I will never understand this part of being worried/angry about a celebrity dating. Otherwise, we're still behind the times when it comes to worrying about other people's sexuality.
Because of their culture. The word idol is already weird to put on a human being. These ppl are being fantasied about, that's what they sell. Most of that public, is straight women. When they find out the idol is gay or not single, it destroys that fantasy about being their crush/love interest. And they are no longer desirable. Some ppl even feel betrayed. But it happens too if the image they sell publicly, for example being cutesy, gets exposed to be fake. Ppl feel tricked. Here in western culture a singer is admired about their music. ppl rather act betrayed if they change said music calling them sell outs. Same with acting, ppl feel betrayed if a actor who has roles where they are often hero's and heartthrobs turn out to be grumpy or have completely different image of what they portrayed. If you work in entertainment, you are a product and thus objectified and not seen as a person anymore. Ppl in the entertainment industry gain alot of money but the expectations are astronomical.
@@finnrogue9435 Westerners calling other ppl's culture not advanced is downright condescending and racist. Their culture is different. Nothing to do with being advanced or not. It's because of how relationships are seen. But you can look that up yourself. Also ppl here in western culture also get mad over celebrities beefs and love lives too. It's just being mad for different reasons. Reality tv, gossip rags, social media, paparazzi, litteraly still exist bc they have high demand/watch rates. Every society has it's merits and demerits and is made of how it historically evolved. It's hypocritical at best to look down on how other society evolved when western society made advancements mainly by colonialism and coasting by and building countries on stolen resources and technological inventions of others.
He named himself as "Holland" because that's the first country to legalise same sex marriage. I was really surprised that neither Yumi or Jei didn't know about him. I thought he might be so popular. I got to know him as the first open gay idol. I mean he acted as the main character in korean BL drama called "Ocean likes me". He also did a cameo in the recent BL drama "Roommates of Poongduck 304" (as Ho Cheol - Seo Jaeyoon's friend). He even has a RUclips channel.
I've read a lot that international fans perceptions of how popular any idol or group might be in Korea doesn't usually match up with reality. From what I've heard, Koreans tend to lean towards solo ballad singers, they're not really that into pop music and Kpop is kind of brushed off to be for young kids and middle school kids. They also tend to really not know much about what goes on with the Kpop scene unless it's an artist under a Big 3 company and even then they might only know the group name or have heard a song or two and not know more.
Understand that Korean is a conservative country. Many are unsupportive of the community (of course, not the individuals in this video). So Holland and other LGBTQ+ people from the K-Pop community are often hindered. It is hard to gain fame and support. Being the “first” doesn’t mean you’ll gain fame easily.
@@hongjoongsbutterflyyes ur right Kpop fans in Korea are kids tens and young adults. Most young and mid adults however listen to Hiphop and R&B Older folks listen to trot singers and ballads.
You have the answer in your comment actually. They re not only fans of their music.. they re obsessed with these idols. They re possessive bc idols are « created » for them unfortunately. They way idols, dress, looks, act, everything is made up by their agency, it’s a persona. This is really unhealthy.
@@Solip_i like what is wrong with these fans. Why do they act like idols are their possession??? They can do whatever they like and fans have nthg to do with it
Fans invade their idols’ privacy because they want to feel a “closer connection” with them (like an obsessive stalker). The more they know about them, the more they feel “special” or “important” to their favorite idol. And when they date, they feel an inferiority complex. It’s also sad to realize agencies know this. They want idols to form a closer bond with their fans to gain money and fame more easily. That’s why they encourage building up a fanbase and leaking their privacy. It’s all dirty business.
I don't really care at all if an idol it's gay or if she has a girlfriend or she's married, the only things I worry about idols it's that they stay healthy (mentally and physically), their appearances in TV shows and YT series/videos and being able to create amazing music, that's all I need from them.
Which is how it should be, in my opinion. Actually i think a lot of idols would benefit from being in relationships because they can have someone to support and understand them. And it's sad that they have to give up their dreams of forming a family in order to be an artist.
@@crazyowlgirlcncowner exactly! And also, it's a bad thing for their life in general not to be able to date and have romantic or sexual relationships because that experience is important for their future too... I really feel bad for them and for the fans that hate when idols find someone they love...
Exactly, I mean we should all just be here for they're music and talents. Fans need to stop acting as if the idol is gonna marry or date because there's a really low (and I mean really low) chances of that happening. Just pay attention to your own life and appreciate their work as an artist 🤷♂️ You shouldn't care about their sexuality(because that's for them to know unless they want to announce/come out) and whatever just focus on the music they produce
@@Joziahwasright exactly. Of course you're gonna like some idols physically and also their personality, that is not the problem, we all are human and can feel attracted to anyone by his/her looks and personality (myself, for example, I can say that I completely love how Yunjin from Le Sserafim and Yuqi from (G)I-DLE are and of course I find them attractive), the problem starts when you become obsessed by them and become a jerk with them when they are dating someone... My point is: fall in love with whoever you want, that's something human and that can happen but please, if you really want them to be happy (as you always claim by being a fan), then show them your support and love when they marry someone or when they are dating someone, they chose that person for a reason and we have to support them and feel happy for them! 💪🏻✨ Same goes for when they say they are lesbian or gay, support them and feel proud of them by being able to say it out loud because we know how things still are in Korea about that subject.
@@elenasantoro2404 yeah they are getting better, but you still can’t walk down the street if you’re openly gay. holland actually got punched in the face earlier this year and got called a ‘dirty gay’ which was definitely targeted. korea is getting slightly better with more bl’s but that’s about it
@@elenasantoro2404 I mean, yeah that’s better in a way, cause it breaks some taboo’s, but let’s be honest, a lot of people also watch same sex relationship dramas cause they fetishize them, not exactly because they support the community. Like men with lesbians, or fans with gay shipping. A sickening amount of BL is about fetishizing and sexualizing gay relationships over actually representing them. I’m queer and I used to read/watch (mostly webtoons/ff) a lot of BL at first (cause it didn’t have misogyny), but like 90% are beyond toxic and so clearly sexualized/fetishized. I had to stop, it made me so mad. Pretty much the more abusive and unhealthy relationship was, the more popular story got (from my experience). So I just hope those shows will have a good representation, rather than another thing for audience to fantasize about (didn’t watch that many lately, so maybe they are good :))
You don't understand how fast i clicked on this video.... *I love you holland!!!!!!!* He's just such an inspiring artist when you really look in to his music and backstory. It's not easy being rejected by 15 companies just because of your sexuality and then saving up money to start a solo career with no help. I hope to see more of him on this channel.
I'm so happy that Holland go to go on giggle. He is such an amazing person and artist and I hope he gets the recognition he deserves. And thanks to Holland I had the courage to come out to my family as well ☺️🏳️🌈
He's so brave, so many men who are either out or closeted, I think it's nice to know that they have someone to look up to. Idols leave such a huge impression on people and he would for sure find people that relate.
i would love to hear his opinion on fanservice. how hetero idols act lovey-dovey with their fellow group mates just to get more famous. and how BL shows are famous yet an actual homosexual idol gets hate and abused. the fans are so two faced.... i saw his pretty recent tweet that he got beaten on the streets. poor man. he deserves the whole world and even more ❤️🩹 hang in there, Holland!!!!
"hetero" well you don't know if they are or not, if they come out they would left without career. And friends can act lovey-dovey with their friends too.
So so so soooo glad I discovered Holland in his debut days, such an inspiring, genuine human beeing and great artist, thanks for having him here 🙆🏼♀️💕
I'm from the Netherlands, but I didn't know that's why he called himself Holland. That's pretty cool. Also, little fun fact: Holland is actually just a small part of the Netherlands. There's two provinces called north and south Holland that are Holland together. Even though Holland is often used to refer to the Netherlands as a whole, in reality it's just a part of the country
I wish it would become more normal for idols to be people too. People that date and have different orientations etc. I'm so glad to see Holland here. Thank you for having him on this show. I truly hope he can one day be in any show he wishes to be on. I also hope he realizes that he is opening the way for others like him in the future. 💕
Alll my love and support for Holland ❤ It's a brave decision to make, to be out in an industry that doesn't support queer people. I hope he inpires others to be their fearlessly authentic selves! We need more proud LGBTQIA+ artists!
I super respect holland for paving the way for more people being able to come out in the future. Things always start small but i'm sure Korea can change too^^
i was there when holland debuted and i listened to his song and thought it was alright, i once followed him on instagram too. lately i saw him being friends with idols i know like yeri but haven’t seen his new song since debuted. its refreshing to see him here since i almost never see him anywhere.
So happy to see more of holland on youtube! he's been through so much but still shines with so much love, and his charming personality doesn't get enough appreciation
I am a Mexican fan of Holland, I love him very much, him as a person and his art as a singer and now as an actor, so as a person who lives on the other side of the world I feel a little sad that these people who live on his country do not recognize him (I know the reasons, I do not accept them, but I understand them) I wish they could see how he is loved around the world
Я уверена, что благодаря усилиям Холланда и других людей, однажды Корея и мир будут воспринимать айдолов как личностей и музыкантов, а не как статус "одинок/в отношениях" или "гетеро/квир". Музыка должна объединять и приносить удовольствие - это её главный критерий и музыка Холланда справляется с этим невероятно хорошо💙 Спасибо за выпуск!
I love Holland so much 😭❤️ he is such an icon both in fashion and music scene 💙❤️ I'm so proud for all the success he is having and the strength he has to fight against those who hurt him 🏳️🌈💙 I love you Holland I will always support you ❤️❤️
I see Holland on the thumbnail I click. This man deserves more recognition and the world!! I'm waiting for new music from him. I hope that Giggle invites OnlyOneOf too because they're very supportive of the LGBTQ community as well.
Love Holland, he’s so kind and courageous! He’s talented and I wish slowly more people from Korea will grow to know him and understand that he deserves respect and that the sexuality of an idol shouldn’t be an issue
No one after Seokcheon hyung? Now i'm thinking if Mrshll wasn't already on TV, but i think it was only RUclips things etc, not on national TV or so.. Anyways, props to Giggle. And the styling on Holland, I'd totaly wear that(if i had such figure xD)
several Kpop singers are gay and in huge famous groups. Many are depressed, suffer from loneliness and anxiety due to it. Sadly some have killed themselves. Due to SK's stance on gay rights they keep hidden. So sad and I hope one day SK will join the rest of the world on equality. As a fan your job is to listen to their music, watch their shows, buy their music and merch, stream. NOT dictate who they date and when. Not be up in their personal life. Only in Kpop do you see such and extreme interest in the personal lives of artist. In America when a singer dates we are happy for them and support them and if they break up we get mad at their ex with them lol
I didn't care about if idol is gay or lesbien ,they are dating or not ...something matters they should be happy and continue making music and people understand them..they are humans too💜
I knew about him beforehand but it's the first time I'm watching any content related to Holland and I really liked how he seems so confident and sure about himself and in his body :) assumed he would be as it takes that strength to be able to come out as an idol but to see it was very refreshing
My country is always associated with weed 😂 But it's so nice to see Holland getting more recognition! I've been a fan for years and I always brag about living in the country he got his name from 😌
OMG HOLLAND I LOVE HIM none of my KPopper friends ever mention him I'm so happy to see him I love him so much and I'm so happy he has a boyfriend he feels comfortable around he deserves the best ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤍💗💖💞💝💘🌸
I remember this young artist.... I left a comment about the MV *Neverland*. Beautiful song. It's wonderful to see how well Holland is doing in life & how far he continues to soar!!! My granddaughter was 13 yrs old when she told me that she was a lesbian, and how hard it was for her to come to me and open up. My only question to her was .... "Are YOU Happy" she said yes, and "that's all that matters... I will love her no matter who she is, what she chooses to be in life or what her sexual preferance is .... WHY? Because she is a Person that brings me joy, love, pride & above all happiness... shouldn't I, as her grandmother give her the same unconditional emotional support? YES.....!!! If you think otherwise... well, that is something that will rot slowly into your soul .. which is none of my concern.
Holland is so darned adorable and paving a way for so many in the LBGQTI+ community and the bravery it takes to do that in such a conservative country. I so look forward to seeing where his life and career takes him! 💜🦋
I think Holland is so great. Despite the difficulties he had. he was always open and honest and stands by it. Holland you're doing everything right. You're a great singer and entertainer. Just a wonderful person.Holland stay as you are. And don't let others tell you anything. I wish you a lot of love in your life and that you meet the right one. a big fan of yours. greetings from Germany🇩🇪
*HOLLAND* ♥ He looks great and he's such an amazing artist. All the best for him and his new projects. I love his new song and hopefully he'll have a new drama soon. I couldn't stop laughing when the girl in pink said: "Can all your organs fit in there?" 😉😀
It sadens me that not only are homosexuals still treated this way in Korea, what sadens me the most is, that the culture they live in teach them from youth that treating them like that is ok. This guy had a lot of curage to come out before debut and i admire him deeply. I wish more people would do this in a quest to normalize LGBT, because Korea must feel like prison for them in a way. I realy hope one day Korea join the club and realize that different sexuality is not a disease or political statement, but completely normal natural thing and people who hapen to be this way deserve the same amount of respect as anyone else. Human beings should never be judged by sexuality. I dont even understand how this is not self evident truth everywhere... I like so many things about Korea, but these social dogmas alone infuriateme. Its sad to see at times idols from Korea, who are obviously gay, to pretend something else all the time, wearing a mask of lies in a fear, that their true self image would end their career entirely.
i think with dating things, international fans are way more open about this because most countries used to that. in my country, celebrities dating are like public consuming things. they even makes money with that. but korea are not used to that to the point dating is considered a scandal. even more with idols especially these days. 4th gen idols can’t even interact because they’re afraid of rumors. its sad that we’re going down from where we used to be. 2nd~3rd gen idols even do ads together and participate in we got married. i really hope people stop thinking that having someone to love is a sin for idols
He always seems like a really cute human being, I hope he is as fine as can be in and with his life, like healthwise and all that stuff people have to boggle with being humans and Artists.
Holland's speaking voice is very pleasant. It was nice to see him get increasingly comfortable and natural as the video went on. He looked pretty stiff when he first came on, but very charming as it went on.
You're right to be worried about him getting hurt. Because he has been, and not just emotionally/verbally -- and not just in the distant past. I will always admire and respect him for his courage. He stands out there every single day being a magnet for hate and disdain and judgment (even more so than every other idol, because lbr, it's an innately toxic environment) while just trying to live his life being true to himself and making art. All while essentially on his own, without fellow queer idols standing alongside him to provide support or strength in numbers or a united front or even just a cushion against the hateful spotlight. Someday queer idols and other artists will be safe to be out, and I hope when that time finally comes, people will remember that Holland laid some of the very first pavers on that path. He takes the hits rn so later down the line, others won't have to. He shouldn't have to either, but the world can really suck sometimes.
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I will never understand this part of being worried/angry about a celebrity dating.
Otherwise, we're still behind the times when it comes to worrying about other people's sexuality.
Because of their culture.
The word idol is already weird to put on a human being.
These ppl are being fantasied about, that's what they sell.
Most of that public, is straight women.
When they find out the idol is gay or not single, it destroys that fantasy about being their crush/love interest.
And they are no longer desirable.
Some ppl even feel betrayed.
But it happens too if the image they sell publicly, for example being cutesy, gets exposed to be fake.
Ppl feel tricked.
Here in western culture a singer is admired about their music. ppl rather act betrayed if they change said music calling them sell outs.
Same with acting, ppl feel betrayed if a actor who has roles where they are often hero's and heartthrobs turn out to be grumpy or have completely different image of what they portrayed.
If you work in entertainment, you are a product and thus objectified and not seen as a person anymore.
Ppl in the entertainment industry gain alot of money but the expectations are astronomical.
Because their culture is socially not very advanced
They need to do better bc how does getting mad makes sense 💀
Everyone needs to drop the idea that you should judge their private life. As long as what they do is legal leave them alone.
@@finnrogue9435 Westerners calling other ppl's culture not advanced is downright condescending and racist.
Their culture is different. Nothing to do with being advanced or not.
It's because of how relationships are seen. But you can look that up yourself.
Also ppl here in western culture also get mad over celebrities beefs and love lives too.
It's just being mad for different reasons.
Reality tv, gossip rags, social media, paparazzi, litteraly still exist bc they have high demand/watch rates.
Every society has it's merits and demerits and is made of how it historically evolved.
It's hypocritical at best to look down on how other society evolved when western society made advancements mainly by colonialism and coasting by and building countries on stolen resources and technological inventions of others.
He named himself as "Holland" because that's the first country to legalise same sex marriage.
I was really surprised that neither Yumi or Jei didn't know about him.
I thought he might be so popular. I got to know him as the first open gay idol.
I mean he acted as the main character in korean BL drama called "Ocean likes me".
He also did a cameo in the recent BL drama "Roommates of Poongduck 304" (as Ho Cheol - Seo Jaeyoon's friend).
He even has a RUclips channel.
I've read a lot that international fans perceptions of how popular any idol or group might be in Korea doesn't usually match up with reality. From what I've heard, Koreans tend to lean towards solo ballad singers, they're not really that into pop music and Kpop is kind of brushed off to be for young kids and middle school kids. They also tend to really not know much about what goes on with the Kpop scene unless it's an artist under a Big 3 company and even then they might only know the group name or have heard a song or two and not know more.
Understand that Korean is a conservative country. Many are unsupportive of the community (of course, not the individuals in this video). So Holland and other LGBTQ+ people from the K-Pop community are often hindered. It is hard to gain fame and support. Being the “first” doesn’t mean you’ll gain fame easily.
He’s popular internationally but not much in Korea
@@hongjoongsbutterflyyes ur right Kpop fans in Korea are kids tens and young adults. Most young and mid adults however listen to Hiphop and R&B Older folks listen to trot singers and ballads.
he should have called himself Netherlands instead of Holland. holland is like two provinces of the Netherlands
I was so excited to see Holland! I'm so glad he's starting to get more popular. He really deserves it.
Yes he really does
Glad I stan him since 2019🥰
@@Threegreentails yes he can ur just jealous because u can’t even sing
@@Threegreentails He actually sings really well. Go be a hater somewhere else babe.
yes!! :)
Why should the sexuality of an idol matter to a fan? Like they are a fan because of the music. Why do fans try to invade the privacy of their idols?
You have the answer in your comment actually.
They re not only fans of their music.. they re obsessed with these idols.
They re possessive bc idols are « created » for them unfortunately.
They way idols, dress, looks, act, everything is made up by their agency, it’s a persona.
This is really unhealthy.
@@Solip_i like what is wrong with these fans. Why do they act like idols are their possession??? They can do whatever they like and fans have nthg to do with it
Ever heard of Selena Perez? A fan invaded her privacy and eventually killed her.
Fans invade their idols’ privacy because they want to feel a “closer connection” with them (like an obsessive stalker). The more they know about them, the more they feel “special” or “important” to their favorite idol. And when they date, they feel an inferiority complex. It’s also sad to realize agencies know this. They want idols to form a closer bond with their fans to gain money and fame more easily. That’s why they encourage building up a fanbase and leaking their privacy. It’s all dirty business.
Because I’m a country which still doesn’t provide protection for LGBTQIA, the representation of anyone gay in the media is severely needed
I don't really care at all if an idol it's gay or if she has a girlfriend or she's married, the only things I worry about idols it's that they stay healthy (mentally and physically), their appearances in TV shows and YT series/videos and being able to create amazing music, that's all I need from them.
Which is how it should be, in my opinion. Actually i think a lot of idols would benefit from being in relationships because they can have someone to support and understand them. And it's sad that they have to give up their dreams of forming a family in order to be an artist.
@@crazyowlgirlcncowner exactly! And also, it's a bad thing for their life in general not to be able to date and have romantic or sexual relationships because that experience is important for their future too... I really feel bad for them and for the fans that hate when idols find someone they love...
Exactly, I mean we should all just be here for they're music and talents. Fans need to stop acting as if the idol is gonna marry or date because there's a really low (and I mean really low) chances of that happening. Just pay attention to your own life and appreciate their work as an artist 🤷♂️ You shouldn't care about their sexuality(because that's for them to know unless they want to announce/come out) and whatever just focus on the music they produce
Totally agreed. Idols is not a possession or real boy friend.
@@Joziahwasright exactly. Of course you're gonna like some idols physically and also their personality, that is not the problem, we all are human and can feel attracted to anyone by his/her looks and personality (myself, for example, I can say that I completely love how Yunjin from Le Sserafim and Yuqi from (G)I-DLE are and of course I find them attractive), the problem starts when you become obsessed by them and become a jerk with them when they are dating someone... My point is: fall in love with whoever you want, that's something human and that can happen but please, if you really want them to be happy (as you always claim by being a fan), then show them your support and love when they marry someone or when they are dating someone, they chose that person for a reason and we have to support them and feel happy for them! 💪🏻✨ Same goes for when they say they are lesbian or gay, support them and feel proud of them by being able to say it out loud because we know how things still are in Korea about that subject.
I'm so happy that he is showing his true self. I hope Korea becomes more accepting of the LGBT community.
Period👏🏾👏🏾
I hope so too but, they’ve got a looooong waaay to go. 😐
@@localeboy808 actually they're getting really better, there are tv shows with gay datings and more bl dramas are incoming from korea
@@elenasantoro2404 yeah they are getting better, but you still can’t walk down the street if you’re openly gay. holland actually got punched in the face earlier this year and got called a ‘dirty gay’ which was definitely targeted. korea is getting slightly better with more bl’s but that’s about it
@@elenasantoro2404 I mean, yeah that’s better in a way, cause it breaks some taboo’s, but let’s be honest, a lot of people also watch same sex relationship dramas cause they fetishize them, not exactly because they support the community. Like men with lesbians, or fans with gay shipping. A sickening amount of BL is about fetishizing and sexualizing gay relationships over actually representing them. I’m queer and I used to read/watch (mostly webtoons/ff) a lot of BL at first (cause it didn’t have misogyny), but like 90% are beyond toxic and so clearly sexualized/fetishized. I had to stop, it made me so mad. Pretty much the more abusive and unhealthy relationship was, the more popular story got (from my experience). So I just hope those shows will have a good representation, rather than another thing for audience to fantasize about (didn’t watch that many lately, so maybe they are good :))
As a man from the LGBT+ community who listens to kpop sometimes, I was really happy to discover Holland. I'll look up at his projects
Yes you won’t regret it and pls also watch his debut BL drama Ocean likes me it’s really good
Also as a LyOn I think you’d love OnlyOneOf they’re all about the LGBTQ+ Community
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore agreed.
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore definitely yes
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore yess onlyoneof
You don't understand how fast i clicked on this video....
*I love you holland!!!!!!!*
He's just such an inspiring artist when you really look in to his music and backstory. It's not easy being rejected by 15 companies just because of your sexuality and then saving up money to start a solo career with no help.
I hope to see more of him on this channel.
Exactly! And he did such a great job in his first acting role too (BL- which is amazing as well). I love that he is breaking barriers.
@@qtshel68which drama?
@@Yoongisgurl7 ocean like me
@@qtshel68 thanks 💜
I'm so happy that Holland go to go on giggle. He is such an amazing person and artist and I hope he gets the recognition he deserves. And thanks to Holland I had the courage to come out to my family as well ☺️🏳️🌈
im very happy for you!! :D
holland is spreading a beautiful message all around, he needs more exposure!
@@gilnahnu thank you ☺️and that is so true 🥰
thats amazing for u congrats!!
@@jaemhos thank you ☺️
The thing is that he's not that good at singing. It's great that he was able to come out though
it’s surprising that Holland isn’t more famous in korea! i remember hearing about him right when i started listening to kpop. Holland fighting 💕💪🏻
Majority of the country does not listen to kpop. That’s probably why.
He's so brave, so many men who are either out or closeted, I think it's nice to know that they have someone to look up to. Idols leave such a huge impression on people and he would for sure find people that relate.
i would love to hear his opinion on fanservice. how hetero idols act lovey-dovey with their fellow group mates just to get more famous. and how BL shows are famous yet an actual homosexual idol gets hate and abused. the fans are so two faced.... i saw his pretty recent tweet that he got beaten on the streets. poor man. he deserves the whole world and even more ❤️🩹 hang in there, Holland!!!!
"hetero" well you don't know if they are or not, if they come out they would left without career. And friends can act lovey-dovey with their friends too.
His bravery is going to be such a step forward for more acceptance in South Korea! So proud of him and I hope he can achieve his goals and dreams ❤️
I believe you will make it Holland.
And reach that goal! Thanks for bringing him on the show ! He’s a true idol, rolemodel, and fashion icon 🤍
It is so good to see Holland being more and more recognized! He is so sweet and so brave!
What an uphill battle this beautiful and talented man has had to face and continues to face !
So so so soooo glad I discovered Holland in his debut days, such an inspiring, genuine human beeing and great artist, thanks for having him here 🙆🏼♀️💕
I really hope he finds more acceptance in Korea. His music is wonderful and he seems such a kind soul, I wish him so much success and happiness
I'm from the Netherlands, but I didn't know that's why he called himself Holland. That's pretty cool. Also, little fun fact: Holland is actually just a small part of the Netherlands. There's two provinces called north and south Holland that are Holland together. Even though Holland is often used to refer to the Netherlands as a whole, in reality it's just a part of the country
Holland is so brave!! I love him, thank you for everything you do for the community!! ,
I wish it would become more normal for idols to be people too. People that date and have different orientations etc. I'm so glad to see Holland here. Thank you for having him on this show. I truly hope he can one day be in any show he wishes to be on. I also hope he realizes that he is opening the way for others like him in the future. 💕
As he was talking about wounds, I remembered the incident that happened to him in Seoul when his first gay drama was airing.
Alll my love and support for Holland ❤
It's a brave decision to make, to be out in an industry that doesn't support queer people. I hope he inpires others to be their fearlessly authentic selves! We need more proud LGBTQIA+ artists!
As a Dutchie Im so happy he felt supported and/or empowered by our country ❤
i love how the whole comment section is very accepting & ain't toxic✨
I super respect holland for paving the way for more people being able to come out in the future. Things always start small but i'm sure Korea can change too^^
OMG, IT'S HOLLAND. I would cry if I met Holland, he's such a pure soul and I love him so much. I'm crying right now, gdi-
Sooo happy seeing Holland here, he’s amazing and deserves the best 🥰🥰
never heard about Holland but i'm a fan now bc he seems so sweet
Omg it's Holland!!! I love him and I love his music, I'm so happy to see him in a Giggle video!
Yumi:Does your all organs fit there...🤣🤣🤣
Is anyone not going to speak about his outfit, its on fire. 😍😍😍
He's so cute! His whole vibe and personality is just adorable! Goodness I can't! So cute!
i was there when holland debuted and i listened to his song and thought it was alright, i once followed him on instagram too. lately i saw him being friends with idols i know like yeri but haven’t seen his new song since debuted. its refreshing to see him here since i almost never see him anywhere.
I was so excited to see Holland on the show!!! Thank you Giggle!
oohhhhh my baby Holland!!! I was so excited to see your face here
You don't know how fast i clicked on the video, I was really exited to see Holland in the thumbnail, sending lots of love, keep fighting❤❤❤
So happy to see more of holland on youtube! he's been through so much but still shines with so much love, and his charming personality doesn't get enough appreciation
I didn't know about Holland....but now onwards I will support as much as I can. Holland, stay safe and healthy....be happy.
I am a Mexican fan of Holland, I love him very much, him as a person and his art as a singer and now as an actor, so as a person who lives on the other side of the world I feel a little sad that these people who live on his country do not recognize him (I know the reasons, I do not accept them, but I understand them) I wish they could see how he is loved around the world
Я уверена, что благодаря усилиям Холланда и других людей, однажды Корея и мир будут воспринимать айдолов как личностей и музыкантов, а не как статус "одинок/в отношениях" или "гетеро/квир". Музыка должна объединять и приносить удовольствие - это её главный критерий и музыка Холланда справляется с этим невероятно хорошо💙
Спасибо за выпуск!
I love Holland so much 😭❤️ he is such an icon both in fashion and music scene 💙❤️ I'm so proud for all the success he is having and the strength he has to fight against those who hurt him 🏳️🌈💙 I love you Holland I will always support you ❤️❤️
its so funny to me when people say they dont know of any gay idols. there are so many of them that THERE MUST BE SO MANY!!
Awww, he's such a cutiepie. Glad to see him here
I see Holland on the thumbnail I click. This man deserves more recognition and the world!! I'm waiting for new music from him. I hope that Giggle invites OnlyOneOf too because they're very supportive of the LGBTQ community as well.
OMG Holland X Giggle? the collab we never knew we needed, I love this so much!
The talk between Holland and the girls was really nice, I really like watching videos like this...
Love Holland, he’s so kind and courageous! He’s talented and I wish slowly more people from Korea will grow to know him and understand that he deserves respect and that the sexuality of an idol shouldn’t be an issue
No one after Seokcheon hyung? Now i'm thinking if Mrshll wasn't already on TV, but i think it was only RUclips things etc, not on national TV or so..
Anyways, props to Giggle. And the styling on Holland, I'd totaly wear that(if i had such figure xD)
Mrshll was on Show Me The Money as a ft. for Woo Won Jae, but I don't think he got more tv besides that unfortunately.
Холланд очень смелый и приятный парень
Желаю, чтобы у него всё в жизни было хорошо 🥺
several Kpop singers are gay and in huge famous groups. Many are depressed, suffer from loneliness and anxiety due to it. Sadly some have killed themselves. Due to SK's stance on gay rights they keep hidden. So sad and I hope one day SK will join the rest of the world on equality. As a fan your job is to listen to their music, watch their shows, buy their music and merch, stream. NOT dictate who they date and when. Not be up in their personal life. Only in Kpop do you see such and extreme interest in the personal lives of artist. In America when a singer dates we are happy for them and support them and if they break up we get mad at their ex with them lol
How do u know that
@@kkde9211 law of probability. very naive to think everyone is straight. that includes popular groups as well.
I didn't care about if idol is gay or lesbien ,they are dating or not ...something matters they should be happy and continue making music and people understand them..they are humans too💜
holland continues to inspire so many people i hope he’s always happy
I knew about him beforehand but it's the first time I'm watching any content related to Holland and I really liked how he seems so confident and sure about himself and in his body :) assumed he would be as it takes that strength to be able to come out as an idol but to see it was very refreshing
So happy for you Holland showing the true self of you. You deserve to be happy and love of all your fans💙
So happy for him. Hopefully Korea can eventually become more open minded and accepting 🫶🏻
I hope they accept muslims as they accept the lgbtq
AHHHHH IM SCREAMING MY FAV KPOP IDOL IS ON MY FAV YT CHANNEL
Oh, I’m surprised they haven’t heard of Holland as an artist. I’m not Korean but I heard of him and his music a couple years ago.
When I saw Holland here I was a bit nervous for how the guests would react but I’m happy to see that they were pretty accepting and respectful.
Way to go Holland! Wishing you good health, success and every happiness you deserve! 💗💗💗
I love him!! 😭❤️🏳️🌈
반복편집말고 교차편집이면 더재밌겠네요 인사하다 반이끝나네
I hate people getting mad at their idols dating (whoever). I mean. Their happiness should be your top priority. CMON.
I've been Harling since debut. I adore Holland so much and so proud of him!
I've heard of Holland, I didn't know that was him. He was so brave coming out before he debuted.
HEcking love Holland. Thanks for having him on Giggle~
Aghhhh I screamed when I saw him on the thumbnail!!
He has such a likeable personality! I’ll always root for you Holland!
Greetings from Holland 😉
Holland always makes me very happy and a bonus is that I'm from the Netherlands, so it's really cool that he named himself after us.
As a person who lives in the Netherlands, is a part of the LGBTQ+ community and listens Kpop, this video has a special place in my heart.
no matter what u r or how u r ... as long as u r talented .... u will haave a great life a head .... wishing u the best from indian EXO-l
My country is always associated with weed 😂 But it's so nice to see Holland getting more recognition! I've been a fan for years and I always brag about living in the country he got his name from 😌
OMG HOLLAND I LOVE HIM none of my KPopper friends ever mention him I'm so happy to see him I love him so much and I'm so happy he has a boyfriend he feels comfortable around he deserves the best ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤍💗💖💞💝💘🌸
i'm so happy to see Holland here 🥺💛
I was waiting so bad for a video like this with Holland! Lov u sm Holland! 🫂
The way koreans get upset when an idol is dating 💀 sick in the head fr
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I remember this young artist.... I left a comment about the MV *Neverland*. Beautiful song.
It's wonderful to see how well Holland is doing in life & how far he continues to soar!!!
My granddaughter was 13 yrs old when she told me that she was a lesbian, and how hard it was for her to come to me and open up. My only question to her was .... "Are YOU Happy" she said yes, and "that's all that matters... I will love her no matter who she is, what she chooses to be in life or what her sexual preferance is .... WHY? Because she is a Person that brings me joy, love, pride & above all happiness... shouldn't I, as her grandmother give her the same unconditional emotional support? YES.....!!! If you think otherwise... well, that is something that will rot slowly into your soul .. which is none of my concern.
you're an amazing grandmother!!
I'm so proud of you Holland you are the best
yaay Holland is the perfect person to be on here :) I hope lots of people see this and start liking his art :)
Holland is so darned adorable and paving a way for so many in the LBGQTI+ community and the bravery it takes to do that in such a conservative country. I so look forward to seeing where his life and career takes him! 💜🦋
When I saw the thumbnail suddenly I was like😮😮uriii holland? 😂Damn I'm so happy to see him here ❤️🥺
I hope he becomes famous af and conducts world wide concerts 😭😭😭 I definitely wanna go to his concerts
He really is an unique idol this is my first time hearing about him but I will definitely look up to his work.
Wow i saw holland in the Thumbnail and i literally clicked so fast
We love, cherish and respect you Holland!❤
I think Holland is so great. Despite the difficulties he had. he was always open and honest and stands by it.
Holland you're doing everything right. You're a great singer and entertainer. Just a wonderful person.Holland stay as you are. And don't let others tell you anything. I wish you a lot of love in your life and that you meet the right one.
a big fan of yours.
greetings from Germany🇩🇪
Holland became even more pretty. How is that even possible???
*HOLLAND* ♥
He looks great and he's such an amazing artist. All the best for him and his new projects. I love his new song and hopefully he'll have a new drama soon.
I couldn't stop laughing when the girl in pink said: "Can all your organs fit in there?" 😉😀
It sadens me that not only are homosexuals still treated this way in Korea, what sadens me the most is, that the culture they live in teach them from youth that treating them like that is ok. This guy had a lot of curage to come out before debut and i admire him deeply. I wish more people would do this in a quest to normalize LGBT, because Korea must feel like prison for them in a way. I realy hope one day Korea join the club and realize that different sexuality is not a disease or political statement, but completely normal natural thing and people who hapen to be this way deserve the same amount of respect as anyone else. Human beings should never be judged by sexuality. I dont even understand how this is not self evident truth everywhere... I like so many things about Korea, but these social dogmas alone infuriateme. Its sad to see at times idols from Korea, who are obviously gay, to pretend something else all the time, wearing a mask of lies in a fear, that their true self image would end their career entirely.
I love you, Holland! And the Giggle team, you are all the best 🤗🤗🤗. I hope there's a part two, because my gosh, blink and this video was over 😥
So happy for him fr… I knew him before he came out and seeing him getting bigger is so cool 😭
I couldn't stop smiling the whole time 😭 I love Holland sm
i think with dating things, international fans are way more open about this because most countries used to that. in my country, celebrities dating are like public consuming things. they even makes money with that. but korea are not used to that to the point dating is considered a scandal. even more with idols especially these days. 4th gen idols can’t even interact because they’re afraid of rumors. its sad that we’re going down from where we used to be. 2nd~3rd gen idols even do ads together and participate in we got married.
i really hope people stop thinking that having someone to love is a sin for idols
He always seems like a really cute human being, I hope he is as fine as can be in and with his life, like healthwise and all that stuff people have to boggle with being humans and Artists.
Holland's speaking voice is very pleasant. It was nice to see him get increasingly comfortable and natural as the video went on. He looked pretty stiff when he first came on, but very charming as it went on.
Estoy taan feliz por él, espero que pueda cumplir todas las metas que se proponga, se merece todo lo bonito en esta vida!
His outfit looked amazing!! Holland is a great person.
Hey Holland, NEW FAN ALERT! Looked you up, subscribed, and can’t wait to spend my next few days watching your videos!
You're right to be worried about him getting hurt. Because he has been, and not just emotionally/verbally -- and not just in the distant past.
I will always admire and respect him for his courage. He stands out there every single day being a magnet for hate and disdain and judgment (even more so than every other idol, because lbr, it's an innately toxic environment) while just trying to live his life being true to himself and making art. All while essentially on his own, without fellow queer idols standing alongside him to provide support or strength in numbers or a united front or even just a cushion against the hateful spotlight.
Someday queer idols and other artists will be safe to be out, and I hope when that time finally comes, people will remember that Holland laid some of the very first pavers on that path. He takes the hits rn so later down the line, others won't have to. He shouldn't have to either, but the world can really suck sometimes.
I remember he debuted around the time when txt my playlist would play txt tdc: dream chapter album and Holland nar c song 2019 spring was so pretty 💛