EXPLAINED: Man City and Premier League BOTH claim victory in legal case over commercial deals

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  • Опубликовано: 8 окт 2024
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    Sky Sports News chief reporter Kaveh Solhekol explains how Manchester City and the Premier League have both claimed victory in their legal battle over commercial rules.
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Комментарии • 501

  • @bplol8383
    @bplol8383 День назад +387

    just dock everton 10 points already lads

  • @almsivi123
    @almsivi123 День назад +276

    I'll save you a click, its nothing to do with the 115 charges

    • @andy56018
      @andy56018 День назад +16

      Shows PL are corrupt.

    • @Mettiott
      @Mettiott День назад +2

      ty lol i got confused

    • @Smilejustsmilebby
      @Smilejustsmilebby День назад +3

      I've already clicked by the time I see your comment

    • @MarKinDey
      @MarKinDey День назад +3

      It is the benchmark fir the 115

    • @Stataze
      @Stataze День назад

      EXPLAINED: Man City and Premier League BOTH claim victory in legal case over commercial deals

  • @thekeccles1996
    @thekeccles1996 День назад +63

    The verdict: "The Tribunal ruled that there was an unreasonable delay in the Premier League’s fair market value assessment of two of City's sponsorship transactions, and so the Premier League breached its own rules."
    People are acting like City's money is what's won them this case, but it's not like the PL doesn't have its own army of highly-paid lawyers. If you actually read the statements that have been put out it's pretty clear the PL have failed to instate rules that are lawful under the requirements of UK competition law. They are in the wrong here.

    • @gingermanc98
      @gingermanc98 День назад +22

      Shhhh you're not supposed to make sense and be reasonable on the internet, people have agendas to push

    • @randyvalantino6850
      @randyvalantino6850 День назад +3

      Makes you think what will happen about city not cooperating with the premier league over the 115 . Not just unreasonable delay city with held info

    • @emmanuelowusu-ansah2625
      @emmanuelowusu-ansah2625 День назад +7

      ​@@gingermanc98that's the problem we have in this internet generation. More bait and engagement than truth and honesty

    • @thekeccles1996
      @thekeccles1996 День назад

      @@randyvalantino6850 May be interesting, though I'm unsure if the tribunal/court settings are the same for that case.
      Additionally, with the ruling of this case, as well the PL's prior failings to keep what should be private financial info away from the public eye, City may be able to argue that their noncooperation with the PL in such a matter is justifiable.
      I'm not certain this case will have much impact on the FFP charges case in general.

    • @randyvalantino6850
      @randyvalantino6850 День назад +4

      @@thekeccles1996 Still for city to say the premier league took time over sponsorship deals but for them not to cooperate at all when it comes to financial information is double standards, all the other clubs cooperated . I dont blame the league giving them there own medicine . Would you rush for someone with holding information you asked for .

  • @laurensteel1279
    @laurensteel1279 День назад +68

    What is interesting is the blatant oversight of the issue of shareholder loans. It appears that half the league are indebted to their shareholders after flooding money into the club via 'loan' (*cough Arsenal 200mil shareholder 'loan'). Everyone is breaching or bending the rules!

    • @nands111
      @nands111 День назад +7

      Arsenals shareholder loan is refinanced stadium debt. It wouldn't even count towards PSR rules anyway because it's classified as infrastructure spending so it's excluded.

    • @jagsingh9303
      @jagsingh9303 День назад +1

      Somehow you find a way to bring up Arsenal, when the real cheaters have been UTD for the 2000s and City in the last decade.

    • @Phos_82
      @Phos_82 День назад

      ​@jagsingh9303 yet here you are talking about United 😅 if you knew absolutely anything about football you would know we're not better off for being in debt, luckily we're the biggest club in the world so we make good money and that why we can spend.. and we actually own our stadium.

    • @saha-q5z
      @saha-q5z День назад +3

      @@Phos_82your deluded if you think your the biggest club in the world 😂😂

    • @Phos_82
      @Phos_82 День назад

      @@saha-q5z you're x2.*
      Biggest Club in the World. 🌎

  • @mark3210f
    @mark3210f 22 часа назад +13

    PL didn’t care less when Mike Ashley paid £0 for sports direct all over the stadium.. where was the fair market value then 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @jrisner6535
      @jrisner6535 18 часов назад +4

      That's the other way around, no benefit to Newcastle

    • @chy.0190
      @chy.0190 16 часов назад

      Sports Direct was not an inflated sponsorship to funnel in money, it in fact was fair market value unlike them Arab companies with no workers lmao

  • @ATierney85
    @ATierney85 День назад +11

    Thank you for recognizing that this all started to purely squash Newcastle

  • @brianmccarthy7768
    @brianmccarthy7768 День назад +144

    How can the PL claim victory after being found to have acted unlawfully? Laughable

    • @justthetruth1
      @justthetruth1 День назад +6

      Because there were different aspects of it.

    • @ITSPROLLYAKBARI
      @ITSPROLLYAKBARI День назад +9

      it says why in the article. If you actually read past the headlines, it's a major win for the premier league

    • @environm3ntalist549
      @environm3ntalist549 День назад +11

      @@ITSPROLLYAKBARI lol. It's not a win for the EPL!

    • @sfb4144
      @sfb4144 День назад +8

      ​@@ITSPROLLYAKBARI give us a brief explaination then. And is this a neutral 'article'?

    • @cd.03.38
      @cd.03.38 День назад +1

      🎉Surprising? Every 1 expected this. 😅 EPL have no balls like la liga.

  • @eL--RaL
    @eL--RaL День назад +84

    It's hilarious how rivals are so desperate for City to get punished that they aren't willing to understand and make their research well on the supposed charges..They just want City out of the way so they could win something 😂

    • @Rowan_0161
      @Rowan_0161 День назад +23

      Exactly, they love to say city have cheated but when it turns out the prem have been making rules that go against competitive laws the fans back it, FFP and APT were put in place to "make the leagues competitive" note that clubs like man U have used Assosiated party transactions AIG in the past and all three of the red cartel have benefited hugely from outside investment spending more then anyone else so to have the opinion that the league was fair and competitive befor FFP is a joke and to say that FFP wasn't targeting City is delusional.

    • @ToTheMaxGaming1
      @ToTheMaxGaming1 День назад +8

      I’m sure they’re innocent of all charges just like Diddy

    • @Rowan_0161
      @Rowan_0161 День назад +3

      ​@@ToTheMaxGaming1 1/3 of them are for not cooperating so not all of them but you can't say we are guilty of them, don't forget this all came about because of hacked emails

    • @Support-your-local-team
      @Support-your-local-team День назад

      Most rivals of Man City have confirmation bias that makes them believe they're definitely guilty without actually knowing that. Most supporters of Man City have confirmation bias that makes them believe they're definitely innocent without actually knowing that. I'm sure the OP wouldn't disagree with either of those statements

    • @theknightofdoom260
      @theknightofdoom260 День назад +9

      If city were 14th and had their worst start for years no one would care but seeing they are the greatest team in the world (well maybe 2nd) of course all the other clubs care....Oh and hahahahaha.

  • @teddysheckler1817
    @teddysheckler1817 День назад +11

    So they changed the rules because Newcastle got took over and they were scared? So they then changed the rules to benefit the red cartel?? This has opened up way more than the Premier League would’ve wanted.

    • @connor7162
      @connor7162 День назад

      The corruption is absolutely insane. Bringing in rules purely to stop a club spending money that they literally have. At the same time Chelsea spending over a billion absolutely no questions asked

    • @Mikejames1080
      @Mikejames1080 10 часов назад

      This has been going on for years. I'm glad the 💩 has hit the fan

    • @pjdilans1
      @pjdilans1 9 часов назад

      Would of been easier to just accept the inevitability of Newcastle 😂
      Instead they've created a hell of a problem. I mean what do they expect to happen Newcastle was ran on a shoe string budget by businessman Mike Ashley. So the club was in a pretty good financial position even if Ashley lacked total ambition.
      Anyway they changed the rules and hit some unsuspecting clubs. And to be honest I'm coming round to just breaching the rules. So they dock us points one season so what then we've got a mint team for at least the next 5 seasons. They are hampering our progress anywhich way, so let's just get it out the way and crack on.

  • @archivalhorror
    @archivalhorror День назад +34

    PL have to claim victory because if they don't, then when they go home, the tea that Liverpool made them will be purposefully cold, Arsenal will be sat with the TV remote clutched underneath folded arms, and Manchester United will have them sleeping on the sofa tonight.

    • @rijulNangia
      @rijulNangia День назад +1

      Man City and Pep are some of the most corrupt entities in football.

    • @IceClawz.
      @IceClawz. День назад +4

      crying about clubs that have grown and gained success over decades.... bit odd.

    • @Gappymate
      @Gappymate День назад +2

      wtf are you on about?

    • @Beyond_Belief534
      @Beyond_Belief534 День назад +2

      lol exactly
      Its going to be glorious when Newcastle, Everton and Villa knock these pretenders off their entitled perch

    • @AkiraEdits
      @AkiraEdits День назад +1

      or.. because they won on the majority of challenges and also had the tribunal agree that APT rules are necessary.

  • @victormuchori4042
    @victormuchori4042 День назад +29

    cmon citeh..winning on and off the pitch☺☺

  • @happylamola6560
    @happylamola6560 День назад +30

    The premier League didn't forsee man city challenging them

    • @xDarkxez35
      @xDarkxez35 18 часов назад

      Yeah they have the right, they lift epl image globally.

  • @GermanChickenwing
    @GermanChickenwing День назад +46

    City won cases worth 2b while the pl are saying they won some worth 100m😂😂😂..Dont let the pl fool you rivals

    • @Phos_82
      @Phos_82 День назад +2

      Where are you getting this shite from?

    • @GermanChickenwing
      @GermanChickenwing День назад +1

      @Phos_82 You are very slow.. City won the cases that matter the most to City

    • @1wfunston1
      @1wfunston1 21 час назад +1

      What did they win? APT laws still stand; 115 case still pending

    • @GermanChickenwing
      @GermanChickenwing 21 час назад +1

      @@1wfunston1 Doesn't if they are changing it

    • @1wfunston1
      @1wfunston1 21 час назад +1

      @@GermanChickenwing 115 (130) Is a completely separate case. These charges are for acts of fraud and non-compliance that occurred before the new APT rules were introduced in 22/23. This recent case was only about the new APT rules

  • @lionmakunga6715
    @lionmakunga6715 День назад +15

    Nah, PL has been embarrassed. 😂😂

  • @spark556
    @spark556 День назад +15

    City won, let the copium officially begin 🔥

    • @rijulNangia
      @rijulNangia День назад +1

      Everyone knows they corrupt so noone respects city anyways. Even after winning a fraud treble. They can't fill their stadium lol. Plastic fans

    • @tsdvaks
      @tsdvaks День назад +3

      Their tears are so sweet

    • @1wfunston1
      @1wfunston1 21 час назад +4

      What did they win? APT laws still stand; 115 case still pending

    • @chy.0190
      @chy.0190 16 часов назад

      @@1wfunston1 exactly lol these slum dwellers are slow in the head.

  • @TheConorhannan
    @TheConorhannan День назад +55

    Everton got 10 points deducted
    Chelsea got a transfer ban
    Man City get nothing

    • @jonathankennedy1715
      @jonathankennedy1715 День назад +5

      Unbelievable

    • @thekeccles1996
      @thekeccles1996 День назад

      City never admitted to any wrongdoing, and it falls on the "governing bodies" (if you can call them that) to come to the table with proof. Stop acting like their case is the same as other clubs because it's not.

    • @Scrubber89
      @Scrubber89 День назад +21

      How thick can you get. This HELPS Everton Chelsea and Newcastle.

    • @SupaMusicUK
      @SupaMusicUK День назад

      City got £2B compensation

    • @clivehunte3026
      @clivehunte3026 День назад +7

      You have to stand up for what's right, if you don't challenge the PL you get points deducted.

  • @dedede_me_daddy8134
    @dedede_me_daddy8134 День назад +38

    Deduct 10 points from Everton

    • @ΜΝΜ
      @ΜΝΜ День назад

      What happened?

    • @leehobkirk3442
      @leehobkirk3442 День назад

      Wish they could and get your embarrassing club out the league.

  • @s.o2864
    @s.o2864 День назад +14

    Everton must really be thankful to those commercial deals or else they might have been given a 20 point deduction had City been found guilty

  • @shugorchoudhury5376
    @shugorchoudhury5376 День назад +2

    There was no way the Premiere league was going to win given the ripple effect a Premiere league win would have. The money that would leave the league and go elsewhere is unimaginable !

    • @1wfunston1
      @1wfunston1 21 час назад +1

      Where would the money go? Other European leagues are more strict with their rules. Only place for it to go would be the Saudi Pro League (ironically)

  • @pl5914
    @pl5914 День назад +8

    Why do they speak so sloooowly?

    • @fizm4840
      @fizm4840 День назад +2

      Because they're reading the script😊

    • @pl5914
      @pl5914 22 часа назад

      @@fizm4840 even afterwards I had the impression. Makes me feel they either speak like that generally, they need to kill time or want to make it easier for non-native speakers

  • @duckstermcfc
    @duckstermcfc День назад +18

    We have done nothing wrong mcfc best run club ever....

    • @Phos_82
      @Phos_82 День назад +2

      😂😂 🫵🏻🤡 😂😂
      Small club mentality.

    • @nigden1
      @nigden1 22 часа назад

      @@Phos_82 Oh, yet another 12 year old emoji freak.

  • @DarthQueefious
    @DarthQueefious День назад +16

    PL found to be unlawfully favouring certain clubs and they claim victory? haha
    Football is as dirty as politics but at least politicians usually have the decency to resign

    • @TeamCGS2005
      @TeamCGS2005 День назад

      Here's a joke for you. What's the difference between the Glaziers and the Arabs as owners? One's prepared to spend their money. The PL are making out that this is a BAD thing.

    • @chy.0190
      @chy.0190 16 часов назад +1

      Ironic talking about politics and being dirty in a case involving Man City lol

  • @arafatibrahim6343
    @arafatibrahim6343 День назад +27

    What about the 115 charges?

    • @slashthe2nd
      @slashthe2nd День назад +3

      Give it a few months.

    • @mattieharris3747
      @mattieharris3747 День назад +2

      Cause it's a separate charge to this. Could expect December January time for any out come for that

    • @spark556
      @spark556 День назад +4

      @@arafatibrahim6343 Decision is coming around February. They will be significantly influenced by this outcome because what City won here applies to most of those 115 charges

    • @justthetruth1
      @justthetruth1 День назад +2

      ​@@spark556no it doesn't

    • @tm8844
      @tm8844 День назад +3

      ​@@justthetruth1 cry more hater 🍼 😂

  • @rowly1985
    @rowly1985 День назад +1

    The only person that needs to be investigated in overpaying vs fair market value is whoever signs off Kavehs salary. The guy just yaps on and on and on about the same point.

  • @WamoAfrica
    @WamoAfrica День назад +1

    It's very weird to see Premier league fighting so hard to make their league less attractive

  • @jamesrosen1314
    @jamesrosen1314 День назад +31

    115 charges and not a single thing, bullshit mate

    • @callumh1152
      @callumh1152 День назад +20

      the investigation isnt done yet mate is takes up to 8 months

    • @eL--RaL
      @eL--RaL День назад +6

      We all know nothing will happen.. Don't get your hopes up only to get disappointed 😂

    • @mk_scorpion_
      @mk_scorpion_ День назад +15

      This is a different thing to the 115 charges.

    • @PinataOplayz
      @PinataOplayz День назад +1

      Calm down

    • @callumh1152
      @callumh1152 День назад +4

      @@jamesrosen1314 its not even to do with 115, just because the title doesnt say breaking man city relegated, dont start to think they have won the whole court case

  • @jamm8284
    @jamm8284 День назад +4

    Imagine claiming the rules are unlawful thinking you will get rid of them so you can get away with it and it turns out they add another rule to it 😂 then for some reason you claim a victory 🤦🏻‍♂️
    The other clubs will love man city for making them pay interest on their loans when it's ammended and if Pep thought the other clubs were out for Man City, they are now 😂

    • @simonspoke
      @simonspoke День назад

      This ruling basically stops Arsenal and other teams from putting money into their clubs from loans and effectively stopping them from catching up with City financially!
      Basically, they have a win over their rivals through a back door.

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 День назад +1

      ​​@simonspoke Newcastle can buy the hole of city there nothing they can do about it they are richest club in the world

    • @simonspoke
      @simonspoke День назад

      @@andrewwright4195 They can't buy the city if they're not allowed to. 🤷

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 День назад +1

      @@simonspoke city can lose there best players if Newcastle decide I want him ect

    • @andrewwright4195
      @andrewwright4195 День назад

      @@simonspoke what I really want to happen is city and Newcastle to buy real Madrid and Barcelona best players make them cry so much

  • @minigrande1939
    @minigrande1939 День назад +7

    Basically its all Everton's fault

  • @TeamCGS2005
    @TeamCGS2005 День назад +6

    Just remember folks that Chelsea, Newcastle and Everton were witnesses for Man City.
    Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, West Ham, Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham and Wolves provided written statements to support the Premier League's position.

    • @TeamCGS2005
      @TeamCGS2005 День назад +6

      Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, West Ham, Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham and Wolves should therefore not be allowed to benefit from this ruling. They've made their bed, now they can sleep in it.

    • @francesoxberry6816
      @francesoxberry6816 День назад +3

      ​@@TeamCGS2005 Thanks for being nice and clear about your views on the viability of different rules for different teams in the same league bro. Saves the rest of us a lot of time reading your comments.

    • @MyThoughtsAreBelow
      @MyThoughtsAreBelow День назад

      ​@@TeamCGS2005What a stupid argument 😂

    • @rosscleary9110
      @rosscleary9110 День назад

      ​@@TeamCGS2005 Bro names 3 clubs, 2 of which want to spend vast amounts of money unopposed (Newcastle and Chelsea) and the other with a chip on their shoulder (Everton).
      Of course well run clubs like Brentford and Bournemouth are going to oppose the tribe of cheating reprobates.

    • @TeamCGS2005
      @TeamCGS2005 День назад +1

      @@francesoxberry6816 Truth hurts doesn't it? Well we'll see if those clubs who supported the PL's position keep that same position if wealthy owners come in and buy them shall we? I doubt the fans will appreciate being hamstrung.

  • @TLCMEDIA1
    @TLCMEDIA1 День назад +1

    Am I the only one that doesn’t understand the victories here.. I mean, I understand it’s in black and white but it all sounds like a Willy Wonka episode

  • @ztyneisnigh
    @ztyneisnigh 23 часа назад +1

    PL coping hard after being found unlawful. Sad!

  • @LiamEFC.
    @LiamEFC. День назад +1

    Of course Everton and Forest acted as witnesses for City. Why on earth would we ever take the premier leagues side?

    • @chy.0190
      @chy.0190 16 часов назад

      Because you are cucks lol.
      You have the highest amount of loans from owners in PL, yet stood by City to get that rule changed. All in hope for all of the APT rules to be scrapped, which did not even happen. City lost on majority of the challenges.
      Everton have fucked themselves here.

  • @avikarsewpersad9856
    @avikarsewpersad9856 День назад +24

    Money can buy you anything nowadays.

    • @spark556
      @spark556 День назад +14

      Except brain it seems

    • @bdawks4725
      @bdawks4725 День назад

      Low IQ comment

    • @joshuankhunda387
      @joshuankhunda387 День назад

      The world is controlled know that fact

    • @PredHunter83
      @PredHunter83 День назад

      I’ve been saying it for months
      THE RED CARTEL 🇺🇸 WHICH NOT ONLY CONSIST OF THOSE THREE PIRATES 🏴‍☠️, also TOTTENHAM 🇺🇸 CRYTAL PALACE 🇺🇸, EVERTON 🇺🇸, FULLHAM 🇺🇸, IPSWICH 🇺🇸,
      THE PREMIER LEAGUE IS CORRUPTED FILLED WITH THESE YANKEE SCUM

    • @tsdvaks
      @tsdvaks День назад

      It’s been that way

  • @themadpianomanmisc4929
    @themadpianomanmisc4929 День назад +1

    Clubs like brighton who tried to take us down have just been handed a massive loss. No more interest free loans from your owners 😂😂😂😂

  • @craigB8502
    @craigB8502 17 часов назад

    Kaveh's face on the thumbnail essentially means "we have nothing new to say"

  • @redvulpa1324
    @redvulpa1324 День назад +12

    Short of the long.
    City failed to get anything changed apart from getting an agreement that Shareholder loans will also be included with APT calculations.
    The hearing disagreed with City that APT should be scrapped and they disagreed with City that the Premier League refusing their bloated sponsorship deals was the wrong outcome.
    Well done City. Big win! 😂

    • @simonspoke
      @simonspoke День назад +6

      This ruling basically stops Arsenal and other teams from putting money into their clubs from loans and effectively stopping them from catching up with City financially!
      Basically, they have a win over their rivals through a back door.

    • @Blue-ow3ns
      @Blue-ow3ns День назад +1

      do u want some chips with that salt😂

    • @redvulpa1324
      @redvulpa1324 День назад

      ⁠@@simonspokeno it doesn’t. At all. Arsenal owners just say, here’s 200 million, as an interest free loan. To keep the repayments down for the sake of APT, the term of the loan is 999 years.

    • @M-E_123
      @M-E_123 День назад

      ​@simonspoke
      No
      They only have to put those loans on a commercial footing - and charge a standard market rate of interest on those loans.
      Currently that would cost about £8-10m per year.

    • @entername_
      @entername_ День назад +1

      In short this opens the door for city to use the shareholder loan to find a flaw against the prosecution (PL) re the 115 charges. How many of the 115 charges will be admissible is now questionable. It’s not what you know it’s what you can prove. As an Arsenal fan I have no issue with what City have done over the last few years, they’ve had to, to be competitive. Fans don’t care how the incomes generated so long the clubs are kept competitive and City have been trying to catch up with the rest since 2010 and they’ve done a bloody good job of it.

  • @izuchukwuchibuike6807
    @izuchukwuchibuike6807 День назад +10

    WHY DID YOU READ EPL STATEMENT AND DIDN'T READ MANCHESTER CITY'S STATEMENT. ( ALL OF YOU ARE THE SAME. WORKING FOR THE RED CARTEL CLUBS.

    • @larrygoddard2033
      @larrygoddard2033 День назад +3

      My sentiments exactly!!!!

    • @Gasser24769
      @Gasser24769 День назад

      How come I can drive around Manchester an hour before kick off and youse are the biggest club in the world .BUT THERES NO TRAFFIC ON FOOT OR CAR , Come off it ! 😂your club stinks of corruption

    • @izuchukwuchibuike6807
      @izuchukwuchibuike6807 День назад

      @@larrygoddard2033 just look at how the media is quiet. Skysports, talksports. If City were to have lost the case . It will be breaking news every seconds. No other topic will be discussed. They are all gutted. We know they are all working for the red cartel clubs but the end time is here because City will challenge everyone.
      Our Chairman said it. ( I quote " I will deliver my blunt speech in all of these in the end: I can't wait for his speech after everything.

    • @johnpage2975
      @johnpage2975 День назад +1

      You're confused over city's statement, the only big thing city won on was their 2 sponsorships got set aside... SET ASIDE. not granted lol city will still have to reapply under the same apt rules until the changes take effect n even then all it means is they'll get access to the info faster as to why it's rejected. The panel agreed with the reasoning as to why it was declined but not the time it took. Lol loss for city, bigger loss for Everton due to the loans they have.

    • @izuchukwuchibuike6807
      @izuchukwuchibuike6807 День назад

      @@johnpage2975 Man you are just funny . Probably you need a child to educate you. Go and read page 164 of the conclusion. It was written in black and white ( Apt is deemed unlawful) shame on you red cartels .

  • @srb9375
    @srb9375 День назад +5

    City said when they started this process, if successful, they will sue the Premier League for damages. Given the PL’s attitude to the ruling, City should now sue the PL, as they continue to believe they are above the law

    • @johnpage2975
      @johnpage2975 День назад

      Overall the premier league won lol the apt rules are lawful for the most part. Just 2 annex that one of which doesn't involve city at all it's about shareholder loans, the second part is just about sharing info. No big win for city, the rules still exist, and they don't get their inflated sponsorships if anything the rules are just stronger now. Everton are the real losers here, 471m loans from shareholders that now becomes part of psr

    • @DivXDemonRik
      @DivXDemonRik День назад

      Did you not hear the ruling it was the Premier league who thought they were above UK law and the tribunal slapped them down and said it was the Premier league that was unlawful. 😂😂😂😂
      Shut up and pay our legal bills. This case has upheld city and made every other club a little poorer because the have to pay the legal bills that are in the tens of millions. 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @johnpage2975
      @johnpage2975 22 часа назад +1

      @@DivXDemonRik no it didn't. Listen to the whole ruling not just the bits you wanna hear, the only bits that are unlawful are the fact shareholder loans aren't included so now they will be and the 2nd is to do with the time it took the pl to provide reasons why sponsorships were declined. The sponsorships will still be declined and apt still exists only stronger than before

    • @Luke-jd7rf
      @Luke-jd7rf 15 часов назад

      @@johnpage2975exactly city fans coping hard in the comments if anything this makes it better for league

    • @chrisibberson9742
      @chrisibberson9742 10 часов назад

      To make these amendments don’t they need 14 clubs to back it to get them put through?

  • @mattieharris3747
    @mattieharris3747 День назад +1

    The fa loan system is how roman did it at Chelsea for the club to buy players the club pays it back over a period of time

  • @ruwn561
    @ruwn561 День назад +6

    That’s not correct. It wasn’t fair market value. It was what the prem, and the septic 6 thought they were. Not fair at all. Everyone knew this.

  • @eL--RaL
    @eL--RaL День назад +6

    Let's not pretend we all know didn't know Premier league won't do anything to them.. They damn well know City is their heavy hitter in Europe, they know they're the face of prem.. They're prem's cash cow, biggest revenue generators..They couldn't even punish them even if they wanted to 😂

  • @ds_7
    @ds_7 День назад +1

    Come on guys, let’s just ban Everton from the Premier League

  • @tomrobertson5020
    @tomrobertson5020 День назад +1

    I just want someone else, anyone else, to explain this. Sounds like this guy learned to talk last week

  • @PhilomenaMerritt-e5e
    @PhilomenaMerritt-e5e День назад +23

    This vibe is fire!

  • @KevinJohnson-o7h
    @KevinJohnson-o7h День назад +10

    Wheres arsenal point deduction would of broke psr by 200m if stake holder loans was accounted in psr which has been ruled today

    • @MyThoughtsAreBelow
      @MyThoughtsAreBelow День назад

      *would have 😌

    • @jagsingh9303
      @jagsingh9303 День назад

      No they wouldn’t because it was stadium financing - infrastructure is not included.
      Get over your hatred of the classy club.

    • @trevorstatham4451
      @trevorstatham4451 День назад

      @jagsingh9303 know the rules before commenting. Infrastructure IS very much a Part of expenditure and revenue

    • @1wfunston1
      @1wfunston1 21 час назад

      Can't retroactively charge clubs for new rules introduced today

  • @minimeee04
    @minimeee04 День назад

    So which division do they play in next season.

  • @richardf766
    @richardf766 День назад +1

    So in short , APT Rules WILL STAY (with new amendments to follow), However, City will be cleared of the serious ones from 115 Charges as APT deemed unlawful in the current state! Huge Victory for City...I don't think the premier league should embarrass themselves anymore by claiming victory here when City have undermined the whole thing. City found a legal loophole. but we all know the truth

    • @StonyK_
      @StonyK_ 19 часов назад

      Seriously confused (as commented above). You seem pretty sure of the outcome so I ask, the court ruled that self funded sponsorship outside of market value is not allowed but PL rules need changing to include shareholder loans, which they will be now. So there doesn't seem to be any change to the rules that City broke or the one they wanted changing and in fact tighter restrictions are being brought in. From your side what but do you think city are happy with other than potential PR opportunity to say there was a mistake in the PL PSR rules that weve managed to get changed? Clubs like Everton who have the biggest shareholder loan deals may be a bit gutted with the outcome especially as they backed City to take the PL to court 😂

    • @richardf766
      @richardf766 14 часов назад

      @@StonyK_ youll see

    • @StonyK_
      @StonyK_ 14 часов назад

      ​@@richardf766Does that mean you don't know either? I've since seen their argument is that because one bit is wrong (shareholder loans) then all rules are therefore null and void. Perhaps that's where they are going with it? Sound like the whole PL is in a mess with majority of clubs sticking within rules that potentially aren't enforceable with a few clubs ignoring them anyway. Luckily my football is non league where football and beer is allowed and there's none of this state owned sport fighting for the good of man 😂

  • @ridwanameen3778
    @ridwanameen3778 День назад +9

    City are victorious

    • @slashthe2nd
      @slashthe2nd День назад +3

      Pfft wont be saying that in a few months

  • @Scott-hu3np
    @Scott-hu3np День назад +2

    Can we just get back to the football please?

  • @hussein9921
    @hussein9921 День назад

    The actual outcome is for sure a net positive for the premier league and not Man City. The APT system stays the same with changes in the speed at which an APT decision is made (the court ruled the process took too long) and that clubs will have some access to the databank that the premier league uses to judge if the deals are of fair market value. Also shareholder loans are now accounted for in PSR decisions.

  • @steinarseverson2765
    @steinarseverson2765 День назад +1

    So they are not saying that the apt rules are wrong, but that they should include loans? Fair enough. Not a massive win for City, though, is it? A loss for those with interest free loans, but it’s only fair in a way that that are included.

    • @ILoveManCity.
      @ILoveManCity. День назад +1

      I mean, it shows there's a vendetta against City from clubs that have hundreds of millions in loans between them and their owners, yet they have used this as deflection (blaming City) while its obvious City's owner don't want to use his club to make his bank account bigger like rivals club, in fact almost every revenue won at the pitch has been used to transform the City of Manchester plus thousands of jobs, but rivals hate that reality. Its also important to mention the League did nothing for decades while United, Liverpool and friends broke spending records after spending records and only cared about this when another club challenged them at the pitch.

    • @steinarseverson2765
      @steinarseverson2765 23 часа назад

      @@ILoveManCity. you know the difference between the city spending and United/lfc. Pretending oil state money and self generated money is the same isn’t gonna work. City now is generating money, but got there by state sponsorship.
      The APT on sponsorship and loans I agree. Either they both need to be at market value, or neither. With the principle of PSR and FFP, it should be both.
      These things were only set in place in later years because clubs only really started doing this with Blackburn in the 90’s, but limited. Then Chelsea started looking limitless, and obviously with Abu Dhabi and the Saudi, it got limitless.
      These actors shouldn’t be in the PL.
      I’m all for a separate super league with new clubs where the oil states can do their thing, and leave the national leagues and European competitions as they are. I’m happy the Qataris didn’t get in as well.
      What is the point with and English competition between Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia and Qatar?

  • @MorleyGames1
    @MorleyGames1 20 часов назад

    The balance is already distorted

  • @englishcple
    @englishcple 16 часов назад

    Im still waiting to find ot why Man utd got 40 million from the PL over covid, when all the other teams only got 1 million. There is something very dodgy going on there !!

  • @Wezwp
    @Wezwp 21 час назад

    They didnt have access to the bench mark figures ???

  • @JeremyBercow
    @JeremyBercow День назад +1

    City win fair and square I guess. We'll have to accept that teams will be fighting for the second spot for the next century

  • @Mohawkmike
    @Mohawkmike День назад

    For fair market value if you want a linked business sponsoring your club they should only be able to match a credible offer from another business. Sport first business second. Sport has rules for fair competition

  • @joshuankhunda387
    @joshuankhunda387 День назад

    Powerful people in this world always have the final say.

  • @will_hargreaves
    @will_hargreaves День назад

    Will be interesting to see if City now seeks damages from the Premier League for illegally blocking 2 sponsorship deals.

  • @shemliverpool8583
    @shemliverpool8583 День назад +5

    Corruption

  • @DivXDemonRik
    @DivXDemonRik День назад +1

    Premier league are coping hard. City won, get over it and move on.
    Who is paying the lawyers bill? The Premier league are being made to pay both sides cost because the Premier league lost. 😢

  • @stevejerwood5395
    @stevejerwood5395 День назад +10

    money TALKS and man city walks

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 День назад +12

    If City get away with this 115 charges, then I hope most Premier League clubs are talking to eachother behind the scenes about boycotting Premier League with City & decide to make a breakaway league that's fair and plays with the rules. That would hurt City the most without anyone in the league with them.

    • @Blue-ow3ns
      @Blue-ow3ns День назад +7

      😂😂 yeah you hope

    • @mancityaddis
      @mancityaddis День назад +3

      what stops city forming A league with other clubs?

    • @timpatton580
      @timpatton580 День назад +4

      ​@@mancityaddisand who do you think would join a league with cheats that don't even have a relevant fan base.....

    • @lfcspectre4335
      @lfcspectre4335 День назад +2

      @@mancityaddis Good then bye bye not of us want cheats anyway. You would do everyone a favour for once.

    • @Scrubber89
      @Scrubber89 День назад +8

      Congrats, you made the most immature and dumb comment in the comments section. Well done 🎉

  • @trevfisher
    @trevfisher День назад

    The release of the whole document has rendered your disingenuous framing of this for what it is.

  • @emmanuelohiri6374
    @emmanuelohiri6374 День назад +3

    How are those little points? Confused people

  • @kristerfagerviksundgot5002
    @kristerfagerviksundgot5002 День назад +1

    ..PL is not interresting anymore

  • @geoham_0
    @geoham_0 День назад +3

    bs

  • @Jpedro13-w4c
    @Jpedro13-w4c День назад +2

    Heard enough send off Declan Rice

  • @nemtizz
    @nemtizz День назад

    The competitive balance of the Premier League is already extorted. These rules merely exist to keep the 'big 6' at the top.

  • @terencegilfillian6420
    @terencegilfillian6420 День назад +1

    😊😊😊at the end both won? You mean they both got paid up for the time wasted😮

  • @DiazAnanda
    @DiazAnanda День назад

    How can you measure "fair market value"?

  • @QwertyQwerty-bd3tm
    @QwertyQwerty-bd3tm 18 часов назад

    Just make a big fine to man city which might affect man city future But, it’s against football spirit and players to cut points of man city. The players earned the points fairly in the field.

  • @dosoflynn848
    @dosoflynn848 21 час назад

    Huge win for City, Premier League doing their best to save face

  • @TheMercWithMouth
    @TheMercWithMouth День назад +1

    City fans happy they can keep buying trophies.

  • @KINGKING10109
    @KINGKING10109 День назад

    Accountants & Lawyers control everything

  • @robertcarneyarclocksmiths
    @robertcarneyarclocksmiths 21 час назад

    CHAMPION day for CITY and other clubs looking to get better. the red cartel cannot keep ups these days ,it is beautiful to see

  • @peternufc1981
    @peternufc1981 День назад

    So it stopped us spending but left others to continue to spend. Fking shocking to be fair . We are stagnant while others can spend SHOCKING Come on Newcastle name some big sponsors. 🙏🏻

    • @PredHunter83
      @PredHunter83 День назад

      I’ve been saying it for months
      THE RED CARTEL 🇺🇸 WHICH NOT ONLY CONSIST OF THOSE THREE PIRATES 🏴‍☠️, also TOTTENHAM 🇺🇸 CRYTAL PALACE 🇺🇸, EVERTON 🇺🇸, FULLHAM 🇺🇸, IPSWICH 🇺🇸,
      THE PREMIER LEAGUE IS CORRUPTED FILLED WITH THESE YANKEE SCUM

  • @charlesapana9935
    @charlesapana9935 День назад +1

    City prevail at the end anyway

  • @TeamCGS2005
    @TeamCGS2005 День назад +3

    Because this video is bias by just covering the Premier League's statement, here is Man City's statement:
    ""Man City:
    Following today's publication of the Rule X Arbitral Tribunal Award, Manchester City Football Club thanks the distinguished members of the Arbitral Tribunal for their work and considerations and welcomes their findings:
    The club has succeeded with its claim: the Associated Party Transaction (APT) rules have been found to be unlawful and the Premier League's decisions on two specific MCFC sponsorship transactions have been set aside
    The tribunal found that both the original APT rules and the current, (amended) APT Rules violate UK competition law and violate the requirements of procedural fairness.
    The Premier League was found to have abused its dominant position.
    The tribunal has determined both that the rules are structurally unfair and that the Premier League was specifically unfair in how it applied those rules to the club in practice.
    The rules were found to be discriminatory in how they operate, because they deliberately excluded shareholder loans.
    As well as these general findings on legality, the tribunal has set aside specific decisions of the Premier League to restate the fair market value of two transactions entered into by the club.
    The tribunal held that the Premier League had reached the decisions in a procedurally unfair manner.
    The tribunal also ruled that there was an unreasonable delay in the Premier League's fair market value assessment of two of the club's sponsorship transactions, and so the Premier League breached its own rules."

  • @StonyK_
    @StonyK_ 19 часов назад

    Do t understand how city think they won? It feels like a bad loss for them? Took PL to court to allow companies to self fund themselves beyond market value. Instead the courts said the PL are rught about that but they also need to include shareholder loans, which will reault in tighter restrictions? Which bit did city win other than getting the loans bit added (which surely is bad news for them as they cant even get around the rules with loans as several other clubs have)?

  • @Izzy066
    @Izzy066 День назад +15

    U just know this case is corrupt

    • @spark556
      @spark556 День назад +6

      Proof? 🤓

    • @9751_
      @9751_ День назад +7

      That's your mentality. It must be unfair if it doesn't go your way

    • @Izzy066
      @Izzy066 День назад +1

      @@9751_ bro u even know it’s corrupt don’t try hide it

    • @TheFormerkgbchief
      @TheFormerkgbchief День назад

      U just know u didn’t get an A Levels

    • @Izzy066
      @Izzy066 День назад

      @@TheFormerkgbchief dead joke fix ur English

  • @theorangutan1914
    @theorangutan1914 18 часов назад

    This means very little, it’s a tiny stipulation. Loans are a speck of the funds that Manchester City have been able to illegally manufacture.

  • @mohammadrasoulfard-habibi3066
    @mohammadrasoulfard-habibi3066 День назад +1

    It was always going to be embarrassing 😂

  • @kkiat424
    @kkiat424 День назад

    Y can't team owner use his own money for his own football club?? That's juz ridiculous

  • @Labgorilla
    @Labgorilla 19 часов назад

    Why did I watch this? It’s not the 115

  • @mrfro35
    @mrfro35 День назад

    Good to see most people in the comments aren’t listening to this P.R. drivel

  • @craigneo
    @craigneo День назад +3

    City the best.

  • @kontomylitis
    @kontomylitis 17 часов назад

    The PL lost. Don't spin this

  • @victorguido2447
    @victorguido2447 День назад +1

    WATCH THE END OF ALL OF THESE SAGA MC WILL COME ON TOP OF EVERYTHING F-THE PREMIER LEAGUE ONLY WORKS ON SMALL TEAMS

  • @stevenmacdonald9619
    @stevenmacdonald9619 День назад

    Premier League throwing bullshit word salad to dull the sting

  • @terencegilfillian6420
    @terencegilfillian6420 День назад +1

    Absolute bollox jargon confusing everyone we dont understand doodoo talk😮

  • @SuperCityMCFC
    @SuperCityMCFC День назад

    Some great spin from Red Sports 😂

  • @walkonandneverwalkalone
    @walkonandneverwalkalone 12 часов назад

    That’s it, I’VE SEEN ENOUGH OF THIS!!!!! DEDUCT 10 POINTS FROM EVERTON!!!!

  • @terencegilfillian6420
    @terencegilfillian6420 День назад +1

    😊they found a loop hole so it never stated you can work with your own investment group. So others will do the same going forward its imbarrising for the epl because it's clear who owns the league dictates. Once again this case was about who got the best socititors.😊 we live in a world controlled by private organisations who pay top wages to get out of moments like this. The EPL's will turn like italian league citys another Juventus 😢😢

  • @kpkp99912
    @kpkp99912 День назад

    PL loses the lawsuit
    Everton gets 15 points deduction😅

  • @alangaming2003
    @alangaming2003 День назад

    No wonder city are found not guilty with their charges no wonder Man City has 0 charges

  • @Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights
    @Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights День назад

    Enough of the this foolishness. 10 point deduction for Everton.

  • @winbig1
    @winbig1 День назад

    Just let them do whatever they want. If they win the premier league fair enough

  • @akankundagarasiano8072
    @akankundagarasiano8072 День назад +4

    Manchester city keep winning let's go city

  • @terencegilfillian6420
    @terencegilfillian6420 День назад +1

    Bs solicitors Cochran

  • @peterarmstrong3298
    @peterarmstrong3298 День назад

    Corrupt Premier league as we have known all along. Masters needs to resign.