Thanks for sharing Glen. I’ve just come off my opiate pain treatment. I hate to say stopping a drug was the hardest experience of my life, we all have tragedies that befall us in this life, but it’s up there. Thank you for your service brother. Stay well.
I just get tired from Suboxone paws, especially at work, sometimes anxious at work as well. I also feel blah sometimes. Definitely would never ever in a million years take Suboxone ever again. Was on it for 13 years.
@@The_New_Abnormal_World_Order I don’t think anyone eat better than me I should say healthier to be honest I eat very clean no sugar period I also work out every day hard I got my 6 pack shiny I rarely eat carbs I get my crabs from Greek yogurt mushrooms and avocado now my protein intake is chicken eggs and clean beef that’s my life every day to be honest I have 8% body fat I also drink ginger tea made from fresh ginger and take magnesium and I take my vitamins every day and I still can’t get out of the paws from subs I have never had this much emotional brake down I’m trying to pull thru it and I’m fighting as hard as I can
I have been off opiates going on 5 months after 12 years of heavy use. The only thing that bothers me is that I have no energy or motivation. PAWS SUCKS. I understand why people relapse. My faith keeps me clean. ✌
Congratulations Andrew on your accomplishment! I did an interview with Jake Nichols that may interest you and perhaps you can reach out to him or someone like him to discuss the lack of energy or motivation.
5 months sober and those assholes cost him another 4 years. He was so close to being done. I'll bet he had worse paws from the Suboxone. That's just dirty. They should have been honest and let him know how close he was.
How do you wanna know this? Paws can last for years. I have since 7 years sleeping problems and fatigue. I was addicted to heroin and morphin for 3 years. Sober since 7 years and i still have paws.
That isn’t “restless legs” that is called “withdrawal akathisia” and it can become chronic and last for decades. Do not push through withdrawal. Don’t fear seizure & death. Fear things you have to live with like painful movement disorders. Half of opiate addiction is lower level akathisia and everyone doesn’t realize it.
I live in the Appalachian mountains & my husband became permanently disabled at 32 years old from an accident in, yup, you guessed it, the coal mines. Have been in MAT for 9 years & off Suboxone for 13 months. Although I am not in active addiction & no longer experiencing acute wd, I must say I am sure glad I didn’t know THIS is what it’d be like all this time later.
Still clean & suboxone free almost 18mos now, it’s pure HELL ALL THE WAY! To the point where when I see people with their little signs 456 days clean, recovery is possible, I feel great, look at me…DRIVES ME CRAZY!! What about me?! Why don’t I feel that way after 12 YEARS!!!!????
I had a severe leg injury back in 2019 and had 4 surgerys i was prescribed 10mgs of percocets that i took every 6 hours. Unfortunately this went on for 3 years. One morning i said to myself thats it im Done! I am now 20 weeks off that poison and still suffering from Paws. I whould never ever go on Methadone or Suboxone! I hope it sure does end soon its been such a journey!
I have been in PAWS from ssris and benzo for the past 20 months. The last 3 months have been unbelievably unbearable to the point that I am often times one click away from taking back the medication or being sedated again. But I have been holding off because it could be that I am almost out. I just wish we all could see the end and how much longer we got to go in order to make decisions.
I withdrawaled from both at same time, i then purposly relapsed to taper down both then quit methadone first, then clonopin. yes benzo withdrawal was worse and so was the PAWS. the anxiety and brain zaps and I couldnt really even talk to people during that.
I once saw the homecoming queen, a beautiful girl, eat a WHITE DOG TURD for an oxy 80!! Thank goodness I had money that day bc I was scanning the yard for one of the “least gross” ones just in case the dope man asked me to!!! The damage so far has been irreversible & irreparable! Even after 11-12 years😔
Thank you i have described my feeling when i took pain medication, you calling it a utopia uforic? Cant spell. But utopia was my way of describing it. Im now using methadone and down to low dose but the energy and on top of it the pain, no sleeping or not well, no energy, nausia headaches you name it ive been this way for two years, test show nothing. I have rhymitiod arteritis and its been over 20 years ive known but these last two out of 6 years sobriety, im not sure if getting off methadone is possable. Thanks just listening knowing im not crazy, or trying to make excuse to use drug of any kind. God bless our mess. This was a testamony i will use to educate my family and friends.
Another story .. great... but what the hell is being done to stop all this from opiods and BENZOS....DAM enough talking ENOUGH....GET TO THE ROOT OF THIS MESS .. DAM IT ALL I SEE IS STORIES HORRIBLE STORIES BUT WERE ARE THE SOLUTIONS ????
3rd week from stopping cold turkey from 20-25 10mg Vicodin a day for over a year. Will I ever feel normal again???????????? Still feel like poop. What can I take to get energy again??? Anyone have any tips.
I thought this was going to be a different kind of video but this guy is making me very irritable he keeps talking about how he was a pilot okay I get it but man get on with your story! 🙄
I figure he is tryin to reassure folks who got addicted covertly, like through being prescribed pain meds. He wants people to understand if it happened to him it can happen to you.
Thank you. The VA scares me. I watched my husband (Marine Sgt.) be prescribed oxys, for pain- then pills upon pills for what I believe now to be PAWS. He was never tapered, but switched from one pill to another. In the end he was taking up to 15 pills including SSRI's , oxys , benzos. It was hideous.
@@susanmorgan4151damn. Sorry to hear that. I have cancer and they won't even prescribe benzos and opiates together at my cancer center because of how much damage they can do. By themselves they're bad but together they are super dangerous and hell to quit. Can't imagine what he was dealing with to need all those meds. When you said the end did you mean the end of him taking the meds or something else?
So many misunderstandings here. Suboxone is worse to get off of than any short acting opioid and it you have to get through paws all again.
Thanks for sharing Glen. I’ve just come off my opiate pain treatment. I hate to say stopping a drug was the hardest experience of my life, we all have tragedies that befall us in this life, but it’s up there. Thank you for your service brother. Stay well.
Suboxone for paws is ridiculous. Suboxone is an absolute nightmare to get off of and causes long lasting paws.
I just get tired from Suboxone paws, especially at work, sometimes anxious at work as well. I also feel blah sometimes. Definitely would never ever in a million years take Suboxone ever again. Was on it for 13 years.
@@mattbortz10 Same here, it's definitely most noticeable at work. Just about 12 weeks off and also on for about 12 to 13 years.
Man I’m of suns 6 months and I’m just depressed all the time how long this shit would last ? It drives me nuts
@@leonidtodorovski635 Maybe you could have a nutritional deficiency that is making it worse? Epsom salt baths are really good. All the best🙏🌻
@@The_New_Abnormal_World_Order I don’t think anyone eat better than me I should say healthier to be honest I eat very clean no sugar period I also work out every day hard I got my 6 pack shiny I rarely eat carbs I get my crabs from Greek yogurt mushrooms and avocado now my protein intake is chicken eggs and clean beef that’s my life every day to be honest I have 8% body fat I also drink ginger tea made from fresh ginger and take magnesium and I take my vitamins every day and I still can’t get out of the paws from subs I have never had this much emotional brake down I’m trying to pull thru it and I’m fighting as hard as I can
I have been off opiates going on 5 months after 12 years of heavy use. The only thing that bothers me is that I have no energy or motivation. PAWS SUCKS. I understand why people relapse. My faith keeps me clean. ✌
Congratulations Andrew on your accomplishment! I did an interview with Jake Nichols that may interest you and perhaps you can reach out to him or someone like him to discuss the lack of energy or motivation.
@Terri Vidals were are the solutions for this mess ...interview a benzo survivor least opiod users h med to helph aave
@@garysimone4977I feel for people trying to come off Xanax
Gud job,, hang tough, bet u get over it too
At 3 milligrams, suboxone fills 70% of opioid receptors. It's a terrible drug. I hated it.
5 months sober and those assholes cost him another 4 years. He was so close to being done. I'll bet he had worse paws from the Suboxone. That's just dirty. They should have been honest and let him know how close he was.
How do you wanna know this? Paws can last for years. I have since 7 years sleeping problems and fatigue. I was addicted to heroin and morphin for 3 years. Sober since 7 years and i still have paws.
That isn’t “restless legs” that is called “withdrawal akathisia” and it can become chronic and last for decades. Do not push through withdrawal. Don’t fear seizure & death. Fear things you have to live with like painful movement disorders. Half of opiate addiction is lower level akathisia and everyone doesn’t realize it.
It's usually the people that get the "up" feeling that end up having addiction issues with opiates.
I live in the Appalachian mountains & my husband became permanently disabled at 32 years old from an accident in, yup, you guessed it, the coal mines. Have been in MAT for 9 years & off Suboxone for 13 months. Although I am not in active addiction & no longer experiencing acute wd, I must say I am sure glad I didn’t know THIS is what it’d be like all this time later.
You still have post acute?
Yes I certainly do
Still clean & suboxone free almost 18mos now, it’s pure HELL ALL THE WAY! To the point where when I see people with their little signs 456 days clean, recovery is possible, I feel great, look at me…DRIVES ME CRAZY!! What about me?! Why don’t I feel that way after 12 YEARS!!!!????
@@amandayates3679 Have you tried looking into medications like antidepressants, wellbutrin or Vyvanse? I read these can help with paws.
I’m in them coalfields too..southern wv
I had a severe leg injury back in 2019 and had 4 surgerys i was prescribed 10mgs of percocets that i took every 6 hours. Unfortunately this went on for 3 years. One morning i said to myself thats it im Done! I am now 20 weeks off that poison and still suffering from Paws. I whould never ever go on Methadone or Suboxone! I hope it sure does end soon its been such a journey!
How you doing?
@@davegordon6943 I still have Paws. Unbelievable!
im 5 months off methadone and still feel like im in mild withdrawal. infact it feels more intense.
Nothing new here.. glad he was successful ...least he was not on a benzo that makes opioid use seems easy. Least opiods have a treatment God bless
God he was probably just a couple months away from being done with PAWS and they put him on 4-6mg of sub… poor guy.
I have been in PAWS from ssris and benzo for the past 20 months. The last 3 months have been unbelievably unbearable to the point that I am often times one click away from taking back the medication or being sedated again. But I have been holding off because it could be that I am almost out. I just wish we all could see the end and how much longer we got to go in order to make decisions.
That's what I'm saying. Cost him another 4 years
@@madelynhernandez7453did u make it out of paws??
This was informative
Thank you
This is excellent information. Have you seen Dr KJ Foster's take on PAWS? It's also great.
Lol. Opioids were a cakewalk compared to benzos.
I withdrawaled from both at same time, i then purposly relapsed to taper down both then quit methadone first, then clonopin. yes benzo withdrawal was worse and so was the PAWS. the anxiety and brain zaps and I couldnt really even talk to people during that.
@@pigeonsil240sx yep. Its uncomparable imo.
I once saw the homecoming queen, a beautiful girl, eat a WHITE DOG TURD for an oxy 80!! Thank goodness I had money that day bc I was scanning the yard for one of the “least gross” ones just in case the dope man asked me to!!! The damage so far has been irreversible & irreparable! Even after 11-12 years😔
irreversible & irreparable! Even after 11-12 years? can we chat privatly on facebook? i am going thru simalr but not as long
@@BigBadMF43 i dont have a facebook page
@@BigBadMF43 I hope the best for you, I am still trying my best! No relapse, or anything, but Idt we’ll EVER BE THE PERSON WE WERE BEFORE
What a disgusting person ( dope man ) to make a person do that , just evil.
subs for paws is crazy, never ends well. literally got on a super powerful opioid lmao lord
Thank you i have described my feeling when i took pain medication, you calling it a utopia uforic? Cant spell. But utopia was my way of describing it. Im now using methadone and down to low dose but the energy and on top of it the pain, no sleeping or not well, no energy, nausia headaches you name it ive been this way for two years, test show nothing. I have rhymitiod arteritis and its been over 20 years ive known but these last two out of 6 years sobriety, im not sure if getting off methadone is possable. Thanks just listening knowing im not crazy, or trying to make excuse to use drug of any kind. God bless our mess. This was a testamony i will use to educate my family and friends.
I feel for you
Another story .. great... but what the hell is being done to stop all this from opiods and BENZOS....DAM enough talking ENOUGH....GET TO THE ROOT OF THIS MESS .. DAM IT ALL I SEE IS STORIES HORRIBLE STORIES BUT WERE ARE THE SOLUTIONS ????
Exactly. It appears the message is indescribably slow getting to GP's , and anyone else who prescribes these meds.
@@susanmorgan4151 SO TRUE. , SO VERY TRUE
3rd week from stopping cold turkey from 20-25 10mg Vicodin a day for over a year. Will I ever feel normal again????????????
Still feel like poop. What can I take to get energy again??? Anyone have any tips.
amino acids
Do light exercise...
Ridiculos and at first, I thought he knew. But for PAWS? You just delay and start all over.
Oh man you don’t know what they did to you if they put you on subs lord and Mitch get of subs ASAP
I thought this was going to be a different kind of video but this guy is making me very irritable he keeps talking about how he was a pilot okay I get it but man get on with your story! 🙄
I figure he is tryin to reassure folks who got addicted covertly, like through being prescribed pain meds. He wants people to understand if it happened to him it can happen to you.
Thank you. The VA scares me. I watched my husband (Marine Sgt.) be prescribed oxys, for pain- then pills upon pills for what I believe now to be PAWS. He was never tapered, but switched from one pill to another. In the end he was taking up to 15 pills including SSRI's , oxys , benzos. It was hideous.
@Susan Morgan VA hospitals sadly are lacking much ,, God Bless you
@@susanmorgan4151 ya think ??? I am not to sure
@@susanmorgan4151damn. Sorry to hear that. I have cancer and they won't even prescribe benzos and opiates together at my cancer center because of how much damage they can do. By themselves they're bad but together they are super dangerous and hell to quit. Can't imagine what he was dealing with to need all those meds. When you said the end did you mean the end of him taking the meds or something else?
People are so full of shit