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Something else to know is that much of the Tulsa area is part of the Muscogee Nation. There are jurisdictional matters that may or may not apply to you if you move here.
Any idea which city has more restaurants or more restaurants per capita? We eat out pretty much every day, so we need an area that has lots to choose from as far as restaurants go.
Depends. Well into the west side of town OKC is flatter but east to central OKC is more hilly and nice. That also describes Tulsa to a significant degree. It depends on what part of town in which you happen to be. Both are nice, clean and attractive cities.
actually Tulsa MSA is roughly 1.2M with OKC MSA 1.6M although both are growing only 1-1.5% nothing close to the double digit growth of most Texas cities have been growing...Texas is sucking in all good jobs for the region...
The issue lost in your population density argument is that OKCs large area includes significant watershed that’s unliveable. The urban area of OKC compares favorably to Tulsa and other cities in reality although I’d agree that Tulsa has MORE density areas than OKC (which has way more suburban areas). OKC metro area (which you didn’t mention) is also 50% larger in population than Tulsa by city or metro. Therefore, the reality is OKC is bigger by far, which is also why we call OKC “the city”.
I'd say the reason we win out in density is because it's large geographically. Of course it will vary around town, but I can't break it down neighborhood to neighborhood. I'm giving a general overview.
I lived in OKC during the first oil boom late 70' s to Dec 1981 ....to me it was a dirty oil cow town.....I was coming from Dallas though. Yeah Tulsa was LOTS nicer.....Then i went to OSU in 84 to 87 still Tulsa was the nicer of the 2 and we would goto Tulsa before OKC.....but we could not pick up but on Tulsa tv station but got all of OKC's .....I never saw much to OKC we would ride around the lakes on my motorcycle back then.I had a Honda 550 four and a Yamaha trail bike. It looks nice (OKC) but still the weather would keep me away. I have a friend who has tried to talk me into moving to Tulsa for 20 years......but I like Tempe AZ ....no cold, no tornado's , no floods....its great for retired people.
I live in Phoenix...they have Monsoons (heat thunderstorms with lots of rain) and occassionally they have tornados, but people call them "microbursts", one reporter called a tornado a landspout...I was just laughing my ass off...Phoenix is no longer cheap place to retire...
@@davidlaney6153 I was born In AZ went to Mcclintock high in Tempe ....and moved way from AZ a few times in my life.... lived in Dallas area.....Houston......OKC....Stillwater....and Toronto CA for almost 6 years.... Here is shocker.....there is no place cheap to retire anymore.....unless you want to move to a Ghetto like Houston... It use to be OK 40 years ago....now its a dump. I was in Austin in June.....its turned into CA with home prices have gone up 2x or more in a few years.....crazy. I had bought 3 condo's in North Scottsdale in late 2001 that were all repo's from Wells Fargo and leased out for "golf vacations" at Kierlands....when I sold them in Aug 06.....I sold all three and retired at 50..... Some years you get some good rains ....then 3 years of almost zero.
This was definitely helpful, but what city is more friendly, traffic, who has better school districts, is one city more liberal than the other, which is more blue collar ? Any unbiased opinion want to weigh in here?
The answers you get will depend on who you ask for sure. I would say both are friendly, not sure on traffic, the school districts are very similar, and both have sections that are blue collar. Remember that OKC is geographically huge, so definitely has various neighborhoods of all price ranges and styles. OKC is probably a bit more liberal, but not by much. People in OKC think Tulsans are liberal, and Tulsans think OKC is liberal...;)
As a Tulsan I never hated or disliked OKC. In fact I heard the opposite, that people from OKC hated Tulsans. I would hear that they thought we were stuck up or whatever, but I just always thought that we were pretty similar, the only difference being location. I did get indignant at the people who were divisive, but OKC is fine by me. I admit that I love being in Tulsa more, but I know that OKC appeals more to some and Tulsa more to others. That's just the nature of opinions. But don't get me started on the Thunder. I still am upset at the fact that they expect the rest of the state, especially Tulsa, to support them while not giving us any respect by naming the team after the state or region like numerous other teams have. (In fact they weren't going to get a team without our dedicated support). Good on OKC for getting a team, but I have not and will not support them. (This is not a dig against the city or citizens, but the owner of the team). Sorry for ranting.
Thanks for the message. We are pretty similar. That's what makes it weird and funny. Aren't most NBA teams named for the cities they are in? Portland, LA, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Milwaukee, Boston, Chicago...?
@@NatalieBratton Yes, but then there is the Utah Jazz. What I meant was that there are other teams from other sports like the NFL (New England Patriots, Arizona Cardinals), and MLB (Texas Rangers, Colorado Rockies, Arizona Diamondbacks). I would have been fine if we weren't practically expected to give the team money without being recognized. Oh well.
As far as the thunder people forget that the presentation to the NBA was that the team would have fans in Tulsa but also Wichita and part of north Texas. So that being the case why not the oklawich thunder or oklanortex thunder. No one in Tulsa invested financially in bringing to team over to okc from Seattle. The owners chose the name Tulsa was not disrespected.
@@dwightanderson8331 I think we have a different understanding of what disrespect means. Being used is disrespectful. The rest of the state was used by Clay Bennett to get something explicitly not for the rest of the state. Saying "This isn't even partly yours, but give me money so I can keep it," is disrespectful. This may be fine with other people but I don't care much for it. Not my city, not my team. Regardless it seems by your comment that we both can agree that the Thunder needs the rest of the state and outlying areas of the state, but refuses to acknowledge us. And as far as naming a team after a region goes I point you to the name New England Patriots. That encompasses quite a bit of area outside Foxborough.
Perhaps people in Enid should be mad or Lawton or Ponca city or Wichita,Kansas or Durant since their areas to were used as part of the team's potential fan base in their presentation to the NBA. Just because the Tulsa area was part of the conversation didn't mean the team had to be called the Oklahoma Thunder. Since the Kansas city chiefs have a fan base in Kansas and some in Oklahoma should they have been called something more Oklahoma or Kansas like? Since they are located in Missouri why shouldn't they be the Missouri chiefs instead? Simple the owners named it after the city it's in nothing more or less it was THEIR decision. No one in either market is forced to support them. THE Tulsa oilers have fans outside the Tulsa city limits some in nw Arkansas maybe they should change their name to reflect that. I doubt they will and shouldn't unless they move to another city and even then the owners will make the decision even if they ask for fan input.
@@NatalieBratton I have a brother on the radio down there and my Daughter-in-law works for Devon energy even though she lives up here they just happen to buy out her company and she was lucky enough to stay on with them. Truly I have no problems with OKC you have had some better Mayors than we have had and it is a very beautiful city
I grew up in Tulsa and regularly visit because of family, now live in Phoenix. I will tell you Tulsa is no longer the gold star town in Oklahoma...OKC has taken that spot which is a little shocking since growing up in Tulsa, we constantly made fun of OKC as being a town of hicks, cowboys shit kickers and basically a huge truck stop....but I have to say if I had to pick between the two I'd pick OKC, more going on there, sadly Tulsa has gone completely downhill...too many gangs, too many people speaking Spanish...crime, bad roads...just sucks! Seriously I have to speak more Spanish in Tulsa than in Phoenix!!
As someone originally from Edmond, I find that a surprising assumption about OKC 😆 tbf, I’m also younger, and only know what I’ve experienced (I thought it had more of like an urban-youthful-trendy kind of vibe). One of my professors from Tulsa also had a very noticeable southern accent, which doesn’t really seem very prevalent in OKC. But perhaps that was just her, idk. However, it does seem like it has a lot of industrial stuff, particularly on the south side, I think? I didn’t know a ton about Tulsa, but assumed it was basically kind of the same as OKC. I can’t recall being there except driving past a few times, and I think making one stop around there for gas on a road trip really late at night. However, I did (and still do) want to see some more of it. Especially as of late (hence why I watched this video lol). I’m doing preliminary research into places I may consider moving someday. Tulsa seemed like a cool, historical kind of city. But also seemed like it may be stagnant and a little run down in some places. But it’s hard to say, not having visited really. If Tulsa was growing a lot more, didn’t have as much of a violence problem, etc. It could definitely be a lot better, as I understand it.
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Tulsa All the way I'm moving to Tulsa in 2022
Thank you we've decided tulsa is where we will move! Very excited if we can find a safe starter apartment.
Something else to know is that much of the Tulsa area is part of the Muscogee Nation. There are jurisdictional matters that may or may not apply to you if you move here.
I have been debating which city to retire to, with a 60k pension and family of 4. How is the weather? I am torn.
Varies day to day. All 4 seasons here.
@@NatalieBratton so long as I don't freeze to death like in New Yorkistan.
I grew up in okc and have lived in Tulsa for 8 years. You hit the nail on the head with this one.
Tulsa is very cosmopolitan while OKC is a big cow town!
At least it definitely started out that way. OKC has been working on being a bit more cosmopolitan over the years.
@NatalieBratton some tulsans still living in the past.
You really hit on the key points. I have a way better idea of what the differences are. Excellent video!!!
I envy ok city because 100 miles away is the greatest city in Oklahoma, Tulsa. : )
Ha! :)
Any idea which city has more restaurants or more restaurants per capita? We eat out pretty much every day, so we need an area that has lots to choose from as far as restaurants go.
OKC just because it's bigger. Plenty of choices in both cities. Eating out will not be a problem here.
Choose Tulsa
Tulsa is better.
@@EDub513 Where.
Tulsa has more Latino food trucks per parking lots then Oklahoma city. LOL
Are you sure about that? We have some great ones in OKC.
Depends. Well into the west side of town OKC is flatter but east to central OKC is more hilly and nice. That also describes Tulsa to a significant degree. It depends on what part of town in which you happen to be. Both are nice, clean and attractive cities.
Tulsa is just under a half million people.
Metro is 1.1M for Tulsa, OKC is 1.45M
@@davidlaney6153 whaat about the county and the city of Tulsa population
actually Tulsa MSA is roughly 1.2M with OKC MSA 1.6M although both are growing only 1-1.5% nothing close to the double digit growth of most Texas cities have been growing...Texas is sucking in all good jobs for the region...
Oklahoma city is closing in on 700,000 residents if not already there.
The issue lost in your population density argument is that OKCs large area includes significant watershed that’s unliveable. The urban area of OKC compares favorably to Tulsa and other cities in reality although I’d agree that Tulsa has MORE density areas than OKC (which has way more suburban areas). OKC metro area (which you didn’t mention) is also 50% larger in population than Tulsa by city or metro. Therefore, the reality is OKC is bigger by far, which is also why we call OKC “the city”.
I'd say the reason we win out in density is because it's large geographically. Of course it will vary around town, but I can't break it down neighborhood to neighborhood. I'm giving a general overview.
And I agree OKC is bigger by far.
What do you think outsiders should know about OKC?
Outsiders should know it gets really cold and windy during winter
@@jackmeoff8428 Yes, but 2 days later it will be sunny and 55 degrees. ;)
I lived in OKC during the first oil boom late 70' s to Dec 1981 ....to me it was a dirty oil cow town.....I was coming from Dallas though. Yeah Tulsa was LOTS nicer.....Then i went to OSU in 84 to 87 still Tulsa was the nicer of the 2 and we would goto Tulsa before OKC.....but we could not pick up but on Tulsa tv station but got all of OKC's .....I never saw much to OKC we would ride around the lakes on my motorcycle back then.I had a Honda 550 four and a Yamaha trail bike. It looks nice (OKC) but still the weather would keep me away.
I have a friend who has tried to talk me into moving to Tulsa for 20 years......but I like Tempe AZ ....no cold, no tornado's , no floods....its great for retired people.
I live in Phoenix...they have Monsoons (heat thunderstorms with lots of rain) and occassionally they have tornados, but people call them "microbursts", one reporter called a tornado a landspout...I was just laughing my ass off...Phoenix is no longer cheap place to retire...
@@davidlaney6153 I was born In AZ went to Mcclintock high in Tempe ....and moved way from AZ a few times in my life....
lived in Dallas area.....Houston......OKC....Stillwater....and Toronto CA for almost 6 years....
Here is shocker.....there is no place cheap to retire anymore.....unless you want to move to a Ghetto like Houston... It use to be OK 40 years ago....now its a dump. I was in Austin in June.....its turned into CA with home prices have gone up 2x or more in a few years.....crazy.
I had bought 3 condo's in North Scottsdale in late 2001 that were all repo's from Wells Fargo and leased out for "golf vacations" at Kierlands....when I sold them in Aug 06.....I sold all three and retired at 50.....
Some years you get some good rains ....then 3 years of almost zero.
This was definitely helpful, but what city is more friendly, traffic, who has better school districts, is one city more liberal than the other, which is more blue collar ? Any unbiased opinion want to weigh in here?
The answers you get will depend on who you ask for sure. I would say both are friendly, not sure on traffic, the school districts are very similar, and both have sections that are blue collar. Remember that OKC is geographically huge, so definitely has various neighborhoods of all price ranges and styles. OKC is probably a bit more liberal, but not by much. People in OKC think Tulsans are liberal, and Tulsans think OKC is liberal...;)
Thanks for the info!
As a Tulsan I never hated or disliked OKC. In fact I heard the opposite, that people from OKC hated Tulsans. I would hear that they thought we were stuck up or whatever, but I just always thought that we were pretty similar, the only difference being location. I did get indignant at the people who were divisive, but OKC is fine by me. I admit that I love being in Tulsa more, but I know that OKC appeals more to some and Tulsa more to others. That's just the nature of opinions.
But don't get me started on the Thunder. I still am upset at the fact that they expect the rest of the state, especially Tulsa, to support them while not giving us any respect by naming the team after the state or region like numerous other teams have. (In fact they weren't going to get a team without our dedicated support). Good on OKC for getting a team, but I have not and will not support them. (This is not a dig against the city or citizens, but the owner of the team).
Sorry for ranting.
Thanks for the message. We are pretty similar. That's what makes it weird and funny. Aren't most NBA teams named for the cities they are in? Portland, LA, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Milwaukee, Boston, Chicago...?
@@NatalieBratton Yes, but then there is the Utah Jazz. What I meant was that there are other teams from other sports like the NFL (New England Patriots, Arizona Cardinals), and MLB (Texas Rangers, Colorado Rockies, Arizona Diamondbacks). I would have been fine if we weren't practically expected to give the team money without being recognized. Oh well.
As far as the thunder people forget that the presentation to the NBA was that the team would have fans in Tulsa but also Wichita and part of north Texas. So that being the case why not the oklawich thunder or oklanortex thunder. No one in Tulsa invested financially in bringing to team over to okc from Seattle. The owners chose the name Tulsa was not disrespected.
@@dwightanderson8331 I think we have a different understanding of what disrespect means. Being used is disrespectful. The rest of the state was used by Clay Bennett to get something explicitly not for the rest of the state. Saying "This isn't even partly yours, but give me money so I can keep it," is disrespectful. This may be fine with other people but I don't care much for it. Not my city, not my team.
Regardless it seems by your comment that we both can agree that the Thunder needs the rest of the state and outlying areas of the state, but refuses to acknowledge us.
And as far as naming a team after a region goes I point you to the name New England Patriots. That encompasses quite a bit of area outside Foxborough.
Perhaps people in Enid should be mad or Lawton or Ponca city or Wichita,Kansas or Durant since their areas to were used as part of the team's potential fan base in their presentation to the NBA. Just because the Tulsa area was part of the conversation didn't mean the team had to be called the Oklahoma Thunder. Since the Kansas city chiefs have a fan base in Kansas and some in Oklahoma should they have been called something more Oklahoma or Kansas like? Since they are located in Missouri why shouldn't they be the Missouri chiefs instead? Simple the owners named it after the city it's in nothing more or less it was THEIR decision. No one in either market is forced to support them. THE Tulsa oilers have fans outside the Tulsa city limits some in nw Arkansas maybe they should change their name to reflect that. I doubt they will and shouldn't unless they move to another city and even then the owners will make the decision even if they ask for fan input.
Your right Many native Tulsans do not like OKC we are Jealous
Tulsa is beautiful. Love to spend the weekend there.
@@NatalieBratton I have a brother on the radio down there and my Daughter-in-law works for Devon energy even though she lives up here they just happen to buy out her company and she was lucky enough to stay on with them. Truly I have no problems with OKC you have had some better Mayors than we have had and it is a very beautiful city
400,000 is just under a million? Come on.
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I grew up in Tulsa and regularly visit because of family, now live in Phoenix. I will tell you Tulsa is no longer the gold star town in Oklahoma...OKC has taken that spot which is a little shocking since growing up in Tulsa, we constantly made fun of OKC as being a town of hicks, cowboys shit kickers and basically a huge truck stop....but I have to say if I had to pick between the two I'd pick OKC, more going on there, sadly Tulsa has gone completely downhill...too many gangs, too many people speaking Spanish...crime, bad roads...just sucks! Seriously I have to speak more Spanish in Tulsa than in Phoenix!!
As someone originally from Edmond, I find that a surprising assumption about OKC 😆 tbf, I’m also younger, and only know what I’ve experienced (I thought it had more of like an urban-youthful-trendy kind of vibe). One of my professors from Tulsa also had a very noticeable southern accent, which doesn’t really seem very prevalent in OKC. But perhaps that was just her, idk.
However, it does seem like it has a lot of industrial stuff, particularly on the south side, I think?
I didn’t know a ton about Tulsa, but assumed it was basically kind of the same as OKC. I can’t recall being there except driving past a few times, and I think making one stop around there for gas on a road trip really late at night.
However, I did (and still do) want to see some more of it. Especially as of late (hence why I watched this video lol). I’m doing preliminary research into places I may consider moving someday. Tulsa seemed like a cool, historical kind of city. But also seemed like it may be stagnant and a little run down in some places. But it’s hard to say, not having visited really. If Tulsa was growing a lot more, didn’t have as much of a violence problem, etc. It could definitely be a lot better, as I understand it.