bill simmons is still underrated as a basketball guy slash analyst... he can give a scope of the game from a fans perspective. plus he understands CHEMISTRY and knows how to invite the RIGHT people for the right pod, whatever the subject he wants to handle. big ups boss! (don't get fired again) greets, johannes
***** hmmm... good points. i agree with everything except for the last one: "...only bouncing and throwing a ball". that's like saying - for example - that staying alive is only a question of 'breathing' :P what i wanted to say is that reducing a complex process, to it's basic mechanics doesn't always work. basketball (like many sports) is not simple, and it's no coincidence that i've met quiet a few VERY intelligent jocks. greets, johannes
Agreed. If you don't have a top-5 wing defender a la Tony Allen, Kahwi Leonard, Paul George, etc... you are royally screwed against top contenders in the playoffs. If you want to slow down a LeBron/KD/Steph, that's your only way to do it or they will drop 40 a night on you for the entire series.
From now on, whenever anything bad happens, I'm going to blame the James Harden trade. Stub your toe? Curse you, Presti! Catch a cold? If only the Thunder hadn't traded Harden!
They need to bring back the old clairvoyant Bill graphic. Creepy blank stares and a hanging jaw is legit funny in a way that a turban and sunglasses combo cannot hope to match.
Davis is a big version of an Oscar Robertson. Because of their difference in size and position, Davis has an increase in blocks and a decrease in assists. Had he not had that grow spurt late in his teens, he would be the carbon copy of Oscar.
To me Anthony Davis is like KG but with Duncan's calm on court demenour. Why does the media keep acting like they haven't seen this player before? They have: his name is KG!
everyone predicted this and that...the lakers 2004 team with payton malone didnt do nothing...the 2012 super team with howard nash kobe gasol artest fell apart in 1 year...the rockets with harden howard parsons didn't do shit either...the celtics big 3 in 2008...they went 7 games to an 8th seed...and played more playoff games than any team ever to win the title...at least 6 in every round...really bad road record..everyone predicted the next year they would repeat they never got 2 even with rondo emerging as a 4th star and they were 39-4 the next year before kg got hurt...the heat in 2011...they started 9-8 and had injuries and lebron wet the bed in the finals...they didnt win right away...the cavs in 2015...they were terrible but because the east was so hurt they got in.....this year a 73-9 team they cant be beat up 3-1 best team ever bla bla bla.. they choked too...curry had the biggest choke in sports history.....my point is the cavs and the spurs can still beat the dubs in a 7 game series for next season...chemistry matters...its not gonna be a 98-0 season.....no team is unbeatable...anyone who thinks injuries and bad team play aka defense sacrifice wont hurt klay curry and iggy green are out of their damn minds....kd needs the ball and that team on defense will be a joke....that teams flaw is if you can get kd or curry in foul trouble or in 1 on one situations...its over...they have many flaws and in reality they have maybe 3 guys who can get you 10 points ...its gonna be a mess....i see kd and curry leaving next year....i cant wait until this trainwreck happens...i would love them to lose to the spurs...
Michigan basketball men know there is life after basketball. Joe Dumars champion GM. Isaiah Thomas business man and innovator behind the d-league. John Salley various TV jobs. Bill Laimbeer WNBA champion coach. And now Jalen Rose...
True. But i am very confident that he will learn to play that way.Last year,he had a whole different role in the team. He has all that is needed for a great PG, he will blossom as a PG at some point in the saison
he will, he is one of my favs in the league considering how passionately he plays the game, just like a fan of one. His growth will turn him into a great PG one day.
Damn, Simmons is creaming himself over the Lakers. Meanwhile, the Celtics have more franchise guys dead from dope (2) than titles (1) in the last 29 years. But that's none of my business.
the reason they didnt dominate the late 80's early 90's was cause of len bias dying....he was the next lebron....if they added him to the already legendary best team ever 86 celtics?...man they would have won until the mid 90's...bird would be looked at better cause he could play longer and be a sidekick and mj isahai and magic wouldnt be looked at as all time greats....len bias may have been the mj of the 90's.....seriously...kareem would be given more credit for those early titles in LA...magic wasnt the lakers best player until 1987....
Like Dave Chappelle said "I've done commercials for Coke and Pepsi. I don't give a fuck what comes out of my mouth. I say what it takes. Whatever it takes, thats what I'm saying. If you wanna know the truth, cant even taste the difference. Surprise! All I know is, Pepsi paid me most recently so... it tastes better."
Bledsoe is a true passing PG, that right now is a better fit for the Cavs than Irving, because both Love and Lebron are better attackers than Irving, and they need to move the ball way more (0 assists in a game where you have LBJ and Love, being a PG is unacceptable) ; Irving probably will be a better overall player so phoenix would be better of. It makes sense for both teams in the short term.
WTF is Jalen smoking? Marbury and Francis DID have Hall of Fame teammates: Kevin Garnett and Dwight Howard. They made the conscious choice to forgo winning and chase the check. You can't blame them, but Bill's comparison is spot on
Jeff Green for Amir Johnson? I do agree that keeping Patterson is key, his shooting helps spread the floor but he's not that big of a factor on defense. You'd sacrifice some defense and rebounding up front to get some more firepower and defense at small forward as Green is not ideal as a four-man.
ConcaCon Oh I never said ideal, but I would still take him over Amir. I'd much prefer a small forward like MKG or another semi-unproven player with upside, but in the case of what was mentionned, again, I'd take Jeff Green over Amir
Paul Daly Aint Amir Johnson more of a 4 and a solid rebounder? Really not sure though cause havent watched enough Raptors games lately. Agree with you on MKG if you get MKG damn that 2nd unit will have the best motor in the NBA maybe only close to rival you guys is the Mavs in bench
vivilakers Yes, he is. Over the years, he's turned from a foul machine into a pretty productive defensive player on a per-minute-basis, actually. Just not much of a factor offensively.
***** He is. I like watching him crash the boards. What I meant by the offensive factor was the fact that despite his increased amount of attempted outside shots, the efficiency is not there, yet. I remember when he came from the Pistons to the Raps and I thought "what do they want with him?" Turns out they knew what they had. I remember Rasheed Wallace liked his potential when they were teammates.
Marbury played with KG for a couple years when he came into the league and Francis was washed by the time he was playing with a developed Yao. Neither of these guys were in their prime when playing with such studs.
The media insistence on slotting OKC into exactly the 8th spot is really weird. They could get 9th. They could get 6th. Why are we picking the 8th seed and all three guys basically say "OKC"? How about OKC in 7th, Dallas in 8th? How about OKC in 9th, Phoenix in 6th, and Portland in 8th? It's a long season.
They talk about the 8th seed because there isn't a 9th seed. The West was so stacked last year that a rather nice 48 win Suns team missed the playoffs. It's hard to front like the 6th seed is realistic under such circumstances.
Issy Wise you said jalen drove you from the podcast I can't see how I wanna say it must be a color thing but Jacobi is colorless like bill but Simmons is corny he just really knows basketball but jalen definitely makes the show
This crowd had no idea what they were watching. No response to the bad news section?? I hope they don't change up the segments just because of their poor reactions.
Rodrigo Alvarado I'm saying their "prediction" is pretty easy to do when you have like a 50/50, and then there are also teams like Sixers and Lakers you can eliminate.
These boys need to get it right the thunder have 2 of the top 5 players in the leage not 2 of the top 10 KD is 2 and I think Russ is 3rd to be honest I'll take westbrook over cp3 anyday cause come playoff time nobody is stopping russell westbrook if they get the 8th and clippers the 1st clippers is getting out no question fresh legs
sure... Is just weird. I bet when Bill does a podcast he doesn't dress up so why do it here ? Who's he trying to impress. People who are interested in the things he says and does don't care if he's wearing a t-shirt.
armin38822 why are you complaining? its part of the show. it's widely liked and enjoyed. sorry if you don't think its perfect and have to find the flaws in it.
bro . anyone who thinks the thunder are gonna make the playoffs are fucking delusional ! there is no way u lose two of the top players in the league for an extended amount of time and make the playoffs in the WESTERN conference they are going to get skinned alive in that beast of a conference .
LOL Bill is loving the fact that the Lakers won't make the playoffs this season. But he conveniently forgets that his Celtics only have 1 more win than the Lakers. I know he identifies himself as a homer, but his Lakers hate is getting exhausting. The Lakers will always be a better franchise than the Celtics. They have a legendary front office and they actually have respect for nostalgia and the legacies of their players. The Celtics, meanwhile, trade away all their "star free agent" acquisitions to rebuild, when they haven't been relevant in half a decade. They did Pierce dirty. Boston is one of the worst sports towns in America.
I miss these guys together. Also, this is so much fun to watch 2 years later, knowing how everything turned out.
I pray they come back together and do a show like this again
bill simmons is still underrated as a basketball guy slash analyst... he can give a scope of the game from a fans perspective. plus he understands CHEMISTRY and knows how to invite the RIGHT people for the right pod, whatever the subject he wants to handle. big ups boss! (don't get fired again) greets, johannes
***** hmmm... good points. i agree with everything except for the last one: "...only bouncing and throwing a ball". that's like saying - for example - that staying alive is only a question of 'breathing' :P
what i wanted to say is that reducing a complex process, to it's basic mechanics doesn't always work. basketball (like many sports) is not simple, and it's no coincidence that i've met quiet a few VERY intelligent jocks.
greets, johannes
i want that picture of red with the lit up cigar. that shit is FUCKING AMAZING
"Not gonna be able to do it!" is my favorite things Jalen yells.
Big thanks for uploading
thank you for sharing with all of us cable cutters!
Memphis should not trade Tony Allen. His wing defense is amazing man. He could lock up KD, that is rare to find.
Agreed. If you don't have a top-5 wing defender a la Tony Allen, Kahwi Leonard, Paul George, etc... you are royally screwed against top contenders in the playoffs. If you want to slow down a LeBron/KD/Steph, that's your only way to do it or they will drop 40 a night on you for the entire series.
i can't thank you enough, good guy uploader.
From now on, whenever anything bad happens, I'm going to blame the James Harden trade.
Stub your toe? Curse you, Presti!
Catch a cold? If only the Thunder hadn't traded Harden!
Either that or the Based God.
You deserve a medal for uploading this
Thanks a lot for uploading this man.
It's sad how Kobe's career will end. I always hated the Lakers but I always had great respect for Kobe.
***** Your grammatical structure "tells much" about your intelligence.
***** my moms actually puerto rican though. get it right.
***** oh true. i didn't bother reading it in detail. you seem to have more free time than i.
end like what? this would of been his whole career if he kept his ass in charlotte
***** i've lost interest in this weak trolling. usually you guys are good for more of a laugh then this but nah. peace brah
Such a great show. Thanks for the upload.
Thanks for posting Legend. Interesting (and it also sucks a bit) that Jalen's "keeping it 100" didn't make it to TV.
THIS IS WHAT "ANY GIVEN WEDNESDAY" SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
"We got to give the PEEEEOOOOOOPLE...
GIVE THE PEEEOPLE WANT THEY WAAANT!!!"
I need this!!!
jalen jokes aren't hitting the audience but I'm laughing hard lol
THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!1
They need to bring back the old clairvoyant Bill graphic. Creepy blank stares and a hanging jaw is legit funny in a way that a turban and sunglasses combo cannot hope to match.
Davis is a big version of an Oscar Robertson. Because of their difference in size and position, Davis has an increase in blocks and a decrease in assists. Had he not had that grow spurt late in his teens, he would be the carbon copy of Oscar.
im a huge zach lowe fan. Love these
I'm lovin the Bucks poster in the background
Bumping Gang Starr that is soooo dope
so sick they used mass appeal! thanks for uploading #givethepeoplewhattheywant
Thanks for the pacers shoutout, but in Indiana we know the benefits of tanking. Please Reference our current qb.
Top lel at the intro for Bad news Bill and Jalen going off just as Ramona is talking about Jerry Buss dying.
Did not know that picture on the wall was animated! haha
Great use of Gangstarr's "Mass Appeal". Happy to hear that
Anyone else think it was really awkward when the Bad News Bill And Jalen segment started after talking about the dead Jim Buss?
nice background much respect
Love the Gang Starr Intro
Where did Lowe rent that outfit? I'm looking for something similar.
Jalen where the f@#k is ur bat? Lol, got to love this dude, best analyst ever
Episode 3? 19/12/14
Thank you!
" Its not tanking... what is it? Playoff - anking?"
Planking.
Dude are you going to post more of this?
how come i can't find this in their grantland channel
bill does not know how to help pop the trunk. pour one out for jacoby.
Starting with MASS APPEAL - Classic!!!!!!!!!!
god bless you
so are you guys not going to finish those segments on the nba team rankings?
Anybody know when is the next episode
why didn't they put wall, bledsoe, and davis on the all-kentucky team?
To me Anthony Davis is like KG but with Duncan's calm on court demenour. Why does the media keep acting like they haven't seen this player before? They have: his name is KG!
5 years later and this is a very accurate description of AD
And then it happened... kd's revenge
everyone predicted this and that...the lakers 2004 team with payton malone didnt do nothing...the 2012 super team with howard nash kobe gasol artest fell apart in 1 year...the rockets with harden howard parsons didn't do shit either...the celtics big 3 in 2008...they went 7 games to an 8th seed...and played more playoff games than any team ever to win the title...at least 6 in every round...really bad road record..everyone predicted the next year they would repeat they never got 2 even with rondo emerging as a 4th star and they were 39-4 the next year before kg got hurt...the heat in 2011...they started 9-8 and had injuries and lebron wet the bed in the finals...they didnt win right away...the cavs in 2015...they were terrible but because the east was so hurt they got in.....this year a 73-9 team they cant be beat up 3-1 best team ever bla bla bla.. they choked too...curry had the biggest choke in sports history.....my point is the cavs and the spurs can still beat the dubs in a 7 game series for next season...chemistry matters...its not gonna be a 98-0 season.....no team is unbeatable...anyone who thinks injuries and bad team play aka defense sacrifice wont hurt klay curry and iggy green are out of their damn minds....kd needs the ball and that team on defense will be a joke....that teams flaw is if you can get kd or curry in foul trouble or in 1 on one situations...its over...they have many flaws and in reality they have maybe 3 guys who can get you 10 points ...its gonna be a mess....i see kd and curry leaving next year....i cant wait until this trainwreck happens...i would love them to lose to the spurs...
31:23 Clairvoyant Bill's hat trying to say something back there? ;)
I thought this show would be something more. It's the same stuff all the other shows talk about. Lebron, Kobe, lakers, knicks.
did they neuter the crowd? I want crowd noise back
Michigan basketball men know there is life after basketball. Joe Dumars champion GM. Isaiah Thomas business man and innovator behind the d-league. John Salley various TV jobs. Bill Laimbeer WNBA champion coach. And now Jalen Rose...
funny how Bill didn't like the shots being thrown at the Celtics but he was the main one throwing those same shots at the Lakers smh
YES BILL. Irving only made the all star team due to other great pgs getting injured. Hes a joke not a pg hes a sg
He is not an SG lol, he is a PG, but a very immature one.
immature cuz he does not really know the duty as a PG yet. He will take time till he really plays like one.
True. But i am very confident that he will learn to play that way.Last year,he had a whole different role in the team. He has all that is needed for a great PG, he will blossom as a PG at some point in the saison
he will, he is one of my favs in the league considering how passionately he plays the game, just like a fan of one. His growth will turn him into a great PG one day.
Damn, Simmons is creaming himself over the Lakers. Meanwhile, the Celtics have more franchise guys dead from dope (2) than titles (1) in the last 29 years. But that's none of my business.
that was weak man.
the reason they didnt dominate the late 80's early 90's was cause of len bias dying....he was the next lebron....if they added him to the already legendary best team ever 86 celtics?...man they would have won until the mid 90's...bird would be looked at better cause he could play longer and be a sidekick and mj isahai and magic wouldnt be looked at as all time greats....len bias may have been the mj of the 90's.....seriously...kareem would be given more credit for those early titles in LA...magic wasnt the lakers best player until 1987....
Manu Ginobilis Bald Spot Anthony Davis going to Lakers
Can you upload episode 4??
Do you think Stamps.com has a problem with this being brought to you by the US Postal Service? lol
Like Dave Chappelle said "I've done commercials for Coke and Pepsi. I don't give a fuck what comes out of my mouth. I say what it takes. Whatever it takes, thats what I'm saying. If you wanna know the truth, cant even taste the difference. Surprise! All I know is, Pepsi paid me most recently so... it tastes better."
CORRECTION: Kobe was drafted by the Hornets (33:07)
Why does Jalen think Pheonix would trade Bledsoe for Irving? There's no way I would make that deal.
it's weird I've heard that trade rumoured on a few sites. Makes no sense to me for both teams.
Bledsoe is a true passing PG, that right now is a better fit for the Cavs than Irving, because both Love and Lebron are better attackers than Irving, and they need to move the ball way more (0 assists in a game where you have LBJ and Love, being a PG is unacceptable) ; Irving probably will be a better overall player so phoenix would be better of.
It makes sense for both teams in the short term.
Looking back now thank the Bball gods Jalen isn't running the Cavs...
damn 2 years later this might actually happen.
Sixers should really sign Jalen. Why the hell not?
Clippers will trade for Jeff Green , Wilson Chandler or suprise , Josh Smith .
They need a wing shooter and defender. No, please no,
Nate Phillips
afflalo
A Davis going to Lakers.
jalen stole my jacket
Why did they Change everything from the Podcast wasn't the same show.
um... memphis did it last year what okc might have to do... they were 15-19, and then went 35-13
It's hilarious to see teams in any of the top NA sports, throwing the top spot like it's a hot potato because they are terrified of the 8th seed.
WTF is Jalen smoking? Marbury and Francis DID have Hall of Fame teammates: Kevin Garnett and Dwight Howard. They made the conscious choice to forgo winning and chase the check. You can't blame them, but Bill's comparison is spot on
BOOOOOGGGGGIEEEEE!!!!
As a raps fan, id take Jeff Green. Unfortunately we'd lost Amir Johnson, but keeping Patterson is better for us at the 4 spot
Jeff Green for Amir Johnson? I do agree that keeping Patterson is key, his shooting helps spread the floor but he's not that big of a factor on defense. You'd sacrifice some defense and rebounding up front to get some more firepower and defense at small forward as Green is not ideal as a four-man.
ConcaCon Oh I never said ideal, but I would still take him over Amir. I'd much prefer a small forward like MKG or another semi-unproven player with upside, but in the case of what was mentionned, again, I'd take Jeff Green over Amir
Paul Daly Aint Amir Johnson more of a 4 and a solid rebounder? Really not sure though cause havent watched enough Raptors games lately. Agree with you on MKG if you get MKG damn that 2nd unit will have the best motor in the NBA maybe only close to rival you guys is the Mavs in bench
vivilakers Yes, he is. Over the years, he's turned from a foul machine into a pretty productive defensive player on a per-minute-basis, actually. Just not much of a factor offensively.
***** He is. I like watching him crash the boards. What I meant by the offensive factor was the fact that despite his increased amount of attempted outside shots, the efficiency is not there, yet. I remember when he came from the Pistons to the Raps and I thought "what do they want with him?" Turns out they knew what they had. I remember Rasheed Wallace liked his potential when they were teammates.
whats that song in the beginning while their introing
mass appeal - gang starr
So Jalen just ignores that Marbury played with that guy KEVIN GARNETT and a young Amare who was a beast. Francis played with Yao.
Marbury played with KG for a couple years when he came into the league and Francis was washed by the time he was playing with a developed Yao. Neither of these guys were in their prime when playing with such studs.
anybody notice the cigar smoke off Red?
The media insistence on slotting OKC into exactly the 8th spot is really weird. They could get 9th. They could get 6th. Why are we picking the 8th seed and all three guys basically say "OKC"? How about OKC in 7th, Dallas in 8th? How about OKC in 9th, Phoenix in 6th, and Portland in 8th? It's a long season.
because most likley they get 8th
They talk about the 8th seed because there isn't a 9th seed. The West was so stacked last year that a rather nice 48 win Suns team missed the playoffs. It's hard to front like the 6th seed is realistic under such circumstances.
I hope they do get 9th. They've had some bad luck the past few years and the spurs can't beat a healthy okc squad.
Jalen, I thought it was the city of palm trees, bad bitches and wannabees. On second thought, that would be long beach. Never mind.
spurs been in it for the long hall!
Where can i find ep 3???
Where is Ep. 3 and 4?
Anyone else find the studio audience kind of awkward? I wish they would have kept Bill and Jalen's basketball countdown.
GANG STARR MASS APPEAL
Wow. Shelburne is an amazing reporter. But holy shit do the ESPN pictures of authors show a markedly thinner photo of her. Yikes.
Agreed, but that thankfully doesn't take away too much, I think.
Issy Wise you said jalen drove you from the podcast I can't see how I wanna say it must be a color thing but Jacobi is colorless like bill but Simmons is corny he just really knows basketball but jalen definitely makes the show
No way memphis is trading the Grindfather... Especially to LAC
This crowd had no idea what they were watching. No response to the bad news section?? I hope they don't change up the segments just because of their poor reactions.
Memphis in the WCF
Westbrook's back next month and KD the month after. Plenty of time to turn it around and make the playoffs.
I don't think the Suns or the Pelicans can consistently beat the Kings. I gotta pick them as the 8th of the West.
if you give J Cross to the Grizz its OVER, pencil them into the WCF
i like the warriors too
kelly oubre was once considered a top 2 prospect? oof.
You know, 13 teams is basically like half the freakin teams, so it's really not saying much...
That is the point. On a normal season, there are no more than 4 or 5 teams that you can clearly see.
Rodrigo Alvarado I'm saying their "prediction" is pretty easy to do when you have like a 50/50, and then there are also teams like Sixers and Lakers you can eliminate.
I want Jacoby :(
These boys need to get it right the thunder have 2 of the top 5 players in the leage not 2 of the top 10 KD is 2 and I think Russ is 3rd to be honest I'll take westbrook over cp3 anyday cause come playoff time nobody is stopping russell westbrook if they get the 8th and clippers the 1st clippers is getting out no question fresh legs
29:50 bahaha
I will never understand why people have to dress up just to talk about basketball.
sure... Is just weird. I bet when Bill does a podcast he doesn't dress up so why do it here ? Who's he trying to impress. People who are interested in the things he says and does don't care if he's wearing a t-shirt.
armin38822 why are you complaining? its part of the show. it's widely liked and enjoyed. sorry if you don't think its perfect and have to find the flaws in it.
Jerheme Urban is not a flaw at all.
Should be Jalen n Jacob
GIT LOOOOOOWWWWWWWEEEEEEE
bro . anyone who thinks the thunder are gonna make the playoffs are fucking delusional ! there is no way u lose two of the top players in the league for an extended amount of time and make the playoffs in the WESTERN conference they are going to get skinned alive in that beast of a conference .
basketball hour? hah! more like basketball 40 minutes
Because they cut out the commercials in this video..............?
20:11
Sage Steele - 1
Whinin' Willy Simmons - 0
LOL Bill is loving the fact that the Lakers won't make the playoffs this season. But he conveniently forgets that his Celtics only have 1 more win than the Lakers. I know he identifies himself as a homer, but his Lakers hate is getting exhausting. The Lakers will always be a better franchise than the Celtics. They have a legendary front office and they actually have respect for nostalgia and the legacies of their players. The Celtics, meanwhile, trade away all their "star free agent" acquisitions to rebuild, when they haven't been relevant in half a decade. They did Pierce dirty. Boston is one of the worst sports towns in America.
Romana sure does like to repeat herself over and over again.