I was one of the people that asked, thanks Coop!! Please don't forget to talk about which one is more convenient when assembling and moving. The final thing I'd like to ask is, which one is more stable. I live in an apartment and I do have neighbors so I don't want anything that's too loud or shakes when I use it.
Loved my Titan functional trainer so far. Like most of my equipment I got it before prices jumped so it was around $2200 after taxes. I also put it together without help (including unboxing and moving) so that is possible for thoses that are curious, but an extra person would have made the process faster.
I love that Titan and others are making these for the home gym crowd. I don't need more than a pulley system in my three post T3, but I like that garage gymers are being catered to
A full Functional Trainer is the one piece my basement gym is missing...I just wish I had the space for the FT5000. This was Coop and Sam at their best, thanks!
I have a cheeper list pull down with an additional row pully and it's definitely missing the full functionality of this. Also paid $200 used for mine... not $2000 new.
I have an Inspire FTX that I bought from Costco and it's pretty great for the price. Can't wait for you to review it. I was worried about it not having enough weight when I bought it, but it hasn't been an issue for me. It's great for accessories.
Picked mine up last fall for 1200$ shipped. I love it and the only con I have (and it's pretty minor) is that the pull up bar is low for me. I'm 6'3". I bought it knowing that because I have a low ceiling in my basement. When I eventually finish the garage, I'll mount it on some 6x6 timbers.
please do a video about functional trainer vs cable crossovers and the pros and cons of both -- Specifically the advantage and disadvantage of the width and how it affects the exercises
I've had my "plate loaded functional trainer" from Titan for about 3 weeks now. About half the price of this version including the olympic plates I bought for it. I love it and it's much better than just using bands for the movement. I noticed an earlier commenter asking about space(footprint.) Titan shows the size specs on their website for both the plate loaded version and this weight stack version.
@@Corpsefart If you look at the size of the footprint you aren't getting the huge open space you get with a dedicated cable cross over. That being said, I've found that if I stand about a foot or so back from center that puts me at a good spot for doing both low and high crossovers. I think part of finding your "sweet spot" with this machine depends on your own size almost as much as the machine itself. I'm roughly 6 feet tall with very little torso. I have 36 inch arms and therefore a relatively large wingspan and yet I was doing crossovers yesterday without any problem. Unlike the weight stack version the plate loaded version doesn't have the holes on the uprights numbered so you have to kind of play around with it a bit to figure out were the pulley heights are good for you and then use it enough times so that you almost instinctively know what height is right for each exercise.(I hope that helps. As far as I know both versions are currently on sale. I ordered mine on Valentine's day and Fed Ex delivered it to my house that Thursday. So far I'm very happy with my purchase.)
@@jd345050 I'm happy with the high and low row so far. I've actually owned a dedicated lat tower for a good 20 years now and it's not the same as that one but I actually have them in two different rooms of my house and am finding the Titan version worthwhile when I'm doing things in that room. If you look at Coop's video he does a low row with the other version but on that one there are no foot stops so I'm guessing you can't go very heavy on that one. In addition to using the low pulley for traditional back work I've found in the short time I've had the machine that I prefer the low pulley for belt squats over trying to use one of the "crossover pulleys" for that movement. Part of that might be the fact that I have relatively long legs.(I hope that helps you with your decision.)
Hey Coop, is there any chance of getting a review of all the available neck trainers? I'd love to see your take on classic designs like the Dmoose or GS Harness(Used by a lot of F1 drivers) vs something like the Iron Neck. Big thanks to you and your team for all you do. You're definitely my first stop before I buy any new equipment. Keep up the good work👍
I’ve had the Inspire FTX for almost a year and it has served me well. Got for $1,000 free shipping plus tax. It’s also very compact for a trainer. Costcos real gem is the Inspire Power Rack it’s very Sturdy has lots of extras like a multi grip pull up bar , dip bar , ext arms, land mine for rows and it’s only $800.
Hey coop please don't forget about your neighbors to the north. I would really appreciate you covering some of the functional trainers that are either sold in Canada and ship to the US or sold in the US and shipped to Canada. Thanks a lot love the content!!!
Don‘t know what the presenter is called (yet), but every time I watch a video I am reminded of Ross Marquand. Same gesturing and facial expressions. Great videos btw. Thank you!
Solid review. You know my stance, Marketplace commercial pieces. I have had a PowerTech, Body Solid, Precor, and now a LifeFitness Signature series functional trainer. The LifeFitness is what I have used in commercial gyms and I paid $2,400 for it used. Each FT has been an upgrade and this is absolutely my favorite.
If you lacking in space get the Inspire FTX. It even comes with a low bench made for the system. You are only losing 35lbs on the weight stack but its a huge trade off price wise. If I had the space and or money I'd always opt to choose the free motion dual stack, the pinnacle for functional trainers.
Great review, excellent filming, well done! Titan sells a single stack plate loaded cable tower, it's essentially half a functional trainer and it's definitely low cost. That product has a very small and narrow footprint ie....perfect for a garage gym. I wish Titan or someone else would use that small footprint with a weight stack and higher quality components....I looked around but it just doesn't exist....perhaps a future review on single stack towers and your thoughts on future manufacturing ideas?
Costco occasionally has the Inspire Fitness on sale as well. I was able to get mine for $1300 and free shipping (+ tax) in January of 2021 Not quite the same as it's 150 pound stacks (165 with top plate) vs 200 and it came with a bench (that is pretty meh honestly) but for the price, it has served me well.
I have it as well. I put the bench away lol didn't care for it but the functional trainer is really nice. I didn't expect it to be near as smooth as it is after using commercial ones.
I have this machine along with the lat pull down, preacher and leg estension/ leg curl. It’s my most used machine. Iv been learning so many new exercises especially with the straight bar attachment that I haven’t seen anyone show before.
You have to include the poor man's functional trainer in your breakdown: 2× Titan's Wall Mounted Pulley Towers spaced roughly 6' apart. A lot of people are going this route, and though it's plate loaded, and slumming it for some, it works for many people.
I'm going to do the same with two Titan short wall mounted pulley towers, which I already paid for but am waiting on backorder for them to be delivered. My plan is to use L-brackets connected to a 113 inch metal bar at the top of the pulley towers so that the towers will be self-standing and won't have to be wall mounted. I paid $431.98 for the two short pulley towers, and I already have the bar, L-brackets, bolts, and nuts.
I currently have a Valor Fitness plate loaded FT, the BD-61, which is a copy of the titan fitness one and after using it for almost 6 months I gotta say I am so tired of constantly changing the weights on that thing. I think the other big thing for a lot of consumers and these machines is footprint and how it fits in their space. The measurements on the website don't really give a clear picture of how the machine fits in your space. For example the plate loaded ones can't go right up against the wall unless you only use smaller weights. I like to have mine in the corner but because of its shape it sticks off each wall 18". Torque has the fold away version which is very appealing except I don't ever need to "put it away" as my space is dedicated gym space and not used for anything else. But I would love to see how the different machines fit in the corner as they have different angles and width between each tower. The one advantage I'll give to the plate loaded machines is they have a dedicated Lat pulldown and low row system with different rations where the weight stack machines typically don't.
A few years ago, I drove 6 hrs FL->GA to pick-up a used Tuff Stuff PS-245 FT (as seen on Athlean-X RUclips Channel.) FT ($1800.00), U-Haul trailer ($35.00), gas ($150.00), 2, 2:1 cable ratio conversion kits from Tuff Stuff ($200.00) = $2185.00 2 x 200lb stacks, 2:1 ratio = 100lbs max resistance per 'arm' or 200lbs** max (**with a single connection point, if you connect both cable ends with a properly-rated carabiner from Home Depot or Lowes.)
To Coop's point about plate loaded vs weight stack, having plate loaded allows for the use of smaller plates if you want to do negatives for strength. Personally I like the fact that I can use fractional plates and small change plates from set to set.
@@mattlovelace91 You can do that and I have actually seen it done in some people's workout videos. Another big difference between the two Titan models is that the plate loaded version has a high and low pulley as well with the foot stops for the low pulley. On the con side, I believe the weight stack version has a slightly smaller footprint if space is a limiting factor.
@@jd345050 I’d like to know also. Cause my Rep high/low pulley isn’t smooth at all in my opinion. Even with dry and wet lubricants. It’s almost like it catches on the first 10-12” and then is smooth.
@@mattlovelace91 I'm finding that the high and low pulley aren't that bad but I want to add a bit more lubricant. In my case I don't think the problem is actually at the high and low pulley but at one of the other pulleys that is connected to it. In the plate loaded version there are actually three pulley cords rather than just the two that the weight stack version has. In the plate loaded version there is only the one "stack" so that more or less directly connects to the high and low but then the other two cables connect into it so that you can use the cable cross over pulleys for other exercises. I think it is some of the other pulleys I'm hearing "squeal" a bit. I also want to spray a bit more silicone onto the plate slides though. I've only done one application versus a lat pull down station I've had for close to 20 years now that is extremely smooth because it has been lubricated numerous times over the years. I think like any new toy you have to play with it a bit to get it adjusted exactly the way you want it.(I hope if you read all that that it is at least a bit useful.)
I bought a double pulley system with rope attachment and short straight bar as well a dual single handles does all that and I use my own plates. No issues works well not the best but the space saving is great just hook it up to your pull up bar
Thanks for this review. I'm in the market for a functional trainer, but trying to hold out to get more info on the Rep Ares. If that doesn't work out, I'll likely be going with this.
GGR team, when can we expect the video comparing the various functional trainers on the market?! I know Coop asked us to be patient but that was a full month ago! Do you have an ETA for that video? I don’t want to make a purchase before I watch that comparison video
For me it came down to this or the Rep 5000. I decided on the titan. And I haven’t regretted that decision at all. The crate arrived in perfect condition. Everything inside was nicely wrapped. I have some assembly experience, so my son and I only spent about an hour putting it together. I use it every day for every muscle I do. Definitely one of the best home gym expenses that I’ve made!
Thanks for the Scoop Coop but I swooped up the FTX for 1k with a bench at Costco and so far so smooth when I groove, I also made mine 200 per stack with a 20 buck pin
Been hoping to see this one! I’ve been eyeing this thing for weeks now, but afraid to pull the trigger. Just kept thinking “I wish Coop would review this”
You missed a part I was waiting for…. the measurements! My ceiling is 85” so I’m always checking the height of equipment so I’ll know if it will fit it or not! Also curious about the width so I know if it’s good for crossover exercises or not. also also, it would be great if you included if the gym pin for adding plate weights would work with this.
Look to Costco for the FTX Inspire Functional Trainer. It comes with a solid bench. FTX is very smooth and easy to assemble. Use silicone lube to keep it smooth.
Love your work Coop + Sam - for someone low on space I wonder how the Force USA G3 or G6 weighs up having the half rack functionality along with functional trainer functionality...
Titan Fitness is getting greedy with their prices. Their tibia dorsi went up 60% over the last few months ($125 to $200). The lat pulldown went from $1149 to $1299 to $1499 (thanks to Coop who said it was worth $1500 back when it was $1149 or $1299) and now at $1699. Just not The same value now that it used to be to buy from them. What I really thought was crazy was their eccentric hook extensions that used to be like $38 are now $99. Oh and the plate loaded functional trainer went from $750 to $1000. (33% jump) Edit: a good example is the Titan plate loaded lat extension for their 100” Titan Series. They want $1000+ for one upright, a couple rods, couple crossmembers, and some pulleys. And the only color option is black. No thank you!! Not when they have an entire plate loaded lat pulldown for $499 (currently on sale for $399). That is a SERIOUS up charge.
1. It's largely due to Covid. All companies are experiencing the same problem 2. Titan is trying to make higher quality products than before, more comparable to Rep. This means less cost-cutting Titan is trying to move away from being the cheapest (lowest quality) option
@@amunra4256 I understand that the cargo ships sitting out in the ocean have had an impact on prices. And you are correct, Titan has improved their product line along with their packaging. The only problem is all of the items I listed have been unchanged. The lat pulldown is going to get the new textured upholstery this year but the current unit has been the exact same for the last 2 to 3 years.
@@meisdetermined my lat pulldown machine should be delivered in 3 days if it's as good as everyone that has it says then I think 1700 is good as long as they don't go up any more. I've seen a video from someone who ordered recently and they say the seat material is already changed.
@@johnnelwhite that’s good to hear! I hope it lives up to the recommendations. Maybe one day they will have another sale where they offer 10% off and then it would be an exceptional value. Fingers crossed!
@@johnnelwhite OK inquiring minds need to know lol. Does it have the upgraded upholstery? Also, did they correct the gap in the low row pulley system or is it still possible for the cable to come off of the pulley? Is the weight stack system amazing or just kind of amazing? :)
Space for a lot of us is limited, I do wish Coop talked a little more about how much space you need to dedicate to something like this to use it to it's full potential.
@@AlbertFischer I know what you mean, but a piece like this you also have to account for the length of the pulleys for certain movements. As a reviewer Coop could show us the actual working footprint space that we would need to dedicate and which movements this could impact IMO.
@@joecowan3719 I agree. I've had the plate loaded version for about 2 weeks now and I'm still figuring out where I need to stand in the room for certain movements. I have extra long arms(36 inches) so I also need to figure out which pulley works best for each movement and also the height setting as well as how much chain I need from the pulley to the handle. I'm in a rather small space though and so far have had no problems. I wish you luck in figuring out your home gym. I've been at it for 37 years now.
Ok, you have me sufficiently hyped for your next meta-review. Also, poor Sam… Lastly, one aspect I’ve been curious about re: pulley weight carriages is how some utilize guide rods and some have posts (I’ve seen either with both stacks or plate loaded.) Just wondering what the differences are. (Yes, I’m thinking of making my own.) Oh, also, two stacks or one? Differences?
Pull ups are the best for strength and conditioning. You can add weight with chains. You don't need a lat pull down/squat rack pull down for a basic home gym.
I like functional trainers. Used to think they were a joke until I used one exclusively for a month at an extended stay hotel for business. Imagination truly was my only limiting factor. Squats, crossovers, curls, extensions, rows, pullups pretty much anything.
Me, too. I bought a no-brand functional trainer similar to the one reviewed here a couple of years ago, and I love it. I use it every day. The assembly was a bit difficult, and I made the same mistake Coop’s team did by reversing the two sides on my first attempt. Other than that, it’s been perfect.
I think universally we all would prefer the weight stack model but for the money, the majority will go for the weight loaded option as its almost a third of the cost. Also, what i realized watching this was the lat pulldown option for most racks will do the majority of what the funtional trainer will do. For me, thats the better option. Plus, i already own it. So there's that.
@@ChrisP3000x For those of us who already have home gyms and this is just an addition to the home gym the additional cost of weight plates does not something we have to think about. But your point is valid, depending on who you're talking to
@@ChrisP3000x I thought I will be much more a headache than it turned out to be I have a plate loaded functional trainer sitting next to the squad rack not that much of an issue.
I own a plate loaded now and it doesn't really bother me I've used both. We're both stating what we like I'm saying I don't care which one We don't need to go any further
Coop!!! Do you have any recommendations for getting a deadlift bar? And if you have a video on this could you share it? Love the channel and thanks for sharing your knowledge of home gym life. It has been really nice to go to someone about this stuff!!!
Coop! Have you ever considered to have a sub channel on “Assembly” only? I mean, you go through tons of equipment that are quite popular and most of the time, these manufacturers have very poor quality instructions (including REPs videos on how tos!), wouldn’t this be a “win, win” for GGR team to have this specific videos uploaded here as well? Anyways…Just a thought and keep up the cool content!
you have passion for gym equipment which is nice to see it shows but not once have you ever mentioned a very reputable company that has been manufacturing equipment for over 42 years from montreal canada the company is called ATLANTIS STRENGTH by far they have the best functional trainer this company furnishes nba teams nhl teams basketball teams in the nba as well as 75% of bodybuilding gyms and oxygen gym in kuwait which is the best equipped gym in the world i can go in and on hopefully would like to see some atlantis equipment featured in your videos it’s always the same videos you seem to push rogue rep etc hope to see some higher quality equipment
This video dropped 2 days after I ordered this . It arrives tomorrow !
I was one of the people that asked, thanks Coop!! Please don't forget to talk about which one is more convenient when assembling and moving. The final thing I'd like to ask is, which one is more stable. I live in an apartment and I do have neighbors so I don't want anything that's too loud or shakes when I use it.
Have it, and it's amazing!! 200 lbs a side is perfect
Loved my Titan functional trainer so far. Like most of my equipment I got it before prices jumped so it was around $2200 after taxes. I also put it together without help (including unboxing and moving) so that is possible for thoses that are curious, but an extra person would have made the process faster.
This is one of the best review channels for any products, regardless of industry.
That said, dude, the word "height" ends in a "t".
Width. Height.
I love that Titan and others are making these for the home gym crowd. I don't need more than a pulley system in my three post T3, but I like that garage gymers are being catered to
A full Functional Trainer is the one piece my basement gym is missing...I just wish I had the space for the FT5000. This was Coop and Sam at their best, thanks!
I have a cheeper list pull down with an additional row pully and it's definitely missing the full functionality of this. Also paid $200 used for mine... not $2000 new.
The economics of this channel and your team continues to mystify me, but I'm so glad you're doing it.
Gotta do the Force USA G20....best bang for your buck!
We need more Sam!
I have an Inspire FTX that I bought from Costco and it's pretty great for the price. Can't wait for you to review it. I was worried about it not having enough weight when I bought it, but it hasn't been an issue for me. It's great for accessories.
Picked mine up last fall for 1200$ shipped. I love it and the only con I have (and it's pretty minor) is that the pull up bar is low for me. I'm 6'3".
I bought it knowing that because I have a low ceiling in my basement. When I eventually finish the garage, I'll mount it on some 6x6 timbers.
They have push pins you can buy that are big enough to add Olympic weights to. That’s my plan for it.
please do a video about functional trainer vs cable crossovers and the pros and cons of both -- Specifically the advantage and disadvantage of the width and how it affects the exercises
I've had my "plate loaded functional trainer" from Titan for about 3 weeks now. About half the price of this version including the olympic plates I bought for it. I love it and it's much better than just using bands for the movement. I noticed an earlier commenter asking about space(footprint.) Titan shows the size specs on their website for both the plate loaded version and this weight stack version.
Been wanting to get the plate loaded one, wondering if the pulleys are far enough apart for cable crossovers?
I've looked at the plate loaded option because of the high and low rows added as well. How is it working out so far?
@@Corpsefart yes, i have the plate loaded one and I do crossovers with them
@@Corpsefart If you look at the size of the footprint you aren't getting the huge open space you get with a dedicated cable cross over. That being said, I've found that if I stand about a foot or so back from center that puts me at a good spot for doing both low and high crossovers. I think part of finding your "sweet spot" with this machine depends on your own size almost as much as the machine itself. I'm roughly 6 feet tall with very little torso. I have 36 inch arms and therefore a relatively large wingspan and yet I was doing crossovers yesterday without any problem. Unlike the weight stack version the plate loaded version doesn't have the holes on the uprights numbered so you have to kind of play around with it a bit to figure out were the pulley heights are good for you and then use it enough times so that you almost instinctively know what height is right for each exercise.(I hope that helps. As far as I know both versions are currently on sale. I ordered mine on Valentine's day and Fed Ex delivered it to my house that Thursday. So far I'm very happy with my purchase.)
@@jd345050 I'm happy with the high and low row so far. I've actually owned a dedicated lat tower for a good 20 years now and it's not the same as that one but I actually have them in two different rooms of my house and am finding the Titan version worthwhile when I'm doing things in that room. If you look at Coop's video he does a low row with the other version but on that one there are no foot stops so I'm guessing you can't go very heavy on that one. In addition to using the low pulley for traditional back work I've found in the short time I've had the machine that I prefer the low pulley for belt squats over trying to use one of the "crossover pulleys" for that movement. Part of that might be the fact that I have relatively long legs.(I hope that helps you with your decision.)
Sam you are the real MVP
I'm dying here, you need to have the A-Sam-bly Room a continued thing.
Hey Coop, is there any chance of getting a review of all the available neck trainers? I'd love to see your take on classic designs like the Dmoose or GS Harness(Used by a lot of F1 drivers) vs something like the Iron Neck.
Big thanks to you and your team for all you do. You're definitely my first stop before I buy any new equipment.
Keep up the good work👍
Inspire FT1/FT2
I’ve had the Inspire FTX for almost a year and it has served me well. Got for $1,000 free shipping plus tax. It’s also very compact for a trainer. Costcos real gem is the Inspire Power Rack it’s very Sturdy has lots of extras like a multi grip pull up bar , dip bar , ext arms, land mine for rows and it’s only $800.
Had an Inspire FT1 for a while now. Its an excellent machine and would recommend for a home gym. It works for me.
I have the FTX I bought for around $1200 total from Costco last summer and I love it.
Hey coop please don't forget about your neighbors to the north. I would really appreciate you covering some of the functional trainers that are either sold in Canada and ship to the US or sold in the US and shipped to Canada. Thanks a lot love the content!!!
I have the titan plate loaded version. Love it.
Plates are the future!
I can't see myself getting anything other that the REP Ares. Hopefully it lives up to the hype.
wondering what titans answer to the ares will be you know they will copy it eventually
Don‘t know what the presenter is called (yet), but every time I watch a video I am reminded of Ross Marquand. Same gesturing and facial expressions.
Great videos btw. Thank you!
This is nice, still using my diy $35 plate loaded cable pulley.
for crossovers and face pulls?
I own this machine. Adequate weights with the 2 stacks. Smooth movement with easy assembly. 👌
can one person assemble it?
I have the Torque Fitness foldable functional trainer. it works great and saves space alot of space once closed.
Solid review. You know my stance, Marketplace commercial pieces. I have had a PowerTech, Body Solid, Precor, and now a LifeFitness Signature series functional trainer. The LifeFitness is what I have used in commercial gyms and I paid $2,400 for it used. Each FT has been an upgrade and this is absolutely my favorite.
How about a review of the Inspire lineup? FTX, FT1, FT2, and SCS? There’s a lot of people that would love to add these to their garage gym.
Can't wait for the full functional trainer comparison video!
Damn, I had no idea that LifeFitness one was that expensive. I love the Patagonia shirt though.
Hey man thanks for your reviews, and you have hit all the points as i am evaluating a functional trainer. thanks for the work you did
A review on a functional trainer attachment for a squat cage would be great
Nothing is better than a Prodigy fitness selectorized rack 😉👍
For the price I love my Rep lat low row attachment and bands. If I’d ever want a functional trainer I’d just upgrade to the Ares
If you lacking in space get the Inspire FTX. It even comes with a low bench made for the system. You are only losing 35lbs on the weight stack but its a huge trade off price wise. If I had the space and or money I'd always opt to choose the free motion dual stack, the pinnacle for functional trainers.
Great review, excellent filming, well done! Titan sells a single stack plate loaded cable tower, it's essentially half a functional trainer and it's definitely low cost. That product has a very small and narrow footprint ie....perfect for a garage gym. I wish Titan or someone else would use that small footprint with a weight stack and higher quality components....I looked around but it just doesn't exist....perhaps a future review on single stack towers and your thoughts on future manufacturing ideas?
Costco occasionally has the Inspire Fitness on sale as well.
I was able to get mine for $1300 and free shipping (+ tax) in January of 2021
Not quite the same as it's 150 pound stacks (165 with top plate) vs 200 and it came with a bench (that is pretty meh honestly) but for the price, it has served me well.
I have it as well. I put the bench away lol didn't care for it but the functional trainer is really nice. I didn't expect it to be near as smooth as it is after using commercial ones.
Coop you are on the ball with these videos!
Coop, can you review heavy soft stackable ply boxes?
I have this machine along with the lat pull down, preacher and leg estension/ leg curl. It’s my most used machine. Iv been learning so many new exercises especially with the straight bar attachment that I haven’t seen anyone show before.
You have to include the poor man's functional trainer in your breakdown: 2× Titan's Wall Mounted Pulley Towers spaced roughly 6' apart. A lot of people are going this route, and though it's plate loaded, and slumming it for some, it works for many people.
I'm going to do the same with two Titan short wall mounted pulley towers, which I already paid for but am waiting on backorder for them to be delivered. My plan is to use L-brackets connected to a 113 inch metal bar at the top of the pulley towers so that the towers will be self-standing and won't have to be wall mounted.
I paid $431.98 for the two short pulley towers, and I already have the bar, L-brackets, bolts, and nuts.
@@shiwakuseven5859 Basically, you're making their cable crossover unit... and saving a few bucks.
I currently have a Valor Fitness plate loaded FT, the BD-61, which is a copy of the titan fitness one and after using it for almost 6 months I gotta say I am so tired of constantly changing the weights on that thing. I think the other big thing for a lot of consumers and these machines is footprint and how it fits in their space. The measurements on the website don't really give a clear picture of how the machine fits in your space. For example the plate loaded ones can't go right up against the wall unless you only use smaller weights. I like to have mine in the corner but because of its shape it sticks off each wall 18". Torque has the fold away version which is very appealing except I don't ever need to "put it away" as my space is dedicated gym space and not used for anything else. But I would love to see how the different machines fit in the corner as they have different angles and width between each tower. The one advantage I'll give to the plate loaded machines is they have a dedicated Lat pulldown and low row system with different rations where the weight stack machines typically don't.
A few years ago, I drove 6 hrs FL->GA to pick-up a used Tuff Stuff PS-245 FT (as seen on Athlean-X RUclips Channel.)
FT ($1800.00), U-Haul trailer ($35.00), gas ($150.00), 2, 2:1 cable ratio conversion kits from Tuff Stuff ($200.00) = $2185.00
2 x 200lb stacks, 2:1 ratio = 100lbs max resistance per 'arm' or 200lbs** max (**with a single connection point, if you connect both cable ends with a properly-rated carabiner from Home Depot or Lowes.)
To Coop's point about plate loaded vs weight stack, having plate loaded allows for the use of smaller plates if you want to do negatives for strength. Personally I like the fact that I can use fractional plates and small change plates from set to set.
One could argue that you could tack change plates to your stack with the pin/some proprietary holder/magnets also though.
@@mattlovelace91 You can do that and I have actually seen it done in some people's workout videos. Another big difference between the two Titan models is that the plate loaded version has a high and low pulley as well with the foot stops for the low pulley. On the con side, I believe the weight stack version has a slightly smaller footprint if space is a limiting factor.
Looking at the plate loaded version because the high and low rows. How is it? Smooth motion and everything g?
@@jd345050 I’d like to know also. Cause my Rep high/low pulley isn’t smooth at all in my opinion. Even with dry and wet lubricants. It’s almost like it catches on the first 10-12” and then is smooth.
@@mattlovelace91 I'm finding that the high and low pulley aren't that bad but I want to add a bit more lubricant. In my case I don't think the problem is actually at the high and low pulley but at one of the other pulleys that is connected to it. In the plate loaded version there are actually three pulley cords rather than just the two that the weight stack version has. In the plate loaded version there is only the one "stack" so that more or less directly connects to the high and low but then the other two cables connect into it so that you can use the cable cross over pulleys for other exercises. I think it is some of the other pulleys I'm hearing "squeal" a bit. I also want to spray a bit more silicone onto the plate slides though. I've only done one application versus a lat pull down station I've had for close to 20 years now that is extremely smooth because it has been lubricated numerous times over the years. I think like any new toy you have to play with it a bit to get it adjusted exactly the way you want it.(I hope if you read all that that it is at least a bit useful.)
Sick review! I’ve been thinking about dabbling with functional trainers.
Great review! Looking forward to the comparison video/article.
5:48 - The thing to connect them is hanging right behind you hanging on the machine 🤣😂😅😆
I bought a double pulley system with rope attachment and short straight bar as well a dual single handles does all that and I use my own plates. No issues works well not the best but the space saving is great just hook it up to your pull up bar
Thanks for this review. I'm in the market for a functional trainer, but trying to hold out to get more info on the Rep Ares. If that doesn't work out, I'll likely be going with this.
Same
Yeah, I absolutely do not have the space for something like a full-sized functional trainer, so I'm also hoping the Ares system is a good option
After the Ares reveal, what are your thoughts?
Been waiting for the Ares as well, but that price point doesn’t have my convinced.
@@amunra4256 After the Ares reveal, what are your thoughts?
Been waiting for the Ares as well, but that price point doesn’t have my convinced.
@@sonofashepherd6668 Yeah, I felt the same way. I had to move on to another option.
GGR team, when can we expect the video comparing the various functional trainers on the market?! I know Coop asked us to be patient but that was a full month ago! Do you have an ETA for that video? I don’t want to make a purchase before I watch that comparison video
great now titan is gonna jack the price up 20% like have done with the last few things you've reviewed of theirs, guess I should've bought one already
I would like to see you do a review on the Inspire FT1.
At this price point I’d probably consider the Powertec one. Same ratio, weight stack, but has the weight horns to add additional weight.
For me it came down to this or the Rep 5000. I decided on the titan. And I haven’t regretted that decision at all. The crate arrived in perfect condition. Everything inside was nicely wrapped. I have some assembly experience, so my son and I only spent about an hour putting it together. I use it every day for every muscle I do. Definitely one of the best home gym expenses that I’ve made!
I just purchased one and am wondering how long they took to ship it? Thanks in advance
@@ddew17 I want to say it only took a couple weeks or less. I was surprised how quick I got it!
@@GSmith228 Sweet, thanks for the reply!
Is this machine wide enough to get a good chest stretch?
My boy Coop's hairline goes back further than the yankees red sox rivalry
Really love my TItan Funcational trainer but I got in when it wasn't $2500. At $2500 it has alot more competition at that price point.
True, I was lucky enough to get a scratch and dent for 1850.
@@ShaneJ07 you da man!
At that price I‘d buy one right now.
Good review. Thank you
Love the videos!! Can you do a review on the titan plate loaded fly machine
Got the plate loaded FT from titan. Terrible to assemble but I’m very happy with the end product.
Great Great review. This one is also good for attaching a TRX and being able to do complex exercises like Reverse Incline Press.
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AsSAMbly Sam for the Win!
I got a used Tonal instead of a functional trainer- similar cost, functionality and much smaller footprint.
Thanks for the Scoop Coop but I swooped up the FTX for 1k with a bench at Costco and so far so smooth when I groove, I also made mine 200 per stack with a 20 buck pin
Been hoping to see this one! I’ve been eyeing this thing for weeks now, but afraid to pull the trigger. Just kept thinking “I wish Coop would review this”
You missed a part I was waiting for…. the measurements! My ceiling is 85” so I’m always checking the height of equipment so I’ll know if it will fit it or not!
Also curious about the width so I know if it’s good for crossover exercises or not.
also also, it would be great if you included if the gym pin for adding plate weights would work with this.
Look to Costco for the FTX Inspire Functional Trainer. It comes with a solid bench. FTX is very smooth and easy to assemble. Use silicone lube to keep it smooth.
The Rep FT5000 still wins in my book
Same, I have it and loved it so far
The cable handle height is way too low.
@@ChrisP3000x why do you say that? The handle can be raised as tall as the machine (or close to it). I’m not understanding what you mean.
@@meisdetermined They hang real low, especially in comparison to other FT's
We have the plate loaded version in our garage gym and it works pretty good. But yeah, loaded the plates is a pain in the ass
Love your work Coop + Sam - for someone low on space I wonder how the Force USA G3 or G6 weighs up having the half rack functionality along with functional trainer functionality...
Omg finally a review on this!
For handle storage, take the rubber cap off and they fit fine 😌
Hope the upcoming comparison mentions the used market. You can often buy the higher end models for similar prices as the Titan
Titan Fitness is getting greedy with their prices. Their tibia dorsi went up 60% over the last few months ($125 to $200). The lat pulldown went from $1149 to $1299 to $1499 (thanks to Coop who said it was worth $1500 back when it was $1149 or $1299) and now at $1699. Just not The same value now that it used to be to buy from them. What I really thought was crazy was their eccentric hook extensions that used to be like $38 are now $99. Oh and the plate loaded functional trainer went from $750 to $1000. (33% jump)
Edit: a good example is the Titan plate loaded lat extension for their 100” Titan Series. They want $1000+ for one upright, a couple rods, couple crossmembers, and some pulleys. And the only color option is black. No thank you!! Not when they have an entire plate loaded lat pulldown for $499 (currently on sale for $399). That is a SERIOUS up charge.
1. It's largely due to Covid. All companies are experiencing the same problem
2. Titan is trying to make higher quality products than before, more comparable to Rep. This means less cost-cutting
Titan is trying to move away from being the cheapest (lowest quality) option
@@amunra4256 I understand that the cargo ships sitting out in the ocean have had an impact on prices. And you are correct, Titan has improved their product line along with their packaging. The only problem is all of the items I listed have been unchanged. The lat pulldown is going to get the new textured upholstery this year but the current unit has been the exact same for the last 2 to 3 years.
@@meisdetermined my lat pulldown machine should be delivered in 3 days if it's as good as everyone that has it says then I think 1700 is good as long as they don't go up any more. I've seen a video from someone who ordered recently and they say the seat material is already changed.
@@johnnelwhite that’s good to hear! I hope it lives up to the recommendations. Maybe one day they will have another sale where they offer 10% off and then it would be an exceptional value. Fingers crossed!
@@johnnelwhite OK inquiring minds need to know lol. Does it have the upgraded upholstery? Also, did they correct the gap in the low row pulley system or is it still possible for the cable to come off of the pulley? Is the weight stack system amazing or just kind of amazing? :)
Where can I get that garage gym review hoodie?
Coming soon!
Space for a lot of us is limited, I do wish Coop talked a little more about how much space you need to dedicate to something like this to use it to it's full potential.
agreed. would like to see an equipment footprint and use footprint
@@JJ-to6qu Just go to Titan's website for full details of the equipment footprint.
@@AlbertFischer I know what you mean, but a piece like this you also have to account for the length of the pulleys for certain movements. As a reviewer Coop could show us the actual working footprint space that we would need to dedicate and which movements this could impact IMO.
@@joecowan3719 I agree. I've had the plate loaded version for about 2 weeks now and I'm still figuring out where I need to stand in the room for certain movements. I have extra long arms(36 inches) so I also need to figure out which pulley works best for each movement and also the height setting as well as how much chain I need from the pulley to the handle. I'm in a rather small space though and so far have had no problems. I wish you luck in figuring out your home gym. I've been at it for 37 years now.
Dammit, I’m not first
Hi Coop, hope you are well man
nice, i use Hoist Mi7, but has the same problem, it is too low. We wait for ROGUE LP-2 LAT PULLDOWN / LOW ROW Review
Ok, you have me sufficiently hyped for your next meta-review.
Also, poor Sam…
Lastly, one aspect I’ve been curious about re: pulley weight carriages is how some utilize guide rods and some have posts (I’ve seen either with both stacks or plate loaded.) Just wondering what the differences are. (Yes, I’m thinking of making my own.)
Oh, also, two stacks or one? Differences?
I like the Body-Solid GFT-100 since it can be had with a 310 lb. stack upgrade.
The long black accessory on the left of the video, the long bar, is a way to attach the 2 pulleys together. Bit of a miss in that part of your video.
I like those dumbbells
I would really love to see you do a Review on the inspire FT2 Functional trainer.
Gotta get that just for flies and curls. Am I right boys?
How did this take so long?! Let’s goooooo
Pull ups are the best for strength and conditioning. You can add weight with chains. You don't need a lat pull down/squat rack pull down for a basic home gym.
Thanks- who knew?
Only a small % of age 25+ can do a pullup, Sherlock.
I like functional trainers. Used to think they were a joke until I used one exclusively for a month at an extended stay hotel for business. Imagination truly was my only limiting factor. Squats, crossovers, curls, extensions, rows, pullups pretty much anything.
Me, too. I bought a no-brand functional trainer similar to the one reviewed here a couple of years ago, and I love it. I use it every day. The assembly was a bit difficult, and I made the same mistake Coop’s team did by reversing the two sides on my first attempt. Other than that, it’s been perfect.
Please do a review on new Titan nemesis please!
I think universally we all would prefer the weight stack model but for the money, the majority will go for the weight loaded option as its almost a third of the cost. Also, what i realized watching this was the lat pulldown option for most racks will do the majority of what the funtional trainer will do. For me, thats the better option. Plus, i already own it. So there's that.
@@ChrisP3000x For those of us who already have home gyms and this is just an addition to the home gym the additional cost of weight plates does not something we have to think about. But your point is valid, depending on who you're talking to
@@ChrisP3000x I thought I will be much more a headache than it turned out to be I have a plate loaded functional trainer sitting next to the squad rack not that much of an issue.
I own a plate loaded now and it doesn't really bother me I've used both. We're both stating what we like I'm saying I don't care which one We don't need to go any further
@@ChrisP3000x I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying I didn't want to pay three times as much as I paid for the one I got so I'm happy
Coop!!!
Do you have any recommendations for getting a deadlift bar? And if you have a video on this could you share it? Love the channel and thanks for sharing your knowledge of home gym life. It has been really nice to go to someone about this stuff!!!
3 minutes in and instant thumbs up just for the Sam jokes.
we need more Sam.
How have you guys not reviewed the Inspire yet? Possibly the best value FT in existence.
Can you review the strength shop cast iron plates. Please
Looks nice 👍🏻 , I use the rack lat tower and its good for me 👍🏻
Coop! Have you ever considered to have a sub channel on “Assembly” only? I mean, you go through tons of equipment that are quite popular and most of the time, these manufacturers have very poor quality instructions (including REPs videos on how tos!), wouldn’t this be a “win, win” for GGR team to have this specific videos uploaded here as well? Anyways…Just a thought and keep up the cool content!
Interesting idea. Just not sure how much interest there would be for it. It’s definitely a lengthy process.
What about the BodyKore Universal Trainer or the Dynamic Trainer?
How accurate is the 2:1?
If you hang a 45lb plate from one handle, with selector pin on 80, does the plate win?
Where can I find the video of the reviews of all the best functional trainer in one video?
you have passion for gym equipment which is nice to see it shows but not once have you ever mentioned a very reputable company that has been manufacturing equipment for over 42 years from montreal canada the company is called ATLANTIS STRENGTH by far they have the best functional trainer this company furnishes nba teams nhl teams basketball teams in the nba as well as 75% of bodybuilding gyms and oxygen gym in kuwait which is the best equipped gym in the world i can go in and on hopefully would like to see some atlantis equipment featured in your videos it’s always the same videos you seem to push rogue rep etc hope to see some higher quality equipment
Comparing this and other FTs with stuff life Inspire SCS and FT2 would be great