In September, I had the opportunity of riding the World Raid 2023 for three days in the Lake District, fitted with hard panniers. Travelling to and from on the Motorways at progressive speeds there was little if any unpleasant vibrations. For about 90 minutes on the M6 the heavens opened and at times, torrential, the screen and the wide tanks afforded great protection. Travelled over the so called “terrifying” passes without any drama. I had the original 700 in 2019 and was disappointed but the upgrades Yamaha have included in line with the price increase have made this bike so much better. Said this many times before, amazed the manufacturer hasn’t made available as an optional extra, tubeless tyred wheels. I was impressed with the bike, especially the improved seat. The only TRUTH you NEED to hear are your own opinions AFTER riding any bike. Don’t be fooled by the amateur experts, get a leg across and ride.
You are comparing the world raid to this older standard T7. I am in agreement with you, the new models including the world raid are worlds apart, hugely improved machines. Although why Yamaha don’t listen to what the customers want is beyond me…. Where is the damn cruise control?!
@@ontheroadadventure ..Indeed, I am comparing the old with the upgraded. The attraction for many is the lack of electronic gadgets, Yamaha set out their stall to sell a conventional motorcycle, keep the price competitive and it worked. With the World Raid for instance it is far easier to disable the ABS which for me is a bonus. When I begin to rely on electronic widgets to arrive safely, I’ll hang up my boots. That is just my view / preference on the subject after exactly 60 years of motorcycling and some of that time as a professional together with the refreshers and reviews that went with it. The 2023 Yamahondukisakis for instance will I doubt ever reach classic status, the cost of replacing the various gizmos as they fail will not be cost effective, if indeed the parts will be available. Yamaha with the Tenere 700 may, just may be able to last that bit longer. The sad part of Tenere 700 ownership however is the total inability to arrive at the Greasy Spoon cafe and elaborate on how much your bike has cost! Best just to take a picture of the full English and spend your time in silence sending it to the rest of the group at the same table on their…you’ve guessed it…electronic gadget.
@@andycapp8843 Sounds like you have found the machine for you 👍 Enjoy it, it doesn’t matter what others think of your machine provided you love it. Il leave the GS for later years too lol
One property I like about riding adventure bikes on paved road is it's visibility. The height and up-straight sitting position definitely make it more visible on the roads. Yeah, at the price of wind resistance and lower speed. But for me it's worth it.
If you don't plan to ever use the T7 offroad, there are many better bikes out there. Same goes for pure offroad riders, many lighter bikes better suited for offroad. That said, T7 fits my needs perfectly as I like to be able to reach places a typical touring bike won't let me. Not super technical stuff, but normal offroad tracks really make the bike shine. People that don't ever take the T7 offroad are missing the fun T7 can offer.
im really struggling to find something but i am picky, transalp looks ugly to me, gs too big, tenere too off road focused, naked bikes not enough luggage room, and things like the tracer seem to weighty to commute on daily and enjoy it on the roads i take
@@SDrizzy Get a Multistrada V4S. Once you're on it, it doesn't feel heavy or big anymore. You really have 3 different bikes and you can switch from one to the other with just two fingers, and this while driving. And in sport mode, with firm suspension, which you can set and memorize, it's really a race bike but with a comfortable sitting position.
What "better bikes"? Because if you're a lanky git like me and want something tall, but without the weight and err, demanding nature of a big (1000+cc) engine, then you're kinda stuck with a KTM. Yes I know the Africa twin 1100 engine isn't going to be as aggressive as my RC8R, but it seems only KTM are making tall, light and narrow bikes with great brakes and chassis. The Japanese are content to recycle the Transalp and Tenere formulas that pretend to be off road yet compromise road with tubed tyres and a chassis that will inevitably see no more off roading than a gravel driveway!
I’m from the UK, It’s an Adventure bike, A little vibration is how it is…My Dad was import Manager for Triumph and Yamaha since the 70s, I’ll give you credit, Yamaha’s realibility
I use my t7 as an alrounder, I commute everyday to work ,I tour with my wife as pillion and I also use it at weekends ,for the green lanes around Derbyshire dales, its all I'd ever want in a bike . And it's proving to be bomb proof .
It’s a Yamaha! Reliability is not something you need to worry about 👍 does your wife find it comfortable on the back? Not much of a pillion seat on them?
@@dillonrobinson8468 yes absolutely, There’s no one right bike for everyone. All motorcycle reviews are just one persons opinion, I always say the best thing to do is to go and ride a bike yourself and try it out. Out of curiosity have you tried the world raid one? Yamaha Tenere World Raid Review 2023 ruclips.net/video/4XFTBfWWn-Y/видео.html
@ontheroadadventure yeah mate . It had far better suspension on the woops . But after some consideration only on the price I went with the standard. I'm 51 now my motor cross days are done lol .
@@dillonrobinson8468 I also found that the world raid was allot taller which made it only just ridable for me! I talk about the price point in the video and came to the same conclusion that it’s now become a premium priced bike and that puts it against much tougher competition
I've just got back from a trip upto and around Scotland around 1800 miles in 8 days, and the T7 was fantastic. I have zero vibrations on mine, but I have the standard bar weights. Some people who have aftermarket heated grips or Barkbusters remove those weights which may be where the vibration problems arise. Admittedly I don't particularly enjoy long periods on the motorway, the engine has ample power for it, but the wind noise does get a bit much. I prefer to travel "cross country" on A roads, this is where the T7 really excels.
I'm not sure why you had those vibrations.. To answer your question if you can get away with using a T7 for a daily city/countryside bike the answer is a big fun YES! I've daily ridden mine in Los Angeles for the past year and have 0 issues with it as a fun city bike, and it rips in the canyon twisties with the Scorpion STR tires, has 0 issues keeping up with various street focused 17" bikes. Once the bike is dialed in with a proper suspension to rider, ecu flash, exhaust system it makes for a killer 700 street bike with upright size.
Já tive muitas motas e está comparada com as outras tem as suas vantagens e desvantagens. Eu tentei arranjar defeitos e é quase impossível. Em relação ás vibrações como antes tinha uma ktm sfx 450 nesta nem sinto vibração.dizes muitas vezes ouvi dizer isso é tudo suposições. O que interessa é a nossa opinião.
It is possible to lower the Tenere using suspension links and also adapt the seat, the tracer is an amazing bike too though, I had the tracer 900 and absolutely loved it, one of my favourite bikes yet
I did find some of the TET when I had a crf250 and that was loads of fun! I wasn’t expecting vibrations on the t7, to give it a fair test I may try to find another one and see if it was that particular bike
All are good bikes, although you’ll find the T7 has less power than the others mentioned. Ask yourself firstly where will you be riding…. On road or off road? If you plan to do lots of off roading then the t7 is the one for you, if you want on road comfort then the GS is top of the pile… Have you considered something in the middle of these? I just did a review of the KTM 890 adventure on the channel, have a look at that one and tell me what you think…
GS1250 and T7? Totally different bikes, completely different use cases. If u want to tour and stay on asphalt get the GS, very good Toured. If you want to go of road the T7, butt not as a first of road bike. For that it is much to heavy. To learn buy a Honda crf 300rally. Can tour, but not in style, but very good to learn offroad.
Thanks for starting out with your hight. Many many re guys need to start that way. 5’8” with 29” inside leg, so I’m goin to try one wit a 19” front wheel. Great vid bud.❤❤🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🏍️🏍️
Not sure where the vibration is coming from. I’ve had mine for nearly a year and I’ve really not noticed anything, I’ve moved from a GS 1200 and I’m very happy.......
It seems short sighted to ride one bike and decide the vibration is too much for you (and suggesting you have the only truth), when it is not a noted problem in any other review. Surely you would question something about that bike? It is a well known issue that Pirelli have poor quality control on the STR tires and many T7 riders have had their tires replaced due to vibration at speed. Can you tell the difference between engine vibration and tire vibration? You should try some other T7s to see if it is your sensitivity to vibration or just that bike.
You are absolutely right, and that’s exactly what I did, there’s another video on the world raid T7 and indeed the vibrations were gone. This bike was a used example and I think something was up on it
If you don't plan to do much Of road, get yourself a more Road oriented bike. T7 is great when u go of road and tour. I love mine very much, but I do 50% offroad.
100% agree, why buy an adventure bike that is designed for off road riding if you never go off road? It just doesn’t make sense, you are talking a huge compromise for no benefit. I may end up buying aT7 but I would be buying it for its off road capabilities not for the road capabilities as there are plenty of road ordinated bikes to choose from
I have a 2024 Tenere 700 and ride about 80% off road. Arizona 🌵🤠👍🏼desert riding. This bike stock is good but I have done some upgrades specific to my needs. I have no complaints other than it is very top heavy and dropping it is a real pain to get back up.
And how would you define “touring.”? What is the difference between touring and exploring when travelling? A friend of mine is planning a trip on a single cylinder 125cc over many months, throughout Europe, Norway and wherever his thoughts take him? Many tour…..two weeks, two up, on a GoldWing, GS, RT etc., is this the favoured bike for “touring”, certainly is for those riders. To submit a 12 word, incredibly basic response on a complex topic such as this indicates very little thought has gone before pressing the keys. For many, such a basic bike is of little interest to those who rely for instance on electronic gadgets to arrive at their destination safely. For one up exploratory tours, this 700 cc machine from Yamahahaha fits the bill for so many as supported by the volume sales it has achieved. No one bike is perfect, it never has been and never will but for many, their chosen steed may very well be the exception.
Surely if you mostly gonna ride on road there are better options,but if you are a bit tall 6'2 (1,88cm) what's is preferable to do?take a bike that you won't fit like tracer 7 or a bike like tenere 700 that you fit but the use of the bike is mostly on road?nice video.
I’m a big fan of the tracer 900, fantastic bike that’s fits well, however useless on even light off road. We do lots of long distance tours and so will inevitably find some rough stuff
@On the road yes tracer 900 is better for taller riders (not that beginnerfriendly),but the motorcycle I am thinking to buy gonna be my first though ( I will ride two up most of the times )so I'm a bit confused as you see :)
I test rode Tracer 7, 9 and T7 back to back. Bought the T7, got the suspension set up for me, put on a Touratech standard seat and never regreted it. I blast around the Black Forrest on mine (never went offroad) with my friends who ride MV Agustas and 1000cc SBKs. XD
Had mine a year and with the suspension done for your weight it rides fantastic. I’ve had no vibrations from mine. Only problem I have is the really uncomfortable seat.
Which one do you have the Standard T7? Do you use yours for any long distance touring? I have a review on the World Raid tenere 700 which i found to be a much better bike than the T7 i rode in this video
@@ontheroadadventure yes I have the standard 22 model. Done a few thousand miles now, 1 tour and its fine. Had the seat altered and it’s really nice over long distance as long as you stay under 90mph. Over that and I suffer bad wind noise. I’ve come from sports bikes and tried a few other adventure bikes before settling on this. Really happy with it.
@@Wanobi99 Yes I’d definitely say the world raid is more comfortable and suited to long distance provided you have the height! Did you think the Touareg had enough power?
I've owned this bike for 4 years and am appalled at how you ride it! CHANGE GEAR and you will see it is as smooth as butter. This bike can accelerate from 30mph to 100+mph without problem in 6th gear! Of course it is Jerky at 30mph when you are still in 2nd gear ffs. It is a torque monster...short shift and learn to love it.
Amazing, New Bike day tomorrow! The Tenere 700 is a great bike, are you planning to take it touring or know of any off road places locally you can use it?
@@ontheroadadventureHi, yes, miles of unmade roads in Devon, so light of road for the T700 (use a KTM 400EXC for serious stuf) and touring, going to try and go ultra light, sick of lugging way to much gear with me. Cheers, Rob
@@mytube2959 Check out our review of the LOMO bags, these waterproof crash bar bags are ideal, they do panniers and stuff too. All light weight and no scaffolding needed like hard cases. Just the job for the T7 Lomo Crash Bar Dry Bags Review - YOU need these! ruclips.net/video/HnB0sjmvvrc/видео.html
For the price and reliability of these bikes compared to others in my opinion you just can’t go wrong, if you want speed then go by a sports bike it really pisses me off when people spout off about speed on some adv’s. If you don’t like a 700 then go pay 25k for a gs. We all do our research before we by a bike and most will modify at some point.
Your comment brings about my overall point. If you want value for money, a basic no nonsense machine that’s reliable and cheap, you can go for the OG of this category the Honda Transalp for example at a fraction of the cost of the T7 which is no longer priced as a bargain new
It is a GREAT bike. It is heavy and crashes really hard. And yes the muffler does get bent in and needs to be pulled out before riding off so it doesn't cut a groove in the swingarm. And due to its weight, it really could benefit from traction control - think about piloting the thing up a steep rutted wet grassy road with a lot of clay in it, with water bars that need to be jumped. I enjoyed mine, but wouldn't buy another. Went back to a dual-purpose bike (EXC350F). But for paved road use and maintained logging roads, etc, it is pretty fantastic.
I have a 2023 T7 (US market, so we didn’t get the new bits). I love it. For my riding right now, it fits my needs almost perfectly. I’m on gravel, dirt, or two track about every time I take it out. With that said however, if I were going to spend the majority of my time on asphalt I’d probably have the Triumph Tiger 900 rally pro. As for the vibration, that is unusual. I’ve never experienced that with the cp2. I do get wind buffeting though, where you didn’t. I’m 6’1” and the windscreen seems to move the airflow right to my face…lol. So I need to address that.
Your lucky to have so much dirt to ride there! I’m not as tall so not wind issues for me. I currently have the tiger 900 gt pro, but want something a little more adventure focused for future tours, I was disappointed with the t7 I rode, you think I just had a bad one?
@@ontheroadadventure I’m no expert, but I would have to say yes. You had a bad bike. I think possibly that bike had tire or wheel issues? Hard to say. I just know mine is incredibly smooth and has tons of low end torque. I don’t think I would rule out the T7 without trying another one.
@@ontheroadadventure US market we only have the one choice. It’s the base model. We didn’t even get the updated display or led signals for 2023. I would have liked the updated ABS, led turn signals (the ones we get here in the states are hideous), and cruise control, but we don’t have that option unfortunately.
@@DirtbikeXpeditions Oh that really sucks. It does bring me back to my point though, if it’s a basic no nonsense bike that’s wanted why not by a old Transalp or v Strom etc at 3k instead of the t7 at 10k? Not critiquing just curious really, I think there’s a good argument for both?
I had a DRZ400E(Too slow), then an MT09SP (Too fast), took a Harley Sportster S for a test ride (too hard to hold on, a lot of vibrations, no suspenstion) - but maybe a T7 can fullfil my needs for occassional 300 klm round trips on the freeway, traffic riding and weekend trail rides....@@ontheroadadventure
I’ve bought 2 bikes from Bridge. Great dealership. Always helpful, happy & professional. Going to test ride a world raid next week as I’m looking to change my CRF1100. I love the CRF in every way except for the tech. It’s my 1st bike with tech & I’m not a fan. Great video & review, thank you.
Yes absolutely, I personally went for the Africa twin after this bike as it makes a better touring machine. If I had opportunity to do more off road I would consider this again
When you'll test it, enter user mode, set power to max, Engine breake to 1/2, Traction to minimum and ABS as you wish. It will blow your mind. After my test ride I ordered it. No more words to say.
@@ontheroadadventure the only reason I believe is that I paid deposit to get one ordered and that’s the reason I have a chance now to test it. I’m more KTM and Yamaha guy but want something more Turing friendly and light weight so we will see how this will work out after the road test
@@BBartyFly I took the new 890 adventure out for a test, that one is high on my list, only a few small complaints, but I want something with character this time, not too sensible, I wanna have fun AND tour
The new transalp must surely be a better machine for this type of use in the UK. I'm an offroader but bought the T7 for traveling around multi-day trips 500km or less from home. I live where we have all long perfectly straight highway 140km/h, for hours on end to get to fun stuff in the mountain backcountry. I find the T7 excruciating for that type of highway travel, but tolerable for one day here and there. Once I get to the dirt though, it's in it's element and I can stand up, move around and loosen up the seized up back from all those highway miles, and ride on. After owning this and an Africa twin, along with dozens of mx and enduro bikes, I can't imagine why anyone would buy a T7 if they only ride pavement, since the bike really excels off road more than anywhere else. I've ridden the Africa Twin for 12+ hour hard riding for days on end on the highways across country and it's a beast for that kind of travel. I wouldn't dream of doing that on the T7, but I'm much more effective on it offroad which means I don't turn back when I see that quad trail leading down toward a lake, or a sketchy jeep track leading up the mountain. The Transalp seems like it should narrow the gap between the highway comfort of the africa twin, and the lighter weight ease of handling off road of the T7. I might pick one up if I come across one at the right time. Anything else on the market has too little reliability to bother with as a solo long distance/remote back country traveler from what I've seen out there on the sides of the forestry roads lol.
You are absolutely spot on, which is why both Ewa and I now tour on Africa Twins! We love them for the long tours we do and they are doing fantastic on the current moto camping tour in Spain and Portugal, Id love to have a T7 in portugal for example where theres loads of trails to ride but in the uk theres very little
@@jetmuchacho It’s a whole different world to what we are used to, your welcome to join us here… bring a sense of humour, you’ll need it 👍👍⛺️⛺️⛺️ Enough is enough, We are leaving for Europe Motocamping tour ruclips.net/video/KZp1B3Nr2-o/видео.html
Im 1,70cm, 70kg and my legs are 78cm long, am i to small ?😢 I sat once on her but without riding boots. I would drive like 65% street and 35% Offroad tracks, but no enduro hardcore stuff
It is for sure possible for you to ride the Tenere 700 - The world raid is taller so will be a struggle but you can pick up a standard T7. There are options of lowering kits and lower seats etc too if you need it. Have you considered a triumph scrambler for your needs? check out my review on that one, may be more suitable perhaps?
I have to say i was surprised to find that, its not something i had heard about. Do you think it could of been the tyres? Perhaps i should find another T7 to try to give it a fair chance....
Great video mate. I’ve ordered one, without test riding, which is a bit stupid. I’m sat in central Germany and do use the TET in various surrounding countries but this involves big road miles then long off road sections, so an ADV does fit my needs. That said it’s primarily use will be year round commuting. Reliability is top of my shopping list. Because I’m crap at off road riding I need every advantage I can get, so the T7 was a natural choice. I will just have to live with its niggles that you identified. Again, it’s refreshing to see an honest, real world review. Stay safe.👍🏼
@@GreenString Thanks bud, I always want to give a real opinion as opposed to a paid press review. The T7 is not a bad bike by any margin, I think you’ll enjoy it
@@GreenString dont pay any attention to this crap i have bought the world raid last year , i have ownd bmw gs , triumph tigers etc and this is an awesome bike . you will love it on and of road , you have too own a bike before judging it , not a 20 min test ride , enjoy your t7 ,
@@bertyboy7126 Well I know what you mean mate. I tend to get attached to my bikes. Put on 110,000 km on my GS and still love it. If I had listened to all the negativity about the bike I probably would have never got one. Thanks for the heads up on the Tenere. Stay safe.👍🏼
Great review. The aero demo with your glove is a great way to illustrate the effectivness of the screen. This is the 1st review I've seen that mentions the bad vibrations, as someone who suffers from bad circulation and numbness this is a major issue for me so thanks for highlighting that. Its definitely something I`ll have to look out for on the test ride before I buy.
Thanks the glove thing seems to be simple and effective, I think a visual demonstration is better than saying my opinion where possible. Did you see my review of the Tenere 700 world raid? That one had much less vibration than this one I rode. However I decided against the T7 and took the Africa twin… in this video il tell you why and compare to other similar bikes…. Hope it’s helpful for you ruclips.net/video/haBidtIakog/видео.htmlsi=ZfxythOueDXzZpBb
This test completely misses the point of a tenere, if I had the time I would show you what a tenere can REALLY do but, I’m out having to much fun on it I can say it is one of THE best bikes I have ever ridden , it’s not the best on road, it’s not the best off road but what it does is better than ANYTHING else buy a country mile!! Nothing will touch it for it’s road manners it’s unbelievable off road handling(and I rag the hell out it) it’s build quality and THAT F***ING ENGINE!!! Wow it pulls for days and is stone reliable bombproof (unlike all my KTM’s) and is always eager to start the next day with half a push off the button, what a bike!!!
I do agree, These are fantastic bikes, reliable all rounders with the CP2 engine it’s a winner. However for me, in my opinion they are now above their price point. Yamaha need to make a proper touring variant of this with Cruise control and I would be in
The T7 is a great bike, in my opinion, but you can really enjoy its off road capabilities only If you're tall or if you handle off road like Gaston Rahier (2 times 1m67 tall rally dakar winner on a motorcycle). I loved it, very fun to drive. But being vertically challenged (5f7), I did not enjoy it on bad gravel roads.... so I sold it. And then I missed it. An then I tried the Ducati Multistrada V4. And wow! It's heavier, but with the seat on its lower position, I can flat foot. So it doesn't feel heavier than the T7, and in its sport mode, with the firmer suspension setting, it's almost like a race bike. And on it's 'enduro mode that helps off road incapable people like me feel capable', it's as fun as the T7, but with better brakes. And unlike a sports bike, you can drive relaxed in case there are speed limitations. So now I'm broke, but I'm driving a Multistrada (and I have to work extra hours to pay the extra fuel consumption, but left aside the price and the fuel consumption, it is an exceptional bike)
Did the overland trip to Cambodia in the early 2000s on a honda dominator, the perfect rtw bike. Since then nothing better has arrived, but I'm off on a full rtw and the choice is between this and the crf300 rally.
I think the africa twin is the best bike for you guys it like a refined tenere but heavier.. The tenere was a no frills do it all bike very reliable. All bikes are good . Like the man said you have to get out on them a lovely bike left in the garage is a waste.
We couldn’t agree more. It’s amazing how many people will spend 15-20k on the latest bike and let it collect dust in the garage. We want to see 100k miles on our twins within 5 years
Yamaha’s T700 seems to a threat to some people or this is just a bit of clic bait for the T7 punters , if you don’t want a adventure bike don’t buy one , buy a trail bike or a road bike.
Each to their own… I’m not saying this is a bad bike, just that there are many many other options. If I needed such a basic bike, why not have a old transalp??
@@ontheroadadventure yea mate , I hear you .. but old transalp equals old motor , old suspension, , old bush’s , old bearings , old o-rings , old seals ect …. and they were heavy to start with .. same with any old bike especially a adventure bike .
@@queenslander954 It all depends what you want to use it for, I wouldn’t want a new bike to do heavy off roading, seems a waste to destroy so early on in its life! We don’t have such places in our area though to ride much off road sadly
A whole new world of comfort for you now then! Where in the world are you? Have you got much off road around you? In the south west of the uk there is very little we are aloud to ride
Buy a goldwing Tenere is the best choice for adventure riding. If you think the Tenere has a snappy throttle, drive an old single cylinder with flatsides😂
Yes perfect for your location, wish we had more dirt we are allowed to ride here in the uk. I found the world raid was a huge improvement too but definitely taller!
new transalp...better wind protection,lower seat high,comfier,nicer for commuting,much more power,more fuel economy,(easy off road capability,better weight balanced,better for pillion.so,the looks its a little dull yes,but,which modern bike is beautifull,specially in adventure category?so ,if you want to fool yourself that you are a hardcore adventure biker,or just for the looks,buy the tenere
Trouble with the new Transalp is the cost, by the time you have added the stuff you need to it you are in Africa twin territory so why not just buy that in the first place?
you mean to ad full adjastable suspension and skid plate?and handguards.tubeless is the 24 model.i dont know.and again it is not gonna be an africa.but,the difference in price in my country is 5k.lot of money.my comparison was with the tenere.the topic of your video.how overrated tenere is....@@ontheroadadventure
@@thodoris3790 I considered the Transalp but I knew I’d have to add on centre stand, heated grips, luggage, etc which put me at the same money as a Africa twin a year old so went for that one. Both are amazing machines for sure
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I shopped around for a long while. Wanting a bike that could do a little bit of everything. T7 and maybe a Desert X were the price ranges i was interested in, Africa Twin was appealing too. But after much research. I put a deposit on a new Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer. About $8000 over a Desert X in my economy. Fact is, by the time you put crash bars and heated grips and seat and adjustable windshield on a T7. Youre looking at a serious price tag well beyond $20,000. And youre still lacking all the technology of the Tiger. Quick shifter is aftermarket, Half the power. A less then adequate suspension with minimal adjustability. A terribly uncomfortable seat. No passenger accomodations unless you want the person sitting in total discomfort. The tubed wheels. So on and so forth. So i figured this will be a bike i own for the next 10 years minimum. Do i want this T7 for $15,000. With no accessories. A bike thats going to need money dumped into it to really get what i want, itll never have the highway power, or the cruise control. Or do i spend $29,000 and get the bike that has LITERALLY EVERYTHING, Even way longer maintenance intervals. Its a no brainer. Take on a bit of a bigger payment and enjoy the next 10+ years without compromise.
Bikes are so expensive now, but I do partially agree with you. The only problem is how quickly tech becomes redundant…. I mean will there still be software updates for our bikes in ten years or will they look like Nokia 3210 phones by then? This is why I compared the T7 to a old Transalp, similar tech at a fraction of the cost
Misleading title…. What’s the f.. truth that you promise in the title? This video is a long monologue without real content. Sorry mate but there are plenty viddaos about this bike and your video has no content. You can do better
I test rode more T7’s after this one and the vibes were no longer a problem, I do believe something was not quite right with the one I rode in this review, I have ridden other models such as the world raid too on the channel. Which model are you getting? Does the lack of cruise control bother you?
@@ontheroadadventure I’m getting the latest gen base model blue and gold with the new tft dash. The lack of cruise control doesn’t really bother me because all the bikes I’ve owned never had it, so I’m pretty use to it. I purchase motorcycles and put little mileage on them then turn around and sell them with my end goal being a GS or Tiger to eventually get the creature comforts and the ability for extended touring.
I think there is no point bying this bike for road turing mainly. Center of gravity is high and 2 cylinder engine not great. I would go 4 cylinder, smaller tires, something like Versys 1000, much nicer experiance.
You basically said everything that everybody has been saying for the last two years, just a thought, don't go for a test ride after it rains, so you could flog it a bit more. Wait--it always rains there😂😂😁
I use mine primarily for off-road use. Check out my channel. I live in Florida. I haven’t taken it to the mountains yet but have taken it over so many different terrains. I have the 2022. I installed the Camal ADV brake fix and the Camal ADV ANTI BOBBLE and lowering (20mm) rear suspension links. Love mine it’s taken me home every time.
Never ever heard so much garbage talked about a motorcycle that is loved by so many people , the t7 is possibly the best all round adv bike available, i disagree with just about evey thing this guy says .O no vibration and throttle not snatchy ,
Pleased to hear your loving yours, that’s all that really matters, all bikes are subjective and as you said above, you have to own one to have real long term experience with it. My video is just a quick opinion of the bike I rode
I have loads of vibration problems with mine. Working with the dealer to try to find the cause. Happens under load when moving, disappears when the clutch gets pulled in so it’s not tyres or wheels or chain like so many assume. Happens when at a stand still too. As soon as I hit 4000rpm it feels like a tractor. I loved my T7 until the vibration started.
@@rtwt7487 same here ! Do you have crash bar ? I think it maybe the problem my dealers just a dick so im close to 30 000 Still vibrating ! I just get numb hand specially the right one! my fz07 no shaking same engine but no crash bar thats why im asking
@@fz0716 yeah I’ve got crash bars on mine (outback motortek). The vibration didn’t happen when I first got the bike (put on the crash bars as soon as I got it). Recently the dealer took apart the clutch and rebuilt it (same parts) and the vibration changed quite a bit. Was very high frequency vibration and now it seems to have reduced in frequency but it’s still there. Says to me it could be a quality control issue on the build of the engine. I still love my bike and will never part with it but hope I can find the cause.
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In September, I had the opportunity of riding the World Raid 2023 for three days in the Lake District, fitted with hard panniers. Travelling to and from on the Motorways at progressive speeds there was little if any unpleasant vibrations. For about 90 minutes on the M6 the heavens opened and at times, torrential, the screen and the wide tanks afforded great protection. Travelled over the so called “terrifying” passes without any drama.
I had the original 700 in 2019 and was disappointed but the upgrades Yamaha have included in line with the price increase have made this bike so much better. Said this many times before, amazed the manufacturer hasn’t made available as an optional extra, tubeless tyred wheels.
I was impressed with the bike, especially the improved seat.
The only TRUTH you NEED to hear are your own opinions AFTER riding any bike. Don’t be fooled by the amateur experts, get a leg across and ride.
You are comparing the world raid to this older standard T7. I am in agreement with you, the new models including the world raid are worlds apart, hugely improved machines. Although why Yamaha don’t listen to what the customers want is beyond me…. Where is the damn cruise control?!
@@ontheroadadventure ..Indeed, I am comparing the old with the upgraded. The attraction for many is the lack of electronic gadgets, Yamaha set out their stall to sell a conventional motorcycle, keep the price competitive and it worked. With the World Raid for instance it is far easier to disable the ABS which for me is a bonus. When I begin to rely on electronic widgets to arrive safely, I’ll hang up my boots. That is just my view / preference on the subject after exactly 60 years of motorcycling and some of that time as a professional together with the refreshers and reviews that went with it.
The 2023 Yamahondukisakis for instance will I doubt ever reach classic status, the cost of replacing the various gizmos as they fail will not be cost effective, if indeed the parts will be available.
Yamaha with the Tenere 700 may, just may be able to last that bit longer.
The sad part of Tenere 700 ownership however is the total inability to arrive at the Greasy Spoon cafe and elaborate on how much your bike has cost! Best just to take a picture of the full English and spend your time in silence sending it to the rest of the group at the same table on their…you’ve guessed it…electronic gadget.
@@andycapp8843 Sounds like you have found the machine for you 👍 Enjoy it, it doesn’t matter what others think of your machine provided you love it. Il leave the GS for later years too lol
One property I like about riding adventure bikes on paved road is it's visibility. The height and up-straight sitting position definitely make it more visible on the roads. Yeah, at the price of wind resistance and lower speed. But for me it's worth it.
Absolutely Road presence and comfort are very important
If you don't plan to ever use the T7 offroad, there are many better bikes out there.
Same goes for pure offroad riders, many lighter bikes better suited for offroad.
That said, T7 fits my needs perfectly as I like to be able to reach places a typical touring bike won't let me. Not super technical stuff, but normal offroad tracks really make the bike shine.
People that don't ever take the T7 offroad are missing the fun T7 can offer.
Sounds like your getting the best from yours, enjoy it bud
im really struggling to find something but i am picky, transalp looks ugly to me, gs too big, tenere too off road focused, naked bikes not enough luggage room, and things like the tracer seem to weighty to commute on daily and enjoy it on the roads i take
@@SDrizzyget a tiger
@@SDrizzy Get a Multistrada V4S. Once you're on it, it doesn't feel heavy or big anymore. You really have 3 different bikes and you can switch from one to the other with just two fingers, and this while driving. And in sport mode, with firm suspension, which you can set and memorize, it's really a race bike but with a comfortable sitting position.
What "better bikes"?
Because if you're a lanky git like me and want something tall, but without the weight and err, demanding nature of a big (1000+cc) engine, then you're kinda stuck with a KTM.
Yes I know the Africa twin 1100 engine isn't going to be as aggressive as my RC8R, but it seems only KTM are making tall, light and narrow bikes with great brakes and chassis.
The Japanese are content to recycle the Transalp and Tenere formulas that pretend to be off road yet compromise road with tubed tyres and a chassis that will inevitably see no more off roading than a gravel driveway!
I’m from the UK, It’s an Adventure bike, A little vibration is how it is…My Dad was import Manager for Triumph and Yamaha since the 70s, I’ll give you credit, Yamaha’s realibility
Yamaha are No1 for reliability 👍
I use my t7 as an alrounder, I commute everyday to work ,I tour with my wife as pillion and I also use it at weekends ,for the green lanes around Derbyshire dales, its all I'd ever want in a bike . And it's proving to be bomb proof .
It’s a Yamaha! Reliability is not something you need to worry about 👍 does your wife find it comfortable on the back? Not much of a pillion seat on them?
@ontheroadadventure she's said its really comfortable. And we've done some miles pal ie 5 days solid riding. It's a case of , each to there own .
@@dillonrobinson8468 yes absolutely, There’s no one right bike for everyone. All motorcycle reviews are just one persons opinion, I always say the best thing to do is to go and ride a bike yourself and try it out. Out of curiosity have you tried the world raid one? Yamaha Tenere World Raid Review 2023
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@ontheroadadventure yeah mate . It had far better suspension on the woops . But after some consideration only on the price I went with the standard. I'm 51 now my motor cross days are done lol .
@@dillonrobinson8468 I also found that the world raid was allot taller which made it only just ridable for me! I talk about the price point in the video and came to the same conclusion that it’s now become a premium priced bike and that puts it against much tougher competition
I've just got back from a trip upto and around Scotland around 1800 miles in 8 days, and the T7 was fantastic. I have zero vibrations on mine, but I have the standard bar weights. Some people who have aftermarket heated grips or Barkbusters remove those weights which may be where the vibration problems arise. Admittedly I don't particularly enjoy long periods on the motorway, the engine has ample power for it, but the wind noise does get a bit much. I prefer to travel "cross country" on A roads, this is where the T7 really excels.
Agreed, we do all we can when touring to avoid motorway on any bike
Mine is smooth as a used bar of soap.
Mine is not vibby
lol I like that saying!
Maybe it’s because this one is brand new, some bikes lose the vibes once broken in
I'm not sure why you had those vibrations.. To answer your question if you can get away with using a T7 for a daily city/countryside bike the answer is a big fun YES! I've daily ridden mine in Los Angeles for the past year and have 0 issues with it as a fun city bike, and it rips in the canyon twisties with the Scorpion STR tires, has 0 issues keeping up with various street focused 17" bikes. Once the bike is dialed in with a proper suspension to rider, ecu flash, exhaust system it makes for a killer 700 street bike with upright size.
Sounds like your in love with yours, that is what I was expecting but not what I found unfortunately
@@ontheroadadventure I would give another one a try if you're still attracted to it!
@@whitneyrides I think il do that
I haven't noticed any vibration issues except when I had a tyre issue, using Michein Annachy adventure and fine
Having ridden another Tenere I think this one had a issue to cause the vibration 👍
Mine no vibration. Yes the T7 in geared to tall riders. I'm 6.2 and am barely flat footed at stop
Thanks for joining us on the channel 👍
Its a duelsport bike. So does both very well with correct tires. Just logged about 1500miles
Awesome, do you get to ride dirt with yours?
Já tive muitas motas e está comparada com as outras tem as suas vantagens e desvantagens. Eu tentei arranjar defeitos e é quase impossível. Em relação ás vibrações como antes tinha uma ktm sfx 450 nesta nem sinto vibração.dizes muitas vezes ouvi dizer isso é tudo suposições. O que interessa é a nossa opinião.
What issues have you had with the T7?
@@ontheroadadventure nenhum.
I'd love one but sadly I'm very short,so I got a tracer.A lowered tenere with no offload capabilities?
It is possible to lower the Tenere using suspension links and also adapt the seat, the tracer is an amazing bike too though, I had the tracer 900 and absolutely loved it, one of my favourite bikes yet
Is bridge the biggest yam dealer in the South West? I'm in bude
There’s marsh Yamaha now in Exeter marsh Barton just round the corner from bridge
Love the engine on this bike. Never had vibration issues. Living in Devon you are right next to the largest part of the TET in the uk.
I did find some of the TET when I had a crf250 and that was loads of fun! I wasn’t expecting vibrations on the t7, to give it a fair test I may try to find another one and see if it was that particular bike
Is this 5 or 6 speed
Iam plan to buy adventure bike Which is Best buy this tenere 700 or Bmw R1250 Gs or Africa twin your suggestions please🙏
All are good bikes, although you’ll find the T7 has less power than the others mentioned. Ask yourself firstly where will you be riding…. On road or off road? If you plan to do lots of off roading then the t7 is the one for you, if you want on road comfort then the GS is top of the pile… Have you considered something in the middle of these? I just did a review of the KTM 890 adventure on the channel, have a look at that one and tell me what you think…
GS1250 and T7? Totally different bikes, completely different use cases. If u want to tour and stay on asphalt get the GS, very good Toured. If you want to go of road the T7, butt not as a first of road bike. For that it is much to heavy. To learn buy a Honda crf 300rally. Can tour, but not in style, but very good to learn offroad.
All fair comments
Thanks for starting out with your hight.
Many many re guys need to start that way.
5’8” with 29” inside leg, so I’m goin to try one wit a 19” front wheel. Great vid bud.❤❤🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🏍️🏍️
You will be fine to ride the T7 bud 👍
Not sure where the vibration is coming from. I’ve had mine for nearly a year and I’ve really not noticed anything, I’ve moved from a GS 1200 and I’m very happy.......
It seems having ridden another but the new world raid version that they may have been something not quite right with the t7 I rode
It seems short sighted to ride one bike and decide the vibration is too much for you (and suggesting you have the only truth), when it is not a noted problem in any other review. Surely you would question something about that bike? It is a well known issue that Pirelli have poor quality control on the STR tires and many T7 riders have had their tires replaced due to vibration at speed. Can you tell the difference between engine vibration and tire vibration? You should try some other T7s to see if it is your sensitivity to vibration or just that bike.
You are absolutely right, and that’s exactly what I did, there’s another video on the world raid T7 and indeed the vibrations were gone. This bike was a used example and I think something was up on it
If you don't plan to do much Of road, get yourself a more Road oriented bike. T7 is great when u go of road and tour. I love mine very much, but I do 50% offroad.
Glad your enjoying your T7 if only there was more off Road opportunity where I am
100% agree, why buy an adventure bike that is designed for off road riding if you never go off road? It just doesn’t make sense, you are talking a huge compromise for no benefit. I may end up buying aT7 but I would be buying it for its off road capabilities not for the road capabilities as there are plenty of road ordinated bikes to choose from
I have a 2024 Tenere 700 and ride about 80% off road. Arizona 🌵🤠👍🏼desert riding. This bike stock is good but I have done some upgrades specific to my needs. I have no complaints other than it is very top heavy and dropping it is a real pain to get back up.
Wow I wish we had the chance to ride off road that much. There’s very little legal places in the uk to ride off road
If you want a touring bike then go buy a touring bike.
That’s exactly what we did 👍
The t7 is a true dual purpose machine.
And how would you define “touring.”? What is the difference between touring and exploring when travelling? A friend of mine is planning a trip on a single cylinder 125cc over many months, throughout Europe, Norway and wherever his thoughts take him?
Many tour…..two weeks, two up, on a GoldWing, GS, RT etc., is this the favoured bike for “touring”, certainly is for those riders.
To submit a 12 word, incredibly basic response on a complex topic such as this indicates very little thought has gone before pressing the keys. For many, such a basic bike is of little interest to those who rely for instance on electronic gadgets to arrive at their destination safely.
For one up exploratory tours, this 700 cc machine from Yamahahaha fits the bill for so many as supported by the volume sales it has achieved.
No one bike is perfect, it never has been and never will but for many, their chosen steed may very well be the exception.
Still looking for that unicorn 😂
What if touring on off road?
Surely if you mostly gonna ride on road there are better options,but if you are a bit tall 6'2 (1,88cm) what's is preferable to do?take a bike that you won't fit like tracer 7 or a bike like tenere 700 that you fit but the use of the bike is mostly on road?nice video.
I’m a big fan of the tracer 900, fantastic bike that’s fits well, however useless on even light off road. We do lots of long distance tours and so will inevitably find some rough stuff
@On the road yes tracer 900 is better for taller riders (not that beginnerfriendly),but the motorcycle I am thinking to buy gonna be my first though ( I will ride two up most of the times )so I'm a bit confused as you see :)
@@apz5817 Yes tracer 900 maybe a bit much for a first big bike. Have you considered big cruisers? Would be comfortable for your size and good two up
I test rode Tracer 7, 9 and T7 back to back. Bought the T7, got the suspension set up for me, put on a Touratech standard seat and never regreted it. I blast around the Black Forrest on mine (never went offroad) with my friends who ride MV Agustas and 1000cc SBKs. XD
If it's no good on the road how come mcn voted it best road bike?
That does Beg a question... It seems clear that if you are a road focused rider there are many better options than this Tenere? Wouldnt you agree?
Had mine a year and with the suspension done for your weight it rides fantastic. I’ve had no vibrations from mine. Only problem I have is the really uncomfortable seat.
Which one do you have the Standard T7? Do you use yours for any long distance touring? I have a review on the World Raid tenere 700 which i found to be a much better bike than the T7 i rode in this video
@@ontheroadadventure yes I have the standard 22 model. Done a few thousand miles now, 1 tour and its fine. Had the seat altered and it’s really nice over long distance as long as you stay under 90mph. Over that and I suffer bad wind noise. I’ve come from sports bikes and tried a few other adventure bikes before settling on this. Really happy with it.
@@pudsboi5203 Awesome, glad your loving your bike, that’s what it’s all about
@@Wanobi99 Yes I’d definitely say the world raid is more comfortable and suited to long distance provided you have the height! Did you think the Touareg had enough power?
@@Wanobi99 yes the world raid has the thicker rally seat on it which is much nicer
I've owned this bike for 4 years and am appalled at how you ride it! CHANGE GEAR and you will see it is as smooth as butter. This bike can accelerate from 30mph to 100+mph without problem in 6th gear! Of course it is Jerky at 30mph when you are still in 2nd gear ffs. It is a torque monster...short shift and learn to love it.
I rode the newer versions of this bike and was much more impressed but where is the cruise control Yamaha?!
Argh, Exeter in the rain. Good old Bridge MC. I live just down the A38, getting my T700 on Friday (21st July 2023)
Amazing, New Bike day tomorrow! The Tenere 700 is a great bike, are you planning to take it touring or know of any off road places locally you can use it?
@@ontheroadadventureHi, yes, miles of unmade roads in Devon, so light of road for the T700 (use a KTM 400EXC for serious stuf) and touring, going to try and go ultra light, sick of lugging way to much gear with me. Cheers, Rob
@@mytube2959 Check out our review of the LOMO bags, these waterproof crash bar bags are ideal, they do panniers and stuff too. All light weight and no scaffolding needed like hard cases. Just the job for the T7 Lomo Crash Bar Dry Bags Review - YOU need these!
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@@ontheroadadventure my brother has them, great value....agreed, I need them 🙃
@@mytube2959 You really can’t go wrong at the price that they are!
For the price and reliability of these bikes compared to others in my opinion you just can’t go wrong, if you want speed then go by a sports bike it really pisses me off when people spout off about speed on some adv’s. If you don’t like a 700 then go pay 25k for a gs. We all do our research before we by a bike and most will modify at some point.
Your comment brings about my overall point. If you want value for money, a basic no nonsense machine that’s reliable and cheap, you can go for the OG of this category the Honda Transalp for example at a fraction of the cost of the T7 which is no longer priced as a bargain new
It is a GREAT bike. It is heavy and crashes really hard. And yes the muffler does get bent in and needs to be pulled out before riding off so it doesn't cut a groove in the swingarm. And due to its weight, it really could benefit from traction control - think about piloting the thing up a steep rutted wet grassy road with a lot of clay in it, with water bars that need to be jumped. I enjoyed mine, but wouldn't buy another. Went back to a dual-purpose bike (EXC350F). But for paved road use and maintained logging roads, etc, it is pretty fantastic.
Do you think the 2025 model fixes the problems?
I have a 2023 T7 (US market, so we didn’t get the new bits). I love it. For my riding right now, it fits my needs almost perfectly. I’m on gravel, dirt, or two track about every time I take it out. With that said however, if I were going to spend the majority of my time on asphalt I’d probably have the Triumph Tiger 900 rally pro. As for the vibration, that is unusual. I’ve never experienced that with the cp2. I do get wind buffeting though, where you didn’t. I’m 6’1” and the windscreen seems to move the airflow right to my face…lol. So I need to address that.
Your lucky to have so much dirt to ride there! I’m not as tall so not wind issues for me. I currently have the tiger 900 gt pro, but want something a little more adventure focused for future tours, I was disappointed with the t7 I rode, you think I just had a bad one?
@@ontheroadadventure I’m no expert, but I would have to say yes. You had a bad bike. I think possibly that bike had tire or wheel issues? Hard to say. I just know mine is incredibly smooth and has tons of low end torque. I don’t think I would rule out the T7 without trying another one.
@@DirtbikeXpeditions Maybe I should try to find a demo in the new world raid. Which model did you go for?
@@ontheroadadventure US market we only have the one choice. It’s the base model. We didn’t even get the updated display or led signals for 2023. I would have liked the updated ABS, led turn signals (the ones we get here in the states are hideous), and cruise control, but we don’t have that option unfortunately.
@@DirtbikeXpeditions Oh that really sucks. It does bring me back to my point though, if it’s a basic no nonsense bike that’s wanted why not by a old Transalp or v Strom etc at 3k instead of the t7 at 10k? Not critiquing just curious really, I think there’s a good argument for both?
Cutting traffic, seeing up ahead and the occasional cheeky "short cut" over bumps/dirt are handy on road at times.
Sounds like you’re enjoying yours?!
I had a DRZ400E(Too slow), then an MT09SP (Too fast), took a Harley Sportster S for a test ride (too hard to hold on, a lot of vibrations, no suspenstion) - but maybe a T7 can fullfil my needs for occassional 300 klm round trips on the freeway, traffic riding and weekend trail rides....@@ontheroadadventure
I do agree it’s a great bike but doesn’t have the comforts and tech I need for long distance touring
I’ve bought 2 bikes from Bridge. Great dealership. Always helpful, happy & professional.
Going to test ride a world raid next week as I’m looking to change my CRF1100. I love the CRF in every way except for the tech. It’s my 1st bike with tech & I’m not a fan.
Great video & review, thank you.
Let us know what you think of the comparison, we have also considered the new Tenere as a replacement for simplicity
For this style of riding a T-max is enough. Lot of wind protection and comfortable seat
Yes, in fairness you can travel on anything and make it work. They say the best bike is the one you have...
@@ontheroadadventure👍
5 foot 7 is a midget in the Netherlands, still like the videos keep them coming !
It much bigger here in the uk mate 🤣 Haven’t found a bike I can’t ride yet though
Interesting review.Theres so many bikes out now its almost a given that you buy a model that suits the type of riding you want to do.
Yes absolutely, I personally went for the Africa twin after this bike as it makes a better touring machine. If I had opportunity to do more off road I would consider this again
I need a Tenure 900 ASAP
Don’t we all! I’m surprised Yamaha haven’t provided it yet
A 500 wouldnt hurt either
@@ikutiap5923 That would be great, some competition for the crf300 rally
Unfortunately as I love Yamaha T7 as much as you my choice will be a new Transalp 750 more likely. Heading to test this on Thursday.
Your lucky to be able to find one to test ride! I’ve no luck yet
When you'll test it, enter user mode, set power to max, Engine breake to 1/2, Traction to minimum and ABS as you wish.
It will blow your mind. After my test ride I ordered it. No more words to say.
@@ontheroadadventure the only reason I believe is that I paid deposit to get one ordered and that’s the reason I have a chance now to test it. I’m more KTM and Yamaha guy but want something more Turing friendly and light weight so we will see how this will work out after the road test
@@kpappa love it 😅
@@BBartyFly I took the new 890 adventure out for a test, that one is high on my list, only a few small complaints, but I want something with character this time, not too sensible, I wanna have fun AND tour
are these not a bit tall?
Not particularly the t7 is a large adventure bike but I’m only 5.7 with 30 inch inseam and I ride it just fine
Mines got no vibs.i think its wheel balance.
I do believe something was maybe off on this bike, I took out the world raid and there was no such problems
The new transalp must surely be a better machine for this type of use in the UK. I'm an offroader but bought the T7 for traveling around multi-day trips 500km or less from home. I live where we have all long perfectly straight highway 140km/h, for hours on end to get to fun stuff in the mountain backcountry. I find the T7 excruciating for that type of highway travel, but tolerable for one day here and there. Once I get to the dirt though, it's in it's element and I can stand up, move around and loosen up the seized up back from all those highway miles, and ride on. After owning this and an Africa twin, along with dozens of mx and enduro bikes, I can't imagine why anyone would buy a T7 if they only ride pavement, since the bike really excels off road more than anywhere else. I've ridden the Africa Twin for 12+ hour hard riding for days on end on the highways across country and it's a beast for that kind of travel. I wouldn't dream of doing that on the T7, but I'm much more effective on it offroad which means I don't turn back when I see that quad trail leading down toward a lake, or a sketchy jeep track leading up the mountain. The Transalp seems like it should narrow the gap between the highway comfort of the africa twin, and the lighter weight ease of handling off road of the T7. I might pick one up if I come across one at the right time. Anything else on the market has too little reliability to bother with as a solo long distance/remote back country traveler from what I've seen out there on the sides of the forestry roads lol.
You are absolutely spot on, which is why both Ewa and I now tour on Africa Twins! We love them for the long tours we do and they are doing fantastic on the current moto camping tour in Spain and Portugal, Id love to have a T7 in portugal for example where theres loads of trails to ride but in the uk theres very little
@@ontheroadadventure That sounds amazing and what a place to explore, enjoy!
@@jetmuchacho It’s a whole different world to what we are used to, your welcome to join us here… bring a sense of humour, you’ll need it 👍👍⛺️⛺️⛺️ Enough is enough, We are leaving for Europe Motocamping tour
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Im 1,70cm, 70kg and my legs are 78cm long, am i to small ?😢 I sat once on her but without riding boots. I would drive like 65% street and 35% Offroad tracks, but no enduro hardcore stuff
It is for sure possible for you to ride the Tenere 700 - The world raid is taller so will be a struggle but you can pick up a standard T7. There are options of lowering kits and lower seats etc too if you need it. Have you considered a triumph scrambler for your needs? check out my review on that one, may be more suitable perhaps?
Have you looked at the new Trasalp from Honda?
Not managed to get my hands on one yet, it’s looking to be a great bike though, I can’t wait to ride one
I think you got unlucky with the vibration..never had a problem with it on mine after 3 years of faultless performance...it's a brilliant bike!!
I have to say i was surprised to find that, its not something i had heard about. Do you think it could of been the tyres? Perhaps i should find another T7 to try to give it a fair chance....
Great video mate. I’ve ordered one, without test riding, which is a bit stupid. I’m sat in central Germany and do use the TET in various surrounding countries but this involves big road miles then long off road sections, so an ADV does fit my needs. That said it’s primarily use will be year round commuting. Reliability is top of my shopping list. Because I’m crap at off road riding I need every advantage I can get, so the T7 was a natural choice. I will just have to live with its niggles that you identified. Again, it’s refreshing to see an honest, real world review. Stay safe.👍🏼
@@GreenString Thanks bud, I always want to give a real opinion as opposed to a paid press review. The T7 is not a bad bike by any margin, I think you’ll enjoy it
@@GreenString dont pay any attention to this crap i have bought the world raid last year , i have ownd bmw gs , triumph tigers etc and this is an awesome bike . you will love it on and of road , you have too own a bike before judging it , not a 20 min test ride , enjoy your t7 ,
@@bertyboy7126 Well I know what you mean mate. I tend to get attached to my bikes. Put on 110,000 km on my GS and still love it. If I had listened to all the negativity about the bike I probably would have never got one. Thanks for the heads up on the Tenere. Stay safe.👍🏼
Great review. The aero demo with your glove is a great way to illustrate the effectivness of the screen. This is the 1st review I've seen that mentions the bad vibrations, as someone who suffers from bad circulation and numbness this is a major issue for me so thanks for highlighting that. Its definitely something I`ll have to look out for on the test ride before I buy.
Thanks the glove thing seems to be simple and effective, I think a visual demonstration is better than saying my opinion where possible. Did you see my review of the Tenere 700 world raid? That one had much less vibration than this one I rode. However I decided against the T7 and took the Africa twin… in this video il tell you why and compare to other similar bikes…. Hope it’s helpful for you ruclips.net/video/haBidtIakog/видео.htmlsi=ZfxythOueDXzZpBb
This test completely misses the point of a tenere, if I had the time I would show you what a tenere can REALLY do but, I’m out having to much fun on it I can say it is one of THE best bikes I have ever ridden , it’s not the best on road, it’s not the best off road but what it does is better than ANYTHING else buy a country mile!! Nothing will touch it for it’s road manners it’s unbelievable off road handling(and I rag the hell out it) it’s build quality and THAT F***ING ENGINE!!! Wow it pulls for days and is stone reliable bombproof (unlike all my KTM’s) and is always eager to start the next day with half a push off the button, what a bike!!!
I do agree, These are fantastic bikes, reliable all rounders with the CP2 engine it’s a winner. However for me, in my opinion they are now above their price point. Yamaha need to make a proper touring variant of this with Cruise control and I would be in
The T7 is a great bike, in my opinion, but you can really enjoy its off road capabilities only If you're tall or if you handle off road like Gaston Rahier (2 times 1m67 tall rally dakar winner on a motorcycle). I loved it, very fun to drive. But being vertically challenged (5f7), I did not enjoy it on bad gravel roads.... so I sold it. And then I missed it. An then I tried the Ducati Multistrada V4. And wow! It's heavier, but with the seat on its lower position, I can flat foot. So it doesn't feel heavier than the T7, and in its sport mode, with the firmer suspension setting, it's almost like a race bike. And on it's 'enduro mode that helps off road incapable people like me feel capable', it's as fun as the T7, but with better brakes. And unlike a sports bike, you can drive relaxed in case there are speed limitations. So now I'm broke, but I'm driving a Multistrada (and I have to work extra hours to pay the extra fuel consumption, but left aside the price and the fuel consumption, it is an exceptional bike)
If you’re smiling it’s worth every penny!
Did the overland trip to Cambodia in the early 2000s on a honda dominator, the perfect rtw bike. Since then nothing better has arrived, but I'm off on a full rtw and the choice is between this and the crf300 rally.
Both would be fine choices, if I knew no motorway was possible I’d take the CRF myself
I think the africa twin is the best bike for you guys it like a refined tenere but heavier.. The tenere was a no frills do it all bike very reliable. All bikes are good . Like the man said you have to get out on them a lovely bike left in the garage is a waste.
We couldn’t agree more. It’s amazing how many people will spend 15-20k on the latest bike and let it collect dust in the garage. We want to see 100k miles on our twins within 5 years
Yamaha’s T700 seems to a threat to some people or this is just a bit of clic bait for the T7 punters ,
if you don’t want a adventure bike don’t buy one , buy a trail bike or a road bike.
Each to their own… I’m not saying this is a bad bike, just that there are many many other options. If I needed such a basic bike, why not have a old transalp??
@@ontheroadadventure yea mate , I hear you .. but old transalp equals old motor ,
old suspension, , old bush’s , old bearings , old o-rings , old seals ect …. and they were heavy to start with ..
same with any old bike especially a adventure bike .
@@queenslander954 It all depends what you want to use it for, I wouldn’t want a new bike to do heavy off roading, seems a waste to destroy so early on in its life! We don’t have such places in our area though to ride much off road sadly
I just got mine T7 23' model tech kamo color...!
I have zero complains!!!
Awesome! What tyres did it come with bud?
@@ontheroadadventure Pirelli Scorpion Rally
@@kostasrestas and no vibrations? I know them to be a good tyre
@@ontheroadadventure well...i came from xt 660z tenere that i had for 4 years..
Vibrations of T7 is just a joke for me!
A whole new world of comfort for you now then! Where in the world are you? Have you got much off road around you? In the south west of the uk there is very little we are aloud to ride
The vibration could easily be investigated I am sure
Yes I think it’s possible there was a issue with this one as it was a used bike
Buy a goldwing
Tenere is the best choice for adventure riding.
If you think the Tenere has a snappy throttle, drive an old single cylinder with flatsides😂
This comment made me think of the Goldwing off-roading video on RUclips have you seen it?
Perfect for Australian conditions with a few tweak's.. now with the world raid only gets better :)
Yes perfect for your location, wish we had more dirt we are allowed to ride here in the uk. I found the world raid was a huge improvement too but definitely taller!
new transalp...better wind protection,lower seat high,comfier,nicer for commuting,much more power,more fuel economy,(easy off road capability,better weight balanced,better for pillion.so,the looks its a little dull yes,but,which modern bike is beautifull,specially in adventure category?so ,if you want to fool yourself that you are a hardcore adventure biker,or just for the looks,buy the tenere
Trouble with the new Transalp is the cost, by the time you have added the stuff you need to it you are in Africa twin territory so why not just buy that in the first place?
you mean to ad full adjastable suspension and skid plate?and handguards.tubeless is the 24 model.i dont know.and again it is not gonna be an africa.but,the difference in price in my country is 5k.lot of money.my comparison was with the tenere.the topic of your video.how overrated tenere is....@@ontheroadadventure
@@thodoris3790 I considered the Transalp but I knew I’d have to add on centre stand, heated grips, luggage, etc which put me at the same money as a Africa twin a year old so went for that one. Both are amazing machines for sure
The blue rims are😢
Your not a fan? Or you’ve had a issue with them?
I dont like the looks w blue on rims, better looking with black
@@TheFbiFilesRepeat black is almost always best! Keep it simple
id like black
@@Freespeach123 I have to agree, can’t go wrong
Oh check out a great bit of kit from Chigee. It’s a infotanement Center, cameras, should someone try to move or steal it, sends message to your phone, dose Apple car play an the android one too.
The cameras are rear, blue nd side shoulder lookouts. Especially for guys with disabilities or can’t look over their shoulders.
Down to earth vid. Great mate.❤❤🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🏍️🏍️
Thanks so much, yes a unit like this is ideal on the T7 for example as it has a really basic display
Can you lower these bikes a bit
Yes plenty of options for that
I shopped around for a long while. Wanting a bike that could do a little bit of everything. T7 and maybe a Desert X were the price ranges i was interested in, Africa Twin was appealing too. But after much research. I put a deposit on a new Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer. About $8000 over a Desert X in my economy. Fact is, by the time you put crash bars and heated grips and seat and adjustable windshield on a T7. Youre looking at a serious price tag well beyond $20,000. And youre still lacking all the technology of the Tiger. Quick shifter is aftermarket, Half the power. A less then adequate suspension with minimal adjustability. A terribly uncomfortable seat. No passenger accomodations unless you want the person sitting in total discomfort. The tubed wheels. So on and so forth.
So i figured this will be a bike i own for the next 10 years minimum. Do i want this T7 for $15,000. With no accessories. A bike thats going to need money dumped into it to really get what i want, itll never have the highway power, or the cruise control. Or do i spend $29,000 and get the bike that has LITERALLY EVERYTHING, Even way longer maintenance intervals.
Its a no brainer. Take on a bit of a bigger payment and enjoy the next 10+ years without compromise.
Bikes are so expensive now, but I do partially agree with you. The only problem is how quickly tech becomes redundant…. I mean will there still be software updates for our bikes in ten years or will they look like Nokia 3210 phones by then?
This is why I compared the T7 to a old Transalp, similar tech at a fraction of the cost
Misleading title…. What’s the f.. truth that you promise in the title? This video is a long monologue without real content.
Sorry mate but there are plenty viddaos about this bike and your video has no content.
You can do better
The truth is, you want a basic style do it all bike you do just as well to buy a old Transalp.
there should be no vibration - maybe you have dodgy tyres...
Something seems to of been amiss with the one I rode, I will be giving the T7 another chance soon!
Our UK roads are dogshit, I practically never rides roads so bad in urban/developed areas of south-east asia...
Yes, it’s getting to a point where we all need off road bikes for road use!
@@ontheroadadventure 🤣🤣🤣
Can’t be any more vibby than my xr650 but I’m about to sell that for a new T7
I test rode more T7’s after this one and the vibes were no longer a problem, I do believe something was not quite right with the one I rode in this review, I have ridden other models such as the world raid too on the channel. Which model are you getting? Does the lack of cruise control bother you?
@@ontheroadadventure I’m getting the latest gen base model blue and gold with the new tft dash. The lack of cruise control doesn’t really bother me because all the bikes I’ve owned never had it, so I’m pretty use to it. I purchase motorcycles and put little mileage on them then turn around and sell them with my end goal being a GS or Tiger to eventually get the creature comforts and the ability for extended touring.
Why not just get the GS or tiger in the first place if that’s your aim? If you don’t do many miles maybe PCP is the way to go for you?
Tracer 9 is the bike I think you were looking for, but you accidentally asked for a T-7. 😂😂
Haha you could be right there! Tracer is one of my fav bikes ever!
I think there is no point bying this bike for road turing mainly. Center of gravity is high and 2 cylinder engine not great. I would go 4 cylinder, smaller tires, something like Versys 1000, much nicer experiance.
You could well be right there
You basically said everything that everybody has been saying for the last two years, just a thought, don't go for a test ride after it rains, so you could flog it a bit more. Wait--it always rains there😂😂😁
Well you’re right about the rain!
Tenere 700 is a great off-road bike its a 50/50 bike,
Great bike if being used in the place it’s designed for
@@ontheroadadventure its designed for 50% offroad 50% onroad, depends on your style of riding and skills
@@ontheroadadventure”designed for…” That big scrumble of an engine is designed purely for road use, so is most of the rest of the bike
@@scannorse As long as it puts smiles on your face it matters not where you are
I use mine primarily for off-road use. Check out my channel. I live in Florida. I haven’t taken it to the mountains yet but have taken it over so many different terrains. I have the 2022. I installed the Camal ADV brake fix and the Camal ADV ANTI BOBBLE and lowering (20mm) rear suspension links. Love mine it’s taken me home every time.
I would just love get hold of a T7 and have some proper off road adventures, but theres not much legal off road to be ridden in the uk
Ganz toll gemacht!
Thanks for joining us on the road
@@ontheroadadventure Thank you!🤓
Glad to have you onboard sir!
Yeah you have bought the wrong bike for your needs and expectations
I didn’t buy it for that very reason bud. It’s a fantastic bike if you ride off road more than on..
Only 70 bhp should be enough for the road ???? What planet you on?
You Dont think 70bhp is enough?
Never ever heard so much garbage talked about a motorcycle that is loved by so many people , the t7 is possibly the best all round adv bike available, i disagree with just about evey thing this guy says .O no vibration and throttle not snatchy ,
Pleased to hear your loving yours, that’s all that really matters, all bikes are subjective and as you said above, you have to own one to have real long term experience with it. My video is just a quick opinion of the bike I rode
I have loads of vibration problems with mine. Working with the dealer to try to find the cause. Happens under load when moving, disappears when the clutch gets pulled in so it’s not tyres or wheels or chain like so many assume. Happens when at a stand still too. As soon as I hit 4000rpm it feels like a tractor. I loved my T7 until the vibration started.
@@rtwt7487 That’s a real shame, I wonder if some of them share a issue? Will the dealer do a deal to upgrade to a newer one for you?
@@rtwt7487 same here ! Do you have crash bar ?
I think it maybe the problem my dealers just a dick so im close to 30 000
Still vibrating ! I just get numb hand specially the right one! my fz07 no shaking same engine but no crash bar thats why im asking
@@fz0716 yeah I’ve got crash bars on mine (outback motortek). The vibration didn’t happen when I first got the bike (put on the crash bars as soon as I got it). Recently the dealer took apart the clutch and rebuilt it (same parts) and the vibration changed quite a bit. Was very high frequency vibration and now it seems to have reduced in frequency but it’s still there. Says to me it could be a quality control issue on the build of the engine. I still love my bike and will never part with it but hope I can find the cause.
Whinging pom
Im English, not happy unless moaning 😂
Pointless review
cheers
Your most welcome
Mine no vibration. Yes the T7 in geared to tall riders. I'm 6.2 and am barely flat footed at stop
Hi did you see my new review of the T7 world raid? I compare the two… ruclips.net/video/4XFTBfWWn-Y/видео.html