The Baintha Brakk (The Ogre) Disasters
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Baintha Brakk, otherwise known as "The Ogre" for its craggy appearence is one of the most dangerous and difficult mountains in the world to attempt to summit. Here are some of the stories of those who have perished on its unforgiving slopes.
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The nameless tower , I'll give it a name which reflects it's looks and climbing difficulties ,is now proclaimed ..
The Prick .
The big prat
I have gone down the mountaineering rabbit hole big time lately. Here's my recent reading list for anyone who is interested. Plenty of gut-wrenching stories similar to this channel.
Winter 8000 - Bernadette McDonald (History of Polish winter summits of all 8000ers)
K2 Life & Death - Ed Viesturs (History of K2 expeditions + personal experiences of author)
The Last Great Mountain - Mick Conefrey (History of Kangchenjunga & first summit)
The Will to Climb - Ed Viesturs (History of Annapurna expeditions + personal experiences of author)
Ghosts of K2 - Mick Conefrey (History of K2)
The Hunt for Mount Everest - Craig Storti (History of journey to climb Everest, more of a geopolitical book with little actual mountaineering)
Eiger Dreams - Jon Krakauer (collection of climbing and mountaineering essays)
Let me know if you have any recommendations and enjoy.
Thanks. Read Deadly Peaks for a great story on the Messner brother’s Nanga Parbat expedition.
I recommend trying mountaineering tbh, climbing is beautiful:)
Try “Archie’s Archives” the RUclips channel. Amazing lesser known stories (mainly from Russia) but all done very well.
I’ve heard and seen hundreds….but the documentary “into the void” sticks out as one of the best.
Thanks for the suggestions!!
Into Thin Air by John Krakauer (wrong spelling 😂). Is a good book about Everest
David Snow's channel has a ton of videos and documentaries on mountain climbing.
I am severely acrophobic, so naturally, I watch videos about people climbing mountains, and I just want you to know that I think your channel and videos are fascinating. Thank you for posting them.
You know it's serious when K2 and Annapurna are described as less dangerous mountains
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Indeed
hilarious
As tragic as these stories are, the beauty of the mountains holds me captive.
What Barbara said👍❤
I suspect we share that feeling with the climbers. Some people get that feeling and can’t shake it until they climb up there I guess.
Watching these videos is fine enough for me
Well said!👏
@@brianyobbz497
More than enough for me as well.
@@brianyobbz497 I'm just a novice, but there's an existential high about it, like your closer to the universe. Nothing else compares when you're atop a snowy peak and staring at the cloud sea below. It's dangerous, sure, but no one lives forever. Doing this stuff makes you appreciate what time you have left on this little rock we call Earth.
If I ever decide to fake my death, I’m heading to Pakistan to pretend to climb one of these mountains.😂
🙌🤣🤣🤣 you win the internet today!
Brilliant way to do it
brilliant tbh.... though maybe not the most famous/dangerous peaks if you've never shown interest in mountain climbing esp if you are going to pretend that you tried to climb by yourself and no one else was there cause there are climbing seasons and even if you go by yourself, different expeditions climbing at the same time would be witnessess of if they saw you there attempting to climb or not. There are trails accessible to even beginners around mount everest that you can go trek on your own that seem more realistic if mountain climbing wasn't part of your life before. You also can't use your passeport to travel anymore meaning you're going to have to either live there/around there (not a good idea if someone investigates the area) or most likely you'll have to travel under the radar to wherever you want to live
I think you could just go trekking in the Himalayas and 'not return'
Alaska is closer
If you liked this video, you should absolutely read “The Ogre” by Doug Scott.
This video was great, as I have come to expect from MM, but to be fair, it could have been at least an hour longer and would never have scratched the surface of this incredible mountaineering story.
The Ogre seems like a pretty sweet mountain that wins most of the time.
I root for the mountains to win.
just looking at the Ogre mountain noo way would I climb that mountain
I thought you said, "The Yogurt". Only scary for the lactose intolerant!
There are several hundred bodies of people on the slopes of Mt. Everest who at one time had been highly motivated individuals. Sometimes it is necessary to periodically reevaluate your goals.
The question that I have about people like this is how do they afford to do this?
Take 3 years off, travel halfway around the world with many thousands worth of equipment, hire half dozen guys to carry 8 months of supplies and gear into the deepest asscrack of the planet you can possibly find in the middle of winter. It does seem like an awfully great deal of sponsorship would be required, if you weren't independently wealthy.
I just work at Starbucks and live in a van lol I travel and climb mountains
Happy to have another video to watch
Babe wake up morbid midnight just posted again
@@ThreeEyedJack sorry you woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Do you need a cup of coffee and ear to listen too? Are you still too sad after your wife left you because you underperform and she lost interest in you years ago? Or is it the stick up your ass? I can’t tell?
@@ThreeEyedJack "hope you’re happy with your two second dopamine hit after the 20 people like your comment" What a buzzkill. You must be fun at parties...
@@ThreeEyedJack is that unoriginal? Or is some loser RUclips stranger in the comments complaining a little bit more unoriginal maybe?
@@ThreeEyedJackget over yourself
"...to an eventual outcome" is oddly melancholy
These elite mountaineers and other extreme sports athletes are basically insane people, imo.
Adrenalin is a hell of a drug.
Ppl are at risk just walking out their door, it’s a sport. All sports have some bodily risk. It’s not anymore insane than driving your car and speeding and ppl do that daily and aren’t seen as insane.
@@Chellz801 I'd say climbing up near vertical icy slopes at 25000+ feet in very remote places is quite a bit more insane than driving a car fast down the freeway.
@@Chellz801 Driving at speed doesn't cause your brain to swell or your lungs to fill with fluid. While driving fast you're not likely to have tens of thousands of tons of ice, rock and snow come crashing down on you. You also won't be blasted by 100 MPH winds at -40F in white-out conditions.
Unlike driving fast you can do everything right above 8,000 meters and it doesn't matter.
This cracked me up because I believe 100% this is the case. I believe there is something fundamentally different in their brain structure or genetics that reduces the human self-preservation instinct.
Drones, as in high-altitude search drones, would come in handy up there. I don't blame the Pakistani Army at all for saying "Nah" when asked for a heli search. These expeditions should be prepared themselves.
yeah you can’t go to a third world country and expect a perfect SAR team ready to help you out like in the Americas or Europe
they can’t afford services for their own people in that shithole let alone for tourists
Helicopters are expensive and precious commodities. Mountains come with turbulent winds curling over their peaks that are capable of slamming an aircraft into the ground at up to 200 mph, regardless of its otherwise "aerodynamic stability"... including the "prowess" of the pilot(s).
You SHOULD NOT "expect" such SAR teams to jump to the ready, even in Europe or America when you go off "Adventuring" into the wild places. That's the nature of ADVENTURE. You're largely on your own, and only going to get any rescue or search when we CAN get around to such. Other people may well need those resources for incidents and rescues that are NOT their own engineering or creation.
It's pretty friggin' childish to whine about it like you deserve instant rescue for having CHOSEN a sport that can get you instantly killed... or worse.
AND yes, there IS, most certainly, worse out there than dying. ;o)
@@fenianfinn I would expect richer countries to think twice as well, putting trained soldiers at risk for adrenaline junkies.
They didn’t say “nah”-
they said cash upfront.
There’s a difference.
There are rescue helicopters and teams for these mountains because climbers are the only industry in the region.
However,
they want payment-
up front. @ 9:02
People can quibble over things they don’t even understand but that’s the way things are.
Am I the only one that has no desire to climb these things?
Met Doug Scott once in Seattle, after his clime of Shishapangma. His speech brought the crowd to new heights...
Always a good night when MM posts a new vid.
You should have millions of followers, your voice, sound effects, research and care for the lives lost is just perfection. You're my favorite channel by far.
Could you do a video on the lives lost carving stone mountain in the states in Georgia? Those men were nuts and the tiny museum doesn't do their efforts any justice. I know it's a departure from climbing disasters from mother nature; but I think it's in the same vein. Even though you can climb it in less than 2 hours with very little effort.
You could do Mt. Rushmore too. But I think the granite potato in the south is lesser known and a kinda silly but fascinating story.
As well as a story from the Dahlonega gold mines where a miner got lost in one of the natural caves and was found within a week. But his eyes had adjusted to the darkness so much that he thought the lights of his saviors was angels coming to get him. I can't find it on Google, but maybe you'd have more luck.
I think the story of the man known as mostly harmless is someone worth covering too. But again all my suggestions aren't specifically mountaineering things so maybe not, would just love to hear your take on these places and the guy who was a John doe for about a decade.
I can’t get over how fast this video was narrated in comparison to your latest videos. 😂. You have really improved a lot over the past year!
I back again Morbid this is simply one of your BEST!!!!!!
I read an account of Doug Scott's and Chris Bonningtons on the Ogre, seems it was in the Boardman Tasker Omnibus
That is a good book, I read it recently.
Each wrote their own accounts, but I don't see anything in the Boardman Tasker Omnibus.
Thank you.
Thank you for uploading and bringing attention to what these people went through. Hopefully it brings awareness to people who venture out there doing this as a hobby.
Understanding of extreme sport and hobby before you venture is the first hill to climb safely .
Haha as if people are just casually climbing these mountains unaware
@@irvvalenzuen3135 no but people are walking into caves unaware. I know PLENTY of stories of individuals who have had absolutely no business going mountaineering and caused not only their own death but the death of others. So yes, people are going unaware because unfortunately money means more then common sense
Is there really a guy in one of the photos with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth?
Despite the grim outcomes of many of these searches following climbers going missing, their exploits are still, truly inspiring. Not enough for an old bastard like me to even think about such an attempt, but it's truly awesome that people still do this stuff when the weather permits such attempts. Chapeaux gentlemen.
Real climbing like this is a serious risk and reward. Your out there on your own unlike everest that is a fix line and guided congo line to the summit. This is real climbing and i can respect that. 🙏
How did the person with two broken legs get down? It’s not like you could crawl all the way down especially with two broken legs.
Is amazing what people can do when up against it.
u need to look up doug scott my friend, he crawled for a week i believe to get back to safety
He crawled on all fours. His clothes were ripped to shreds.
l dont get it.. The mountains are stunning but to climb them ....theres only rocks, and ice, and cold, and more rocks, and ice, and well ....YIKES! But what do l know? l'm just a 125 lb girl. Good videos and BRAVE men indeed!
You know better than to gratuitously die of exposure on the side of a mountain
None of these are tragedies.
Not one.
They made a purposeful choice, knowing they might die.
And they did.
They chose. Not the mountain.
Seriously
I agree with you. I’m not happy that people die or something, but taking such a big risk which then doesn’t work out cannot be described as a tragedy.
Very well said. They are adults, of age, to make free choices for whatever the reason. That’s is why I never feel bad after watching these. But always interested in the decision process.
Written like a true coward who will never achieve anything.
I asked for this!! Yay thank you!! I've wanted to know Chris and Doug's expedition story for so long.
When they finally made it down to base camp they realized they'd been left behind, assumed dead. Maybe you could do a video dedicated to that whole almost tragic expedition?
I subscribes. I've watched so many of these over the last 6 months I thought I already had subscribed. What a fuckin weird channel. And though creepy, the background music like totally fits your narrative and the story. Good job dude.
Thanks everyone for recommendations... i will take full advantage... God bless you all
A mountain with some less steep slopes will accumulate deeper snow before it avalanches. Thus the technically less challenging, less steep, mountain could be more dangerous.
Check out Manaslu 2022; climbers swept down on a slope of about 45°
I've done some crazy things in my time, but never risked losing my ears, hands and feet because I want to go up this way...
keep posting !
35k boy!! Good going!!!! 40k here we come!!!!!
I don't know what it is but the narrator just makes me fall asleep I can't focus on his voice it just sounds like background noise!
lol, I do watch the videos but I also use him as ASMR. I have insomnia and his voice/videos really helps me fall asleep.
Why do these types of people always take that next chance after the previous one was a warning? I suppose they don't see it that way but that mountain was telling them to go away and stay away ... or else!
Due recognition for Clive Rowland and Mo Anthoine's contribution to the successful ascent of the Ogre in 1977 should be given. Unfortunately no mention of their efforts and also their role in the rescue of both Doug Scott and Chris Bonnington. These two chaps would have had no chance of success were it not for Clive and Mo.
No mention made of Kyle Dempster and Hayden Kennedy's successful ascent from 2012?
thanks for the upload
That’s crazy that Ana purna and k2 are less difficult
At 1:51 you can see the face on the left. These massive mountains come from mega titans who died long ago. Most of the limestone and granite mountains come from the titan dragons, like the Appalachains Mts. and the North Canadian Rockies etc. They are all over the level Earth plane.
No my guy, that's fantasy. Please don't do drugs nor engage in wild fantasies nor get involved with occult deceptions.
Your nuts
@@AlexT-sy6nm Earth is not a spinning ball, and I don't worship baal at all. You got problems trying to tell me how to think fool.
Its notable that damn near every "victim" in these stories are much given to inserting the word "inspired" into every sentence -- reminding one of the role "toxic positivity" plays in these behaviour patterns, it being the most popular word in the vocabulary of the vapid seekers of meaning through incoherent positive gushing.
It is insane to me that people climb straight up that shit at 7:41 and if they were climbing up that face how are they still missing? Wouldn't they just be at the bottom?
4:10 pause turn phone and you can see the ogre 👹
I see 2 faces
i like this spooktalk and i subscribed to it
hey you... your loved brother thanks.
I suppose all one could hope for is that whatever happened to them, happened fast, so they didn't have to suffer.
They’re sacrifice was for the Great Dark Lord. It was Time and their Sacrifice satisfied the Dark Lord on that moment at that time. You will feel several bone tremors right before your own death when sacrificing your life to the Dark Lord either knowingly… or not knowingly. You will kindly surrender your life to Him.🕳👺
Crackpot dominkz, may I introduce you to nutjob mulder2400 upthread a bit.
Am I the only one who notices the dozens of gigantic bodies twisted and frozen into the mountains. Many mountain peaks are giant humans wrapped in blankets and hoods. Many seem to be climbing up to avoid a catastrophe.
Got to love the cigarette lol
Fascinating!!! Not in a million years, tho.
Crazy amazing.
Why should the Pakistani helicopters fly without being paid? You climb, you PAY for ALL your own rescues. Why should anyone else pay?
I’d bet the last two guys fell in a deep crevasse or got crushed or covered by a cirocc or avalanche but I’m guessing a large piece of falling ice is more than likely, if it’s big enough it would have covered them completely and leave no trace but you would think a piece of ice falling that big on a route might me noticeable but idk that mountain at all so I can’t make that assumption
a cigarette!
First!
Are you into guys, gals, both or neither? Need that info for my homework.
That’s too bad.
First the worst, and all.
Woah, that mountain ate them 😢
I would like to start mountaineering. But only mountains for novice climbers. Anyone know which ones are good to start? I do want to experience just a glimpse of what these ppl go thru.
Try K2. That's a pretty good starter mountain to climb for rookie novice first timers mountaineers to start out on. Piece of cake! Should have no troubles climbing it.
@@brandonsavitski lol I’ve seen enough mountaineering disaster videos to know I need to stay away from K2. And I meant a mountain in the USA with some form of snow. That has tracks, no crevices, only require basic equipment, and with a resort or something nearby for warmth and food.
@@brandonsavitski 🤣🤣
Depends where you live, but if you're in the US, West coast, you have plenty of options. Mt. Shasta via Avalanche Gulch is a great 14'r for beginners. Mt Whitney via the mountaineers route for beginner-intermediate is also a good pick.This goes without saying, but I would highly suggest taking a mountaineering course to learn the basics like self arresting, crampon use, harness and your simple rope knots, etc, before you even think of going. Non-climbers like to exaggerate, but they are right about it being a dangerous sport.
@@wilm2109 I never thought about taking a mountaineering course. Yea I think I should start there. So far I can hike about 5-6 miles into the woods and look down from a cliff on the mountain in optimal condition. But that’s different from snow mountains. I’m from South Cali. But live in Kentucky atm.
I got a nick name for that peak 0:37. The giant rooster
Does the guy on the end in the photo have a cigarette in his mouth? Upping the degree of difficulty!!!
if it made sense, ants and spiders would have done it easy long ago
@9:02 the Pakistani Army would not fly without money in hand 😢
Some heroes they are
Every good mountain has had multiple people die on it..
I thought the Eiger was The Ogre?
4th?! Lmao
That mountain looks whack
Second!
Very selfish these climbers can be
there is a book about this
RIP kyle and scott
2 broken legs and 2 broken ribs and still crawled his way back down. I feel like he's making everyone else look bad. This is a joke obviously.
I'm no mountain climber, but what's the point of a rope if it's like 200 feet long?
Edit: 6:42- WHAT is that? - I'm so done 🤣. These people are crazy.
A “typical crag rope” is around 70 meters / 230 ft.
These dudes were thousands of feet up…likely with > 500’ before a shelf.
They could likely whip the entire length of the rope, and still be swinging in space.
Plus…you can take in slack.
You don’t have to use the entire length if you don’t need it.
Your belay systems runs through the length…so you can use it as a 225’ rope…down to 20’. You just have to manage your excess rope properly.
6:42 is a utility cord used as a sling.
They’re typically around 7mm and can take around 10 kilonewtons of force...which is usually more than enough.
It’s not supposed to be an anchor.
It’s not load bearing.
It’s “fall protection” / “pro”.
You’re supposed to place it and continue climbing…and only use it in case of a fall.
However these dudes put in on ice.
Which…I’m told is….ok(?).
I don’t mess with ice.
For one thing…all the gear is way too expensive to start getting it all rusty and wet. LOL!
I need some screws…or at least a LOT more than a utility cord slipping over a knot…before I start picking ice.
To answer the "point" of a rope only being 200 feet long on some 20,000 or more feet of mountain, I'd suggest you go to a rope store and attempt to pack 20,000 feet or so of rope in YOUR backpack... See how that works out for you. I can wait.
Hell, go to the rope supply, and test-lift, or pack any other length you think is "more suitable". Maybe only 1000 feet? 500? Would you go the other "direction" and suggest we only ever take 50 feet or so?
No matter what length you carry, there's a balance between the bulk and weight involved and your range to "inch-worm" up a given slope. YOU ABSOLUTELY WILL BE INCH-WORMING. For longer ropes, you need more "rigging hardware" to stretch and support it out between stable places where you can gather the group and gear from one "Leg" of a climb to begin the next.
Shorter ropes seem like lighter loads, but also only reach so far, and there may not even BE any such "stable places" where you can get the group together with any hope of gathering gear to organize for the next "Leg" of the climb... SO you'll hopelessly imprison yourself into a cycle of gathering and trying to swap gear around the group and re-organize from one man on "point" to the next while dangling off the rigging in the middle of your "current" or "last" leg of the journey...
Remember, "Point Man" is the more labor intensive and exhausting position on the team per Leg. It's traditionally rotated around the group, so nobody has to completely exhaust himself or herself, over the course of 20,000 feet or more of mountain. This allows the whole group to mix their duties from relatively restful and "tagging along" through various levels of activity both mentally AND physically, AND allows even a relatively modest team-size to make more consistent gains over longer terms than trying to "go it alone". ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 I don't want to fall 200 feet anymore than 20 000- it's too long 🤣. Anything more than a hangman's rope is too much for me.
@@sendthis9480 Thank you. That was informative. Be careful out there- glad to hear you keep your stuff well maintained 😬. Still not sure about that glorified clothesline 😒, hopefully you'll never need to find out.
@@poutinedream5066 That's why we carry along various hardware anchoring the rope to the mountain along the way. The first "point man" up sets the anchors along the way at regular spans, and the last picks them up if at all possible.
SO even if you've got 200 feet of rope, not only are you connected to other members (depending on the style of climb and belay method) but you're anchored to the mountain about every 10 or 12 feet, again depending on the group's agreed upon spans and style.
Done properly, there's rarely an instance where you'd fall more than about 6 or 8 feet from any particular mishap.
AND lots of us stick to relatively "sane" climbs at much lower altitudes. This isn't a sport where you normally just get up one morning and decide to conquer K2 or Everest... It starts with hiking and rock climbing, and then some adventures learning on belay and rapelling... AND some folks just get fascinated with that sort of "weekender fun"... Others eventually get bored and move on to bigger and grander ideals.
...AND some of us have a mischief streak that absolutely forces us to respond to innocent questions facetiously... ;o)
"Depending on WHOM you ask" would be correct. You ask HIM (not "he"). Whom/him who/he.
Just a picture of a climber hanging on to the side of a mountain makes my belly flip and my knee's go weak, I would literally rather crawl in a crevice wait to die than have to move 1 more inch on a rockface! Very brave people. RIP
😁👍👊💪🍻
👍🐿
RIP Scott. You will forever live on. NWS!!
Anyone with half a working brain can see this mountain is way beyond dangerous.
K2 a less dangerous peak ... ROFL
Two more Darwin Award winners!
I’d love to clime the Eiger one day ☺️
Ah wrong mountain, anyway
I climbed the Eiger blind folded while naked without any gear during the winter time during the worst weather possible just to ramp up the difficulty.
Given that they were American, I'm sure this is an insurance fraud case
5th...Lol
Idk how dyslexia did it but i saw "Barack Obama" in the title
Thank g*d these Guys had the Balls to Try Get to the Top.
Respect.
I chugged down 16 beers in a 3 hour time period the other day.
@@brandonsavitski That Too, is a Sign of the Times...
This guy Fs
mr monotone is back
Oh hell, our narrator has a great voice. I genuinely like it. He sounds like he's dying right along with the protagonists. No sarcasm, two thumbs way way up. I am seriously considering becoming a patreon, which I never do.
I can’t stand the narration.
At what point do people decide enough is enough and it’s time to turn back.
That's THE personal question. No matter the public prescriptions and "sensible guidelines" for any sport, Risk Assessment is a personal judgment made by the individual and based on that individual's training, experience, and skill-set as he or she has developed...
There are some, a niche few "self designated elitists" to whom the ONLY outcomes are "The Summit" and "Death".
SO you make YOUR OWN DESTINY in this kind of sport... and there are many such sports just like it. If you'd rather die than admit defeat, that's as personal a decision as whether you'd rather risk your life at all for the excitement or stay in the house, under the bed, wrapped in bubble-wrap and duck tape, and all safe and snug...
You only get the life you live, and it's only going to last so long. In the waning years, there will be two things in great supply. The stories about all the things you did, and the Regrets about all the things you didn't do. YOU have to balance that for yourself, and nobody else is going to deal with the consequences of it for you. ;o)
People have got a jealous about reaching to the summit
@@donald190 this is fair. Like I guess considering I live in Kansas and don’t climb mountains, I don’t understand why the pride can’t be because of the journey itself. And not to be the first.
I’m a fat midwesterner so climbing a hill is enough for me. Thank you both for explaining.
@@yourlonglostbeachball Where in Kansas do you live by chance?
@@brandonsavitski a place called Barton county. In that general area lol.
"Pokiston".....
Barack Obama pronounces it:
Pac Eh Stahn
The ogre conquered them.