Four Abandoned Railways in One Location. The Caldon Story.
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2021
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This week we are joined by @MartinZero where we explore the Caldon Low Tramroads spanning a history from 1776 to 1847 with four different evolutions of the early railway. We discuss how the development of the railway here wasn't first seen by the canal builders of the time.
There was so much to see here, sadly we probably only scratched the surface, but enough to give us a taste for the lost railway infrastructure that really optimised the changing of the railways and their evolution over the years.
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Paul, Rebecca AND Martin - the Dream Team!
Is the other end of the tunnel muddy as well?
Ah bless the old lady and her excitement over the invention of electricity and the Pill 🤣
Funny thing is, the washing machine was more liberating for women than the pill!
I enjoyed this very much as for my 21st Birthday I turned up in my Renault 4, (HNG 149D), at Leek Brook Juction SB to see if anything was moving. I got into the lovely fully fuctioning SB and then a Class 24 with empties turned up to go to Caldon Low Quarry. As a self respecting Gricer I blagged my way onto the brake van and hitched a round trip to the quarry. A beautiful journey and I took photos which I still have - somewhere! I also went to Leek station (now a supermarket) and took photos. The daily parcels was in the yard but no loco. This was a birthday to remember.
Can you imagine how successful a discovery show with you and Martin would be . It would be a instant success
I assume Rebecca's choice of skirt colour was intended to make it absolutely clear she wasn't climbing down into any muddy cuttings? :-)
"Muddy Cuttings" sounds like it should be the name of a television show town and the name of the show.
@@scottfw7169 or a blues band
@@piearm1271 Hey, there ya go!
Paul, Rebecca, and Martin - you did a great job sorting out this railway story. Very interesting!
Thanks Nigel
@@pwhitewick Your videos are always quality + (importantly!) not too long! Some RUclipsrs have vids of 1 hour and there was a 1 hour 45 min one that I encountered. Seeing as I watch on a small screen on my phone, I wasn't interested! Short is good, long bad!
I am the last person to find anything 'railwayish' interesting, but here i am back for more. Even subbed!!! Keep them coming!!
Have walked these a number of times - it is a very interesting area. Lots more abandoned industrial things to see in the nearby countryside too.
When they connected the Lancaster canal to the Leeds Liverpool in Preston it was with a tramway for the last few miles as they had run out of money. Most of the trackbed still remains and there is some actual track and wheels in the Harris museum pulled from the river at "The old tram bridge" as it's called.
I love that you both uploaded these videos at the same time. I've got my pizza ordered, and I'm going to have a great Sunday evening!
Top team - the Whitewicks and Martin Zero. I have opened a bottle of wine to accompany both videos
Nice to see you in our neck of the woods. The canal and the railway continue through froghall, Oakamoor Alton denstone and we have one of the longest platforms in the country. Lost more to explore please come back.
That lady was great. I was expecting some comment about trains being one of the greatest inventions. Electricity and the pill! So much better. Thanks for including that.
You and me both!
Great vid, big fan of Martin too, good to see you on a jaunt with him! Hope to see more colabs with him.
Yes I did enjoy. Hi to Rebecca and Martin Zero. The lady you interviewed is a hoot. Thank you.
More Rebecca please!!! Give her the mic!
She gets better all the time 🔥🔥🔥
That was flippin brilliant, thanks for showing us that amazing place important too in terms of railway history.
As per usual, excellent stuff! Well documented, detailed, informative, and entertaining!
absolutely riveting content as always - nice to see Martin as well
hi paul rebecca and martin , another cool interesting video, rebecca looks great as always , omg that old women's parting words lmao , well done and thank you guys :)
She had a million philosophies!
TY, always enjoy the journey back in time with you. Looking lovely Rebecca!
Another great video and in terms of depth they go from strength to strength. These walks and the historical content that is explained would make an excellent book.
What a fascinating exploration of the early phases of rail transportation, brought together by an earlier mode of transport - the Caldon canal. Very enjoyable. Thank's to you both and to Martin.
A very interesting video,
Nice to see that some features still remain.
Great to see you teamed up with Martin...😀👍
Great to see you covering some of my neck of the woods! The churnet valley and the cauldon tramway's history is fascinating!
Nice video, Watched your version and Martins, nice to see you all getting about, love the banter too, thanks again for tonight's entertainment. Chris
Nice to see the three of you together. A great video with a fascinating look at tramway evolution over a period of nearly 70 years, which shows the incredible development of early railway design and construction. Well done!
beautiful opening, you really know how to draw us in with the teasers: gotta watch the full video to get the context of it all and keep us interested 🙂
and nice collaboration with Martin, your two videos are different yet share the same enthusiasm
Fantastic explore. Great to see you collabing again with Martin Zero. Both videos complement each other perfectly. Lots of info to unpack! Cheers.
Another exciting and interesting video - great stuff! Thank you for also reminding us that we did have a few days of summer! 😀
Smokin hot Cool! Great video. I loved this one. Subject really brought to life!!
Really enjoyed that thanks. I so love the stonework in the tunnels. Also love the history. Thanks so much for taking me along. Please stay safe and take care
Really enjoyed that, great to see Martin, how's his post lockdown diet going? Now off to watch Martin's latest, keep up the good work all of you.
Great to see Paul, Rebecca and Martin all in the one video! I love watching your videos. That tunnel was haunting yet beautiful! Another great video!
There is so much industrial archaeology and history in the Froghall area. Once I discovered it I returned several times to explore in different directions. Thanks for this video.
Cheers John. It's an amazing area and I feel we barely scratched the surface
Always enjoy the collaboration with Martin. Can't wait to travel again to the U.K. once we are through these times. For now I will continue to enjoy your videos. Cheers from British Columbia.
This was most interesting. Such lovely country even though it was tough going. Love the incredible brickwork on that last tunnel - looks in excellent condition after so many years. Fascinating how much of the lines remain. Really enjoy your videos. Glad you didn't try entering that tunnel !
Great video, good to see you with Martin again. The tunnel was a great find as it was well hidden. About your food, we call it a batch here in Coventry. See you soon.
Great video! I've walked up a couple of those old railways from the canal basin but I hadn't realised there were 4 of them!
Fascinating! Thanks so much for all the hard work you three put into making this superb video. Historically in my opinion, these tramways need protecting/preserving in some way..
Couldn't agree more
Really interesting thank you for posting. Makes a change to see Martin above ground he's usually underground lol.👍👍
You make a wonderfull team with Martin. Hope to see some more joined videos from you in the future. Thank you for showing us this interesting landscape and old engineering!
Cheers, we certainly have plans.
Interesting choice of clothing from Rebecca
Is a brilliant white skirt the best option
for exploring old tramways and tunnels?
She looked smashing in it.
I think it is amazing the wide variety of beautiful outfits that Rebecca puts together. It is such a joy the way she is able to pull off so many different combinations.
Fashion review of a railway walk. Bwahahahah. You must be Rebecca's dry cleaner. 🤣
@@CathodeRayNipplez
More I am thinking
of her dry cleaning bill
if she slipped in the mud
@@bigdaddysandcastle1614 and @Darryl Darwent
I do not disagree
that the outfit would work
but context is important
This video for me featured a lot of mud
and not enough Rebecca.
I wondered whether this was connected
with the white skirt
making walking through mud difficult.
Great stuff! Brilliant findings.
Thanks for the video lady and gents have seen both totally enjoyed them. Very interesting to see how things changed over the 4 routes would love to and visit this tunnel!!😎🐓🐓🐓🐓🇬🇧
Brilliant video by the three of you.
Early tramways and railways are fascinating.
My late aunt was told that the first railway bridge in Scotland was part of the wall at the end of her garden.
That was the Duke of Portland's Railway from Kilmarnock to Troon, built in 1812.
Brilliant explore, thank you.
Great to see a collab between makers of two of my regular Sunday evening viewing! :-)
Now THAT'S a lot of Transport - all in one place. Excellent. Thanks!
Fascinating history that you obviously have researched very thoroughly....great vid...
Many thanks!
Hello Martin! Great team up!
The designer of the third tramway, John Rennie; Is this the same John Rennie who designed the last but one London Bridge? His name rang a bell when I watched Martin's video, but I couldn't think why.
Great video, thank you very much. Nice one.
p.s. It was actually the bridge before the current one. The current one opened in 1973. I’m sure you know the story of the sale.
One question for you to think about. Where did the Victorians get all the wood needed for the sleepers? Millions & millions of trees would have been needed. Not forgetting some of the infrastructure at the time such as bridges. I´m surprised the price for wood didn´t go through the roof, not forgetting all of Europe soon joined in.
The thing to remember here is that the line was only 5 miles long at best. At the time there wouldn't have be many others like it outside of mines. So 5 miles of track... a small bunch of trees wouldn't have made a dent in the landscape.
This was waaaay before any kind of rail network.
Oh wait.... I type all that, and now wondering if you mean post 1830... the growth of the railways. If that's the case.... no idea. I would guess Scots Pine plantations that kind of thing?
Interesting gauge change at Waterhouses
Great team up 👍 great video
Rebecca looks dressed for town and you guys are dressed for hiking and yet she keeps up with you,,,what a trooper! The color of the water and mud makes me think there is iron in the ground somewhere close by.
You are right. Ironstone was taken down to Shelton steelworks in Stoke for many years from the area.
@@christianwall7181 Thank You.
A very complex system beautifully analysed. Well done, guys!
Thank you kindly!
Another fab film guys. B-roll Becca at her best. 👍🏼
The Context is Staffordshire lol (seriously) brilliant vlog Paul and Rebecca, shame about all that mud which you couldn't get into tunnel. Now to watch Martin Zero's video.
i love all your videos as well , because i´m a huge fan of yours , it gives me some great ideas to build abondoned railways as a miniature diorama or railrway layout , here in the nederlands we have also many aboned railway lines and tramways !!
I saw Martin's video first, I like these collaborations, gives different perspectives on the same things.
A very interesting set of sites.
Pity you couldn't get in the tunnel but as I said on Martin's video, Discretion is definitely the better part of Valour!
I thought this was a brilliant little video! I love the tramways, very informative as well, really enjoyed it cheers.
Many thanks!
Great to see you guys in my nearby neighbourhood. Great deal of railway history in this area due to the extensive mining that took place. Pioneers of railways worked this area. You really should look at the Tissingtone trail between Ashbourne and Buxton. Some of the embankments are breath taking forms of engineering. They are probably the tallest embankments you will ever see. The lines were closed in the mid 60’s
Amazing that so much still remains of a very old set or rail tracks/infrastructure !
Good watch, there are references to trubshaw in the north of Stoke on Trent, trubshaw cross, trubshaw street and a Thomas Trobbeschawe, maybe relevant to your video, there is also a foxfield railway not far away!
Wise word from the lady at the end there too! 😊
My two favourite channels nice crossover!
Your mates T shirt is epic. International rescue
Looks like Martin had had his shredded wheat when this was recorded, another great informative video. Looking forward to next weeks instalment..
He does fly up those steps!!
@@pwhitewick Sugar rush from his donuts?
That was fascinating ..
A very interesting video as usual, shame that the tunnel at the end hasn't been maintained in any way, but fascinating to watch.
Interesting to see your take on it as against Martin's! Both fascinating videos,! Thanks all!
Next place to visit is bugsworth basin and the tramway there x
Oooooh... I will google later.
This area deserves more detail! The juxtaposition of canal, wharf, and four different-aged tramroads is fascinating. Doesn't look to be too much left, unfortunately..
I think there is a few more sights to see but it would probably take a couple of days walking.
@@pwhitewick Is that why you didn't try to go to the other portal?
@@henrybest4057 we had heard that it was just as silted up unfortunately
Little old lady, could you have included more ism's in 3 little words. Fascinating, thank you.
Fascinating. A few years ago I visited the churned valley railway on a gala weekend. They had trains running along the Ibstone line towards Caldon Low Quarry. Was the the last of the four lines?
I put out a video today, on the Caldon canal, from Cheddleton to Froghall. I also go through Froghall tunnel Very nice video BTW. I filmed my video 2 months ago
0:47 already did. I wondered why i got two almost identical thumbnails from two channels :)
What an interesting film. You must do a lot of research Paul for all these explores. Well done. Ha ha ladies comment at the end. Thank you for sharing.
I loved her comment. Our older ladies sometimes say the most unexpected things. My maternal grandmother was a store of dirty jokes XD
I enjoyed that, thank you. Two questions; how long was the tunnel, and why was there a break in the red line of the first tramway?
It wasn’t until about1820-1830 that tramways/railways could, for the first time, carry greater volume than a canal boat. Until then, the canal boat was still the better form of transport. However, at the head of the canal, tramways were much better than horse-drawn road wagons at feeding the canal. That’s why tramways often “fed” canals but didn’t replace them until the concept of the train (as we know it) came along; the steel rail and the Stephenson steam locomotive killed the canal!
The original tracks on wagon or tram ways were cast iron but not flat as such and they were prone to braking due to casting process not being up to scratch
Cheers Michael.
The Tow Law tramway still has pieces of old track which passes over a beautiful bridge. It's a bit of a trip to County Durham.
@@pwhitewick if you ever venture up to County Durham there are plenty of old relics available to look at. Just take Bishop Auckland viaduct now a road. The old still used Tow Law viaduct and all disused gravity pit lines around Hetton to Sunderland Staithes apart from loads of others. M
It's good that the beautiful stonework and other traces of the railways haven't been obliterated by a developer's bulldozer. Fortunately for you in the UK, you aren't as quick to erase history as I see here in the US.
That tunnel sounds like just the place for a drone. Maybe with a leash on it so it doesn't get lost.
Cool video as always :-) , don't fall into that mud !!! and Egg and Cheese i agree :-P
Well done you two with your adventures in to bygone transportation infrastructure..
What a spectacular area to hunt for the remains of the railways! You should consider an RC airboat or hovercraft on which to mount a remote camera. An RC airboat or hovercraft could go over water or slimy mud to get into the tunnels that you have so often been kept out of due to safety concerns. Just a thought.
nice collab
Thanks Chris
I grew up in that area, I walked all 4 routes as a kid many times. The first two are often very difficult to find , even 40 plus years ago. Middle of a hard freeze is the best time. I (think) that the brickwork repair to that early bridge weren't there back then as I seem to remember the bridge was horrendously undercut by the brook.
Well done thanks pity you didn't venture further into the tunnel but you were there and it's easy for me to lament your choices at the time. Keep up the good work. So where to next?
Had we gone in, we would absolutely be putting ourselves at a clear risk of needing help getting out. Rarely is the risk about us as such. You only live once and all that. It's pretty much always... how would I be inconveniencing others that would ultimately be helping me
@@pwhitewick Good point, I wish the visitors to the rocks and hills around here were so considerate the number who attempt a venture ill equipped or prepared is sadly legion.
Very interesting...have you ventured to the Sowerby Bridge to Rishworth line...they're trying to create a cycleway....it is walkable and has fantastic engineering legacy
Great video. Where is the other end to the tunnel? In Martin's video he mentions it is 800 yards long.
Two things worth inventing. Brilliant 😂🤣😂
i couldn't understand the last one
@@lacossanostra The Pill :P
Although it's presented as a sort of amusing last comment on the video, she is quite right that the contrceptive pill had a massive impact on society (I know that wasn't quite her point but still...). Also I think Paul referring to her as 'a little old lady' was a bit condescending, there have been plenty of people to feature in their videos that could be called 'little old men'. Not a serious critisism, I think it was well intentioned.
This shows the magnificent work conducted by the stonemasons.
Martin is great. He's a leg end. 😀
Martins came up then yours , Sunday viewing sorted , if your near Barnsley anytime check out the remains of the silkstone tramway , the blocks they used as sleepers are still in the ground and a replica tramway wagon stands on a plinth in silkstone , at stainborough there is a tramway tunnel in a wood but the entrance is covered by an iron mesh but you can see into it .
This is my favourite canal significantly because it is a good challenge for a full length narrowboat. Interesting staircase to start with ,with, it is said, no bottom in the bottom lock due to subsidence. The top lock has dry dock blocks so has proved very h andy sorting out issues over The years. I did find tramway bridges etc when up in the area looking at the remains of Cotton College.
No bottom in the bottom lock??
@@pwhitewick Severe subsidence around Etruria. I was told this by a dredger captain who worked up that way in the late 70s and early 80s. I almost certainly have photos taken of the top lock emptied
How often do you see snakes on your adventures? In most wooded areas of the U.S. there would be a lot of snakes. Very interesting as usual. Great job!
Extremely rare to see snakes in the UK. Most people have never seen one, especially if you live in an urban location.
I was literally at froghall wharf myself 2 days ago, please tell me you tried Hetty’s tea shop??!
We did. Very tasty
Another winner! Maybe we should buy you some waders so you can venture into tunnels like that? (Oh and....not enough cheese!)
No amount of waders would get me or Martin in there.
@@pwhitewick I meant for Rebecca. She didn't do much in the video!
@@pwhitewick Where's your dedication to the channel Paul???
@@robinhayhurst5943 must have left it in the car
Martin gave Paul a new nickname "waterproof Whitewick" check out his vid! 🤣😁