This among companions argument is getting really old. 'A'isha reported: I heard that never a prophet dies until he is given an option to opt the life of (this) world or that of the Hereafter. She further said: I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) say in his last illness in which he' died. I heard him saying in gruffness of the voice: Along with those persons upon whom Allah bestowed favours from amongst the Apostles, the testifiers of truth, the martyrs, the pious and goodly company are they (iv. 69). (It was on bearing these words) that I thought that he had been given choice (and he opted to live with these pious persons in the Paradise). [ Sahih Muslim 2444c] Would the Prophet Muhammad SAW be praying to BECOME one of them or BE WITH them? The Prophet Muhammad SAW did the tafseer for the ayat himself. Yet Ahmadis think they're more capable of tafseer?
The point the guest made about Martyrs are dead and their company is referring to Jannah. This was an excellent point. Masha Allah. I feel Brother Khalid wants to be too logical and his 1+1= 0
Khalid said " The Last Mosque cannot literally mean the last, therefore the last prophet cannot mean the final prophet". 😂 No matter how many Hadith you supply to prove that LAST MOSQUE means Last of a mosque established by a prophet of Allah SWT. Deliberate rejection to fit Mirza in. Last means High as in High Court😂 😂😂
Also there is a hadith mentioning that Rasulullah prohibit a traveling for ibadah except to the 3 blessing mosque. With this hadith it is made clear by the sahabat. So funny when a cherry picking metaphorical applied by this qadiani cult.
It is so strange that Khalid Safar would say Prophet Muhammad SAW was the Best prophet and he Sealed other prophets through his Cygnet ring? Is that what he said? But he is not following the BEST prophet nor did Goolam Mirza. In fact, he does not even know what Goolam Mirza truly believed. Question for brother Khalid to ponder on. Is it logical to make masaah over socks during wudhu when the conditions are met.? No, it is not logical, so I guess Khalid does not follow this rule either. Surah 3 verse 7 talks about the likes of Khalid who seek interpretations other than their true meanings. Allah SWT has blessed us with documented sound Hadith and a preserved Quran. Alhamdulillah. Truth prevails.
And he doesn't understand Quran and Sunnah more importantly, the revelation is above your logic and intellect, once you confirm that the Quran is from Allah, your logic is under the Quran, but this ignorant individual isn't only inconsistent, he also has no respect for his own (false) Prophet Mirza Ghulam who said the same thing, that if the Quran and Sunnah say something and your logic and intellect is telling you there must be something wrong, be rest assured that it is your logic and intellect which has erred.
The Syrian guynis praising the writings then doesn't know the context, dates, or title of the book? What??? Are you serious bro? Attacking Qur an? And he will ask his friend? Come on man why are you in the stream if you are uncertain about the context of your belief. Is it just to show that you are an arab and arab becomes qadiani? So it's just salestalk? May Allah guide you
124k prophet why need to stop? Because prophet mohammad S. A. W said there will be no prophet after me. He quoted a weak hadith then jumped again to Quran isn't that cherry picking? So meaning there is prophet coming again? Are you guys Qadiani going to follow another prophet after MGA?
Khalid the argument you are making at 55:59 is not correct as per the text you are showing, the verse explicitly mentions the four ranks to be given through believing in Allah and following the Holy Prophet. You began with this verse without clarifying that according to Ahmadis, Tashriee Law bearing prophethood has come to an end with the coming of the Holy Prophet. or else if you just begin with the premise that 4:70 means prophets can come it gives a message prophethood in its entirety is open !! Thats is not the Ahmadiyya view. you have unintentionally maybe have forgot to mention the complete Ahmadiyya View.
Quran 33:40 "Muḥammad is not the father of any of your men,1 but is the Messenger of Allah and the seal of the prophets. And Allah has ˹perfect˺ knowledge of all things."
Poor zuriatul baghaya has not read mirza kadiyani Shatanikhazain and keep saying itis logical or illogical or I don't know what you are doing here he can't read urdu can't read arabi he also lie can't speak urdu when his parents are paklstanes. Khaleeed is blody bigger Lair then mirza kadiyani dujal and imposter. لعنت اللہ علی الکاذبین کہو آمین ثم آمین
Musaylimah, who claimed to be a prophet from the tribe of Banu Hanifah asked Abu Bakr ra to sit with him and listen to what he has to say to support his claim to prophethood. Basically the same as a debate like brother Bashir Allah bless him is doing. Guess what Abu Bakr ra reply and reaction was?
@justthetruth i just went through lecture sialkot there is nothing of that sort to suggest he is the last prophet. rather he says: The words, 'As He made successors from among those who were before them', are particularly worthy of note, for they lead us to understand that the dispensation of Muhammadsa resembles the dispensation of Moses's. Since the Mosaic dispensation ended with a Prophet namely Jesusas. -who appeared at the turn of the fourteenth century after Moses™, and did not wage any war or Jihad, it was therefore essential that the last Khalifah of the dispensation of Muhammads should appear in the same spirit. p18
Surah Baqarah 1&4 This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allāh *And who believe in what has been REVEALED TO YOU , [O Muḥammad], and what was REVEALED BEFORE YOU , and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. @Khalid. Verse 4 does not mention that we must believe in WHAT WAS GOING TO BE REVEALED AFTER. Because no relevations was to come AFTER Prophet Muhammad SAW. As Muslims, we are obliged to believe in the Quran and previous scriptures and whatever was revealed to previous prophets. Mirza claimed many revelations.??? Well, no mention of him so you should reject him.
KHALID PLEASE DONT EVEN MENTION SPEAKERS CORNER 😅😅😅 YOU ALWAYS LOST OF WORDS AND IF ANY MUSLIMS YOU HAD TRIED TO TALK TO WHEN THEY THROW QUESTIONS AT YOU THAT'S ALL WE HEAR WAFFLING.HAHA😅😅😅😅
It is very apparent the Qadyani do not pray the Quran every day. I would advise everyone to pray Surah Mulk every night. Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “There is a chapter in the Quran, not but thirty verses, which will argue on behalf of its companion until he enters Paradise. It is the chapter: Blessed is He in whose hand is the dominion.” (67:1) Source: al-Mu’jam al-Awsaṭ 3667
Brother Bashir this balding guy Khalid Safir has no knowledge or understanding of his own religion/cult. You did a good job going step by step but this guys skips the points you are making and jumps to what he wants to explain. And every thing is "funny thing" to him, he is condescending and shady like all fanatic qadiyanis. How can you not understand simplest of the hadiths and he is a math teacher, this guy is not worth your time. I like that you inquired, got references and dates and who wrote it or commentary was from. JazakAllah khair.
'no muslim believe that there will be last prophet'. Astaghfirullah 🤦🏻🤦🏻 This khalid guy was making so many strawman argument and so many of his belief points out how his ignorance on the basic teaching of Islam.
What nonsense this guy fact check is, now Pakistan will decide who is truthful or who is mehdi,when you can already see Pakistan as a country is a failure. Instead of asking allah for help he asking mullahs when pbuh already said later day mullahs will be the badtareen maklukhs . Have some shame and ask for guidance to allah .
@@sensefirst475 esa is dead not coming back he isn't alive for 2000 + years in heavens sorry but that's the truth. Please ask allah for signs and pray to him and ask for the truth. The Messiah has come . Read his books yourself not the anti ahmadi once which is full of lies and deceit don't be afraid to read his books authentic once. Allah hafiz
@sanjurotenzuka4248 (4:159) There are none among the People of the Book but will believe in him before his death, and he will be a witness against them on the Day of Resurrection. Yh as if he's dead considering jews and christians are about and even if Prophet Isa is dead it wouldn't even help mirza one bit considering that disastrous false prophecy of Muhammadi Begum which is a valid reason to not believe
Proceedings of the Assembly August 5, 1974 Mirza Nasir's first Bongi Attorney General Yahya Bakhtiar Question When and where was Mirza Ghulam Qadiani born, what was his education, family background and date and place of death? Answer by Mirza Nasir Regarding this, I will request that time be given to me. I will submit what I wrote to you tomorrow.
Khalid doesn't want to soeak academically so meaning there is no justification, meaning blind faith. SubhaAllah
Well done brother Bashir JazakAllah
He missed parts of Hadith and ayat, he’s imposed his own interpretation too, wow
This among companions argument is getting really old.
'A'isha reported:
I heard that never a prophet dies until he is given an option to opt the life of (this) world or that of the Hereafter. She further said: I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) say in his last illness in which he' died. I heard him saying in gruffness of the voice: Along with those persons upon whom Allah bestowed favours from amongst the Apostles, the testifiers of truth, the martyrs, the pious and goodly company are they (iv. 69). (It was on bearing these words) that I thought that he had been given choice (and he opted to live with these pious persons in the Paradise). [ Sahih Muslim 2444c]
Would the Prophet Muhammad SAW be praying to BECOME one of them or BE WITH them?
The Prophet Muhammad SAW did the tafseer for the ayat himself. Yet Ahmadis think they're more capable of tafseer?
Has there been any critical studies done on the Arabic of Mirza Ghulam?
yes, by Hani Tahir.
@@ahmadiyyafactcheckblog884031:04 Thank you
The point the guest made about Martyrs are dead and their company is referring to Jannah. This was an excellent point. Masha Allah. I feel Brother Khalid wants to be too logical and his 1+1= 0
I agree!!!
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Khalid said " The Last Mosque cannot literally mean the last, therefore the last prophet cannot mean the final prophet". 😂 No matter how many Hadith you supply to prove that LAST MOSQUE means Last of a mosque established by a prophet of Allah SWT. Deliberate rejection to fit Mirza in. Last means High as in High Court😂 😂😂
Also there is a hadith mentioning that Rasulullah prohibit a traveling for ibadah except to the 3 blessing mosque. With this hadith it is made clear by the sahabat.
So funny when a cherry picking metaphorical applied by this qadiani cult.
Your interpretation is so stupid. 🤣
Dajjal and kazzab is the qadiyani
It is so strange that Khalid Safar would say Prophet Muhammad SAW was the Best prophet and he Sealed other prophets through his Cygnet ring? Is that what he said? But he is not following the BEST prophet nor did Goolam Mirza. In fact, he does not even know what Goolam Mirza truly believed. Question for brother Khalid to ponder on. Is it logical to make masaah over socks during wudhu when the conditions are met.? No, it is not logical, so I guess Khalid does not follow this rule either.
Surah 3 verse 7 talks about the likes of Khalid who seek interpretations other than their true meanings. Allah SWT has blessed us with documented sound Hadith and a preserved Quran. Alhamdulillah. Truth prevails.
If prophets were to come after Muhammad SAW, why there is only Mirza? One and only Mirza? No one before Mirza Ghulam - No one after him?
Yes, for 1300 years the Muslims were misguided by the Arabs😂
This math teacher doesn't understand what the definition of Martyr is.
And he doesn't understand Quran and Sunnah more importantly, the revelation is above your logic and intellect, once you confirm that the Quran is from Allah, your logic is under the Quran, but this ignorant individual isn't only inconsistent, he also has no respect for his own (false) Prophet Mirza Ghulam who said the same thing, that if the Quran and Sunnah say something and your logic and intellect is telling you there must be something wrong, be rest assured that it is your logic and intellect which has erred.
The Syrian guynis praising the writings then doesn't know the context, dates, or title of the book? What??? Are you serious bro? Attacking Qur an? And he will ask his friend? Come on man why are you in the stream if you are uncertain about the context of your belief. Is it just to show that you are an arab and arab becomes qadiani? So it's just salestalk? May Allah guide you
hilarious!
Hada mano Souri, hada fashil wu ni7na mnizbilo bzbaleh .
124k prophet why need to stop? Because prophet mohammad S. A. W said there will be no prophet after me. He quoted a weak hadith then jumped again to Quran isn't that cherry picking? So meaning there is prophet coming again? Are you guys Qadiani going to follow another prophet after MGA?
Khalid the argument you are making at 55:59 is not correct as per the text you are showing, the verse explicitly mentions the four ranks to be given through believing in Allah and following the Holy Prophet.
You began with this verse without clarifying that according to Ahmadis, Tashriee Law bearing prophethood has come to an end with the coming of the Holy Prophet. or else if you just begin with the premise that 4:70 means prophets can come it gives a message prophethood in its entirety is open !!
Thats is not the Ahmadiyya view. you have unintentionally maybe have forgot to mention the complete Ahmadiyya View.
Quran 33:40 "Muḥammad is not the father of any of your men,1 but is the Messenger of Allah and the seal of the prophets. And Allah has ˹perfect˺ knowledge of all things."
These people represent brown Christians
Poor zuriatul baghaya has not read mirza kadiyani Shatanikhazain and keep saying itis logical or illogical or I don't know what you are doing here he can't read urdu can't read arabi he also lie can't speak urdu when his parents are paklstanes. Khaleeed is blody bigger Lair then mirza kadiyani dujal and imposter. لعنت اللہ علی الکاذبین کہو آمین ثم آمین
Mr Jamal Uddin you are a legend 👍💪
Uncle Jamal.. Not all British Pakistanis can speak Urdu. Let us give him the benefit of the doubt.
Musaylimah, who claimed to be a prophet from the tribe of Banu Hanifah asked Abu Bakr ra to sit with him and listen to what he has to say to support his claim to prophethood. Basically the same as a debate like brother Bashir Allah bless him is doing. Guess what Abu Bakr ra reply and reaction was?
Wow Ahmadiyaa in Jordan! So, Arabs too can be fooled so easily hahaha Pathetic..
@justthetruth i just went through lecture sialkot there is nothing of that sort to suggest he is the last prophet.
rather he says:
The words, 'As He made successors from among those who were before them', are particularly worthy of note, for they lead us to understand that the dispensation of Muhammadsa resembles the dispensation of Moses's. Since the Mosaic dispensation ended with a Prophet namely Jesusas.
-who appeared at the turn of the fourteenth century after Moses™, and did not wage any war or Jihad, it was therefore essential that the last Khalifah of the dispensation of Muhammads should appear in the same spirit. p18
This khalid safir guy is always taking Ls
Bro couldn't stand for 5 mins in front of Br Adnan Rashid. enjoyed his humiliation!!
Ahmadi Muslim is oxymoron.
Bro one of you Ahmadi streams got
To add me.
Insha Allah!
Surah Baqarah 1&4
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allāh
*And who believe in what has been REVEALED TO YOU , [O Muḥammad], and what was REVEALED BEFORE YOU , and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith].
@Khalid.
Verse 4 does not mention that we must believe in WHAT WAS GOING TO BE REVEALED AFTER. Because no relevations was to come AFTER Prophet Muhammad SAW. As Muslims, we are obliged to believe in the Quran and previous scriptures and whatever was revealed to previous prophets.
Mirza claimed many revelations.??? Well, no mention of him so you should reject him.
SunhanALLAH this guy is so lost with his Logic
KHALID PLEASE DONT EVEN MENTION SPEAKERS CORNER 😅😅😅 YOU ALWAYS LOST OF WORDS AND IF ANY MUSLIMS YOU HAD TRIED TO TALK TO WHEN THEY THROW QUESTIONS AT YOU THAT'S ALL WE HEAR WAFFLING.HAHA😅😅😅😅
They dont throw questions they just insult
It is very apparent the Qadyani do not pray the Quran every day. I would advise everyone to pray Surah Mulk every night.
Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “There is a chapter in the Quran, not but thirty verses, which will argue on behalf of its companion until he enters Paradise. It is the chapter: Blessed is He in whose hand is the dominion.” (67:1)
Source: al-Mu’jam al-Awsaṭ 3667
Brother Bashir this balding guy Khalid Safir has no knowledge or understanding of his own religion/cult. You did a good job going step by step but this guys skips the points you are making and jumps to what he wants to explain. And every thing is "funny thing" to him, he is condescending and shady like all fanatic qadiyanis. How can you not understand simplest of the hadiths and he is a math teacher, this guy is not worth your time.
I like that you inquired, got references and dates and who wrote it or commentary was from. JazakAllah khair.
'no muslim believe that there will be last prophet'. Astaghfirullah 🤦🏻🤦🏻
This khalid guy was making so many strawman argument and so many of his belief points out how his ignorance on the basic teaching of Islam.
I think your cat has more logic than this ahmedis😅
The sahaba never have taught what this guy is saying so “logically” this guy must be wrong
Bashir you was never Ex Ahmadi let
Me investigate u,what was your Aims ID and what Jamaat you was from?
Why did Mirza enjoy having his followers wives massage his legs ?
Aims ID 😂😂😂 the Ahmaddiya members have their own I.D 😂😂 if this isn't clear sign of a cult what else is !!
What nonsense this guy fact check is, now Pakistan will decide who is truthful or who is mehdi,when you can already see Pakistan as a country is a failure. Instead of asking allah for help he asking mullahs when pbuh already said later day mullahs will be the badtareen maklukhs . Have some shame and ask for guidance to allah .
There are good scholars as well as bad scholars. Mirza Ghulam was one among the badthareen makhlook!
@@sensefirst475 esa is dead not coming back he isn't alive for 2000 + years in heavens sorry but that's the truth. Please ask allah for signs and pray to him and ask for the truth. The Messiah has come . Read his books yourself not the anti ahmadi once which is full of lies and deceit don't be afraid to read his books authentic once. Allah hafiz
Mirza loved wine and opium...how can he be a Prophet?
@@Ra3bAbdulRa7man that is all a lie and atleast before being a keyboard warrior please do some research yourself. Read authentic books
@sanjurotenzuka4248 (4:159) There are none among the People of the Book but will believe in him before his death, and he will be a witness against them on the Day of Resurrection.
Yh as if he's dead considering jews and christians are about and even if Prophet Isa is dead it wouldn't even help mirza one bit considering that disastrous false prophecy of Muhammadi Begum which is a valid reason to not believe
I would advise bashir not to give platform for these ahmady kafirs who are preachers or clerics....deal with ordinary qadiyanis
Both started with bla bla bla bla ....absolut missionary BS ....not impressed with their kufr
Proceedings of the Assembly
August 5, 1974
Mirza Nasir's first Bongi
Attorney General Yahya Bakhtiar
Question
When and where was Mirza Ghulam Qadiani born, what was his education, family background and date and place of death?
Answer by Mirza Nasir
Regarding this, I will request that time be given to me. I will submit what I wrote to you tomorrow.