6 Hardware Recommendations for Home Assistant
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- In todays video we are taking a look at some of the best hardware for running Home Assistant on, whether you are a beginner who has never looked at Home Assistant before, or a more advanced user looking to run not only Home Assistant, but also other projects along side it.
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What hardware are you running Home Assistant on?! 👇
Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+.
Older kit, and it gets worked pretty hard with between Tensorflow Lite and digesting eight 1080p camera streams. But it holds temperatures at about 55°C with a mounted fan.
I have a Unraid server and I use a Linux VMS to run it
So far so good. Raspberry Pi Zero W with HassOS. Just "temporarily"...
I am currently running it on my gaming pc, but am thinking about getting an Apple Mac mini. m1 with it's marvelous energy efficiency to run it there. Don't know if I should go with docker or run the server on Mac OS directly or maybe with VMs, but I am not sure about virtualization on the m1 machines, not a lot of content around about this.
I also would love to have a Plex server setup, so maybe with an external ssd connected to that m1 Mac mini can make it work.
Also great videos, thanks buddy
Lenovo m920s i5 8500 with 32gb ram..windows 10 + virtual box.
I don't know esxi so well although I hear something called proxmox is interesting apparently.
Keep in mind that the Home Assistant Blue case is limited edition. I purchased one recently here in the US and the Odroid came preloaded with the HA image, but the case was the standard clear Odroid case.
I agree with the raspberry Pi comments I started running home assistant on a raspberry pie 3. It worked, but was kind of slow after adding a lot of integrations. If you already have a raspberry Pi, it's good for playing around, but if you actually want to use Home Assistant I'd recommend something with more power. Switched to running it on old i5 windows laptop in a virtual machine. Works well and the laptop is hooked up to my tv playing double duty as a media box.
Really good and to the point. Nicely explained. Thank you.
Now I want to get a server because of you. If my wife gets mad it will be all your fault 🤣🤣🤣 thanks for your videos! Very informative and fun to watch!
😂 i feel the same. Only Network Chuck was to blame. 😋
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The only problem with "use the hardware you have" is high noise output, high power usage, and high space occupancy. Except that I'm sure everyone who watches these videos has multiple old servers, laptops, or computers. The trick is to find the smallest, most efficient, quietest, and cheapest :-D
Great choice of video subject! that would help a lot!
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I can vouch for HA running on a wide variety of hardware. I started on a Raspberry Pi 3 to find out all about it. Then shortly after switched to an Odroid XU4. I'm now running a fanless i5-3470t in a small mini itx case. I'm using proxmox as the main os with HA and pfsense as the main two virtual machines. The benefit is that I can run multiple computers on a single silent box with the benefit of keeping the power usage down.
It's good you've experienced them all, and yes virtualize all the things!
@@EverythingSmartHome Hello, I'm actually wondering what the 'virtualize all the things' means. Do you mean that one could have (let's use my intended setup for an example) Home Assistant, NAS Server and Linux/Windows PC to use and have it all on separate virtual machines so one 'going down' wont make the others go down?
@@madpancake9891yeah pretty much, for example i have a server running proxmox (hypervisor) which acts as the main operating system. From here I can create multiple virtual machines to run different services. For example windows for Plex server and Linux for mail server.
Basically I have one computer that pretends to be many computers
Raspberry pi here.. until my home assistant blue is delivered but then you knew that already ! great vid as always Buddy.. 13k subs and climbing
You must be itching for that blue to arrive!! Thank you my friend 🙏
Awesome video as always sir!
Thanks Nicolas! Appreciate your support as always! 🙏
Ordroid Blue is what I have now. I started with a raspberry pi 4. But because I want to run an instace of BlueIris I now looking at a Enterprise level machine. Great summation of the options out there. Thanks,
Sounds like your going a nice natural progression of all the HA options there are!
Thanks for the support, let me know how the new server goes!
Very nice video, TNX.
Good video with a wide spectrum of options. In the forums, a newby would be easily convinced that there are only three options - the Pi, the Blue and on a NAS. I used a Pi for the first 3 years of my home assistant journey. I then tried a number of different options and finally landed on a used NUC that I bought off of eBay for around $70us. Easy to image and makes HA nice and quick.
I also have a NAS but I wanted to keep my HA instance on its own hardware and UPS system. We rely on our system a bit more than typical because my wife is disabled and I wanted the ability to keep it operational without interruption from work on the NAS or power failures. It will run on a battery for an hour or more whereas the NAS is powered only for about 20 minutes. And why that is important is because we also have our home network on a battery backup with backup internet connections. The power out does not equal all of the home functions being out like monitoring, security, and connectivity.
Thanks Andrew, and agree!
Hi, How can you tell if what you are buying works? I'd like to move up from a Pi 3b.
Use old smartphones from friends and family that they couldn't otherwise sell.
basically a hub for each room that has front camera monitoring with triggers for different activities/occupancy and also a flashlight with light sensor that can serve as nightlight with status display (clock, temp, humidity, etc) or wall panel. Accelerometer and gyro could be used for vibration sensor or door/window sensor. Depending on the geometry of your setup it could even be used for full rear camera surveillance (for example if you punch a hole in each of the room doors and put it there you could use ALL of what I described).
I run Home Assistant and Blue Iris (for video surveillance) on an Intel NUC 8i5BEH with a 240GB SSD drive, i5 8th gen and 16GB RAM. The software setup is Windows 10 Pro + Home Assistant in Virtualbox. The i5 sits at about 5% usage most of the time so it seems it's having an easy time handling it
Heads up for Linux users: I also tried Proxmox and other linux distro's before but this specific NUC has a faulty ethernet driver in some versions of the linux kernel that cause ethernet to cut out constantly.
Thanks for the video. I thought it worth mentioning that the enterprise server option could introduce some limitations with the use of dongles like the ConBee II - depending on what OS run on your enterprise server of course. Most people going to the trouble of using an enterprise grade server will _likely_ run something like a hypervisor such as VMware or Hyper-V which may not offer USB pass-through functionality.
I wanted to use deCONZ with a ConBee II and ultimately ended up using a separate Raspberry Pi for the purposes. Doing that does give you some flexibility though as you can place your RasPi in the right place for your Zigbee (or Z-Wave I suppose if you have a dongle for that instead) devices.
Hey Lewis...good name 😅 it's a fair point although VMWare has supported USB pass-through for a long time. The only major player out there who hasn't supported this is Hyper-V to my knowledge, and there are many other reasons other than that that I would discourage people from using Hyper-V.
But yep something to take into consideration but there is always ways around that problem!
Thanks for commenting and kind words!
@@EverythingSmartHome Ha, likewise :) It's funny actually, I used ESXi for a long time but was forever annoyed by the absolutely diabolical throughput when copying data off the server and its rather lacklustre performance grinding away at a hardware backed RAID10 disk config and seemingly achieving nothing much but burning electricity. Switching to Hyper-V (literally just Hyper-V, not the full fat Windows Server with Hyper-V installed) saved literally days of data copying and, bar the lack of the USB pass-through feature, it has been pretty plain sailing. Who knows, VMware might have fixed that throughput issue but Hyper-V has actually been really good for me. As an IT pro myself, I am curious what your other reasons for discouraging Hyper-V are but that could end in a healthy debate that perhaps neither of us truly want to engage in :)
I've had a conbee 2 running using virtualbox for months, but it suddenly has started acting up the last few. USB passthrough is still a finnicky beast to get reliable. i'm considering moving to a raspi 4 to just be done with it
I got a used threadripper 1950x and ROG zenith extreme mobo for 1000$ couple years ago on ebay. 2000$ MSRP new at time of purchase.
mobo was unpackaged, cpu installed, everything else in mobo box was factory sealed. no dust or signs of use on the mobo. Running Unraid, VMs, dockers, Hass, blue iris (in vm), friggate & doubletake & deepstack in dockers, NAS, emby media server, the "arr" dockers, ect, ect. its been great.
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I run HA on a Dell Optiplex 3050, which I thoroughly recommend. At the moment they can be picked up in the UK refurbished for £120 -- so cost less than a preassembled Raspberry Pi. It comes in a proper metal box with a micro form factor (MFF) not much bigger that a Pi or a NUC. It has 6 USB ports - plenty for all your dongles. For HA installation it has an SDD that is very easy to access by undoing one thumb screw to open the case then sliding out the clip-on tray. It stands horizontally by default but you can buy a stand hold it vertically if you prefer.
What processor and how much ram? Would the Dell Wyse 5050 or 5070 be better for what will be 150-200 devices including 3-4 cameras and possibly running Frigate?
If I chose a NUC and intended to run more than just home assistant on it, what OS and HA installation would i use?
As a newbie, and Network Admin, it was easy, straight to a server! Though I’m running Hubitat also though. Still undecided which is best.
It would be sweet to have you dive deeper in to the server build. I'm having a hard time getting the right cpu and motherboards that support blue iris, plex, ha, and some vm's. Anyways loved this video.
Thanks, I would love to hopefully at some point!
And what’s your conclusion is the best hardware for this apps?
Try a Asus ROG board find a older one for cheap
I have a Poweredge R320 and recently installed HA OS on it using an internal 32 Gb USB. Then I wasted a few days trying to get it to recognize the internal SATA drives. Finally I came across the little emphasized fact that HA OS only recognizes external USB drives. And in fact there seems to be no way to mount any other type of drive, as the fstab file is write protected. With HA Supervised, is it possible to get access to your internal drives again?
Hello, I am planning to move home assistant from a pi to something more powerful but always with low noise and power consumption.
Could you suggest me some specs? I am thinking to use an old mac mini late 2012 (i7 16gb ram). do you think it will be better then a modern raspi?
Currently I have a pi4 4gb + a 128 gb ssd with raspi os + docker with home assistant core, mqtt, zigbee2mqtt, nodered and frigate with 4 480p cameras.
The most of the cpu usage is from frigate, if I enable the detection the cpu is always at 100% and system become unstable.
I'm running HA as a Docker container on an Unraid machine. It's an AMD Threadripper CPU 1st gen. Quite nice setup.
hi I have had home assistant running on proxmox for the almost 2 years but I have had a problem where my homeassistant vm stop running because it ran out of space on the virtual drive. Simple fix was to increase the size of the drive. I have done this over 3 times and even moved my home assistant VM to 500Gb drive. the disk allocation for homeassistant was 80GB then moved to 100 and so on. i don't know why my HA database is so large. I have influxdb install and i amnot sure if this is also contributing to the large database. can you help me control the size of the ha database and also pin point what is casing this problem?
For the used office PC option, are you running it via VM or treating it like a generic x86-64 install?
I Run a Tanix tx3 4/64 with armbian, very cheap and reliable setup.
Another option is an HP microserver. They don't have the redundancy of a full server but are small, take little power and do not make a noise like a jet taking off. Loads of upgrade options for the newer ones and plenty on eBay etc.
Yep also good, I've still got one running a firewall somewhere!
Hi Lewis, I have a Raspberry Pi 3, but think I need to move up to something more powerful (50+ zigbee items connected, plus some wifi stuff).
Is it easy to move to another platform (e.g. Intel NUC) and if I got a Pi 4, could I just swap the SD card to the 4 and work away?
What about router/accesspoints/mesh systems, what do you suggest with a 2 story home with about 60 smart home wifi devices?
I'm eyeing one of Simply NUCs with the embedded AMD - I really want that ECC RAM, because I also want it as a NAS and NextCloud setup.
Unfortunately I could not use my Nas or old PC for media center because I was not ably to install it with supervisor. Neither container no core installation does not support it. Only OS method but in that case I no longer may use Nas or PC for other purpose.
Can I run full HA on a Synology NAS? I thought I heard somewhere that HA will run on the NAS but with some limitations.
I'm running HA on a QNAP NAS (and I believe the video should have mentioned this as one of the best options).
Assuming Synology has a similar underlying Linux distro and supports containers, I'd guess it should be possible just as well.
@@sleeeptube Thank you. It does, i'll have to test it out.
I run HA on a Chuwi Herobox. It is cheap, low power usage, completely quit, much faster than a Pi and more reliable. There are a lot possible ways to run HA on this PC. For the moment I use a VM on windows 10.Not the best option but very reliable. It automatically starts a backup VM when something goes wrong. Thanks for the videos
Cool, haven't heard or seen that one before!
I just bought a t320. Which processor did you upgrade to? Everything I’m seeing says the e5-2470 v2 is the Max you can go. Video looks like you went with even more powerful cpu. Just curious
Hey Lewis. I'm planning to build a home server/NAS running Nix OS and want to use Home assistant OS for ease of use. I want it to be as lightweight on the server hardware resources as possible and thinking LXC is the way to go? Or should I just skip Nix OS and run Proxmox(which just seems to complicate stuff even more)?
do you have a recommended Intel NUC that I should buy? I currently have homeassistant running on an Odroid but think i'm starting to outgrow it and would like a more powerful system
With Raspberry Pi prices currently i consider to go with the used nuc i5 6200u option. Its maybe 50-60€ more expensive but so much more powerfull while still low power consumption. What do you think?
Installed it on my homelab server that runs tons of other stuff too. HP ML350 G6 48gb ram and 2x6 core CPUs with ESXI 6. The VM consumes next to no resources so the machine is completely overpowered but luckily it shares resources with other VMs.
Nice, we have similar setups!
I have an old MacMini I run it on - I installed Ubuntu on the Macmini first and run Home Assistant in Docker. Works very well - thanks for the ideas though in case I have to make a change down the road.
Were you on a raspberry pi before going to the mac mini? Did you notice a difference in speed/reliability?
What's the implications of running it on a RP 3B Vs a 4? Current prices for RP4 are extortionate! I get that a 4's faster etc. but does HA need the extra resources?
Thanks for vid. I’m running on an Intel NUC 10 but I have put HA on Intel NUC 6’s and it goes great. By the time you get a Pi 4, power supply, SD and case, I can get a brand new Intel NUC 6 on special/clearance for about the same price with SSD and RAM so it is a great option.
Sounds like a great little system!
Cool video, I can install on the same Raspberry Pi both NAS and Home Assistant ?
Great Vid! HA running in it's own VM via unraid.... Blue Iris (now with Deepstack integrated) providing the ipcam feed from its own decicated W10VM..... I did try running HA in a Docker but couldn't get around the lack of the supervisor..... Hardware is "old" enterprise gear.... as you discussed, the performance/cost ratio is through the roof.....couldn't be happier, apart from the electricity bill!
Haha nice one Paul, yes that's one thing is the electricity bill!!
@@EverythingSmartHome two servers, one (big) PoE switch and an Omada controller...... 450W 24/7/365
Yeah fairly takes its toll, I was using 1100w at the other house for 3 servers and 2 x 48 Poe switches as well as some micro servers..they were not happy when they got the power bill 🤣
@@EverythingSmartHome Ouch! You've made me feel a whole lot better!
I run Home Assistant on Dell T420, as a VM running ESXi 6.7.
Would a dell optiplex 7050 be good for home assistant? Also interested in running Plex on it.
HP Elitedesk 800 G1. 2nd hand on eBay for about £60, might even include SSD. Upgradeable Core i5 4th Gen. G1 Needed a special Samsung NVME if you go this route. Hands down the best platform for the bucks.
Agree, excellent value for the performance!
Excellent video, as always! Do you have any recommended "inexpensive" hardware for running pfSense? with a multi-nic card?
Thanks buddy! I like the PcEngines APU4 - great little devices! Otherwise an optiplex with a PCIe network card is great also
I think the best enterprise choice is a small rack server ...you can get this without fans :-)
Docker container in my "quick sync apps" 3770k box. Wish Home assistant supported running in HA mode, would've loved to try and run it on k8s ^_^. (Much respect from Bahrain!)
Haha maybe one day we will get there 😅 thanks, all the best!
Would you recommend running is on a Synology 2019 device 4 bay NAS ?
What kind of light you use behind the monitor?
I just don't want to keep my laptop on at all times is there a way around that
Hi, it is possible 2 run HASSIO in a MAC MINI I3 native ?
Question for anyone here where can these switches and sensors be bought reasonably? I already have around 40 toys devices. Mostly smart switches and smart plugs. I’ve just installed Home Assistant so I’m a total newbie here but I’m wanting at minimum, a motion sensor in each main room for the purpose of making smart events but wow, $40 a piece is out of hand. What I have now are mostly Kasa, but also Sonoff devices as well, and a few others, TuyaSmart, eWeLink, BN-LINK etc. any help is appreciated
PowerEdge T320, VMWare ESXi, Docker and ESXi virtual machines. A few RPi doing various things
Nice, the T320s are great, I've got 2 around somewhere!
which antenna are you using for zwave ?
At home I am using an old office pc running Ubuntu. Soon mi odroid blue will arrive and home assistant OS will run there and Plex, deepstack, UniFi... will stay on the ubuntu PC. And at work I run home assistant OS in a hyper v VM on oracle sun X4 rackmount server. This one has the database on Postgres and influx and writes a lot of data to the ssd daily. I am looking for some older enterprise ssd.
Lenovo - IdeaPad 100s 11.6" Laptop / Intel Atom Z3735F/ 2GB Memory / 32GB eMMC Flash Memory
1.5tb external usb hd
running ubuntu with home assistant in a docker
runs quite nice
Could we get a video for enterprise server set up. Like installing all home assistant on it also nas on same machine and plex :) any chance ? Thank you
I’m running HA on a VM on a Intel NUC. I know this is seen as better than using a Pi, but I find the PC to be a bit unstable with Windows updates ect. I am wondering if running HA on dedicated hardware like Home Assistant Yellow might not be better even though it has less power.
I don't know a lot about Home Assistant, I don't even use one yet, but I know that you can install it on Linux, which is way more stable than Windows.
I have a used enterprise server available, but it uses so much power that I am reluctant to use it just to switch my light on and off 😂
I like the home assistant blue for the eMMC!
Haha for sure I hear you!
How is the power consumption of a server?
I'm running a windows 10 pc on an HP i7-6700 (8gb of ram) - currently it's my blue Iris box (8 cameras) , wonder if I can run HA and possibly Deepstack etc on this same device? Or better to go down the road of odroid or nuc?
Depends on your current resource usage currently I guess but could be worth trying! You can always revert it!
Remember the NUC install runs any Intel hardware. I’m running mine on a old Mac mini
Any updates for best hardware for HA server?
Do you have any thoughts on running Home assistant as docker container on HP Thin Client T620????
That should work! Do you have one?
Does the the ssd upgrade work on the rpi3?
Just got my hands on a Dell t320 to set up a home lab after watching this, looking to upgrade the CPU as has stock 4 core in it, did you manage to get an Intel xeon E7-4850 to fit in it as thought could only take Xeon E5, great video as always
Awesome! No they only take E5s from what I remember
HP Microserver Gen8 with E3-1240 v2 processor with XPenology in a Virtual Machine
i thought i heared somewhere that you can use the NUC image on a dell Optiplex 3040
Another brilliant video! A quick question - what OS are you using on your server?
I currently have a Windows 10 running linux in a VM with HA in a docker container. I am thinking of changing the machine to linux and running everything in containers as the only other functions it performs right now is a mysql DB and file server. I think this might increase the efficiency of resource sharing.
I must confess that I am no expert and possibly know just enough to get myself in trouble!
Thanks again for the great videos.
Thank you sir!
I run ESXI but wouldn't recommend the free version of it, there are better options like Proxmox for free over the free version of ESXI. I'm lucky enough to be able to use the full version which is a completely different story. So I would recommend Proxmox for you personally.
That sounds like a good idea, again I would run VMs rather than just straight docker but entirely up to you!
Haha love it, make sure to jump in the discord if you need help or just want to come hang out with us!
@@EverythingSmartHome thanks for the advice - much appreciated.
Any chance of a BeagleBone Black install of Home Assistant? As I understand it there are some things that are different than a normal Pi install. I am looking at the BeagleBone Black because it has 7 Analog terminals along with the regular Pi pins. I purchased a BeagleBone about 6 months ago for monitoring my RV voltages. I am not a fan of ADC chips and the BeagleBone will make it so much easier with just adding a Voltage divider to each of the Analog pins, which I have about 20 pots in my toy cabinet. Another GREAT video.... thanks.
Thanks! Unfortunately unlikely as I don't have one of these and don't have need for one at this moment in time, apologies
Sup! Started with a Raspberry Pi 4 and now I am using a server (Xeon x5675 CPU's) with Windows 10 Workstation loaded on it and running HA OS and PLEX. Struggled my ass off to get this working. The server had nothing, only the Motherboard, CPUs, and 32gig of RAM.
What a coincidence.....I just ordered a second hand HP Prodesk 600 G2 with Core i5 6600T, 16GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD for € 225,00. It will arrive tomorrow. I'm planning to run Proxmox on it.
I also looked for a second hand NUC. But a Prodesk was more value for money.
Nice one Mark, I'm sure you'll enjoy the new system when it arrives if it hasn't already! Yes you really can't beat used office pcs for price to performance!
Hi, great tutorial.
I love your video.
Waiting for tutorial on how to install HO with supervisor on TrueNas in Virtual Machine.
I am using HP T630
Thanks! I wouldn't recommend HA on TrueNAS VM, bhyve isn't very feature rich and is pretty basic
@@EverythingSmartHome What would you recommend to run Truneas and HO with supervisor on one machine?
Is it possible ?
Sure, use ESXI or Proxmox or similar
@@EverythingSmartHome I'll check it , Thank you
Yea but what about a good monitor that's touchscreen?
Hi, where can I find your screen wallpaper? I'm searching for it since your first videos, your desk looks so fancy!. You have a great youtube channel, I love your videos :)
I'll see if I can find it for you! Thank you very much, appreciate it! 🙏
@@EverythingSmartHomeThank you so much!
Great video, thank you.
Any chance you know if it's possible to install hassio on a regular laptop as "bare metal" (not as VM)?
Thanks! I prefer VM personally 😅
Yes you need to use etcher on the SSD/HDD that is going on your laptop with the x86_x64 generic image from HASS website.
Balls to the walls, running a Dell R410 with 12 cores and 32GB of RAM. I use to have some random hard drives pulled from old systems but on my last upgrade I tossed in four 2TB Seagate Purple drives. They're made for CCTV use but since I also have a VM running Blue Iris it was a no brainier. I need to max out the RAM on the server and toss on some HP Multiseat clients and have a single machine to have six users so I can quit having to deal with six separate machines. Before I do that I need to get a 4U case so I can toss in some SSD drives for the Clients.
Hey nice, I have an r420 running for other things at the moment too, as well as an r320. Love those servers!
HP thin client T520 (€10 second-hand) 8gb ram, 250gb SSD(upgraded for €30), 6-7 watt if HDD drives are not running. Proxmox as OS, where I run HA in a VM besides Nextcloud (fileserver), Pihole and bitwarden.
How does this setup perform? I also have an HP T520. Doesn’t Proxmox use too much resources?
@@pmeinma It performs well enough, opening HA is instant and no obvious delay is present when executing an action trough zigbee or wifi trough ESPhome. I don't have camara's or extensive data visualization integrated in HA. Proxmox itself is very responsive. I did not update to PVE 7 yet, I am still on 6.4.
I bought a used Intel Pentium NUC for 85€ and I'm running Home Assistant and Nextcloud (with 2 RAID1 configured USB sticks) on it.
Nice!!
Any thoughts on a HPE MicroServer for a "balls to the wall" option? Want to run HA, NAS, VPN, Plex, etc... and this looked like a good option with low power usage considering what it can do.
Depends on how hard you run each of those things but sure they are good little servers
I started out with HA on a Hyper-V VM on my home server. I ran into issues when I wanted to add a zigbee dongle and realised that Hyper-V had no easy way to pass through a USB device. This inspired my move to RPi4. I've since thrown together a proxmox server and am toying with migrating HA over, although it'd be for no real benefit- as the RPi4 only handles HA, NodeRed, and MQTT. So probably not worth the migration.
I understand your pain with Hyper-V, I try to steer people away from Hyper-V as much as possible these days 😟
There might not be a benefit in terms of performance BUT you could look at in terms of a benefit of expanding your knowledge and experience 😁
I'm running HA in Hyper-V, I was able to pass USB devices that are USB to Serial adaptors (zigbee or zwave dongle) but it is not 100% reliable. I have a conbee2 so I'm running deconz in the same windows machine that has hyper-v, but in windows
I'm going to start playing with home assistant. I'll start with my existing hardware a home server I put together for plex and minecraft. Only has i7 9700k, 64gb ram, 48tb of hard drives and dual 3080s.
Nice one, enjoy!
Running HA as a VM on Unraid. Never looking back
Great setup!
I am setting up an HPE ProLiant 380 G7 144GB RAM and 5TB RAID6 with VMware ESXi host to run Home Assistant and more. One problem though, anyone using a raspberry pi as a remote serial device for z-wave, zigbee, Esphome device setup or UPS USB devices? I have seen ser2net setups (and are using that for z-wave today with homeseer) . Anyone with a setup that can deal with restarts and automatic reconnect? A video on the subject would be great!
I bought some aging server hardware, and I'm already running freenas with plex. I plan to try to get HA going in a virtual machine on that. I didn't spend a ton on it ($150 I think?). I added some memory (also pretty inexpensive) - 128GB RAM, tons of HD space, 24 cores @ 2GHz. I have no idea how far that will take me - I do want to do surveillance stuff, and I just don't know what I'm going to encounter while doing that. I already have 3 reolinks, but I have no idea where to start with those.
Sounds like your getting a ton of value there and a nice setup!
@@EverythingSmartHome Thanks!! :-). I did appreciate the video, I felt a little validated. I must have been inspired, too, because after watching the video I literally just got H.A. installed in the last few minutes. I'm not even sure what do do next, now. I have a bunch of Sonoff things in the boxes (the zigbee bridge and all of the sensors) but I guess I am supposed to replace firmware on those, so that'll wait a bit... (Tasmota), I have zigbee switches from GE in the house already (which, for those, I'm not sure what to do about alexa - I still want voice control). I don't now how the pieces actually fit together. The Reolinks might be a decent place to start, since they're not in service, and I doubt I have to install firmware. But I'm not sure what the right software is for that. Everything is a rabbit hole. I know I'm supposed to install MQTT, but I don't exactly know why yet. (and in the wings are some nodemcus for other projects once I'm comfortable). I guess I'll try to tackle the reolinks?
Hey that's awesome well done! Come join us on discord, we have a large community who helps each other out 😅
@@EverythingSmartHome OK - A discord rabbit hole? I'm in. Maybe in the morning, as it's 5:30am and I'm exhausted. The 'advanced method' has left me without the supervisor store. I'm currently wondering if it's worth it for me to put it on an actual VM instead of a freenas jail. Maybe that's something for the discord tomorrow. G'nite, and thanks again for the kick in the pants to get started.
As someone who is starting to get into the smart home scene. After doing a week of online research I came to the conclusion I want to start working with home assistant. I've also concluded I want to use a mini pc so Ill be able to use it for a very long time. My experience is that the intel nuc is recommended alot. But I was wondering if other mini pc should also be fine to use?
for example: Fujitsu Esprimo Q920 Mini-PC 0-Watt Intel Core i5 128 GB SSD or the Bmax B2 Plus Mini-pc Intel Celeron N4120 8GB DDR4 128GB SSD. I hope you can give some insight.
Greeting from a new fan.
Nice one! Most of the PCs you'll find will be plenty powerful enough to run HA!
I wish you had mentioned Synology in detail. You teased us in the beginning...
Great content mate. Subbed. Would a Intel NUC 5i5MYHE mini desktop PC Windows 10 8GB ram, 256 GB SSD be good enough for HA plus running blue iris software for my cameras? Cheers.
Thanks John! It would really depend on how many cameras, what resolution etc but its definitely not a bad place to start!
Thank you for the video, can you explain/show how you can run several systems on the NUC or the PC like HA, NAS, and surveillance.
ESXI, Proxmoxx etc.
Here i have a NUCi5, with 32GB of memory. Besides HA it runs some VM's, with no hassle.
@@wotnix thanks for your reply, is this the same as docker containers?
@@m.romaithi6217
No.
For me it's easyer.
Although VM use more resourses.
In the future is try Docker.
So if you go with the balls to the wall option, is it more complicated to load HA and run with all the bells and whistles - with zero IT knowledge?
I would say it's a bit more complicated yes
@@EverythingSmartHome would you consider doing a tutorial on this ? Or are you aware of any other channel that you think has done a good one already ?
Which main OS do you use for your enterprise server running HA and other things you mentioned?
P.S.- I have all the equipment for a server but I lacks software knowledge. But ready to learn 😉
I'm a Linux guy and been running it since the beginning and I prefer Debian but for a n00bie that is starting out then I would recommend Ubuntu Server.
I use ESXI but wouldn't recommend the free version for beginners, Proxmox is much better in terms of the free versions
@@EverythingSmartHome DITTO!!
For a VM server then I would go with Proxmox or XCP-NG and use Ubuntu Server for the Client side of things. However with Docker and Kubernetes becoming more and more of a standard there is not point really to do a VM unless you plan to run multiple operating systems.
I would say Debian as this is supported by the Home Assistant team. So you get instructions and reassurance that it has been tested. If you take your debian installation beyond what their instructions advise they wont support you though
I have a Supermicro X9QR7-TF+ with 4xIntel® Xeon® E5-4650 v2
Hi, thank you very much for this video!
I was just considering upgrading my VM to a dedicated system (my base PC is not strong enough), this video came on a great timing! Thank you!
My question is regarding home assistant blue, it uses eMMC, is it stable enough? Will it be ok with maria DB and influxDB?
Thanks for watching! eMMC has different wear indicators etc I believe to SD cards so much more suitable for that type of application so should be fine 👍
Wouldn't it be really nice if Home Assistant could spread itself out over multiple devices? One could start with a raspberry pi and then add on a 2nd or 3rd raspberry pi, NAS or NUC to improve performance. I'm sure that would be a big ask from the development team - but it would also be a differentiator, it would almost completely eliminate sizing errors and it would provide a ton of flexibility and versatility for expansion - especially when the alternative is to just buy a better system and then migrate everything.
You would lose performance doing that. Short answer is that you're better off waiting on a CPU & disk that's IO is saturated than waiting for a CPU response over even a 10gig ethernet(which is costly in and of itself). The machines that are capable of that use specialized hardware that's VERY expensive to cut that latency down. This was definitely an oversimplification, but yea that's why we don't see hardly any pieces of hardware doing that.
Now what "could" work is lets say you have 3 machines that replicate between each other, but operate independently and then you have 1 master machine that feeds whole commands connected together to 1 box at a time. To keep latency down it would need to be unconnected commands. So for instance if you've got a doorbell setup to play an audio file and you're utilizing a couple different integrations &/or services to do it then that whole block needs to go to 1 machine to ensure things get done in a timely manner and orderly manner. If at the same time you had water leak detected on a sensor and needed to send an SMTP response then that could go to a different machine.
@@ImaITman Thabks for the detailed and thoughtful response. One thing I haven’t seen (and I’ve looked), is documentation or a video on what you *should* do for the best possible, most responsive system. Most of what I see is a narrow “How to do ” or they explain all the different ways you could implement something - with little to no discussion about what you *should* do - or which one is best.
I’d really like to see a living document that is updated regularly that discusses how to build the best possible Home Assistant system - without tempering the advice due to cost. It could discuss the pro’S and con’s of each approach - but end with a clear recommendation on which method would be “best” from a performance standpoint. I know that HA can be installed a few different ways - but not sure which is best performance wise. Then there’s an AppDaemon vs NodeRed to think about. Install Moswuitto or use the built in MQTT solution. iCloud vs iCloud3? Replace the SQLITE DB? With what? I know that’s a huge ask - and some of it is bound to be subjective - but I’m aN IT guy and sorting through all of the options trying to understand them seems pretty overwhelming when first stating. I can’t imagine how it must make a non-IT person feel.
This time around, I chose to implement HA in a docker container on an Asustor NAS - along with 10 other containers - and CPU usage is higher than I like to see - so I just bought a mini PC with a Core i9-9880H, 32 GB of RAM and 5TB of internal SSD as well as 20TB of USB3.0 attached non-SSD disk space. The plan is to install ProxMox on it and run all/most of my Home Assistant stuff on a Linux VM on it - but I’m still wondering if I should stick with Docker or install HA natively - and also is it best to leave MQTT on the NAS - or move it to the new PC also. (After reading you last reply- I’m guessing you’d say move it to the new mini-pc. Same with AppDaemon and/or NodeRed? What’s the best database to use?
If you know of a good video/document that is mostly up to date - and has the recommendations I’m looking for, please share it! I think I bought more than enough compute power for a very good system and I don’t want to kneecap it by making some stupid decisions about how/where to install pieces of the solution.
I tried an old server once but the noise level and electricity usage was far too high. Now back running multiple pi's
Yeah for sure it's definitely not for everyone! Glad you found something suitable for you