I'm running Roux with fully packed. This ship is expert at melting destroyers and wrecking broadside cruisers...good ship. Thanks for the review...enjoyed watching!
I use lemonier with beyond range,Igniter,engine boost that conceals me skill,fixated and fully packed Inspirations:Gunichi Mikawa and Von muller for concealment &movement speed Upgrades:Aiming mod 1,steering gears mod 2,Concealment mod 3 and AA damage mod 4 ...this build works well for me 🤘🤘
I really enjoy this ship. The firepower CANNOT be underestimated. Basically, just use islands against BB's and destroy DD's. I spec all the way into AP pen. It WRECKS battleships.
T7 premiums are above my self-imposed budget limit for this game, so she won't be seeing my port. Did have one in a game yesterday, but they contributed almost nothing to the battle, so the high skill ceiling is definitely a thing.
Hello! As Bayard arrived later than Plymouth, WG unintentionally pushed themselves away from many "credits". Who grabbed Plymouth earlier, they will not even consider picking up Bayard... and if i have to choose between the 2, then i would go for Plymuff. She's an interesting ship, but it think it's too late for her now. High skill, high reward ship with the dev strike punishment if you make a wrong move. /no heals to correct mistakes, overpens are highly unlikely at this tier and against T8./ Me personally will stick with Charles Martell in this nation. Yes the sonar has to be sacrificed for the reload booster, but I rather sling 203mm shells around every 4-5 seconds than 152s every 3-4. Plus as a "kiting" nation which feels herself the best when played from range, that 4.4km sonar is not a big loss... Otherwise nice video as always and please keep up the good work Derka! o7
You have a really good point, both of these stand alone T7s are really really good, they should have separated them. Like you, I would give Plymouth the nod as well, but Bayard is strong imo. A well timed reload boosters can wipe a DD or cruiser off the map, or deal large damage to a BB. Interesting that you choose Charles over Bayard! But my div mate said the same thing yesterday so there's something to that. Thanks for your Incite Kriv 😀
@@DerkaGames One more pro on the side of the Charles Martell is the turret layout. With 75% firepower at the front and excellent turret arcs, bow in and kiting situations feels much more natural and comfortable for the ship. Without exposing much of the citadel. Bayard is more like the RN cruisers. Where you have 50/50 firepower distribution and you have to expose your citadel for full salvos. I know many players compare her to the De Grasse, but imo she's much more of an "altered" version of the Algerie. I always considered Algerie as the "ugly duckling" of this Tech Tree. Mainly because as soon as you get used to the 2 in front and 1 at the back turret layout with 3 guns each, Algerie comes in and slaps you in the face with the 50/50... 😅 And this is the part when Plymuff gets a bit of praise. (Sorry) She just has too many guns. 😅 Despite the 50/50 firepower distribution, in a bow in situation you have 8! guns in 2 turrets at your disposal. 😅 Bayard has her place in the game as well and as you said the RLB is strong with this one. She can be fun! 😉 Sadly the price is a bit steep when Plymuff is already in your port. ☹️
I don't know if i just have bad luck with this ship, but the fire starting ability catfishes me every time I decide to dust it off. It looks awesome on paper... 12 guns with very high HE fire starting chance, great reload time, great range, great 180 turn time. But then I play it and after an entire match, I've only started 5 or so fires and my total damage reflects that. Like i said, maybe I just have bad luck with it? I do know that I wouldn't buy it again.
Seems like a good ship, high skill floor but that's how i like them, but 17.500 doobloons ? Man they can wait, that's literally 7 campain for 1 ship, tier 7 should have been stuck only for Gxp On a side note i might have found a utility for the legends version of Flandre, as it seems like we'll never get the secondary buff, i tried a Roux build (lvl 15/3 recquiered) with Kondo and Swirsky, with the special speed boost perk i managed to get the concealment at 9.8 km with said speed boost, that's actually insane, i literally sneaked on a freaking fiji trying to cap smoke xD i'd say try this with Richelieu its really fun (do point out that i only had 2 games and 1 with JB, i'll play more tomorow) but this build is insane with Jean Bart, 9.8 concealment with the 10sec MBRB on 8 380s is broken I'm gonna post the build on wowsbuilds under Flandre
9.8????? That is in fact nuts haha holy eff. Yeah tier 7 premiums are soooo expensive its crazy. And so soon to plymouth...I can't imagine they sell a ton
Tier 6, 7, 8 and LT also have a rudder module in slot 3. So you could do double rudder (rudder in slot 2 AND 3) or Prop mod in Slot 2, and rudder in slot 3
Completely off topic, but I’m interested in your opinion on something. Do you think WoW:L will introduce modern warships? Similar to how modern tanks have become the meta on WoT?
Bayard would still be much faster and the armor in my eyes is better with French spaced armor and an enclosed cit.. Weimar still prolly the better ship overall i guess 🤷♂️
Man I just got the ship two days ago in a Xmas package. Maybe a year ago you could have this kinda game. But in about 6 matches I played in it. It was horrible in every sense. When. Going up against tier 7 8 and super which I was matched up against all 3 in the 6 or so matches I played. This ship does nothing but set fires but to hit anything you have to play behind an island or just catch an idiot. But you have no chance head to head on most other ships. I sold it and used the silver to buy the bureau battle ship. And I'll admit. I'm not a great cruiser player. Nor is sitting behind island's my game style. So maybe alot of this is on me. But
She has her moments, but yeah it's an island spammer for sure. Lots of shatters and lots of hiding, without the heals it's hard to trade with other ships you're right
A T7 Cruiser without heals and low health? It's almost as preposterous as an even lower HP T7 Cruiser with basically useless heals and no 4th mod slot...
Sadly, this ship does not offer anything to make it stand out amongst it's peers, and does not have any gimmicks that make it worth while. Speed Boost only and no heals - just not worth 17k dubs IMO.
I'm running Roux with fully packed. This ship is expert at melting destroyers and wrecking broadside cruisers...good ship. Thanks for the review...enjoyed watching!
🙏🙏🙏 the the 3 reload boosters are great fun lol
I always love ur 4k high quality videos dude👍u got the neat quality videos for wows legends
Thanks Tom, I was a little disappointed in the quality of this one but glad you enjoyed it!
Not sure how I missed this vid, but nicely done my man. Always nice to see boats I may not end up with. Thanks.
YT algorithm don't fail me! Lol
This cruiser sounds like a challenge, anyone who would dare have this as their main I respect them
Not the easiest to play but strong in the right hands!
I like the boat! But "PLY MOUTH" will still be my fav
Nice vid
yes Plieee - mouth is a beast lol
Interesting ship and looks like It’ll be a tough opponent. Have a good one Derka!
Thanks Doge!
I just pulled this ship from a crate and ad to go back to find the review. Pretty tasty baguette for a cruiser main.
Hope you enjoy it!
I use lemonier with beyond range,Igniter,engine boost that conceals me skill,fixated and fully packed
Inspirations:Gunichi Mikawa and Von muller for concealment &movement speed
Upgrades:Aiming mod 1,steering gears mod 2,Concealment mod 3 and AA damage mod 4 ...this build works well for me 🤘🤘
Solid build!
@@DerkaGames perhaps a round 2 but try the build I setup with to see if it works better 🤘🤘
I really enjoy this ship. The firepower CANNOT be underestimated. Basically, just use islands against BB's and destroy DD's. I spec all the way into AP pen. It WRECKS battleships.
Great bote!
Do you spec your French cruiser commander with the armor pen secondary commander in slot 7 or 11? Or does Bayards shells pen most BB's by itself?
Excellent review as usual. 👍
Thank you!
I like how you used the port music as the into!
It's one of my favorites. Like Skyrims menu music 😀
T7 premiums are above my self-imposed budget limit for this game, so she won't be seeing my port. Did have one in a game yesterday, but they contributed almost nothing to the battle, so the high skill ceiling is definitely a thing.
You're right, it's poor survivability keeps it at long range early game and it's hard to effect battle outcomes from way back there sometimes
Hello!
As Bayard arrived later than Plymouth, WG unintentionally pushed themselves away from many "credits".
Who grabbed Plymouth earlier, they will not even consider picking up Bayard...
and if i have to choose between the 2, then i would go for Plymuff.
She's an interesting ship, but it think it's too late for her now.
High skill, high reward ship with the dev strike punishment if you make a wrong move.
/no heals to correct mistakes, overpens are highly unlikely at this tier and against T8./
Me personally will stick with Charles Martell in this nation.
Yes the sonar has to be sacrificed for the reload booster, but I rather sling 203mm shells around every 4-5 seconds than 152s every 3-4. Plus as a "kiting" nation which feels herself the best when played from range, that 4.4km sonar is not a big loss...
Otherwise nice video as always and please keep up the good work Derka! o7
You have a really good point, both of these stand alone T7s are really really good, they should have separated them.
Like you, I would give Plymouth the nod as well, but Bayard is strong imo. A well timed reload boosters can wipe a DD or cruiser off the map, or deal large damage to a BB.
Interesting that you choose Charles over Bayard! But my div mate said the same thing yesterday so there's something to that.
Thanks for your Incite Kriv 😀
@@DerkaGames
One more pro on the side of the Charles Martell is the turret layout. With 75% firepower at the front and excellent turret arcs, bow in and kiting situations feels much more natural and comfortable for the ship. Without exposing much of the citadel.
Bayard is more like the RN cruisers. Where you have 50/50 firepower distribution and you have to expose your citadel for full salvos.
I know many players compare her to the De Grasse, but imo she's much more of an "altered" version of the Algerie. I always considered Algerie as the "ugly duckling" of this Tech Tree. Mainly because as soon as you get used to the 2 in front and 1 at the back turret layout with 3 guns each, Algerie comes in and slaps you in the face with the 50/50... 😅
And this is the part when Plymuff gets a bit of praise. (Sorry) She just has too many guns. 😅 Despite the 50/50 firepower distribution, in a bow in situation you have 8! guns in 2 turrets at your disposal. 😅
Bayard has her place in the game as well and as you said the RLB is strong with this one. She can be fun! 😉
Sadly the price is a bit steep when Plymuff is already in your port. ☹️
Great review, I love this crusty baguette 👌
Thanks, yeah she's really fun!
Was my first premium boat. Hated it at first, but it's one of my favorites now!
Daddy DeGrasse is proud of his kids.
😁
Can you please review the Yaghi tier 4 Cruiser soon I can get your opinion?
I was in a match with you yesterday lol 😅 I love the sshipby the way, it’s just a fun stronger Colbert
Nice what map?
@@DerkaGames it was the arctic map with all the icebergs, my team lost against you but it was my first time I think I’ve seen you in a match ha
@@deathx1030 well Ggs!
I put DD CDR on it for locating nearest ship
Oh that's interesting
I don't know if i just have bad luck with this ship, but the fire starting ability catfishes me every time I decide to dust it off. It looks awesome on paper... 12 guns with very high HE fire starting chance, great reload time, great range, great 180 turn time. But then I play it and after an entire match, I've only started 5 or so fires and my total damage reflects that. Like i said, maybe I just have bad luck with it? I do know that I wouldn't buy it again.
I've had those games =( RNG
I think this ship will be good in 1v1s against cruisers with the reload booster
Yeah you're right, but the low health pool makes it tough
@@DerkaGames yeah, that might be why they're is the reload booster, they should have added the option to switch that with heals
Seems like a good ship, high skill floor but that's how i like them, but 17.500 doobloons ? Man they can wait, that's literally 7 campain for 1 ship, tier 7 should have been stuck only for Gxp
On a side note i might have found a utility for the legends version of Flandre, as it seems like we'll never get the secondary buff, i tried a Roux build (lvl 15/3 recquiered) with Kondo and Swirsky, with the special speed boost perk i managed to get the concealment at 9.8 km with said speed boost, that's actually insane, i literally sneaked on a freaking fiji trying to cap smoke xD i'd say try this with Richelieu its really fun (do point out that i only had 2 games and 1 with JB, i'll play more tomorow) but this build is insane with Jean Bart, 9.8 concealment with the 10sec MBRB on 8 380s is broken
I'm gonna post the build on wowsbuilds under Flandre
9.8????? That is in fact nuts haha holy eff. Yeah tier 7 premiums are soooo expensive its crazy. And so soon to plymouth...I can't imagine they sell a ton
hi, how do you put steering gear mod2 & propulsion mod2 together!!?? it can’t be together!!? how 🤔
Tier 6, 7, 8 and LT also have a rudder module in slot 3. So you could do double rudder (rudder in slot 2 AND 3) or Prop mod in Slot 2, and rudder in slot 3
Completely off topic, but I’m interested in your opinion on something. Do you think WoW:L will introduce modern warships? Similar to how modern tanks have become the meta on WoT?
I mean I hope not, although PC now has tier 11 ships. The Brit aircraft carrier features jet fighters
Sounds like I can do everything the Bayard can do in my agile Weimer?
Bayard would still be much faster and the armor in my eyes is better with French spaced armor and an enclosed cit.. Weimar still prolly the better ship overall i guess 🤷♂️
Man I just got the ship two days ago in a Xmas package. Maybe a year ago you could have this kinda game. But in about 6 matches I played in it. It was horrible in every sense. When. Going up against tier 7 8 and super which I was matched up against all 3 in the 6 or so matches I played. This ship does nothing but set fires but to hit anything you have to play behind an island or just catch an idiot. But you have no chance head to head on most other ships. I sold it and used the silver to buy the bureau battle ship. And I'll admit. I'm not a great cruiser player. Nor is sitting behind island's my game style. So maybe alot of this is on me. But
She has her moments, but yeah it's an island spammer for sure. Lots of shatters and lots of hiding, without the heals it's hard to trade with other ships you're right
I think this one is a pass. I’m sure it will turn up in a Santa crate at some point. Good review.
Thank you sir
Basic question plymouth or Bayard
Plymouth!!!!
Will be honest I spend most of my time on the game in port staring at the ship models. I’m a sad pickle not being able to look at the l bureau models.
The art dept is excellentl at wargaming
@@DerkaGames I like the build ships outa legos. The numerous ship models in the game help out a ton.
Not sure about the legends Stats but on pc its a cleveland
Similar yeah. Bayard more fun to me tho. Not stuck behind an island, can run and gun
A T7 Cruiser without heals and low health? It's almost as preposterous as an even lower HP T7 Cruiser with basically useless heals and no 4th mod slot...
🤣
I have destroyed this ship with almost full health a couple of times in 1 full Salvo
Looks good, but $80.00, I’m thinking nope.
I hear that. Sooooo expensive
Bro I just played a match against you I was in a F.Caraccilo. I wish I played better good game.
What map??
@@DerkaGames The map was trident it was a Domination game.
@@darthwarspite8544 ahh yes your team disintegrated, you had 3 people quit/disconnect. Not your fault at all. Ggs
@@DerkaGames Thank you Ggs bro.
Fyi it’s pronounced Lemmon-yay
Thanks
Sadly, this ship does not offer anything to make it stand out amongst it's peers, and does not have any gimmicks that make it worth while. Speed Boost only and no heals - just not worth 17k dubs IMO.
It is a lot of money...Plymouth is better imo
I hope its a better ship than all last ships thay have creëted 100 euro . We have also the . Montage ship T VIII 🤣🤣 AND EVERYTING . BY BANKING .