Sir, I must thank you immensely. I watched this video twice, then I went out for 2 hrs-ish. People stopping to talk to see what I'm doing and me giving them some fly fishing info and what not. I spent a lot of it casting improperly, trying to hone in on what you said you do in this video. It finally all clicked and I started shooting line that laid out nicely. Cortland long belly 10wt line. So not super heavy, kinda light, gonna try it with my royal wulff triangle taper spey line sometime this week. If it goes well with that, I'll probably spring for the overhead distance lines from gaelforce. Thank you so much for helping me enjoy using a rod that is way too much for most of my rivers here in Michigan😂 but I love long belly casting. And now I will enjoy it exponentially more. Thank you
Thanks Very much! That totally makes my day. Im really happy to know that my video made a difference in your casting the long line! I'm like you, most of my actual fishing is done with shorter lines but I love the long belly casting. I too practice in a public place where people like to watch and say hi. So I'm sure your friends that stop to visit enjoy watching the long line go out! Tight lines and thanks so much! Tim
@@LineSpeedJediTimRawlins can you cast long belly lines into the wind? Idk if it's the royal wulff line being for delicate landing or just long belly lines in general are crap on a windy day. Besides maybe comp line
The key is to have loose wrists just when feeling the line pull, so you can feel and dampen it smoothly before the forward cast. With old school sage rpls, you simply overload the tip if you arent wrist loose. Then when you get it you are ready for the disco, or wife, whatever😊 Then when you get to a modern rod the mechanics of the older rod makes you much better caster as memory sticks.
I am using the oldies from Sage rpl 10 foot 5 wt and 12,6 9 wt. Both have soft tops and shine as fishing rods. Abhors wind and brutal technique. I like that it keeps my temper in check...I need to feel more and makes me a better caster. I never really figure out these rods, which makes it interesting. Even the single hander speys like a dream, even better speying than overhead...thats unusual.
The trick is to have the wrist completely relaxed when you wait for the pull of the line, then stop it smooth following in a drift, then start the forward cast. With the rpl rod you simply cant cast well without a loose wrist, as the weak top will then overload with a bit if line out. You need to be loose in the whole arm and body, then you are ready for wife and disco😊
Was wondering if you can get your hands on a Windcutter and show us what that's all about. Maxcatch and Aventik sell them for 20 bucks. I like their skagit heads and Maxcatch has a 123ft WF spey line out now. Anyways, interested in trying a Windcutter but can't find a video of one in action and with a review.
I dont recomend the longer lines at this point. much too light and long if I remember correctly. maybe you could buy the heaviest model and chop it down to size. its a crapshoot.
Is there an advantage to using a rood like a Gaelforce over a scandi rod like a Loop rod in casting mid-belly and long belley lines? Is a Gaelforce a slower action than a scandi rod? Is there an advantage in using a slower rod in casting mid and long belly line? Thanks for your videos and your help.
Thanks for the question. I think the longer Gaelforce rods have an advantage in casting longer lines. They do have strong tip sections and the flex seems very even. They are firm and not flimsy. I think the strong tip helps distribute the flex throughout the entire rod. My favorite Scandi rod is the Guideline Lecie and it is fairly stiff with a little softness in the tip. The advantage with it is that I can line it very light and it will still cast off the tip. But I can also line it with somewhat of a longer line, nothing crazy, and it does a nice job of casting it out. I would not say the Gaelforce is soft. I find softer rods more difficult for touch and go casting with longer lines. Firm fairly fast action rods that don't over bend provide more feedback for me and I can feel the weight of the line as it bends the tip immediately and it makes touch and go casting much easier. So a Loop rod may do a fine job of casting a longer line depending on the model, but you will probably find that the Gaelforce is a firm powerful rod and may even feel a tad stiffer than you might have thought. Holler if I can answer any specifics about rod and line combos you are considering. Tim
Sir, I must thank you immensely. I watched this video twice, then I went out for 2 hrs-ish. People stopping to talk to see what I'm doing and me giving them some fly fishing info and what not. I spent a lot of it casting improperly, trying to hone in on what you said you do in this video. It finally all clicked and I started shooting line that laid out nicely. Cortland long belly 10wt line. So not super heavy, kinda light, gonna try it with my royal wulff triangle taper spey line sometime this week. If it goes well with that, I'll probably spring for the overhead distance lines from gaelforce. Thank you so much for helping me enjoy using a rod that is way too much for most of my rivers here in Michigan😂 but I love long belly casting. And now I will enjoy it exponentially more. Thank you
Thanks Very much! That totally makes my day. Im really happy to know that my video made a difference in your casting the long line! I'm like you, most of my actual fishing is done with shorter lines but I love the long belly casting. I too practice in a public place where people like to watch and say hi. So I'm sure your friends that stop to visit enjoy watching the long line go out! Tight lines and thanks so much! Tim
@@LineSpeedJediTimRawlins can you cast long belly lines into the wind? Idk if it's the royal wulff line being for delicate landing or just long belly lines in general are crap on a windy day. Besides maybe comp line
The key is to have loose wrists just when feeling the line pull, so you can feel and dampen it smoothly before the forward cast. With old school sage rpls, you simply overload the tip if you arent wrist loose. Then when you get it you are ready for the disco, or wife, whatever😊 Then when you get to a modern rod the mechanics of the older rod makes you much better caster as memory sticks.
Good tip! Thanks for sharing!
I am using the oldies from Sage rpl 10 foot 5 wt and 12,6 9 wt. Both have soft tops and shine as fishing rods. Abhors wind and brutal technique. I like that it keeps my temper in check...I need to feel more and makes me a better caster. I never really figure out these rods, which makes it interesting. Even the single hander speys like a dream, even better speying than overhead...thats unusual.
Interesting! Thanks for the input!
The trick is to have the wrist completely relaxed when you wait for the pull of the line, then stop it smooth following in a drift, then start the forward cast. With the rpl rod you simply cant cast well without a loose wrist, as the weak top will then overload with a bit if line out. You need to be loose in the whole arm and body, then you are ready for wife and disco😊
Was wondering if you can get your hands on a Windcutter and show us what that's all about. Maxcatch and Aventik sell them for 20 bucks. I like their skagit heads and Maxcatch has a 123ft WF spey line out now. Anyways, interested in trying a Windcutter but can't find a video of one in action and with a review.
I dont recomend the longer lines at this point. much too light and long if I remember correctly. maybe you could buy the heaviest model and chop it down to size. its a crapshoot.
I pretend there's a high fence i cast over. In motorcycle racing " smooth is fast" . In boxing " relaxed is deadly"
Good stuff , thanks!
@LineSpeedJediTimRawlins sorry for the poor spelling, it's auto correct 🫣
Is there an advantage to using a rood like a Gaelforce over a scandi rod like a Loop rod in casting mid-belly and long belley lines? Is a Gaelforce a slower action than a scandi rod? Is there an advantage in using a slower rod in casting mid and long belly line? Thanks for your videos and your help.
Thanks for the question. I think the longer Gaelforce rods have an advantage in casting longer lines. They do have strong tip sections and the flex seems very even. They are firm and not flimsy. I think the strong tip helps distribute the flex throughout the entire rod. My favorite Scandi rod is the Guideline Lecie and it is fairly stiff with a little softness in the tip. The advantage with it is that I can line it very light and it will still cast off the tip. But I can also line it with somewhat of a longer line, nothing crazy, and it does a nice job of casting it out. I would not say the Gaelforce is soft. I find softer rods more difficult for touch and go casting with longer lines. Firm fairly fast action rods that don't over bend provide more feedback for me and I can feel the weight of the line as it bends the tip immediately and it makes touch and go casting much easier. So a Loop rod may do a fine job of casting a longer line depending on the model, but you will probably find that the Gaelforce is a firm powerful rod and may even feel a tad stiffer than you might have thought. Holler if I can answer any specifics about rod and line combos you are considering. Tim
Thanks so much Tim. I looked for the Peter Morris RUclips video but couldn't find it. Do you have a link? Thanks.