To get the most out of the UV light first you will need to use much, much dimmer white light, or dim red light - that way your eyes will adapt to the dark. It takes about 20 minutes to get acclimated to the darkness.
Another great mine, that thing is huge. Tom I really like the way you explain things you find so we can understand. Can't wait for the next time, be careful and God bless. Your friend Jimmy!
Hello Tom Hello Julie Thank you for this Video. The mine looks like in old times very organized and than everything changes and they dig like crazy in all Direktions without any Limits. Very interesting very unstable in many ways. Take care waiting for Part two. I wish you a good save New week Yours Frank Galetzka
Hello Frank, I'm not sure how tungsten veins generally run. There sure are some huge caverns in this one. The workings do go in all directions. Thanks for watching and commenting! Hope you have a great weekend and new week, too.
Tom, your so good at knowing where your at and keeping track at all times! Have you and Julie ever got lost or turned around before? Much respect from me.
Out of the thousands of mines that we've been in I can say we have never gotten lost and only a handful of times have we been temporarily turned around or disoriented. It looks more confusing on video than it is in real life. Thanks for the comment, Gordon!
0:54 That is old style "Square Set timber". Not just the shape, but the way it is notched and assembled. That horizontal beam is not just sitting on those columns. The beam has square notches on the under side and the columns have been cut down on top to have small square posts that fit up in the holes in the beam. Once it is loaded, it will not come apart. It will break first.
Thanks for your input on the timbers. We saw a specialized saw setup in Goldfield that was used for cutting that type of joint. The old timers knew what they were doing. Now days you're lucky if you can find even something simple like a drawer that is well made.
I guess there is more to it than just drilling a few holes. They all have to be just right and then the pattern of the shot has to be just right, too. Thanks for commenting!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring I used 2 different rigs the Shand run on compressed air and was on tracks and it pulled it's own compressor it was a cold rig to use, and the Boart which was diesel electric so you could run on both, it was a case of angles forward and side to side you would start in the middle and work side to side and then a few degrees forward and do the same watching the colour of the water coming back and the residence of the steels both rig's had 4' steels and it was a 2 man job the driller and steel man who put the steels into bed into the jaw's or clamp, you basically drilled through the ore to the stone again, the charge it with pills of gel using an air breach on a very long plastic pipe you could have a ton of gel sometimes in the holes the last pill had a det on which would be stemed with clay then wire them all together and fire them, we worked in slits so the heading was driven in the stone and we drove slits off the heading which went through the ore to the stone back wall usually using steel arches and wooden boards to support and give you cover so you could long hole it. Then the rings would be stripped out before blasting. I was quite a dangerous job and I had a couple of close calls when the stopes collapsed whilst i was charging the holes, you feel a down draft of air that's your only warning scary but great at the same time .
I especially enjoy your explanations of what we are seeing during the video. The stills during the videos are much appreciated so that we can read and have a better understanding of the mechanical finds. thanks, Wayne
Pretty impressive mine. When I think of Tungsten I think of incandescent light bulb and vacuum tube filaments, and I always scratched my head because it seems like they mined much more than what could be used for those filaments back in the day. Then someone mentioned Tungsten Carbide and I suddenly knew where most of that ore probably went to.
It is an impressive mine. Tungsten has a lot of uses for hardening steel. The military uses include better gun barrels, armor piercing projectiles and very hard cutting tools and molds. I believe that the world tungsten supply is becoming depleted somewhat. Thanks for the comment, BT!
What a crazy swiss-cheese mine! Stopes here, stopes there, stopes everywhere! Glad you didn't get lost, because I sure did. That little bat looked just like an insulator. I would have tried to touch it! Part 2, coming up!
Right at 3527 Mark. Julie got spooked and said whoa did you hear that change? What was she talking about? Wow that was a huge room!! Very cool video to watch.
I don't know what she saw that caused her to jump. The change in sound is something that we look for in mines that relates to the stability of the drift. If you get an echo or reverb type sound from your voice that means the drift is hard rock and usually more stable than if your voice is dead sounding. If there is no echo that means the drift is softer and your voice is not bouncing off the hard rock and the drift is possibly not as stable as it could be. Some of those cavernous stopes are crazy big. Thanks for the comment, Eddie!
I almost ran my head right into the little guy. You keep your eyes on the floor much of the time to keep from tripping on rocks and timbers so I didn't even see the bat until the last second. I try not to bother the bats as we are entering their home and they are beneficial creatures. Glad that you enjoyed the video and thanks for the comment, Paul!
What a blast! There's so much to explore, I would feel quite excited. I like the doors and timbering. The off-slabbing and crumbly was definitely U-turn territory. Yowza I thought that little bat, center like that looked like a tag nailed up there. I was thinking that your helmet might get scratched by a nail, then whoa Nellie! 🦇 😅 Have you thought how some of the mineralizing swirls have a Van Gogh's touch to them? Too much to mention 😉 Health has been quite trying. Just keep doing what's possible and hope. I'm pumped up for part II
The slabbing is always a big concern. Gravity never lets up and sooner or later wins the battle with any loose rocks overhead. The mineral veins are very amazing and are some of nature's finest work. We're hoping that you are making progress with your health challenges. I think you'll enjoy part two. Thanks for watching and commenting, Rick!
Hello Julie and Tom. Wow this is a big one that you had to make a 2 part video out of it. Pretty interesting mine, can't wait to see what else you found.
Hello Stephen. Yes, it a good sized mine. We spent six hours inside exploring just two of the four levels. Glad that you found it interesting and we'll see you in part two!
Wow what a fantastic mine wish all ours in the UK were as dry, I'd have a field day in that place and all the track spokes lay around and in great condition to, wish the one's i find were in as good condition, would make my life easier when I come to make my coat hooks out of them I've made a couple for our home look fantastic and a bit of old mine repurposing, keep the great videos coming, I'm out with my lamp sponsor's in a couple of weeks, keep safe you guys,
Yes, the dry mines we see are a real treat and everything is well preserved. I'm assuming you're talking about the track spikes for making coat hooks. That's a great idea. I might try that myself. We'll look for your video coming up. Thanks for the comment!
Hello Tom and Julie, That is 16 pound rail. Just before you measured the rail, there seemed to be a piece of rail rolled into a circle of maybe four-foot diameter. Can't really figure a purpose for it. I wonder if the miners purposely fragmented the dynamite boxes once they were empty so that there was no chance a stick or two might be missed.
I wonder about that curled rail, too. It's possible it is shaped like that from using a loader or other machine to pull it up after they are done with a section? I know that the straight pieces are the only ones that get reused. If there is any custom curve to them they usually get tossed aside. I've no idea why the boxes are splintered so much. I've never seen so many box parts. Thanks for commenting, David!
Hi Tom & Julie, wow what a cool, interesting mine so far, you found some really cool things too and I love how that writing showed up under the different light. Those bats certainly have a nice large cavernous home to sleep in Thank you for sharing, much love to both of you from Enya and all of us. xx ❤
Hi Sue, It's a huge mine with very large cavernous stopes. There are some decent artifacts, too. Thanks for the comment and please give Enya a little hug from us. I miss having Pickles on my lap. 😸❤👍
Brilliant video , how you guys keep track of your way around is beyond me. Looking forward to part 2. Ps. You guys ever see or hear anything spooky on your travels? (Just asking as it’s the spooky time of year ;)
It's not as hard to keep track if where we are as it looks on video. If we have an important turn we want to mark we will make a small rock cairn. We definitely hear noises occasionally when in mines but it's usually a rock falling, wind coming down a shaft rattling something or an animal like a rat. Thanks for commenting, Mark!
That big metal scaffolding looks like something to set up at the opening of those flat chutes and they maybe used a slusher to pull ore out of the stopes right into the ore chute and then the ore cart would be under the scaffolding, just a guess….
Hi, looks like you found the friendly bat cave! After all the mines you’ve been in, no more scary bat worries. Interesting tungsten mine , also nice schooling in rail measuring! I love you both how you make mine exploring a great pastime, sorry no Fritos left ? Is this in the Death Valley area also? Ever explore the Greenwater area for mines? I have collected mining stock certificates from this region, also Bullfrog and Rhyolite areas, nice collection. Fantastic video and always fun to watch, Stay Safe! Thanks 😊 Can’t wait for part 2!
Hi Ron, we have been in the Greenwayer area but have not found much to explore. If I remember correctly Greenwater, like so many other mining areas, was basically a big scam to sell stock, artificially drive the stock price up, then sell your own shares and run before the investors can get their hands on you. Thanks for the comment and for watching this video. It is not in the DV area closer to Bishop.
Great, thank you for taking measurements! I know it‘s a big ask: I‘ve seen portable lasers in DIY stores. Not only useful for DIY but also to measure distance. iPhones (newer models) have a LIDAR that can be used to measure too. Scale is very hard to convey, especially steep inclined shafts of hundreds of ft depth. Fascinating.. Very well done!
Good job guys. Very large and looks to be very unstable in places. A person could get a serious headache all the way down to the toes if not careful. 😲
Seems like that operation left behind more debris/trash than your average mine exploration shows. Very good as usual! Reckon those twisted rails got that way from dynamite?
This is a little more modern than some of the early 1900's operations that we see resulting in more packaging type trash. I can only guess about the bent rails getting that way from being removed by a machine after they are no longer being used. Thanks for the comment!
I remember making tennis ball canons with those old tin cans. cut the top and bottom off, duck tape 4 or 5 together end to end. poke a few holes into the bottom can, squirt a bit of gasoline into the hole, insert tennis ball and light it off. sometimes the balls would catch fire and flame across the sky...good times.
Haha, good times indeed. Just make sure to vacate the area and hide the cannon when your neighbors wood shake roof catches fire. We used to do the same type thing. Surprised someone didn't get an eye put out. Thanks for the chuckle, DZL!
Good question. Geologists would be my answer and lots of testing, drilling and assaying would help to determine the quantity and quality of the mineral vein. Thanks for the comment, Richie!
That metal object at 33:30 is a end of the rail track derailer, and also used as a frog rerailer for ore cars .... We used them at Anaconda Carr Fork....
Tom & Julie, Another great explore as we have come to expect. Interesting and extensive workings. Do you ever use mine maps for navigation? Keeping your orientation inside these extensive mines can be a challenge. Great camera work and narrative. Thank for sharing.
You're welcome, Rob, and thanks for the nice comment! We don't generally use mine maps for underground navigation mostly because there are not many available, at least that I can find. There is another thing that makes using mine maps difficult, especially mines with several working levels, and that is they are very hard to read. The way mine maps are made they just layer the workings of each level on top of each other and you end up with something that looks like a bowl of spaghetti. I think that underground navigating looks more difficult on video than it is in real life. Sometimes we will make a small rock cairn at an important intersection to mark it. We have only been temporarily disoriented a few times out of thousands of mines we've entered. 👍
Tom & Julie, Yes, I've had the same issues. Don't know why they don't document each level on a different map page. Spaghetti is a good description of what you get. Also, in my experience, many are not accurate due to some mines being reworked after the survey and mapping was done. I appreciate how you take care not to not disclose the locations of these mines. Thank you. Rob
Tom & Julie, One thing I have used to assist my orientation is I take a pocket full of small bike reflectors. You can place them on the ground and they reflect well in the light of a flashlight. They are inexpensive and work well. Pick them up on the way out. Reuse them later. Rob
I'm curious about the type of light you have. I used to have an ultra-violet, different than a black light, I used it when I would hike in the desert at night, I think there are different frequencies for finding minerals
The UV light I have is a Convoy brand Fyrfly model. There are different wave lengths I believe for fluorescing different minerals. This one is 365nm if I remember correctly and sells for $100. Thanks for the comment, Peter!
Hi Tom and Julie! Any plans to visit Joshua Tree area this year? We just hiked/explored Silver and Golden Bell on Sunday. Would love to take you to dinner if you are down this way.
Hi Paul, we will be in Twentynine Palms for a while towards the end of this year. That's a nice offer, but you don't have to buy us dinner. Keep in touch and we'll see if we can get together for some hiking or exploring fun.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring We sure will - Thanks! So many places around 29 Palms - I was a Marine Pilot for 25 years, so fairly familiar with the area. Also, is there a way to get your email address or I can give you ours? Thanks, Paul and Michelle
YES! I will join you's, that's if you ever get out of the labyrinth, we'll see next week if there's another TOM & JULIE mine explore, or two missing mine hikers!!??
Howdy, was wondering if these are still accessible as I thought the Pine Creek Tungsten Mine was privately owned currently. Perhaps I’m confusing areas as I’m going off a referral from someone in the area and research online and our group isn’t originally from CA. We were looking at hiking out to these sites as part of a videography/documentary project. Thanks!
Hi Splicer. This two part video is not about the Pine Creek Mine. It is a different mine, approximately 40 miles away from Pine Creek. This mine is bat gated, and unless you have the technology to undo the removable bar, you can't gain access to it. The Pine Creek Mine is indeed privately owned, changing hands a couple of times since it was run by Union Carbide years ago. There are people there at all times keeping an eye on it. There is another mine that you can hike to starting at the Pine Creek Pack Station, which is the Brownstone Mine. There is not much underground there to see, but there is an interesting upper tram terminal that is accessible. It's also a beautiful hike up to it. If you are looking for more information on specific mines that you might see in our videos, you can email me at: jwigren40@gmail.com Here is a link to our video of the Brownstone. ruclips.net/video/dCwmbLvPCRc/видео.htmlsi=VlUooy8O0vuDdK0i
Tom the rail you measured looks like 20 lb. all rails are sized by weight lb per foot, train trak is 60 lb I attched a .jpg from a central steel book vintage 1995. look forward to next week and part 2.
Yes, a grizzly is an initial classifier to keep big rocks from clogging the chutes. Whatever doesn't fit through the bars gets a few hits with a sledge to break them down.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Thats a first for me. Back then they had low cost clever solutions to fix their problems. Today someone would spend 10k on one bought in a store when that worked just fine.
Hi Tom & Julie! This is Harold from Oregon (hrbailey379xhd). I am just going through my personal list of channels and adding them to our channel list on Huggy Bear & Frogg!
Hi Harold, I just subbed to your channel. I'll try to catch up on a few of your videos when we get somewhere that has wifi. Only using cell data currently which gets burned up quickly when you manage a RUclips channel. 😆
Haha, okay next time we are there we'll stop in. If you are a good researcher you might find maps of certain mines. I have not seen one for this mine. Thanks, Mark!
I was just curious, I've seen were miners talk about Tommy knockers and ghosts, have u ever seen or heard things in these mines that you couldn't explain??
We do hear noises in mines occasionally, but that should be expected. There are always animals that live in mines, rocks fall from gravity pulling on them and wind can come down shafts and rattle steel sheets and other things around. So, I really don't think we've heard a noise that is beyond explanation. I really wish I could have answered yes to your question. Thanks, Shiloh!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring thank you for your response. And I understand what your saying, but I'm sure you have alot of footage you don't publish, like when your reviewing your footage or audio have you ever seen or heard anything that should not have been there possibly?
Julie scared me at about 35:21 Was it because of the huge cave in. I would not have gone in there either. She has good instinct. Yeah, after watching it again you were both very wise to turn around. If anything was jostled in there it looked like other rocks were just waiting to fall.
That thing is huge scared me a little bit when Julie was walking along and then she kind of jumped I thought there was a wild animal in there or something
Easy way to get Julie going would be tell her she has a bat on her backpack my bad that would be something I would do hahaha but my goodness that's a pretty big mine
I wouldn't want Julie to run off and fall down a hole. This is a huge mine. It took us six hours to explore two of the four levels. Thanks for the comment, John!
running into bats flying arournd is abour as comforting as walking into spider webs with your face. I don't blame you Julie. Carry on mine explorers looking good
They don't really bother me as much as they do Julie. They are startling when you're not expecting them. Check this mine out if you want. It's appropriately named the Dracula Mine. Thanks for commenting!😬 ruclips.net/video/0rS0TuBx0S4/видео.html
Didn't see the man himself, just some of his little pals. Tungsten is an additive that can improve certain qualities in steel. Thanks for the comment, JB!
I don't understand was how many men worked that mine. That's a lot of rock to haul out of there. And out in the middle of NOWHERE! So they had food to feed these men and what about water? Hmmm
@@TomandJulieMineExploring il uh just keep scratching my head on that one. Hey but you all do some nice filming. Got to see things I would never see in my life like the inside of that mine. Wow. Take care sir you and your wife. 😁👍🙏
@@TomandJulieMineExploring when I say 24 gauge when you use a bigger track the smallest is 18 gauge 18 in from inside to inside or a little less for the flange of the wheels The Next Step size track is 24 gauge and the biggest track is 36 gauge. So looking at the size of the track it's 24 gauge. Gauge means from inside to inside of the track width. The reason why I know this I've been underground Miner for 38 years. Once in a while you'll see where they use 24 gauge for 18 gauge but that's not very common. But yes they it does go by the pound. But when us miners are talking 18 24 36 we're talking from inside to inside the flange of the wheels of the ore cart
"There's a lot of junk in here if you like junk" ...........hahaahaahahaaha......you know there is going to be someone who wanted you to show them every last piece of stuff in that junk pile. hahahaa
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Of course. It was funny the way you said it. You guys have the kind of humor i appreciate. You kind of said it under your breath and it was funny.
Well I hope you feel better about yourself after leaving an insulting, misspelled comment. I, on the other hand, being a nice person will answer your question anyway. I don't show the portal from the outside because I don't want you, or anyone else, to know where it is.
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Julie and I are out exploring today so I can't reply to your comments until later. Please leave one for us anyway as we love hearing from you all!
The big John from Mina Nevada saying hi another great video
To get the most out of the UV light first you will need to use much, much dimmer white light, or dim red light - that way your eyes will adapt to the dark. It takes about 20 minutes to get acclimated to the darkness.
@@larry785 We have fluoresced minerals many times in the past. The camera didn't pick anything up in this one. Thanks for your input, Larry!
Loved seeing those old pop cans. Really cool mine!
Glad that you liked it, Murf. Thanks for the comment!
Another great mine, that thing is huge. Tom I really like the way you explain things you find so we can understand. Can't wait for the next time, be careful and God bless. Your friend Jimmy!
Thanks for the nice comment, Jimmy. Hope that you are doing well and we're keeping you in our prayers.
One Big Mine! Can't wait to see part two! Thanks Tom and Julie!
It a big one all right. Part 2 next Friday. Thanks for the comment, William!
Hello Tom Hello Julie
Thank you for this Video.
The mine looks like in old times very organized and than everything changes and they dig like crazy in all Direktions without any Limits.
Very interesting very unstable in many ways.
Take care waiting for Part two.
I wish you a good save New week
Yours Frank Galetzka
Hello Frank, I'm not sure how tungsten veins generally run. There sure are some huge caverns in this one. The workings do go in all directions. Thanks for watching and commenting! Hope you have a great weekend and new week, too.
Tom, your so good at knowing where your at and keeping track at all times! Have you and Julie ever got lost or turned around before? Much respect from me.
Out of the thousands of mines that we've been in I can say we have never gotten lost and only a handful of times have we been temporarily turned around or disoriented. It looks more confusing on video than it is in real life. Thanks for the comment, Gordon!
Enjoyed the episode with my two favorite explorer's you two are Awsome!!!! Looking forward to your next episode ❤️
Never go straight Tom ! LOL Just continue ahead :-)
Lol, agreed. Ahead we go! Thanks, William!
That was a long one and only part one... Wow!
We were in here for six hours and only saw two of the four levels. This thing is a beast. Thanks for watching, Max!
SO very BRAVE you two. Thank you for sharing this part of your explore with us...........
You're welcome, Bill, and thanks for the nice comment!
0:54 That is old style "Square Set timber". Not just the shape, but the way it is notched and assembled. That horizontal beam is not just sitting on those columns. The beam has square notches on the under side and the columns have been cut down on top to have small square posts that fit up in the holes in the beam. Once it is loaded, it will not come apart. It will break first.
Thanks for your input on the timbers. We saw a specialized saw setup in Goldfield that was used for cutting that type of joint. The old timers knew what they were doing. Now days you're lucky if you can find even something simple like a drawer that is well made.
Cool to see the long hole drilling patterns that was my job when I was a miner loved it 😊
I guess there is more to it than just drilling a few holes. They all have to be just right and then the pattern of the shot has to be just right, too. Thanks for commenting!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring I used 2 different rigs the Shand run on compressed air and was on tracks and it pulled it's own compressor it was a cold rig to use, and the Boart which was diesel electric so you could run on both, it was a case of angles forward and side to side you would start in the middle and work side to side and then a few degrees forward and do the same watching the colour of the water coming back and the residence of the steels both rig's had 4' steels and it was a 2 man job the driller and steel man who put the steels into bed into the jaw's or clamp, you basically drilled through the ore to the stone again, the charge it with pills of gel using an air breach on a very long plastic pipe you could have a ton of gel sometimes in the holes the last pill had a det on which would be stemed with clay then wire them all together and fire them, we worked in slits so the heading was driven in the stone and we drove slits off the heading which went through the ore to the stone back wall usually using steel arches and wooden boards to support and give you cover so you could long hole it. Then the rings would be stripped out before blasting. I was quite a dangerous job and I had a couple of close calls when the stopes collapsed whilst i was charging the holes, you feel a down draft of air that's your only warning scary but great at the same time .
@@Olminer66 Thanks for the detailed and informative explanation of the drilling of a heading.
I especially enjoy your explanations of what we are seeing during the video. The stills during the videos are much appreciated so that we can read and have a better understanding of the mechanical finds. thanks, Wayne
Glad that you enjoyed the explanations and stills, Wayne. We appreciate the comment!👍👍
What a massive mine. Another spectacular explore!
It is a big mine. We spent six hours exploring two of the four levels here. Part two will be out next Friday. Thanks for the comment, Roger!
Pretty impressive mine. When I think of Tungsten I think of incandescent light bulb and vacuum tube filaments, and I always scratched my head because it seems like they mined much more than what could be used for those filaments back in the day. Then someone mentioned Tungsten Carbide and I suddenly knew where most of that ore probably went to.
It is an impressive mine. Tungsten has a lot of uses for hardening steel. The military uses include better gun barrels, armor piercing projectiles and very hard cutting tools and molds. I believe that the world tungsten supply is becoming depleted somewhat. Thanks for the comment, BT!
What a crazy swiss-cheese mine! Stopes here, stopes there, stopes everywhere! Glad you didn't get lost, because I sure did. That little bat looked just like an insulator. I would have tried to touch it! Part 2, coming up!
Yes, a crazy mine with lots of twists, turns and stopes. Sorry to make you wait for part two. It will be worth it. Thanks for the comment Lesley!
That’s Fantastic. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome and thanks for watching and commenting, Kevin!
Right at 3527 Mark. Julie got spooked and said whoa did you hear that change? What was she talking about? Wow that was a huge room!! Very cool video to watch.
I don't know what she saw that caused her to jump. The change in sound is something that we look for in mines that relates to the stability of the drift. If you get an echo or reverb type sound from your voice that means the drift is hard rock and usually more stable than if your voice is dead sounding. If there is no echo that means the drift is softer and your voice is not bouncing off the hard rock and the drift is possibly not as stable as it could be. Some of those cavernous stopes are crazy big. Thanks for the comment, Eddie!
That little bat was funny, great video nice to hear Julie chatting and showing off the artefacts looking forward to of2 stay safe
I almost ran my head right into the little guy. You keep your eyes on the floor much of the time to keep from tripping on rocks and timbers so I didn't even see the bat until the last second. I try not to bother the bats as we are entering their home and they are beneficial creatures. Glad that you enjoyed the video and thanks for the comment, Paul!
what a big mine you guys find the best ones thank you tom and julie
This thing is huge. Glad that you enjoyed it, Jerry!
W❤️W! That’s Awesome And Exciting Adventure! Cheers!🥂❤️✨
Woohoo!! That’s a big mine. Fun to see.
Great video!
Thanks!
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It's a big mine for sure. Thanks, George!👍👍👊😎
Good explore guys, added a like and share. Cheers and please stay safe out their.
Thanks, Tom. We appreciate the like and share!
What a blast! There's so much to explore, I would feel quite excited. I like the doors and timbering. The off-slabbing and crumbly was definitely U-turn territory. Yowza
I thought that little bat, center like that looked like a tag nailed up there. I was thinking that your helmet might get scratched by a nail, then whoa Nellie! 🦇 😅
Have you thought how some of the mineralizing swirls have a Van Gogh's touch to them?
Too much to mention 😉
Health has been quite trying. Just keep doing what's possible and hope.
I'm pumped up for part II
The slabbing is always a big concern. Gravity never lets up and sooner or later wins the battle with any loose rocks overhead. The mineral veins are very amazing and are some of nature's finest work.
We're hoping that you are making progress with your health challenges.
I think you'll enjoy part two. Thanks for watching and commenting, Rick!
Surprising to see so many hollowed out areas and large drifts...impressive start!
I don't understand why the whole mountain doesn't cave in. It's really pretty amazing. Thanks for watching, Mark!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring I was thinking about the mountain collapsing too.
Hello Julie and Tom. Wow this is a big one that you had to make a 2 part video out of it. Pretty interesting mine, can't wait to see what else you found.
Hello Stephen. Yes, it a good sized mine. We spent six hours inside exploring just two of the four levels. Glad that you found it interesting and we'll see you in part two!
Wow what a fantastic mine wish all ours in the UK were as dry, I'd have a field day in that place and all the track spokes lay around and in great condition to, wish the one's i find were in as good condition, would make my life easier when I come to make my coat hooks out of them I've made a couple for our home look fantastic and a bit of old mine repurposing, keep the great videos coming, I'm out with my lamp sponsor's in a couple of weeks, keep safe you guys,
Yes, the dry mines we see are a real treat and everything is well preserved. I'm assuming you're talking about the track spikes for making coat hooks. That's a great idea. I might try that myself. We'll look for your video coming up. Thanks for the comment!
I'd send you a photo of one I've made but there's no way of doing it in RUclips messages I don't think.
I agree Tom, most of it looks like 70's stuff. I was a very little boy in the 70's but i remember what stuff looked like.
Yes, I think it was last worked sometime in the 70's.
Hello Tom and Julie, That is 16 pound rail. Just before you measured the rail, there seemed to be a piece of rail rolled into a circle of maybe four-foot diameter. Can't really figure a purpose for it. I wonder if the miners purposely fragmented the dynamite boxes once they were empty so that there was no chance a stick or two might be missed.
I wonder about that curled rail, too. It's possible it is shaped like that from using a loader or other machine to pull it up after they are done with a section? I know that the straight pieces are the only ones that get reused. If there is any custom curve to them they usually get tossed aside. I've no idea why the boxes are splintered so much. I've never seen so many box parts. Thanks for commenting, David!
Hi Tom & Julie, wow what a cool, interesting mine so far, you found some really cool things too and I love how that writing showed up under the
different light. Those bats certainly have a nice large cavernous home to sleep in Thank you for sharing, much love to both of you from Enya and all of us. xx ❤
Hi Sue, It's a huge mine with very large cavernous stopes. There are some decent artifacts, too. Thanks for the comment and please give Enya a little hug from us. I miss having Pickles on my lap. 😸❤👍
@@TomandJulieMineExploring xx 😿❤
Wow! Thanks for the thrills. You guys are awesome. ❤
Thanks, Jeff. Glad that you enjoyed it!
My first mine video of the week thanks guys once again for another great video
You're welcome, Tony! Thanks for watching. 👍👍
Good one! Look forward to part two. Stay safe!
Thanks for watching and commenting, Don!
That was one of the best mines yet , can't wait for pt.2 , thanks for all the fun . Tony from Wilsonville .
Glad that you liked it, Tony. Hope all is well in Wilsonville. Part two will be out next Friday. Sorry to make you wait.
Brilliant video , how you guys keep track of your way around is beyond me. Looking forward to part 2. Ps. You guys ever see or hear anything spooky on your travels? (Just asking as it’s the spooky time of year ;)
It's not as hard to keep track if where we are as it looks on video. If we have an important turn we want to mark we will make a small rock cairn. We definitely hear noises occasionally when in mines but it's usually a rock falling, wind coming down a shaft rattling something or an animal like a rat. Thanks for commenting, Mark!
That big metal scaffolding looks like something to set up at the opening of those flat chutes and they maybe used a slusher to pull ore out of the stopes right into the ore chute and then the ore cart would be under the scaffolding, just a guess….
That sounds like a good guess, Harold. That makes pretty good sense. Thanks for your input!
Hi, looks like you found the friendly bat cave! After all the mines you’ve been in, no more scary bat worries. Interesting tungsten mine , also nice schooling in rail measuring! I love you both how you make mine exploring a great pastime, sorry no Fritos left ? Is this in the Death Valley area also? Ever explore the Greenwater area for mines? I have collected mining stock certificates from this region, also Bullfrog and Rhyolite areas, nice collection. Fantastic video and always fun to watch, Stay Safe! Thanks 😊 Can’t wait for part 2!
Hi Ron, we have been in the Greenwayer area but have not found much to explore. If I remember correctly Greenwater, like so many other mining areas, was basically a big scam to sell stock, artificially drive the stock price up, then sell your own shares and run before the investors can get their hands on you. Thanks for the comment and for watching this video. It is not in the DV area closer to Bishop.
Spend my time metal detecting the parks here in Iowa but truly love watching your mine video’s!
Thanks for taking the time to watch our videos and glad that you enjoy them!
Pretty cool! Love those really big ones!
This is right up your alley. Thanks for watching, Jim!
Great, thank you for taking measurements!
I know it‘s a big ask: I‘ve seen portable lasers in DIY stores.
Not only useful for DIY but also to measure distance.
iPhones (newer models) have a LIDAR that can be used to measure too.
Scale is very hard to convey, especially steep inclined shafts of hundreds of ft depth. Fascinating.. Very well done!
Scale is nearly impossible to convey in a dark and deep mine shaft. Thanks for the suggestion!👍
Good job guys. Very large and looks to be very unstable in places. A person could get a serious headache all the way down to the toes if not careful. 😲
Yes, you could turn into a pancake in a hurry. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Seems like that operation left behind more debris/trash than your average mine exploration shows. Very good as usual! Reckon those twisted rails got that way from dynamite?
This is a little more modern than some of the early 1900's operations that we see resulting in more packaging type trash. I can only guess about the bent rails getting that way from being removed by a machine after they are no longer being used. Thanks for the comment!
I hadn't thought about machines being involved in the removal or installation@@TomandJulieMineExploring
Well done videos, thanks and what a nice lady 👍
Thank you for the nice comment, Bruno!👍👍
I remember making tennis ball canons with those old tin cans. cut the top and bottom off, duck tape 4 or 5 together end to end. poke a few holes into the bottom can, squirt a bit of gasoline into the hole, insert tennis ball and light it off. sometimes the balls would catch fire and flame across the sky...good times.
Haha, good times indeed. Just make sure to vacate the area and hide the cannon when your neighbors wood shake roof catches fire. We used to do the same type thing. Surprised someone didn't get an eye put out. Thanks for the chuckle, DZL!
Great vids, I always think how and who discovers these places to dig or tunnel.. and who discovered tungsten ore and named it ???????
Good question. Geologists would be my answer and lots of testing, drilling and assaying would help to determine the quantity and quality of the mineral vein. Thanks for the comment, Richie!
That metal object at 33:30 is a end of the rail track derailer, and also used as a frog rerailer for ore cars .... We used them at Anaconda Carr Fork....
Thanks for that information. I never could figure out what that was used for. 👍😁
Tom & Julie,
Another great explore as we have come to expect.
Interesting and extensive workings.
Do you ever use mine maps for navigation?
Keeping your orientation inside these extensive mines can be a challenge.
Great camera work and narrative.
Thank for sharing.
You're welcome, Rob, and thanks for the nice comment! We don't generally use mine maps for underground navigation mostly because there are not many available, at least that I can find. There is another thing that makes using mine maps difficult, especially mines with several working levels, and that is they are very hard to read. The way mine maps are made they just layer the workings of each level on top of each other and you end up with something that looks like a bowl of spaghetti. I think that underground navigating looks more difficult on video than it is in real life. Sometimes we will make a small rock cairn at an important intersection to mark it. We have only been temporarily disoriented a few times out of thousands of mines we've entered. 👍
Tom & Julie,
Yes, I've had the same issues.
Don't know why they don't document each level on a different map page. Spaghetti is a good description of what you get.
Also, in my experience, many are not accurate due to some mines being reworked after the survey and mapping was done.
I appreciate how you take care not to not disclose the locations of these mines. Thank you.
Rob
Tom & Julie,
One thing I have used to assist my orientation is I take a pocket full of small bike reflectors.
You can place them on the ground and they reflect well in the light of a flashlight.
They are inexpensive and work well.
Pick them up on the way out.
Reuse them later.
Rob
@@AZRob56Exactly, some of those maps drive you nuts.
I think that steel rack is a portable hoist stand, your thoughts?
That very well could be. Maybe what is called a slusher for pulling material onto those loading docks or hoisting something. Thanks, Mick!
He says nothing to watch, crickets. that is one MASSIVE hole in a mountain. Thanks Tom and Julie.
I don't understand why the whole mountain doesn't just collapse in one big cloud of dust. Lol. You're welcome and thanks for commenting, Mick!
What did these minors have for light...carbide lamps ?? or candles nice job I learn every time you guys go into the ground
Yes, carbide headlamps were common. Candles in the earlier times. Electrified mines with incandescent light in later times. Thanks for the comment!👌
Tom said can we go a little lower " faint Squeak down below only if you bring tha Cheeze!"!!!; )
Lol, I would have to bring enough for the whole troop of 🐀
Tom is your Jeep 6 or 4 cyl?
I am pretty sure it's a four, just listening to the exhaust.
Mick is correct. 4 cylinder. It's good enough for offroad a little weak on the highway. Thanks Bruce and Mick!
Have you thought about coming to Colorado to search the mines here?
We go through Colorado occasionally, but don't do any mine exploring there.
I'm curious about the type of light you have. I used to have an ultra-violet, different than a black light, I used it when I would hike in the desert at night, I think there are different frequencies for finding minerals
The UV light I have is a Convoy brand Fyrfly model. There are different wave lengths I believe for fluorescing different minerals. This one is 365nm if I remember correctly and sells for $100. Thanks for the comment, Peter!
Hi Tom and Julie! Any plans to visit Joshua Tree area this year? We just hiked/explored Silver and Golden Bell on Sunday. Would love to take you to dinner if you are down this way.
Hi Paul, we will be in Twentynine Palms for a while towards the end of this year. That's a nice offer, but you don't have to buy us dinner. Keep in touch and we'll see if we can get together for some hiking or exploring fun.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring We sure will - Thanks! So many places around 29 Palms - I was a Marine Pilot for 25 years, so fairly familiar with the area. Also, is there a way to get your email address or I can give you ours? Thanks, Paul and Michelle
@@paulc4047 Here is our email address:
jwigren40@gmail.com
YES! I will join you's, that's if you ever get out of the labyrinth, we'll see next week if there's another TOM & JULIE mine explore, or two missing mine hikers!!??
Haha, this one is a real labyrinth. You'll have to wait to see what happens next. Thanks for the comment, John!
This was a really cool Mine, great video Tom & Julie, always a pleasure to watch you guys.
Glad that you enjoyed the video and thanks for the comment! We appreciate you.
Howdy, was wondering if these are still accessible as I thought the Pine Creek Tungsten Mine was privately owned currently. Perhaps I’m confusing areas as I’m going off a referral from someone in the area and research online and our group isn’t originally from CA. We were looking at hiking out to these sites as part of a videography/documentary project. Thanks!
Hi Splicer. This two part video is not about the Pine Creek Mine. It is a different mine, approximately 40 miles away from Pine Creek. This mine is bat gated, and unless you have the technology to undo the removable bar, you can't gain access to it.
The Pine Creek Mine is indeed privately owned, changing hands a couple of times since it was run by Union Carbide years ago. There are people there at all times keeping an eye on it. There is another mine that you can hike to starting at the Pine Creek Pack Station, which is the Brownstone Mine. There is not much underground there to see, but there is an interesting upper tram terminal that is accessible. It's also a beautiful hike up to it. If you are looking for more information on specific mines that you might see in our videos, you can email me at:
jwigren40@gmail.com Here is a link to our video of the Brownstone.
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Tom the rail you measured looks like 20 lb. all rails are sized by weight lb per foot, train trak is 60 lb I attched a .jpg from a central steel book vintage 1995. look forward to next week and part 2.
Thanks for the info, Bill! See you for part 2.
What flashlights do you use down there.
We mainly use Coast brand hand held lights. We carry others for backup and videoing.
Is that the tungsten mine north of bishop?
Hi Tammy, I generally try not to make public the mine locations. Thanks for the comment.
There was activity in the mine post 1963 as many of the dynamite boxes had zip codes.
I think it was still being worked into the 1970's. Thanks, Pethoviejo!👍👌
what a mine ! I was wondering if you have a copy " MINE IN THE SKY , BY JOSEPH M. KURTAK "
Glad that you enjoyed it, Ted. I don't have Mine In The Sky. Are you recommending it? Thanks for your comment!👍👍
So, what you called a Grisly bar is kind of like a huge classifier? For lack of a better term.
Yes, a grizzly is an initial classifier to keep big rocks from clogging the chutes. Whatever doesn't fit through the bars gets a few hits with a sledge to break them down.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Thats a first for me. Back then they had low cost clever solutions to fix their problems. Today someone would spend 10k on one bought in a store when that worked just fine.
@paulg many times, the grizzly is made from pieces of ore car track that is welded to the frame.
Hi Tom & Julie! This is Harold from Oregon (hrbailey379xhd). I am just going through my personal list of channels and adding them to our channel list on Huggy Bear & Frogg!
Hi Harold, I just subbed to your channel. I'll try to catch up on a few of your videos when we get somewhere that has wifi. Only using cell data currently which gets burned up quickly when you manage a RUclips channel. 😆
@@TomandJulieMineExploring there’s not much there yet, I am having some connectivity issues myself.
Hi Tom &Julie
This is Frogg. Thought I’d send ya a🎃 We’re in New Mexico . Sitting in our
Bus with the wood stove a going. Hope to see ya soon.
@@huggybearfrogg9431 Sounds good, stay warm!
203 Rise, that is where I live, should have come in for some coffee!
Are there maps for these mines?
Haha, okay next time we are there we'll stop in. If you are a good researcher you might find maps of certain mines. I have not seen one for this mine. Thanks, Mark!
I was just curious, I've seen were miners talk about Tommy knockers and ghosts, have u ever seen or heard things in these mines that you couldn't explain??
We do hear noises in mines occasionally, but that should be expected. There are always animals that live in mines, rocks fall from gravity pulling on them and wind can come down shafts and rattle steel sheets and other things around. So, I really don't think we've heard a noise that is beyond explanation. I really wish I could have answered yes to your question. Thanks, Shiloh!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring thank you for your response. And I understand what your saying, but I'm sure you have alot of footage you don't publish, like when your reviewing your footage or audio have you ever seen or heard anything that should not have been there possibly?
Julie scared me at about 35:21 Was it because of the huge cave in. I would not have gone in there either. She has good instinct. Yeah, after watching it again you were both very wise to turn around. If anything was jostled in there it looked like other rocks were just waiting to fall.
Yes, you have to know when to say enough is enough. There is a part two of this video. Thanks for the comments, Paul!👍👍
hi guys, well, this mine is very complicated. nothing like our coal mines at all. be safe as always, kevin and vicki in pa.
Hi Kevin and Vicki, this one goes in all directions with huge caverns that I think should collapse. Thanks for watching from PA!
Where is this mine? What's the name of the mine?
Curious cuz I like to research the geology
Hi Scott. I generally don't make public mine names or locations. This is in California. I hope you enjoyed seeing it!👍
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Yeah that's what I thought I know you're probably trying to keep souvenir hunters away which is understandable
Exactly. Thanks for understanding.
Would like to see more videos if you can
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No we did not find any silver or gold. Just looking at the old mines. Thanks for the comment!👌😁
That thing is huge scared me a little bit when Julie was walking along and then she kind of jumped I thought there was a wild animal in there or something
I still don't know why she dis that.
I keep saying this but ''perforated bovine' that's a big hole.
Haha, yes, it really is.
Easy way to get Julie going would be tell her she has a bat on her backpack my bad that would be something I would do hahaha but my goodness that's a pretty big mine
I wouldn't want Julie to run off and fall down a hole. This is a huge mine. It took us six hours to explore two of the four levels. Thanks for the comment, John!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring well no I wouldn't want that neither but close to getting out it would of been funny and yea it's huge for sure
running into bats flying arournd is abour as comforting as walking into spider webs with your face. I don't blame you Julie. Carry on mine explorers looking good
They don't really bother me as much as they do Julie. They are startling when you're not expecting them.
Check this mine out if you want. It's appropriately named the Dracula Mine. Thanks for commenting!😬
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Yes, dates are always on the bottom for copenhagen.
I didn't see a year only a month and day if I saw it correctly.
Is this cave really thee Batmans cave. 😳 Just kidding. I want to see tungsten steel. 👍
Didn't see the man himself, just some of his little pals. Tungsten is an additive that can improve certain qualities in steel. Thanks for the comment, JB!
I don't understand was how many men worked that mine. That's a lot of rock to haul out of there. And out in the middle of NOWHERE! So they had food to feed these men and what about water? Hmmm
I couldn't tell you how many men worked here at a time. They had to find ways to get food and water to the miners. Thanks for the comment, Victor!👍😁
@@TomandJulieMineExploring il uh just keep scratching my head on that one. Hey but you all do some nice filming. Got to see things I would never see in my life like the inside of that mine.
Wow. Take care sir you and your wife.
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that is the size for 24 gage.
I think they go by pounds per foot, at least according to the chart I have. Thanks for your input, Robert!
@@TomandJulieMineExploring when I say 24 gauge when you use a bigger track the smallest is 18 gauge 18 in from inside to inside or a little less for the flange of the wheels The Next Step size track is 24 gauge and the biggest track is 36 gauge. So looking at the size of the track it's 24 gauge. Gauge means from inside to inside of the track width. The reason why I know this I've been underground Miner for 38 years. Once in a while you'll see where they use 24 gauge for 18 gauge but that's not very common. But yes they it does go by the pound. But when us miners are talking 18 24 36 we're talking from inside to inside the flange of the wheels of the ore cart
@@Rob-n3h7d Got it. I will try to include the gauge measurements when I do the track size. Thanks for your input on the guages!
It's too bad this mine is so dangerous because it would have been cool to see everything, but just too dangerous.
Make sure to see part two of the video. The link should be in the description.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Thanks. I will.
another GOmorning why are those tungsten mines so drab
It's not drab when you're in them. This thing is a beast. Thanks for watching, Michael!
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Gracias!
"There's a lot of junk in here if you like junk" ...........hahaahaahahaaha......you know there is going to be someone who wanted you to show them every last piece of stuff in that junk pile. hahahaa
I like looking at the junk piles, but you have to draw the line at some point.
@@TomandJulieMineExploring Of course. It was funny the way you said it. You guys have the kind of humor i appreciate. You kind of said it under your breath and it was funny.
those "victualic" clamps are $60+ a piece.... there's a small fortune in there for an enterprising mine explorer and significant other 👀
Haha, not me, Aaron. 👌
why don't you show the addit from the outside. quit copying the other mine exploring channels, its pothetic
Well I hope you feel better about yourself after leaving an insulting, misspelled comment. I, on the other hand, being a nice person will answer your question anyway. I don't show the portal from the outside because I don't want you, or anyone else, to know where it is.