infantry's code itself. 4:06 funny you mention the animation - the DRON isn't animated, it was animated by WW and all we're seeing is what is essentially just a GIF of that animation. The exact same situation with Buildings and Infantry; and, back in the days of Dune 2, TibDawn and RA1, the same applied to Vehicles and Aircraft. 4:50 CAOS' Psychedelic gas doesn't stack - the timer resets every time upon application, like other internal timers (Iron Curtain, Shield, etc.). This mirrors the EMP-behaviour in TibSun, btw. 6:10 the BEAGs are a 33% superior version of the FALC in all aspects but speed - for the same price. 6:40 a rare sight: warhead detonated on bridge - with a high enough CellSpread, Aircraft also get hit. If this had happened on regular ground this wouldn't have happened - it's an engine quirk Ares allows to customise for individual Warheads. 8:00 can confirm - the key that allows units to fire while moving is *OpportunityFire* - it defaults to *No* and the TNKD's code doesn't change that value. They deal a miserable 3 damage points against anything that isn't Light or Heavy - "no armor's too tough" indeed. 8:50 you forgot to mention the best part: after MC-ing 11 units it will blow up immediately if it didn't collect an Armor crate - this is because the base game is set to bump the Overload-damage from 100 to 500 points (regardless of armor and/or using a Warhead that is 100% effective against the MIND) as soon as it controls more than 10. 8:59 the Tesla Tank, according to the load-screen, is supposed to short-circuit vehicles - which isn't possible since EMP is disabled/unavailable without Ares DLL. 9:14 Rhino's 120mm's Range is 5.75, TTNK's TankBolt's Range is 4 - effectively two cells... 9:34 the MGTK used to be able to have a customisable disguise - if the TankMakeupKit is equipped properly it'll allow players to pick traffic lights, lamp posts, and trees other than the first four trees listed in the game. This would've made much more viable in urban sections of maps. But, unfortunately, that custom disguise is forgotten and needs to be manually re-set if the MGTK goes anywhere. 10:02 I've been wondering about that... specifically, the keys AttackCursorOnDisguise and TreeTargeting and how they affect this. 10:12 intersting... AttackCursorOnDisguise is no in RA2, but yes in YR. TreeTargeting is disallowed in both. 11:08 minor correction: the beam-jumping (achieved via Shrapnel-mechanic) is always on - but *only* if the Prism Tank's target is an Infantry; for some reason only attacking Infantry will cause the beam to split. 12:25 sacrilege, I say! None can crush the Apocalypse! Those who try shall be crushed! 13:05 remembered that music video - the Kirovy by Direct and Dominate 13:15 the wonders of CellSpread on multi-cell Buildings! :) 13:55 if you've played MP, you'd know there'd always be mad rush for AA as soon as the first ZEP launches. Kirov reporting! 14:30 can confirm, the APOC isn't allowed to attack while moving - good thing we have a trick/exploit of sorts to bypass that. 15:29 not quite, APOC uses AAHeatSeekr, IFV uses AAHeatSeeker2 - APOC's missiles are set to be slower than the IFV's, but APOC's missiles turn a bit faster. Nice tier-list! I actually enjoyed the voice-over.
I love seeing your posts . An absolute oracle of satisfying nerdiness that always teaches me something new about the game. If vanilla is this interesting I would love to see a 20000 word essay on MO units at an attribute level. ❤
@@McRizzle23 All I did was look through the rules INI, tho. Anyone with some knowledge on how the game works or at least knows where to look can know this too.
@@CnCDune I have done my fair share of digging through the .ini and playing around with changing values (started by adjusting the nod arty as close as i could get back to vanilla tib sun hitscan goodness !) I remember messing up a value and giving the projectile the most Ridiculous arc (apparently on target via Callisto using a gravity boost from Jupiter on route 🤣🤣) I thoroughly enjoy the effort you put into explaining the info on the .ini in an entertaining and interesting format I have been seeing your comments on various RUclips channels and I enjoy every one !
11:08 It works with vehicles too, otherwise they wouldn't be so good against them when elite despite remaining slow and fragile, with their primary beam's DPS against vehicles merely going from poor to average. Just range alone wouldn't move the needle.
I can't believe I live in the times where tgSacred uploaded a voiceover episode! Great to hear you, man! Keep up the great work, but please don't forget about the meme faces in funny moments! I love that part of your channel so much. I still review your video when the AI nukes your base and you sell the naval port just to see your mainbase getting nuked and vice versa.
Back when I was playing with my high school friend, He spammed all the rhinos, flak tracks with desolators inside at me while I'm defending with basic tanks, and choppers, but little did he know. I ordered my 6 apocalypse tanks squad to destroy key structures ( War factories, barracks, then MCV ) he had no defenses, since he sent all his troops to my base, and had no idea I secretly have a war factory outside of my main base, lol. He couldn't build terror drone in time since his war factories are destroyed in seconds. he was having high hope of winning against me at the late game due to lack of resource, my investment into that apocalypse tank was worth it. He also had no choice but to divert his troops to his base, and watching my Veteran apocalypses annihilating them was satisfying, that leads to me ending the game with apocalypse tanks sneaking into his undefended base! it was an intense match for me.
Hope you enjoy! :D Btw, I created the channel below to upload Diablo2 videos from time to time to keep the current one clean. With the announcement of Titan Quest 2, I am planning on giving it a shot so if anyone is interested in Diablo 2 or Titan Quest 2, please join me here: www.youtube.com/@tgExcalibur Thanks!
As someone that used to play vs YR pros: Move Magnetron to S (automag and you win any tank battle), Terror Drone to A, S if you do Terror Drone Engi rush, Black Eagle is B tier, too expensive, Gattling is S, Robot Tank is D, useless, Chaos Drone is D if you use it without ctrl-alt spam, C if you do but its too expensive. Nighthawk is D, only use to take oils. IFV is S when promoted. Mastermind is S and S+ with Grinder next to it. Lasher tank is B tier it's a copy of Griz, V3 is D tier because missiles suck, Tesla is D because it has Prism tank armor and costs too much, Mirage is awesome because tanks don't auto target in tank battles but dies to Deso bomb, Apocalypse is D because it sucks shit, is slow and mind controllable (just buy more Rhinos), Demotruck and Kirov is D but A tier if you Engi rush take a factory and build one off the factory. Flak is A tier. Prism is an S tier unit when spammed but Rhino and Desobomb kills all of them, so I see it as A tier unit. Generally if Allies got to the point he's spamming Prisms he's won because that shit is pricy. It's also S when used in Chronosphere, "Chronobomb" as we used to call it because you can basically wipe out entire base in suicide runs. Siege Chopper should be A+ depending on terrain, if you land on cliffs you get range boost and it does Prism tank damage almost Tank Destroyer should be lower than D into E because it has no turret Edit: All miners should be S tier, Chrono Miners A tier, reason being spamming alt on the enemy Warfactory means they can drive up the exit and stop enemies going out and any damage goes to the structure
This tier list is supposed to be based on the units' capabilities in SP/against the AI though. I get that some are equally good in both (BFs, drones, Discs, Mirages, Siege Choppers), some are better in competitive (Robot Tanks, maybe Rhinos because they can be sometimes too "basic" to be useful against more specialized units in challenge missions), some are better in PvE (Apocs, Prisms, Eagles to various degrees), but OP is a mainly SP player and had PvE in mind.
Benefit of hindsight, and just my two cents, but I think Robot Tanks would have a better role in the Allied arsenal if they were equipped with anti-personnel weapons instead. Robot Tanks were added specifically as a hard counter to Yuri's mind control. However, the AP cannon that Robot Tanks are equipped with are poor matches against Yuri Clones, since the Mastermind is too costly and high up the tech tree to mass produce. The Allies do not have any strong anti-personnel options in Tier 2, since deployed GIs are for static defenses, and the Navy SEAL is not available until Tier 3. Robot Tanks with anti-personnel weapons are not only better suited against Yuri Clones, but also against Tesla Troopers as well.
Mental Omega mod literally did that, armed with anti-infantry lasers instead, and can detect invisible and disguised enemies... They're even hard counter against one hero whose forte is being invisible and able to kill units without alerting "unit lost"
Terror Drones are quite OP in original game that they have to be nerfed in Mental Omega mod (made more frail, can't be Iron Curtained and can't attack epic unit and certain heroes), but given ability to automatically attack disguised enemies like Spy Also note that Siege Choppers are built as hard counter against Prism Tanks
What I would change: - Robot tanks - Tier C instead of Tier B - reason: they do NOT get promoted. I can kinda understand the game-logic, since the robot tank is a ROBOT and has no human driver which gets promoted (which, I guess, is also the same game-logic why terror drones or dogs don't get promoted even though they can kill/destroy units), but it is a major deal-breaker for me, as I tend to rely on promoted units in my gameplay style. I know this can be changed in the game files, like if you are modding, but remember, not everyone is a modder ;) - Terror drones - Tier B instead of Tier S - reason: again, they do NOT get promoted, but also, IMO, their reputation is a bit overblown. Honestly, over the years, dealing with them became pretty easy for me. Seal-IFV instant kill, garrisoned infantry, deployed GIs, Repair-IFV fixes vehicles when mobile (also deals with IC-ed drones), gattling tanks and slave miners instant kill (they cannot infect slave miners too, neither mobile nor deployed), air units like siege choppers and discs in large numbers also basically instant kill... I get that they give Comrade Sofia an orgasm, but as an in-game unit, they're not really that powerful :D - Prism tanks - Tier A instead of Tier S - reason: no anti-air defense. Prisms are my absolute favorite unit in the game, 1000000%, now and forever (of course, this is just a personal preference), but their lack of AA fire combined with their weak armor is a major issue for me. Every so often I find myself spamming Prisms and forgetting to get IFVs or other AA, so when I attack and the enemy gets rocketeers, siege choppers or discs to counter, I wanna through my computer out the window... :D Finally, I really wanted to say Apoc tank as well, Tier S instead of Tier B, because of 5 words. Nine. Iron. Curtained. Heroic. Apocs. Especially in the Rynderack mod, pack 1, when the Soviets get 4 Iron Curtains - bruh... :D But, something you did not mention in the video - their slow speed and short firing range even when heroic makes them soooooo easily mind-controlled....... In Rynderack pack 2, during the Chinese campaign, I kept building Apocs in multiple missions, and the AI kept sending Yuri Clones and MMs after them and I was like "yup, computer-out-the-window time again" :D So yeah, for that reason alone, I think they are fine at Tier B. Otherwise, the list is pretty much spot on :)
Prism tank already is one of the strongest vehicles in game. Giving it AA defense and more armour would create an unstoppable monster. There is very little a sovjet player can do agains mass prisms (besides air). It outranges tesla coils easily. It slows down Apocs so badly, they barely reach them to get their own shot. It kills every building in seconds.....
as he said, this is a single player list. he dosnt do multiplayer. a couple kirovs can be game changing in multiplayer but completely worthless in single player cause the AI will build AA regardless if you build air or not. A player dosnt build AA unless he needs it.
Damn. I have almost expected exactly what you were going to rate everything because I agree with it. The only thing different is the terror drone. You value it more than the rhino tank??? 😮 If you just swap the rhino and terror, i agree with you 💯
You left out the miners!! Why didn't you include the miners! I always felt that the slave miner was overall the better of the three. The war miner holds twice the ore as the chrono miner, but the later teleports back...
tg made two/three videos that show all miners perfectly balanced - not considering cheesing/abusing the game-logics and mechanics for the Slave Miner of course.
I do find myself agreeing with most of the rankings. Although the Apocalypse could go up a tier. It's war in a can but certainly not S-Tier. Siege Choppers are best used in the mission they're introduced in of course. Also, why didn't you rank the mining units? Sure they're the only choice the factions have but if you had access to another tech tree during a skirmish or you captured some tech in the Campaign, which mining units would you prefer to have? Because I'd say the Slave Miner is best... if you can keep the thieves/snipers away, followed by the Chrono Miner for being able to escape or cut down half the trip even though it does have a lower capacity.
I had the script ready but at the end I was already overwhelmed and it would delay the video several days because I wouldn't have access to the PC. So I decided to publish it leaving the miners out as I also felt it was better to close it with the Apocalypse Tanks.
You forgot to mention Terror Drones are ideal counters against Yuri Clones. While dogs can attack them as well, they are still vulnerable to psy-wave attack, but Drones are completely immune to it.
In competitive or multiplayer, Apoc is just bad. I'd put in on C. In campaign and singleplayer? A high C maybe Low B. In skirmish they're okay... they can be good. But campaign, Apocs are bad, relegated to just base defense or if you need something absorb damage. I would LOVE to use Apocs in the campaign if it wasn't stacked against you whenever you're fighting Allies or... god forbid pushing through choke city with Yuris running around. To those who don't know: In Campaign, the Prism Towers are stronger than they are in Multiplayer or Skirmish. In where it normally takes 9 Prism Towers to reach max power to OHKO Apocs, it only takes 2 in the campaigns. It's fun in the allied campaigns where you can hold reasonably well with them. But when it's against you, it really sucks and it's like this irregardless of difficulty. Try not instantly winning Weathered Alliance by nuking the Weather Storm Machine. Try setting up a forward base on the same island and start spamming Apocalypse Tanks, tell me how long it takes and how many Apocs just get one-shotted by Prisms. --- Rest of the list. -Battlefortress is High A. It's a GOOD, Flexible unit. It's just expensive to make good. -Prism is S. Yes. Best Artillery Option. Prism-bomb/Chronobombs are just insane. -Floating Disc is high A, along with BF. You need like 3 or 5+ to make them almost lethal. -Terror Drone is B. It's good in certain instances but it's just too easy to defend against and too easy to get rid of even without a Repair IFV or Service Depots. You can stem the infection but shooting the infected vehicle once-you don't have to kill it, just enough damage that it'd be lethal to the drone. You will still lose that vehicle but it wont jump out to another. Siege Choppers are low S-tier. Best T3 option for Soviets. Rhino is high A-tier, higher than BF, possibly low S-tier with Choppers. -Mirage is king of A-tier. Just a good unit. -IFV is weird unit, for the most part it's Low A-Tier to Mid B-Tier. Though an Elite IFV is special, it's a Mid to High S-Tier unit and especially with good micro. The easiest way you can farm Elite IFVs is with Great Britain, get Sniper IFVs and just have them go ham on infantry groups. IFVs only need 1800-worth of units to be Elite, that's 9 GIs on perspective. -Black Eagle is B. It serves more-or-less the same role as the Harrier but it's better in every way. -Grizzly is fine here. It's serviceable as an MBT, you need to have 3 to 1 Rhinos in order to be toe-to-toe and come out on top, which should be relatively easy since Grizzlies are 200 less. -Flak Track, I'll lump it with IFV in low A-Tier, this is your best Anti-Air option has Soviet. The transport bit is nice utility too. Maybe a bit better than IFV since it's HEAVY armor versus the Gat Tank and IFV's LIGHT armor. -Gat Tank, better than base IFV, better than Flak Track in single target DPS. Could even be Low S-tier since it is an essential part of the Yuri deathball. -Kirov is D. Except in certain campaign missions where you can with them with very little resistance (Red Revolution(speedrun strat), Polar Storm(come from WEST of the Chronosphere for the least amount of Patriots) and Deja vu (come from North of Einstein's Lab.)). -Tesla Tank is Middle C. I don't like it's low HP for a HEAVY armor tank and it practically engages things in melee so eh. -Robot Tanks are D. Or even Mid C in certain strategies. They're far cheaper than Destroyers in Navy maps and come in droves usually. -Mastermind is S-tier. You need like 1 or 2 to just mess with your opponent's micro since they can just take units away from your opponent. Don't worry too much about the overload, so long as you can get rid of your mind controlled units, the Yuri deathball will keep rolling and keep reinforcing. -Harrier, under the Black Eagle. Same role, that being a good Early game tank hunter since they output so much damage to armor, they're just good units for that; it lessens the blow of having to face non-ideal/compositional MBT ratios. -Lasher is a copy of Grizzly, stat-wise. -V3 Rocket is D. Bad. -Nighthawk is firmly B. The machinegun is actually decent as deterreny. Capping oils faster than navy can is fun. -Demo Truck is exactly where it is. It's destructive but it so easy to screw yourself up with it. -Chaos Drone is D. Trash. -Tank Destroyer is D. Just no.
Elite Miners (War Miners and Slave Miners) are kinda over-exaggerated in terms of their effectivity. So okay. Their a guns get upgraded to low-range Howitzers which is a difference between Tank Cannons. Howitzers are more Explosive damage compared to Tank Cannons which lean more to Armor Piercing damage. This means the Miner's Elite Guns are still pretty anti-infantry (kinda worse since it's now a projectile instead of an instant hit weapon.) and... weirdly... anti-structure? But its base damage so small that you're better off using actual combat units!
I played Red Alert Remastered with mod (if need stronger AI, can try Mujalli mod, other mods also good, like Veterancy mod, AI-Boost mod and RA New Features mod) before, same to 8-Bit series (8-Bit Armies, 8-Bit Hordes and 8-Bit Invaders), 9-Bit Armies: A Bit Too Far, but after these days, I realized people prefer PVP more than PVE. So I stopped upload everyday, since I feel my effort make no any scene. I stopped playing Red Alert Remastered because everytime if I drag battle more than 40 mins, or trying different gameplay (like unit only, or defend building only), then I got dislike and not suggest this channel, so now my channel is shadow banned, comment will sink very quick, can't find my video on youtube easy. If need some ideas, can try to let Infantry on top, then build a Allies Tech Center on bottom, then can see what will happened when Tech Center launched GPS. Or capture AI's warfactory when vehicle comes out (will be easier in aftermath, AI will sell building when HP bar turn into Red, that's why hard to capture AI's building in original Red Alert, need to damage building, let HP turn into Red, except Construction yard.)
Good video. Like yourbvoice. Maybe younshould consider kommenting your gamplays like this. Would be be better instead of reading your comments all the time
Good video. Hope to hear you more, even if sometimes i can't quite understand what has been said since i am not fluent English as well. But that is only question of practice. Also i think you forgot to mention that Korean Black Eagle can shoot air unit while harrier can't which make them even more better. And, TS Soundtrack, that meant we could get some TS content ? (0 )(0 ) Anyway, good video, can't wait to see and hear more : )
Air-to-air combat for true AircraftTypes (as opposed to JumpJet VehicleTypes) is impossible in RA2YR - it's an engine thing. So no, BEAGs can't attack air, neither can the FALC or any other true Aircraft.
You seems to hate yuri units most of them should be higher tier especially Magnetron, also in my opinion apocalypse and kerov should be in s and A tiers,black hawk,harriers and black eagle should be at lower tiers
tg made two/three videos that show all miners perfectly balanced - not considering cheesing/abusing the game-logics and mechanics for the Slave Miner of course.
It's slow, it's really expensive and it has low range attack. No, its definitively not S. I prefer to buy 2 Rhinos instead. If not considering AA defense they are superior to the Apoc.
@@tg.Sacred due to it’s slow speed, high cooldown and low firing range, it is difficult to use. A well balanced defending base can waste many Apocalypse with conceding little loss.
Mmmmm B tier flak cannon, it's the better anti air unit. IFV needs other Unit to glow up. Flak also it's gold agains infantery with aoe DMG. AND dont need other Unit. Edit : Seeing all video weird choices, magnetron AND mastermind tier B??? , i dunno but maybe chopper Is a S tier, it's the uniqué Unit can defeat BFs.
god, your voice😂 sounds just like i imagined it...a nerd... but about the tier units...put the terror drone down next to chaos drone. and move the APOC up to super.❤
![Red Alert 2: [YR] Rynderack Project 2 - Secret Mission](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0jXyKeG8F0c/mqdefault.jpg)
![Red Alert 2: [YR] Rynderack Project 2 - Secret Mission](/img/tr.png)
Remember folks! Infantry in IFVs only dictate the weapon the Vehicle should use, but the infantry never actually fires or uses its weapon(s)! Meanwhile, the BattleFort allows Infantry to shoot out - the weapon infantry use is dictated by the key OpenTransportWeapon in the Infantry's code itself.
4:06 funny you mention the animation - the DRON isn't animated, it was animated by WW and all we're seeing is what is essentially just a GIF of that animation. The exact same situation with Buildings and Infantry; and, back in the days of Dune 2, TibDawn and RA1, the same applied to Vehicles and Aircraft.
4:50 CAOS' Psychedelic gas doesn't stack - the timer resets every time upon application, like other internal timers (Iron Curtain, Shield, etc.). This mirrors the EMP-behaviour in TibSun, btw.
6:10 the BEAGs are a 33% superior version of the FALC in all aspects but speed - for the same price.
6:40 a rare sight: warhead detonated on bridge - with a high enough CellSpread, Aircraft also get hit.
If this had happened on regular ground this wouldn't have happened - it's an engine quirk Ares allows to customise for individual Warheads.
8:00 can confirm - the key that allows units to fire while moving is *OpportunityFire* - it defaults to *No* and the TNKD's code doesn't change that value.
They deal a miserable 3 damage points against anything that isn't Light or Heavy - "no armor's too tough" indeed.
8:50 you forgot to mention the best part: after MC-ing 11 units it will blow up immediately if it didn't collect an Armor crate - this is because the base game is set to bump the Overload-damage from 100 to 500 points (regardless of armor and/or using a Warhead that is 100% effective against the MIND) as soon as it controls more than 10.
8:59 the Tesla Tank, according to the load-screen, is supposed to short-circuit vehicles - which isn't possible since EMP is disabled/unavailable without Ares DLL.
9:14 Rhino's 120mm's Range is 5.75, TTNK's TankBolt's Range is 4 - effectively two cells...
9:34 the MGTK used to be able to have a customisable disguise - if the TankMakeupKit is equipped properly it'll allow players to pick traffic lights, lamp posts, and trees other than the first four trees listed in the game. This would've made much more viable in urban sections of maps.
But, unfortunately, that custom disguise is forgotten and needs to be manually re-set if the MGTK goes anywhere.
10:02 I've been wondering about that... specifically, the keys AttackCursorOnDisguise and TreeTargeting and how they affect this.
10:12 intersting... AttackCursorOnDisguise is no in RA2, but yes in YR. TreeTargeting is disallowed in both.
11:08 minor correction: the beam-jumping (achieved via Shrapnel-mechanic) is always on - but *only* if the Prism Tank's target is an Infantry; for some reason only attacking Infantry will cause the beam to split.
12:25 sacrilege, I say! None can crush the Apocalypse! Those who try shall be crushed!
13:05 remembered that music video - the Kirovy by Direct and Dominate
13:15 the wonders of CellSpread on multi-cell Buildings! :)
13:55 if you've played MP, you'd know there'd always be mad rush for AA as soon as the first ZEP launches. Kirov reporting!
14:30 can confirm, the APOC isn't allowed to attack while moving - good thing we have a trick/exploit of sorts to bypass that.
15:29 not quite, APOC uses AAHeatSeekr, IFV uses AAHeatSeeker2 - APOC's missiles are set to be slower than the IFV's, but APOC's missiles turn a bit faster.
Nice tier-list! I actually enjoyed the voice-over.
I love seeing your posts . An absolute oracle of satisfying nerdiness that always teaches me something new about the game.
If vanilla is this interesting I would love to see a 20000 word essay on MO units at an attribute level.
❤
@@McRizzle23 All I did was look through the rules INI, tho.
Anyone with some knowledge on how the game works or at least knows where to look can know this too.
@@CnCDune I have done my fair share of digging through the .ini and playing around with changing values (started by adjusting the nod arty as close as i could get back to vanilla tib sun hitscan goodness !) I remember messing up a value and giving the projectile the most Ridiculous arc (apparently on target via Callisto using a gravity boost from Jupiter on route 🤣🤣)
I thoroughly enjoy the effort you put into explaining the info on the .ini in an entertaining and interesting format I have been seeing your comments on various RUclips channels and I enjoy every one !
11:08 It works with vehicles too, otherwise they wouldn't be so good against them when elite despite remaining slow and fragile, with their primary beam's DPS against vehicles merely going from poor to average. Just range alone wouldn't move the needle.
And what is it "Ares DDL?"
I can't believe I live in the times where tgSacred uploaded a voiceover episode! Great to hear you, man! Keep up the great work, but please don't forget about the meme faces in funny moments! I love that part of your channel so much. I still review your video when the AI nukes your base and you sell the naval port just to see your mainbase getting nuked and vice versa.
I had no idea the Blackhawk was stealthy, all this time lol😂
And I play this since forever ago and still do
It's something you'd rarely notice, as the SHAD is barely used in MP compared to the IFV.
@@CnCDune well it's one of the units I don't ever use to pay attention to
Empty rookie IFV: D tier
Empty elite IFV: S tier
duality of IFV
>Apocalypse Tank B tier
APOCALYPSE TANK SLANDER WILL NOT BE TOLERATED, COMRADE!
Also, great to hear your voice, bud :D
Rhino can outrange basic defence if placing them in the max range.
Flak track is the best...... as being a taxi.
Back when I was playing with my high school friend, He spammed all the rhinos, flak tracks with desolators inside at me while I'm defending with basic tanks, and choppers, but little did he know. I ordered my 6 apocalypse tanks squad to destroy key structures ( War factories, barracks, then MCV ) he had no defenses, since he sent all his troops to my base, and had no idea I secretly have a war factory outside of my main base, lol. He couldn't build terror drone in time since his war factories are destroyed in seconds. he was having high hope of winning against me at the late game due to lack of resource, my investment into that apocalypse tank was worth it. He also had no choice but to divert his troops to his base, and watching my Veteran apocalypses annihilating them was satisfying, that leads to me ending the game with apocalypse tanks sneaking into his undefended base! it was an intense match for me.
Hope you enjoy! :D
Btw, I created the channel below to upload Diablo2 videos from time to time to keep the current one clean.
With the announcement of Titan Quest 2, I am planning on giving it a shot so if anyone is interested in Diablo 2 or Titan Quest 2, please join me here:
www.youtube.com/@tgExcalibur
Thanks!
YO WE SHOULD PLAY IT
Subscribed it :)
@@Nobody-yt9gzme too
Will you make simmilar tier list to Mental Omega units?
@@Nobody-yt9gz same
best vid ever released on youtube
ITS A 17 MINUTE VIDEO AND ITS BEEN OUT FOR A SINGLE MINUTE BRO 😭😭U DIDNT EVEN WATCH IT
i watched it 7 times already
@@-Phaser *trains 50 prism tanks and sends it towards phaser's base* no ya didn't
@@-Phaser Guys come on, he watched it and then used the chronosphere. 🤣
Thank you for the varied content, and for your fun, personal approach to it! Love your channel so much!
Hmm i played this game for more than 20 years, i never noticed the nigthHawk was undetected on the radar 😅
Good video by the way 👍
I don't even play this game anymore but I always like clicking on your videos
Thank you. 🙏
I was just thinking about searching and watching a RA2 units Tier List Video just to receive a noti. about this video!
Enlighten me! :D
Marvelous. Quite astonishing!
14:00 i was expecting that u put Lt. Zofia's voice anytime. and damn bro u never disappoint XD
I remember asking you about this 2 years ago!
It's been a long time... :D
How about the chad soviet harvester? Mind control immune, machine-gun, well protected. War Miner is the best miner, cause war is his metal guts!
You really believe it's better than the Slave Miner? Nah bruv
The post credits scene is excellent haha
As someone that used to play vs YR pros:
Move Magnetron to S (automag and you win any tank battle), Terror Drone to A, S if you do Terror Drone Engi rush, Black Eagle is B tier, too expensive, Gattling is S, Robot Tank is D, useless, Chaos Drone is D if you use it without ctrl-alt spam, C if you do but its too expensive. Nighthawk is D, only use to take oils. IFV is S when promoted. Mastermind is S and S+ with Grinder next to it. Lasher tank is B tier it's a copy of Griz, V3 is D tier because missiles suck, Tesla is D because it has Prism tank armor and costs too much, Mirage is awesome because tanks don't auto target in tank battles but dies to Deso bomb, Apocalypse is D because it sucks shit, is slow and mind controllable (just buy more Rhinos), Demotruck and Kirov is D but A tier if you Engi rush take a factory and build one off the factory. Flak is A tier.
Prism is an S tier unit when spammed but Rhino and Desobomb kills all of them, so I see it as A tier unit. Generally if Allies got to the point he's spamming Prisms he's won because that shit is pricy. It's also S when used in Chronosphere, "Chronobomb" as we used to call it because you can basically wipe out entire base in suicide runs.
Siege Chopper should be A+ depending on terrain, if you land on cliffs you get range boost and it does Prism tank damage almost
Tank Destroyer should be lower than D into E because it has no turret
Edit: All miners should be S tier, Chrono Miners A tier, reason being spamming alt on the enemy Warfactory means they can drive up the exit and stop enemies going out and any damage goes to the structure
This tier list is supposed to be based on the units' capabilities in SP/against the AI though. I get that some are equally good in both (BFs, drones, Discs, Mirages, Siege Choppers), some are better in competitive (Robot Tanks, maybe Rhinos because they can be sometimes too "basic" to be useful against more specialized units in challenge missions), some are better in PvE (Apocs, Prisms, Eagles to various degrees), but OP is a mainly SP player and had PvE in mind.
I don't argue with that. But opinions vary!
Wild. I can’t imagine how long this would have taken to make
🙏🙏
Waiting for the defenses tier list:)
Good idea!
Benefit of hindsight, and just my two cents, but I think Robot Tanks would have a better role in the Allied arsenal if they were equipped with anti-personnel weapons instead.
Robot Tanks were added specifically as a hard counter to Yuri's mind control. However, the AP cannon that Robot Tanks are equipped with are poor matches against Yuri Clones, since the Mastermind is too costly and high up the tech tree to mass produce. The Allies do not have any strong anti-personnel options in Tier 2, since deployed GIs are for static defenses, and the Navy SEAL is not available until Tier 3. Robot Tanks with anti-personnel weapons are not only better suited against Yuri Clones, but also against Tesla Troopers as well.
Mental Omega mod literally did that, armed with anti-infantry lasers instead, and can detect invisible and disguised enemies... They're even hard counter against one hero whose forte is being invisible and able to kill units without alerting "unit lost"
Terror Drones are quite OP in original game that they have to be nerfed in Mental Omega mod (made more frail, can't be Iron Curtained and can't attack epic unit and certain heroes), but given ability to automatically attack disguised enemies like Spy
Also note that Siege Choppers are built as hard counter against Prism Tanks
Terror drone > Tier B
Apocalypse > Tier A
Mastermind > Tier A
And others are same. This is my tier list
What I would change:
- Robot tanks - Tier C instead of Tier B - reason: they do NOT get promoted. I can kinda understand the game-logic, since the robot tank is a ROBOT and has no human driver which gets promoted (which, I guess, is also the same game-logic why terror drones or dogs don't get promoted even though they can kill/destroy units), but it is a major deal-breaker for me, as I tend to rely on promoted units in my gameplay style. I know this can be changed in the game files, like if you are modding, but remember, not everyone is a modder ;)
- Terror drones - Tier B instead of Tier S - reason: again, they do NOT get promoted, but also, IMO, their reputation is a bit overblown. Honestly, over the years, dealing with them became pretty easy for me. Seal-IFV instant kill, garrisoned infantry, deployed GIs, Repair-IFV fixes vehicles when mobile (also deals with IC-ed drones), gattling tanks and slave miners instant kill (they cannot infect slave miners too, neither mobile nor deployed), air units like siege choppers and discs in large numbers also basically instant kill... I get that they give Comrade Sofia an orgasm, but as an in-game unit, they're not really that powerful :D
- Prism tanks - Tier A instead of Tier S - reason: no anti-air defense. Prisms are my absolute favorite unit in the game, 1000000%, now and forever (of course, this is just a personal preference), but their lack of AA fire combined with their weak armor is a major issue for me. Every so often I find myself spamming Prisms and forgetting to get IFVs or other AA, so when I attack and the enemy gets rocketeers, siege choppers or discs to counter, I wanna through my computer out the window... :D
Finally, I really wanted to say Apoc tank as well, Tier S instead of Tier B, because of 5 words. Nine. Iron. Curtained. Heroic. Apocs. Especially in the Rynderack mod, pack 1, when the Soviets get 4 Iron Curtains - bruh... :D But, something you did not mention in the video - their slow speed and short firing range even when heroic makes them soooooo easily mind-controlled....... In Rynderack pack 2, during the Chinese campaign, I kept building Apocs in multiple missions, and the AI kept sending Yuri Clones and MMs after them and I was like "yup, computer-out-the-window time again" :D So yeah, for that reason alone, I think they are fine at Tier B.
Otherwise, the list is pretty much spot on :)
Prism tank already is one of the strongest vehicles in game. Giving it AA defense and more armour would create an unstoppable monster.
There is very little a sovjet player can do agains mass prisms (besides air). It outranges tesla coils easily. It slows down Apocs so badly, they barely reach them to get their own shot. It kills every building in seconds.....
11:39 Siege Choppers are really underrated AF.
The IFV is definitely Tier S, when you consider that you can promote it by attacking your own units while a Chrono Legionnaire is inside it.
Yooo you should make more voice overs 🔥
Rhino tanks should be in S tier bro. And every pro ra2 player would agree.
as he said, this is a single player list. he dosnt do multiplayer. a couple kirovs can be game changing in multiplayer but completely worthless in single player cause the AI will build AA regardless if you build air or not. A player dosnt build AA unless he needs it.
@@icer1249 Playing against bots is for noobs
Voice-reveal? What's the occasion? :)
No reason! J
Just to improve the quality of the video perhaps?
Damn. I have almost expected exactly what you were going to rate everything because I agree with it. The only thing different is the terror drone. You value it more than the rhino tank??? 😮 If you just swap the rhino and terror, i agree with you 💯
You left out the miners!! Why didn't you include the miners!
I always felt that the slave miner was overall the better of the three. The war miner holds twice the ore as the chrono miner, but the later teleports back...
tg made two/three videos that show all miners perfectly balanced - not considering cheesing/abusing the game-logics and mechanics for the Slave Miner of course.
Make a Mental Omega vehicle Tier list
Love it!
Very good video 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
very good video
I do find myself agreeing with most of the rankings. Although the Apocalypse could go up a tier. It's war in a can but certainly not S-Tier.
Siege Choppers are best used in the mission they're introduced in of course.
Also, why didn't you rank the mining units? Sure they're the only choice the factions have but if you had access to another tech tree during a skirmish or you captured some tech in the Campaign, which mining units would you prefer to have?
Because I'd say the Slave Miner is best... if you can keep the thieves/snipers away, followed by the Chrono Miner for being able to escape or cut down half the trip even though it does have a lower capacity.
I had the script ready but at the end I was already overwhelmed and it would delay the video several days because I wouldn't have access to the PC.
So I decided to publish it leaving the miners out as I also felt it was better to close it with the Apocalypse Tanks.
Comrade tg has a voice!❤
Kirov and Apocalypse at least deserves an A😢
Yay at least a voice 🎉🎉🎉🎉
flak should be in A cause it’s only main anti-air of soviet
You forgot to mention Terror Drones are ideal counters against Yuri Clones. While dogs can attack them as well, they are still vulnerable to psy-wave attack, but Drones are completely immune to it.
I don't think the AI ever uses the psi-wave though?
Well there are dozens more of stuff to be mentioned I guess.
Some I might forgot and some may be to obvious to mention.
Next: China Mission in Rynderack Project 2
In competitive or multiplayer, Apoc is just bad. I'd put in on C.
In campaign and singleplayer? A high C maybe Low B.
In skirmish they're okay... they can be good. But campaign, Apocs are bad, relegated to just base defense or if you need something absorb damage.
I would LOVE to use Apocs in the campaign if it wasn't stacked against you whenever you're fighting Allies or... god forbid pushing through choke city with Yuris running around.
To those who don't know: In Campaign, the Prism Towers are stronger than they are in Multiplayer or Skirmish.
In where it normally takes 9 Prism Towers to reach max power to OHKO Apocs, it only takes 2 in the campaigns.
It's fun in the allied campaigns where you can hold reasonably well with them.
But when it's against you, it really sucks and it's like this irregardless of difficulty.
Try not instantly winning Weathered Alliance by nuking the Weather Storm Machine. Try setting up a forward base on the same island and start spamming Apocalypse Tanks, tell me how long it takes and how many Apocs just get one-shotted by Prisms.
---
Rest of the list.
-Battlefortress is High A. It's a GOOD, Flexible unit. It's just expensive to make good.
-Prism is S. Yes. Best Artillery Option. Prism-bomb/Chronobombs are just insane.
-Floating Disc is high A, along with BF. You need like 3 or 5+ to make them almost lethal.
-Terror Drone is B. It's good in certain instances but it's just too easy to defend against and too easy to get rid of even without a Repair IFV or Service Depots.
You can stem the infection but shooting the infected vehicle once-you don't have to kill it, just enough damage that it'd be lethal to the drone. You will still lose that vehicle but it wont jump out to another.
Siege Choppers are low S-tier. Best T3 option for Soviets.
Rhino is high A-tier, higher than BF, possibly low S-tier with Choppers.
-Mirage is king of A-tier. Just a good unit.
-IFV is weird unit, for the most part it's Low A-Tier to Mid B-Tier. Though an Elite IFV is special, it's a Mid to High S-Tier unit and especially with good micro. The easiest way you can farm Elite IFVs is with Great Britain, get Sniper IFVs and just have them go ham on infantry groups. IFVs only need 1800-worth of units to be Elite, that's 9 GIs on perspective.
-Black Eagle is B. It serves more-or-less the same role as the Harrier but it's better in every way.
-Grizzly is fine here. It's serviceable as an MBT, you need to have 3 to 1 Rhinos in order to be toe-to-toe and come out on top, which should be relatively easy since Grizzlies are 200 less.
-Flak Track, I'll lump it with IFV in low A-Tier, this is your best Anti-Air option has Soviet. The transport bit is nice utility too. Maybe a bit better than IFV since it's HEAVY armor versus the Gat Tank and IFV's LIGHT armor.
-Gat Tank, better than base IFV, better than Flak Track in single target DPS. Could even be Low S-tier since it is an essential part of the Yuri deathball.
-Kirov is D. Except in certain campaign missions where you can with them with very little resistance (Red Revolution(speedrun strat), Polar Storm(come from WEST of the Chronosphere for the least amount of Patriots) and Deja vu (come from North of Einstein's Lab.)).
-Tesla Tank is Middle C. I don't like it's low HP for a HEAVY armor tank and it practically engages things in melee so eh.
-Robot Tanks are D. Or even Mid C in certain strategies. They're far cheaper than Destroyers in Navy maps and come in droves usually.
-Mastermind is S-tier.
You need like 1 or 2 to just mess with your opponent's micro since they can just take units away from your opponent. Don't worry too much about the overload, so long as you can get rid of your mind controlled units, the Yuri deathball will keep rolling and keep reinforcing.
-Harrier, under the Black Eagle. Same role, that being a good Early game tank hunter since they output so much damage to armor, they're just good units for that; it lessens the blow of having to face non-ideal/compositional MBT ratios.
-Lasher is a copy of Grizzly, stat-wise.
-V3 Rocket is D. Bad.
-Nighthawk is firmly B. The machinegun is actually decent as deterreny. Capping oils faster than navy can is fun.
-Demo Truck is exactly where it is. It's destructive but it so easy to screw yourself up with it.
-Chaos Drone is D. Trash.
-Tank Destroyer is D. Just no.
Thank you for your input!
Be patient
Not just IFV, any vehicle when it's elite & used properly is scary, even a miner
Elite Miners (War Miners and Slave Miners) are kinda over-exaggerated in terms of their effectivity.
So okay. Their a guns get upgraded to low-range Howitzers which is a difference between Tank Cannons.
Howitzers are more Explosive damage compared to Tank Cannons which lean more to Armor Piercing damage.
This means the Miner's Elite Guns are still pretty anti-infantry (kinda worse since it's now a projectile instead of an instant hit weapon.) and... weirdly... anti-structure?
But its base damage so small that you're better off using actual combat units!
15:22 Zombie attack on IFV!!!!
Nice catch!
Good work, well, if out of ideas, maybe can try to against AI in skirmish, from first map to last, I practiced Red Alert Remastered by that before.
I played Red Alert Remastered with mod (if need stronger AI, can try Mujalli mod, other mods also good, like Veterancy mod, AI-Boost mod and RA New Features mod) before, same to 8-Bit series (8-Bit Armies, 8-Bit Hordes and 8-Bit Invaders), 9-Bit Armies: A Bit Too Far, but after these days, I realized people prefer PVP more than PVE.
So I stopped upload everyday, since I feel my effort make no any scene.
I stopped playing Red Alert Remastered because everytime if I drag battle more than 40 mins, or trying different gameplay (like unit only, or defend building only), then I got dislike and not suggest this channel, so now my channel is shadow banned, comment will sink very quick, can't find my video on youtube easy.
If need some ideas, can try to let Infantry on top, then build a Allies Tech Center on bottom, then can see what will happened when Tech Center launched GPS.
Or capture AI's warfactory when vehicle comes out (will be easier in aftermath, AI will sell building when HP bar turn into Red, that's why hard to capture AI's building in original Red Alert, need to damage building, let HP turn into Red, except Construction yard.)
what mod of RA2 with stealth bomber, MIG, October Sub, Spy in Soviet, sea mines?
Good video. Like yourbvoice. Maybe younshould consider kommenting your gamplays like this. Would be be better instead of reading your comments all the time
Fucking awesome!
TG , do a video , testing unused unit , I wanna see how howitzer tank can compare cuz their really spammable >:)
Terror drone in s , apoc in b - legit.
Good video. Hope to hear you more, even if sometimes i can't quite understand what has been said since i am not fluent English as well. But that is only question of practice. Also i think you forgot to mention that Korean Black Eagle can shoot air unit while harrier can't which make them even more better. And, TS Soundtrack, that meant we could get some TS content ? (0 )(0 )
Anyway, good video, can't wait to see and hear more : )
Air-to-air combat for true AircraftTypes (as opposed to JumpJet VehicleTypes) is impossible in RA2YR - it's an engine thing.
So no, BEAGs can't attack air, neither can the FALC or any other true Aircraft.
@@CnCDune hmm... weird. Then apologies. It seems i confused with some mod.
Apocalypse is the best unit
You seems to hate yuri units most of them should be higher tier especially Magnetron, also in my opinion apocalypse and kerov should be in s and A tiers,black hawk,harriers and black eagle should be at lower tiers
no war miner or chrono miner ?
tg made two/three videos that show all miners perfectly balanced - not considering cheesing/abusing the game-logics and mechanics for the Slave Miner of course.
MASTERMİND is always seems scarier than KİROV
I dont remembr why i never tried terror drone
APOCALYPSE TANK IS B TIER?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
ARE YOU HIGH BRUV?!
ITS S!!!!
You did this as a rage bait 100%
It's slow, it's really expensive and it has low range attack. No, its definitively not S.
I prefer to buy 2 Rhinos instead. If not considering AA defense they are superior to the Apoc.
Apocalypse is my favorite vehicle and I tend to use it a lot but I didn't want to be biased.
TD's on D tier 😭
It makes me sad too. But it's correct. They are worthless.
Love the list @tg.Sacred
But Apocalypse Tank in B tier, is a mistake... More like in the A tier...
The reason I liked the video is the rank of Apocalypse Tank. It is really overrated.
Apocalypse is my favorite vehicle and I tend to use it a lot but I didn't want to be biased.
@@tg.Sacred due to it’s slow speed, high cooldown and low firing range, it is difficult to use. A well balanced defending base can waste many Apocalypse with conceding little loss.
Mmmmm B tier flak cannon, it's the better anti air unit. IFV needs other Unit to glow up. Flak also it's gold agains infantery with aoe DMG. AND dont need other Unit.
Edit : Seeing all video weird choices, magnetron AND mastermind tier B??? , i dunno but maybe chopper Is a S tier, it's the uniqué Unit can defeat BFs.
I agree, flak tracks should at least be in the same tier as IFVs
tg with voice?!
Yay!
red alert 2 now will realize in mobile platform are u gonna play that too?
Any and all mobile versions are utter crap - RTS is best played on proper machines.
Probably not but I may just take a look.
I pretty much agree with the list except the apocalypse tank!
had it been an A I wouldnt complain but B? i think its too low
Noooo, apocalypse should be at least A tier
Apocalypse is my favorite vehicle and I tend to use it a lot but I didn't want to be biased.
Grizzly tanks kinda suck ngl
Appocalipsys tank on B rank? It must be at least at A.
Putting apocalypse in B tier is criminal comrade.
It's A obviously.
No, B is accurate. It's barely used in competitive play.
@@timjkoala7556this list is based of more PvE not PvP
Apocalypse is my favorite vehicle and I tend to use it a lot but I didn't want to be biased.
@@tg.Sacred k man, got it. As for me, the apocalypse is the game symbol, the sinonym of power and also a meme on a tracks :)
god, your voice😂 sounds just like i imagined it...a nerd... but about the tier units...put the terror drone down next to chaos drone.
and move the APOC up to super.❤
Nerd?