The Folk of The Air isn't great

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  • @ReadswithRachel
    @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +26

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    • @Darbster
      @Darbster Год назад

      I missed this last time, it would've been perfect for the recent Taylor Swift concert I went to lol

  • @leonisnoel
    @leonisnoel Год назад +474

    Jude never should have stayed in the land of the Folk. It was toxic that she kept allowing for people to belittle and harm her. All the side characters were more interesting than she was. She was like plain toast with an affinity to get burned.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +59

      Facts

    • @leonisnoel
      @leonisnoel Год назад +20

      @@whiteraven562adds “wings of ebony” to my TBR

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +35

      Wings of ebony is staring at me from my desk right now 👀

    • @sarahmrgn
      @sarahmrgn Год назад +12

      I can say in confidence that Jude is literally the most boring mc i’ve ever had to read about

  • @ivesphillips
    @ivesphillips Год назад +78

    Jude looking at someone like, 'Hey, man, these hands are rated E for everyone."

  • @miranda725
    @miranda725 Год назад +91

    I think the biggest issue for me was his like root reason he hated Jude and it was because he was jealous she had a dad or whatever.. a dad that killed her parents. So I’m like he’s.. jealous of that? I wish he had a better valid reason of hating her like her dad killing someone close to him and he’s angry idk. I felt like his hatred for her was not believable and kinda dumb.

  • @sarahmrgn
    @sarahmrgn Год назад +128

    I’m so glad you mentioned how a lot of Cardan’s “sweet” moments to Jude were only when he was drunk or poisoned… Like I just couldn’t get into them at all idk why so many people think they’re like the superior book couple lmao. Also the whole “bullying you(trying to drown you???) because I like you” thing is so juvenile and gross and they turned him from horrible to nice guy way too quickly

  • @cjtesterman4641
    @cjtesterman4641 Год назад +290

    What kills me is that there are reasons why most of the questionable things happen (why taryn is terrible, and some of cardans thought processes) but to get it you HAVE to read the novallas and I don’t want to have to read side books to get main plot points lol but i still love this series

    • @Abonti-hc6oc
      @Abonti-hc6oc 11 месяцев назад +7

      Trust me, you should read the last novella and know about cardan's backstory, plus it has a really fun bonus plot, i really loved it. No need to read lost sisters, Taryn is basically a bitch, that it.

    • @nitebreak
      @nitebreak 7 месяцев назад

      @@Abonti-hc6oci loved it, but i couldn’t sit through the novella of jude’s sister she makes me so mad

  • @alyxbarter3155
    @alyxbarter3155 Год назад +244

    PLEASE read Holly Black's Coldest Girl in Coldtown. It's a standalone and it's just a girl being absolutely unhinged in a dangerous magical place and making the dangerous magical people go "bro what the fuck" about it. Basically all the good parts of TFOTA slammed into a standalone.

    • @DawnPhenomenon
      @DawnPhenomenon Год назад +11

      I loved that book!

    • @ceilidhcarruthers6712
      @ceilidhcarruthers6712 Год назад +10

      I loved that book!! I think I've even re read it once or twice over the years. I was not a fan on Holly blacks fae oriented works (just not for me 🤷‍♀️) but I loved her other works

    • @sadieselby1567
      @sadieselby1567 Год назад

      P

    • @nitebreak
      @nitebreak 7 месяцев назад

      i’m gonna read it ty for the record

    • @annabeatrizzimmermann7708
      @annabeatrizzimmermann7708 6 месяцев назад

      that book it's like a fun wild silly ride. love if fr.

  • @missallegra7568
    @missallegra7568 Год назад +54

    "aw shit, people are gonna wanna marry me now, gross" mood man

  • @nyx8103
    @nyx8103 Год назад +36

    The Folk of the Air tries to be everything at once yet doesn't commit to anything in order to be the perfect cash grab escapism.
    I expected to be underwhelmed but ended up binging the entire trilogy and both novellas in less than a week. I gave all books 5 stars because they were sooooo addicting.
    The addicting part is the wasted potential and not the story itself though. I still love it but it's just frustrating since Holly Black could've created an amazing dualogy with this concept if she committed to the wickedness of fairyland resulting Jude to end up actually betrayed and permanently in the human world.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +17

      oh man... i think you're right. I think i wouldve been fine if it had just ended at book two. leaving her betrayed forever wouldve been hilarious.

  • @michellexbeauty9832
    @michellexbeauty9832 Год назад +177

    This is one of those series that is definitely not amazing but it was entertaining and something about it kept me reading and for some reason I can’t not love it lol

  • @penichilling
    @penichilling Год назад +65

    I haven’t read a book since 2021 and I was just rereading the Harry Potter series. I can’t remember the last time I’ve read a new book. This video made me go out and buy the Cruel Prince and I’m 270 pages in and it has brought my love for reading back after years. As dumb as it is, I’m eating it up. I missed that feeling and I missed reading. Thank you for making these videos.

  • @honeybea4845
    @honeybea4845 Год назад +172

    I'm definitely biased because while i didnt love the first and third books, the second one was great and by the end of the trilogy I'd gotten attached. BUT i have to say, i feel like the faeries in this are distinguished enough from humans (cardan has a tail lmao) that it's not entirely fair to judge them by human morals. Also, from the beginning, Jude talks (in her inner monolog) about how Madoc murdered her parents but also read her to sleep, raised her, and that she does love him but (in her words) it's a complicated kind of love. that is also how she feels about Elfhame/Faerieland and, eventually, Cardan.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +36

      I loved the second one too. I wish she would write something like that again.

  • @thornebrier
    @thornebrier Год назад +127

    So glad to hear somone else not like cruel prince. I remember reading it and being so mad at how shitty Carden is to Jude and that I'm expected to root for their romance when he has been nothing but abusive.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +62

      She should’ve probably just killed him in the end tbh

    • @miranda725
      @miranda725 Год назад +9

      @@ReadswithRachel yesss I love a good sacrificial death for the greater good ending trope tbh lol

    • @kittyhawke2701
      @kittyhawke2701 Год назад +22

      i'm sorry but the book is literally titled 'the cruel prince', if y'all didn't go into it expecting the prince to be cruel idk what to tell you lol

    • @thornebrier
      @thornebrier Год назад +48

      @@kittyhawke2701 there are ways to make Carden cruel and still have their romance be believable but as it is it’s just another story of excusing the abusive love interest and I’m also just tired of the oh he’s mean to you because he likes you. Let’s stop tell women and girls to put up with shitty behavior “because he likes you.”

    • @S0LAVELLANHELL
      @S0LAVELLANHELL Год назад +7

      people when enemies to lovers involves them being … enemies: 😡😡😡

  • @AnAwkwardBlue
    @AnAwkwardBlue Год назад +50

    I actually liked the trilogy(and the cameos from characters from other folk of air books were fun) but one thing I never really understood was Cardan and Jude’s romance. Like, I love a good enemies-to-lovers but I didn’t really understand how they got to the “lovers” part? Like there were so few times where they interacted where they genuinely seemed to both like and respect each other and when there were, they were few and far between.
    Idk, maybe the build-up went over my head, but I was really surprised that Jude was *that* concerned for Cardan when he turned into a snake.

  • @pinkbunny6272
    @pinkbunny6272 Год назад +35

    As a writer myself watching bad book reviews is an educational experience. It helps me avoid the lack of quality to my book attempt

  • @IvellScarlett
    @IvellScarlett Год назад +21

    I only read the first book. When I started "a cruel prince" I had no idea that it would be a bully romance, which is a huge ick for me.

  • @powerpuff4ever
    @powerpuff4ever Год назад +60

    SO MANY THINGS ANNOYED ME ABOUT THIS SERIES. I buddies read all three with a friend and she was loving it while I was just seething over it

  • @isawave9535
    @isawave9535 Год назад +17

    What stuck with me in the beginning wasn't the fish sticks but the microwave!! As soon as I read that I was like "oh a microwave??? This is urban fantasy???? Not reading it" eventually I listened to the audiobook while I was on holiday with my friends and kept reading the others with a friend that had already read the first one. I like the folklore around faerie so I liked it and I like how Holly Black can vividly write these little scenes that keep you interested even while you're waiting for things to happen (like Dulcamara in the tent with the ladies in the first book and Jude being dresses by the merfolk in the second one) but both my friend and I were disappointed by how tame Jude was in acting on her anger for someone who is the daughter of a general and proclaims she wants to be "so much worse" than those hurting her.
    (spelling edit)

  • @notapersonipromise_
    @notapersonipromise_ Год назад +94

    I recently read this series and I felt largely nothing, I kept wanting to read it in the middle of the book but always felt the endings were fumbled and boring. It was just frustrating getting invested only to be hugely let down at the ends

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +18

      I was seething by the end of book three Holly black really wasted my time

    • @yarp1246
      @yarp1246 Год назад +17

      @@ReadswithRachel It was wild seeing them prepare for a war only for it to end anticlimactically lol

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +15

      It’s like when you set up a bottle rocket and then nothing happens and you just stand there… waiting. For nothing.

    • @notapersonipromise_
      @notapersonipromise_ Год назад

      @@ReadswithRachel god that’s too true

  • @eriskalliste
    @eriskalliste Год назад +13

    24:27 CC transliterates Grima Mog as "screaming mom" and I'm dying.

  • @stressed_vivi
    @stressed_vivi 5 месяцев назад +5

    Giving wicked king 5 stars is so relatable I like it the most among the others
    Here is my personal rating
    Cruel prince 3/5
    Wicked king 4.5/5
    The queen of nothing 2/5

  • @andiman44
    @andiman44 Год назад +10

    I gave the whole trilogy two stars; I can see the appeal but I wanted a lot more from the characters, plot and the world.

  • @bruuh0_0
    @bruuh0_0 Год назад +28

    It finaly happened
    Rachel shitting on something that I love and while I am afraid to notice something that will make not like it anymore because of you I will watch it anyway 😌
    LOVE THE TARYN SLANDER

    • @katemacdonald3765
      @katemacdonald3765 Год назад +5

      I'm afraid to watch it too because I love TCP and I don't want to have Rachel ruin it for me by being right (I agree with everything else she says) buuuut it's my book she's recommending at the end, so...? XD

    • @bruuh0_0
      @bruuh0_0 Год назад +4

      @@katemacdonald3765 gonna print this cause damn it's not everyday an author answers your comment. I'm soo excited to read your book, I'm a sucker for fae worlds

    • @katemacdonald3765
      @katemacdonald3765 Год назад +3

      @@bruuh0_0 awesome! I hope you enjoy it. Not every day I see someone so excited to read!
      I've written a LOT of fae world books. Got another coming out in September which is basically if King Arthur, Holly Black and Miraculous Ladybug had a baby... XD

    • @bruuh0_0
      @bruuh0_0 Год назад +2

      @@katemacdonald3765 you had me at fae world, but damn the hold you got when you said miraculous ladybug. My poor friends can barely stand me as it is with the book obssessions and then you drop this. Looks like time to break my agreement to not buy books for a while
      ps. dear lord just went to check the price of the kindle version and you wrote SO MUCH STUFF, I'm screwed if I like Forest of Dreams and Whispers cause if I like one author's book I always buy the rest

  • @shhimreading906
    @shhimreading906 Год назад +16

    i hardly remember anything from book 1 besides the climax scene where they crown the lil kid and the scene where jude is like high on fairy food and gets naked.
    book two, omg i was literally LIVING for the entire book, the scene at the end where carden tells that sea princess whats what 😌chefs kiss.
    and book three i remember being okay with until the ending WHICH FELT SO RUSHED AND ANTICLIMACTIC I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED, i rly have never read anything so mediocre

  • @bubble2904
    @bubble2904 Год назад +12

    Oh my god I have the same reaction as you on first book ending! I couldnt put into words why I love the series but not at the same time. You put them into words for me and I relate 110%!

  • @kandibug5303
    @kandibug5303 Год назад +7

    The only really goodish fae based book that I really liked is the standalone YA/teen book is An Enchantment of Ravens where the fae are very weird and inhuman, which sometimes leads to cruelty due to not understanding humans are very mortal, need to eat actual food, and dislike being tormented to death. The main dude love interest is centuries old with a 17 year girl, but the book does an okay job of not making it feel icky and awful to read.

  • @roibenr
    @roibenr Год назад +9

    You: *summarizing*
    Me: *Wii Music* I legit have no idea what's going on no matter how many times I listen lmao

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +1

      I’m so sorry! 😭 I will try better next time

    • @roibenr
      @roibenr Год назад

      @@ReadswithRachel Haha, no! I think it's just me XD When there are too many names I just mind-blank. I just thought it was funny of like ".... omg I still have no idea what she's talking about"

  • @norahsatelier
    @norahsatelier Год назад +9

    The worst part is, all of her Endings Suck. Everytime i read a Book from Holly Black the beginnings are okay, the middle is the best and the ending ruins it. this series could have been so good because the world was a really great idea, even the scenario. I'm glad that i learned my lesson about her a long ago and only got the book borrowed from my local library

  • @JulianGreystoke
    @JulianGreystoke Год назад +77

    I was overhyped for book 1, found it really disappointing, and then never kept reading

    • @meiday154
      @meiday154 Год назад +20

      We lived the same life bc I finished the book said Okay and did not continue

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +13

      Fair

    • @shreeyamalgunde593
      @shreeyamalgunde593 4 месяца назад

      I read 50% of bk one and stopped

  • @kikivf4nr
    @kikivf4nr Год назад +9

    every time you said "lock" i was like oh yeah john locke from lost

    • @hannahbrennan2131
      @hannahbrennan2131 Год назад +3

      I thought of Locke Lamora from the Gentleman Bastards series.

    • @cur1ouscatf1sh
      @cur1ouscatf1sh Год назад +2

      @@hannahbrennan2131oh man, I love locke lamora. I live in constant agony waiting for a status update on Thorn of Emberlain :’)

    • @hannahbrennan2131
      @hannahbrennan2131 Год назад

      @@cur1ouscatf1sh Same. I really hope it actually gets finished.

  • @Kaz0o24
    @Kaz0o24 Год назад +9

    your makeup and shirt look so good together, love the makeup all around tho

  • @dietsoba
    @dietsoba Год назад +14

    It has been quite a while since I actually read it, but feel like my overall enjoyment and thoughts on the trilogy were absolutely related to my pre-existing attachment to Holly’s entire Faerie universe, which began when I was about 12 (and probably should not have been reading Tithe). If I remember correctly, the books, especially the third book(??) spent a lot of time placing the trilogy into an even larger game of faery politics she has established across multiple books and series that couldn’t possibly have been fully explained with so little time. On top of that, it did feel like a lot of it didn’t need to be there at all, even if you knew why she might have thrown it in. The significance of certain characters’ appearances and involvement was certainly lessened if you didn’t already know who they were. So much of the time spent on tie-ins with books and series that casual readers of the books might not even be aware of could have been better spent just focusing on the elaborate plot and huge cast of characters already present.

  • @meiday154
    @meiday154 Год назад +40

    I read the first book and had no interest of continuing. Even with all the death and betrayals in the end i was like "oh okay" and moved on so props to you for finishing the series

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +12

      What’s wild is the last book had no death??? Like WHY? Absolutely mediocre

  • @yasminnn8
    @yasminnn8 Год назад +34

    I hate bully romances but I loved The Cruel Prince for some reason. I think it had to do with the fact that most if not all the fae were horrible and it was in their nature (I think?). If a human were to behave the way they did I'd be livid. In the end, the character I ended up hating the most was Taryn 🤣 The second book was also fun but I was really disappointed in the third one.
    Thank you for making the video. I had fun watching. And thank you for the book recommendation!

    • @nitebreak
      @nitebreak 7 месяцев назад +1

      same, taryn makes me so mad. Also i loved the whole series and i read it twice.

    • @yasminnn8
      @yasminnn8 7 месяцев назад

      @@nitebreak yeah I think this series is very re-readable! Especially on audio. It's so much fun to listen to

  • @Callmekatielee
    @Callmekatielee Год назад +10

    Here for the Shots by Sophia appreciation, she is so goddamned talented. Love her page!

  • @invadernav3422
    @invadernav3422 Год назад +11

    This is always one of those books I know is super popular amongst people but I've never had the interest in reading. And somehow I've never heard someone describe what it's about or why they like it? Which always struck me as strange.

  • @Wickendale
    @Wickendale Год назад +7

    Forest of Dreams and Whispers is the best! Highly recommend it and every single one of Katherine Macdonald's other books too tbh

  • @fictionalneritive
    @fictionalneritive Год назад +3

    I love the end of cruel prince and the entirety of wicked King, but holly black lost me with the queen of nothing. It's the worst one. And he was like "you could have come back whenever." But Jude already thought of a way he could deny her. It was dumb. Worst book in the trilogy. The mean girl reference is meme-able, but doesn't fix the book.

  • @heyimsasa
    @heyimsasa Год назад +3

    omg i'm glad i banned holly black from my personal shelves lmao 🤣 after the mess that was 'tithe' and her messy livejournal saga with cassie claire, i swore her off. never again.

  • @dreamchaser003
    @dreamchaser003 Год назад +7

    Loved the sandwich analogy 😂

  • @OroHoneyLemon
    @OroHoneyLemon Год назад +9

    I read the first book when it came out (while I was still in my major fantasy phase) and I was so, so bored. By the end I was just angry. But while I was reading it, I kept thinking that the book wasn't written for people who have no idea about any fae/fairy terminology and at some point I got fed up with trying to google all the terms I didn't understand. I hated Jude, she was so insanely boring, I found that she is just good at everything, seemingly without even REALLY trying (again, I read this years ago, but that's what I remember thinking). It all just seemed to work out for her. She was the best at everything, a jack of all trades and master of all vibe. I didn't even bother reading the synopsis for the second when that came out.

  • @Kaiheart
    @Kaiheart Год назад +5

    I read the Cruel Prince series on the recommendation of a friend, and I wish I could have loved it... it disappointed me. However, I found the stand-alone stealth spin off Darkest Part of the Forest really good though, so I fully agree if CP was a single book it could've been great. Holly just needed to condense and streamline, cut out the crap that leads to nowhere- which is a lot.

  • @MrGreyseptember
    @MrGreyseptember Год назад +3

    I've never read The Cruel Prince, but when I listened to your description, it reminded me of Prince of the Sorrows by Kellen Graves. It's dark and emotional (and gay) and made me cry several times.

  • @GibbyandKieran
    @GibbyandKieran Год назад +11

    Don't wanna be one of those "you just don't get it" girls so let's just say I had different interpretations of a lot of this lol. I grew up on holly black's takes on fae things though, so I knew what she was doing with the culture/vibe. I reread them just last month actually and the romance was mostly a comedy to me. The last book reminded me of folk tales like Janet and Tam Lin, which is my favorite tale

  • @AramiHeartilly
    @AramiHeartilly Год назад +13

    I also Loved the second book so much. The third one didn’t live up to it and the first was was…fine.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +10

      The third one was so stupid and a waste of my time. Holly owes us for that.

    • @AramiHeartilly
      @AramiHeartilly Год назад +4

      Yes! Such a let down. I remember some of my friends being devastated at the end of book 2 and I couldn’t understand it. I thought it was great.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +3

      @@AramiHeartillyit was hilarious and I remember it fondly

  • @mikailagray
    @mikailagray Год назад +6

    I liked her Tithe series when I was a high schooler. Makes me want to re-read them.

  • @deniseperez7007
    @deniseperez7007 6 месяцев назад +1

    I got into this series with low expectations and I ended up loving them. These books took me out of my reading slump of years! My two main concerns with them are mainly the following:
    1. While I enjoyed the third book it felt incomplete like it needed more pages.
    2. Love Jude and Cardan dynamics I lot of people argue that is a bully to romance but I disagree. However I feel like the transition from enemies to lovers could have been better.

  • @va1kyrieshade979
    @va1kyrieshade979 Год назад +3

    I'm really learning that book 2 colored my perspective of 1 & 3 in ways I did not even realize. Truly the best one in the series

  • @ascontralto
    @ascontralto Год назад +6

    so I haven't read very many books in the past like, decade, and I had no idea where to start to break back into the fantasy meta, so I ended up going by general chatter and started with ACOTAR and 1/2 of ACOMAF (the dinner table introductions are *excruciatingly* long on audiobook, and I got bored with the fetch quests), which paved my expectations exactly where they needed to be to have fun reading Cruel Prince right after lmfao. going from one book with a red-haired fox themed secondary man character who was my sassy third wheel fav, to the next where the red-haired fox themed secondary man character was teased as a love triangle option, only to turn out to be ACTUALLY THE WORST ONE? absolutely delightful one-two punch, took great satisfaction in his ending.
    I do have my complaints, but the stuff that was great was more than enough to keep me sticking through it. I thought the bullysquad characterization in the very beginning was weak (it came off like, kinda silly teen movie drama before the Actual Attempted Murder kicked in lol), and I wish the ending was a bit more complicated (we KNOW what her decision was going to be, so it was kind of boring just waiting for it through the last chapter, and also there was a huge missed opportunity for a proper Lindworm skin shedding fairy tale reference instead of just a head lop, but that's just what I wanted 😂).
    my personal biggest crit is with how much time Jude and Carden spent apart in book 3, it really killed the believability of then overcoming that last hate to love emotional hurdle to me? like, Jude getting mer-napped and coming back to Carden, who had clearly gone though a whole emotional journey OFF SCREEN that she was still a bit too in denial to clock, was disappointing and a little annoying? it solved all the fun hate-tension from his side, so all that was left was for Jude to catch on and finally reciprocate. which, she had pretty good character reasons to not be quick on that draw, but the one-sided tension felt like an early deflation after how good it had been up to that point.
    overall I'd probably give it like a 4, if for no other reason it was solid and enjoyable enough to get me to finish the series lol (I'm terrible at follow through)

    • @emmalijewski8302
      @emmalijewski8302 Год назад

      I'm glad I'm not only one who read ACOTAR and ACOMAF before reading this series and being so disappointed by the political stuff that the bar was low so I enjoyed this series. Also I agree that dinner scene where everyone is introduced is annoying to get through but I was reading it and not listening to it.

  • @phenix4070
    @phenix4070 Год назад +6

    i really appreciate this video, as someone who felt like they were one of the only ones that this series didn’t completely work for me lol

  • @crookedcrows4941
    @crookedcrows4941 Год назад +4

    i was so exited to read it and ended up being disappointed. there are still some parts that I liked and I would agree the second was the best.
    edit: I went in blind cardan wasa so cruel that I actually didn't think he was the love interest I was shocked when they kissed

  • @dromaeo-sauridae
    @dromaeo-sauridae 9 месяцев назад +1

    13:20 maybe i heard it wrong, but the spies being named roach and ghost is either a really wild reference or a crazy coincidence

  • @storm.loves.reading
    @storm.loves.reading Год назад +7

    i read the first book and felt mightily disappointed. even after giving it a second chance, i still thought it was really bad. i have no desire to finish the other books.

  • @thxwanderer
    @thxwanderer Год назад +3

    I didn't want to invest money so I checked out the first book from the library. I was so frustrated reading this that I tossed the book into the back of the car and left it there. I read it until the end and then returned it to the library, largely unimpressed and largely disappointed lmfao. Will I ever finish the series? No, I'm good. I'll just take everyone else's word on how they feel about it and go with that.

  • @hikamiDjazz
    @hikamiDjazz Год назад +11

    A books I certainly liked more was Forest of Dreams and Whispers by Katherine MacDonald. It has a similar initial I-love-you-but-hate-that chemistry and banter (definitely more banter) but without the toxicity of their relationship. Plus it's basically a standalone.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +4

      yep i actually talk about that book at the end of the video!

  • @kc_lee_ann
    @kc_lee_ann Год назад +9

    Okay we are on the same page on this one! I could barely finish the cruel prince and I own the other two books but I cannot bring myself to finish and I’m a completionist at heart. Finding out she’s a Cassie Claire friend

    • @kc_lee_ann
      @kc_lee_ann Год назад +3

      Like the last bits and twists were good but I couldn’t deal with their relationship

  • @curtisdavenport2308
    @curtisdavenport2308 Год назад +8

    Never been interested in this series cause it was overhyped. Normally overhyped books--especially when all the reviewers talk about is just the main romance (and nothing else) makes me NOT want to read it.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +3

      The middle book was so fun with the politicking but it’s not worth reading just for the middle book. I’d skip it.

  • @valerielmfao4818
    @valerielmfao4818 Год назад +3

    28:35 no because this NEEDS an audiobook version

  • @jaymecarrico9219
    @jaymecarrico9219 Год назад +19

    I really liked The Stolen Heir, the first of a duology that follows a grown-up Oak and Suren (the little girl with the bridle from the Court of Teeth). I felt like Holly took everything that worked about the Carden/Jude trilogy and made and it better. 2nd book doesn’t come out till March of next year though 😢

    • @Moonart7758
      @Moonart7758 Год назад +2

      Was it worth reading now tho? Or maybe i should wait for the series to be completed? I am quite hesitant about this, and i want the series to come out before reading them. 😭
      I’m just so attached to the first series that I’m scared to begin that new one.

  • @YasminBook1
    @YasminBook1 Год назад +18

    I literally just started this and have so many questions! I figured the protagonist is going to end up with Carden (the bully). Why?! I’m halfway through and I can’t wait to hear your thoughts.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +16

      The bullying is so over the top a part of me kinda wished she killed him at the end of queen of nothing for it like “ha, that’s for making me kiss your shoe”

  • @jerricatisdale1296
    @jerricatisdale1296 Год назад +8

    I loved this trilogy, read it recently and the first book in the sequel series, but all valid points in your review. Will read the book you recommended, so thanks for that! It sounds good.

  • @Yeni.Akinlotan
    @Yeni.Akinlotan Год назад +2

    Every time I watch a video about a series I don't know with a crap ton of characters, I feel like there should be some kind of family tree connecting everyone who is necessary to the plot

  • @S.M.Owens_
    @S.M.Owens_ Год назад +17

    This book was soo bad, i tried to force myself to read it TWICE because of all the hype and couldn’t get past the moment where she finds the acorn because it made the rest of the story so obvious - acorns come from OAK trees and it was just sooooooooo easy to figure everything out from there. You knew the message was about her brother and it wasn’t hard to guess why that would be important to the plot. I mean, I really wasn’t enjoying the book at all before that point but when that happened I just couldn’t anymore. Like she couldn’t have chosen a more subtle clue?

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +8

      That went right over my head oh my god, I am the biggest idiot

    • @S.M.Owens_
      @S.M.Owens_ Год назад

      @@ReadswithRachel don’t worry, I only caught it the second time I tried to read it. I’m kinda fan girling over the fact I just blew your mind a little bit though ;)

  • @Ektambo
    @Ektambo Год назад +6

    This video is making me want to read book 2 as a standalone with absolutely no context 🤣

  • @CatsandDragons7
    @CatsandDragons7 Год назад +2

    I was going back and forth on whether or not I wanted to read these and you’ve helped my decision for sure. These books sound like an absolute blast of the same tier as ACOTAR, so I will be adding them to my TBR

  • @Ludopeta
    @Ludopeta Год назад +14

    I have so much love for this series and 90% of it comes from the end of The Cruel Prince and the whole The Wicked King (we don't talk about queen of nothing)

  • @spookyfirst9514
    @spookyfirst9514 Год назад +2

    4:38 I'm all for eating sandwich innards like a little chaos goblin. (Eat it like a chaos goblin!--great t-shirt idea.)

  • @bookishgia
    @bookishgia Год назад +3

    Honestly I just love letting you spoil things for me, even if it's books on my TBR. I've only read TCP and I keep putting the other two books off because I'm SOOO wary of books I see floating around booktwt, booktok, etc. and always put them off because I'm afraid to be disappointed.

  • @IFarore
    @IFarore Год назад +3

    Love your eye makeup and takes!

  • @addyjoy3
    @addyjoy3 6 месяцев назад +1

    I loved the series tbh but the end of book 2 made me laugh as well because that loophole was SO OBVIOUS, then the start of book 3 pissed me off SO BAD when she didn't get it, I spent the whole book going "YOU IDIOT, USE THE LOOPHOLE"
    I actually, personally, would have liked it if Cardan had actually died at the end, it would have fit pretty well with the rest of the story.
    If Holly Black really wanted him to live, I feel like there were different ways she could have gone with it, though I'm happy enough with the way she did
    (To be clear: I do ship them but I like it when characters die lol)

  • @RRaeta
    @RRaeta Год назад +2

    I haven't read The Cruel Prince, but I honestly can't recommend A Forest of Dreams and Whispers enough. It's one of my favorite's of Macdonald's!

  • @nicolegriggs538
    @nicolegriggs538 Год назад +2

    The reason the folk of air was made into a Trilogy is probably good ol fashun money grubbin

  • @klap7161
    @klap7161 3 месяца назад

    Dain didn’t find out that she killed the prince’s friend, she harmed him and punished her for that by making her stab her own hand. She killed him after.

  • @nenegrey2282
    @nenegrey2282 Год назад +7

    Started reading the first book, was bored, switched to audio, HUGE mistake: the narrator is as apathetic as Jude read 🙈
    I'm also laughing at the faerie bullies. iirc Cardan tears off the wings of a faerie, but when it comes to Jude he and his clique... kick dirt into her food? Pull her hair? Classic bullying for human standards, but these are magical, immortal beings that have been living for hundreds of years. They are all so childish.
    The same gose for prince Dain. He chooses a human teenager to spy for him???? What???? I'm glad he didn't become king, he would've made a terrible job. Clues have to literally fall into Jude's pockets for something to happen 🤦🏾‍♀️
    The most interesting thing was the relationship between Jude and Madoc... pity it wasn't explored. The only thing she thinks is "I love him like a father but it's so wrong" over and over and that's it until he turns into the main antagonist.
    Jude in book 3 loses every ounce of brain she had in book 1 (which weren't many ounces to begin with) 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +3

      It was so boring until the end when everyone was getting stabby lmao

  • @gabz49242
    @gabz49242 Год назад +2

    So, I'm always interested in hit pieces about overhyped books since I rarely read based on what everyone is talking about, but girl, Booktok is going to come after you between this and Fourth Wing XD

  • @Milovatsi
    @Milovatsi Год назад +22

    I loved these books, I need to re-read them ❤ Jude is a badass 🗡💫
    And your makeup is gorgeous!

  • @trxgician
    @trxgician Год назад +1

    i recently read the first book and felt like i was going crazy so many times because i just did not get the hype AT ALL. seriously multiple times i had to turn off my kindle and check the physical book to make sure i wasn’t missing any parts because it felt so … lackluster? it felt like i was missing a whole book in between and we were just skipping from scene to scene. this was the first series i actually didn’t continue reading, after the first book i had no intention of even thinking about the rest of them. however when you said some people “turn their brains off” and read it really started to make sense to me bc that’s honestly the only way i can see people actually loving it so much lol

  • @carrierogers874
    @carrierogers874 Год назад +2

    I had a bit of FOMO after finishing the first book. After listening to your review, I feel better about moving on to other books on my TBR list. Thank you!

  • @user-fs6fk9vm2g
    @user-fs6fk9vm2g Год назад +3

    Yay! Just in time for my shift I can listen thank you !!

  • @_mermaidguts
    @_mermaidguts Год назад +8

    I had a realization a few months ago that I have to stop reading her books just because of nostalgia. She was my favorite author since age twelve (I'm thirty two now) and that was the only reason I supported her for so long. I read the whole trilogy because my best friend loved it - I even went to a couple of signings with her for these books (we also live in MA) but I just felt absolutely nothing throughout (and felt guilty about it... ). The same way I felt nothing reading The Iron Trials. I haven't truly enjoyed her work since The Darkest Part of the Forest. It was hard but necessary decision to move on.

  • @Cakelynn6
    @Cakelynn6 Год назад +1

    I’ve had Cruel Prince sitting in my kindle library for months and haven’t brought myself to start it - excited to check out your recommendation instead. That’s what I want, a one and done fantasy book. Thanks for the rec!

  • @AButifulNerdyNightmare
    @AButifulNerdyNightmare Год назад +1

    I haven't even watched this video yet and i already love it. I feel the same way.

  • @cheseliz
    @cheseliz Год назад +2

    I love Forest of Dreams and Whispers!

  • @poincianab12
    @poincianab12 Год назад +4

    Love your makeup!! 🖤💚

  • @meganleader1140
    @meganleader1140 10 месяцев назад +1

    THANK YOU! SOMEONE WHO AGREES IT'S NOT THE BEST! This book made me so mad and the romance itself... Wow. Not great. I love fae lore, but this one wasn't my cup of tea. A lot of fae books aren't. But I am so glad you recommended Katherine MacDonald's book! Now THAT is my cup of tea, and I cannot stop thinking about it after reading it. Hooked onto that book now.

  • @ermkayyy
    @ermkayyy 2 месяца назад

    my biggest issue with this series was, first of all, that it was MARKETED AS A ROMANCE?!?! which it is NOT. i also was annoyed that she wanted to stay in the fairy land or whatever they called it because everyone was sooooo mean and hateful to her? i could barely focus on any of the storyline because i couldn't even believe that she wanted to stay

  • @souei9289
    @souei9289 Год назад +1

    I tried reading this for the first time this year, couldn’t get past the first book. I didn’t care for Jude as a character.

  • @sennnia
    @sennnia Год назад +2

    Tbh, in order to love Holly Black, you have to love Holly Black. Meaning, I've been watching her write variations of these characters since I was 12 and got my hands on Tithe. Despite usually being really critical of books, I can love and accept the flaws of a Black book. I dont think she always does it well, but I personally think her characters are fairly nuanced. But again, I've been indoctrinated at an early age. Lol
    Also. Read Coldest Girl in Cold Town. Its, imo, the best of her books but no one talks about it.

  • @mahoganycoleman1010
    @mahoganycoleman1010 Год назад +4

    I have been waiting for you to review holly black! I’m so curious can’t wait to watch!

  • @202cardline
    @202cardline Месяц назад

    My two cent bias: I love stories that flip between the magical world and the real world, Inkheart and Inkspell are some of my favorite books of all time. But when you name drop Converse, JcPenny and Apple I’m smacked in the head with the fact I need to take my iPad in to get fixed next week. And the “black and mint polka dot underwear” is going to haunt me. It still haunts me. This is perhaps too much information, and makes me think of 2012 a little too viscerally. It’s more real than the fantasy world the author has slaved over. I hate it.

  • @acidicsucrose
    @acidicsucrose 11 месяцев назад

    Girl, you and me both. When I first *attempted* to read the cruel prince, the only thing I remembered about the beginning is that Jude was eating fish sticks she made in the microwave, and that she had heart shaped lips. Like, seriously, Holly Black. Of all the unimportant things to tell us...

  • @kilian-one-l
    @kilian-one-l Год назад +1

    This series was on my list to read solely because I really love The Coldest Girl in Coldtown, but this doesn't sound like my kind of thing at all tbh

  • @BookishRaider
    @BookishRaider Год назад +1

    The only book from Holly Black that I had read was Book Of Night. I think that it's going to be a Duology, but absolutely no worries to read it now since I know that you have so many commissions to read, but I personally enjoyed it.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +1

      I’m very interested in it!

    • @BookishRaider
      @BookishRaider Год назад

      @@ReadswithRachel I feel like it's more of a New Adult than an Adult book, but I feel like things might potentially change when the sequel comes out which wouldn't surprise me at all.

  • @symonewest5449
    @symonewest5449 8 месяцев назад

    I found the scene in which Jude and Cardan make out for the first time to be dubious consent at best and I didn't really appreciate how it was framed.

  • @wildrodrev
    @wildrodrev Год назад +1

    i remember thinking this would be a dark romance when I read the first book. (I saw it on tik tok and it's how I learned never to trust booktok's opinions lol) But it was like....more of a childhood bully who kicks your sand castle over?? Carden bored me honestly. I thought he was meant to be actually scary. It was all so promising and I expected some kind of messed up story but it fell short imo of what it promised. He wasn't interesting, he wasn't complicated and nuanced enough to make anything that he did interesting either. I didn't buy his love for her nor his cruelty.
    The side characters were more interesting but not even by much? I read the entire first book, waiting for the punch, waiting for the oomph of the story because SO many people love the series and I was left disappointed. It felt juvenile and unfinished.
    But in the books defense, YA is so hard to write dark romance for. Even the dark romance I've read for older audiences tend to miss the mark for me (I'm trying to read Haunting Adeline rn and I just CAN'T I CAN'T DO ITTTTT). I don't know if I'm just extremely picky or if the book is just out of my age range now. There were cool ideas and I liked the premise of the story, but it just didn't do it for me. I want the decay of morals for the mc and the death spiral of mutual obsession, I guess. Still trying to figure out what I'm looking for. Possibly something more akin to Hannigram.

  • @jio5680
    @jio5680 10 месяцев назад

    Honestly the way you described book 2 was so fun, and I just DNFed book 1 in the middle cause I was bored to death lol

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 Год назад +3

    Surprisingly I liked the first book but didn't enjoy the third book the second book was nice

  • @bealoverchooselovegivelove
    @bealoverchooselovegivelove Год назад +3

    I needed a new video. Thank you 😅

  • @zalvinoshippiehouse
    @zalvinoshippiehouse Год назад +1

    I highly recommend "The Bone Witch" series by Rin Chupeco. It's really good in audiobook form.

    • @ReadswithRachel
      @ReadswithRachel  Год назад +1

      I’ve actually read this one! It was a few years ago, but I remember it was very unique

    • @zalvinoshippiehouse
      @zalvinoshippiehouse Год назад +1

      @ReadswithRachel I like listening to it every so often. Most recently, I've been listening to it while doing my crafting. My husband, however, hates it lol

    • @zalvinoshippiehouse
      @zalvinoshippiehouse Год назад

      Side note: I have the series in audiobook form (that's the only way I can "read" anymore) and I can't remember if I liked it or nit. I -do- know there were a lot of eye roll moments...

  • @antoarzamendia
    @antoarzamendia Год назад +10

    I was overhyped about these books for a while but then lost all interest in reading them after finding out the author ''approved' Cassandra Clare's incest fanfic about the Weasley siblings lmao