I really like the new cyberspace stages. Sonic Team seems to be implementing more momentum into them, like they actually expect you to use your spindash, but it isn't required. It's so cool, and I like all the weird ideas they implemented, like the car engine rev up or moon gravity.
YEAH, it felt like they got a lot more creative with these cyberspaces. only found it kinda annoying to find animals and stuff in some stages but generally i liked them
@nobody-vp1ww "why cant sonic games be challenging like unleashed" Frontiers introduces a return to a feature of the series (challenging platforming) and a first for the series (challenging combat) "No, this is not good. The game's too janky. Ican'tt platform properly. Artifical difficulty. Sonic games aren't meant to have difficulty" It's funny how it's always the fault of the Sonic game instead of the player.😂
yeah! I enjoied the difficulty spike for sure! I think the problem is theres a lot of super causal gamers that play sonic so they were pretty taken aback by how hard it was. But as someone whos played it more than most should??? it was dope
For snake trial, the most efficient way to do it is to bait the attack from the umbrella shield bots, jump over it and wail on them, parrying the disc every time it comes back, making it do a full circle back. Gives the most amount of time to attack the enemy.
ye ive been doing that, and theres also some new strat where you can get hit out of power boost, then you cyloop him and mash slide+boost. sometimes you can get the shield to stay up until you beat him but we havent made it consistent yet
What I ended up doing was doing the early game standard attack - normal stomp combo. Worked pretty well, and minimized the times I needed to parry. I just need to cyloop once with the perfect combo.
yeah im not surprised, it was super rough! For me this was just a solid 6 hour stream but im def an outlier where i almost have 1000 hours in the game LMAO
with the time they had absolutely! its really cool to play as the other chracters! just wish they felt as good as sonic does at level 1 stats, and had less start up on a lot of their actions. PEAK FICTION ENDING THOOOO
I think the ending was just too cool, I mean the way that sonic destroys the end and falls back... also sage is still alive which is great. Also I can't really imagine how much effort emeraldd puts into his game play so thank so much for doing this for us 🎉🎉🎉🎉 Good luck!!!!
On my first watch of this dlc (Because I was unfortunately not able to play this update for myself :c), I nearly cried. It feels like for the first time in so, so long, I felt the feeling of amazement that got me into the series in the first place. After years of mediocrity, they made a risky play. To indulge in utter Anime hype. And the result of fans vocally loving it was this amazing finale. ... ...Out of all the codewords you could've chosen, you chose Fortnite?
LMFAOOOOO im sorry i chose fortnite. next time ill pick something better LOL But yes absolutely. moments like the end of this update, are what makes me so proud to be a sonic fan. i got chills, i was in complete awe from everything it was so fucking amazing. I had a hard time holding back tears on stream but if i was offline i would have been crying my eyes out in happiness
New Ending was Sick. And CyberSonic was so Damn hype(can’t wait to see the many upcoming fanart of it). Also I can’t wait for more Eggman and Sage moments together. It’ll be interesting to see how things play out. Metal Sonic now has a lil sister😌(I hope they’ll have wholesome moments together like eggy and her)
I couldn't figure what to do with the poles with the ring around them 11:09 and had to shamelessly set the difficulty to easy for the rest of that tower. Then again for the final trial when the parry is now only active for 3-4 frames.
yeah its weird, quick cyloop is what i did but i think you can cyloop on the rail? i dont remember but if you can that would be the other way to do it. Some may say otherwise but i think setting the difficulty lower is fine tbh. do whatever makes you get enjoyment out of the game!
I enjoyed seeing your impressions. Update 3 made history for Sonic Frontiers and the franchise overall. I will not forget the day I saw for the first time that cutscene with Super Sonic Cyber finishing The End once and for all while I'm Here was playing. Also, Fortnite, I guess? lol
Knuckles' glide was first designed with a commitment to the direction chosen as a key aspect, and they went back to that in this game, in a "think before you start gliding" approach. Which, well, when used to the smooth SA2 glide, it feels off, but I grew up with Spyro, so this feels maneageable lol
yeah i mean this glide is more so how traditional glides in games go, but yeah i feel like SA2 is just where my bias lies because of speedrunning it so much
@@Emerldd Oh, of course, Adventure 2 Knuckles handles like a dream; one of the most agile and mobile characters I've ever seen in a platformer. Never really got the hate ttbt.
imagine finishing the base game of frontiers, I forgot... don't be mad D: Also dope video, loved the format of showing your actual impressions throughout the full playthrough with a brief synthesis at the end.
I've found an easy way to turn your glide around is to let go, then quickly boost in the direction you want to go and press glide again in one swift motion. You have to burn your boost to do it, which kinda sucks, but it's something.
dude i get chills watching other people play the ending and seeing their first reactions. I know i didnt say much at the end but i was genuinely speechless
I 100% the update. The update was pretty cool for the most part, but MAN were the lows very low. I did a few speedruns of Frontiers back when the game was new (sitting at a 1 : 46 : 51 on version 1.10) and the Master King’s Trial still broke me. None of the trials were fun, for that matter, in my opinion. Very cheap ways of making the combat hard, sometimes not feeling fair, even if it’s plenty doable. I beat Master King’d Trial on Hard eventually on PS5, but I legit only had like 2 rings remaining. I do dig other aspects of the update though. I do think every new character is still inferior to Sonic, but Amy was definitely the surprising highlight, having legitimately fun platforming sections. And I REALLY liked the new Cyber Space levels. Despite them being remixes of older Cyber Space levels, they were far better and way more interesting than any of the base game Cyber Space levels, offering so many different paths and just being massive in scale. Of course the final boss was way better. Was fitting to have Kellin Quinn round off the game with his cover of I’m Here. That and aside from finding out how to cut the healing cord being a little tedious, I thought the final boss was decently fair in terms of being actually difficult the first time around, with a way better use of the Perfect Parry than shoehorning them into the boss rush. I feel mostly positive about the update, but it does sort of concern me for how Sonic Team does difficulty for future games. Now, I really like hard games, I’m all about having a tough but fair challenge, hence why I’m a massive fan of the Dark Souls games, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring, but I don’t think this update does difficulty well. The platforming difficulty was mostly good, but the combat stuff with the trials and overworld bosses were far too much for my liking. I hope for the next game, they learn how to make fun difficulty. I think for now, they should focus on spectacle for bosses, and leaving the hard stuff to the platforming, because I liked the difficult platforming challenges in this update. But ‘das just my silly opinion.
Just got the CD soundtrack for this games 3rd update The Final Horizon the mail today at 2:34p.m. and it's the Sonic Frontiers Expansion Soundtrack: Paths Revisited CD and I'm listening to it while watching this! 5:43p.m. 12/19/2023
Definite skill issue for most stuff that people complained about, but that Perfect Parry window is really harsh. I'm thinking that is or near frame perfect on the hard difficulty.
@Emerldd same here. Felt that with this game and elden ring. The difficulty makes you think in unique ways and discover uses for in game mechanics that you never knew were there in the first place. (Like how quick cylooping increases your damage like crazy after using it on a titan.)
Surprised you didn't use knuckle's tax evasion technique at all. Also this update probably had the best overworld and cyberspace stages and the finale was insane. I think many sonic fans are super casual and really can't handle any form of challenge honestly given the difficulty backlash its gotten by some. Its really not that bad and there are far harder platformers out there and such and this was a good review in the closing thoughts imo. I actually like knuckles new glide but would probably remove the startup of it and his and amy's homing attack and eveyrone's cyloop outside of sonic has this weird dealy which doesn't feel too great but outside of that i wouldn't change much as i think the characters should all control differently personally.
this is all footage from as SOON as it dropped so i didnt know about the infinite climb thing until after stream! I dont think the difficulty was THAT bad but again my opinion is super skewed and i awknowledge that! but yeah start up on stuff is super slow and not fun. but at least the characters are satisfying in different ways. looking forward to how they expand on it going forward!
Idk if you discovered it yet but if you go to the Tank guardian near the second tower, you can HSP up to the top of the second tower to skip all the platforming. Did it last night. Same goes for a Master Ninja next to the 4th tower
i honestly found the difficulty fun, my biggest criticism is that the final boss should've had an actual hint, and that you can't play as the characters outside of Ouranos... but moders will always find a way
i agree with both of these yeah. It felt gimmicky rather than challenging for the end. but yeah i like the difficulty for sure! especially since, as a lot of people said, the base game was super easy
i actually don’t know why i didn’t think to do that before watching this. the tech works because the game puts the titan on idle mode to reward you for parrying his attacks. manually cylooping bosses is janky and unreliable in any other situation. so manualling there gives you 2 free instant cyloops
Genuinely surprised how you, a speedrunner didnt use Q. Cyloop for Knight and that you can force them to guard early and skip their attack (thus needing 0 parries outside the shield throw using the second Q. Cyloop or manual) by attacking them a lot as they move (even if its a tad hard). Gg's though and the dlc was a ton of fun. If you're wondering the parry times on Hard and Extreme are .13s and 0.06s respectively.
Quick Cyloop isn’t used in Any% at all. We don’t even unlock it! There’s no need to use quick Cyloop because the fight will happen the same everytime if we do it well. I was just gamin bad in the clip 🤷♂️I genuinely don’t even know if you can quick Cyloop him when his shield is up lmaooo Ty for the ggs, hope you enjoyed the update as well gamer o7
@@Emerldd if you contiously attack Knight as they spin around they raise their shield prematurely so you can get a manual cyloop there. I understand not getting Q. Cyloop though. Its only really useful vs Knight and Giganto if you wanna be overkill in MKT. I have a feeling you might do this in speed runs of the dlc haha. Also fun fact the Q. Cyloop gauge also carries over! So you can strategize with it. How useful that might be idk im not a speedrunner. Also, I recommend Q. Cyloop Wyvern in phase 2 to speed it up unless manual also works.
Finished this today, and man! I had heard it was hard, but I wasn’t expecting somethings to be THAT hard. Although I still have to say that there’s a lot of people just having a skill issue, even though I did give in and did turn certain things to easy, it was more for personal enjoyment lol. I get that it’s definitely flawed, there’s a bunch of things I’m not a fan of, but I wouldn’t say the expansion was bad at all. Sonic team definitely took it to heart when people said the base game was to easy. Overall, it was really fun and I loved all the expansions to the lore (I’m actually really emotional about how into the rock stack game the ancients were, and even though there’s remains of it, the true enjoyment of it has been lost to time) and I love how the devs explain by there’s pinball lol. 8.5/10 would play it again
I'm glad that even a player like you who has really practised and studied the game had some trouble here and there. To me, I expected to enjoy it with all of its problems, but ended up hating it. There were some good part that I enjoyed, but by the end of it I was just relieved that it was over. The music, the boss cinematics, the towers (for the most part), and the cyberspace levels were nice, but literally everything else I didn't like at all. All in all, this shows potential, as did Frontiers base game. I'm excited to see what comes next!
yeah i think its pretty obvious that this content was made after the fact so there wasnt a ton of time to work on it. I think its good to try this stuff out a bit now though so they can approach it with a better idea of what theyre doing for another game with more characters! understandable to hate it. I didnt hate it i thought it was pretty neat, but again i didnt have to struggle as bad as others did so i didnt get mad at it at all really
ok but like. is infinite cyloop boost still a thing? that's all that matters (you did know that cylooping an infinity symbol gives you unlimited boost right?)
Most of the flaws can easily be fixable in the next update patch hopefully. Other than that update 3 looks like it's in the right direction and i am happy for that.
It wasn't a bit rough around the edges, but these were all free updates yeah? We haven't seen Sega cook this hard since Sonic Unleashed and I'm up for it.
yeah the fact that its free i think makes me not care about a few little issues. def worth to point out the issues tho because then hopefully they dont repeat them in the future. W update overall tho
i figured this out on my first play through but during the snakes trial you can use stomp but not during combos its just a stop but you just stomp them to make it faster
yeah stomp is one of the things we were trying when we first started runs of Final Horizon. Now we do this slide kick thing thats stupid fast LOL gonna be making a Short about it later today I think
(Fortnite, Cuz its funny) Was just listening to this while editing some stuff and omg dude im glad im not alone. This update 100% has a difficulty change, but as you said people like speedrunners it feels more like a big playground and more fun to go through. The cyberspace's were fun and so were the towers, characters and the Ending imo is the best ending we have ever had for a sonic game. Loved the video, reactions, commentary and gameplay ^^
I LOVED THIS ENDING SO SO MUCH! Idk if itll be my favorite forever because Sonic Adventure 2 is such a good ending as well. But this has such a good, and complete ending its hard not to like it more. Also thanks for watching all the way through
Waiting for the fourth update with fixed challenges, Fixed Coco king trial, platforming and a with a tip to disconnect Supreme from The End and pull out his gun. Because 3rd update is for professionals only
I think its neat that if you dont wanna do those parts you can avoid them! But def thing you should try some of the new cyberspace! they did some creative stuff and the songs SLAP
BTW You can skip the scripted sequence of Sonic detransforming and retransforming if you do everything you need to do right away. Knock down The End's cord, lower his health, take down the gun, beat him up again and you're good.
Damn i just loved this update like 100% my new favourite sonic game and the final boss was just phenomenal i know it has problems but i dont care this is way too fun also its free
yeah i mean as long as people can recognize the issues that the update had i think its fine to consider this PEAK! Frontiers def getting close to my favorite sonic game but its really hard to top my nostalgia bias on SA2 LMAO but i also speedrun SA2 still so ive just gotten like infinite replayability from it
FORTNITE LETS GOOOOO Also ye its been super common with the runners for the game. its happened on legit every platform and it happens like 1/4 times :/
Well done on the edit and getting this out quickly brother it's validating that you did the same strat on trial 2 I did. I heard there's a trick that isn't just brute forcing it like us but I haven't actually seen it yet mad as hell you second-tried trial 5 though. my casual ass took a whole-ass stream Fortnite
thank you dude :D Yeah theres a couple of strats rn but i didnt know how to do it yet so i was just making it work LOL We basically just bait the disk attack from far away and then punch him until it comes back and parry each one. also shhhh dont tell but i played on normal LMAOOOO i switched early cause the guardians were pissing me off but then found out after i finished that hard parry was even tighter Thanks for watching the whole thing dude i appreciate you
Fortnite?! Well The Final Horizon definitely was a vibe to play through, great summary and impression of the update homie, keep up the awesome content man!
fortnite but being fr, i liked this update i do think knuckles needs work, and tails needs a goddamn homing attack, but all in all, this update is great
LMFAOOOOOOO it was so instant for me, but i had a feeling it might be something there. after loading into ouranos so many times, ive always thought that area looked like a good place for a portal or something important
I was playing this instead of the og story and it was my first time going to the final island and somehow maybe because i got spindash for knuckles, tails, and amy when it switches you to sonic i got the spindash for him
Dang, this video made me feel terrible at the game. I thought the original was easy, but as for this one...I'm only on the 2nd tower and I probably fell off the 1st one at least 30 times. Got me wondering if I'm getting too old and need to retire from Sonic games..
naaaah you have to remember i speedrun this game and have hundreds of hours in it so. you could be as good as me if you put a dumb amount of time like i have! dont be too discouraged! if it feels too hard, drop the difficulty down to easy! it adds extra stuff on the towers to homing attack and it makes the update a lot easier overtime
MY GOAT THANKS FOR FINISHING THE VIDEO :D also dude this is a nice final package, wish sega gave them enough time to finish it from the start so we could maybe have even more content than this! but the ending here is highkey perfect
Thanks for watching all the way through dude :D Also ye! i been doing runs on my twitch for the past few nights! I stream at around 8pm EST on Twitch! twitch.tv/emerldd
I think the last Update they gave us for frontiers was very mid. The Ending and last boss were definitely my personal highlight of it. The other 3 characters I'm still mixed on, and the challenge is definitely not casual friendly. Also Kellin Quinn doing I'm Here sent me to Heaven and back.
IT WAS SO HARD IT JUST WASNT WORKING But i learned to cyloop the reticle rather than the thing the reticle was aiming at, and it started to work just fine
![Blox Fruits Dragon Rework Update [Full Stream]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EqDAp8udhm0/mqdefault.jpg)
Because I don't want to get spoiled im gonna put this video on loop for an hour to make up for it
LMAO my goat 💯
Why tho😮
@@tmankingboy why not
I really like the new cyberspace stages. Sonic Team seems to be implementing more momentum into them, like they actually expect you to use your spindash, but it isn't required. It's so cool, and I like all the weird ideas they implemented, like the car engine rev up or moon gravity.
YEAH, it felt like they got a lot more creative with these cyberspaces. only found it kinda annoying to find animals and stuff in some stages but generally i liked them
@@Emerldd I really wish they had put some sort of indicator for where an animal is, they're too small in comparison to everything else
Never forget how the Sonic community had a collective skill issue
Oh i wont. Especially when the next game comes and fans complain about how easy it is😂
Sonic Unleashed flashbacks
@nobody-vp1ww "why cant sonic games be challenging like unleashed"
Frontiers introduces a return to a feature of the series (challenging platforming) and a first for the series (challenging combat)
"No, this is not good. The game's too janky. Ican'tt platform properly. Artifical difficulty. Sonic games aren't meant to have difficulty"
It's funny how it's always the fault of the Sonic game instead of the player.😂
hey man, people complained about it being easy, so they delivered LMAOOO
@@TheCourier0613I prefer it to stay to Jak 2 levels of difficult.
Hard but satisfying! When you understand how everything has to be done is kinda cool ngl!
yeah! I enjoied the difficulty spike for sure! I think the problem is theres a lot of super causal gamers that play sonic so they were pretty taken aback by how hard it was. But as someone whos played it more than most should??? it was dope
@@Emerlddhow did you do this? 14:04
Hsp he did it very quickly @@BlazeK9
For snake trial, the most efficient way to do it is to bait the attack from the umbrella shield bots, jump over it and wail on them, parrying the disc every time it comes back, making it do a full circle back. Gives the most amount of time to attack the enemy.
ye ive been doing that, and theres also some new strat where you can get hit out of power boost, then you cyloop him and mash slide+boost. sometimes you can get the shield to stay up until you beat him but we havent made it consistent yet
What I ended up doing was doing the early game standard attack - normal stomp combo. Worked pretty well, and minimized the times I needed to parry. I just need to cyloop once with the perfect combo.
7:47 beat the game twice before the update and the update itself took me only 2 days, both wasted on master kings trial
yeah im not surprised, it was super rough! For me this was just a solid 6 hour stream but im def an outlier where i almost have 1000 hours in the game LMAO
Frontniters
Awesome update honestly, they definitely did go all out with the time they had
with the time they had absolutely! its really cool to play as the other chracters! just wish they felt as good as sonic does at level 1 stats, and had less start up on a lot of their actions. PEAK FICTION ENDING THOOOO
@@EmerlddFor real, honestly one of the best endings in the franchise along SA2 and Unleashed imo
I think the ending was just too cool, I mean the way that sonic destroys the end and falls back... also sage is still alive which is great. Also I can't really imagine how much effort emeraldd puts into his game play so thank so much for doing this for us 🎉🎉🎉🎉 Good luck!!!!
aw thank you :D im just a silly guy playing games for you guys. I appreciate you taking the time to watch the stuff i put out
On my first watch of this dlc (Because I was unfortunately not able to play this update for myself :c), I nearly cried.
It feels like for the first time in so, so long, I felt the feeling of amazement that got me into the series in the first place.
After years of mediocrity, they made a risky play. To indulge in utter Anime hype. And the result of fans vocally loving it was this amazing finale.
...
...Out of all the codewords you could've chosen, you chose Fortnite?
LMFAOOOOO im sorry i chose fortnite. next time ill pick something better LOL
But yes absolutely. moments like the end of this update, are what makes me so proud to be a sonic fan. i got chills, i was in complete awe from everything it was so fucking amazing. I had a hard time holding back tears on stream but if i was offline i would have been crying my eyes out in happiness
New Ending was Sick. And CyberSonic was so Damn hype(can’t wait to see the many upcoming fanart of it). Also I can’t wait for more Eggman and Sage moments together. It’ll be interesting to see how things play out. Metal Sonic now has a lil sister😌(I hope they’ll have wholesome moments together like eggy and her)
YEEEES DUUUDE THE INTERACTIONS WITH THE 3 OF THEM WILL BE SO HYPE!!! I cant wait man such a good ending
I couldn't figure what to do with the poles with the ring around them 11:09 and had to shamelessly set the difficulty to easy for the rest of that tower. Then again for the final trial when the parry is now only active for 3-4 frames.
yeah its weird, quick cyloop is what i did but i think you can cyloop on the rail? i dont remember but if you can that would be the other way to do it.
Some may say otherwise but i think setting the difficulty lower is fine tbh. do whatever makes you get enjoyment out of the game!
13:14 i love this sonic the hedgehog ass reaction
LMFAOOOO my ass didnt even realize. im too sonic pilled i guess
I enjoyed seeing your impressions. Update 3 made history for Sonic Frontiers and the franchise overall. I will not forget the day I saw for the first time that cutscene with Super Sonic Cyber finishing The End once and for all while I'm Here was playing.
Also, Fortnite, I guess? lol
FORTNITE!!
But yeah it was a magical ending for sure! Gonna be hard to top
Knuckles' glide was first designed with a commitment to the direction chosen as a key aspect, and they went back to that in this game, in a "think before you start gliding" approach. Which, well, when used to the smooth SA2 glide, it feels off, but I grew up with Spyro, so this feels maneageable lol
yeah i mean this glide is more so how traditional glides in games go, but yeah i feel like SA2 is just where my bias lies because of speedrunning it so much
@@Emerldd Oh, of course, Adventure 2 Knuckles handles like a dream; one of the most agile and mobile characters I've ever seen in a platformer. Never really got the hate ttbt.
Emerldd: He's like the Master Koco
The Koco: That's "Master King" to you
imagine finishing the base game of frontiers, I forgot... don't be mad D:
Also dope video, loved the format of showing your actual impressions throughout the full playthrough with a brief synthesis at the end.
YOU FORGOT???? Its all good gamer youre still the goat
I've found an easy way to turn your glide around is to let go, then quickly boost in the direction you want to go and press glide again in one swift motion.
You have to burn your boost to do it, which kinda sucks, but it's something.
might be worth messin around with! loosing boost is kinda rought though yeah
I love my short term memory since i can watch this and experience it as if it was my first time.
dude i get chills watching other people play the ending and seeing their first reactions. I know i didnt say much at the end but i was genuinely speechless
I 100% the update. The update was pretty cool for the most part, but MAN were the lows very low.
I did a few speedruns of Frontiers back when the game was new (sitting at a 1 : 46 : 51 on version 1.10) and the Master King’s Trial still broke me.
None of the trials were fun, for that matter, in my opinion. Very cheap ways of making the combat hard, sometimes not feeling fair, even if it’s plenty doable. I beat Master King’d Trial on Hard eventually on PS5, but I legit only had like 2 rings remaining.
I do dig other aspects of the update though. I do think every new character is still inferior to Sonic, but Amy was definitely the surprising highlight, having legitimately fun platforming sections. And I REALLY liked the new Cyber Space levels. Despite them being remixes of older Cyber Space levels, they were far better and way more interesting than any of the base game Cyber Space levels, offering so many different paths and just being massive in scale.
Of course the final boss was way better. Was fitting to have Kellin Quinn round off the game with his cover of I’m Here. That and aside from finding out how to cut the healing cord being a little tedious, I thought the final boss was decently fair in terms of being actually difficult the first time around, with a way better use of the Perfect Parry than shoehorning them into the boss rush.
I feel mostly positive about the update, but it does sort of concern me for how Sonic Team does difficulty for future games. Now, I really like hard games, I’m all about having a tough but fair challenge, hence why I’m a massive fan of the Dark Souls games, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring, but I don’t think this update does difficulty well. The platforming difficulty was mostly good, but the combat stuff with the trials and overworld bosses were far too much for my liking. I hope for the next game, they learn how to make fun difficulty.
I think for now, they should focus on spectacle for bosses, and leaving the hard stuff to the platforming, because I liked the difficult platforming challenges in this update.
But ‘das just my silly opinion.
Just got the CD soundtrack for this games 3rd update The Final Horizon the mail today at 2:34p.m. and it's the Sonic Frontiers Expansion Soundtrack: Paths Revisited CD and I'm listening to it while watching this! 5:43p.m. 12/19/2023
Definite skill issue for most stuff that people complained about, but that Perfect Parry window is really harsh.
I'm thinking that is or near frame perfect on the hard difficulty.
it is yeah its like stupid tight LOL
You have my respect as a gamer not blaming the game and actually enjoying the difficulty😤😎
yeah! i mean when i messed up it felt like my fault which i find super important in a game
@Emerldd same here. Felt that with this game and elden ring. The difficulty makes you think in unique ways and discover uses for in game mechanics that you never knew were there in the first place. (Like how quick cylooping increases your damage like crazy after using it on a titan.)
Surprised you didn't use knuckle's tax evasion technique at all. Also this update probably had the best overworld and cyberspace stages and the finale was insane. I think many sonic fans are super casual and really can't handle any form of challenge honestly given the difficulty backlash its gotten by some. Its really not that bad and there are far harder platformers out there and such and this was a good review in the closing thoughts imo. I actually like knuckles new glide but would probably remove the startup of it and his and amy's homing attack and eveyrone's cyloop outside of sonic has this weird dealy which doesn't feel too great but outside of that i wouldn't change much as i think the characters should all control differently personally.
this is all footage from as SOON as it dropped so i didnt know about the infinite climb thing until after stream! I dont think the difficulty was THAT bad but again my opinion is super skewed and i awknowledge that! but yeah start up on stuff is super slow and not fun. but at least the characters are satisfying in different ways. looking forward to how they expand on it going forward!
Idk if you discovered it yet but if you go to the Tank guardian near the second tower, you can HSP up to the top of the second tower to skip all the platforming. Did it last night. Same goes for a Master Ninja next to the 4th tower
yeah! we use those in the runs! i been doing a bunch of runs of the update for the past few days :D
i honestly found the difficulty fun, my biggest criticism is that the final boss should've had an actual hint, and that you can't play as the characters outside of Ouranos... but moders will always find a way
i agree with both of these yeah. It felt gimmicky rather than challenging for the end. but yeah i like the difficulty for sure! especially since, as a lot of people said, the base game was super easy
20:56 Uhh... is that a corrupted version of Fleetway Super Sonic?
im not familiar with that. maybe?
Emerldd trying to manually Cyloop the Titans while having a full Quick Cyloop meter is kinda funny to me.
LMFAOOOO i was trolling on accident
i actually don’t know why i didn’t think to do that before watching this. the tech works because the game puts the titan on idle mode to reward you for parrying his attacks. manually cylooping bosses is janky and unreliable in any other situation. so manualling there gives you 2 free instant cyloops
so happy emerldd's channel is doing well :) one of the easiest sonic streamers to listen to
appreciate the kind words gamer :D
Im still recovering from this update man its so fire
PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK (with a small amount of L's.... but still peak)
Genuinely surprised how you, a speedrunner didnt use Q. Cyloop for Knight and that you can force them to guard early and skip their attack (thus needing 0 parries outside the shield throw using the second Q. Cyloop or manual) by attacking them a lot as they move (even if its a tad hard).
Gg's though and the dlc was a ton of fun. If you're wondering the parry times on Hard and Extreme are .13s and 0.06s respectively.
Quick Cyloop isn’t used in Any% at all. We don’t even unlock it! There’s no need to use quick Cyloop because the fight will happen the same everytime if we do it well. I was just gamin bad in the clip 🤷♂️I genuinely don’t even know if you can quick Cyloop him when his shield is up lmaooo
Ty for the ggs, hope you enjoyed the update as well gamer o7
@@Emerldd if you contiously attack Knight as they spin around they raise their shield prematurely so you can get a manual cyloop there. I understand not getting Q. Cyloop though. Its only really useful vs Knight and Giganto if you wanna be overkill in MKT. I have a feeling you might do this in speed runs of the dlc haha.
Also fun fact the Q. Cyloop gauge also carries over! So you can strategize with it. How useful that might be idk im not a speedrunner. Also, I recommend Q. Cyloop Wyvern in phase 2 to speed it up unless manual also works.
Finished this today, and man! I had heard it was hard, but I wasn’t expecting somethings to be THAT hard. Although I still have to say that there’s a lot of people just having a skill issue, even though I did give in and did turn certain things to easy, it was more for personal enjoyment lol. I get that it’s definitely flawed, there’s a bunch of things I’m not a fan of, but I wouldn’t say the expansion was bad at all. Sonic team definitely took it to heart when people said the base game was to easy. Overall, it was really fun and I loved all the expansions to the lore (I’m actually really emotional about how into the rock stack game the ancients were, and even though there’s remains of it, the true enjoyment of it has been lost to time) and I love how the devs explain by there’s pinball lol. 8.5/10 would play it again
That final boss and the new cyberspace stages are peak
YEEEEES
Master King Trial: fun fact, on lower difficulty's the parry timing is more generous [i think i got like 3 seconds of holding the button on easy]
I'm glad that even a player like you who has really practised and studied the game had some trouble here and there. To me, I expected to enjoy it with all of its problems, but ended up hating it. There were some good part that I enjoyed, but by the end of it I was just relieved that it was over. The music, the boss cinematics, the towers (for the most part), and the cyberspace levels were nice, but literally everything else I didn't like at all.
All in all, this shows potential, as did Frontiers base game. I'm excited to see what comes next!
yeah i think its pretty obvious that this content was made after the fact so there wasnt a ton of time to work on it. I think its good to try this stuff out a bit now though so they can approach it with a better idea of what theyre doing for another game with more characters! understandable to hate it. I didnt hate it i thought it was pretty neat, but again i didnt have to struggle as bad as others did so i didnt get mad at it at all really
ok but like. is infinite cyloop boost still a thing? that's all that matters (you did know that cylooping an infinity symbol gives you unlimited boost right?)
it is still a thing LMAOOOOOO
Most of the flaws can easily be fixable in the next update patch hopefully. Other than that update 3 looks like it's in the right direction and i am happy for that.
yeah theres a lot of bugs i really hope that they drop a hotfix patch because ive been having a lot of audio issues with the music and stuff
It wasn't a bit rough around the edges, but these were all free updates yeah? We haven't seen Sega cook this hard since Sonic Unleashed and I'm up for it.
yeah the fact that its free i think makes me not care about a few little issues. def worth to point out the issues tho because then hopefully they dont repeat them in the future. W update overall tho
Kishimoto saw OnlyUp and told his team to do that for the towers
OnlyUp but less bs tbh. that game is straight up evil LMAOO
i figured this out on my first play through but during the snakes trial you can use stomp but not during combos its just a stop but you just stomp them to make it faster
yeah stomp is one of the things we were trying when we first started runs of Final Horizon. Now we do this slide kick thing thats stupid fast LOL
gonna be making a Short about it later today I think
@@Emerldd oh ok will be looking forward to that
(Fortnite, Cuz its funny) Was just listening to this while editing some stuff and omg dude im glad im not alone. This update 100% has a difficulty change, but as you said people like speedrunners it feels more like a big playground and more fun to go through. The cyberspace's were fun and so were the towers, characters and the Ending imo is the best ending we have ever had for a sonic game. Loved the video, reactions, commentary and gameplay ^^
I LOVED THIS ENDING SO SO MUCH! Idk if itll be my favorite forever because Sonic Adventure 2 is such a good ending as well. But this has such a good, and complete ending its hard not to like it more.
Also thanks for watching all the way through
"I dont think normal people are gonna be able to beat this"
Ok Superhuman Emerldd
LMAOOO that came out wrong, i just mean people that dont play a lot of games and have lives, unlike ya boi emerldd who plays video games for a living
@@Emerldd fair enough
I beat the challenge on my first try somehow
I really don't know how I did
This updates fun as hell
Waiting for the fourth update with fixed challenges, Fixed Coco king trial, platforming and a with a tip to disconnect Supreme from The End and pull out his gun. Because 3rd update is for professionals only
nah 4th update isnt happening, i think if we were gonna get like hotfix for stuff we would have already gotten it as well which is kinda sad
I screamed so hard during the final boss. Lost my voice. I have no regrets
i was speechless, i wish i reacted in a more entertaining way but i was just losing my shit internally LOL
Ain't no way he missed the coolest parry animation 😭
I did it the next day! I just didn’t do it day 1 since I wasn’t looking at the stuff people found on Twitter until after I finished
@@Emerldd ok thank god. The boss fight wouldn't be complete without witnessing that scene it's that cool
fr
fr it was so anime
Dude i ended up completing the new story without doing any of the cyberspace stages and almost zero combat at all
I entirely loved it though
I think its neat that if you dont wanna do those parts you can avoid them! But def thing you should try some of the new cyberspace! they did some creative stuff and the songs SLAP
BTW You can skip the scripted sequence of Sonic detransforming and retransforming if you do everything you need to do right away. Knock down The End's cord, lower his health, take down the gun, beat him up again and you're good.
yeah! i ended up finding this out when i started doing runs of it!
@@Emerldd Awesome, I did it a couple days ago on accident and finished it in about 5 minutes. Was completely flabbergasted lol.
How do you change islands?
you dont... sadly
@@Emerlddjust realized that you have to complete the game to get this new thingy 😢
The power of easy mode got me through Master King’s trial
honestly respect. anything to get through it and experience peak
Anything for Sonic 🫡
Welcome to Krabby Land!
LMFAOOOO its honestly not that bad
great video on a great update. cant wait for the nude mod to get released, both for your stream AND the game
broooooooooo LMAOO
Damn i just loved this update like 100% my new favourite sonic game and the final boss was just phenomenal i know it has problems but i dont care this is way too fun also its free
yeah i mean as long as people can recognize the issues that the update had i think its fine to consider this PEAK! Frontiers def getting close to my favorite sonic game but its really hard to top my nostalgia bias on SA2 LMAO but i also speedrun SA2 still so ive just gotten like infinite replayability from it
22:07 i didn't encounter it
that master king trial actually made me mad lmao
LMFAOOO I don’t blame you dude it was super rough
What's weird is I've never experienced the loading glitch and I'm a switch user lol!
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FORTNITE LETS GOOOOO
Also ye its been super common with the runners for the game. its happened on legit every platform and it happens like 1/4 times :/
Well done on the edit and getting this out quickly brother
it's validating that you did the same strat on trial 2 I did. I heard there's a trick that isn't just brute forcing it like us but I haven't actually seen it yet
mad as hell you second-tried trial 5 though. my casual ass took a whole-ass stream
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thank you dude :D
Yeah theres a couple of strats rn but i didnt know how to do it yet so i was just making it work LOL
We basically just bait the disk attack from far away and then punch him until it comes back and parry each one.
also shhhh dont tell but i played on normal LMAOOOO i switched early cause the guardians were pissing me off but then found out after i finished that hard parry was even tighter
Thanks for watching the whole thing dude i appreciate you
@@Emerldd of course man big love ❤️🔥💖💙💚
Fortnite?! Well The Final Horizon definitely was a vibe to play through, great summary and impression of the update homie, keep up the awesome content man!
FORTNITE LETS GOOOOO thanks for watching gabe
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but being fr, i liked this update
i do think knuckles needs work, and tails needs a goddamn homing attack, but all in all, this update is great
youre a real one gamer thank you for watching till the end
Why were you stuck midair.
wasnt stuck, i was parrying to stall! it works everywhere! people need to use it more tbh
I really loved this update BUT HOLY THE DIFFICULTY WAS SO ANNOYING but other than that great update
yeah theres little things to nit pick here and there but i def enjoied it and the ending was SICK
Great job, now do it on extreme difficulty
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... i think i left my stove on
@@Emerldd go turn it off. That’s a fire hazard
I don’t want to talk about how long it took me to find the entrance to Another Story…
LMFAOOOOOOO it was so instant for me, but i had a feeling it might be something there. after loading into ouranos so many times, ive always thought that area looked like a good place for a portal or something important
@@Emerldd I thought they’d put it in Supreme’s arena or by the final chaos emerald. If it wasn’t marked on the map, I would’ve taken even longer😂
"You should probably speedrun this"
im on it :)
I was playing this instead of the og story and it was my first time going to the final island and somehow maybe because i got spindash for knuckles, tails, and amy when it switches you to sonic i got the spindash for him
no matter what, you get spin dash for sonic in another story! the game wants you to have it for cyberspace and other stuff!
whattttt no wayy
For be a free new ends game is great
the new ending is SO SO GOOD :D
I have no input to contribute but streamerman very POGGERS
dwaitley??? I JUST MY PANT WOWOWOWOW
@@Emerldd I love you so much bro LMAO
I'm glad i did as good as a pro streamer despite only having 23 hours in the game lol
lets gooo! maybe you were just born to game?
@@Emerldd hell yeah! favorite thing to do other than drawing
thank you mr. 9th place
i got you ;)
Dang, this video made me feel terrible at the game.
I thought the original was easy, but as for this one...I'm only on the 2nd tower and I probably fell off the 1st one at least 30 times. Got me wondering if I'm getting too old and need to retire from Sonic games..
naaaah you have to remember i speedrun this game and have hundreds of hours in it so. you could be as good as me if you put a dumb amount of time like i have!
dont be too discouraged! if it feels too hard, drop the difficulty down to easy! it adds extra stuff on the towers to homing attack and it makes the update a lot easier overtime
Now do a hundo again for the vibes 🙂
LMAO for the vibes is crazy
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Now that I have your attention, I think this update is the culmination of Sonic Frontiers.
MY GOAT THANKS FOR FINISHING THE VIDEO :D also dude this is a nice final package, wish sega gave them enough time to finish it from the start so we could maybe have even more content than this! but the ending here is highkey perfect
I definitely want to watch you speedrun this dlc if possible! would be pretty hype, also
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Thanks for watching all the way through dude :D
Also ye! i been doing runs on my twitch for the past few nights! I stream at around 8pm EST on Twitch! twitch.tv/emerldd
Fleetway super sonic
i gotta figure out what that is....
I finished it on hard
Bro you got 4 extra koco you just skipped the cutsene there was 2 prompts lmao😂 I also like "Fortnite"
im just dumb LMFAOOOOO also thanks for watching till the end homie
sonic fortnite is finally complete
You’re a real one 💯
Amy is mvp btw
YES SHES SO GOOD I LOVE HER IN THIS UPDATE
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1:03p.m. 10/4/2023
Not first
close enough!
I literally bought a pc just to play this game, wish me luck boyz
LETS GOOOOO Good luck gamer :D hope you enjoy the game!
I think the last Update they gave us for frontiers was very mid. The Ending and last boss were definitely my personal highlight of it. The other 3 characters I'm still mixed on, and the challenge is definitely not casual friendly. Also Kellin Quinn doing I'm Here sent me to Heaven and back.
KELLIN QUINN MADE IM HERE GOOD!!!! but yeah def some ups and downs. Peak fiction ending tho!
Fortnite! Good video, it was a lot of fun!
Thanks for watching modini
Im gonna say something that might ruin kronos speedruns.
Hyperbounce is gone :(.
LOL no worries it’s 100% still in the game! It can actually be used in the update to climb some of the towers since they added more around ouranos
Try to cyloop challange (impossible)
IT WAS SO HARD IT JUST WASNT WORKING
But i learned to cyloop the reticle rather than the thing the reticle was aiming at, and it started to work just fine
No more sonic frontiers speedrun
hm?
Formtie 😁
MY GOOOOAT THANKS FOR WATCHING
@@Emerldd lol
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thank you for watching homie :D
fortnite cause i guess its funny. what does that damn symbol mean not even showed in update 3
My goat 😎
The "Zap" that appears everywhere? It is mentioned on one of the optional dialogues
Fortnite : ) great video!
FORTNIIIITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you :)
Oh shit I forgot
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FORTNIIIIITE
Fortnite Update 3 was a banger tbh
PEAK SIMULATOR!!!!!
Wow you reply to so many ppl in your comments that's quite amazing
Fortnite because you said so
LMAO Thanks for watching gamer
Yw!
Fortnite 💀 W video btw
LMAOOOO thanks gamer :D glad you liked it!
Fortnite because it's funny thanks for watching see you guys later
word for word, mans really does his homework LMAO
Fortnite.
Balls.
All in your face.
balls. so real...
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my 2 year old brain had to take a second LMAO
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LETS GOOOOOOOO
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Thanks for watching all the way through gamer o7
WE LOVE FORTNITE WE LOVE FORTNITE
FORTNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (thank you brood lol)
I FUCKING LOVE fortnite.
AYYEEEE LMAOOOO