I'm sick of affluent western hipsters with messiah complexes going around telling poor nations (like DR) how they should live. No one at Vice has to live with the consequences either way.
The reason why haitians, pro haitians, and afro centrics, call dominicans and the Dominican republic and their anti haitian views "racist" is because the only way they can win this argument and conflict is by making it a "racial issue". What alot of people fail to understand is that the Dominican republic fought hard against haiti to gain it's independence on February 27th 1844. Even after that independence the haitians tried multiple times to invade the Dominican republic once again to take over the whole island. The haitian and dominican issue is not a racial one but a "CULTURE" and "NATIONALITY" issue. The haitians were enslaved by the french and oppressed by their own haitian government but yet haitians only seem to point fingers to dominicans and the Dominican republic. The Dominican republic is a poor country that shares an island with haiti which is also a poor country itself. Even though haitians live in extreme poverty haitian women give birth to 3, 4, 5, children. Limited resources in haiti due to OVER BREEDING by haitian women causes a massive migration of pregnant haitian women to cross the border into the Dominican Republic. Dominican hospitals are full of pregnant haitian women to the point where they don't have any room or beds for Dominican citizens. Once these pregnant women with kids get to the dominican republic they expect the Dominican government to give them and their children the Dominican nationality. The haitian government itself doesn't even document it's own people but yet haitians expect the Dominican republic to do something for them that their own haitian government doesn't do! Basically they are blaming the Dominican republic because of what the haitian government has created them selves and that is a population of STATELESS PEOPLE. The Dominican republic is not a big and rich country like CANADA or The United states to be holding such a massive influx of haitian immigrants. Poor dominicans see themselves being displaced from jobs by haitians due to cheap labor that greedy bussiness owners love.
YoDanyrd D Thank you for saving me some key strokes lol. Nailed. They always use the RACE card to get away with shit. The Dominican Republic doesn't bend over to the Politically correct America.
yodanyrd Well, dude i would never claim a latino; An Afro centric can cleary make the distinction between someone who is mixed, latino and clearly of african descent. Most dominicans are mixed , won't you agree? Afrocentrics, at least the ones i know, only claims those who look like them. And if you're a full blooded latino or even mixed; Then i apologize for my previous comment.
Alright thats good. Oky bro, first of all, Latino is no a race, most Latinos are actually mixes. Yes most Dominican r mixes like Ricans, Cubans and the rest of Latinos. Well, i have debate with many afrocentric and they usually wanna claim us and i always put them back in their place. Its fine bro, apologies accepted.
yodanyrd It hard to find logical anwser about this kind of topics, many people always used the argument that just because they're poor you MUST help them regardless of the situation of the other states, so that I must say to exposed very strong argument and i like it
In Punta Cana, 85% of the population is Haitian. It is basically a Haitian city. It is easy to understand why Dominicans are fed up and the government had to act. No one should be a minority in their own country.
@@rebelrblack did you know that the whole island is HAITI. 🤯 And that all this fighting is nothing but BS made up by you know who. Everyone on that island is Haitian. Dessaline declared it so and as our first and great Emperor his word is law. Period.
@pepe0801 "even Haitians dont want haitian women" stop lying and spreading propaganda on the internet, that's some bullshit and it stinks through my computer. Just go be with whatever you chose and stop bad mouth Caribbean women just because we wont date you. I've yet to meet a Haitian men that dont swear by their Haitian women love, sorry boo you need to spread that lie elsewhere.
@pepe0801i am happy that you are not black and hate is on your Dna .by the way i am from the south of sweden .dont assume that iam haitian because i am black .if you see my girl she is white but she is african .
How could someone who was born in haiti be stateless. I can understand someone who was born in the DR that had their DR citizenship revoked being stateless, but if you were born in Haiti this ruling does not invalidate their Haitian citizenship. They CAN go back to Haiti, at least legally speaking.
They never had nationality, just because you where born somewhere doesnt means your from that country not every country uses juis solis principle, if you are born in denmark of foreing fathers your not from denmark so you can ask them to that questions but you desire so much to be dominicans and not haitians, we strong and rich now you on the other side are poor and weak and still pulling the feel sorry for me card after 200 years... haitian diaspora they dont even want to go there no more, they dont invest in their country never , they rather live in usa in peace, no haitian american is going to risk his capital or life in haiti they rather invest or retire in dominican republic they have their investment secure with clean title of property, in haiti you cant get bothing the goverment is so corrupt it doesnt even work, when trump said haiti was a shit hole nobody said nothing but ok....
1:36 "This woman Was born in Tomasic, Haiti (show documentation in hands like the others), but they cant go back to the country they say... so they are stateless practically"....WTF! Of course not, they are haitians!
Dont say that when you dont know the battles that goes on their every day. Please please don't speak on if if all your information comes from places like this. Thank you and love 🇭🇹🖤
A nation that can barely swim can not save a nation drowning it takes an international intervention to do that. Get your governments involved to help Haiti Now!
@@savvlogs8007no your country is in Senegal threw out Congo’s you are descendants of them stop clinging on to another country like a leach and return to your country
I love the way how these foreign agencies decide who is Dominican and who is Haitian. They are all Haitians with a heavy creol accent and yet they call them Dominicans,.. Never mind the laws of both Countries.. its whatever any non profit group say... To be Dominicans your parents have to be Dominicans or LEGAL residents.. Most are illegals or children of Contract workers, and according to the treaties their children are NOT DOMINICANS ..
Ok but when you have a child in the US he or she is American I’m Dominican born in USA if this took effect here we all be crying shit wolf it’s easy to say till things turn on u I will never be colonized by a European mind complex I’m keep utilizing my resources to edify my brown black ppl no matter where they from ‼️
Bill Gates there is only a handful of countries that have that law of birth right. Every country is entitled to their own laws. Don’t like it? Get out.
VICE News was at the Santo Domingo Ministry of the Interior on what was the final day for thousands of Dominican Haitians to apply for citizenship, and avoid deportation. Watch VICE News’ Raw Coverage from the Dominican Republic - bit.ly/1IRDxLf
***** So the moment they were born in Dominican Republic, these people were illegal? Illegal what? Illegal non-immigrants? Illegal natives? How did they manage to spend their whole lives there, get educated and employed, and work maybe for longer than you live?
***** What you don't understand is that bona fide democracies can't just change a law retroactively. The Dominican laws until 2004 clearly stated that Dominican citizenship was given to anyone on Dominican soil, except for children of diplomats and those "in transit" (meaning a period of less than ten days). These were people who for their entire lives were Dominican and suddenly had their citizenship taken due to shady, at best, legal practices. The problem arises from the un-democratic nature of the process and the lack of place for retroactive measures in bona fide democracies.
VICE News the U.S infiltrated Haiti back when the earthquake happened. they put their own government like in Ukraine and now the people of Haiti don't want to live there no more. thanks for the destruction all over the world U.S and george bush
Why dont they make a documentary about the Dominicans getting deported from USA, Spain, Puerto Rico, Chile? You dont hear Dominicans making such a scene, they just go back home
They aren't stateless, according to Haitian's constitution every citizen born or descendant of Haitians is automatically a Haitian, the problem is this people ( which if you listen closely have Haitian accent) are claiming for Dominican Nationality because the economical conditions are exponencially better in DR than in Haiti, they won't come back, cuz it's worst. So it's within Haitian authorities to improve the infrastructure to provide a better contry and stop the huge mass corruption there.
bittercottoncandy Before that was to happen the Native Indians and the African Americans should use that line, let alone the Mexicans. USA is a 100% immigrant country. NOT the same.
bittercottoncandy Simple, in a home where two can eat, you cant invite 4. DR is very Poor country, we CAN'T take care of Haiti, they need to grow the fuck up and move on like we're trying to do. Got it? if you're so eager to help the needy, please grab a few Haitians and give them Asylum, "God" will appreciate your help.
Judith Vasquez you are a very smart woman. that's exactly what's going on and DR knows that Haitians will be paid off by Haiti/U.S puppet government to infiltrate their country. salute Queen
bittercottoncandy Simple, If every Dominican living in the US would go back to D.R the economy would have a huge BOOST. The country would be better than ever before. You would have allot of successful Dominican Entrepreneurs who would bring their great ideas into the country and everyone would come together to make it a better place to live. :)
More than 90% of Haitians and their descendants in the DR arrived in the late 1980s onwards and did so on their own. Also, the Supreme Court only has clarification capabilities, not retroactive. The only thing the court did with clear up once again what every Dominican constitution since 1929 has said, that those born to people in transit (term that include illegal immigrants) are not entitled to Dominican citizenship, but rather to the citizenship of their parents. Also, any identity documents adquired fraudulently are void. Most of those Haitians that thought had Dominican citizenship in reality they never had it because they didn't qualify. What the Constitution Tribunal ordered was to put an end to the confusion by revising the Civil Registry from 1929 to 2007 for all the people registered illegally. Then, once they are identified, the legal status of the generation that migrated illegally or with a temp permit and stayed illegally, will be legalized and their descendants, due to the absoption clause in the law, will automatically receive a legitimate Dominican citizenship. Those that qualify for this amounts to some 26,000 people from over 100 nationalities, but of those some 14,000 are Haitian. A grace period will be given for those identified inthe Civil Registry to start their regularization process. Those that don't start the process (and those that are not in the Civil Registry) once the grace period is over, will be subject to deportation. The court ruling is actually legitimately dominicanizing those Haitians with fraudulent documents and many decades in the DR. The anti-Dominican campaign that has been spread internationally and based on misinformation, exaggerated numbers, and and outright lies is just that, an attempt at discrediting the Dominican government. The UN and the European Union already looked into the process and due to that, became aware all the lies many NGOs and the Haitian diplomats have been spreading around the world in an attempt to discredit the DR. The UN and the EU now support the Dominican regularization process. Such a shame so many people have been dooped in this and are reacting based on half truth and incorrect assumptions. In anycase, all rulings from the Supreme Court and the Constitutional Tribunal are not reversible, they are fi al and can't be appealed.
DR just like 162 countries out of 194 countries of the world do not give automatic citizenship to those born there. DR is Jus Sanguini, in otherwords you have to have at least 1 Dominican parent to be considered Dominican and for citizenship. If your parents are illegal immigrants and their kid is born in DR, that kid isn't a citizen because he was born in transit, in other words the baby is illegal as well. This law has been our law since 1929. And it isn't a strange law because 162 out of 194 countries of the world have the same law. Including Haiti, which wont grant citizenship to any children born to any illegal Dominican parent if born in Haiti or perhaps ANY other illegal Nationality as well. The United States however is in the minority, because they are only 1 out of 32 countries of the world that grant citizenship by Birth no matter if your parents are illegal however this have created "Anchor-Babies" which is worst because the Illegal Parents get deported but the government stay with the innocent child without his real parents. U.S. follow the "Jus Soli" law among 30 countries, In other words, the US are the exception to the law not the rule.
The reason why haitians, pro haitians, and afro centrics, call dominicans and the Dominican republic and their anti haitian views "racist" is because the only way they can win this argument and conflict is by making it a "racial issue". What alot of people fail to understand is that the Dominican republic fought hard against haiti to gain it's independence on February 27th 1844. Even after that independence the haitians tried multiple times to invade the Dominican republic once again to take over the whole island. The haitian and dominican issue is not a racial one but a "CULTURE" and "NATIONALITY" issue. The haitians were enslaved by the french and oppressed by their own haitian government but yet haitians only seem to point fingers to dominicans and the Dominican republic. The Dominican republic is a poor country that shares an island with haiti which is also a poor country itself. Even though haitians live in extreme poverty haitian women give birth to 3, 4, 5, children. Limited resources in haiti due to OVER BREEDING by haitian women causes a massive migration of pregnant haitian women to cross the border into the Dominican Republic. Dominican hospitals are full of pregnant haitian women to the point where they don't have any room or beds for Dominican citizens. Once these pregnant women with kids get to the dominican republic they expect the Dominican government to give them and their children the Dominican nationality. The haitian government itself doesn't even document it's own people but yet haitians expect the Dominican republic to do something for them that their own haitian government doesn't do! Basically they are blaming the Dominican republic because of what the haitian government has created them selves and that is a population of STATELESS PEOPLE. The Dominican republic is not a big and rich country like CANADA or The United states to be holding such a massive influx of haitian immigrants. Poor dominicans see themselves being displaced from jobs by haitians due to cheap labor that greedy bussiness owners love.
We have been helping them enough, if u dont know what been happening the last fking 15 YEARS, u need to stfu... you just read few articles & 2 videos and you think u r a fking expect on whats happenung?? Haitians r a bunch of ungrateful who want to make DR a shithole like them... they need to go back to Haiti all the 3 Million Illegals in a country of 10 Million Dominicans.
They are not Stateless, they are haitians. Stop the infamy against Dominican Republic. We are just trying to help to people on needing, nobody else is doing what we are doing for Haiti.
Besides Haiti not granting them their Documents at an affordable price, whats really messing me up is why they waited at the last minute to get their documents. These people were given 18 months to complete this process and still didnt get through.
I just worked in D.R for a year...They do get overwhelmed by Haitians and their committed most of the Crimes especially around Tourists areas where they can't afford to lose those profits. Everyone seemed Fed up with the Haitians it's overwhelming!
To understand this you need to go back into the history of both countries: The massacre of Moca, this was a massacre that took place in Santo Domingo on April 6, 1805 lead by tyrants Dessalines and Christophe with 40,000 Haitian soldiers. Municipalities of Santo Domingo (Monte Plata, Cotuí, La Vega, Santiago and Moca) were reduced to ashes and troops killed Dominicans, including children who were beheaded in a church, during a failed attempt to overthrow Jean-Louis Ferrand. 67 times did the Haitians tried to invade Dominican Republic in recorded history (with 22 years of continuous invasion) from 1801 up to 1867 when the Haitian government of the time finally accepted dominican independence. Dominicans fought and defeated the Haitians after 22 long years of massacres and cruelty occupation in 1844. The Dominican Republic was created against the Haitian occupation not against the Spanish occupation unlike all Spanish colonies did
Wow! As a young 🇩🇴American I didn’t know that! Thank you so much for posting this, I just fact checked it.. Now it makes so much sense why us 🇩🇴 don’t like Haitians.
Ppl never mention how Peña Gomez, a Dominican born of Haitian decent was able to build a real strong political/presidential movement on the island before his untimely and mysterious demise in the 90s #facts
Obviously no one here knows exactly what is going on in DR. I was born and raised 30Min from the border with Haiti. The Province is called Mao. Haitians are mostly humble hard working people. BUT! It doesnt mean that we are going to allow the massive migration of them citizens based on a Failed State called HAITI; is their problem, is their leaders problem because they do have leaders with a lot of money also the same ones that took charge of those millions of dollars collected after the Hearthquake. The reporter this lady Is giving a side report here. Making us look like Racist, Dominicans are mostly Dark skin when we say we dont want illegal Haitians in our country it doesnt mean we dont want dark skin mixed with us we mean HAITIANS!! That Is a nationality not a race ...
Some have been in the Dominican Republic for decades and they never thought to get documents for the Pass to Citizenship? How stupid to wait for the last moment to do what should have been done years ago. Now they're blaming the Dominican Republic.
@@themmmfamily7130 una isla e indivisible is what the haitians believe not the Dominicans. All those wars sealed that dispute when dominicans killed the Haitians and kicked them out dominican territory.
The comments section is so rotten. Many of these Dominican people of Haitian descent have the right to be in DR following La Sentencia of 2013. You can't expect to revoke the birthright citizenship in the Dominican Republic and then claim that it applies to even those who were born in the country back in 1929. That is cruel. These people can't "go back to their country" because Haiti is NOT their country. Legally Haiti can't recognize them because they were born in DR soil and many are 2nd or 3rd generation Dominican born. You can't be "deported" to a country where your great grandma lived in 1930. Tf.
The media falsely told you that birthright citizenship existed in the Dominican Republic. It did not. And it was not retroactively stripped. It’s always been by bloodline.
I wonder if Vice really investigated about these whole situation or if they just went with the cameras and filmed what they could find, cuz if the had investigated they would know this process has been open for a year and now they wait to the last minute to do it, it has been postponed 3 TIMES!!!! and most of these ppl in this video are clearly haitian not just by their accents but also if in ur passport says u were born is Haiti YOU'RE NOT STATELESS YOU'RE HAITIAN!! according to haitian constitution. very disappointed on Vice
Hey! I'm Dominican myself and it actually makes me so sad to read comments like yours because your comment is based on one side of the story, and at the same time you're generalizing. Just so you know: do NOT believe in every thing the media displays, especially if it comes from the US. It only shows what they believe it is most convenient for Americans to solve an international issue without spending money. For this reason, the US is forcing the Dominican government to take care of illegal ALIENS, not just illegal Haitians. This documentary only shows Haitians due to the fact that the great majority of undocumented people are from Haiti. However, there are pictures that show Asians, Americans, Central Americans, and some Europeans individuals who are also regulating their social status in the DR. When the 2010 earthquake happened in Haiti, the Dominican Republic was the first country that offered its support to its dear neighbors. Better yet, 40% of the DR national health care budget is destined for Haitians residing in the DR. Here, Haitians have assistance to free education and food. Please understand that all the DR wants is to protect its citizens by following the LAWS! Period. This is the Dominican Republic; this is not America. America CAN NEVER be compared to the Dominican Republic by any aspects. Our laws are NOT like the American's. These people were given 18 months to legalize their social status, which is something that the US OR any other country WOULD NEVER DO. Didn't you see the news of a Dominican guy, living in Spain for over 20 years, getting deported on the same day he was catch up due to its social status? Didn't you see it, right? I invite you to please go and check it out yourself. And this is only one scene; I constantly read the newspapers displaying news that state the deportation of Dominicans from the US. Are we going to fight the US because of this? Hell no. It's their law; the US can do whatever their laws tell them to do. Please, tell me... Why did these Haitians wait until the last minute to start this when they were given 18 months? Why Martelly (Haitian president) has not spoken in support of his people? Why the Dominican Republic (one of the poorest Latin countries in the world) has to take responsibility out of this? Did you watch Donald Trump's presidential announcement? Did you clearly hear when he marks that the US Economic will improve when the US starts to remove all illegal Mexicans from his country? That's exactly what the DR and a lot of countries in the world want to do to strengten the national economy and guarantee public safety because most of the crimen in this country are committed by Haitians, according to the national police report. This is NOT about race as the US media wants you to know. Lastly, it's up to you to decide whether you want to come or not; all illegal aliens will be REMOVED regardless of international pressure. We're not like Puerto Rico; we're an INDEPENDENT nation. Have a good night sweetie.
Judith Vasquez They DOnt give a single fuck about those poor Haitian's they're after exposure and BUZZ. I'd like to know if the camera man is willing to give asylum to one of those poor Haitian kids, or even the Reporter her self. Vice is caca, bunch of #hypocrites Judith. :D
1:49 "i have 10 kids and not even one can study." What kind of person has 10 kids when they are having problems feeding themselves? I believe that this is totally irresponsible. You make your own bed you lay on it, Go back to Haiti.
They better stay on THEIR side of the island. Us Dominicans don’t want them there and are tired of them. Bring them anywhere and you will see why we are tired of them 🤌🏽
They forgot to mention that Haitians and other foreigners had 18 months , for the first 16 months, Haitians groups like Reconoci.do and Mudha were telling Haitians not to go to the office and register, They lost 16 months and at the last minute all showed up..All other groups did their documents early without any problems .
Why are people saying this is racial? Most Dominicans are black or mixed with black, very few are what you would consider Hispanic (Amerindian and Spanish) admixture. Zoë Saldana is Dominican and she's black.
DR made the hard choice to save itself from population explosion and hence poverty. Saving their country is the #1 goal for DR's people. A place in the world that is prosperous and looks after it's people. Same as any other nation. Expelling from the country 350,000 Haitian migrants will help DR continue to be a strong independent nation.
The one lady says she has ten kids I would want to send her back she will be more of a burden Dominican Republic has enough problems if you have no money use your head and pull out don't shoot
Only around 60,000 Haitians will get citizenship who majority have been for years. The rest 2-3 MILLIONS will be deported because they came mostly after the latr 90's but specially after the 2010 Earthquake. D.R. is not a rich country like US, Canada... we CANNOT keep taking care of Haitians spending 500 Millions anually on them and no get into a Shithole country like Haiti.
they reside on the same island and they're aint much space to go around. colour me naive but simply booting them a few miles west aint gonna solve either nations problems since many of them have already laid roots i the DR anyway, uprooting them might cause more harm then good in the long run both socially and economically.
again they share the same island, lets say they booted them west, and the Haitian government cant support them. what then? Haiti falls into chaos and then spill into the DR in greater numbers than before? in order to solve this problem, instead of just handing it over to another government both governments need to come together come up with a more long term solution.
Willy Big at some point a young boy has to man up and grow up, thats the case of Haiti Right now, stop blaming the french, strop blaming DR and do something on your own. Become a legit country and not a failed state that uses the race card to get shit for free.
People from outside the country don't know what's happening, DR don't have an economy like US or another country, we can't with all that people from haiti, the economy situation is getting very difficult in my country
There's a problem with leaving things to last minute though, the offices where open to the naturalization process more than a year ago, I know this because I've helped employees from my family's business get their papers. Now, it looks like an impossible task because there are so many people.
So many outsiders looking in to quickly take "sides". Dominican Republic is the only country on this planet that spends billions on these Haitians when we already are in debt with other countries. Just because Haiti is next to us doesn't mean that they are a part of us - or share our history. It's simple, if you were born of Dominican descendants you are Dominican, same as Spain, US and many other places. If you REALLY care so much, allow these into your country and give them all your benefits... if you aren't willing to do that then STFU and stop reporting half the story.
Very misleading information here / People on top making decisions know that in order to maintain and improve the Dominican economy we can’t deport Haitians, it’s absurd and it’s not going to happen. Some ignorant people (like the reporter) guess that this is a deportation process. This is not about racism, the reporter even talked about ethnic cleansing as if were an objective. I demand VICE to change the reporter for saying this. Of course are there are victims here, this process is not perfect and Dominican Republic is a poor country. Some say older people who can’t find their documents may have to go back to Haiti, everyone else has time to obtain their permits; nevertheless, because of infrastructure problems the time limit has been postponed. This process is just the ONLY way to legalize the masses. There is no racism; there is ethnocentrism from some ignorant folks, but that is another subject. The truth is Dominican Republic is already part Haitian, Haitians already are an important part of our human talent that will built a better nation. Some of the best professionals are Haitians; we have great Haitians doctors and engineers. Even the best students in our universities are Haitians, and yes, better than Dominicans and they live normal lives with some ethnocentrism from time to time. Like I said before, there is no logical reason to deport most of the Illegal Haitians; this is a process to legalize them. It’s true that some politicians have forced the deadline to be seemed as strict but the date has been postponed already. I encourage people to read local new from hoy.com.do/, www.diariolibre.com/ and get more informed on the subject. I demand VICE to reassess how they explain this better so viewers really understand the situation.
DR looks like trash, full of prostitutes, young girls being sexually abused by tourist, mixed people who are not pure breed. What's so great about your country sir?
@@sasanyadawson6313 You hating big time jealousy showing... We don't need your kind. You wish you look Dominican. Great beautiful figure nice soft hair civilize people etc.
America is doing the same thing and I don’t see vice making a special about it ? Every sovereign country has a right to defend its borders how it sees fit sadly people get hurt in the process. How do you live in a country illegally for decades without status and expect a good outcome ? Asking for a friend.
is one thing to Deport those who arrived soon , most after the Earthquake but to Deport those who are BORN there , or live there for at least 10 years ... how many considered that this is RiDiCULOUS for the Dominican Government ?
Europe Armed Forces You obviously confuse the Dominican republic a sovereign nation with its own laws and its own history to America. they are not America.
I just hate that they are taking this to the racial level. Mexico and united states shares border, that doesn't stop united states to deport them. You are taking this like its all about color but more than half of Dominicans are dark complexion (black) and they are still Dominicans. Its about two countries with laws . Do some homework and study the history between these two countries from the past 200 years and maybe then you'll understand the Dominican government's point of view. Don't talk without knowing what you are talking about.
Social disorder, corrupted leadership, extortions, poverty, injustice, uncertainty, racism that's the reality of both countries, and that's what this documentary reflects. Thank you VICE for this doc.
Leonardo Suriel Morel is talking about the earthquake, but there are people that were living there long before the earthquake. Like the workers from the sugar cane plantations. Call it what it is racism and discrimination! 😤😤😤😤
Why this people Don't take Haitions to there country Dominicans have more than four millions Hations in there country . Hations are taking over Dominicans thay should fight for there rights in Haití not in Dominican Republic there're to much Haitions in Dominican Republic
Why are you complaining about them only having 4 computers? Did the the US or any NGO you give money to donate any computers or money to buy computers to document these people?
What makes me laugh most of ALL this... is the fact that NONE of the people who are doing these protests lives in the Dominican Republic, They have no idea of the real things that happen here, the only thing they know is what the media and people on social networks are saying (lies and exaggerated things) I'm Dominican and I'm not racist, I actually just bought an apartment in which an Haitian is the one helping me to make all the things done, there are many Dominicans helping Haitians to earn money, we are just a poor country in which we are trying to organize, we are doing something that other countries have already done previously, as a country we have many defects, but we are improving and we will not allow a group of people who have no idea what's going to stand in our way, I promise you that, do not waste your time.
Ok this reporter is getting on my nerves. If they were born in Jacqmel or any other city in Haiti, they aren't stateless, they have documentation, just not the Dominican one as they showed...🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Nothing is said about the fact that DR gave the services for free, while Haiti was charging it own people US$130.00 dollars for a birth certificate and a passport, to people that only make $5- 10 dollars a day in DR.. Of course the idea is to make DR look like the bad guy and that Haitians are STATELESS.. when their country is right around the corner and their constitution Guarantee citizenship to their children even when born in DR , Bahamas , Trinidad or anywhere.
Shit!! I cant believe I would be so disappointed with Vice, this was my favorite News source until I saw the series of videos you are making in the Dominican Republic, first of all the Dominican Republic like any other country in the world is exercising their right to protect their borders, their economy, and their people. You cant have people without identity roaming the streets of a country!! nameless people who can commit any crime, live of the government resources and getting advantage of the educational and health system of a place without giving anything back to society. The reporter you send there is the racist one she haven't interviewed one single Dominican on this situation and she's is putting words on the people's mouths maybe a lot of you don't realize this because maybe you don't speak Spanish. The Dominican Republic were the first country to help the Haitian people after the Earthquake, they allowed Haitians to cross the border without asking any papers so they can be treated on DR's hospitals those are the same people who doesn't want to go now, they gave a year to every illegal resident of the country to get theirs papers and nobody came until was 2 months left for the deadline. About the Children of Haitian people born in the Dominican Republic all the country is asking is proof of that but they doesn't even have a birth certificate just imaging to any person in the USA or any other country of the world who goes to a government agency to ask for a drivers licence, when they ask where are you from the person answers - from here OK give me your SSN number or your birth certificate, - Well I don't have any of those but I was born here. is the same situation, the same please let the people know both sides of the story and then make their choice stop this sensationalist and irrespective joke of "journalism"
To me that reporter is mad disgusting.. She is perhaps a yuppie who went out their an was probably raised with good standards but when she hopped out to DR. She knew she had to make a story. So what did she do focus on racism and injustice..amplifying it so whoever sees it automatically thinks we're racist. On top of that I would of force her to go to Santiago in the mountain area so she could see how the Haitians sneek in. Then iL put her to speak with a political organization which is trying to do resources for them.
While Dominican Republic faced deportation with Dominican Hatians mostly undocumented, Philippines and Indonesia are well treated and taken care with Indonesians lived in Mindanao thanks through programs to end stateless and deportation by documentation and social services like education and healthcare with the help by Philippine Government and Indonesian Government together with United Nations High Commission Of Refugees
@@lucyd3750 Yeah some of them are dual citizens of Dominican Republic before 2010(for example is a father who Hatian and mother is Dominican or vice versa)
@@darwinqpenaflorida3797 if you are born of two illegal parents, then you are never Dominican. If you have one parent who is Dominican, then by law, you have Dominican citizenship.
@@lucyd3750 Back then when illegal parents are confirmed as Dominican according to it's constitution in 1929, but in 2010 it was amendment when only Dominicans citizens are sole Citizens and then revoked some
Haitian has to respect dominican constitution, Not other countries care about Haiti right now only dominican republic, Is easy to blades dominican republic when other countries don't do shit to help Haiti. I hope Haiti growing economies. And for all those Haitian who live I USA, Europe and other countries start make business in your on country, like many dominican do. That going to help the economy of Haiti.
Esto es un vil montaje totalmente desfazado, mezclando hechos no conexos., con la deliberada intencion de desacreditar las acciones a favor de los haitianos que se han llevado a cabo durante los ultimos 18 meses.
y según con lo que dice su constitucion ellos son haitianos aunque hayan nacido en china , usa o tu país y si de verdad quieres ver caos y ataques raciales y abusos ve a las bahamas donde alli si son atacados!
Listen to this lady about that they all were born in the DR. Speak the truth lady. They can even speak Spanish proper. I have lots of Haitian friends who are born in DR and speak perfectly. if anyone is interested leave us with the ones whom are already legalized and take the rest to your countries to help them also the way we have and don't comment when you don't know facts of what is really going on there
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They were given a year to do that, we only asked them to bring a hatian ID/passport/Birth Certificate. Anyways it is a sad situation.
I'm sick of affluent western hipsters with messiah complexes going around telling poor nations (like DR) how they should live. No one at Vice has to live with the consequences either way.
Slavadil Reporting whats happening is not a messiah complex.
Slavadil 8 Dumbminicans like you comment..
I agree with you vice needs to better educate their reporter befor sending them to report
Andrew Wealth That is not reporting, at least not objective reporting
Slavadil You all are racist.
The reason why haitians, pro haitians, and afro centrics, call dominicans and the Dominican republic and their anti haitian views "racist" is because the only way they can win this argument and conflict is by making it a "racial issue". What alot of people fail to understand is that the Dominican republic fought hard against haiti to gain it's independence on February 27th 1844. Even after that independence the haitians tried multiple times to invade the Dominican republic once again to take over the whole island. The haitian and dominican issue is not a racial one but a "CULTURE" and "NATIONALITY" issue. The haitians were enslaved by the french and oppressed by their own haitian government but yet haitians only seem to point fingers to dominicans and the Dominican republic. The Dominican republic is a poor country that shares an island with haiti which is also a poor country itself. Even though haitians live in extreme poverty haitian women give birth to 3, 4, 5, children. Limited resources in haiti due to OVER BREEDING by haitian women causes a massive migration of pregnant haitian women to cross the border into the Dominican Republic. Dominican hospitals are full of pregnant haitian women to the point where they don't have any room or beds for Dominican citizens. Once these pregnant women with kids get to the dominican republic they expect the Dominican government to give them and their children the Dominican nationality. The haitian government itself doesn't even document it's own people but yet haitians expect the Dominican republic to do something for them that their own haitian government doesn't do! Basically they are blaming the Dominican republic because of what the haitian government has created them selves and that is a population of STATELESS PEOPLE. The Dominican republic is not a big and rich country like CANADA or The United states to be holding such a massive influx of haitian immigrants. Poor dominicans see themselves being displaced from jobs by haitians due to cheap labor that greedy bussiness owners love.
YoDanyrd D Why are you involving afro centrics in this? As far as Afro centrics are concerned, dominicans are also of Africans Origins.
YoDanyrd D Thank you for saving me some key strokes lol. Nailed. They always use the RACE card to get away with shit. The Dominican Republic doesn't bend over to the Politically correct America.
yodanyrd Well, dude i would never claim a latino; An Afro centric can cleary make the distinction between someone who is mixed, latino and clearly of african descent. Most dominicans are mixed , won't you agree? Afrocentrics, at least the ones i know, only claims those who look like them. And if you're a full blooded latino or even mixed; Then i apologize for my previous comment.
Alright thats good.
Oky bro, first of all, Latino is no a race, most Latinos are actually mixes.
Yes most Dominican r mixes like Ricans, Cubans and the rest of Latinos.
Well, i have debate with many afrocentric and they usually wanna claim us and i always put them back in their place.
Its fine bro, apologies accepted.
yodanyrd It hard to find logical anwser about this kind of topics, many people always used the argument that just because they're poor you MUST help them regardless of the situation of the other states, so that I must say to exposed very strong argument and i like it
Dominicans have every right to kick out who ever they want to this is their country
Dude Haiti occupied them mud for 23 years
Thank you
Rebel R Black why are you hating on dominicans?
Say whatever but the island is Haiti, THE WHOLE ISLAND and regardless of what anyone says these so called dominicans are Haitians.
Melanin Queen the island is la Española what are you talking about
"I have 10 kids and not one of them can study." Well might as well have some more then.
I was appalled AND disgusted
In Punta Cana, 85% of the population is Haitian. It is basically a Haitian city. It is easy to understand why Dominicans are fed up and the government had to act. No one should be a minority in their own country.
Did you know Haiti occupied Dominican republic for more than 23years
At least they did not massacre them this time like in the past. Why Haitians will want to go there after that wicked history is beyond me.
@@rebelrblack did you know that the whole island is HAITI. 🤯
And that all this fighting is nothing but BS made up by you know who. Everyone on that island is Haitian. Dessaline declared it so and as our first and great Emperor his word is law. Period.
@pepe0801 "even Haitians dont want haitian women" stop lying and spreading propaganda on the internet, that's some bullshit and it stinks through my computer. Just go be with whatever you chose and stop bad mouth Caribbean women just because we wont date you. I've yet to meet a Haitian men that dont swear by their Haitian women love, sorry boo you need to spread that lie elsewhere.
@pepe0801i am happy that you are not black and hate is on your Dna .by the way i am from the south of sweden .dont assume that iam haitian because i am black .if you see my girl she is white but she is african .
How could someone who was born in haiti be stateless. I can understand someone who was born in the DR that had their DR citizenship revoked being stateless, but if you were born in Haiti this ruling does not invalidate their Haitian citizenship. They CAN go back to Haiti, at least legally speaking.
They never had nationality, just because you where born somewhere doesnt means your from that country not every country uses juis solis principle, if you are born in denmark of foreing fathers your not from denmark so you can ask them to that questions but you desire so much to be dominicans and not haitians, we strong and rich now you on the other side are poor and weak and still pulling the feel sorry for me card after 200 years... haitian diaspora they dont even want to go there no more, they dont invest in their country never , they rather live in usa in peace, no haitian american is going to risk his capital or life in haiti they rather invest or retire in dominican republic they have their investment secure with clean title of property, in haiti you cant get bothing the goverment is so corrupt it doesnt even work, when trump said haiti was a shit hole nobody said nothing but ok....
Im with the dominicans cuz that countrie is poor and small.. They have to do something about it.
1:36 "This woman Was born in Tomasic, Haiti (show documentation in hands like the others), but they cant go back to the country they say... so they are stateless practically"....WTF! Of course not, they are haitians!
Imagine if Haitians fought that hard for their right in their owm country.
Rammel Ceri Right?! Que se quedan allá! Pongan se a trabajar y mejorar su propia país
Dont say that when you dont know the battles that goes on their every day. Please please don't speak on if if all your information comes from places like this. Thank you and love 🇭🇹🖤
Melanin Queen You want understanding and compassion for the people of Haiti, but when it comes to the people of DR it seems your wrath is limitless.
A nation that can barely swim can not save a nation drowning it takes an international intervention to do that. Get your governments involved to help Haiti Now!
Haiti is for Haitians. DR is for Dominicans
Those countries are for human beings and we all are human beings
@@savvlogs8007no your country is in Senegal threw out Congo’s you are descendants of them stop clinging on to another country like a leach and return to your country
The united Nations ain't shit
The nations are not even really united all they do is argue
backlash the world don't need them or NATO
I love the way how these foreign agencies decide who is Dominican and who is Haitian. They are all Haitians with a heavy creol accent and yet they call them Dominicans,.. Never mind the laws of both Countries.. its whatever any non profit group say... To be Dominicans your parents have to be Dominicans or LEGAL residents.. Most are illegals or children of Contract workers, and according to the treaties their children are NOT DOMINICANS ..
Ok but when you have a child in the US he or she is American I’m Dominican born in USA if this took effect here we all be crying shit wolf it’s easy to say till things turn on u I will never be colonized by a European mind complex I’m keep utilizing my resources to edify my brown black ppl no matter where they from ‼️
Bill Gates. You idiot??. Every country have they own constitution!!
And please be proud to be Haitian and stop trying to be Dominican.
I wish the 3 millions of Haitians aliens that living in the DR see your comment and leave DR
Bill Gates there is only a handful of countries that have that law of birth right. Every country is entitled to their own laws. Don’t like it? Get out.
A country has the sovereign right to protect its borders and people. Nationals first. Immigrants after. Bleedings hearts need to get real.
VICE News was at the Santo Domingo Ministry of the Interior on what was the final day for thousands of Dominican Haitians to apply for citizenship, and avoid deportation.
Watch VICE News’ Raw Coverage from the Dominican Republic - bit.ly/1IRDxLf
***** So the moment they were born in Dominican Republic, these people were illegal? Illegal what? Illegal non-immigrants? Illegal natives? How did they manage to spend their whole lives there, get educated and employed, and work maybe for longer than you live?
***** The law cannot be enforced after a lifetime spent there (and exclusively there!). And you did not answer my quesiton.
***** What you don't understand is that bona fide democracies can't just change a law retroactively. The Dominican laws until 2004 clearly stated that Dominican citizenship was given to anyone on Dominican soil, except for children of diplomats and those "in transit" (meaning a period of less than ten days). These were people who for their entire lives were Dominican and suddenly had their citizenship taken due to shady, at best, legal practices. The problem arises from the un-democratic nature of the process and the lack of place for retroactive measures in bona fide democracies.
***** Have you considered that maybe they committed a mistake?
VICE News the U.S infiltrated Haiti back when the earthquake happened. they put their own government like in Ukraine and now the people of Haiti don't want to live there no more. thanks for the destruction all over the world U.S and george bush
They don’t remember haiti and yet they’re screaming “papelo” instead of papeles. Propaganda
They don't remember the 23years of occupation Haiti had swipe on they face
They don't remember the 23years of occupation Haiti had swipe on they face
Maybe they mad about that 23 years of occupation
Jahblack wise and yet look at them now. What happened? 🤦🏽♂️
It's funny how the female reporter states that most of the people trying to gain papers are born in DR yet they all had a Haitian accent.
The DR needs to protect itself.
I want more black Latino population🇭🇹🇩🇴🇲🇽🇬🇹🇨🇺🇸🇻🇵🇦🇻🇪
@@savvlogs8007 How you going to protect yourself against US & Canadian military/police equipment given to Haitian Public servants?
Why dont they make a documentary about the Dominicans getting deported from USA, Spain, Puerto Rico, Chile? You dont hear Dominicans making such a scene, they just go back home
E Piantini wtf how is this DR problem...this report is not fair
And Vice News ought be declared persona non grata in the Dominican Republic after this disgusting onslaught of misinformation.
Vice news son Unos hijos de las granputas.
@@onedirectionemely LMAOOOO
Dominicans racist
They aren't stateless, according to Haitian's constitution every citizen born or descendant of Haitians is automatically a Haitian, the problem is this people ( which if you listen closely have Haitian accent) are claiming for Dominican Nationality because the economical conditions are exponencially better in DR than in Haiti, they won't come back, cuz it's worst. So it's within Haitian authorities to improve the infrastructure to provide a better contry and stop the huge mass corruption there.
bittercottoncandy Before that was to happen the Native Indians and the African Americans should use that line, let alone the Mexicans. USA is a 100% immigrant country. NOT the same.
bittercottoncandy Simple, in a home where two can eat, you cant invite 4. DR is very Poor country, we CAN'T take care of Haiti, they need to grow the fuck up and move on like we're trying to do. Got it? if you're so eager to help the needy, please grab a few Haitians and give them Asylum, "God" will appreciate your help.
Judith Vasquez you are a very smart woman. that's exactly what's going on and DR knows that Haitians will be paid off by Haiti/U.S puppet government to infiltrate their country. salute Queen
bittercottoncandy Simple, If every Dominican living in the US would go back to D.R the economy would have a huge BOOST. The country would be better than ever before. You would have allot of successful Dominican Entrepreneurs who would bring their great ideas into the country and everyone would come together to make it a better place to live. :)
@@davidmthekidd DR is poor? Dude DR economy is 100000 times larger, more competitive than Haiti
I blame the so-called Haitian government for this. When will actually govern?
More than 90% of Haitians and their descendants in the DR arrived in the late 1980s onwards and did so on their own.
Also, the Supreme Court only has clarification capabilities, not retroactive. The only thing the court did with clear up once again what every Dominican constitution since 1929 has said, that those born to people in transit (term that include illegal immigrants) are not entitled to Dominican citizenship, but rather to the citizenship of their parents. Also, any identity documents adquired fraudulently are void. Most of those Haitians that thought had Dominican citizenship in reality they never had it because they didn't qualify.
What the Constitution Tribunal ordered was to put an end to the confusion by revising the Civil Registry from 1929 to 2007 for all the people registered illegally. Then, once they are identified, the legal status of the generation that migrated illegally or with a temp permit and stayed illegally, will be legalized and their descendants, due to the absoption clause in the law, will automatically receive a legitimate Dominican citizenship.
Those that qualify for this amounts to some 26,000 people from over 100 nationalities, but of those some 14,000 are Haitian. A grace period will be given for those identified inthe Civil Registry to start their regularization process. Those that don't start the process (and those that are not in the Civil Registry) once the grace period is over, will be subject to deportation.
The court ruling is actually legitimately dominicanizing those Haitians with fraudulent documents and many decades in the DR.
The anti-Dominican campaign that has been spread internationally and based on misinformation, exaggerated numbers, and and outright lies is just that, an attempt at discrediting the Dominican government.
The UN and the European Union already looked into the process and due to that, became aware all the lies many NGOs and the Haitian diplomats have been spreading around the world in an attempt to discredit the DR. The UN and the EU now support the Dominican regularization process.
Such a shame so many people have been dooped in this and are reacting based on half truth and incorrect assumptions.
In anycase, all rulings from the Supreme Court and the Constitutional Tribunal are not reversible, they are fi al and can't be appealed.
DR just like 162 countries out of 194 countries of the world do not give automatic citizenship to those born there. DR is Jus Sanguini, in otherwords you have to have at least 1 Dominican parent to be considered Dominican and for citizenship. If your parents are illegal immigrants and their kid is born in DR, that kid isn't a citizen because he was born in transit, in other words the baby is illegal as well. This law has been our law since 1929. And it isn't a strange law because 162 out of 194 countries of the world have the same law. Including Haiti, which wont grant citizenship to any children born to any illegal Dominican parent if born in Haiti or perhaps ANY other illegal Nationality as well.
The United States however is in the minority, because they are only 1 out of 32 countries of the world that grant citizenship by Birth no matter if your parents are illegal however this have created "Anchor-Babies" which is worst because the Illegal Parents get deported but the government stay with the innocent child without his real parents.
U.S. follow the "Jus Soli" law among 30 countries, In other words, the US are the exception to the law not the rule.
The reason why haitians, pro haitians, and afro centrics, call dominicans and the Dominican republic and their anti haitian views "racist" is because the only way they can win this argument and conflict is by making it a "racial issue". What alot of people fail to understand is that the Dominican republic fought hard against haiti to gain it's independence on February 27th 1844. Even after that independence the haitians tried multiple times to invade the Dominican republic once again to take over the whole island. The haitian and dominican issue is not a racial one but a "CULTURE" and "NATIONALITY" issue. The haitians were enslaved by the french and oppressed by their own haitian government but yet haitians only seem to point fingers to dominicans and the Dominican republic. The Dominican republic is a poor country that shares an island with haiti which is also a poor country itself. Even though haitians live in extreme poverty haitian women give birth to 3, 4, 5, children. Limited resources in haiti due to OVER BREEDING by haitian women causes a massive migration of pregnant haitian women to cross the border into the Dominican Republic. Dominican hospitals are full of pregnant haitian women to the point where they don't have any room or beds for Dominican citizens. Once these pregnant women with kids get to the dominican republic they expect the Dominican government to give them and their children the Dominican nationality. The haitian government itself doesn't even document it's own people but yet haitians expect the Dominican republic to do something for them that their own haitian government doesn't do! Basically they are blaming the Dominican republic because of what the haitian government has created them selves and that is a population of STATELESS PEOPLE. The Dominican republic is not a big and rich country like CANADA or The United states to be holding such a massive influx of haitian immigrants. Poor dominicans see themselves being displaced from jobs by haitians due to cheap labor that greedy bussiness owners love.
We have been helping them enough, if u dont know what been happening the last fking 15 YEARS, u need to stfu... you just read few articles & 2 videos and you think u r a fking expect on whats happenung??
Haitians r a bunch of ungrateful who want to make DR a shithole like them... they need to go back to Haiti all the 3 Million Illegals in a country of 10 Million Dominicans.
They are not Stateless, they are haitians. Stop the infamy against Dominican Republic. We are just trying to help to people on needing, nobody else is doing what we are doing for Haiti.
Besides Haiti not granting them their Documents at an affordable price, whats really messing me up is why they waited at the last minute to get their documents. These people were given 18 months to complete this process and still didnt get through.
I just worked in D.R for a year...They do get overwhelmed by Haitians and their committed most of the Crimes especially around Tourists areas where they can't afford to lose those profits. Everyone seemed Fed up with the Haitians it's overwhelming!
To understand this you need to go back into the history of both countries:
The massacre of Moca, this was a massacre that took place in Santo Domingo on April 6, 1805 lead by tyrants Dessalines and Christophe with 40,000 Haitian soldiers. Municipalities of Santo Domingo (Monte Plata, Cotuí, La Vega, Santiago and Moca) were reduced to ashes and troops killed Dominicans, including children who were beheaded in a church, during a failed attempt to overthrow Jean-Louis Ferrand.
67 times did the Haitians tried to invade Dominican Republic in recorded history (with 22 years of continuous invasion) from 1801 up to 1867 when the Haitian government of the time finally accepted dominican independence.
Dominicans fought and defeated the Haitians after 22 long years of massacres and cruelty occupation in 1844. The Dominican Republic was created against the Haitian occupation not against the Spanish occupation unlike all Spanish colonies did
Wow! As a young 🇩🇴American I didn’t know that! Thank you so much for posting this, I just fact checked it.. Now it makes so much sense why us 🇩🇴 don’t like Haitians.
Ppl never mention how Peña Gomez, a Dominican born of Haitian decent was able to build a real strong political/presidential movement on the island before his untimely and mysterious demise in the 90s #facts
In DR I meant
Obviously no one here knows exactly what is going on in DR. I was born and raised 30Min from the border with Haiti. The Province is called Mao. Haitians are mostly humble hard working people. BUT! It doesnt mean that we are going to allow the massive migration of them citizens based on a Failed State called HAITI; is their problem, is their leaders problem because they do have leaders with a lot of money also the same ones that took charge of those millions of dollars collected after the Hearthquake. The reporter this lady Is giving a side report here. Making us look like Racist, Dominicans are mostly Dark skin when we say we dont want illegal Haitians in our country it doesnt mean we dont want dark skin mixed with us we mean HAITIANS!! That Is a nationality not a race ...
If u feel so bad for those people why dont u give them refuge in ur country?
Some have been in the Dominican Republic for decades and they never thought to get documents for the Pass to Citizenship? How stupid to wait for the last moment to do what should have been done years ago. Now they're blaming the Dominican Republic.
The Haitian government charges them $100.00 while the DR charges $0 for processing fees.
It’s should be that deep it’s one island . Soon the Dominicans will realize that what they stand for is wrong
@@themmmfamily7130 una isla e indivisible is what the haitians believe not the Dominicans. All those wars sealed that dispute when dominicans killed the Haitians and kicked them out dominican territory.
@@Xenlacasa45 y’all were funded by France n Spain , ... Spain came back n tried reinstate slavery on yall after y’all broke off from AYITI
@@themmmfamily7130 Spain didn’t reinstate slavery. Pure comedy.
The comments section is so rotten. Many of these Dominican people of Haitian descent have the right to be in DR following La Sentencia of 2013. You can't expect to revoke the birthright citizenship in the Dominican Republic and then claim that it applies to even those who were born in the country back in 1929. That is cruel. These people can't "go back to their country" because Haiti is NOT their country. Legally Haiti can't recognize them because they were born in DR soil and many are 2nd or 3rd generation Dominican born. You can't be "deported" to a country where your great grandma lived in 1930. Tf.
Look up jus sanguinis vs jus solis.
The media falsely told you that birthright citizenship existed in the Dominican Republic. It did not. And it was not retroactively stripped. It’s always been by bloodline.
I wonder if Vice really investigated about these whole situation or if they just went with the cameras and filmed what they could find, cuz if the had investigated they would know this process has been open for a year and now they wait to the last minute to do it, it has been postponed 3 TIMES!!!! and most of these ppl in this video are clearly haitian not just by their accents but also if in ur passport says u were born is Haiti YOU'RE NOT STATELESS YOU'RE HAITIAN!! according to haitian constitution. very disappointed on Vice
Judith Vasquez They probably did not. They just made this shitty documentary to denigrate the Dominican Republic.
Judith Vasquez Bullshit bunch of SOB. Most of the people have spend their lives in the DR and their children were born there.
Hey! I'm Dominican myself and it actually makes me so sad to read comments like yours because your comment is based on one side of the story, and at the same time you're generalizing. Just so you know: do NOT believe in every thing the media displays, especially if it comes from the US. It only shows what they believe it is most convenient for Americans to solve an international issue without spending money. For this reason, the US is forcing the Dominican government to take care of illegal ALIENS, not just illegal Haitians. This documentary only shows Haitians due to the fact that the great majority of undocumented people are from Haiti. However, there are pictures that show Asians, Americans, Central Americans, and some Europeans individuals who are also regulating their social status in the DR. When the 2010 earthquake happened in Haiti, the Dominican Republic was the first country that offered its support to its dear neighbors. Better yet, 40% of the DR national health care budget is destined for Haitians residing in the DR. Here, Haitians have assistance to free education and food. Please understand that all the DR wants is to protect its citizens by following the LAWS! Period. This is the Dominican Republic; this is not America. America CAN NEVER be compared to the Dominican Republic by any aspects. Our laws are NOT like the American's. These people were given 18 months to legalize their social status, which is something that the US OR any other country WOULD NEVER DO. Didn't you see the news of a Dominican guy, living in Spain for over 20 years, getting deported on the same day he was catch up due to its social status? Didn't you see it, right? I invite you to please go and check it out yourself. And this is only one scene; I constantly read the newspapers displaying news that state the deportation of Dominicans from the US. Are we going to fight the US because of this? Hell no. It's their law; the US can do whatever their laws tell them to do. Please, tell me... Why did these Haitians wait until the last minute to start this when they were given 18 months? Why Martelly (Haitian president) has not spoken in support of his people? Why the Dominican Republic (one of the poorest Latin countries in the world) has to take responsibility out of this? Did you watch Donald Trump's presidential announcement? Did you clearly hear when he marks that the US Economic will improve when the US starts to remove all illegal Mexicans from his country? That's exactly what the DR and a lot of countries in the world want to do to strengten the national economy and guarantee public safety because most of the crimen in this country are committed by Haitians, according to the national police report. This is NOT about race as the US media wants you to know. Lastly, it's up to you to decide whether you want to come or not; all illegal aliens will be REMOVED regardless of international pressure. We're not like Puerto Rico; we're an INDEPENDENT nation. Have a good night sweetie.
AmbarRama Damn you made a good point.
Judith Vasquez They DOnt give a single fuck about those poor Haitian's they're after exposure and BUZZ. I'd like to know if the camera man is willing to give asylum to one of those poor Haitian kids, or even the Reporter her self. Vice is caca, bunch of #hypocrites Judith. :D
1:49 "i have 10 kids and not even one can study." What kind of person has 10 kids when they are having problems feeding themselves? I believe that this is totally irresponsible. You make your own bed you lay on it, Go back to Haiti.
Go back to your country you are right cause there's nothing in Dominican republic besides stealing, criminology and prostitution
Rebel R Black so I just wonder if is this bad in DR, why are they fighting for residence there.
They better stay on THEIR side of the island. Us Dominicans don’t want them there and are tired of them. Bring them anywhere and you will see why we are tired of them 🤌🏽
Make me feel good hearing haitian brothers speaking créole
Get them out clean our country
Yes.
Dirty country lol
Sasanya Dawson you should see Haiti.
They forgot to mention that Haitians and other foreigners had 18 months , for the first 16 months, Haitians groups like Reconoci.do and Mudha were telling Haitians not to go to the office and register, They lost 16 months and at the last minute all showed up..All other groups did their documents early without any problems .
Why are people saying this is racial? Most Dominicans are black or mixed with black, very few are what you would consider Hispanic (Amerindian and Spanish) admixture. Zoë Saldana is Dominican and she's black.
Dominicans come illegally to Puerto Rico and we welcome them. Why don't Dominicans accept the Haitians that go to the DR?
yeah right most Puerto Ricans want Dominicans out of there
thats a lie pr dont want them either
Lies.
DR made the hard choice to save itself from population explosion and hence poverty. Saving their country is the #1 goal for DR's people. A place in the world that is prosperous and looks after it's people. Same as any other nation. Expelling from the country 350,000 Haitian migrants will help DR continue to be a strong independent nation.
The one lady says she has ten kids I would want to send her back she will be more of a burden Dominican Republic has enough problems if you have no money use your head and pull out don't shoot
purposefully making the process of citizenship long. Absolutely shocking, why is the Dominican republic doing this?
Only around 60,000 Haitians will get citizenship who majority have been for years. The rest 2-3 MILLIONS will be deported because they came mostly after the latr 90's but specially after the 2010 Earthquake.
D.R. is not a rich country like US, Canada... we CANNOT keep taking care of Haitians spending 500 Millions anually on them and no get into a Shithole country like Haiti.
they reside on the same island and they're aint much space to go around.
colour me naive but simply booting them a few miles west aint gonna solve either nations problems since many of them have already laid roots i the DR anyway,
uprooting them might cause more harm then good in the long run both socially and economically.
again they share the same island, lets say they booted them west, and the Haitian government cant support them. what then? Haiti falls into chaos and then spill into the DR in greater numbers than before? in order to solve this problem, instead of just handing it over to another government both governments need to come together come up with a more long term solution.
Willy Big Because our country is poor and we don't want to become even poorer.
Willy Big at some point a young boy has to man up and grow up, thats the case of Haiti Right now, stop blaming the french, strop blaming DR and do something on your own. Become a legit country and not a failed state that uses the race card to get shit for free.
People from outside the country don't know what's happening, DR don't have an economy like US or another country, we can't with all that people from haiti, the economy situation is getting very difficult in my country
There's a problem with leaving things to last minute though, the offices where open to the naturalization process more than a year ago, I know this because I've helped employees from my family's business get their papers. Now, it looks like an impossible task because there are so many people.
So this is Islam the religion of "peace", oh no wait..wrong video....
*****
sure buddy
Lord Buzan That was unique, really funny
Lord Buzan The religion of Peace will strike at any moment now.
u a fucking clown
So many outsiders looking in to quickly take "sides". Dominican Republic is the only country on this planet that spends billions on these Haitians when we already are in debt with other countries. Just because Haiti is next to us doesn't mean that they are a part of us - or share our history. It's simple, if you were born of Dominican descendants you are Dominican, same as Spain, US and many other places. If you REALLY care so much, allow these into your country and give them all your benefits... if you aren't willing to do that then STFU and stop reporting half the story.
Wish our court had the guts to make a decision like that here.
You mean being Racist? You sound dumb bro
There are 15 African States willing to take them if there not needed
Only Senegal is willing to take them.
Very misleading information here / People on top making decisions know that in order to maintain and improve the Dominican economy we can’t deport Haitians, it’s absurd and it’s not going to happen. Some ignorant people (like the reporter) guess that this is a deportation process. This is not about racism, the reporter even talked about ethnic cleansing as if were an objective. I demand VICE to change the reporter for saying this.
Of course are there are victims here, this process is not perfect and Dominican Republic is a poor country. Some say older people who can’t find their documents may have to go back to Haiti, everyone else has time to obtain their permits; nevertheless, because of infrastructure problems the time limit has been postponed. This process is just the ONLY way to legalize the masses.
There is no racism; there is ethnocentrism from some ignorant folks, but that is another subject. The truth is Dominican Republic is already part Haitian, Haitians already are an important part of our human talent that will built a better nation. Some of the best professionals are Haitians; we have great Haitians doctors and engineers. Even the best students in our universities are Haitians, and yes, better than Dominicans and they live normal lives with some ethnocentrism from time to time.
Like I said before, there is no logical reason to deport most of the Illegal Haitians; this is a process to legalize them. It’s true that some politicians have forced the deadline to be seemed as strict but the date has been postponed already.
I encourage people to read local new from hoy.com.do/, www.diariolibre.com/ and get more informed on the subject. I demand VICE to reassess how they explain this better so viewers really understand the situation.
Give them Qatari residence. Take them to Qatar
the dr its not structured to deal with so many people at once
The DR is just taking out the trash.
Yes they are.
DR looks like trash, full of prostitutes, young girls being sexually abused by tourist, mixed people who are not pure breed. What's so great about your country sir?
@@sasanyadawson6313 You hating big time jealousy showing... We don't need your kind. You wish you look Dominican. Great beautiful figure nice soft hair civilize people etc.
HOW CAN THE DR BE TAKING OUT THE TRASH, WHEN THEIR THE TRASH BUCKET? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
@@yashua27 2nd world nation Haitian is a fith world which is a catastrophic classicafication mainly given to black nations.
America is doing the same thing and I don’t see vice making a special about it ? Every sovereign country has a right to defend its borders how it sees fit sadly people get hurt in the process. How do you live in a country illegally for decades without status and expect a good outcome ? Asking for a friend.
I mean bro the America situation it’s pretty mainstream and only ppl from/who live in DR and Haiti know abt that
is one thing to Deport those who arrived soon , most after the Earthquake
but to Deport those who are BORN there , or live there for at least 10 years ...
how many considered that this is RiDiCULOUS for the Dominican Government ?
Europe Armed Forces You obviously confuse the Dominican republic a sovereign nation with its own laws and its own history to America. they are not America.
WE NEED TRUJILLO NOWWWWWWWWWWW!
we dont he massacred haitians in 1937
I just hate that they are taking this to the racial level. Mexico and united states shares border, that doesn't stop united states to deport them. You are taking this like its all about color but more than half of Dominicans are dark complexion (black) and they are still Dominicans. Its about two countries with laws . Do some homework and study the history between these two countries from the past 200 years and maybe then you'll understand the Dominican government's point of view. Don't talk without knowing what you are talking about.
I though vice was a bit less biassed.
castillo tallaj you thought wrong lol
White media is never unbiased.
Well Dominicans are racist that’s just what it is
Social disorder, corrupted leadership, extortions, poverty, injustice, uncertainty, racism that's the reality of both countries, and that's what this documentary reflects. Thank you VICE for this doc.
you need someone that actually understands latin american culture, not some woman that happens to speak spanish.
EVERY COUNTRY SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN end of the story no bullshit
how come so many of you guys leave to go to america and now the uk if you were taken care of so much!
how come so many of you guys leave to go to america and now the uk if you were taken care of so much!
We help them
if vice want them or pity them, then let them live in your countries
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯
Leonardo Suriel Morel is talking about the earthquake, but there are people that were living there long before the earthquake. Like the workers from the sugar cane plantations.
Call it what it is racism and discrimination! 😤😤😤😤
This will never happen in sweden sadly
4:30 "oh shit, let's go back to work"
Haitians should try to resolve their own problems and put it on dr we cant offord them
This Dominican Haitians thing feels like the Sri Lankan Tamils thing. Only Time will Tell.
Why this people Don't take Haitions to there country Dominicans have more than four millions Hations in there country . Hations are taking over Dominicans thay should fight for there rights in Haití not in Dominican Republic there're to much Haitions in Dominican Republic
It's no way in hell I would spend my money in the DR! Oh no.
Why are you complaining about them only having 4 computers? Did the the US or any NGO you give money to donate any computers or money to buy computers to document these people?
What makes me laugh most of ALL this... is the fact that NONE of the people who are doing these protests lives in the Dominican Republic,
They have no idea of the real things that happen here, the only thing they know is what the media and people on social networks are saying (lies and exaggerated things) I'm Dominican and I'm not racist, I actually just bought an apartment in which an Haitian is the one helping me to make all the things done, there are many Dominicans helping Haitians to earn money, we are just a poor country in which we are trying to organize, we are doing something that other countries have already done previously, as a country we have many defects, but we are improving and we will not allow a group of people who have no idea what's going to stand in our way, I promise you that, do not waste your time.
Literally this is what would happen if Norway is filled with Afghans.
Why cant Haiti get a good prez and govt for there people. Geez isnt about time.
Because they are stupid as hell
Ok this reporter is getting on my nerves. If they were born in Jacqmel or any other city in Haiti, they aren't stateless, they have documentation, just not the Dominican one as they showed...🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
They claim they are Dominican but they don't speak Spanish very well.
black is the real reason
Looks like LA skid row
This is absolutely FUBAR. The comment section will be like the Ferguson Riots all over again.
Nothing is said about the fact that DR gave the services for free, while Haiti was charging it own people US$130.00 dollars for a birth certificate and a passport, to people that only make $5- 10 dollars a day in DR.. Of course the idea is to make DR look like the bad guy and that Haitians are STATELESS.. when their country is right around the corner and their constitution Guarantee citizenship to their children even when born in DR , Bahamas , Trinidad or anywhere.
VICE I'm dissapointed...
Shit!! I cant believe I would be so disappointed with Vice, this was my favorite News source until I saw the series of videos you are making in the Dominican Republic, first of all the Dominican Republic like any other country in the world is exercising their right to protect their borders, their economy, and their people. You cant have people without identity roaming the streets of a country!! nameless people who can commit any crime, live of the government resources and getting advantage of the educational and health system of a place without giving anything back to society. The reporter you send there is the racist one she haven't interviewed one single Dominican on this situation and she's is putting words on the people's mouths maybe a lot of you don't realize this because maybe you don't speak Spanish.
The Dominican Republic were the first country to help the Haitian people after the Earthquake, they allowed Haitians to cross the border without asking any papers so they can be treated on DR's hospitals those are the same people who doesn't want to go now, they gave a year to every illegal resident of the country to get theirs papers and nobody came until was 2 months left for the deadline.
About the Children of Haitian people born in the Dominican Republic all the country is asking is proof of that but they doesn't even have a birth certificate just imaging to any person in the USA or any other country of the world who goes to a government agency to ask for a drivers licence, when they ask where are you from the person answers - from here OK give me your SSN number or your birth certificate, - Well I don't have any of those but I was born here. is the same situation, the same please let the people know both sides of the story and then make their choice stop this sensationalist and irrespective joke of "journalism"
10 minutes of he said she said and no facts other than there's a huge fucking mess in the DR.
To me that reporter is mad disgusting.. She is perhaps a yuppie who went out their an was probably raised with good standards but when she hopped out to DR. She knew she had to make a story. So what did she do focus on racism and injustice..amplifying it so whoever sees it automatically thinks we're racist. On top of that I would of force her to go to Santiago in the mountain area so she could see how the Haitians sneek in. Then iL put her to speak with a political organization which is trying to do resources for them.
I love how they just put Colombian women in charge
To shit on us
Colombian women don't look good. She's an ugly human being playing devil's advocate.
Being
Black is true answer
Dominicans are lighter skin but they share the same Island with Hattie and that island is not that big
NOT ALL DOMINICANS ARE LIGHT SKINNED, ASK SAMMY SOSA, BEFOR HE BLEACHED HIMSELF WHITE. LOL
What the hell happen to Haitians in this world everytime every where the same situation! It's really u believe le!!! 🤔🤔
While Dominican Republic faced deportation with Dominican Hatians mostly undocumented, Philippines and Indonesia are well treated and taken care with Indonesians lived in Mindanao thanks through programs to end stateless and deportation by documentation and social services like education and healthcare with the help by Philippine Government and Indonesian Government together with United Nations High Commission Of Refugees
They are simply Haitian. They are not Dominican.
@@lucyd3750 Yeah some of them are dual citizens of Dominican Republic before 2010(for example is a father who Hatian and mother is Dominican or vice versa)
@@darwinqpenaflorida3797 Bad example. Nobody is talking about someone who is half Dominican.
@@darwinqpenaflorida3797 if you are born of two illegal parents, then you are never Dominican. If you have one parent who is Dominican, then by law, you have Dominican citizenship.
@@lucyd3750 Back then when illegal parents are confirmed as Dominican according to it's constitution in 1929, but in 2010 it was amendment when only Dominicans citizens are sole Citizens and then revoked some
Haitian has to respect dominican constitution, Not other countries care about Haiti right now only dominican republic, Is easy to blades dominican republic when other countries don't do shit to help Haiti. I hope Haiti growing economies. And for all those Haitian who live I USA, Europe and other countries start make business in your on country, like many dominican do. That going to help the economy of Haiti.
Esto es un vil montaje totalmente desfazado, mezclando hechos no conexos., con la deliberada intencion de desacreditar las acciones a favor de los haitianos que se han llevado a cabo durante los ultimos 18 meses.
Disturbing we all
Have african blood
We know that. We all know that. The race card is getting old.
Who cares.........???????......nobody
I do
Deport
y según con lo que dice su constitucion ellos son haitianos aunque hayan nacido en china , usa o tu país y si de verdad quieres ver caos y ataques raciales y abusos ve a las bahamas donde alli si son atacados!
Listen to this lady about that they all were born in the DR. Speak the truth lady. They can even speak Spanish proper. I have lots of Haitian friends who are born in DR and speak perfectly. if anyone is interested leave us with the ones whom are already legalized and take the rest to your countries to help them also the way we have and don't comment when you don't know facts of what is really going on there
They were given a year to do that, we only asked them to bring a hatian ID/passport/Birth Certificate. Anyways it is a sad situation.
Update?
10 kids
From what i herd the Drp Is not a place you want to live..
Delious07 thank you
It's not, I think Dominican republic mad about that 23 years of occupation Haiti swipe on they face
Plus Dominican republic only good for 3things assassin's thieves and prostitution
And Dominicans over there in Haiti selling ass, the population of Dominicans prostitution in Haiti is crazy
That's so sad :( 😔😓
God please help all the poor countries and stop racism for once 😔. #L'unionFaitLaForce
Dios no esta en eso