I like Ben, but what he must realise is he didn't win his seat he only came 3rd in the constituency he was running for. Richard Tice won Boston Skegness seat and has become an MP. Don't fall apart now, Reform UK, Britain needs a party like yours. Don't let Britain down now!
@sandramunroe5073 Hopefully, Ben will stay with Reform UK, Britain needs this party that talks common sense, as none of the other parties do, that's for certain.
There is an error in the title of this piece. Ben said "This is NOT a civil war". He didn't say "this is now a civil war". I really hope Ben returns to the party.
I'm not so sure. Richard & Ben built the party ip and Farage made decision rather late. I know a lot of people who were not happy voting Reform when Farage took over.
Not true, many people are put off by Nigel, who has too much baggage. Tice has zero charisma. Ben and David Bull were the only presentable people there.
@@arleneevans6342 And there were a LOT more people who WERE happy voting for it - as figures show. It would have gone nowhere with Tice at the helm, though he's a good enough bloke.
But Reform isn’t a Democratic Party. Ben has confirmed this. Why on earth would you join a political organisation, pay a membership fee but have no say how it’s run whatsoever?
Disappointed in Ben. This should be sorted behind closed doors. It's early days and he should have given time for the party to devolop. Without Farage they would not be where they are at the moment. Get the party established first
Shame he was not elected as an MP.. I have an utmost respect for Ben Habib and his policies fr all he says. He aways speak sense. He is one of the best politicians. I hope he stays in the Reform Party. I would vote for him.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Ben, you may well have a valid point on this issue, but why discuss it in public? You could have had this discussion in private with Nigel, and in my opinion, that is the right way to proceed. As for your role; the Reform Party needs your skills and intellect, and I am certain there is a top job for you in future. Be aware that the main-stream media are never on your side and cannot be trusted. Do not give them free ammunition.
GB News getting worst with their tabloid head lines, Ben saying 'this is not a civil war' and the firs thing they put 'this IS a civil war'. Ridiculous
Rome wasn't built in a day. Ben should be more understanding and help grow the party before trying to cause division and blurting it all out to the media
Ben Habib did and has helped build Reform, I have never heard anything but sence out of his mouth, if Farage doesn't keep him, I'm beginning to wonder if he's on the level!
I like Ben but it does smack in the face of sour grapes the party should come before a single person’s glory and it seems he’s upset about losing his position and would be willing to scapegoat others
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Ben, you're better than this. Take a page out of David Bull's book...pull together...have these conversations behind closed doors and stopp airing division in public. All the credibilty you've built up is being withered away your public bleating on about not having a position you wanted. You tried to get into parlaiment and lost. Accept it and keep fighting. Forgive me for saying this but shame on you.
Ben thanks for letting the voters know how Reform has been set up and the party does not need a "Führer" who has the only say on what the party stands for in politics!
He has not been fired. It was considered that a debuty leader should be an MP rightly or wrongly. This can always be reconsidered. Ben is a massive asset to Reform. I hope they can re-discuss this and admit if they have got it wrong.
I have to say, no disrespect to Ben but IMHO he’s not doing himself any favours… looks like he’s a little too much like the Conservative Party member. So is he in or out? All this should have been discussed & sorted behind closed doors.
Ben has just lost a load of my respect. Their is no need for this. Nigel already announced he was going to democratise the party after the election. Why do you need to write to the paper complaining about something that is already being planned. Why not just contact Nigel directly and offer to lead that project instead of going on the news?
I'm so disappointed in Ben Habib. Whatever his views, he shouldn't have gone public. Discretion and professionalism are absolutely key. Why is he critiquing the Party now at this sensitive time. I'm convinced that Farage will structure things at the most appropriate time. It smacks of sour grapes to me. If it's not, Ben, your timing is atrocious. I think you have blotted your copy book now. Very sad and unnecessary.
So why is he having all these discussions with the media and not the Party? Of course he gives a damn and he can't hide it. He's acting like a spoilt kid and demonstrating he's not up to the position.
Nigel has already committed to democratizing the party, but why is Ben having a meltdown about the next election when they just had an election a week before he wrote the article? I can see why he was removed.
Sorry Ben, I am going off of you after being a huge admirer. They've only been elected a week, Nigel said that they will professionalize and he's put in place the man to achieve that. Sorry it sounds like sour grapes and I have not time for that.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Ben Habib joined Reform U.K and stood for election as a Reform U.K candidate (on two occasions) knowing what the party structure was. Only now does he voice criticism? 🤔
He said "This is NOT a civil war, not "This is now a civil war." Ben Habib is absolutely right. Refom has to become a political party, not just an organisation dominated in every respect by a few people. That means it has to have a constition, making it very clear how senior people in the party are chosen and the qualifications they need for office. It means the vetting of potential candidates being done by a committee chosen by the members and each constituency deciding who will be its candidate rather than the party leader just distributing candidates all over the country.
Habib had a jealous public tantrum when Lee Anderson joined Reform and now he's doing it again. Farage is making the right decisions, it's not all about Habib, he wasn't elected and should back those that were. I think Reform should let Habib go, he's a liability.
As a Reform voter I completely agree. If anyone is to take Reform seriously, it must publish articles and a constitution re: democratisation of the party. As much as we love Richard as Nigel, we are not voting for the Farage dictatorship.
"Early stage"?! It's been going in one form or another for FIVE YEARS! One of the reasons I quit as Brexit Party coordinator for Glasgow was the democratic deficit. It felt a bit ridiculous to be banging on about the affront to democracy that was the Brexit betrayal while the 'party' itself was totally undemocratic. 🤦 I hope Ben succeeds but I'm not holding my breath.
Ben is right, it is not about one man now, it is a movement that does require democratisation As usual he talks good sound common-sense Listen to him Nigel
I love Ben. He’s been removed from position as Deputy so obviously, he has to speak about it. He’s completely correct in what he says about democratising the party now they have a foothold in parliament. I really hope he gets a new position in the party’s leadership because they absolutely need him. He didn’t win his seat this time but he would’ve made an excellent MP & hopefully, he’ll make an excellent minister one day.
Agree with Ben. Reform belongs to the people who voted to get 5 candidate's into Westminster. I certainly would have voted for Ben if he was my candidate.
I don't think we are at a stage in our national history where we need a party where the members can shape policies. I understand that all the mainstream parties aren't influenced by their members, but that doesn't mean Reform having a single voice that shapes the party is a bad thing. As a voter, all I want is a party that has the right ideas, coherently structured and that can be carried out effectively.
Ben Habib has done a lot for Reform banging the drum for the new party, particularly from the very early days he is someone who is the heart and soul of the party, but like all parties, there are members who have a different take on politics etc. the bigger Reform will get so this will increase. I hope Ben stays with Reform because his day will come when the inevitable By-Elections will flow, disenchantment with the Labour government will grow and Ben will win and stand proud in Parliament.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Oh dear...if you can't say something good say nothing. Most people will have realised he was hurt by being demoted... but Nigel is the leader. All leaders of parties choose their front bench, however many MPs they have.
Ben is everything that reform needs to succeed and continue to win the next election. There’s more roles to play in the party. Advisor comes to mind. I wish we had more politicians like Ben.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
He is correct in that respect but because Reform is a fledgling party it has to do what is best for its beginnings. If it expands and gathers more seats and M.Ps then that situation has to be redressed
It seems logical that Richard Tice would have the Deputy Leader Position having won a seat in parliament and been trusted to be leader of the Party prior to Nigel taking over and standing for the parliamentary seat in Clacton. Having said that I think it is a fair point that Ben Habib brings up, and no doubt other parties would have picked up on it in future election races. Hopefully this will be addressed at some point, well before the next elections.
Remember because of Nigel farage we have MPs and over 4million votes, in 2029 it's between reform UK and labour, please don't argue , the conservatives are good at arguing amongst themselves let's not follow the conservatives
Ben has no stake in this party other than support……..Richard tice kept the party going with investing his own money to keep things going,as with farage……so Richard was big enough to hand over leadership to further the cause….the very least Nigel could do is make him deputy.I like Ben but it’s a grown up world and certain protocols need maintaining as the electorate believes in other matters.
There is definitely personal grievance because otherwise he wouldn’t be doing it so publicly. I know all politicians do need to have an ego and that comes with pride. But this ranting does his personal reputation no good and we already know Ben is better than this… if he just dug a little deeper targeted a subsequent bi-election and it would be a very different outcome. It’s simply not a big deal in the scale of things and what the UK has to overcome is surely more important to Ben as well as the nation.
Appreciate you must feel irritated, but please give it a rest now. The change made logistical sense, you didn't win your seat and nigel is reliant on the party winning ANY seats. Frankly, if there was a vote oj this youd have been removed anyways. And btw, you criticised the tories for being at each others throats and now doing the same.
Disappointing that Ben is talking negatively to the press about Reform, shows disloyalty. All the other political parties in Parliament their deputy leaders are elected MP's, so it's understandable why Nigel replaced Ben with Richard Tice. Before that there were 2 Deputy Leaders of Reform, the other being Dr. David Bull who from his tweet understood and accepted it with good grace.
G.B. News stop stiring things up for Reform. Ben you speak very well,as far as the people are concerned you are still part of this party. Also I think Nigel and Richard will sort it all out.
ReformUK LLC fails this test when challenged with Tony Benn's Questions to Power - his belief that those in positions of economic, social and political power should always be asked five questions: “What power have you got?” “Where did you get it from?” “In whose interests do you use it?” “To whom are you accountable?” “How do we get rid of you?
Ben is a great asset to the party and much appreciated by supporters. The important thing is to uphold the principles on which the party was created: patriotism, integrity, freedom of speech and the press, the promotion of British values and culture, freedom of religion without the party or factions within it becoming overtly religious. Supporters dont want it to become a Tory Party mk II. and we need to be choosy which Tory MPs are allowed to join Reform, because many are rogues who were implicated in creating the mess which Reform now has to clean up. We should not model ourselves on any existing party, one of our selling points should be that we are not like the others. Remember at all times that we are the party of common sense.
@@martinmcdonald4207 all of the political parties are also companies. They have to be in order to have income and hold assets as an organisation (donations, offices, equipment, staff, etc). How did you think it worked?
@@stephenjon3502 We already knew this before the election. Other share owning members gave their shares to Farage, because they wanted him to have majority control to shape and steer the party. This will obviously change in due course, but hopefully will not be rushed! Its Farage's party and policies we voted for. It was his "contract with the people", written by him. We should be weary of calls for him to give up too much control too fast while the party is so young and still being built. Lest it become just another establishment blob.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Ben Habib wiping his arse in the middle of the street. Wonder why the people of Willingborough did`nt give him the nod. He needs to shut up with his public bleating.
I liked Ben Habib and the way he talked. But he didn't get elected and should get over it. He could stand in the next reasonable by-election to try and join the 5 MPs there already. Swallow your pride ,repress your ego , and live with it ! !
Nigel has just stepped up the deputy leader is best to be in the House of Commons for the rest of it at least let the party get its feet on the floor but the whole party needs a good check on who goes where from top to bottom with no hasty decision that have to be changed. Ben should not speak to soon he is doing damage to the party that he says he supports well maybe he is not good for the party?
Ben are you in our out? I think Ben is very good however why is he not keeping this in-house if everything is ok? There are too many people wanting to put a different spin on this as in the title of this.
I’m sorry Ben, I can’t agree with you, for the simple reason - you believe the main parties are democratic, when they’re not. All of the main parties are owned by special interests groups. If you allow Reform to be like the other main parties, you lose control of the party. I want Nigel Farage and Richard Tice in charge - without being influenced by the WEF mob. At the moment, there is no such thing as democracy in the U.K. Reform must never try to emulate the main parties. I think Ben is a great speaker, but he is unfortunately wrong on this occasion.
@cyberlizardcouk Also, the corrupt BBC, Charles 4 news, ITV news, Sky News, which are far lefties, will be reporting that Reform UK are having troubles already, they don't want to feed the corrupt mainstream media.
You mean stop showing us all that they are dysfunctional, it's a one man band, the Nigel Farage show and at the moment he seems more concerned about Trump, Clacton is already a distant memory.
Ben Habib would have made a good MP...however...he didnt win his seat so there had to be a rethink of the pecking order..its just how things are. He needs to get over it.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Ben Habib has a ;point, Farage tends to act as an dictator, he has a record of it, it's him or nobody, that cannot last, he must allow other personalities to gain following.
I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT BEN DIDN'T WIN HIS SEAT, BUT THE TREATMENT OF BEN WAS TERRIBLE HE WAS A GREAT ASSET TO THE PARTY AND HE WAS THERE LONG BEFORE NIGEL, HE CONTINUALLY SUPPORTS NORTHERN IRELAND AND THE TREATMENT OF THE CORRUPT EU
We are far out from a time when a reform victory is possible and right now it is simply more efficient to work as a company. One of Nigel's actions that makes him unique among leftist politicians is his hard fighting for democracy through Proportional representation and governing ourselves without the EU etc. I'm sure he would not let this remain until election day and it seems to me that Ben habib is just stirring up unnecessary controversy and setting the party back. Ben is right but what he is doing is unnecessary.
Ben should be a candidate in a predominantly Muslim area and convince Muslims not to vote along sectarian lines but in accordance with the interests of the country they chose to live in.
If I vote for a party, I expect that party to act on behalf of the people who voted for them. To listen intently to what the people want, then implement their wishes. Just because we got you into parliament, don't suddenly think it's ok to just do what you want. If I pay to be a member, I expect to have a vote and a say. Anything other is not democracy. If this party has just got in for their own personal gains, then there is no point voting them in. They will be the same as the other two parties. To take money and make a party a Ltd company, is only democratic, If the shareholders ( the paying members) have a vote and say.
Ben is entitled to speak as he sees it and also being sacked is NEVER easy especially when it comes out of the blue just after you have been working so hard and he has got a point. He is still saying 'we' so he's still banging on the same political drum so let's hope this hiccup gets resolved asap.
I am a firm supporter of Ben Habib. I seriously believe without him the REFORM UK would not have reached the support level it achieved and he was one of the main reasons I decided to vote for the party long before Nigel Farage became leader. He should be recognised as a main ingredient of the party and allowed to.play a very active part in creating a Reform Uk Party Government after the constant failures of the 2 main, traditional parties, who between them have destroyed this once great nation over the last few decades.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
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I like Ben, but what he must realise is he didn't win his seat he only came 3rd in the constituency he was running for. Richard Tice won Boston Skegness seat and has become an MP. Don't fall apart now, Reform UK, Britain needs a party like yours. Don't let Britain down now!
He get this and not mad he just said… he still love the party and policy . He just talk common sense xx
@@tracywilson753but if you have not got seat in parliament. Ben needs to put his dummies back in the pram in all honesty
He is talking on behalf of Reform not against it.
@tracywilson753 Fingers crossed Ben stays with Reform UK, Britain needs them all.
@sandramunroe5073 Hopefully, Ben will stay with Reform UK, Britain needs this party that talks common sense, as none of the other parties do, that's for certain.
Ben said it is NOT a civil war.
Or I am sure you Daily Hate ...erm... "readers" prefer "Ben Habib has so far not ruled out it being a civil war in Reform UK."
But Ben is 100% right. It is a plc not a membership with voting rights
Farage like trump wants to lead a dictatorship
There is an error in the title of this piece. Ben said "This is NOT a civil war". He didn't say "this is now a civil war". I really hope Ben returns to the party.
He said he will clean the bogs if that's what it takes the get Reform to where it needs to be!
Yeah, def clickbait!
Please stay on, Ben.
He technically hasn't left
@@Davidwilliams-lk7hb Yes, I realised that later.
Without Nigel Farage, Reform UK would probably not be represented by any MPs in Parliament at all.
I'm not so sure. Richard & Ben built the party ip and Farage made decision rather late. I know a lot of people who were not happy voting Reform when Farage took over.
Not true, many people are put off by Nigel, who has too much baggage. Tice has zero charisma. Ben and David Bull were the only presentable people there.
@MandyAustin-nl4cn
Think about what you just said then apologise.
@@arleneevans6342most ridiculous statement I’ve ever seen. You are just lying.
@@arleneevans6342 And there were a LOT more people who WERE happy voting for it - as figures show. It would have gone nowhere with Tice at the helm, though he's a good enough bloke.
Ben habbib is a good talker but he needs to step back keep silent and support the party once elected then talk of democracy
But Reform isn’t a Democratic Party. Ben has confirmed this. Why on earth would you join a political organisation, pay a membership fee but have no say how it’s run whatsoever?
So you want to cancel him
Disappointed in Ben. This should be sorted behind closed doors. It's early days and he should have given time for the party to devolop. Without Farage they would not be where they are at the moment. Get the party established first
Completely agree Ben should realise by airing this the media will make the most of it
Shame he was not elected as an MP..
I have an utmost respect for Ben Habib and his policies fr all he says. He aways speak sense. He is one of the best politicians.
I hope he stays in the Reform Party. I would vote for him.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Ben, you may well have a valid point on this issue, but why discuss it in public? You could have had this discussion in private with Nigel, and in my opinion, that is the right way to proceed. As for your role; the Reform Party needs your skills and intellect, and I am certain there is a top job for you in future. Be aware that the main-stream media are never on your side and cannot be trusted. Do not give them free ammunition.
I 2nd that
GB News getting worst with their tabloid head lines, Ben saying 'this is not a civil war' and the firs thing they put 'this IS a civil war'. Ridiculous
Looks like a Leftie has been hired on the RUclips side of things.
shock Journalism . All private news programs are firstly interested in rating. News always comes second
GB News looking for cheap clicks! Shame on you, people’s channel, yeh right 🙄
@@jmajor1915 They've always been tabloid.
Reform UK need to keep it together and sort out their differences behind closed doors.
Rome wasn't built in a day. Ben should be more understanding and help grow the party before trying to cause division and blurting it all out to the media
He should go back to his own country.
It really seems that Ben has his head in the clouds. There's so much work to be done before reform can even contemplate a democratic structure.
He is not trying to cause division and there is none. Perhaps he needs to be patient.
@@whatnextincomo This video was clickbait!
Ben Habib did and has helped build Reform, I have never heard anything but sence out of his mouth, if Farage doesn't keep him, I'm beginning to wonder if he's on the level!
Given what Ben said I'd adjust the inflammatory, incorrect title of the video.....
he did not win his seat, so he could not carry in his position . Nigel did say they are going to restructure. So there is no problem
nigel is the leader end of. he is the best
Do you think that sounds like a normal person?
@@richardgallagher4880Yes.
@@El.Cid17 How can you judge?
@@El.Cid17
A normal person would try and refute any of the evidence against that proposition.
Bit kulty in it.
@@viper_fanUrsula von der leyen told me.
I like Ben but it does smack in the face of sour grapes the party should come before a single person’s glory and it seems he’s upset about losing his position and would be willing to scapegoat others
He's correct in what he says. The party needs democratic principles.
I don’t see it that way at all.
It’s a different party not the usual , therefore do not do as the others have ! and anyway there is no true democracy .
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Ben is amazing and needs to stay whatever happens. Remember united we stand divided we will fall!! 🇬🇧🏴
United in what?
He's a ffffforegner🙄
Ben, you're better than this. Take a page out of David Bull's book...pull together...have these conversations behind closed doors and stopp airing division in public. All the credibilty you've built up is being withered away your public bleating on about not having a position you wanted. You tried to get into parlaiment and lost. Accept it and keep fighting. Forgive me for saying this but shame on you.
Exactly. I don't know what the hell he thinks he's doing.
Agreed
Ben thanks for letting the voters know how Reform has been set up and the party does not need a "Führer" who has the only say on what the party stands for in politics!
Spot on. Come on Ben give it a rest.
This is true I agree with him, but he should say this privately.
Title is WRONG!! Its NOT a civil war, please change it to match the thumbnail 👍🤦
He has not been fired. It was considered that a debuty leader should be an MP rightly or wrongly. This can always be reconsidered. Ben is a massive asset to Reform. I hope they can re-discuss this and admit if they have got it wrong.
I am quite suprised at Ben by raising this issue he must know the media will make the most of it
He said it is NOT a civil war
I know but Nigel said at NEC that he WILL be doing this and Zia confirmed it again
I do not see this as a civil war. Ben is correct that Reform needs to consider how democracy works in the Party itself
Nigel stated at NEC that he intended to do this.
Zia stated that he was going to do this now he's chairman.
It WILL be above board
The main parties are not democratic.
I have to say, no disrespect to Ben but IMHO he’s not doing himself any favours… looks like he’s a little too much like the Conservative Party member. So is he in or out? All this should have been discussed & sorted behind closed doors.
Ben has just lost a load of my respect. Their is no need for this. Nigel already announced he was going to democratise the party after the election. Why do you need to write to the paper complaining about something that is already being planned. Why not just contact Nigel directly and offer to lead that project instead of going on the news?
I'm so disappointed in Ben Habib. Whatever his views, he shouldn't have gone public. Discretion and professionalism are absolutely key. Why is he critiquing the Party now at this sensitive time. I'm convinced that Farage will structure things at the most appropriate time. It smacks of sour grapes to me. If it's not, Ben, your timing is atrocious. I think you have blotted your copy book now. Very sad and unnecessary.
Have you listened to what Ben says here?
The vid hasn't quoted him accurately.
@bernardedwards8461 that's the trouble these days. So much editing, distorting the facts. Thanks for the heads up.
What we have here is principled man
So why is he having all these discussions with the media and not the Party?
Of course he gives a damn and he can't hide it. He's acting like a spoilt kid and demonstrating he's not up to the position.
Nigel has already committed to democratizing the party, but why is Ben having a meltdown about the next election when they just had an election a week before he wrote the article? I can see why he was removed.
Ben Habib is a lawyer. He is right and should be listened to by both Nigel and Richard.
Fine then do it in private instead of rubbishing the party
I love the honesty from reform, you don’t get that from any other politician.
well said
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Murdock disagrees.
What honesty?
@@RockinDaddy1958 Is Murdock's CV true?
Sorry Ben, I am going off of you after being a huge admirer. They've only been elected a week, Nigel said that they will professionalize and he's put in place the man to achieve that. Sorry it sounds like sour grapes and I have not time for that.
Ben has great integrity and stands by his principles!
He is a valuable asset to Reform.
Ben we need you please stay with Reform.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Ben Habib joined Reform U.K and stood for election as a Reform U.K candidate (on two occasions) knowing what the party structure was. Only now does he voice criticism? 🤔
Ben should know the right thing to do is to not go public
He said "This is NOT a civil war, not "This is now a civil war."
Ben Habib is absolutely right. Refom has to become a political party, not just an organisation dominated in every respect by a few people. That means it has to have a constition, making it very clear how senior people in the party are chosen and the qualifications they need for office. It means the vetting of potential candidates being done by a committee chosen by the members and each constituency deciding who will be its candidate rather than the party leader just distributing candidates all over the country.
Habib had a jealous public tantrum when Lee Anderson joined Reform and now he's doing it again. Farage is making the right decisions, it's not all about Habib, he wasn't elected and should back those that were. I think Reform should let Habib go, he's a liability.
First words out of Ben's mouth should have been about Nigel wanting to "professionalise" the party. Ben's implying Nigel doesn't. Dishonest!
As a Reform voter I completely agree. If anyone is to take Reform seriously, it must publish articles and a constitution re: democratisation of the party. As much as we love Richard as Nigel, we are not voting for the Farage dictatorship.
Reform doesn't need this infighting at this early stage, but I think Ben is correct about this.
Why did he join, he knew all along the set up ?
"Early stage"?! It's been going in one form or another for FIVE YEARS!
One of the reasons I quit as Brexit Party coordinator for Glasgow was the democratic deficit. It felt a bit ridiculous to be banging on about the affront to democracy that was the Brexit betrayal while the 'party' itself was totally undemocratic. 🤦
I hope Ben succeeds but I'm not holding my breath.
@@fokkerfilms560
Why were you in a party full offoreigners?
@@El.Cid17The point of political activism is to create change.
Do you really think that a political party should be owned by two people ?
@timg1246
Are you back here after I caught you supporting the disfigurement of k1ds?
Ben is right, it is not about one man now, it is a movement that does require democratisation
As usual he talks good sound common-sense
Listen to him Nigel
I love Ben. He’s been removed from position as Deputy so obviously, he has to speak about it. He’s completely correct in what he says about democratising the party now they have a foothold in parliament. I really hope he gets a new position in the party’s leadership because they absolutely need him. He didn’t win his seat this time but he would’ve made an excellent MP & hopefully, he’ll make an excellent minister one day.
GB news is now a joke. Sorry, I meant "not" a joke. Reform: just appoint Ben as party communications director and get on with it!
Ben is great asset and a crucial part of reform,there is a place in the party for him
Agree with Ben. Reform belongs to the people who voted to get 5 candidate's into Westminster. I certainly would have voted for Ben if he was my candidate.
Bens dedication to reforms message should be bigger than his anger. Its not good
I agree with Ben, REform needs to step up now that we broken the barrier and have seats in Westminster
I don't think we are at a stage in our national history where we need a party where the members can shape policies. I understand that all the mainstream parties aren't influenced by their members, but that doesn't mean Reform having a single voice that shapes the party is a bad thing. As a voter, all I want is a party that has the right ideas, coherently structured and that can be carried out effectively.
Ben Habib has done a lot for Reform banging the drum for the new party, particularly from the very early days he is someone who is the heart and soul of the party, but like all parties, there are members who have a different take on politics etc. the bigger Reform will get so this will increase. I hope Ben stays with Reform because his day will come when the inevitable By-Elections will flow, disenchantment with the Labour government will grow and Ben will win and stand proud in Parliament.
Sort your difference out Ben habib we don't want any one to leaving reform , we need to stand together
And not on public tv either
Ben is a top class Bloke 👍🏴
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Oh dear...if you can't say something good say nothing. Most people will have realised he was hurt by being demoted... but Nigel is the leader. All leaders of parties choose their front bench, however many MPs they have.
Ben is everything that reform needs to succeed and continue to win the next election. There’s more roles to play in the party. Advisor comes to mind. I wish we had more politicians like Ben.
Grow up Ben that is stuff you talk about behind closed doors we don't need to know
I like Ben, he needs a role in the party
How about he gets elected first...
@@Hardman._ I'm sure there are over roles, a party isnt just made up of MPs
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Reform need to act and lool like a legitimate party, not a dictatorship. If Nigel is good then he will be voted in.
I think Ben habieb is out of order ,if what he is saying is true,why go public .
He is correct in that respect but because Reform is a fledgling party it has to do what is best for its beginnings. If it expands and gathers more seats and M.Ps then that situation has to be redressed
It seems logical that Richard Tice would have the Deputy Leader Position having won a seat in parliament and been trusted to be leader of the Party prior to Nigel taking over and standing for the parliamentary seat in Clacton. Having said that I think it is a fair point that Ben Habib brings up, and no doubt other parties would have picked up on it in future election races. Hopefully this will be addressed at some point, well before the next elections.
Remember because of Nigel farage we have MPs and over 4million votes, in 2029 it's between reform UK and labour, please don't argue , the conservatives are good at arguing amongst themselves let's not follow the conservatives
ITS NOT ABOUT ARGUING! if the party is not even up to the democratic standards of the other parties how can it reform ANYTHING!!
I loke ben but he's got to take this for the reform party and be a team player .
Ben has no stake in this party other than support……..Richard tice kept the party going with investing his own money to keep things going,as with farage……so Richard was big enough to hand over leadership to further the cause….the very least Nigel could do is make him deputy.I like Ben but it’s a grown up world and certain protocols need maintaining as the electorate believes in other matters.
He's advocating the same structure as the Conservatives use to elect their leaders - look how that worked-out.
There is definitely personal grievance because otherwise he wouldn’t be doing it so publicly. I know all politicians do need to have an ego and that comes with pride. But this ranting does his personal reputation no good and we already know Ben is better than this… if he just dug a little deeper targeted a subsequent bi-election and it would be a very different outcome. It’s simply not a big deal in the scale of things and what the UK has to overcome is surely more important to Ben as well as the nation.
Appreciate you must feel irritated, but please give it a rest now. The change made logistical sense, you didn't win your seat and nigel is reliant on the party winning ANY seats. Frankly, if there was a vote oj this youd have been removed anyways. And btw, you criticised the tories for being at each others throats and now doing the same.
Disappointing that Ben is talking negatively to the press about Reform, shows disloyalty. All the other political parties in Parliament their deputy leaders are elected MP's, so it's understandable why Nigel replaced Ben with Richard Tice. Before that there were 2 Deputy Leaders of Reform, the other being Dr. David Bull who from his tweet understood and accepted it with good grace.
Winston Churchill once said that the best argument against democracy is a few minute chat with the average voter.
G.B. News stop stiring things up for Reform. Ben you speak very well,as far as the people are concerned you are still part of this party. Also I think Nigel and Richard will sort it all out.
ReformUK LLC fails this test when challenged with Tony Benn's Questions to Power - his belief that those in positions of economic, social and political power should always be asked five questions:
“What power have you got?”
“Where did you get it from?”
“In whose interests do you use it?”
“To whom are you accountable?”
“How do we get rid of you?
Ben is a great asset to the party and much appreciated by supporters. The important thing is to uphold the principles on which the party was created: patriotism, integrity, freedom of speech and the press, the promotion of British values and culture, freedom of religion without the party or factions within it becoming overtly religious. Supporters dont want it to become a Tory Party mk II. and we need to be choosy which Tory MPs are allowed to join Reform, because many are rogues who were implicated in creating the mess which Reform now has to clean up. We should not model ourselves on any existing party, one of our selling points should be that we are not like the others. Remember at all times that we are the party of common sense.
Hopefully, Ben you will stay with Reform, if you leave it would be a great loss and would seem an unnecessary one.
There is a contradiction between ALL the headlines on this matter and the words of Ben Habib in this interview.
Ben is a credit to the party , unfortunately it's NOT to REFORM !
Political Party or limited Company?
@@martinmcdonald4207 all of the political parties are also companies. They have to be in order to have income and hold assets as an organisation (donations, offices, equipment, staff, etc).
How did you think it worked?
@@Build_SecretsBut as Ben Habib confirmed there is no democratic vote in how it’s run. Everything is done on what Farage wants.
@@stephenjon3502 We already knew this before the election. Other share owning members gave their shares to Farage, because they wanted him to have majority control to shape and steer the party.
This will obviously change in due course, but hopefully will not be rushed! Its Farage's party and policies we voted for. It was his "contract with the people", written by him. We should be weary of calls for him to give up too much control too fast while the party is so young and still being built. Lest it become just another establishment blob.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Ben Habib wiping his arse in the middle of the street. Wonder why the people of Willingborough did`nt give him the nod. He needs to shut up with his public bleating.
They also need to set up a proper membership scheme where members receive membership cards.
I liked Ben Habib and the way he talked. But he didn't get elected and should get over it. He could stand in the next reasonable by-election to try and join the 5 MPs there already. Swallow your pride ,repress your ego , and live with it ! !
Gb news stop the stupid headlines you are supposed to be different as well!
Ben's new roll should be running Reform Central Office. We all know Conservative central office needs to reform itself and plan for the future.
Nigel has just stepped up the deputy leader is best to be in the House of Commons for the rest of it at least let the party get its feet on the floor but the whole party needs a good check on who goes where from top to bottom with no hasty decision that have to be changed. Ben should not speak to soon he is doing damage to the party that he says he supports well maybe he is not good for the party?
Ben are you in our out? I think Ben is very good however why is he not keeping this in-house if everything is ok? There are too many people wanting to put a different spin on this as in the title of this.
I’m sorry Ben, I can’t agree with you, for the simple reason - you believe the main parties are democratic, when they’re not. All of the main parties are owned by special interests groups. If you allow Reform to be like the other main parties, you lose control of the party. I want Nigel Farage and Richard Tice in charge - without being influenced by the WEF mob. At the moment, there is no such thing as democracy in the U.K. Reform must never try to emulate the main parties. I think Ben is a great speaker, but he is unfortunately wrong on this occasion.
they have really got to stop airing the dirty laundry in public for the sake of the country.
@cyberlizardcouk Also, the corrupt BBC, Charles 4 news, ITV news, Sky News, which are far lefties, will be reporting that Reform UK are having troubles already, they don't want to feed the corrupt mainstream media.
Not 'They' only Ben
You mean stop showing us all that they are dysfunctional, it's a one man band, the Nigel Farage show and at the moment he seems more concerned about Trump, Clacton is already a distant memory.
This is not the way Ben.
Well spoken ben
Common sense speaking always
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❤ Ben. He is right.💯🇬🇧🌟🌟🌟
Sorry Ben your not an mp yet,when you are you will be accommodated.
Ben Habib would have made a good MP...however...he didnt win his seat so there had to be a rethink of the pecking order..its just how things are. He needs to get over it.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Ben Habib has a ;point, Farage tends to act as an dictator, he has a record of it, it's him or nobody, that cannot last, he must allow other personalities to gain following.
I like Ben but Farage is in charge of the party & its his decision who holds what position.
Ben Habib: "This is *not* a civil war"
GBNews: "this is now a civil war!"
Disgraceful tabloid reporting, clean up your act.
@@johnkitching2248 Nah, this is deliberate.
...though I do get the joke (how convenient to blame an intern)
Ben knew exactly what Reform is and he didn't win a seat, it's sour grapes.
The other abbdul didn't win a seat did he?
Which one?@@richardgallagher4880
@@richardgallagher4880 You should be in the BNP, not Reform with lingo such as that
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Bnp? The time for politics has long gone
Just cause he didn’t win a seat doesn’t mean he should have been sacked big mistake he’s a great descent patriotic man who cares about his country ❤❤❤
I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT BEN DIDN'T WIN HIS SEAT, BUT THE TREATMENT OF BEN WAS TERRIBLE HE WAS A GREAT ASSET TO THE PARTY AND HE WAS THERE LONG BEFORE NIGEL, HE CONTINUALLY SUPPORTS NORTHERN IRELAND AND THE TREATMENT OF THE CORRUPT EU
We are far out from a time when a reform victory is possible and right now it is simply more efficient to work as a company. One of Nigel's actions that makes him unique among leftist politicians is his hard fighting for democracy through Proportional representation and governing ourselves without the EU etc. I'm sure he would not let this remain until election day and it seems to me that Ben habib is just stirring up unnecessary controversy and setting the party back. Ben is right but what he is doing is unnecessary.
Ben should be a candidate in a predominantly Muslim area and convince Muslims not to vote along sectarian lines but in accordance with the interests of the country they chose to live in.
I love Ben Habib... quality act and Reform need to keep him
If I vote for a party, I expect that party to act on behalf of the people who voted for them. To listen intently to what the people want, then implement their wishes. Just because we got you into parliament, don't suddenly think it's ok to just do what you want.
If I pay to be a member, I expect to have a vote and a say.
Anything other is not
democracy.
If this party has just got in for their own personal gains, then there is no point voting them in.
They will be the same as the other two parties.
To take money and make a party a Ltd company, is only democratic, If the shareholders ( the paying members) have a vote and say.
Only a problem now you’re not deputy come on Ben
Ben is entitled to speak as he sees it and also being sacked is NEVER easy especially when it comes out of the blue just after you have been working so hard and he has got a point. He is still saying 'we' so he's still banging on the same political drum so let's hope this hiccup gets resolved asap.
I m confused. Whoever it is, must not have a hidden agenda. Need Ben in the party, as what he says makes, sense.
I am a firm supporter of Ben Habib. I seriously believe without him the REFORM UK would not have reached the support level it achieved and he was one of the main reasons I decided to vote for the party long before Nigel Farage became leader. He should be recognised as a main ingredient of the party and allowed to.play a very active part in creating a Reform Uk Party Government after the constant failures of the 2 main, traditional parties, who between them have destroyed this once great nation over the last few decades.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.
Ben Habib's comments appear entirely correct at this time.
Ben Habib is a DISGRACE. He moved his factories to POLAND to evade UK taxes and skip out of UK workers. He is only worried about HIS PROFITS. He is PATHETIC.