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I unloaded 48' tractor trailers full of food with a hand truck and ramp five days a week for years and it was hard work, but I wouldn't make it one day slinging a sledge hammer busting ice off of a ship. Those are tough men
Where you at u union shop just asking. You could swing that sledge lol I did the same shit with 33ft er 24 years 🤣 😂 at least you getting your cardio lol
I worked on a small freighter in the Baltic Sea in the 90s. The Baltic is pretty similar to the Great Lakes in how it behaves during rough weather, waves tend to come with high frequency and violently, from several directions, and even big, modern ships can get in trouble. Just google "Estonia" or "Finnbirch" and see... (And ignore the conspiracy theories). Anyway, sailing through winter storms would see the ship covered in ice and how you deal with it has not really changed in the last century. We'd be out bashing it with large wooden hammers to at least make the mooring equipment operable so we could dock... It was hard, honest work and something that I am happy that I got to experience.
Everyone's got what they're used to. I've been a farmhand 2+ decades now, and trying out concrete work for a month just about killed me. Actually, it did have a lot of sledgehammer slinging. 😅
It sounds like in great lake shipping, dry dock repairs were scheduled during winter layup if possible, and long time sailors often retire after a season, and so all of those things are basically the same thing.
If I'm honest, I think the great lakes in general deserves its own playlist...there are literally thousands of ships that went down in the lakes...thousands of stories, thousands of opportunities to shed light on
My mom's side lives in Minnesota. I remember going to Duluth in the 80s and 90s to watch the ships go under the bridge. I would stay there all day and remember the sheer power of Superior. I've seen 25 foot waves crashing there and it's actually terrifying. I don't think people understand that the great lakes are as massive as they are. It's just as intimidating as the open ocean, if not more. The waves are just so much more relentless and closer together than the waves you see on the ocean.ive seen 50 foot waves In Maui but it's totally different
@theshapeexists man, for you to witness the final age of the traditional forward pilot house straight deckers in the 80s and 90s must've been something...I was born in 97 so I unfortunately missed the time where freighters such as the Arthur B Homer still sailed before being scrapped...in fact, by the time I got interested in great lakes maritime...there weren't many classic freighters
No less than 92% of these Great Lakes episodes start with: “The Captain knew a late-season run would mean impossible weather, but…” and “the crew knew the ship was starting to show her age…” 🤦🏾♂️
I wonder what happened to the chief engineer’s children. My grandfather worked the lakes from 1919-1975. He always worked until the absolute last run. He told me once that crew willing to work November and December received a bonus. This could easily have been Chief Engineer Barnes. Leaving a widow and two children. My respect to every crew, past and present, willing to battle the winds and waves. Thank you, BOB for sharing these stories!
I appreciated the elegiac ending of this episode. What a reverent way to honor a missing man - keeping a raincoat carefully folded up on a shelf in a store until the owner died. You always do great honor to the crews that were lost when their ships went down. I learn so much from your videos. I can't say I enjoy them as that denotes some kind of buoyant pleasure to my way of thinking, but I appreciate them for their quality, content, rationality, and appreciation for the lives and ships that go to sea for us.
I appreciate you covering so many Great Lakes Stories, especially on behalf of the people who were involved. They don't get covered enough. I'd also be willing to share some for future videos if you like. For example, One story of tragedy involves 3 ships between 1909 and 1913 on The Lakes. The John B. Cowle was rammed and sunk by the Issac M. Scott on her maiden voyage in Lake Superior in 1909. The rescuing steamer Frank H. Goodyear (with a unique railroad car on her deck) saved 10 out fo the 24 crew of the Cowle. Tradegy would claim these 2 ships within 4 years of the Cowle's loss. The Goodyear was sunk on Lake Huron in 1910 in a collision with 18 lives lost and the Issac M. Scott capsized and sank in the November 1913 storm with all hands on Lake Huron. All 3 wrecks have been found and are still here as the tragic reminders of the dangerous waters of our Great Lakes. Cheers from Michigan.
@ripwednesdayadams i am aware of most of those channels. Railroad street is my other first thought. This channel has covered the most as far as I have seen in any case.
So glad you finally covered the DM Clemson it’s one of my favorite stories especially considering we really dont know all that much about it’s unfortunate final voyage and it is the witch’s season ❤❤
I've lived along the Lakes for 80 years, get down to our port most days. We get mostly the older boats. Got aboard Challenger when it was still a steamer. We've been to several Nov. 10 bell ringings, always chilling. Thanks for what you do!
Anyone who believes the Great lakes are just lakes and therefore easy to traverse is sadly mistaken. It is one of the most dangerous environments for a ship and captain that you could ever imagine. The storms on the Great lakes can develop very quickly and they hit very hard. Men who sail the lakes are brave beyond what most of us are ever capable of being. RIP to these brave sailors who perished on this great ship. Condolences to their families.
Safety Last I guess. The people who know the lakes the best just don't get that doing stupid s**t gets people killed. Owners, captains, insurers, the Coast Gaurd just not learning.
Although a wooden schooner bulk carrier, I believe the Cornelia B. Windiate qualifies as a great Great Lake Mystery. Launched in 1874 she disappeared in a November storm in 1875. She was presumed to be in Lake Michigan cause there were no sightings of her passing through the Strait of Mackinaw. Since it was a white out I don't know why they thought anyone could have seen her. But she was found in 1986 by two divers with a fish finder in Thunder Bay, Lake Huron. Sitting up right, main mast rising eerily above her with ropes swaying in the water. Frankly, the first time I saw that mast looming out of the darkness; it scared the crap out of me, truly ghostly. Her cargo of wheat was still intact in her hold, swollen by the water almost to deck level. There was no damage to her hull and the reason for her sinking was a mystery, although experiments later posited the probable cause. No trace of her crew or any wreckage at the time was ever found. There are documentaries about her, but they lack the personal touch you include in your coverage. She was named for the owner's daughter and I have searched the net for information on him and his family and specifically Cornelia. Some crew members were likely hired at last minute and they are lost in time, but the others are known. I would like the people touch. In pictures she seems near perfect and like a ship in a bottle; although her bowspit and two shorter masts are missing. Could you stretch your topic a little and do something about the Windiate? Please. You could subtitle it Precusor to the Big Old Boats. She was about the last of her line/type. (Wooden schooner bulk carrier, the humongous steel ships were already taking over, and no more commercial wooden haulers with sails would be built) I would buy a T Shirt (Navy Blue or black, in keeping with her mystery and ghostly appearance) immediately, if available. One with just that ghostly mast appearing in the darkness. Thanks
@@lockerracing7121 was the show called Sea Hunters. Or Deep Sea Detectives? Deep Sea folks did a good show about her, especially with the help of a Martime laboratory at a university demonstrating the probable cause of the sinking.
Oh hell yeah. New BOB dropped this morning. Thank you for doing content The History Channel should be doing. These stories are oft forgotten in the grand scheme of things. These videos, while somber, are essential bits of American History.
I grew up in Central Minnesota. My favorite place to visit was Duluth and the lakefront. The loading piers and docks looked so fierce. Such great respect and love for all the sailors who worked the Great Lakes, an inland ocean. Thank you for bringing these stories so these folks will not be forgotten. The info you give is amazing 😊 Keep up the great work!!
@valentinius62 The summer is awesome, the winters brutal. I have moved south in my old age. Still miss the big boats and the Great Lake Superior. Actually, they are all amazing.
There’s an old Great Lakes ship called the _Michipecoten_ which nearly sank from a large hull crack a few months back. It’s supposedly fixed now and passed inspection. But the circumstances scream “future channel content.”
@@unluckyirish2763 This guy must’ve seen the Mich on the news, piqued his interest, and now he’s spreading lies under all of these videos. Hasn’t the single idea of this industry.
The story of the D.M. Clemson is a very somber story. 19:16 This ending to the brief story of the hardware store, coat, and it's owner is unfortunately to true. Stories, places, and people forgotten in the sands of time. As I saying I heard once you die 3 times, "When you die, when you go in the ground(if you even get that), and the last time your name is ever spoken.". Reminds me of the ending scene of the movie The Gangs of New York.
A big part of what makes the Great Lakes so dangerous is how unique they are. The overwhelming majority of freshwater bodies are far smaller, so most people with experience in large bodies of water got that experience on the open ocean. But the cold freshwater of the great lakes doesn't behave like saltwater in the open sea, and the relatively shallow depth causes situations like what became of the Clifton to happen where waves can cause ships to strike the lakebed. Their position in the middle of North America directly underneath the polar jet stream also means weather patterns are unlike what you find almost anywhere else on earth. The infamous November Gales can reach hurricane force winds, but winter storms build much more rapidly than tropical storms, meaning it's very easy to get caught out in them.
Another Beautiful Video about a Beautiful Lake Freighter that was Lost to the Great Lakes. I like these kind of videos. Lake Freighters are always more unique than Ocean Going Vessels.
Thanks again for another historical account abouot these long forgotten ships that did so much work on the Great Lakes. This was never part of any history lesson when I was in school. I was never told much about the Great Lakes, or that they were used for shipping, other than they were 5 big lakes. It is nice to know more history about these areas and the roles played in our history. Keep up the good work. Thank you! Blessings, Michelle Reed, Gresham Oregon USA
16:20, The United States Life-Saving Service was a United States government agency that grew out of private and local humanitarian efforts to save the lives of shipwrecked mariners and passengers. It began in 1848 and ultimately merged with the Revenue Cutter Service to form the United States Coast Guard in 1915.
I just got the notification you posted a new video! I want to say funnily enough I bought myself a ridge wallet last week and the key organizer. This is my first full week using it and I'm pretty happy with how it feels. But enough of that. I love how detailed your videos are, you also track down some awesome footage to use throughout and it flows together perfectly. Kinda creepy how the Captain made the same call twice to make sure she understood exactly what to do...anyways loved the video and can't wait for what's next!
So sad for the families and friends. The Great Lakes are very dangerous yet people still attempt to cross them in bad weather. So many stories of lost souls. Your videos are always special.
Thank you for this video and all your hard work. I've become a great lake freighter nerd thanks to you😊. I love those ships. Their history is heartbreaking and intense. Thank you for new life joy and interest.
Your music choices are so on point, excellent video as always! I really love how you put these stories together, how you share the background and really humanize these historical moments. The technical knowledge is excellent too. As things go from bad to worse in the events that unfold, there is a real sense of relief when you play the outro music and roll credits.
This story is absolutely wild but incredibly sad that the ship is still missing and those men are still down there somwhere in the chilly deaths and darkness of the lake's may those men be at peace hopefully someday someone will discover the final resting place and solve what happened
Another fascinating video. I lived just outside of Collingwood from 1979 to 1989 and went to high school in Collingwood. My parents owned a small grocery store and a galley supply company. I got to tour quite a few lakers being built or in port in Collingwood. It was always cool to see a big ship at the end of the main street.
Thank you for doing these videos. You cover so many ships that are long gone to history. Only remembered by Old-Timers and descendants of those who were lost. I appreciate your good work. Keep it up my friend. ⚓
From David here in Cromer on the North Norfolk coast East Anglia England What a heart breaking story really really sad And the story of the guy's folded jacket at the end of the film ? Incredibly emotional These films and memories are so important for us all never to forget these brave men who were just doing there job but a very dangerous job Thanks for posting I've subbed the channel because living where I live The nautical theme is very relevant It's lifeboats here on the East coast All the way up the East side of the UK From the tip of Scotland to the bottom of Devon and Cornwall ❤️
One of my favorite channels! Always so well produced and always interesting. Even when I’m familiar with a subject, I learn something new. Thank you for your great work.
Been waiting for another one....always a pleasure, especially before i go to sleep at night. Like bed time stories for adults 😊. I rewatch these constantly
Those massive steam shovels they had for unloading the ships are incredible,I have never seen anything like them before.May the crew of the D.M. Clemson Rest in Peace.
I like the ending theme music, it brings me back to the present...but during the stories, i like the idea of period music of the time being used, and being a big guitar fan- I like in some of the episodes using the lonely cords struck on an acoustic guitar...low and sad sounding. This is my favorite channel to relax to before bed. I still think of those poor souls lost to the chilly waters of the great lakes. Bless them all.
Great video! The mystery of the D.M. Clemson is really interesting, and the new crew members add a lot to the story. Can’t wait to see what happens next!
This is one of my most favorite channels on RUclips. Please keep these awesome videos coming. I've often wondered what it would have been like to live during the turn of the 20th century. If I lived back then I may have considered joining one of the ore carriers of the day. Sounds like an adventure, plus no shortage of back breaking hard work. 🎶"Superior, they said, never gives up her dead When the gales of November come early".🎵
Yet another amazing program. I love the old film clips. Including and especially the old loading and unloading equipment and railway car segments. Story well told.:)
Another great story - I never tire of watching the film of these old freighters, and the old movie clips you use. My late father was a RN gunner on, among other things, the Arctic Ocean and Barents Sea patrols in WW2 (Yes, that's right. He survived PQ17) He told me of how they had to go round the ship with steam hoses every half an hour to fetch the ice off the superstructure, or they'd be heading straight down.......
What I’ve learned from most videos from here and the titanic, never go on a ships last voyage of the season, or with a captain about to retire. And be sure to leave with any crew who have “premonitions”
Lived near the ship breaker in Port Colborne Ontario some of the stories that the guy’s that worked there said about how bad the ships were when they were retired amazes me how the men went out knowing how bad the conditions could get 😮❤
It's always the last run of the season when something goes wrong. Always. Especially on the Great Lakes. Based on how hard Frank Chamberlain's ship (forgot its name) got pummeled despite hugging the coastline closer and riding high out of the water, and still losing a few hatch covers, odds are the Clemson in the middle of the lake met the full force of the storm and simply got overwhelmed. Sad stuff. Always is, especially for those 2 boys who joined last second. I shudder thinking how that could've been me. RIP, and I hope her wreck is found someday. Also, I will definitely be taking a look at that Ridge key holder. It has my interest. :D
I get a little annoyed when those people in the office are forcing the captains to make one more trip in bad weather just to boost their profits at the expense.of safety of their ships and crews. RIP those brave men who sail on the sweet. water seas. May the Clemson be found and closure be given to their families.
I spend a lot of time between Crisp Point and Vermillion. I always think about the Clemson resting out there. They will find her some day. Great video as always.
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Also, don’t get on life boats unless they have been launched and are floating safely away from the ship. Unless, of course, you like falling 6 stories to your doom.
The overarching message of Big Old Boats is "Never go on the last run of the season on the Great Lakes."
Might have been safer to take the long way around by horse & cart! 🥴
Yeah. Seems like the way they found out the season was over was to keep shipping out until the vessels stopped returning.
@@jaex9617that is tragically comical but seems true
Or the second to last, really. Those lakes are just brutal.
Word
"Retiring captain" and "last run of the season" are not things I'd want to hear on one of those ships. Bad omens.
The minds of Retiring Captains are not always where they should be
to kill a seabird
@@nils4279don't kill the albatross!
I unloaded 48' tractor trailers full of food with a hand truck and ramp five days a week for years and it was hard work, but I wouldn't make it one day slinging a sledge hammer busting ice off of a ship. Those are tough men
Where you at u union shop just asking. You could swing that sledge lol I did the same shit with 33ft er 24 years 🤣 😂 at least you getting your cardio lol
I worked on a green chain at a lumber yard unloading 27,000 board ft a day,and I agree with you sir. Happy Holidaze
I worked on a small freighter in the Baltic Sea in the 90s. The Baltic is pretty similar to the Great Lakes in how it behaves during rough weather, waves tend to come with high frequency and violently, from several directions, and even big, modern ships can get in trouble. Just google "Estonia" or "Finnbirch" and see... (And ignore the conspiracy theories). Anyway, sailing through winter storms would see the ship covered in ice and how you deal with it has not really changed in the last century. We'd be out bashing it with large wooden hammers to at least make the mooring equipment operable so we could dock... It was hard, honest work and something that I am happy that I got to experience.
Everyone's got what they're used to. I've been a farmhand 2+ decades now, and trying out concrete work for a month just about killed me. Actually, it did have a lot of sledgehammer slinging. 😅
@@thedemolitionmunicipleConcrete work is no joke!
it’s always the “last run” of the season, of someone’s career, or before dry dock repairs that end up being the last run ever. 😭
Dry dock repairs that are LONG overdue usually
It sounds like in great lake shipping, dry dock repairs were scheduled during winter layup if possible, and long time sailors often retire after a season, and so all of those things are basically the same thing.
November turn superior into a sea and untill recently lake frieghters were not sea going vessels
I was about to comment the same thing. It's striking how often we hear these same phrases in these tragic tales.
When they sink any time it will always be the "last run of the season"
If I'm honest, I think the great lakes in general deserves its own playlist...there are literally thousands of ships that went down in the lakes...thousands of stories, thousands of opportunities to shed light on
Agreed
It was either this channel or Maritime Horrors that cited that the great lakes are the final resting place of over 30,000 people. 🥶
i mean there are whole channels devoted to shipwrecks on the great lakes.
My mom's side lives in Minnesota. I remember going to Duluth in the 80s and 90s to watch the ships go under the bridge. I would stay there all day and remember the sheer power of Superior. I've seen 25 foot waves crashing there and it's actually terrifying. I don't think people understand that the great lakes are as massive as they are. It's just as intimidating as the open ocean, if not more. The waves are just so much more relentless and closer together than the waves you see on the ocean.ive seen 50 foot waves In Maui but it's totally different
@theshapeexists man, for you to witness the final age of the traditional forward pilot house straight deckers in the 80s and 90s must've been something...I was born in 97 so I unfortunately missed the time where freighters such as the Arthur B Homer still sailed before being scrapped...in fact, by the time I got interested in great lakes maritime...there weren't many classic freighters
No less than 92% of these Great Lakes episodes start with: “The Captain knew a late-season run would mean impossible weather, but…” and “the crew knew the ship was starting to show her age…” 🤦🏾♂️
(That’s a comment on the decision-making, not the narration)
John Wayne talk
So true. 😂😅😢
I wonder what happened to the chief engineer’s children. My grandfather worked the lakes from 1919-1975. He always worked until the absolute last run. He told me once that crew willing to work November and December received a bonus. This could easily have been Chief Engineer Barnes. Leaving a widow and two children. My respect to every crew, past and present, willing to battle the winds and waves.
Thank you, BOB for sharing these stories!
I appreciated the elegiac ending of this episode. What a reverent way to honor a missing man - keeping a raincoat carefully folded up on a shelf in a store until the owner died.
You always do great honor to the crews that were lost when their ships went down.
I learn so much from your videos. I can't say I enjoy them as that denotes some kind of buoyant pleasure to my way of thinking, but I appreciate them for their quality, content, rationality, and appreciation for the lives and ships that go to sea for us.
Excelente trabajo
@@JoseFigel si. muy bueno.
Those small children would be close to 120 yrs old today. Time flies
I appreciate you covering so many Great Lakes Stories, especially on behalf of the people who were involved. They don't get covered enough.
I'd also be willing to share some for future videos if you like.
For example, One story of tragedy involves 3 ships between 1909 and 1913 on The Lakes.
The John B. Cowle was rammed and sunk by the Issac M. Scott on her maiden voyage in Lake Superior in 1909.
The rescuing steamer Frank H. Goodyear (with a unique railroad car on her deck) saved 10 out fo the 24 crew of the Cowle.
Tradegy would claim these 2 ships within 4 years of the Cowle's loss.
The Goodyear was sunk on Lake Huron in 1910 in a collision with 18 lives lost and the Issac M. Scott capsized and sank in the November 1913 storm with all hands on Lake Huron.
All 3 wrecks have been found and are still here as the tragic reminders of the dangerous waters of our Great Lakes.
Cheers from Michigan.
there are a lot of channels that cover shipwrecks on the great lakes exclusively. you may be unaware but they exist.
@ripwednesdayadams i am aware of most of those channels. Railroad street is my other first thought. This channel has covered the most as far as I have seen in any case.
Things said moments before inevitable disaster:
"Hold my beer."
"It can't get any worse."
"Just one last run on the Lakes before winter."
“We’re holding are own”
Another one is "This is going to be fun!"
Yeah I have said that many times just right before I have made a really bad decision!
And “how hard can it be?” !
So glad you finally covered the DM Clemson it’s one of my favorite stories especially considering we really dont know all that much about it’s unfortunate final voyage and it is the witch’s season ❤❤
I've lived along the Lakes for 80 years, get down to our port most days. We get mostly the older boats. Got aboard Challenger when it was still a steamer. We've been to several Nov. 10 bell ringings, always chilling. Thanks for what you do!
Anyone who believes the Great lakes are just lakes and therefore easy to traverse is sadly mistaken. It is one of the most dangerous environments for a ship and captain that you could ever imagine.
The storms on the Great lakes can develop very quickly and they hit very hard. Men who sail the lakes are brave beyond what most of us are ever capable of being. RIP to these brave sailors who perished on this great ship. Condolences to their families.
They really are fresh water seas.
Safety Last I guess. The people who know the lakes the best just don't get that doing stupid s**t gets people killed. Owners, captains, insurers, the Coast Gaurd just not learning.
Although a wooden schooner bulk carrier, I believe the Cornelia B. Windiate qualifies as a great Great Lake Mystery. Launched in 1874 she disappeared in a November storm in 1875. She was presumed to be in Lake Michigan cause there were no sightings of her passing through the Strait of Mackinaw. Since it was a white out I don't know why they thought anyone could have seen her. But she was found in 1986 by two divers with a fish finder in Thunder Bay, Lake Huron. Sitting up right, main mast rising eerily above her with ropes swaying in the water. Frankly, the first time I saw that mast looming out of the darkness; it scared the crap out of me, truly ghostly. Her cargo of wheat was still intact in her hold, swollen by the water almost to deck level. There was no damage to her hull and the reason for her sinking was a mystery, although experiments later posited the probable cause. No trace of her crew or any wreckage at the time was ever found. There are documentaries about her, but they lack the personal touch you include in your coverage. She was named for the owner's daughter and I have searched the net for information on him and his family and specifically Cornelia. Some crew members were likely hired at last minute and they are lost in time, but the others are known. I would like the people touch. In pictures she seems near perfect and like a ship in a bottle; although her bowspit and two shorter masts are missing. Could you stretch your topic a little and do something about the Windiate? Please. You could subtitle it Precusor to the Big Old Boats. She was about the last of her line/type. (Wooden schooner bulk carrier, the humongous steel ships were already taking over, and no more commercial wooden haulers with sails would be built) I would buy a T Shirt (Navy Blue or black, in keeping with her mystery and ghostly appearance) immediately, if available. One with just that ghostly mast appearing in the darkness.
Thanks
Agreed. Those old schooners are fascinating. I remember watching an episode of The Sea Hunters that talked about her.
@lockerracing7121
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@@lockerracing7121 was the show called Sea Hunters. Or Deep Sea Detectives? Deep Sea folks did a good show about her, especially with the help of a Martime laboratory at a university demonstrating the probable cause of the sinking.
Yes!
Oh hell yeah. New BOB dropped this morning.
Thank you for doing content The History Channel should be doing. These stories are oft forgotten in the grand scheme of things. These videos, while somber, are essential bits of American History.
This dude makes great documentaries about shipwrecks. I don’t think he gets all the credit he deserves
Comeing from Ireland I have a fascination with the Great Lakes they scare the hell out of me thank you BoB love your content
lake superior alone is about the same size as ireland, for context 😃
They should. A healthy respect is wise.
I grew up in Central Minnesota. My favorite place to visit was Duluth and the lakefront. The loading piers and docks looked so fierce. Such great respect and love for all the sailors who worked the Great Lakes, an inland ocean. Thank you for bringing these stories so these folks will not be forgotten. The info you give is amazing 😊 Keep up the great work!!
Last time I was up in Duluth it was 99 degrees out. July I believe. But that lake water was COLD! ⛄
@valentinius62 The summer is awesome, the winters brutal. I have moved south in my old age. Still miss the big boats and the Great Lake Superior. Actually, they are all amazing.
There’s an old Great Lakes ship called the _Michipecoten_ which nearly sank from a large hull crack a few months back. It’s supposedly fixed now and passed inspection. But the circumstances scream “future channel content.”
I thought her company was waiting to see if she could pass a future inspection? When did she pass?
@@unluckyirish2763 This guy must’ve seen the Mich on the news, piqued his interest, and now he’s spreading lies under all of these videos. Hasn’t the single idea of this industry.
The story of the D.M. Clemson is a very somber story.
19:16 This ending to the brief story of the hardware store, coat, and it's owner is unfortunately to true. Stories, places, and people forgotten in the sands of time. As I saying I heard once you die 3 times, "When you die, when you go in the ground(if you even get that), and the last time your name is ever spoken.".
Reminds me of the ending scene of the movie The Gangs of New York.
A big part of what makes the Great Lakes so dangerous is how unique they are. The overwhelming majority of freshwater bodies are far smaller, so most people with experience in large bodies of water got that experience on the open ocean. But the cold freshwater of the great lakes doesn't behave like saltwater in the open sea, and the relatively shallow depth causes situations like what became of the Clifton to happen where waves can cause ships to strike the lakebed. Their position in the middle of North America directly underneath the polar jet stream also means weather patterns are unlike what you find almost anywhere else on earth. The infamous November Gales can reach hurricane force winds, but winter storms build much more rapidly than tropical storms, meaning it's very easy to get caught out in them.
Thanks for sharing this info. It explains a lot.
Another Beautiful Video about a Beautiful Lake Freighter that was Lost to the Great Lakes.
I like these kind of videos. Lake Freighters are always more unique than Ocean Going Vessels.
"The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy"
Thanks again for another historical account abouot these long forgotten ships that did so much work on the Great Lakes. This was never part of any history lesson when I was in school. I was never told much about the Great Lakes, or that they were used for shipping, other than they were 5 big lakes. It is nice to know more history about these areas and the roles played in our history.
Keep up the good work. Thank you! Blessings, Michelle Reed, Gresham Oregon USA
16:20, The United States Life-Saving Service was a United States government agency that grew out of private and local humanitarian efforts to save the lives of shipwrecked mariners and passengers. It began in 1848 and ultimately merged with the Revenue Cutter Service to form the United States Coast Guard in 1915.
I just got the notification you posted a new video! I want to say funnily enough I bought myself a ridge wallet last week and the key organizer. This is my first full week using it and I'm pretty happy with how it feels. But enough of that. I love how detailed your videos are, you also track down some awesome footage to use throughout and it flows together perfectly. Kinda creepy how the Captain made the same call twice to make sure she understood exactly what to do...anyways loved the video and can't wait for what's next!
So sad for the families and friends. The Great Lakes are very dangerous yet people still attempt to cross them in bad weather. So many stories of lost souls. Your videos are always special.
How many ships get lost on their last runs of the season?!
I was thinking the same. Almost all stories are "it was their last run of the season" or "it was the last season for the captian" 😳
All of them, technically.
Yes. :)
Many… Greed and pride. They’re not called “deadly sins” for nothing.
My thoughts exactly lol@@warmstrong5612
Thank you for this video and all your hard work.
I've become a great lake freighter nerd thanks to you😊. I love those ships. Their history is heartbreaking and intense.
Thank you for new life joy and interest.
Your music choices are so on point, excellent video as always! I really love how you put these stories together, how you share the background and really humanize these historical moments. The technical knowledge is excellent too. As things go from bad to worse in the events that unfold, there is a real sense of relief when you play the outro music and roll credits.
I'm currently onboard the Barkan Viking. It's definitely a big old boat worthy of an episode
The floating luxury hotel?
It's quite cheap really. But it wasn't always a hotel
@ Just checked .. definitely affordable 53 sq foot room.
It used to be a freighter I see , that’s pretty cool
I love the old ore loading machines...
This story is absolutely wild but incredibly sad that the ship is still missing and those men are still down there somwhere in the chilly deaths and darkness of the lake's may those men be at peace hopefully someday someone will discover the final resting place and solve what happened
Another fascinating video. I lived just outside of Collingwood from 1979 to 1989 and went to high school in Collingwood. My parents owned a small grocery store and a galley supply company. I got to tour quite a few lakers being built or in port in Collingwood. It was always cool to see a big ship at the end of the main street.
Love the Great Lakes videos best! If you can, I’d love more Lake Erie wrecks in particular. Thanks for the content!!
The Black Friday Storm of 1916 would be nice to see!
Thank you for doing these videos. You cover so many ships that are long gone to history. Only remembered by Old-Timers and descendants of those who were lost. I appreciate your good work. Keep it up my friend. ⚓
From David here in Cromer on the North Norfolk coast East Anglia England What a heart breaking story really really sad And the story of the guy's folded jacket at the end of the film ? Incredibly emotional These films and memories are so important for us all never to forget these brave men who were just doing there job but a very dangerous job Thanks for posting I've subbed the channel because living where I live The nautical theme is very relevant It's lifeboats here on the East coast All the way up the East side of the UK From the tip of Scotland to the bottom of Devon and Cornwall ❤️
One of my favorite channels! Always so well produced and always interesting. Even when I’m familiar with a subject, I learn something new. Thank you for your great work.
Agreed, and what helps is the pleasant voice, well modulated, evenly paced.
Been waiting for another one....always a pleasure, especially before i go to sleep at night. Like bed time stories for adults 😊. I rewatch these constantly
Those massive steam shovels they had for unloading the ships are incredible,I have never seen anything like them before.May the crew of the D.M. Clemson Rest in Peace.
Such a shame. I can’t imagine the amount of anxiety one would feel out there on an underpowered freighter in a massive storm.
I have lived near the ocean all my life and swim regularly.
It amazes me when I swim in freshwater and notice the difference in buoyancy.
I like the ending theme music, it brings me back to the present...but during the stories, i like the idea of period music of the time being used, and being a big guitar fan- I like in some of the episodes using the lonely cords struck on an acoustic guitar...low and sad sounding. This is my favorite channel to relax to before bed. I still think of those poor souls lost to the chilly waters of the great lakes. Bless them all.
Love the clips of the Hewlett loaders in action. Sad story.
Great video! The mystery of the D.M. Clemson is really interesting, and the new crew members add a lot to the story. Can’t wait to see what happens next!
Nice video, I grew up in Cleveland and near Lorain, and am pretty familiar with Ashtabula
Thank you for another great video. You cover them with care and respect
A last voyage of the season on the Great Lakes is never “routine.”
Let's hope that the Clemson will be found in the future.
Thanks for this excellent program. As always, these tragic stories haunt the living.
Another interesting story-thank you!
Another remarkable video honouring those lost on the great lakes.
This is one of my most favorite channels on RUclips. Please keep these awesome videos coming. I've often wondered what it would have been like to live during the turn of the 20th century. If I lived back then I may have considered joining one of the ore carriers of the day. Sounds like an adventure, plus no shortage of back breaking hard work. 🎶"Superior, they said, never gives up her dead When the gales of November come early".🎵
Yet another amazing program. I love the old film clips. Including and especially the old loading and unloading equipment and railway car segments. Story well told.:)
These are awesome I appreciate the time and effort to create these thank you
Great story. Wonderful story telling. Love this channel. A+
Another great story - I never tire of watching the film of these old freighters, and the old movie clips you use. My late father was a RN gunner on, among other things, the Arctic Ocean and Barents Sea patrols in WW2 (Yes, that's right. He survived PQ17) He told me of how they had to go round the ship with steam hoses every half an hour to fetch the ice off the superstructure, or they'd be heading straight down.......
What I’ve learned from most videos from here and the titanic, never go on a ships last voyage of the season, or with a captain about to retire.
And be sure to leave with any crew who have “premonitions”
That is a sad ending… you told it with such respect.
Awesome work. Thank you again for the share. Live finding ships I haven't heard off.
(20:00) Thank you for such a detailed and immersive video. Can't wait for the next one! 🌊
Excellent research! Love your channel. May the crew RIP. 🙏
RUclips was invented for channels like this… Another great video!
Wow, this was so well done! The effort really shows. 💯👌
Great video. Thanks for posting
Love your commentary
I love this channel, thank you for the post
Lived near the ship breaker in Port Colborne Ontario some of the stories that the guy’s that worked there said about how bad the ships were when they were retired amazes me how the men went out knowing how bad the conditions could get 😮❤
Good morning, BoB. Thanks for the upload, have a great day.
The "Last run of the season" monster claims another ship.
An excellent presentation. Well done.
Fair winds and following seas, R.I.P men of the D.M. Clemson.
I always appreciate it when you post a video.
Thank you 😊
Caught this one early! Let’s go!!!
BOB made my morning.
It's always the last run of the season when something goes wrong. Always. Especially on the Great Lakes. Based on how hard Frank Chamberlain's ship (forgot its name) got pummeled despite hugging the coastline closer and riding high out of the water, and still losing a few hatch covers, odds are the Clemson in the middle of the lake met the full force of the storm and simply got overwhelmed. Sad stuff. Always is, especially for those 2 boys who joined last second. I shudder thinking how that could've been me. RIP, and I hope her wreck is found someday.
Also, I will definitely be taking a look at that Ridge key holder. It has my interest. :D
It was the opposite. Clemson hugged the south shore, the other decided to stay out for sea room.
I love the dissonant guitar in the beginning and throughout.
Another well told tale. Thx.
I love your content soooo much. Instant sub since the 1st vid I watched.
So sorry to all impacted rip dear friends brave heroes never forgotten😞🙏❤️
Superb as always. You make tragedy poetic.
Great video!
I get a little annoyed when those people in the office are forcing the captains to make one more trip in bad weather just to boost their profits at the expense.of safety of their ships and crews. RIP those brave men who sail on the sweet. water seas. May the Clemson be found and closure be given to their families.
I spend a lot of time between Crisp Point and Vermillion. I always think about the Clemson resting out there. They will find her some day. Great video as always.
Great writing
Great show.
Wake up babe! Big Ol Boats video! Babe? Oh wait... I don't have a girlfriend.
Yeah Babe? Oh BOB posted! Let's watch! 🍿
I feel honoured to be the first to congratulate you on your new relationship
hahha
Hulett unloaders!! One helluva machine!!
And I live in Sandusky Ohio, where they roll coal cars upside down 24 hours a day!!
I love the great lakes stories. So many to tell.
Another very informative video.
Great Video Bob so eerie Too👍😱😱😱😱
Babe wake up BoB uploaded a new video!
BOLO!
You, sir, are a story teller.
Brilliant! Another winner! 😊
I enjoy your channel! FYI, if you use those keys in the advert change your locks.
Nice saturday morning. On the coast of Maine
I wish you would do more research into the role ship ownership, unions, and government protections play in these disasters.
Keep in mind these vessels made all (survivng) concerned enough money to take the risk. What were common ore vessel wages for various ranks?
Thank you.