The PHEV in 4WD lock will go up your test slope easy, with ESP OFF. When struggling for traction off road in '4WD lock' always turn ESP OFF👍 Chadmo is a good Japanese system because it offers bi directional charging !? That is It will power your house or off-grid camp from the 80kw engine driven generator /13KW battery. The mitsi PHEV when stationery in charge mode is very fuel efficient and quite, better than most generators 🙄 The Mitsi PHEV 4WD power train is bomb proof and very reliable ,You will find similar engine driven electric generator systems in the World's heaviest locomotives and industrial plant ( dump trucks, heavy cranes etc ). The Mitsi phev is still the only PHEV with engine driven 80 KW electric generator . I'm so impressed with the bomb proof reliability of my 1st 2014 PHEV it has done over 190K trouble free miles , 55% which has been hard towing everywhere. I have bought a 2nd Mitsi PHEV 😎
i bought an MY20 second-hand and love it. I'm 172 cm tall and find the driver's seat to be excellent, especially the electric lumbar support. Much better than a Mazda CX-5's seat. I don't find the steering to be too light, or the adjustment to be a problem - I moved it up & down, I didn't even realised it pulled in & out!
I have an outlander PHEV, and I would exchange the Chademo by a 7,4KW onboard charger. No one, that I know charges the PHEV in a rapid chager. I did it once in my life just to test it. However having a 7.4kW onboard charger would mean that we can charge the car in 2h in a shopping mall, etc. This is my 2 cents for the debate.
It's not economic in highway, having consumptions around 8l/100km. However after 180000km my global fuel consumption is 2.4l/100km... which is amazing, because the daily consumptions are between 0 an 1L. I will only swap my outlander per one 100% electric (familiar).
I totally agree with you that 7.4 kW onboard charger instead of DC charging option would have been a better solution. However, that is probably cost based, because DC charging does not need a charger to be onboard the car, so it cost less to install it as compared to 7.4 kW AC charger, which is integrated to the car.
Hi Marek. I'm in US. I have a 2018 GT, which is 12 KW/h battery and 2.0 ICE. I really like this car, actually, my 4th. Mitsu. I still have a IMIEV with 110.000 miles, which still a pretty good small commuter car, which pays for itself. I don't agree with you on the "Gas Guzzler " situation. Near home and for commutes, I never use gas. For trips, 38/40 MPG (16.9 KM/l or 5.9 l/100km) on ~75 MPH ( ~120KM/H), which I think it is great for a fully loaded (4 people + luggage) 4WD SUV/CUV . So, no stupid range anxiety !!!! The 4WD system works pretty good on snow, sand, etc... You just need to know how to use, which seems you are learning still. Also, a bit on the comic/ridiculous side your review on the trunk/boot. You are not a good runner, BTW!!!!! Who cares if you run to get the front door?? The closing time is similar to other cars !! Give me a break!!! Summary: Pretty good car, very economical, comfortable, very good substitute for our Chevy Volt, which was another great vehicle. Try to be a bit less bias on the next review!! Cheers,
1. Perhaps I wasn't clear here: on Polish motorways the speed limit is 140 km/h, and at that speed with the tiny fuel tank I was really struggling. 2. In another PHEV - Opel Grandland X Hybrid4 (which is also a Peugeot 3008) the tailgate closes in 5-6 seconds. And that's the standard in most cars. I did the comic run thing, but I didn't have to. The other day I managed to walk, and drive off, while the tailgate was still closing. 3. In a review I present facts, and my opinions. Opinions are formulated on facts, but are biased by definition. For example IMO the IMiEV and the Volt were crap.
I've had a 535XI and my wife had an I3, I've bought last year SEL PHEV and we've trade it in my wife's I3 for a GT PHEV, I must say all my life I've driven only BMW and I really like this car. We have a car charger at home and I get about 1200miles between filling up a tank which is about 10 gallons. I do wish electrical battery was better. But so far it's been a good car to drive if you have a family and don't want to pay much for the gas.
The CHAdeMO fast charging speed depends on battery size. It is a technical limitation. If you would charge the battery quicker, you will damage it. The Outlander PHEV is probably the only PHEV in the world which has a fast charger which would make it superior over any other car in this category, not inferior which you have inferred because it cannot do impossible, e.g. to increase charging speed. Moreover, the 22 kW charging speed translates to probably the fastest charging speed compared to most of other cars in the market which has a fast charging capability. This is because the charging speed is not measured in km_of_range/min, but rather %_of_battery_capacity/min. The full pack of battery can be safely charged in 30 minutes regardless of its size, so how many km of range you will get will depend only on how big is your battery pack. If you had a battery pack of 5 kWh, then you can charge it at max speed which is 5 kWh in 30 minutes. If your battery is 12 kWh, then you can charge it at max speed which is 12 kWh in 30 minutes. The 30 minutes is an approximate number which may vary slightly, but if you will go faster, you will do it at a cost of extensive battery wear and for this to happen you must have a better battery cooling system in place. Since Outlander PHEV battery is cooled by air, it cannot do that. If you measure the battery in kWh, and a normal fast charge session is ~30 minutes = 1/2 hours, then the maximum allowed charging speed will translate into battery_pack_in_kWh * 2. To show you an example how this works on real cars lets look at some EVs/PHEVs: - Outlander PHEV 11 kWh battery (usable), 80% charge takes 32 min. Actual charging speed is 2.5%/min (uses up to 22 kW charging, theoretical max is 11*2=22 kW) - Nissan Leaf e+ 56 kWh battery (usable), 80% charge takes 35 min. Actual charging speed is 2.3%/min (uses up to 100 kW charging, theoretical max is 56*2=112 kW ) -> charges slower than Outlander PHEV, even though you get more range in the same time which will be proportional to the battery size. - Lexus UX 300e 52 kWh battery (usable), 80% charge takes 57 min. Actual charging speed is 1.5 %/min (uses up to 50 kW charging, theoretical max is 52*2=104 kW) -> charges ~1.5x slower than Outlander PHEV, because the charging speed is limited by manufacturer, but if the speed was not limited it could potentially use 100 kW charging, because the battery size allows for such charging speed. Note, the examples are simplified to show how this works and the numbers are not very accurate. The usable battery capacity, charging time and charging speed for those 3 cars are from ev-database.uk.
@@MarekDrives Your opinion about faster (e.g. 7.4 kW) AC on-board charger which could have been added to Outlander PHEV is a good argument and I totally agree with you. There is no technical limit to do this, except the price of more expensive charger and maybe also because they are going to release the new Outlander PHEV soon which will probably have such charger. Since it is just a face-lift version, it is not essential to add the newest tech. The most recent version you have tested already have many serious improvements like bigger battery, a new engine, more powerful electric motors, etc. However, when you talk about the fast DC charging, then it cannot go beyond 22 kW, because this is the max limit which comes from the battery size as I have tried to explain in my previous comment. The Outlander PHEV was released in 2013 which makes it 7 years old car, but the new Mercedes A250e PHEV is a fresh car, with a similar size battery (compared to Outlander PHEV) and still has the max 22 kW DC (CCS) charging capability. That just proves my point about the max limit you can use for quick charging.
@dkx I know it's an old car, but this is its second facelift. But OK, a facelift nonetheless. I know there's a charging speed curve, which IMO renders the whole fast charging business in PHEVs useless. OK -- denser batteries, faster on-board chargers make the already expensive car even more expensive. Perhaps it tells us something about its viability.
I really like your review. I've been interested in the Outlander PHEV for a while and have watched many reviews. Many reviews don't outline the quirks with the design of the car. I feel like the PHEV is a fantastic idea that has been haphazardly put together. The steering, the buttons all over the place, the spot where the key would go in lesser models, the red led climate control display from an 80's VCR, and the dated infotainment system really let down what could otherwise be a great car. I've also seen talk of people only getting 20-30km of range in cold weather or after a few years of battery degradation. For me though, the seat issue and lack of steering adjustment would be the absolute deal breaker for me. I do many kilometres per year and I couldn't live with not being able to setup my seat comfortably. Also not being able to lock the charger is another deal breaker. I'm really hoping Mitsubishi actually takes the time to address these issues in the 2021 redesign. I would love to see 70-80km of range in the 2021 PHEV as well. If they address all these things I will buy one in a heartbeat. Until that time there are plenty of other ecomonical petrol and diesel mid size SUV's around which are a bit more refined.
Thanks for your comment. If you drive a lot, PHEV may not be the right car for you. They are really designed mainly for short to medium driving, with an occasional longer trip. I agree 70-80 km should be plenty for most to offset the higher price.
Great review, Marek. I own a 2014 one and I think you nailed all pros and cons. The AWD system suffers of limited torque, because the gear ratio between motor and differential is fixed, so when the brake engages to stop the spinning wheel you are left with very little torque. The way buttons are spread on the dashboard is beyond tragic. I also agree with the seating position. Anyway those are minor problems, I really like the concept. Pity Mitsubishi didn't invest more to maintain the leadership in the PHEV segment. 14kWh today are easily found in other cars with way better interiors. I think my next car will be a full electric.
The software controlling the inverters limits the torque output of the two 60KW motors ( it's set up for reliability and economy) , a simple reprogramming of this software can enable the inverters to yield much greater power that can smoke the tyres and accelerate 40-60 % faster , great fun for offroad rallying, but not recommended because it destroys the batteries long life 😬
@@markotrieste Modern Electric vehicles are the most significant shift in automotive technology since the creation of the automobile , this is partially due to due to less mechanical components involved in there build eg. complex limited slip diffs etc 🙄
It is unbelievable economical car. I did not use a drop of fuel in last 1200km! When you do the short runs mainly it is basically an electric car. When I do some longer trips and some traveling mixed with charging and everyday driving I end up with the average fuel consumption of 4L/100 on a full tank. Pretty descent for a 1.9tonnes. Especially when mine is lifted by 3cm. I added also bigger 225/75r16 AllTerrain tires :) Just yesterday I found out that surprisingly in the *Series Hybrid* mode at higher speeds than 70km/h (SPORT mode must be engaged), average fuel consumption is just 4.5L/5.5L within speed limit here in Iceland which is 90km/h. In *Series Hybrid* mode the Power Generator Unit constantly top up the batteries which powers the twin electric motors. (2.4L engine is omitted). Similar situation like with new Nissan ePower technology. When driving the same speeds up to 90km/h in the *Parallel Hybrid* mode when the 2.4L engine is engaged my fuel consumption is around 8/10L. So my monthly fuel costs will go down even more when I will start using my discovery :)
I drove three of these over the years, and AFAIR changes are cosmetic. The biggest difference is between the 2012 and 2015 facelift, because the car got a new fascia. Otherwise it's mostly the same.
@@MarekDrives This or the passat estate gte? Which would you choose for which purpose? Will the passat be as good of road with 48mm lift kit as the outlander? What are the main differences, easier to use, overall more pleasant to own? In my country both are the same price on the used market. Also, is it noticably slower than the passat?
Thanks Marek, i was actually thinking of buying this one. now not too sure. Do u think its worth buying hybrid highlander instead? More money and no plug in..
It would be a great choice if it would have a 20-25kWh battery, two 100kW motors (with real AWD lock), and a small compact turbo engine acting just as a motorgenerator, that would create space for a frunk as well. And sadly enough, all of it would cost to them nothing more than 5k over the petrol version.
I have bought my Outlander PHEV on purpose that it does not have a turbo engine. Add a turbo to the engine and you can say bye-bye to your car's reliability. The Outlander PHEV has a very reliable atmospheric engine and following many Outlander PHEV forums I have read only about a single case in 5 years when engine failed which was also because of neglect (not changing oil). That does not mean that I know about all cases and I believe there are some more than 1, but if you go to VW forums and read about their turbo engines, then the number of failures are incomparably higher.
@@dkostasx I don't know how much it would affect reliability since in this case the motor doesn't have to drive the wheels so it could really be optimized to work at the optimal RPM to not destroy the turbo. Most of the issues turbo cars have is that people drive them under their optimal rpm in urban traffic. But here that would not be an issue since it's a generator and needs to run at a steady constant rpm.
Seems I drove this 2.4 l engine yet 15 tears ago.....Very possible Mitsubishi Motors would filed for bankruptcy soon... P.S. Early today watching RAV-4 PHEV' review form USA....... Another Universe...
You are missing in your review the fact that this car loses the acceleration when is going up hills for more than 10 miles since the cell battery gets depleted and at that point, the fan stop working and gets overheated. Did you try to go up hills in this car for more than 10 miles?
Some design features (only tilt adujstable steering wheel) look like they would fit 90s or 80s car. Another example how manufacturers add names or so called experience from legendary models like Eclipse, Evo X to rather simple car like 7 seat SUV.
Wow, I don't even want to look at those buttons while their are on the screen, so cheap and flimsy. I imagine how terrible they are to the touch in real life...
Bleurghhhh yuck. Always thought these looked awkward, watching this and trying to have a balanced view. It’s still a not an appealing car (to me, may suit others of course).
I love the Outlander. It's like a massive, comfortable go-anywhere-wagon with great tech and low cost.
Yeah it's just a tall wagen with big ground clearance. You could love it or hate it. I would love it a little wider.
The PHEV in 4WD lock will go up your test slope easy, with ESP OFF.
When struggling for traction off road in '4WD lock' always turn ESP OFF👍
Chadmo is a good Japanese system because it offers bi directional charging !?
That is It will power your house or off-grid camp from the 80kw engine driven generator /13KW battery. The mitsi PHEV when stationery in charge mode is very fuel efficient and quite, better than most generators 🙄
The Mitsi PHEV 4WD power train is bomb proof and very reliable ,You will find similar engine driven electric generator systems in the World's heaviest locomotives and industrial plant ( dump trucks, heavy cranes etc ).
The Mitsi phev is still the only PHEV with engine driven 80 KW electric generator .
I'm so impressed with the bomb proof reliability of my 1st 2014 PHEV it has done over 190K trouble free miles , 55% which has been hard towing everywhere.
I have bought a 2nd Mitsi PHEV 😎
We loved our 2 weeks with it driving all over UK and Scotland few years back.. Bigger battery needed to stay competitive
Hehe, I had my doubt's about this car , and you put the light on just that , so Thank U Marek 😉👍
My pleasure 😊
Marek Drives 🤣😘👍
i bought an MY20 second-hand and love it. I'm 172 cm tall and find the driver's seat to be excellent, especially the electric lumbar support. Much better than a Mazda CX-5's seat. I don't find the steering to be too light, or the adjustment to be a problem - I moved it up & down, I didn't even realised it pulled in & out!
I have an outlander PHEV, and I would exchange the Chademo by a 7,4KW onboard charger. No one, that I know charges the PHEV in a rapid chager. I did it once in my life just to test it. However having a 7.4kW onboard charger would mean that we can charge the car in 2h in a shopping mall, etc. This is my 2 cents for the debate.
It's not economic in highway, having consumptions around 8l/100km. However after 180000km my global fuel consumption is 2.4l/100km... which is amazing, because the daily consumptions are between 0 an 1L. I will only swap my outlander per one 100% electric (familiar).
I do charge with Cademo sometimes. However I agree that 7.4 kW onboard charger is necessary.
@@Sebastianlx Same with me. As long as highway journeys are rare, this car is better than any diesel.
I totally agree with you that 7.4 kW onboard charger instead of DC charging option would have been a better solution. However, that is probably cost based, because DC charging does not need a charger to be onboard the car, so it cost less to install it as compared to 7.4 kW AC charger, which is integrated to the car.
Hi Marek. I'm in US. I have a 2018 GT, which is 12 KW/h battery and 2.0 ICE. I really like this car, actually, my 4th. Mitsu. I still have a IMIEV with 110.000 miles, which still a pretty good small commuter car, which pays for itself.
I don't agree with you on the "Gas Guzzler " situation. Near home and for commutes, I never use gas. For trips, 38/40 MPG (16.9 KM/l or 5.9 l/100km) on ~75 MPH ( ~120KM/H), which I think it is great for a fully loaded (4 people + luggage) 4WD SUV/CUV . So, no stupid range anxiety !!!!
The 4WD system works pretty good on snow, sand, etc... You just need to know how to use, which seems you are learning still.
Also, a bit on the comic/ridiculous side your review on the trunk/boot. You are not a good runner, BTW!!!!! Who cares if you run to get the front door?? The closing time is similar to other cars !! Give me a break!!!
Summary: Pretty good car, very economical, comfortable, very good substitute for our Chevy Volt, which was another great vehicle.
Try to be a bit less bias on the next review!!
Cheers,
1. Perhaps I wasn't clear here: on Polish motorways the speed limit is 140 km/h, and at that speed with the tiny fuel tank I was really struggling.
2. In another PHEV - Opel Grandland X Hybrid4 (which is also a Peugeot 3008) the tailgate closes in 5-6 seconds. And that's the standard in most cars. I did the comic run thing, but I didn't have to. The other day I managed to walk, and drive off, while the tailgate was still closing.
3. In a review I present facts, and my opinions. Opinions are formulated on facts, but are biased by definition.
For example IMO the IMiEV and the Volt were crap.
I've had a 535XI and my wife had an I3, I've bought last year SEL PHEV and we've trade it in my wife's I3 for a GT PHEV, I must say all my life I've driven only BMW and I really like this car. We have a car charger at home and I get about 1200miles between filling up a tank which is about 10 gallons. I do wish electrical battery was better. But so far it's been a good car to drive if you have a family and don't want to pay much for the gas.
The CHAdeMO fast charging speed depends on battery size. It is a technical limitation. If you would charge the battery quicker, you will damage it. The Outlander PHEV is probably the only PHEV in the world which has a fast charger which would make it superior over any other car in this category, not inferior which you have inferred because it cannot do impossible, e.g. to increase charging speed.
Moreover, the 22 kW charging speed translates to probably the fastest charging speed compared to most of other cars in the market which has a fast charging capability. This is because the charging speed is not measured in km_of_range/min, but rather %_of_battery_capacity/min. The full pack of battery can be safely charged in 30 minutes regardless of its size, so how many km of range you will get will depend only on how big is your battery pack. If you had a battery pack of 5 kWh, then you can charge it at max speed which is 5 kWh in 30 minutes. If your battery is 12 kWh, then you can charge it at max speed which is 12 kWh in 30 minutes. The 30 minutes is an approximate number which may vary slightly, but if you will go faster, you will do it at a cost of extensive battery wear and for this to happen you must have a better battery cooling system in place. Since Outlander PHEV battery is cooled by air, it cannot do that.
If you measure the battery in kWh, and a normal fast charge session is ~30 minutes = 1/2 hours, then the maximum allowed charging speed will translate into battery_pack_in_kWh * 2.
To show you an example how this works on real cars lets look at some EVs/PHEVs:
- Outlander PHEV 11 kWh battery (usable), 80% charge takes 32 min. Actual charging speed is 2.5%/min (uses up to 22 kW charging, theoretical max is 11*2=22 kW)
- Nissan Leaf e+ 56 kWh battery (usable), 80% charge takes 35 min. Actual charging speed is 2.3%/min (uses up to 100 kW charging, theoretical max is 56*2=112 kW ) -> charges slower than Outlander PHEV, even though you get more range in the same time which will be proportional to the battery size.
- Lexus UX 300e 52 kWh battery (usable), 80% charge takes 57 min. Actual charging speed is 1.5 %/min (uses up to 50 kW charging, theoretical max is 52*2=104 kW) -> charges ~1.5x slower than Outlander PHEV, because the charging speed is limited by manufacturer, but if the speed was not limited it could potentially use 100 kW charging, because the battery size allows for such charging speed.
Note, the examples are simplified to show how this works and the numbers are not very accurate. The usable battery capacity, charging time and charging speed for those 3 cars are from ev-database.uk.
The new A250e has 22kW CCS charging capability (besides a 7.4 kW on-board charger), and I still don't see the point.
@@MarekDrives Your opinion about faster (e.g. 7.4 kW) AC on-board charger which could have been added to Outlander PHEV is a good argument and I totally agree with you. There is no technical limit to do this, except the price of more expensive charger and maybe also because they are going to release the new Outlander PHEV soon which will probably have such charger. Since it is just a face-lift version, it is not essential to add the newest tech. The most recent version you have tested already have many serious improvements like bigger battery, a new engine, more powerful electric motors, etc.
However, when you talk about the fast DC charging, then it cannot go beyond 22 kW, because this is the max limit which comes from the battery size as I have tried to explain in my previous comment. The Outlander PHEV was released in 2013 which makes it 7 years old car, but the new Mercedes A250e PHEV is a fresh car, with a similar size battery (compared to Outlander PHEV) and still has the max 22 kW DC (CCS) charging capability. That just proves my point about the max limit you can use for quick charging.
@dkx I know it's an old car, but this is its second facelift. But OK, a facelift nonetheless.
I know there's a charging speed curve, which IMO renders the whole fast charging business in PHEVs useless. OK -- denser batteries, faster on-board chargers make the already expensive car even more expensive. Perhaps it tells us something about its viability.
I really like your review. I've been interested in the Outlander PHEV for a while and have watched many reviews. Many reviews don't outline the quirks with the design of the car. I feel like the PHEV is a fantastic idea that has been haphazardly put together. The steering, the buttons all over the place, the spot where the key would go in lesser models, the red led climate control display from an 80's VCR, and the dated infotainment system really let down what could otherwise be a great car. I've also seen talk of people only getting 20-30km of range in cold weather or after a few years of battery degradation. For me though, the seat issue and lack of steering adjustment would be the absolute deal breaker for me. I do many kilometres per year and I couldn't live with not being able to setup my seat comfortably. Also not being able to lock the charger is another deal breaker. I'm really hoping Mitsubishi actually takes the time to address these issues in the 2021 redesign. I would love to see 70-80km of range in the 2021 PHEV as well. If they address all these things I will buy one in a heartbeat. Until that time there are plenty of other ecomonical petrol and diesel mid size SUV's around which are a bit more refined.
Thanks for your comment. If you drive a lot, PHEV may not be the right car for you. They are really designed mainly for short to medium driving, with an occasional longer trip. I agree 70-80 km should be plenty for most to offset the higher price.
Outlander PHEV pretty much saved Mitsubishi in North America. Eclipse Cross isn't a hot seller and the RVR/ASX/Outlander Sport is really old.
Great review, Marek. I own a 2014 one and I think you nailed all pros and cons. The AWD system suffers of limited torque, because the gear ratio between motor and differential is fixed, so when the brake engages to stop the spinning wheel you are left with very little torque. The way buttons are spread on the dashboard is beyond tragic. I also agree with the seating position. Anyway those are minor problems, I really like the concept. Pity Mitsubishi didn't invest more to maintain the leadership in the PHEV segment. 14kWh today are easily found in other cars with way better interiors. I think my next car will be a full electric.
The software controlling the inverters limits the torque output of the two 60KW motors ( it's set up for reliability and economy) , a simple reprogramming of this software can enable the inverters to yield much greater power that can smoke the tyres and accelerate 40-60 % faster , great fun for offroad rallying, but not recommended because it destroys the batteries long life 😬
@@fenflyer It would be enough a limited slip rear differential, I mean a real mechanical one, not ESP-based.
@@markotrieste Modern Electric vehicles are the most significant shift in automotive technology since the creation of the automobile , this is partially due to due to less mechanical components involved in there build eg. complex limited slip diffs etc 🙄
It’s still strange to see such a big car that’s sold on being an efficient machine.
It kinda sorta is, as long as you don't use it as you'd normally use it :)
It is unbelievable economical car. I did not use a drop of fuel in last 1200km! When you do the short runs mainly it is basically an electric car.
When I do some longer trips and some traveling mixed with charging and everyday driving I end up with the average fuel consumption of 4L/100 on a full tank. Pretty descent for a 1.9tonnes. Especially when mine is lifted by 3cm. I added also bigger 225/75r16 AllTerrain tires :)
Just yesterday I found out that surprisingly in the *Series Hybrid* mode at higher speeds than 70km/h (SPORT mode must be engaged), average fuel consumption is just 4.5L/5.5L within speed limit here in Iceland which is 90km/h. In *Series Hybrid* mode the Power Generator Unit constantly top up the batteries which powers the twin electric motors. (2.4L engine is omitted).
Similar situation like with new Nissan ePower technology.
When driving the same speeds up to 90km/h in the *Parallel Hybrid* mode when the 2.4L engine is engaged my fuel consumption is around 8/10L.
So my monthly fuel costs will go down even more when I will start using my discovery :)
@@MarekDrives ^
Brawo 200 tys. subskrypcji😀
Good reviews 👍
Chademo is for Mitsubishis vehicle to grid technology called dendo. CCS doesnt support V2G yet. ;)
Hi, do you have a test of the 2016 model, and what are the difference? Thanks in advance!
I drove three of these over the years, and AFAIR changes are cosmetic. The biggest difference is between the 2012 and 2015 facelift, because the car got a new fascia. Otherwise it's mostly the same.
@@MarekDrives This or the passat estate gte? Which would you choose for which purpose? Will the passat be as good of road with 48mm lift kit as the outlander? What are the main differences, easier to use, overall more pleasant to own? In my country both are the same price on the used market. Also, is it noticably slower than the passat?
Thanks Marek, i was actually thinking of buying this one. now not too sure. Do u think its worth buying hybrid highlander instead? More money and no plug in..
We don't get the Highlander in Europe, but if it's anything like other Toyota hybrids I'd go with that.
i love buttons...
It would be a great choice if it would have a 20-25kWh battery, two 100kW motors (with real AWD lock), and a small compact turbo engine acting just as a motorgenerator, that would create space for a frunk as well. And sadly enough, all of it would cost to them nothing more than 5k over the petrol version.
I have bought my Outlander PHEV on purpose that it does not have a turbo engine. Add a turbo to the engine and you can say bye-bye to your car's reliability. The Outlander PHEV has a very reliable atmospheric engine and following many Outlander PHEV forums I have read only about a single case in 5 years when engine failed which was also because of neglect (not changing oil). That does not mean that I know about all cases and I believe there are some more than 1, but if you go to VW forums and read about their turbo engines, then the number of failures are incomparably higher.
@@dkostasx I don't know how much it would affect reliability since in this case the motor doesn't have to drive the wheels so it could really be optimized to work at the optimal RPM to not destroy the turbo.
Most of the issues turbo cars have is that people drive them under their optimal rpm in urban traffic. But here that would not be an issue since it's a generator and needs to run at a steady constant rpm.
Seems I drove this 2.4 l engine yet 15 tears ago.....Very possible Mitsubishi Motors would filed for bankruptcy soon...
P.S. Early today watching RAV-4 PHEV' review form USA....... Another Universe...
You are missing in your review the fact that this car loses the acceleration when is going up hills for more than 10 miles since the cell battery gets depleted and at that point, the fan stop working and gets overheated. Did you try to go up hills in this car for more than 10 miles?
I don't think I know a road that would go up 10 miles without a flat or downward section, so no, I haven't tried it.
Some design features (only tilt adujstable steering wheel) look like they would fit 90s or 80s car. Another example how manufacturers add names or so called experience from legendary models like Eclipse, Evo X to rather simple car like 7 seat SUV.
The steering wheel has reach adjustment, but it's insufficient.
@@MarekDrives Now I understood. From video it looked like only tilt is adjustable:)
It does seem like a nice modern PHEV drivetrain that is ruined by its placement in 1990s car (CUV).
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Was thinking about to buy but it's pure plastic, no power. Thanks God I didn't. Wind up buying a Volvo XC90 instead. What a brilliant car
this car has not changed since 2012 very old looking looks boring
That is because it is the last iteration of the 7 year old car design before the new model comes out hopefully next year.
For 51000 eur.......No thanks!
No no no no no no no
Wow, I don't even want to look at those buttons while their are on the screen, so cheap and flimsy. I imagine how terrible they are to the touch in real life...
They are normal buttons and only the looks makes them look old fashioned.
Bleurghhhh yuck. Always thought these looked awkward, watching this and trying to have a balanced view. It’s still a not an appealing car (to me, may suit others of course).
Your Video was not really helpful.
What information is missing? I'll gladly answer your questions, and it will help me improve my reviews in the future.
@Gerard Ferry I disagree. I spend half the time telling you guys what awesome tech it is. And the other half what crap car it's crammed in :)