Whenever a society is far more focused on "productivity", money, wealth accumulation than creativity, that society is rotting from within. Think about a walk in a favourite place, it's a place of serenity or beauty or something else that's soothing. We're losing the greatest abilities we have in creativity, art, music when it can be digitalized without the effort, the craft, the skills learned over years. We're losing.
@@jimtomo9207 whereas we should'f international syndicalisn! Or not?! God knows, but He won't tell. Or does He? His Holy Son maybe? Not holding my breath here, but possibly Jesus *is* gonna tell us!! Or not so much perhapsipepsi.
You miss a contradictory thinker who thought himself into the corner of deploring a debased culture maintained by a capitalist ideology he's very careful not to criticize? I fail to see what's missable about that.
Capitalism strives on individualism. Individualism results in conflicts, and divisions within a society, making it difficult to maintain a cohesive cultural identity. In a highly individualistic society, culture has been reduced to a commodity to be bought, sold, and consumed for personal pleasure or profit. In order to maintain growth the markets need to exploit different desires, so our culture is no longer passed down through different generations, its appropriated for us by the markets.
Why do people feel the need for cohesion of culture. Surely our society is a mishmash and better for it. We can enjoy food which is different from our norm, we can enjoy entertainment outside of our usual taste. We can choose to live with the variety and interest of different viewpoints or live bland and boring lifestyle. Now this means that underprivileged groups of society are promoted. Do privileged social groups see this as a threat or could they embrace the concept of a multicultural society for the enrichment of life experience?
@@martynbrown8210we are moving to bulkanization wake up. The scale of White flight from London is massive. Immigration is just capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Oligarchs love immigration. There will be no good ending now.
@@martynbrown8210his country didn't need immigration to be intresting. We lead the World in Industry, Art and culture. Shakespeare to Dickens to the Rolling Stones. We made the Modern World.
Any system that creates and/or enables billionaires is destructive to everyone and everything (including themselves, however oblivious they might be to that outcome).
@MrAchile13 While violent-destructive instincts are well-entrenched in human DNA, people of today also have the benefit of "learning" from history and also creating systems that facilitate justice, fairness and equality. That will only come about when the masses FINALLY summon the courage to make the wealthy and powerful accountable. Currently that doesn't happen.
@@greenpostdoc But again, was there ever a civilization without having a few people gathering wealth around them? If so, what makes you so sure such a thing can be done and it's not a utopia? What are you arguing for exactly? Redistribution? How can this be done without violence and tyranny? Also, wouldn't a fair and equal society facilitate the accumulation of wealth and power? Wouldn't the competent worker be payed more then the mediocre one? Wouldn't he be promoted to leading positions? Our violent and destructive instincts are not inherently bad, but their manifestations can be cathegorised as good or bad.
@MrAchile13 Well don't look now but the handwriting is on the proverbial wall. Intelligent, educated, compassionate, honest, courageous people either MAKE the wealthy and powerful accountable -- or the wealthy and powerful will destroy everything. It's more than obvious that these characters aren't the brightest stars in the cosmos. So this isn't a matter of "that's just the way it's always been" so things will never change. But an abundance of courage -- arguably the ultimate virtue -- is essential to facilitate accountability and make changes.
The german variant, the "Rheinischer Kapitaliamus" worked well and brought up the most Nobel prices. May be capitalism needs a Kaiserreich, to hold up culture.
Indeed it does, by its very function it allows maximal cultural growth. How much cultural expression existed in Soviet Russia? In Nazi Germany? In North Korea? In any anti-capitalist state? All of those and countless others speak of cultural revolution precisely because they want to supplant many viewpoints--a rich culture--with one official culture and viewpoint.
Absurd, as always, to assert that the only alternative to capitalism is totalitarianism. Ask your favorite musicians what it’s like to be hounded and dictated to by record companies, marketing departments, managers, and the rest. Capitalism allows everything to overproduce for the sake of sales and unlimited growth. That’s a reason that today, the visual arts, for example, are a marketplace rather than a domain of careful deliberation on the human condition. “Ooh, your last work sold for big bucks…do more of those! Quickly! Efficiently!”
I do ask myself. Why is it that persons of each gender, have an unkempt appearance when they are not on radio but on screen. Trying to follow his reasoning and point of vue . I am constantly consciouse he has unbrushed teeth. How can one discuss culture?
A) We can't even see their teeth. B) Older people's teeth are frequently stained as a result of all that coffee, tea, wine or tobacco over the years. C) WHO BLOODY CARES?
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Whenever a society is far more focused on "productivity", money, wealth accumulation than creativity, that society is rotting from within.
Think about a walk in a favourite place, it's a place of serenity or beauty or something else that's soothing.
We're losing the greatest abilities we have in creativity, art, music when it can be digitalized without the effort, the craft, the skills learned over years. We're losing.
Well said, there zhould be a balance for sure.
So right you are!
That is not a question it is an observation "Capitalism is Ruining Culture!" The single determining dimension.
We don't have capitalism. We have national syndicalism
@@jimtomo9207 whereas we should'f international syndicalisn! Or not?! God knows, but He won't tell. Or does He? His Holy Son maybe? Not holding my breath here, but possibly Jesus *is* gonna tell us!! Or not so much perhapsipepsi.
What on earth is national syndicalism. You've 100% made that up for the sake of this connect section.
@@joop5415
From Wikipedia:
"National syndicalism is a far-right adaptation of syndicalism to suit the broader agenda of integral nationalism..."
We miss Sir Scruton in this day and age dearly.
You miss a contradictory thinker who thought himself into the corner of deploring a debased culture maintained by a capitalist ideology he's very careful not to criticize? I fail to see what's missable about that.
Capitalism strives on individualism. Individualism results in conflicts, and divisions within a society, making it difficult to maintain a cohesive cultural identity. In a highly individualistic society, culture has been reduced to a commodity to be bought, sold, and consumed for personal pleasure or profit. In order to maintain growth the markets need to exploit different desires, so our culture is no longer passed down through different generations, its appropriated for us by the markets.
Why do people feel the need for cohesion of culture. Surely our society is a mishmash and better for it. We can enjoy food which is different from our norm, we can enjoy entertainment outside of our usual taste. We can choose to live with the variety and interest of different viewpoints or live bland and boring lifestyle. Now this means that underprivileged groups of society are promoted. Do privileged social groups see this as a threat or could they embrace the concept of a multicultural society for the enrichment of life experience?
@@martynbrown8210we are moving to bulkanization wake up.
The scale of White flight from London is massive. Immigration is just capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Oligarchs love immigration.
There will be no good ending now.
@@martynbrown8210his country didn't need immigration to be intresting. We lead the World in Industry, Art and culture. Shakespeare to Dickens to the Rolling Stones. We made the Modern World.
Any system that creates and/or enables billionaires is destructive to everyone and everything (including themselves, however oblivious they might be to that outcome).
But isn't this a by bi-product of civilization? Was there ever a prosperous civilization without having a few peoples gathering wealth around them?
Why exactly is it destructive ? And are you sure it is at least as destructive as other systems (like billionaire free communism)?
@MrAchile13 While violent-destructive instincts are well-entrenched in human DNA, people of today also have the benefit of "learning" from history and also creating systems that facilitate justice, fairness and equality. That will only come about when the masses FINALLY summon the courage to make the wealthy and powerful accountable. Currently that doesn't happen.
@@greenpostdoc But again, was there ever a civilization without having a few people gathering wealth around them? If so, what makes you so sure such a thing can be done and it's not a utopia? What are you arguing for exactly? Redistribution? How can this be done without violence and tyranny?
Also, wouldn't a fair and equal society facilitate the accumulation of wealth and power? Wouldn't the competent worker be payed more then the mediocre one? Wouldn't he be promoted to leading positions?
Our violent and destructive instincts are not inherently bad, but their manifestations can be cathegorised as good or bad.
@MrAchile13 Well don't look now but the handwriting is on the proverbial wall. Intelligent, educated, compassionate, honest, courageous people either MAKE the wealthy and powerful accountable -- or the wealthy and powerful will destroy everything. It's more than obvious that these characters aren't the brightest stars in the cosmos. So this isn't a matter of "that's just the way it's always been" so things will never change. But an abundance of courage -- arguably the ultimate virtue -- is essential to facilitate accountability and make changes.
Didn’t convince me
of what?
The german variant, the "Rheinischer Kapitaliamus" worked well and brought up the most Nobel prices.
May be capitalism needs a Kaiserreich, to hold up culture.
Capitalism allows culture to thrive.
Yeah the culture of billionaires like George Soros
Indeed it does, by its very function it allows maximal cultural growth. How much cultural expression existed in Soviet Russia? In Nazi Germany? In North Korea? In any anti-capitalist state? All of those and countless others speak of cultural revolution precisely because they want to supplant many viewpoints--a rich culture--with one official culture and viewpoint.
Absurd, as always, to assert that the only alternative to capitalism is totalitarianism. Ask your favorite musicians what it’s like to be hounded and dictated to by record companies, marketing departments, managers, and the rest. Capitalism allows everything to overproduce for the sake of sales and unlimited growth. That’s a reason that today, the visual arts, for example, are a marketplace rather than a domain of careful deliberation on the human condition. “Ooh, your last work sold for big bucks…do more of those! Quickly! Efficiently!”
@@rosselliot8971 Was there no culture before capitalism came about ?
yeah, that’s why Ancient Greece created such great works of art, right? They had capitalism?
Jeez dude, pick up a book or something
IQ2 = IQ-2 Neither of these two know what Capitalism is.
capitalism has different stages
12 people have 12 different veiws of what Capitalism is.
@@evolassunglasses4673 --- No, there is only one definition of what Capitalism is.
@@JohnQPublic11 What do you think that definition is?
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I do ask myself. Why is it that persons of each gender, have an unkempt appearance when they are not on radio but on screen. Trying to follow his reasoning and point of vue . I am constantly consciouse he has unbrushed teeth. How can one discuss culture?
A) We can't even see their teeth. B) Older people's teeth are frequently stained as a result of all that coffee, tea, wine or tobacco over the years. C) WHO BLOODY CARES?
@@kell_checks_inD) teeth may be yellow naturally even without staining E) they’re Englishmen
How is that relevant to the discussion?