What about this theory? In the book Tale of Three Brothers, the veil represents Death and the bridge (referenced in the book) refers to the pathway between Life and Death. The three brothers create the hallows to safely use beyond the veil - the invisibility cloak will let the user to safely pass through the veil and navigate whatever is beyond the veil, the elder wand is the only wand powerful enough to use on the other side of the veil, and the resurrection stone is the only way to safely recall the person who entered the veil, to be brought back to our world. The three brothers were very powerful Wizards who found a way to safely go beyond the veil and also use the Deathly Hallows in our world as well.
The basilisk theory makes a lot of sense- it's via the Peverell Brothers (Cadmus, the middle brother) that Voldemort is even an heir *of* Slytherin. Given Harry's the last heir of Ignotus, the youngest, he's technically *another* heir of Slytherin that nobody talked about!
Cedric didn't die on Hogwarts grounds. It could be argued that Voldemort knew of the enchantment hence the use of a portkey to get Harry/Cedric out of Hogwarts grounds and make them vulnerable.
The mutual dislike between Harry and Snape impacted the occlumency lessons. Harry hated the lessons, because Snape gave them. Snape probably wasn't thrilled to give Harry the lessons. He did at Dumbledore's request. Further, Dumbledore later admitted to Harry that he should have given the lessons instead of Snape.
I agree. When Lupin taught Harry to fight dementors, that was a painful process - Harry kept passing out and hearing his parents' voices - but Lupin kept encouraging him and making sure he was okay. I don't think Harry could have learned the patronus charm if he had a teacher belittling him for having a hard time. Learning Occlumency seems like an equally painful process and Harry needed someone who would be respectful and encouraging
@nicoleraheja8302 and Harry eventually did perform the Patronus Charm during a quidditch game, but this is because the Dementors were actually Malfoy, Crabbe, and Goyle disguised as Dementors. One where they got into serious trouble for. Lol
I don't think Dumbledore want Harry to fail at occlumency, I think he just probably expected it, as its such high level magic so had planned around it.
Then why wouldnt he teach Harry himself? I think it's weak that he truly believed Snape would be able to competently teach Harry so I kinda like the theory
@@davidjames8331 Dumbledore later admitted (toward the end of the fifth book) that he made a mistake having Snape teach Harry occlumency and that he should have given the occlumency lessons instead of Snape.
@@stevegallo8483I know that man I’ve read the book a bunch of times. In my opinion that is really weak reasoning which is why I kind of like the theory
With regards to Harry the Obscurial, it seems that in the book they are actually trying to keep Harry from becoming one, hence the absurd amounts of acceptation letters. This is why even orphans (like Tom) are visited with their acceptance letter to keep them from wreaking havoc as obscurus.
"The Dark Lord is at a considerable distance and the walls and grounds of Hogwarts are guarded by many ancient spells and charms to ensure the bodily and mental safety of those who dwell within them,” said Snape. This is probably why no one ever died on the grounds, except for Myrtle. But she was killed by a danger introduced a Hogwarts founder, so it might be an exception. Edit: I meant to say no student.
Barty crouch sr died on the grounds, Bloody baron committed suicide at Hogwarts, ravenna ravenclaw died in the forbidden Forrest dumbledore obviously, fred, lupin, tonks,Voldemort, colin creevy, bellatrix, fenrir greyback, crabbe, snape
Well Myrtle died before Dumbledore was the headmaster, and it's pretty lucky that everyone was only paralyzed by the basilisk. All those people that died in the battle of hogwarts and astronomy tower were after he was killed, so maybe there is some merit to the theory. "Help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who ask for it"
Which he already had. He both loved Harry because he was Lilly's daughter, yet Harry also _looks_ identical to the guy who made his childhood a living hell and that made it difficult for him to be "kind" to him. (It's is stated time and time again that Harry is looks virtually identical to James, the only difference being the colour of their eyes) Not to mention that if he had gotten close to Harry, by the time Voldemort returned, it would've been hard for him to pretend to be a loyal servant without giving Harry to Voldemort. Like, imagine if Hargrid had been a deatheater, how easily wouldn't he have been able to trick Harry into showing up somewhere were Voldemort could get him? Snape intentionally kept his distance and his aggressive hatred and distain for Harry was both his loathing of James Potter, but also a way to protect both his role as Dumbledore's "inside man" and Harry. Like, if he didn't care for Harry at all.... why would he give him his memories to _show_ him the truth just before he died? He clearly cared enough to let Harry know that he was just trying to protect him and that he had loved her mother.
@@Mukation but I think that Dumbledore thought that if Snape could see how similar he and Harry's lives were, that Snape could forge a bond of sympathy with Harry, not merely as "Lily Evans' son." But. as Dumbledore says in "Half-Blood Prince", some wounds are too deep for healing.
In the movie Ron's divination does come true though. A wonky cross (kings cross/limbo), going to suffer but be happy about it (able to kill voldemort by being killed by voldemort)
Honestly, I've always thought the reason Harry didn't die was because, like his mother, he was given the option to live, and he chose to die to save the people he loved. He didn't fight his death, similar to his mother.
He didn't die because lilly's blood was in Voldemort including the protection from Lilly's sacrifice, as long as Voldemort was alive with that blood in his body harry couldn't die
@@zbanul10 Because she wasn't tethered to life like Harry was which was only possible because she initiated the enchantment by truly sacrificng herself, then by Voldemort taking Harrys blood thus allowing the enchantment to live on after death
Everybody interprets some things differently but to me the "Master of Death" thing was a load of rubbish. If there was a special reason why Harry could break the wand, then doesn't him being master of the wand itself do enough?
I don’t consider what happens in the movies plausible. Only the things that happen in the books matter as they shorten and rearranged things for the movies. Therefore any theories that are taken from the movies don’t matter.Harry didn’t break the Elder Wand. He put it back with Dumbledore so that when Harry died the power would cease to exist.
Well considering what happened with his sister & then the events with the other guy in the prequels (don't know why I can't remember his name at the moment) where deaths & disaster happened because Grindlewald tried to use an obscurial for his own goals, I don't see that Dumbledore would ever intentionally want an innocent child to become an obscurial. He knows it's not a good plan & because of his sister wouldn't have the heart.
I've wondered if the Dementors sucked out Harry's soul, would they also suck out Voldemort's soul or leave that behind? If they left Voldemort's soul in Harry's body, wouldn't that make him Voldemort?
the fact that dumbledore may have placed an enchantment on hogwarts is pretty likely as the only death that happened while he was headmaster being cedric murdered by wormtail on voldemort’s order, took place outside of the hogwarts grounds where the enchantment would of had no effect
It's explained how Harry came back and it wasn't the hallows. Dumbledore knew this would happen, that's why he said voldemort had to be the one who did it. Ron and Hermione were his sibling figures, not his parental figures. Dumbledore did want Harry to learn occlumency since he truly believed voldemort would invade Harry's mind. We know why dementers were extra attracted to Harry and it wasn't because of the small fragment of soul in him. The basilisk wouldn't of recognized Harry as the heir because of a small soul fragment. The seer one was incredibly vague, especially the betrayal one since Barty was never Harry's ally. The obscurial one is also ridiculous. This is another list of terrible fan theories that make no sense, hardly any of them are believable.
Regarding "Snapped Wand" segment: After reading the book, and seeing the movie, it occurs to me that in the movie version, what Harry snapped was a copy that he made, thus protecting his actual placement of the real wand with Dumbledore.
In the books though. If you read carefully enough. It sounds like Voldemort was already breaking the wand by forcing his magic through it while the wand resisted him. Then, it cracks while Harry uses it to repair His wand, which (if wand lore is taken into account here:) the elder wand might have felt insulted/betrayed by. ^ I believe this is more accurate, but not wanting to lose the viewers in cinema, the screenwriters decided to make things simpler by just snapping it.
10. That would have been a solid theory. IF they very next chapter didn't explain otherwise, which it did. '''His body keeps her sacrifice alive, and while the enchantment survives, so do you'' - Dumbledore 9. So just because Harry had friends who supported him, it supposedly mean that they were his parents who timetraveled into the future? There's so many holes in this theory, none which makes sense that I don't even know where to begin. But it's clear whoever came up with this friendship clearly don''t know the difference between relations of friends and relation between child and parent. 8. That's semi plausible. But in the later chapter after the department of mystery, Dumbledore seemed really regretful for not teach Harry himself occlumency instead letting the professor he hates the most do it, causing Harry to fail to learn it and then fall into Voldemort's trap. The prophecy stored there could only be retrieved by Harry and the Order's mission through out the sixth book was to prevent Voldemort to get it. 7. That's the only theory on this list that makes sense and is believable 6. Because while Harry had apart of Voldemort's soul in him, he's still not an heir of Slytherin and directly descended from Salazar, while Voldemort was. And like explained in the CoS book, only their heir could control the monster within the chamber. Btw what's the theory here to begin with? This seems to me more like bringing up a potential plot hole which it isn't. 5. Both Harry and Ron made tons of random predication in the books with only about 3 being correct. It does not make them seers or good predictors in anyway and also divination as a subject is completely fraudulent with even Dumbledore considering the subject non-sense 4. What is the theory here? Everything here is correct and already canon with Hogwarts having tons of magical enchantments and protection to keep external threats to the castle and grounds safe. Pretty much all dangers or threats to the school we see in the books are internal threats except for the Battle of Hogwarts. 3. Yep exactly. Harry did not know of his magical abilities and also was to oblivious to realize whenever he did do accidental magic, hence never tried to repress them and thus not turn into an obscurial. Also if Dumbledore now wanted Harry to become one, you think he would introduce to Harry that he indeed actually was a wizard much early on, in hopes of repressing his magical abilities and turn into one. Then again Harry would most likely have died before going to Hogwarts and becoming any use of to Dumbledore as the Fantastic beasts state, the odds of an obscurial surviving past the age of 10 is incredible rare that we only know two individuals who's done so, Aurelius and Ariana. 2. Well as the films are only secondary canon to the books, then the true canon is Harry putting the elder wand back in Dumbledore's tomb. 1. That also makes sense as a theory if it was that. Because you can transport others with a port-key while holding on to the person who is touching it. We see this in Hogwarts Legacy after initial dragon attack with the student player character hold's Professor Figgs hand while Figg accios the port-key, transporting them to the ruins of Percival Rackham's home
3:00 Uh that one is kind of ridiculous. I will say this, friends can have a positive impact on a person's life, not because they are parental figures or representations (which is weird to think about for Ron and Hermione because they're the same age as Harry), but because they are good people who had good influences in their lives. Parents should never be a friend to their child. The relationship that a friend and parent have on people are completely different. I don't think a friend can/would punish someone to the effect that a parent would have.
I think with the 1st thoery of Harry's resurrection, its caus of Lilly's sacrificial protection. His mother used a form of anicent magic fuled by true genuine love for her son, that Voldemort couldn't touch him. That's why Quirrell disintegrated, cause his master was *on* him. And it protected Harry, along with sharing it with his friends when the battle continued. The school's safty; it's only cause of all of the activities link to or directly from Voldemort. Before he opened the chamber as a student, after he graduated, and all things from pre book 1; Hogwarts really was safe for its students and staff. After his defeat in DH, I'm sure it has become even safer then ever before.
Dumbledore must have understood it was a Basilisk in tcos. The petrified, Creavys camera, moaning Myrtle,the spiders and roosters. Hermione the Muggle born figured it out in her second year! Dumbledore and the staff were real thickies it seems.
The last one seems most pausible. Think of it you travel by portkey by touching it. As they did with the quidditch tournament. But everything you have with you goes with you. They arrived still wearing cloths and everything they had in their pockets. The twins had money to make a bet. So a living thing had to touch it yet everything non living he carries along goes with him. Cedric was no longer living so Harry could take him with him. The theory of the basilisk makes sence to if you think about it. Both the diary and Harry had a part of the soul of Voldemort so both should be able to control it. But what if the soul did not cut in equel parts and the piece that is in the diary made earlier is larger and stronger and has more control. What if each time you create a horcrux you split your soul in halve then the earlier horcruxes should have larger pieces and perhaps strong piecers. Stronger for the diary voldemort to overrule amy control Harry could try. Wich is what happened in the book
Perhaps the Elder wand was always breakable, but the other owners were so obsessed with possessing the power that it embodied that they never dreamed of breaking it. Harry wasn't enamored by the Elder wand's power and simply snapped it in two😄
@@nisar8009 when he's talking about Harry breaking the wand, he's obviously referring to the events in the movie and not the books and he clearly says "In the film however a very different course of action is taken." So yea, re-watch the video from @9:00. Don't act "Holier than Thou" when you can't even back up your position.
My own little theory is that when Bellatrix Lestrange was dueling Molly Weasley, she lost for two reasons, first she didn't take Molly seriously, but secondly I think it's because she didn't have her own original wand, maybe that made her less powerful. The wand properties (flexibility, wood type and core) were most likely different to the original wand that she was proficient in using.
The theories about the Dementors particular interest in Harry as well Harry and Ron predicting the future, I have kept as headcanons for a few years now, the one about Hermoine and Ron being surrogate parents for Harry is pretty sweet and I like it, the one about Cedric, less sweet but sounds very plausible and the one about the basilisk, it is probable. Harry never tried to communicate with it, but at the very least, he might have able to confuse it. The others however, not really my cup of tea, there are better explanations available or are just dark for darkness' sake... Though a theory about Obscurials I do enjoy, is the notion that the Dursley in their fear of magic almost made Harry one, by trying to rid him of his magic. If Harry had known that this was what they were doing, he might have turned into an Obscurial and the only reason it didn't, was because he didn't had even the slightest clue that he was in fact magical.
@@wyattstevens8574 That is possible, though are we certain that Slytherin was related to the Peverell Brothers and if so, do we know that the Peverells are descendants of Slytherin and not the other way around? Because if Slytherin is a descendant of a Peverell (or off course if they aren't related after all), Harry wouldn't be an heir of Slytherin . The reason why I'm not sure, is because unless I've missed other information on Pottermore, the only link between Slytherin and Peverell are the Gaunt family being descendanted of both families. This might be through a straight bloodline but it can also be possible at different points in their history the Slytherin family through the maternal line and the Peverell line, again through the maternal line intermingled with the Gaunts. They are inbred sure, but they didn't started that way necessarily.
People need to stop theorising that Dumbledore literally knew everything down to the last minute detail and could predict exactly what would happen and when. He was exceptionally powerful and clever, but he was not God. He was opportunistic and well-informed. He was not omniscient.
I would have argued the basilisk may have obeyed harry but as soon as harry attepted, tom told him it wouldnt work and thus he went defensive and ran away until he could fight back with the sword.
the obscural thing hve lots of holes in regard to mugleborns in general. you would think that there might be a lot of potential ones from the mugleborne young witches and wizards. maybe it have something to do with acctivly supressing it and beeing aware what you are supressing? if not there would be a chance of a lot of young mugleborne obscurals out there.
Harry only snapped the wand in the movies. In the books he used it to repair his original wand and promised Dumbledore's portrait he would put it back with Dumbledore (in his grave)
People! The reason Harry survived the killing curse in the forest, is because Voldemort took harrys blood in the goblet of fire! It strengthened the protection charm from his mother, and voldemort became the ONLY person who couldn't kill Harry! This isn't rocket science!
So in a way Voldemort was related to Aunt Petunia and Dudley and Vernon through Lily's blood HAH! I bet he didn't share this particular bit of information with his death eaters and Dear old Bella!
The elder wand one : for me i think it would have been always breakable like any other wand but people just didn't think of doing such a thing because they loved it's power and were seduced by it and a person like harry who didn't think of power became the master he broke it... And at the end this is all movie stuff and not the real canon which i prefer what happened to the wand in it of course.
i like the theory but i always interpreted “master of death” as a more metaphoric expression. if you have the most powerful wand, the ability to recall loved ones for advice, and a way to mark yourself completely invisible, then it would be very difficult for anyone to murder you or end your life. doesn’t mean you can’t die but rather you hold death in your hands. because inversely if you have these 3 things it would make it very easy to bring about death to anyone or thing you wished.
for the first one i thought that that was the confirmed reason that harry was able to come back. he had all 3 deathly hallows, and therefore was the master of death, allowing him to choose if he wants to be resurrected. i didn’t realize that was just a theory
It’s funny that hermione is a muggle born Harry is a halfblood and Ronald is Pureblood and Hermione is the smartest of them both and she’s a muggle born 😂
my theory to that is, that Dumbledore was the last master of death. now Harry is the new master of death. if you think about it, Dumbledore gave him a toturial on how to return to the living, while he walked away with death, greating him like an old friend.
TBH I assumed the first was canon, that was always my reading of it. I don’t think the other 2 potential reasons for him surviving hold water. 1. Voldemort 8th Horcrux was harry, so he was inside Harry, how would a curse aimed at harry, miss harry, and hit the thing inside him instead. Also Harry does die (Temporarily), to say that only Voldemort was killed seems ridiculous. 2. Harry's blood seems a bit more in depth, but if the protection it offers is permanent and shields the user from either Voldemort’s curses (The one harry was protected from by his mother), or even all curses, its presence in both Voldemort and harry, would mean harry could've survived again without the need for Voldemort’s body to keep him alive, If it doesn’t work that way, then the blood being in Voldemort is irrelevant, Harry Is just Immortal/always protected. Also again if the blood, either in Harry or in another vessel 9Voldemort) somehow protects Harry, how did Voldemort’s Horcrux, which lives in Harry's body with that same blood die? The Master of death just seems to me the only one that makes any sense at all. Also, what is the importance from a plot point of view of the Hallows (Other than the wand which Vol wanted to allow him to duel Harry and win) if they've not involved here. If that we're the case the whole Hallows subplot is basically meaningless and diminishes the importance of Harry's decision to focus on Horcruxes rather than Hallows (Which was suggested to be some sort of virtuous decision in the books). Theory 2 is loving friends make up for a lack of love elsewhere, well duh, though I’m not sure Ron was ever mature enough to been seen as a father figure though. So, half true The 3rd is silly, being able to read Harry's Mind made Voldemort act like a silly teenager? Reading someone's mind isn't the same as being forced to behave like them. The 4th Makes some sense, though the only times the dementors actually attack Harry Specifically, is when he gets between them and Sirius, as he was warned they would. And when they are sent after him and Dudley which is a lot more planned out than him being an extra tasty meal. So... inconclusive. The Basilisk theory is daft, the logic seems valid but it clearly isn’t what happened. I like the divination one, it’s a nice easter egg, though prophecy is always sufficiently vague in HP even when it’s not outright made up, so how hard would it have been for them to say something wrong? The dumbledore one is rubbish, firstly Cedric did die, (and if a portkey is all that’s needed its a bit easy to get around), also if such a spell existed why not put it on other places too, (Houses of the order's members for example), and why didn’t Dippit use it to protect moaning myrtle. Harry being an obscurial, raises some Qs about continuity (As most muggle-born don’t find out that they’re a witch/wizard until aged 11, so why aren't there load of them?) but also, as you say, its a daft plan for a number of reasons, and also its clearly/factually didn’t happen. I also always took issue with him breaking the wand, in a book where we hear so much about how almost any object can be made all-but indestructible (Horcruxes), the most powerful wand ever, which survived ~1000 years even after Death parted ways with it, was just snapped?!?, Also by that point harry didnt have the resurection stone anymore. Let's just say there's a very obvious reason it didn’t go that way in the book, it makes no sense. The Last one make some sense, assuming you can't travel by portkey indirectly, though Im not sure this is ever stated.
2, I dont think its Hallows, maybe it diminishes their role but they are a distraction which is why Harry choosing Horcuxes is a smart and important decision. Its the enchantment from Lilys blood that lives in Voldemort which, when combined with the fact that Harry willingly sacrificed himself in order to save others (just like his mother) allows him to die but still have the chance to come back. Its like you said both Harry and the piece of Voldemorts soul were killed from the curse, but Harry was able to return to life while Voldys soul was not
no matter how crazy the hp theories get, they have nothing on the craziness of the game of thrones book theories. My favorite being “time traveling fetus” and “nuclear wasteland westeros”.
What if the reason dementors love Harry is because since he was hit with the killing curse and lived harry has a curse that dementors can sense that he’s supposed to be dead but they can’t register the concept of the power of his mothers love and why he lived, Dumbledore did mention that they can’t tell the difference between the one they are attacking vs the one who gets in their way so for a dementors perspective they just see harry as cheating death since they don’t really do much thinking except their actions
Harry Obscurial Theory: Dumbledore knew Voldemort wasn't truly done yet AND left instructions for the Dursleys to tell him everything about who he really is. He intended for Harry to know all along. This theory is complete plausible.
well its not realy on topic, but its also concerning Harry short death. we know for a fact that harry was a horcrux. but if Voldemort could use Avada Kedavra to destroy the horcrux part in harry, why couldnt Harry, Ron and Hermoine use it on the other Horcruxes? i mean if it was Dumbledores plan all along that Harry let himself be killed by voldermort, couldnt he have told Harry this? why the need for the Sword (which only worked because it was absorbing poison from the basilisk), Basilik-teeth or Demonic Fire? it would have been so much easier to just Avada Kedavra the Horcrux and be done with it. and if the answer is " oh yeah that only worked because Harry was alive and not an object" why would Voldemort try to protect Nagini which Charms and Curses? the killingcurse is unblockable, it would have went straight through it. anyways thanks for the vid
Well, the other Horcruxes are subjects. Also maybe Avada Kedavra might have worked, but they didn't try it. As for why Dumbledore doesn't tell Harry anything. If he tells Harry that Avada Kedavra might kill the Horcrux in him, and not him, than Harry will not die willingly. And Dumbledore thinks this is key.
@@CharlesOffdensen fair point. After all Harry's death was all about the intend to die right? So he could kind of copy the sacrificial "spell" Lilly used to protect Harry.
Not The Elder Wand... when he snapped it during the end of the last move, I was done. There was no reason for that, stick to the books, wayyy more fitting ending to the wand!
If there is a spell that could place an unbreakable protection charm over all students at a set location, why couldnt dumbledore just do the same to harry to let him live att grimauld place. This theoretical spell completely eradicates the use and specialness of lily's love protection
If the dementors were drawn to Harry because of Voldemort's soul, wouldn't Harry see Voldemort's worst memories the way he saw Voldemort's present thoughts at other times?
Dumbledore should not have had Snape teach him first but somebody else and then make their way up to his level so that it would not make him hate the lessons.
I have a theory that is much more plausible then any of these. Percy Weasley was put under the imperius curse by Petigrew in the tri wizard tournament.
Um, Cedric Diggory died while Dumbledore was in office, so that theory about him protecting hogwarts more than we know is a bit flawed if this is the main selling point
Not knowing you have something and not using it can be suppression id argue that his aunt and uncle did attempt to suppress his magic but his good nature prevents it
I have to completely disagree with the whole elder wand breaking too easily theory. The point of the elder wand, to me, is that it persisted because of the power and status it gave to people. Everyone wanted it, no one wanted to lose it. Why would someone want to break it? To me, it should be as easily breakable as snapping a twig, because its all about a persons choice and will, whether they are selfish or selfless, whether they can see how its dangerous, and needs to be destroyed.
What if, for the movie version, Harry found something that resembled the elder wand and snapped it so he had witnesses seeing that the elder wand was destroyed but it was a ploy and he actually buried it in secret.
If people can't travel via a portkey indirectly, how did the protagonist of Hogwarts Legacy travel via portkey? A thought that I have is that it's circumstantial in that most cases don't allow it. However, if the situation has people have a particularly strong desire for it, they can. That would explain it as they would both want to avoid death at the jaws of the dragon. It would also explain why it otherwise never works that way.
Is the theory that they should have used the ability to read thoughts to see if Harry put his own name in the goblet of fire? Snape could do this in order of phoenix and I’m guessing it’s not new and that he’s not the only one. Or Dumbledore could have looked through his memories. That story happened in the 1990s. Maybe a muggle video camera and VHS to record what was going on …. Is the theory that they can just …. ignore Harry’s name coming out of the goblet because … they’re adults and they had their three contestants and they can ignore a fourth? Is the theory that they should use the godlike power of the time turner given to a 13 year old girl or whatever to roll back time and protect Cedric and capture/defeat Voldemort? The entire order of the phoenix could have showed up in the graveyard unexpectedly to just end that whole series of stories. No more book 5,6 or 7. Voldemort and his most loyal death eaters gone before Voldemort could fully return.
Id say the dementors were drawn to Harry because he is the main character in the film? It wouldn't make sense if it was someone else.... I don't think Ron and Hermione were meant to be parents its just that ron knew about the wizard world and harry didn't so like any friend he helped him and Hermione was just his gf and a busybody
I.... harry isnt an Obscurial. He never was one. He never tried to supress his magic. As i understand it, supressing ones magic is a vital ingredient in creating an Obscurus.
Another theory is that dumbledore is the master of death like it is told in the deathly hallows story. It is said you needed the elder wand, resurrection stone, and the cloak of invisibility to become death, which dumbledore could have gotten any time between him getting the stone, and him dying. Something else that can support this theory is that when harry "died", who did he meet? DUMBLEDORE
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Honestly? None of them. But I do have a what if scenario for you. What if Remus Lupin was Harry's godfather? Not secret keeper. Just godfather.
What about this theory?
In the book Tale of Three Brothers, the veil represents Death and the bridge (referenced in the book) refers to the pathway between Life and Death. The three brothers create the hallows to safely use beyond the veil - the invisibility cloak will let the user to safely pass through the veil and navigate whatever is beyond the veil, the elder wand is the only wand powerful enough to use on the other side of the veil, and the resurrection stone is the only way to safely recall the person who entered the veil, to be brought back to our world.
The three brothers were very powerful Wizards who found a way to safely go beyond the veil and also use the Deathly Hallows in our world as well.
The basilisk theory makes a lot of sense- it's via the Peverell Brothers (Cadmus, the middle brother) that Voldemort is even an heir *of* Slytherin. Given Harry's the last heir of Ignotus, the youngest, he's technically *another* heir of Slytherin that nobody talked about!
7:32 Cedric Diggory would probably argue against the notion that no student died when Dumbledore was headmaster.
And the band played on 😂
Derp de derp- somehow overlooked this. Well..Still a low number of students! Maybe it only works if they’re AT Hogwarts
Cedric didn't die on Hogwarts grounds. It could be argued that Voldemort knew of the enchantment hence the use of a portkey to get Harry/Cedric out of Hogwarts grounds and make them vulnerable.
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@@RoboBoomStick Not sure Dumbledore was headmaster at that time. I think Armando Dippet was headmaster at that time.
The mutual dislike between Harry and Snape impacted the occlumency lessons. Harry hated the lessons, because Snape gave them. Snape probably wasn't thrilled to give Harry the lessons. He did at Dumbledore's request. Further, Dumbledore later admitted to Harry that he should have given the lessons instead of Snape.
I agree. When Lupin taught Harry to fight dementors, that was a painful process - Harry kept passing out and hearing his parents' voices - but Lupin kept encouraging him and making sure he was okay. I don't think Harry could have learned the patronus charm if he had a teacher belittling him for having a hard time. Learning Occlumency seems like an equally painful process and Harry needed someone who would be respectful and encouraging
@@nicoleraheja8302 Snape's obvious dislike of Harry meant there would be no encouragement.
@@stevegallo8483 that's why he said he agrees lol
@nicoleraheja8302 and Harry eventually did perform the Patronus Charm during a quidditch game, but this is because the Dementors were actually Malfoy, Crabbe, and Goyle disguised as Dementors. One where they got into serious trouble for. Lol
Had the Dementors sucked out Harry's soul, it would have left Tom Riddle's soul in charge of Harry's body!
Sounds good to me
Omg that’s a scary thought!
or it sucks out voldemorts soul since it is more unstable and 'looser'.
Or... maybe the opposite.
I don't think Dumbledore want Harry to fail at occlumency, I think he just probably expected it, as its such high level magic so had planned around it.
Then why wouldnt he teach Harry himself? I think it's weak that he truly believed Snape would be able to competently teach Harry so I kinda like the theory
@@davidjames8331 did you read the 5th book. Dumbldore was avoiding Harry so that voldy couldn’t spy on him
@@zbanul10 Yes, and in my opinion thats weak reasoning from Dumbledore. One of the reasons why Order is probably my least favorite of the seven
@@davidjames8331 Dumbledore later admitted (toward the end of the fifth book) that he made a mistake having Snape teach Harry occlumency and that he should have given the occlumency lessons instead of Snape.
@@stevegallo8483I know that man I’ve read the book a bunch of times. In my opinion that is really weak reasoning which is why I kind of like the theory
Breaking the Elder Wand was as ridiculous as the Cho Chang marrying Dudley.
Cho Chang bing bang hit stone cold ayyy
Dropping the resurrection stone in the woods was ridiculous too.
With regards to Harry the Obscurial, it seems that in the book they are actually trying to keep Harry from becoming one, hence the absurd amounts of acceptation letters. This is why even orphans (like Tom) are visited with their acceptance letter to keep them from wreaking havoc as obscurus.
Extra soul theory is great id like to add they would be able to sense the level of evil in the extra soul contained and maybe even how it was created
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I always wondered, if the dementors could suck the soul pieces out of the horcruxes - but then... Dmentors would have to be willing to be helpful
"The Dark Lord is at a considerable distance and the walls and grounds of Hogwarts are guarded by many ancient spells and charms to ensure the bodily and mental safety of those who dwell within them,” said Snape.
This is probably why no one ever died on the grounds, except for Myrtle. But she was killed by a danger introduced a Hogwarts founder, so it might be an exception.
Edit: I meant to say no student.
No one ever died at Hogwarts? Where exactly was Dumbledore when he died?
Barty crouch sr died on the grounds, Bloody baron committed suicide at Hogwarts, ravenna ravenclaw died in the forbidden Forrest dumbledore obviously, fred, lupin, tonks,Voldemort, colin creevy, bellatrix, fenrir greyback, crabbe, snape
Well Myrtle died before Dumbledore was the headmaster, and it's pretty lucky that everyone was only paralyzed by the basilisk. All those people that died in the battle of hogwarts and astronomy tower were after he was killed, so maybe there is some merit to the theory. "Help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who ask for it"
@@danadcock7028 I meant to say no student.
@@davidjames8331Well Hogwarts was smashed up and the protections broken then. It was a magic battle.
I don't think Dumbledore "intended" Harry to fail... I think he "intended" Snape to develop a bond with Harry.
Which he already had. He both loved Harry because he was Lilly's daughter, yet Harry also _looks_ identical to the guy who made his childhood a living hell and that made it difficult for him to be "kind" to him. (It's is stated time and time again that Harry is looks virtually identical to James, the only difference being the colour of their eyes)
Not to mention that if he had gotten close to Harry, by the time Voldemort returned, it would've been hard for him to pretend to be a loyal servant without giving Harry to Voldemort. Like, imagine if Hargrid had been a deatheater, how easily wouldn't he have been able to trick Harry into showing up somewhere were Voldemort could get him?
Snape intentionally kept his distance and his aggressive hatred and distain for Harry was both his loathing of James Potter, but also a way to protect both his role as Dumbledore's "inside man" and Harry.
Like, if he didn't care for Harry at all.... why would he give him his memories to _show_ him the truth just before he died? He clearly cared enough to let Harry know that he was just trying to protect him and that he had loved her mother.
@@Mukation but I think that Dumbledore thought that if Snape could see how similar he and Harry's lives were, that Snape could forge a bond of sympathy with Harry, not merely as "Lily Evans' son." But. as Dumbledore says in "Half-Blood Prince", some wounds are too deep for healing.
In the movie Ron's divination does come true though. A wonky cross (kings cross/limbo), going to suffer but be happy about it (able to kill voldemort by being killed by voldemort)
Honestly, I've always thought the reason Harry didn't die was because, like his mother, he was given the option to live, and he chose to die to save the people he loved. He didn't fight his death, similar to his mother.
Then why would his mother die
He didn't die because lilly's blood was in Voldemort including the protection from Lilly's sacrifice, as long as Voldemort was alive with that blood in his body harry couldn't die
@@zbanul10 Because she wasn't tethered to life like Harry was which was only possible because she initiated the enchantment by truly sacrificng herself, then by Voldemort taking Harrys blood thus allowing the enchantment to live on after death
@@davidjames8331 Ik I was saying due to ops theory that lily shouldn’t have died
@@zbanul10 ah yes, I obviously got this the wrong way around
Everybody interprets some things differently but to me the "Master of Death" thing was a load of rubbish. If there was a special reason why Harry could break the wand, then doesn't him being master of the wand itself do enough?
He didn’t break the wand. He put it back in Dumbledore’s grave.
@@nisar8009in the movie
@@nisar8009 Did you watch this video?
Hairy Pooter was too focused on his best friends sister, as we all come do
@@weswheel4834 I just watched it again and there was no mention that these are from the movies. You should watch it again!
I don’t consider what happens in the movies plausible. Only the things that happen in the books matter as they shorten and rearranged things for the movies. Therefore any theories that are taken from the movies don’t matter.Harry didn’t break the Elder Wand. He put it back with Dumbledore so that when Harry died the power would cease to exist.
Hairy Pooter sucks at magic wands cause he focus on his friends ginger sister
Well considering what happened with his sister & then the events with the other guy in the prequels (don't know why I can't remember his name at the moment) where deaths & disaster happened because Grindlewald tried to use an obscurial for his own goals, I don't see that Dumbledore would ever intentionally want an innocent child to become an obscurial. He knows it's not a good plan & because of his sister wouldn't have the heart.
I've wondered if the Dementors sucked out Harry's soul, would they also suck out Voldemort's soul or leave that behind?
If they left Voldemort's soul in Harry's body, wouldn't that make him Voldemort?
The divination bit was in Goblet of Fire. I always wondered who the red haired man was that Trewlaney warned Parvati Patil about
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the fact that dumbledore may have placed an enchantment on hogwarts is pretty likely as the only death that happened while he was headmaster being cedric murdered by wormtail on voldemort’s order, took place outside of the hogwarts grounds where the enchantment would of had no effect
It’s mad funny that the argument for dumbledore being a good headmaster is no child died at his school LOL
Lol they forgot Cedric Diggory
@@rezapahlevi5056 Cedric died when outside the school grounds.
It's explained how Harry came back and it wasn't the hallows. Dumbledore knew this would happen, that's why he said voldemort had to be the one who did it. Ron and Hermione were his sibling figures, not his parental figures. Dumbledore did want Harry to learn occlumency since he truly believed voldemort would invade Harry's mind. We know why dementers were extra attracted to Harry and it wasn't because of the small fragment of soul in him. The basilisk wouldn't of recognized Harry as the heir because of a small soul fragment. The seer one was incredibly vague, especially the betrayal one since Barty was never Harry's ally. The obscurial one is also ridiculous. This is another list of terrible fan theories that make no sense, hardly any of them are believable.
Harry could have controlled the basilisk if he had thought to give it orders prior to Tom Riddle horccrux saying don't listen to him
Great vid man, there were multiple great theories I hadn't thought of before
Regarding "Snapped Wand" segment:
After reading the book, and seeing the movie, it occurs to me that in the movie version, what Harry snapped was a copy that he made, thus protecting his actual placement of the real wand with Dumbledore.
In the books though. If you read carefully enough. It sounds like Voldemort was already breaking the wand by forcing his magic through it while the wand resisted him.
Then, it cracks while Harry uses it to repair His wand, which (if wand lore is taken into account here:) the elder wand might have felt insulted/betrayed by.
^ I believe this is more accurate, but not wanting to lose the viewers in cinema, the screenwriters decided to make things simpler by just snapping it.
10. That would have been a solid theory. IF they very next chapter didn't explain otherwise, which it did. '''His body keeps her sacrifice alive, and while the enchantment survives, so do you'' - Dumbledore
9. So just because Harry had friends who supported him, it supposedly mean that they were his parents who timetraveled into the future? There's so many holes in this theory, none which makes sense that I don't even know where to begin. But it's clear whoever came up with this friendship clearly don''t know the difference between relations of friends and relation between child and parent.
8. That's semi plausible. But in the later chapter after the department of mystery, Dumbledore seemed really regretful for not teach Harry himself occlumency instead letting the professor he hates the most do it, causing Harry to fail to learn it and then fall into Voldemort's trap. The prophecy stored there could only be retrieved by Harry and the Order's mission through out the sixth book was to prevent Voldemort to get it.
7. That's the only theory on this list that makes sense and is believable
6. Because while Harry had apart of Voldemort's soul in him, he's still not an heir of Slytherin and directly descended from Salazar, while Voldemort was. And like explained in the CoS book, only their heir could control the monster within the chamber. Btw what's the theory here to begin with? This seems to me more like bringing up a potential plot hole which it isn't.
5. Both Harry and Ron made tons of random predication in the books with only about 3 being correct. It does not make them seers or good predictors in anyway and also divination as a subject is completely fraudulent with even Dumbledore considering the subject non-sense
4. What is the theory here? Everything here is correct and already canon with Hogwarts having tons of magical enchantments and protection to keep external threats to the castle and grounds safe. Pretty much all dangers or threats to the school we see in the books are internal threats except for the Battle of Hogwarts.
3. Yep exactly. Harry did not know of his magical abilities and also was to oblivious to realize whenever he did do accidental magic, hence never tried to repress them and thus not turn into an obscurial. Also if Dumbledore now wanted Harry to become one, you think he would introduce to Harry that he indeed actually was a wizard much early on, in hopes of repressing his magical abilities and turn into one. Then again Harry would most likely have died before going to Hogwarts and becoming any use of to Dumbledore as the Fantastic beasts state, the odds of an obscurial surviving past the age of 10 is incredible rare that we only know two individuals who's done so, Aurelius and Ariana.
2. Well as the films are only secondary canon to the books, then the true canon is Harry putting the elder wand back in Dumbledore's tomb.
1. That also makes sense as a theory if it was that. Because you can transport others with a port-key while holding on to the person who is touching it. We see this in Hogwarts Legacy after initial dragon attack with the student player character hold's Professor Figgs hand while Figg accios the port-key, transporting them to the ruins of Percival Rackham's home
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Thank-you!
3:00 Uh that one is kind of ridiculous. I will say this, friends can have a positive impact on a person's life, not because they are parental figures or representations (which is weird to think about for Ron and Hermione because they're the same age as Harry), but because they are good people who had good influences in their lives. Parents should never be a friend to their child. The relationship that a friend and parent have on people are completely different. I don't think a friend can/would punish someone to the effect that a parent would have.
I think with the 1st thoery of Harry's resurrection, its caus of Lilly's sacrificial protection. His mother used a form of anicent magic fuled by true genuine love for her son, that Voldemort couldn't touch him. That's why Quirrell disintegrated, cause his master was *on* him. And it protected Harry, along with sharing it with his friends when the battle continued. The school's safty; it's only cause of all of the activities link to or directly from Voldemort. Before he opened the chamber as a student, after he graduated, and all things from pre book 1; Hogwarts really was safe for its students and staff. After his defeat in DH, I'm sure it has become even safer then ever before.
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The Cedric one makes total sense
Cedic died while Dumbledore was head master
Dumbledore must have understood it was a Basilisk in tcos. The petrified, Creavys camera, moaning Myrtle,the spiders and roosters. Hermione the Muggle born figured it out in her second year! Dumbledore and the staff were real thickies it seems.
The last one seems most pausible. Think of it you travel by portkey by touching it. As they did with the quidditch tournament. But everything you have with you goes with you. They arrived still wearing cloths and everything they had in their pockets. The twins had money to make a bet. So a living thing had to touch it yet everything non living he carries along goes with him. Cedric was no longer living so Harry could take him with him. The theory of the basilisk makes sence to if you think about it. Both the diary and Harry had a part of the soul of Voldemort so both should be able to control it. But what if the soul did not cut in equel parts and the piece that is in the diary made earlier is larger and stronger and has more control. What if each time you create a horcrux you split your soul in halve then the earlier horcruxes should have larger pieces and perhaps strong piecers. Stronger for the diary voldemort to overrule amy control Harry could try. Wich is what happened in the book
I always thought Dumbledores secret agenda for the occlumency lessons was cannon. And why the demontors were more attracted to Harry
Perhaps the Elder wand was always breakable, but the other owners were so obsessed with possessing the power that it embodied that they never dreamed of breaking it. Harry wasn't enamored by the Elder wand's power and simply snapped it in two😄
Harry didn’t break the Elder Wand. He placed it in Dumbledore’s tomb. Read the books.
@@nisar8009 we are talking about the film here. Watch the films.
@@JustaSprigofMint there’s no mention in this video that these are from the movies! I just watched it again!
@@JustaSprigofMintthere’s no mention in this video that these are from the movies!
@@nisar8009 when he's talking about Harry breaking the wand, he's obviously referring to the events in the movie and not the books and he clearly says "In the film however a very different course of action is taken." So yea, re-watch the video from @9:00. Don't act "Holier than Thou" when you can't even back up your position.
My own little theory is that when Bellatrix Lestrange was dueling Molly Weasley, she lost for two reasons, first she didn't take Molly seriously, but secondly I think it's because she didn't have her own original wand, maybe that made her less powerful. The wand properties (flexibility, wood type and core) were most likely different to the original wand that she was proficient in using.
Here is my theory: Hermione kidnapped Neville Longbottom's toad in order to wander about the train snooping on the other first year students.
The theories about the Dementors particular interest in Harry as well Harry and Ron predicting the future, I have kept as headcanons for a few years now, the one about Hermoine and Ron being surrogate parents for Harry is pretty sweet and I like it, the one about Cedric, less sweet but sounds very plausible and the one about the basilisk, it is probable. Harry never tried to communicate with it, but at the very least, he might have able to confuse it. The others however, not really my cup of tea, there are better explanations available or are just dark for darkness' sake... Though a theory about Obscurials I do enjoy, is the notion that the Dursley in their fear of magic almost made Harry one, by trying to rid him of his magic. If Harry had known that this was what they were doing, he might have turned into an Obscurial and the only reason it didn't, was because he didn't had even the slightest clue that he was in fact magical.
About the basilisk theory: Harry and Voldemort were *both* technically heirs of Slytherin (Ignotus and Cadmus respectively) so it's probable!
@@wyattstevens8574 That is possible, though are we certain that Slytherin was related to the Peverell Brothers and if so, do we know that the Peverells are descendants of Slytherin and not the other way around? Because if Slytherin is a descendant of a Peverell (or off course if they aren't related after all), Harry wouldn't be an heir of Slytherin . The reason why I'm not sure, is because unless I've missed other information on Pottermore, the only link between Slytherin and Peverell are the Gaunt family being descendanted of both families. This might be through a straight bloodline but it can also be possible at different points in their history the Slytherin family through the maternal line and the Peverell line, again through the maternal line intermingled with the Gaunts. They are inbred sure, but they didn't started that way necessarily.
People need to stop theorising that Dumbledore literally knew everything down to the last minute detail and could predict exactly what would happen and when.
He was exceptionally powerful and clever, but he was not God.
He was opportunistic and well-informed. He was not omniscient.
Cedric theory is plausible and I’m curious if the traits of Ron and hermione being similar to James and Lilly was intentional.
I should have payed attention to the warning and skipped the last one. I cant stop crying now 💔😭😭😭😭
I would have argued the basilisk may have obeyed harry but as soon as harry attepted, tom told him it wouldnt work and thus he went defensive and ran away until he could fight back with the sword.
As far as I remember, that's only in the movie. If I'm remembering right, no such thing was stated in the book.
8:43 also the fact that Hogwarts sent Harry many letters to attend the school.
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the obscural thing hve lots of holes in regard to mugleborns in general. you would think that there might be a lot of potential ones from the mugleborne young witches and wizards. maybe it have something to do with acctivly supressing it and beeing aware what you are supressing? if not there would be a chance of a lot of young mugleborne obscurals out there.
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6:02 The correct word would be subconscious. Unconscious means not awake. They weren't sleeping.
Harry only snapped the wand in the movies. In the books he used it to repair his original wand and promised Dumbledore's portrait he would put it back with Dumbledore (in his grave)
People! The reason Harry survived the killing curse in the forest, is because Voldemort took harrys blood in the goblet of fire! It strengthened the protection charm from his mother, and voldemort became the ONLY person who couldn't kill Harry! This isn't rocket science!
So in a way Voldemort was related to Aunt Petunia and Dudley and Vernon through Lily's blood HAH! I bet he didn't share this particular bit of information with his death eaters and Dear old Bella!
@@StorySenseChannelVoldemort didn't even know
The elder wand one : for me i think it would have been always breakable like any other wand but people just didn't think of doing such a thing because they loved it's power and were seduced by it and a person like harry who didn't think of power became the master he broke it... And at the end this is all movie stuff and not the real canon which i prefer what happened to the wand in it of course.
“No students ever died under Dumbledore’s tenure”
Side eyes Cedric Diggory…
Daniel Radcliffe actually spilt his drink when he saw Katie Leung.
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@@HarryPotterTheory it's just a theory! 🤣🤣 Happy New Year. 😄
i like the theory but i always interpreted “master of death” as a more metaphoric expression. if you have the most powerful wand, the ability to recall loved ones for advice, and a way to mark yourself completely invisible, then it would be very difficult for anyone to murder you or end your life. doesn’t mean you can’t die but rather you hold death in your hands. because inversely if you have these 3 things it would make it very easy to bring about death to anyone or thing you wished.
Hermione went against him a lot in the movies and was wrong about him a lot as well, and Ron did the same thing.😊
for the first one i thought that that was the confirmed reason that harry was able to come back. he had all 3 deathly hallows, and therefore was the master of death, allowing him to choose if he wants to be resurrected. i didn’t realize that was just a theory
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Now I’m picturing the Dementors salivating over Harry’s Super Size Soul
It’s funny that hermione is a muggle born Harry is a halfblood and Ronald is Pureblood and Hermione is the smartest of them both and she’s a muggle born 😂
1:25 my question is why is dumbldore in limbo? Is it bc he still feels regret for Ariana’s death or something else?
It depends on how time works there.
Bc he wanted to talk to him
my theory to that is, that Dumbledore was the last master of death. now Harry is the new master of death. if you think about it, Dumbledore gave him a toturial on how to return to the living, while he walked away with death, greating him like an old friend.
the foreshadowing was layed in the first book btw. "for the well-prepared mind, Death is just the next big adventure"
He was the master of death before Harry so he choose to stick around until Voldy went Mouldy!
TBH I assumed the first was canon, that was always my reading of it. I don’t think the other 2 potential reasons for him surviving hold water.
1. Voldemort 8th Horcrux was harry, so he was inside Harry, how would a curse aimed at harry, miss harry, and hit the thing inside him instead. Also Harry does die (Temporarily), to say that only Voldemort was killed seems ridiculous.
2. Harry's blood seems a bit more in depth, but if the protection it offers is permanent and shields the user from either Voldemort’s curses (The one harry was protected from by his mother), or even all curses, its presence in both Voldemort and harry, would mean harry could've survived again without the need for Voldemort’s body to keep him alive, If it doesn’t work that way, then the blood being in Voldemort is irrelevant, Harry Is just Immortal/always protected. Also again if the blood, either in Harry or in another vessel 9Voldemort) somehow protects Harry, how did Voldemort’s Horcrux, which lives in Harry's body with that same blood die? The Master of death just seems to me the only one that makes any sense at all. Also, what is the importance from a plot point of view of the Hallows (Other than the wand which Vol wanted to allow him to duel Harry and win) if they've not involved here. If that we're the case the whole Hallows subplot is basically meaningless and diminishes the importance of Harry's decision to focus on Horcruxes rather than Hallows (Which was suggested to be some sort of virtuous decision in the books).
Theory 2 is loving friends make up for a lack of love elsewhere, well duh, though I’m not sure Ron was ever mature enough to been seen as a father figure though. So, half true
The 3rd is silly, being able to read Harry's Mind made Voldemort act like a silly teenager? Reading someone's mind isn't the same as being forced to behave like them.
The 4th Makes some sense, though the only times the dementors actually attack Harry Specifically, is when he gets between them and Sirius, as he was warned they would. And when they are sent after him and Dudley which is a lot more planned out than him being an extra tasty meal. So... inconclusive.
The Basilisk theory is daft, the logic seems valid but it clearly isn’t what happened.
I like the divination one, it’s a nice easter egg, though prophecy is always sufficiently vague in HP even when it’s not outright made up, so how hard would it have been for them to say something wrong?
The dumbledore one is rubbish, firstly Cedric did die, (and if a portkey is all that’s needed its a bit easy to get around), also if such a spell existed why not put it on other places too, (Houses of the order's members for example), and why didn’t Dippit use it to protect moaning myrtle.
Harry being an obscurial, raises some Qs about continuity (As most muggle-born don’t find out that they’re a witch/wizard until aged 11, so why aren't there load of them?) but also, as you say, its a daft plan for a number of reasons, and also its clearly/factually didn’t happen.
I also always took issue with him breaking the wand, in a book where we hear so much about how almost any object can be made all-but indestructible (Horcruxes), the most powerful wand ever, which survived ~1000 years even after Death parted ways with it, was just snapped?!?, Also by that point harry didnt have the resurection stone anymore. Let's just say there's a very obvious reason it didn’t go that way in the book, it makes no sense.
The Last one make some sense, assuming you can't travel by portkey indirectly, though Im not sure this is ever stated.
2, I dont think its Hallows, maybe it diminishes their role but they are a distraction which is why Harry choosing Horcuxes is a smart and important decision. Its the enchantment from Lilys blood that lives in Voldemort which, when combined with the fact that Harry willingly sacrificed himself in order to save others (just like his mother) allows him to die but still have the chance to come back. Its like you said both Harry and the piece of Voldemorts soul were killed from the curse, but Harry was able to return to life while Voldys soul was not
no matter how crazy the hp theories get, they have nothing on the craziness of the game of thrones book theories. My favorite being “time traveling fetus” and “nuclear wasteland westeros”.
The last point paired up with Cedric’s face on the screen getting progressively closer and closer made me feel a bit uneasy…😳
Man, that's not the Cedric and Harry theory I was hoping for lmao!
5:25 That's a good one!💯
@6:12 I’m pretty sure it was goblet of fire not prisoner of Azkaban when they did the dream diary
Was moaning Myrtle killed when Dumbledore was headmaster or was he just a teacher at that point?
He was just a teacher.
What if the reason dementors love Harry is because since he was hit with the killing curse and lived harry has a curse that dementors can sense that he’s supposed to be dead but they can’t register the concept of the power of his mothers love and why he lived, Dumbledore did mention that they can’t tell the difference between the one they are attacking vs the one who gets in their way so for a dementors perspective they just see harry as cheating death since they don’t really do much thinking except their actions
Consider this ; replace Harrys blood with Dumbledores.
The Cedric one hurt. I read the book, then saw the movie in theaters 😭
My theory: Newt Scamander was on the marauders map because he was there to study the Basilisk corpse.
Harry Obscurial Theory: Dumbledore knew Voldemort wasn't truly done yet AND left instructions for the Dursleys to tell him everything about who he really is. He intended for Harry to know all along. This theory is complete plausible.
well its not realy on topic, but its also concerning Harry short death. we know for a fact that harry was a horcrux. but if Voldemort could use Avada Kedavra to destroy the horcrux part in harry, why couldnt Harry, Ron and Hermoine use it on the other Horcruxes? i mean if it was Dumbledores plan all along that Harry let himself be killed by voldermort, couldnt he have told Harry this? why the need for the Sword (which only worked because it was absorbing poison from the basilisk), Basilik-teeth or Demonic Fire? it would have been so much easier to just Avada Kedavra the Horcrux and be done with it. and if the answer is " oh yeah that only worked because Harry was alive and not an object" why would Voldemort try to protect Nagini which Charms and Curses? the killingcurse is unblockable, it would have went straight through it. anyways thanks for the vid
Well, the other Horcruxes are subjects.
Also maybe Avada Kedavra might have worked, but they didn't try it.
As for why Dumbledore doesn't tell Harry anything. If he tells Harry that Avada Kedavra might kill the Horcrux in him, and not him, than Harry will not die willingly. And Dumbledore thinks this is key.
Dont forget Avada Kedavra is a powerful bit of magic and I dont think they would risk trying it
@@CharlesOffdensen fair point. After all Harry's death was all about the intend to die right? So he could kind of copy the sacrificial "spell" Lilly used to protect Harry.
No student has ever died during his time, meanwhile cedric digory getting murdered by wormtail
Came here to say exactly this.....
...resulting in him rushing to the ministry of magic and expose himself. I know what you meant but I have a gutter mind.
Not The Elder Wand... when he snapped it during the end of the last move, I was done. There was no reason for that, stick to the books, wayyy more fitting ending to the wand!
Only way that Ron and Hermione as Harry’s parents could work is if we never saw or were given descriptions of Harry’s parents
If there is a spell that could place an unbreakable protection charm over all students at a set location, why couldnt dumbledore just do the same to harry to let him live att grimauld place. This theoretical spell completely eradicates the use and specialness of lily's love protection
If the dementors were drawn to Harry because of Voldemort's soul, wouldn't Harry see Voldemort's worst memories the way he saw Voldemort's present thoughts at other times?
Killing Lilly was Voldemort’s worst memory.
Do you say that because the love she provided caused Voldemort to lose his powers when he attacked Harry?@@chelseamartinez1038
And it was Harry's to.
Dumbledore should not have had Snape teach him first but somebody else and then make their way up to his level so that it would not make him hate the lessons.
Snape and Dumbledore were bros, bro
I have a theory that is much more plausible then any of these. Percy Weasley was put under the imperius curse by Petigrew in the tri wizard tournament.
The Weasleys Fed Harry and Hermione love potions.
Ginny keyed to Harry.
Ron keyed to Hermione.
It would have faded in the times they weren't around each other
Um, Cedric Diggory died while Dumbledore was in office, so that theory about him protecting hogwarts more than we know is a bit flawed if this is the main selling point
@@handlenot030 my bad, I totes did not factor that into my argument. I redact my statement lol
Hagrid and Minerva are Harry’s parental figures. Rubbish that it would be Ron and hermione they were children
Not knowing you have something and not using it can be suppression id argue that his aunt and uncle did attempt to suppress his magic but his good nature prevents it
I have to completely disagree with the whole elder wand breaking too easily theory.
The point of the elder wand, to me, is that it persisted because of the power and status it gave to people. Everyone wanted it, no one wanted to lose it. Why would someone want to break it?
To me, it should be as easily breakable as snapping a twig, because its all about a persons choice and will, whether they are selfish or selfless, whether they can see how its dangerous, and needs to be destroyed.
What if, for the movie version, Harry found something that resembled the elder wand and snapped it so he had witnesses seeing that the elder wand was destroyed but it was a ploy and he actually buried it in secret.
No student died when he was headmaster.... Bro they literally showed you Cedric getting decked.
It’s been a while since I’ve watched hp theory
Hogwarts Legacy shows 2 LIVING people going through a portkey
If people can't travel via a portkey indirectly, how did the protagonist of Hogwarts Legacy travel via portkey? A thought that I have is that it's circumstantial in that most cases don't allow it. However, if the situation has people have a particularly strong desire for it, they can. That would explain it as they would both want to avoid death at the jaws of the dragon. It would also explain why it otherwise never works that way.
Is the theory that they should have used the ability to read thoughts to see if Harry put his own name in the goblet of fire? Snape could do this in order of phoenix and I’m guessing it’s not new and that he’s not the only one. Or Dumbledore could have looked through his memories. That story happened in the 1990s. Maybe a muggle video camera and VHS to record what was going on ….
Is the theory that they can just …. ignore Harry’s name coming out of the goblet because … they’re adults and they had their three contestants and they can ignore a fourth?
Is the theory that they should use the godlike power of the time turner given to a 13 year old girl or whatever to roll back time and protect Cedric and capture/defeat Voldemort? The entire order of the phoenix could have showed up in the graveyard unexpectedly to just end that whole series of stories. No more book 5,6 or 7. Voldemort and his most loyal death eaters gone before Voldemort could fully return.
If JK says it is canon. It's Canon! SHE is the AUTHOR! (This opinion comes from a person who HATES Fantastic Beasts and Cursed Child)
R.I.P. Cedric, but team Jacob!
Id say the dementors were drawn to Harry because he is the main character in the film? It wouldn't make sense if it was someone else.... I don't think Ron and Hermione were meant to be parents its just that ron knew about the wizard world and harry didn't so like any friend he helped him and Hermione was just his gf and a busybody
What would’ve happened to Voldemort if the dementors had kissed Harry and sucked out voldys soul?
I.... harry isnt an Obscurial. He never was one. He never tried to supress his magic. As i understand it, supressing ones magic is a vital ingredient in creating an Obscurus.
The last one seems the most plausible
Another theory is that dumbledore is the master of death like it is told in the deathly hallows story. It is said you needed the elder wand, resurrection stone, and the cloak of invisibility to become death, which dumbledore could have gotten any time between him getting the stone, and him dying. Something else that can support this theory is that when harry "died", who did he meet? DUMBLEDORE
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if harry was a horcrux which affected his god parents (the Dursleys) then why did the locket affect harry being both were a horcrux?
I just don't see Dumbledore and snape wanting him to fail cause if he did then Voldemort would of been able to find him better