TV Money: Caitlin Clark's Olympic 'snub', the WNBA's next deal, and how much is it all worth?
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Meadowlark Media CEO John Skipper and @NPDS's David Samson are back with another episode with host of @PabloTorreFindsOut ... Pablo Torre! Welcome to The Sporting Class! It’s time to talk about women’s sports and where it’s currently at in the media landscape. Caitlin Clark is a shooting star. The Olympic team decided to leave her off it. The WNBA is readying for a new TV deal at the perfect time so what will that money look like? This whole episode is a deep dive into the growth and money that the WNBA is chasing. (45:30) It’s time for the final thoughts. Here’s what we weren’t able to get to in full.
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If I hired a salesman that dramatically increased sales, was a good person at home/work, was super humble, and all the customers loved them BUT the other employees complained because the new guy was making them look bad... then I'd tell the other employees to get good or go f*ck off. 🤷♂
I usually am a big David Sampson fan. He comes off as a real jerk this episode.
Wishing this was a daily.
Agreed
2 things can be true
1. CC is not good enough to be on this team yet
2. It is a terrible business decision not to include her anyways
1. she is good enough
2. It is a terrible business decision
@@AlexSmith-rh7mcshe hasn’t earned it and you’re either going to keep watching after the Olympic break or not. If you think she’s good enough to be on the Olympic team now, you’re clearly not watching the W anyway
Taurasi has 1 all star in the last 6 years, she can be on the staff if mentorship is neeed. Taurasi and B Stewart were in the Olympics as rookies based on their college resume.
@@darthsiddious7469 Taurasi is 4th in 3pt shooting THIS year and number one all time. She’s also played with the majority of the players on the team. DT and Stewie came into the league having won championships and playing in a more physical conference. CC has not done any of that. She also hasn’t played in any of the Olympic camps, let her rest and let her earn it
You nailed it!!💯💯💯
The 1978 World Invitational Team roster included the names of Ervin Magic Johnson and Larry Bird, among others. The team coach chose to bench Magic and Bird in favor of those from the school he coached at. Only given precious few minutes of play time Magic and Bird put on a show that far surpassed the play of the coaches starting 5, and they were each others main rivals at the time. If Magic and Bird had played on the same team in the 1980 Olympics some beautiful basketball would have entertained hundreds of millions on the International level. If Reese and Clark could produce on the same level as Magic and Bird, then some real change might be possible for the WNBA.
So David, don't let the players decide who's on the team, but let NBC and the fans decide who's on the team. 🤷♂️
YES. In the NBA/WNBA, I respect that there are personnel decisions that are always controversial. It happens. When we are being represented as a country, WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY ON WHOS ON THE TEAM! Arike made it clear the older players didn’t like her, so she withdrew her name. She and Caitlin are treated bad by Turasi and others who feel disrespected that Clark, Reese, Brinkley and others are bringing more exposure than she has EVER generated. It a hard fact, and it is likely racially motivated, but the truth remains the truth as ugly or distasteful as it may be.
Exactly it’s asinine! The best 12 players are going and she’s not even a top 15 player.
@@lennybeason1110 Taurasi made 1 all star in last 6 years, clearly she's not one of the best. Taurasi and B Stewart were in the Olympics as rookies based on their college resume.
@@darthsiddious7469 she’s a veteran leader and winner and champion and can handle the physical play that CC definitely struggles with.
@@lennybeason1110 No 42 year old, male or female, is equipped for anything physical in competition with players 20 years their junior.
Caitlin Clark , The fastest rookie in WNBA history to record 150 points, 50 rebounds, and 50 assists. Now the WNBA's Rookie of the Month for the month of May. There have been other rookies make the USA team with less more so because of their NCAA accomplishments. Some people have a double standard.
You have a double standard, a player shooting 35% from the field and 29% from 3. She has never played with any of the players on the olympic team, never played in the international tourney which is more physical than the wnba, but yall complaining about how phyiscal the wnba is. Finally, they play with a different ball too. This man said shes the best long range shooter this isnt college. The goal is too win the olympics not ratings.
The rookies who did play in the Olympics had prior experience with the senior team. Caitlin does not that's the difference.
The problem is also shown when discussing Arike Ogunbowale:
2nd in points- 26.2 pts/game
1st in Steals- 3.1/Game
3rd in 3 pointers- 2.9/Game
She DIDNT MAKE THE TEAM!!! Why you might ask? Taurasi and other older player (including the Team USA Coach) have been talking badly on her and Clark. Arike said yesterday that she withdrew her name after it was made clear to her “the vibe” of the team wasn’t for her. The vibe is the older ladies tearing these young women down, and THAT is the problem!!!
She's playing for Nigeria.
@@ShaunaCross1 she is playing for Nigeria because like she said on UNC and Ocho, she wanted to be on team USA, but she withdrew her name and went for Nigeria because it was clear the older players didn’t want her. No one was smart enough to ask why she stopped trying out for Team USA and went to Nigeria’s team.
She took her name out of the USA pool because she said the selections were too political.
Arike voluntarily removed her name from the selection process before last years FIBA Americup. Her 2024 stats do not matter. We don't know if she would have been selected because they were never given the choice. Also, stop box score watching. There is more to the selection process than her stats. The selection committee have stated what their criteria is.
@@ShaunaCross1 She's only playing for Nigeria because she knew she wasn't going to get picked (again) for the US Team. Her name was in the pool but she voluntarily withdrew it before selections were made. So she did want to rep. the US but because some of the WNBA gatekeepers are such haters, she dipped out.
I love this sports business talk with experts. I’m not a sports watcher but I am fascinated by the business side. Negotiations, how to think about value, all of it.
CC sitting on the bench and getting stripped and D’d up and only scoring 6 points doesn’t grow the game. If she plays and looks very average or bad and doesn’t live up to the hype would be a very bad thing in the Olympics.
If this is based on merit. Why didn’t Arile Ogunwabale make the team? She is second in the league in points and close to the league lead in steals
I'd watch it! Rookies often go as a nod to the next gen. These old vets just petty AH. I'd like Reese on there too - would be a fun watch (even if they don't get tons of minutes). CC will have the best players setting some real screens for her - a few logo threes will get everyone hyped. Then she can go back to the bench.
Her presence does
@@BrigaLifeXperience her presence does what? It aint winning any games and her presence ain’t dominant! There’s way better players that we don’t have to coddle and worry about them getting roughed up!
@@Gnofg and she should get picked before CC. Thanks!
The biggest lie is CC fanbase are gonna support other teams and players. No they're gonna support HER so this notion shes growing or gonna grow the game is bullshit. If that was true how come her games are avg 17K fans in attendance and every other teams are avg 7K. The game has grown every year with a 200% increase from 22 to 23. THATS BEFORE CC PEOPLE!! Lets stop the BS. I love to see for once a group prioritize integrity while moving with a moral compass and not letting a dollar dictate their actions. The game is growing organically.
Like those rednecks are gonna change their schedules to watch her play 5 minutes in group stage against FINLAND.
Because that’s not real life. Reality is that money is the only thing that really matters. And for the WNBA to be complaining about equal rights and pay, then turn up their nose at opportunities to achieve this, shows they don’t really want to fix the problem, they just want things to change + take credit without doing the actual work. 92 Dream Team + MJ vs Thomas + Laettner continues to be the example of how the NBA got to be a global brand where we here in the states are the equivalent of the Euro league in soccer. Other countries have their own leagues in sports but if you want the best competition, star athletes, pay etc, you normally have to go to one league specifically. WNBA players still have to go over seas in the off season, where their leagues pay more. We start taking that market share away guess where?
Then those who are whining that others are not getting exposure can buy tickets and fill the arena of their team choice.
She didn’t get SNUBBED!! But they should have put her on the team because she brings eyes, attention, and that brings viewers and more money!! But they wouldn’t know that!! 😂😂😂😂
They should put her on the men’s team. That would bring “eyes, attention, and viewers.” That is all that matters … right?
@@EricK-ir8np In other words you aren’t smart enough to explain. 🤣🤣😆😆😆🤣
@@EricK-ir8np There it is … you aren’t smart enough to mount a response. No surprise.
Do you think I am watching you 3 guys if you weren’t talking about Caitlin? I believe how I feel is how the majority feels.
Exactly
The CC coverage is wild. Putting her on this team would be a head scratcher. She can shoot incredibly well, unguarded she maybe the best shooter in the women’s game. But lord she has some big holes to fill before I put her in the top tier of women ballers. She can’t dribble well enough to create her own shots, if you put a more athletic player on her she’s been cooked so far in the pros. She can’t handle the physicality and speed of bigger faster players, terrible shooting percentage, has a terrible assist:turnover ratio, she is very, very bad on defense and those are the glaring holes. At this moment in time I haven’t seen a single starting WNBA guard who she has faced off against who isn’t her equal or better as an all around player. A’ja Wilson is the standard barer in the WNBA.
FACTS that the media totally ignores! They act like she’s putting up 25-5-5 and has provided numerous highlights full of exciting plays.
Taurasi and Stewart made the Olympics as rookies based on college resumes, but please continue with your dissertation.
@@darthsiddious7469 there’s way more talent now than back then! Nice try!
@@darthsiddious7469 never said anything about a rookie or college player not being able to play at this level, I said CC in particular, is not physically where she needs to be yet to hold her own with the best women players in the world, let alone the WNBA. By next Olympics she should be ready. Go watch Breanna Stuart’s rookie of the year highlights and you’ll see a physically grown woman holding her own against other physically grown women. Contrast that with CC’s game and it’s not even a question. Tarasui came into the game so long ago competition was different and if CC was around then she probably could have made that Olympic team too. But she wasn’t so..
This is the best podcast on RUclips right now. I will listen to these 3 people talk about anything in the sports business world.
Just say "Let's rig it like the NBA"
Idiotic response.
Just say “wnba should lose millions every year forever!!!”
@@chris20874 just say "they haven't rigged it yet like NBA to make money." Or according to your logic "WNBA shouldn't exist even though there are plenty of business/ shell companies that are used to hide losses of the parent company." WNBA has an uptick and people want to rig like the NBA for money. The NBA has changed all the rules for LeBron in the past 20 years and messed around and allowed 2 light skins jump shooters to beat LeBron because of those rules changes. 😂. It's funny people pretend to care about the WNBA, NBA or whatever sports league you can think of. Truth is the CASUAL fans want WWE. "Chendey Carter hip check on Clark the WNBA has to protect it's stars" i.e. let's let Caitlin do whatever she wants on the Court to make money. Travel, push off on her side step 3. @chris20874 just say " I don't much care for womens basketball but I like Caitlin Clark shooting 3s because in my head I could do that. "
How can you work for a company that loses 50 million dollars and then demand to fly private .. I dont get it ..
Lucy Rohden is now MAGA. I never thought I'd see her go far Right
The mercury and the liberty coach’s said they couldn’t keep up with CC’s speed!! Sounds like a good recommendation
Wait to go, Pablo and team. This is was best segment yet. Cheers!!!
Even if that $50m loss number was real (which no one seems to believe), that means the W will be profitable as soon as the new TV deal kicks in. Let's say the new CBA gives half of that new money to the players (which would be massively more than the % of revenue the W players currently get), that's still $70m extra going to the teams (using Skipper's $200m estimate for the W's share of the TV money, which honestly seems more likely to be low than high). in addition, that $50m alleged loss includes charter flights, which the W just began this year more or less out of the blue right around the same time the TV deals started getting finalized. Cathy Engelbert (the WNBA commisioner) has been saying for years that the W needs a stable financial model and you can't take away charter flights once you start them. Sure sounds like Adam Silver told her a number that made her feel good about pulling the trigger on starting them asap.
Skipper needs to stick to talking about business. He has no clue what he's talking about when it comes to 3x3 basketball. Clark's skillset does not mesh well with that uptempo style of play. She can't handle press defenses in the W. She's not gonna survive the constant pressure in 3x3. Her fans already cry about her getting faceguarded at 60 feet. In 3x3, her defender gonna be on her as soon as she steps foot on the court. She offers nothing offensive from 6ft to 22ft. No intermediate jumper in her game. No floater. She needs strength and conditioning work. She stupidly just put on muscle and has know idea how to play with it. But I guess she's a celebrity...
Turner Sports/WBD has also been shit at investing in basketball outside of Inside the NBA.
Accounting principles: Forrest Gump's author got screwed by "legal accounting principles" b/c his contract said he got a share of the "NET" profits and not "GROSS" profits. So the movie company put all of their costs to that movie so he didn't get anything. I learned this during a college managerial accounting class.
Crazy that David is the only one in media who had an answer for the Christian Laettner excuse.
I mean Stephen A too because he mentioned he was picked over Shaq and zo mourning who were also college grads at the time
People just have bad memories. In 1992 it was widely reported that one collegiate player would be on the DT roster. According to the USA Today the leading four candidates at that time were:
Laettner
Shaq
Alonzo Mourning
Jim Jackson
All four guys were having All American years. But the consensus was that Shaq and Laettner were the faves. Laettner had the edge in the end because he had participated on Team USA teams in college prior to the allowing of NBA players.
Shaq was a junior but yes Zo and Laettner had graduated as seniors by the time the Olympic games began.
Christian was a better college player than Shaq and dominated Shaq in college. He was the naismith winner. That is why he was chosen. You are using hindsight which is 20/20.
@@JROB447 Stephen A was making the point that they were better players.
This was very interesting. Never thought I would listen to a show for 50 minutes without skipping. Though I heard Pablo Torre, never listened to him before. I would look for his content now.
Caitlin will be a wonderful addition to the 28 team in LA. The build up will be amazing AND she needs the rest now. She’s good but there’s other great proven players that got snubbed.
I agree David, Israeli athletes shouldn't be allowed to fly their flag at the Paris in 2024 for the Olympics.
As long as Russia doesn't wave their flag Idgaf personally
Wow what a ridiculous statement. 🇮🇱🇮🇱God bless Israel
The WNBA is so whacked!! How they would react if infact the game grow as they wish . Then European women would want to come play for the WNBA. Would they hate on them as well.
20:57 i love how this has turned into a product pricing meeting😂
There is no basketball player, man or woman, who has gained fame and loyalty strictly due to the Olympics. The Olympics add to legacy but are only mentioned as a differentiator when Hall of Fame cases are made. General Olympics watchers are fans of their country, not fans of specific athletes with the exception of gymnastics, sprinting, and swimming.
But there are fans like me, who love women's basketball, but whose national team didn't make the Olympics, who would've liked to root for CC on the team.
With exceptions of the biggest sports that literally was the marketing of the Wheaties box for decades 😂. Why did you even type all of that? Basketball after 1992’s dream team falls into the realm. Charles Barkley got more famous after Barcelona it helped him ink more endorsement deals and bolster his trade potential to the suns.
Dude, the 1992 Dream Team changed all of that! MJ, Pip, D. Robinson, Barkley all significantly increased their marketability after performing on the world stage. Furthermore, when the 2004 Dream Team lost the gold, it was stigma on those players as individuals (LeBron being one of them) - not our country.
This show is awsome!! Definitely the best show on this channel by far. Speaking of slicing stuff up, this show should have its own channel.
Bull sh# they just saying what you want to hear. Well if you think these players are going to protect Caitlin. Them European women are going to beat her down. She could get hurt really bad she's not in shape for them.
My comment is about the show in general, not Caitlin Clark??. Besides that I don't understand your point, how do "European" women play more physically than the women in the WNBA?. Believe it or not I don't actually care if she plays in the Olympics or not, I actually watch all the videos on the business of sports that these 3 do, hence my comment.
Let Cait take a much needed break and regroup from the asskicking she’s getting as a rookie. Do we really want to see her go 1-6 in Olympics games?
She is fine with having to earn a spot btw. These opinions are moot
This really is one of the best business focused show/podcast on the internet. Others are either way too dry (as business people aren’t exactly personalities usually) or just outright grifters.
Such a nuanced conversation handled masterfully
Everyone is ignoring that Caitlin's tv ratings keeps getting lower as time goes by. Her appeal is only temporary.
Are you you blind 🙈🙉🙊 She sells out every area she goes to & sets tv ratings all the time. You must be looking at games others are playing without CC there. Low attendance even if their small areas are sold out & their tv ratings are low. Then CC shows up & they have to change to larger arenas to accommodate the fan overflow & the tv ratings soar. It’s a shame that certain people can’t accept the factual truths or someone’s success. Jealousy, Hatred, Racism & Sexism is a sphycotic mental illness that needs to be treated.
Boycotting the US Olympics women's basketball
Skipper was great on that Paramount golden parachute BS at the end. George Orwell was right.
I have a terminal degree in Business Administration and I love sports!!!! This show is nerdy awesome!
More people would watch if Taylor swift was on the team too
Oh swift broke ALL NCAA scoring records? I didn't know.
@@chris20874 doesn’t matter . They want ratings only
So David says there's no market for the WNBA but was publicly angling for an ownership stake on his podcast in John Skipper's new women's 3v3 league? Curious 🤨
Not as many women to throw hissy fits. And I'm a woman. We are our own worst enemies.
@@malebovinemanure she said that not me 😂
CC= America's DEI Player
Name a single women player who has ever garnered the attention that Clark has. Name a single WNBA player that made teams move to sellouts in larger arenas.
This year the women’s ncaa final outdrew the men’s ncaa. Name a women who has done that. Fyi, I played over 2,000 games with the rookie of the year in the first women’s professional league. Her name is Sandra Smallwood and she is in the Belmont HOF.
@@Gnofgonly trump mega fans want to see her😂
@@bobby12348 I have watched every NBA finals since 1965. I played ove 2,000 games with the rookie of the year on the first women's professional league., more than magas want to see her
Facts just like Christian laettner
@@Gnofgyes all of the yt ppl came to watch cause you'll finally have a good player. That is a fact if that's the fans you want that says alot of racist stuff then go ahead, but until she gets Blk fans she want get anywhere
Put Caitlin on the team and live stream all or most of the team's practices
Nancy Lieberman, a coach & youngest WBB US Olympic member, stated that a coach uses at most 9 of a 12 man roster. Put her as the 12th. CC will still draw fans on the bench. These fans will view the game awaiting for a glimpse of CC playing a minute or two of their favorite player. It is marketability and growing women's sport.
IF she is FORCED to join the team - will she be treated professionally by her teammates & coach or be both mistreated or destroyed by them for the reason that most of them are envious and jealous of her.
Did you see what Iowa did? I don’t care that the WNBA is doing everything they can to make Caitlin Clark look bad. She belongs on the team on merit alone.
They still talking about this
Skipper moving back and forth is distracting. Get the man a better seat
Olympics is about winning, not filling seats.
For the athletes, sure. NBC has another agenda.
The host country’s Olympic committee and tv markets would hard disagree.
The Olympic movement is absolutely not about winning as the primary focus of the event. Yes, there is somebody / somebodies who win a gold medal, but the vast majority of Olympic athletes won’t win a medal and going in have no hope of winning a medal of any color. For the vast majority of Olympic athletes, their goal / dream is to compete at the very best level they can attain even if that level is 20th place in whatever sport when in their career they had ever before come close to 20th place. Most people focus and marvel at the gold medal winner, which undoubtedly is a worthy accomplishment. But just as worthy of respect and admiration is the athlete who, say, finishes 16th the mile run by shattering their personal best time on the biggest athletic stage in the world. Most people think of the 16th place finisher as not nearly as good as the winner, but to be better than all runners at a mile except only 15 runners on the planet is a level that is so exceptional, yet most people don’t give those who don’t win a medal any thought. The Olympics is the movement that was founded so that athletes could compete at their highest level, whatever that level is, and by pushing and being pushed by the competition they bring glory to themselves and to sport.
They talking about unfairness and omissions but Nneka Ogwumike name never comes up. She’s a WNBA mvp and champion and has done insane amounts of work with team USA but hasn’t been rewarded by being selected to the national team. She won MVP in 2016 and was left off the Olympic roster.
Don't forget that Caitlin participated in u18,1 u19 and if my memory doesn't fail, in u20 with 3 gold medals for the U.S.A. in world championships in these categories. Second, why have a player that was in jail in Russia for drug possession?
Wow thought it was based on merit not popularity .
Isiah Thomas has been punching the air for 30 years trying to get people to understand this.
@@Bman32x that is not a good example. I remember it clearly. MJ did not want him on the team, and so he wasn’t.
If anything, Isaiah is more like Caitlin; the old timers treated Isaiah badly, and acted like he wasn’t statistically similar to them.
It’s always funny to liberals in the media who support affirmative action and quotas. Yet they will stand by that the 12 beat players should be on the Olympic team because of merit.
There is a process of picking players and the committee that picked the players chooses someone over Caitlin.
Dawn Staley was on the committee and did not pick Caitlin.
Who do you kick off the women's basketball team for Caitlin?
Caitlin is a great player & the WNBA will be taking an Olympic break. During that time Caitlin can go away from everyone & let her recharge her batteries.
Their reasoning for her being off the team was inconsistent. We knew about these Olympics for years, it wasn’t a surprise. So, Caitlin being “inexperienced” wasn’t going to change after 11 games. So why include her in the beginning?
@@bbcdt4 Who do you kick off the team? That's a tough one, I don't know, maybe the INJURED PLAYER!
Sure, if you don't care about the WNBA, the players, or the USA Women's basketball team and you want them to be irrelevant - then definitely Caitlin should recharge and skip the Olympics!
@@bbcdt4this is my only problem. The reasons they gave were inherently false, and have been proven to be the exact opposite in something like 4 of the last 7 Olympic gold medal runs they’ve had. Their point also continues to fall apart once people know Clark has competed in the U18 USAW Olympic basketball team.
It’s just disingenuous & comes off as petty jealousy to leave her off, that they’d rather take an injured player with “chemistry” rather than take one of the elite athletes of your league and develop that chemistry.
@@hiataki7that’s y she’s an alternate. If the injured player can’t go CC will. But if she’s able to play then CC can’t go. Simple!
Simple 5 bullet points that merits CC's inclusion in the Olympic team
1. #11 and #12 are going to be perennial bench warmers and at worst break the glass 5 min game time players
2. 2028 Olympics is at home and all American teams will be expected to win Gold esp basketball teams.... The pressure will be higher playing at home with those expectations
3. Clark could realistically be integral part of that '28 team and could use the valuable experience from current Olympics
4. It is traditional to include college basketball player of the year in the Olympic team which is why Laettner was part of the '92 dream team... Why do we think that is a tradition...
5. Women's basketball could use more eyeballs and not just WNBA... That's patently obvious to even a 5 yr old... Here was the opportunity and the Olympic committee with no vision or foresight has just blown it...
How does David Samson tell the guy IN the room, what happened? Skip's best response was "No, you're wrong". Skip explains what he experienced and leaves room that things may be different since he's left. Dave tells you what he assumes happened, because of extrapolations from other assumptions. Skip has a lot of patience, not to just walk out or treat Dave like the child he is.
Tim Tebow was a decent player but no teams signed him because they didnt want to deal with the media circus. Cailtin will probably become the greatest player in WNBA history EVENTUALLY, but right now she'd be about as useful to a team as Tebow was. Not wanting the distraction is a valid reason for not taking a player, and teams in every league make decisions like that all the time.
I hate that people automatically say CC isn't one of the top 12 players in the WNBA. CC is avg more reb, asst,steals, blocks, ft%, and 3 pt fg% than Taurasi, Plum, and ionesciu. Pts....Plum 18 pts, ionesciu 17 CC AND Taurasi 16. So yes their is an argument to.make that she is better than these guards who were chosen ahead of her.
What metric are John & david using to hypothesize that Catlin would have a major financial & viewership impact on an international event?
Caitlin Clark was not named as Thee alternate. She is a pool of alternates. It would depend what player is injured on who they would choose to bring in to play at that position.
This is a great segment. Could be longer. Nice to hear the insider stuff
Great discussion
Pablo “ you are trampling my segues”. Samson “ cough cough cough”.
I hope Team USA changes their decision, but the Caitlin Clark doesn't accept
Thst will be a double Middle Finger to that Selection Committee
How about if she wants to another national team that would be hilarious, but it would suck for her in the long run because from my understanding once you play for another national team if you can’t play for team USA?
Caitlyn Clark will be so embarrassed if they now back down and fenagle a way for her to now be on Olympic Team! And if this happens, how will she feel if the players give her the cold shoulder or resent this back move retraction! Its done! They made the Wrong move, going back is just as bad, and puts Caitlyn in a horrible position! Who wants to be on a team that didnt want you! And only takes you because of backlash! It could totally ruin Caitlyns future Olympic dream if she goes as backup now!😮
And she has achieved all that IN SPITE of the efforts to drag her down. Clark is the real deal. Angel Reese? Just a very jealous woman with a race chip on her shoulder. Hate only carries you so far, Angel.
As an accountant u would definitely separate a lump sum Purchase an Allocate percentage of cost to each specific asset.. Bcuz lets say u discontinue a segment of the lump sum purchase.. You can not just conjure up a loss to be recognized n recorded… So WNBA was valued ?? So that isn’t mandatory during purchase process but it is when those Accounting Records appear.. Probably in the Note Disclosure
If i am Nike, Gatorade and Wilson, every commercial i submit to be played on the Olympics would not feature Caitlin Clark ONLY, and not have any mention of Team USA. This woukd be in my best long term value.
The TV deal needs to pay one figure for Fever games and another for everyone else. Or be a strict dollars for ratings deal. So you had better SCHEDULE games with CC playing.
Women’s USA ball has been dominate with how they choose teams, but let’s change that to the men’s all star based system that has not been as successful.
Why are they calling Clark not being on the Olympic team a snub? As if she's entitled to be on it.
Broadcasters SHOULD 🚫 NOT be involved in team selection. The best system was as follows:
1. College Players would be invited to Tryouts to make the team.
2. Through a series of "workouts" and Exhibition Games a team would be selected.
Believe it or not people like Charles Barkley and Pete Maravich got cut from Olympic Teams.
Broadcasters need to STAY IN THEIR LANE. Simple as that.
Gosh this is appointment viewing every time
Considering the marketing impact and overall revenue loss (both in jersey & merch sales and viewership), Team USA should have included Caitlin Clark. She’s no pushover, and USA will win gold with CC playing garbage time same as any 12th player spot but they will lose a lot of $$$ without CC.
I feel bad for Caitlin that she has become a culture war fixture...
Diana Taurasi was put on Team USA before she played 1 second in the WNBA. Taurasi played for UConn, a team that has won 11 national championships. Iowa has made the championship game twice.
Clark is a rookie averaging 4 turnovers per game. Her team is 4 wins 10 losses. She must earn her place and not just get the position because of her skin color...OOPS!
She is not among the 15-20 best players in the professional ranks, and has not earned the privilege of that team.
Down the road...
You think we or NBC cares?
Why isn’t Arike Ogunwalobe on the team? 2nd in scoring leads the wnba in steals
She CC is the best player in NCAA that score a record 3951 points in 4 years .If US Olympic selected other NCAA players such Turasi in 2012 and other 2 others after 2012 why not select CC who has scored more points than other NCAA both men and women players .
Sampson, can you do a segment on the awful new Tropicana field! 🙏🏽🫡Badayup
If you go with pure Olympic Ideal, then Diana Taurasi STAYS HOME. She is not as good as Caitlyn Clark anymore.
How is it a snub when she’s barely able to handle the physicality of the wnba?
What tells you she not handling physicality? Will the Olympics chespshot her too? 😂😂
@@SYLABDULPODthere have been minimal cheap shots, and while unfortunate, possession by possession proves that she struggles with physicality. She struggles when being pressured on ball, can’t fight over screens consistently and she’s thin. Mens and women’s international ball is more physical than US. It’s okay that she’s not ready yet and they can build the 28 team around her and the games are in LA. She’ll be fine!
Your business acumen is showing …it’s non existent
@@jaylucas8352but you can literally watch Caitlin twice a week in the WNBA. It’s not like leaving her off the team prevents you from seeing her at all.
the W doesnt have enough teams for an in-season tournament
wnba doesn't wants fans
I don’t understand the “growing the game” aspect. I could understand in 1992 when there was like 5 channels and no internet. But it’s 2024 if you didn’t know about women’s basketball I don’t think this Olympics would motivate people to watch.
Is Caitlin signed up for the Unrivaled league? If she did would the players in the WNBA be treating Caitlin better?
44:42 so based on this discussion, when and are we getting 2 NBA expansion teams in Seattle & Las Vegas?
Shortly after the new tv deal kicks in. Less than 5 years for sure
Diana Taurasi is not a top 12 player.
Take Pablo forever to get the conversation started. I don't have much time left on this earth. Please respect mortality.
David needs to stop lying, Caitlyn is still going to the Olympics, and the chiefs were gonna cut the kicker and hat said NOTHING offensive, 😂😂😂, go back to destroying MLB teams 🤣🤣
Salty washed up aunties. If Kobe was still in the league at 42, he’d give the youngsters a chance to play for team USA. It’s called being the wise elder statesman, and he grew into that role beautifully.
Why doesn't David understand the difference between a meritocracy and an oligarchy?
Rights owners should have ZERO influence in team memberships.
I think it was Christine Brennan as well that said that after she broke the story she was getting calls from media around the world that were stunned and disappointed Clark wasn't going to be there, countries like New Zealand that have never covered the sport. That's the level of stardom she is at. By covering her team, the sport itself is raised just by her presence. That's an incredibly hard thing to discount for a sport that is still trying to grow its audience to the point of profitability. Dealer's choice if that is enough to have her on the team or not.
Skipper at the end started naming NWSL cites and not WNBA cities. I would appreciate this conversation more if there was at least one person involved has seen more than 5 WNBA games and has a working knowledge of the league.
The US Women Basketball team has won 7 straight Gold Medals, and will lose final/not win gold medal soon. As the Women's Soccer team found out in 2019 the rest of world had caught up with them. Even though they did win 2019 World Cup, convenient penalties & emergence of Rose Lavelle & Carli Lloyd clutch goals, what happened in Olympics and 2023 WC. The WNBA players play in Europe as seasons are opposite of each other and know there are nations and players who are just as good and it will be tough to win 8th straight gold medal in Paris!
If the Gold medal streak ends this summer the story will be that generation had a great historic run and success! HAHA !! Of course it will go back to Clark!
Being serious look at the future of women's team: Boston, Clark, Reese, Brink...plus the best players from 2025 -27 drafts, all have great players. So in big picture the only question is if US women win Gold Medal, and the new generation will be competing for 9th straight Gold in 2028? Or will they be trying to win back the gold and begin their own legacy for their generation?
🏀 I hope you are right. NBC executives need to demand she be put on the team.
Doesn’t seem like this Caitlyn Clark fever is actually about growing the nba and has instead just turned into growing her own brand and following
Lebron was on an Olympic team his rookie year…they won the Bronze. No issue with her being thrown on the team for ratings but only if this team is projected to win like all their games by like 20 anyways.
12:15 john is so funny i love southern accents
suddenly we want meritocracy now when talking about blacks. what about the pilots, what about the university acceptance rate? if we do meritocracy I kinda agree but not only with political narratives.
fyi, LISA BLUDER (former IOWA Women Head Coach) SAID TO HAVE MET WITH INDIANA FEVER OWNER MR.SIMONS !!!
NBC been promoting A’ja Wilson. They’ve filmed promos with her.
And the WNBA has lost millions and millions of dollars every single year they've been in business. So let’s keep doing it like that.
They did this on purpose. Talking points, stay in the news. There will be injuries. She'll be there.
It really is crazy to see people not getting it. CC is feeding everyone. Either get on or move out the fckn way