페이유포켓 리뷰 영상중에 이걸 제일 참고를 했는데 아마 구입 하신분들 중에 영상이 흔들리는 분이 계시리라 봅니다. 저도 그렇구요. 몇번을 모드등을 계속 바꿔가면서 촬영을 해봤는데 일단은 전부 픽스 시켜놓고 찍는다는 가정하에 팬 팔로우 모드에 놓고 찍으면 흔들림이 일단은 없네요.흔들림은 없는데 문제는 좌측으로 미세하게 움직입니다. 이거 페이유 짐벌 고질병 같은데 빔블2도 이랬거든요. 틸트 팔로우로 놓았을때는 그나마 제일 낫습니다. 지금 다른 회사들은 차기작들 나오는거 보면 페이유도 이 제품은 접고 차기작 내놓던가 아니면 그냥 내비둘거 같습니다.
Another thing that cropped up for those in PAL countries, Like many I updated the firmware before using it. Now I find this has made the 50fps/25/fps footage very choppy. Also a pink tint on grey areas regardless of where White Balance is set, but only in Manual mode. The need for reusable ND filters is absolute with the lack of shutter speeds, but you'll need to compromise and find your own ways of fixing them in place.
1.8.4 is out for the Feiyu Pocket. Any idea what's new? Release notes still reference 1.8.3. BTW, the option to select the 'quality' stabilization option was removed in 1.7.8. It was there in 1.7.3.
So far, found not much difference in 1.8.4 Hope they update release note soon. 😑 So they REMOVED quality priority feature some point in the past. I wonder why. 🤔
@@Tide11 My completely uninformed guess is that they are having problems getting the gimbal optimized. Apparently it was pretty jumpy with the 'quality' option (120 deg FOV), and I assume that was without EIS. At the same time, their competitors seem to be doing fine with mechanical stabilization alone. BTW, you can still download other versions of the firmware by just changing the '184' directory in the download URL to 183, 178 or 173. I don't know if you can flash older firmware, but you can still get to the files apparently. I can't try it because I returned my Pocket when I figured out it really wasn't 4K anymore for video. The crop brings it to approx. 2.7K. I do like it though and will likely buy it again if they get it all sorted.
Yes my guess was the same. Gimbal is unstable enough with EIS on and easy to guess what it would like without EIS. Making Gimbal is their game and hope they nail it soon enough. I might try old firmware later on to just see how is the 4K image quality. 🤔
@@Tide11 Seems like all these cameras has some problems :( btw, what you think about the microphone in Feiyu Pocket? Anyway, now there seems to be "firmware_update_explanation" on feiyu website. V1.8.4 Update Notification: 【Camera】 1. Optimize the shooting effect in dark. 2. Optimize the real-time preview of slow motion. 3. Optimize the stability of playback on App. 4. Optimize the stability of wifi connection and the display of wifi status. 5. Fix the bug that frame rate is displayed wrongly on App. 【Gimbal】 1. Optimize tilting effect.
Thanks Haamu, I also saw the updated release note. Since it mentioned improved low light quality, I re-shoot all of the low light performance sample for the next video. 😅 For the mic, it is not so good at reducing wind noise. Worst in the three at the moment. It capture voice itself OK. 🤔
Looks like another "Not ready for Prime time" product. I got the Vmate which is finally usable after all the updates. That will hold me over till DJI release the OP2 (which I would expect late this year or early next). Thanks for the review.
Great to hear that Vmate is finally usable. 😀 I guess they really fixed that auto focus and white balance problem. My speculation is DJI might use that 1/2" 12/48MP censor of Mavic Air 2 in Osmo Pocket 2. HDR video shooting, 120Mbps. 😉
Excellent detailed review. One of the best in RUclips. I really want to like the Feiyu Pocket. Hopefully they can fix things via firmware updates. I’m not rushing to buy soon anyway. Looking forward to more reviews from you, especially after firmware updates.
Thanks Philip, I am also looking forward to the Feiyu Pocket getting better. Feiyu did made an interesting choice on their censor aspect ratio and current firmware didn’t justify its potential. 🤔 Hopefully they bring up the firmware update soon enough. 😀
Excellent objective review. I think I have enough such cameras already, but perhaps this one will be worth reconsidering in about one year when the problems have had a chance to be fixed. Or not...
In fact, Feiyu Pocket has an intersting censor, 16:9 aspect ratio 1/2.5" 8.51 Megapixel Sony censor. It has bigger 1.62μm pixel pitch. So has a potential to be better low light performance. In comparison, Osmo Pocket has 4:3 aspect ratio 12 Megapixel censor with 1.55μm pixel pitch. I thought it would have a potential but... may be a year later when update is finished... 😑
프리즘 라이브를 PC에 설치하고 테스트해보니 페이유포켓을 카메라로 잘 인식하네요. PC에 USB로 연결하기 전에 FY-Log로 설정하면 프리즘에서도 로그 컬러로 나옵니다. 1080P까지는 잘 나오는데 4K는 슬로우 모션처럼 나오네요. 이건 카메라 문제는 아니고 프리즘 라이브 자체의 문제인 것 같기도 하고요. 🤔
Great review. I had the feiyu tech g6 max gimbal and the g6 max plus. They have good build quality but the gimbal stabilization was never as good as zhiyun. I am very cautious of Feiyutech produts.
피미팜을 주문하고 배송 오는 중에 페이유 포켓 광고 보고 피미팜 주문한게 망했다고 생각했는데, 그나마 피미팜을 산건 선방했네요 (가성비에서...). 화질이 전체적으로 어두운 느낌인건 날씨가 흐려서인가요? 원래 카메라가 어두운 건지요? 그래도 문제가 많은 피미팜은 햇빛 쨍할 때는 이정도 어두움은 아닌 것 같은데요... 이번에도 영상 잘 봤습니다. 수고하셨습니다.
The basic of a gimbal camera: stablization and video quality, I think the feiyu pocket sucks. The video quality can be improved by software update, but the stablization related to hardware and structure, not so easy to fix through firmware update.
Yeah if it’s a hardware design issue I agree. However Feiyu is been in the gimbal making long enough to make a design mistake now. And they had a full year to look into Osmo Pocket. 😉 They even claim ±0.005° gimbal precision which is better than ±0.02° of Osmo Pocket and Fimi Palm does. I only hope they meet their claim with firmware update. Unless, I have an unusable camera. 😰
@@Tide11 For now, I can only find the fimi palm works OK except osmo pocket(although still some bugs need to be fixed), other pocket style cameras are totally a mistake to lauch.
![Feiyu Pocket Review Part 2 [Footage comparison]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yi_XYQeb5V4/mqdefault.jpg)
![Feiyu Pocket Review Part 2 [Footage comparison]](/img/tr.png)
![Feiyu Pocket Review Part 3 [v2.0.0 Firmware update]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9nCOot7oRvA/mqdefault.jpg)
페이유포켓 리뷰 영상중에 이걸 제일 참고를 했는데 아마 구입 하신분들 중에 영상이 흔들리는 분이 계시리라 봅니다. 저도 그렇구요. 몇번을 모드등을 계속 바꿔가면서 촬영을 해봤는데 일단은 전부 픽스 시켜놓고 찍는다는 가정하에 팬 팔로우 모드에 놓고 찍으면 흔들림이 일단은 없네요.흔들림은 없는데 문제는 좌측으로 미세하게 움직입니다. 이거 페이유 짐벌 고질병 같은데 빔블2도 이랬거든요. 틸트 팔로우로 놓았을때는 그나마 제일 낫습니다. 지금 다른 회사들은 차기작들 나오는거 보면 페이유도 이 제품은 접고 차기작 내놓던가 아니면 그냥 내비둘거 같습니다.
네 영상 비트레이트를 포함해서 부족한 부분들이 많은데 페이유에는 더 이상 펌웨어로 개선할 의지는 아쉽게도 없는 것 같습니다. 😥
@@Tide11 이 댓글 날고 나서 고객센터에 이러한 현상이 있는데 펌웨어 업데이트 수정 계획이 없냐고 메일을 보냈더니 해당 영상을 보내달라고 하더라구요. 보내주긴 했는데 이게 수정이 될지도 모르겠고.... 해당 현상이 한번도 클레임이 안들어갔을리도 없고...
저도 출시직후 문제점들의 리스트를 정리해 문의했는데 고객센터 레벨에서는 개발팀이 어떤 개발계획도 확답하지 않았기 때문에 문제들이 개선될것이라고 또는 개선될 예정이라고 개런티할 수 없다고 답변을 받았었습니다. 🙃
@@Tide11 이래서야 차기작 만들어도 불안한데.....
Excellent review and to the point. Thanks!!!
간만에 왔네요.^^;..제품을 파악하는데 도움이 되겠네요..영상 잘 보았습니다.^^..수고하세요.
어서오세요 오랜만입니다. 😁
Another thing that cropped up for those in PAL countries, Like many I updated the firmware before using it. Now I find this has made the 50fps/25/fps footage very choppy. Also a pink tint on grey areas regardless of where White Balance is set, but only in Manual mode. The need for reusable ND filters is absolute with the lack of shutter speeds, but you'll need to compromise and find your own ways of fixing them in place.
1.8.4 is out for the Feiyu Pocket. Any idea what's new? Release notes still reference 1.8.3. BTW, the option to select the 'quality' stabilization option was removed in 1.7.8. It was there in 1.7.3.
So far, found not much difference in 1.8.4
Hope they update release note soon. 😑
So they REMOVED quality priority feature some point in the past. I wonder why. 🤔
@@Tide11 My completely uninformed guess is that they are having problems getting the gimbal optimized. Apparently it was pretty jumpy with the 'quality' option (120 deg FOV), and I assume that was without EIS. At the same time, their competitors seem to be doing fine with mechanical stabilization alone. BTW, you can still download other versions of the firmware by just changing the '184' directory in the download URL to 183, 178 or 173. I don't know if you can flash older firmware, but you can still get to the files apparently. I can't try it because I returned my Pocket when I figured out it really wasn't 4K anymore for video. The crop brings it to approx. 2.7K. I do like it though and will likely buy it again if they get it all sorted.
Yes my guess was the same. Gimbal is unstable enough with EIS on and easy to guess what it would like without EIS.
Making Gimbal is their game and hope they nail it soon enough. I might try old firmware later on to just see how is the 4K image quality. 🤔
@@Tide11 Seems like all these cameras has some problems :( btw, what you think about the microphone in Feiyu Pocket?
Anyway, now there seems to be "firmware_update_explanation" on feiyu website.
V1.8.4 Update Notification:
【Camera】
1. Optimize the shooting effect in dark.
2. Optimize the real-time preview of slow motion.
3. Optimize the stability of playback on App.
4. Optimize the stability of wifi connection and the display of wifi status.
5. Fix the bug that frame rate is displayed wrongly on App.
【Gimbal】
1. Optimize tilting effect.
Thanks Haamu,
I also saw the updated release note. Since it mentioned improved low light quality, I re-shoot all of the low light performance sample for the next video. 😅
For the mic, it is not so good at reducing wind noise. Worst in the three at the moment. It capture voice itself OK. 🤔
Looks like another "Not ready for Prime time" product. I got the Vmate which is finally usable after all the updates. That will hold me over till DJI release the OP2 (which I would expect late this year or early next). Thanks for the review.
Great to hear that Vmate is finally usable. 😀
I guess they really fixed that auto focus and white balance problem.
My speculation is DJI might use that 1/2" 12/48MP censor of Mavic Air 2 in Osmo Pocket 2. HDR video shooting, 120Mbps. 😉
Tide yea that's what everyone if hoping to see in the OP2 along with built in WiFi
Thank you for this very informative test.
Glad you fine it helpful.
다음 영상이 무척 기대됩니다.ㅎㅎ 수고하셨습니다.
카메라를 3개씩 동시에 촬영하려니 어렵기도하고 재미있기도 하네요. 😆
Excellent detailed review. One of the best in RUclips.
I really want to like the Feiyu Pocket. Hopefully they can fix things via firmware updates. I’m not rushing to buy soon anyway.
Looking forward to more reviews from you, especially after firmware updates.
Thanks Philip,
I am also looking forward to the Feiyu Pocket getting better.
Feiyu did made an interesting choice on their censor aspect ratio and current firmware didn’t justify its potential. 🤔
Hopefully they bring up the firmware update soon enough. 😀
Best review I've seen. I want to buy this instead of Osmo Pocket but so many issues.
Thanks 😃
Feiyu Pocket is not ready for anyone to be purchased. Has a lot of potential if Feiyu-tech updates everything they ptomised.
혹시 틸트 동작중에 튀는 현상 없으신가요? 제거는 종종 틸트가 튀어서 영상이 흔들리네요... Feiyu에서는 답변도 없고... 아직 좀 답답한 제품 같습니다.
많이 튀고 많이 흔들립니다.
지금은 짐벌로 촬영했는데 영상이 마치 핸드헬드 촬영을 한것처럼 보일 정도네요. 😣
페이유가 문제를 빨리 개선해야 할텐데 말이죠.
1,2,3
Which one is the 4. Pocket? 😜
Hi Udo,
It's GoPro 5 session mounted on the chest.
Handling 4 cameras were a bit of fun. 🤣
Tide yes, we will see! 😝
오 빠른리뷰1!!!
영상을다봤는데 취소하길잘했네요.. 화질 처참합니다.. 4k이가 무슨 고프로1080보다도 별로네요
페이유가 무슨이유에서 이렇게 서두를 필요가 있었는지 모르겠네요.
가장 늦게 나온만큼 준비를 잘했어야 했을텐데 말이죠. 🤔
@@Tide11 그러게요 디자인만잘뺏지 나머진 처참..
얼마나 업데이트를 잘할지 두고봐야 겠네요. 😥
@@Tide11 업데이트해도 화질은 개선되기힘들지않을까요
Excellent objective review. I think I have enough such cameras already, but perhaps this one will be worth reconsidering in about one year when the problems have had a chance to be fixed. Or not...
In fact, Feiyu Pocket has an intersting censor, 16:9 aspect ratio 1/2.5" 8.51 Megapixel Sony censor.
It has bigger 1.62μm pixel pitch. So has a potential to be better low light performance. In comparison, Osmo Pocket has 4:3 aspect ratio 12 Megapixel censor with 1.55μm pixel pitch.
I thought it would have a potential but... may be a year later when update is finished... 😑
웹캠 기능이 있다면 혹시 프리즘 라이브로 연결해서 유튜브 생방송 가능 한가요? 가능 하다면 대박 사건 입니다
프리즘 라이브를 PC에 설치하고 테스트해보니 페이유포켓을 카메라로 잘 인식하네요.
PC에 USB로 연결하기 전에 FY-Log로 설정하면 프리즘에서도 로그 컬러로 나옵니다.
1080P까지는 잘 나오는데 4K는 슬로우 모션처럼 나오네요. 이건 카메라 문제는 아니고 프리즘 라이브 자체의 문제인 것 같기도 하고요. 🤔
Tide pc 말고 스마트폰으로도 프리즘 라이브 웹캠기능으로 유튜브 생방송 가능 한지요? 가능 하면 울트라 대박 사건
안되네요. 🤔
안드로이드에서는 카메라가 USB모드로 들어가지만 앱에서 인식을 하지 않고,
iOS에서는 USB모드가 켜지지도 않네요.
Thanks for the tip! (as stated in the DJI forum)
Welcome. 😎
Forum follow.
@@Tide11 Let me know if it gets better with a new fw update :)
역시나 좋은 리뷰!
말씀하신 문제점들 중에서 펌웨어업데이트로도 보완이 불가능한 것들이 있을까요? 사실 페이유텍이 김벌로 유명한 회사다 보니 이걸 구매하려 하는데 현재 상태로는 영 별로네요 ㅎ
자석식 ND필터를 사용할 수 없다는 점을 빼면 페이유텍이 의지만 있다면 다 펌웨어로 개선할 수 있는 것들로 보입니다만...
첫인상이 충격적이라 좀 걱정하면서 기다리고 있습니다. 😨😱
친절합니다.
역시 Tide님.. 2-3주전부터 국내영상 기다리고 있었습니다. 오즈모포켓 처분하고 이놈 대기중입니다.
펌웨어가 어디까지 올라오느냐에 따라서 쓸만한 카메라가 될수도 있을 것 같습니다. 🤔
Great review. I had the feiyu tech g6 max gimbal and the g6 max plus. They have good build quality but the gimbal stabilization was never as good as zhiyun. I am very cautious of Feiyutech produts.
Now I also have an opinion for FeiyuTech product too. 😥
They should update hard to make up for their brand.
sns에서 광고보고 곧 타이더님이 리뷰하시겠구나 싶었는데 역시!
역시 아직 오즈모포켓을 뛰어넘을 제품은 없는건가요 ㅠㅠ
DJI 스스로가 오즈모 포켓 2로 뛰어넘는 수밖에 없을 것 같네요. 😁
피미팜을 주문하고 배송 오는 중에 페이유 포켓 광고 보고 피미팜 주문한게 망했다고 생각했는데, 그나마 피미팜을 산건 선방했네요 (가성비에서...). 화질이 전체적으로 어두운 느낌인건 날씨가 흐려서인가요? 원래 카메라가 어두운 건지요? 그래도 문제가 많은 피미팜은 햇빛 쨍할 때는 이정도 어두움은 아닌 것 같은데요... 이번에도 영상 잘 봤습니다. 수고하셨습니다.
날씨는 매우 화창했습니다.
뭔가 화질이 쨍해보이지 않는건 FY-Log 프로파일 컬러가 다루는데 좀 숙달이 필요하다는 점과,
카메라의 역광에서의 다이나믹 레인지가 좀 어둡게 나온다는 느낌이 있어서 일것 같습니다.🤔
不明白为什么FEIYU在现在发布这款的意义，因为前面已经有先例可以对比。结果出了一款画质如此稀烂的产品.......如果不是价格压的很低的话，我觉得很难卖。
我完全同意你的观点。
I completely agree with you. (Google translate)
The basic of a gimbal camera: stablization and video quality, I think the feiyu pocket sucks. The video quality can be improved by software update, but the stablization related to hardware and structure, not so easy to fix through firmware update.
Yeah if it’s a hardware design issue I agree. However Feiyu is been in the gimbal making long enough to make a design mistake now. And they had a full year to look into Osmo Pocket. 😉
They even claim ±0.005° gimbal precision which is better than ±0.02° of Osmo Pocket and Fimi Palm does.
I only hope they meet their claim with firmware update. Unless, I have an unusable camera. 😰
@@Tide11 For now, I can only find the fimi palm works OK except osmo pocket(although still some bugs need to be fixed), other pocket style cameras are totally a mistake to lauch.
Agree. They should be better prepared to launch.
By the way, Fimi just updated manual shutter speed control. I am gonna run some lowlight test. 😉
Feiyu Pocket quality is not good .. i saw a lot of review, balance , stabilization is not good
I hope they do more update soon. 😓
이것도 사셨네요 ㅋㅋ
네 😂
혹시나 잘나오지 않았을까 기대를 걸아봤습니다. 🙃
오 페이유에서도 나왔네요
기대했는데 말이죠. 🙃
아....주문해놓고 리뷰들 보니 짐벌 성능이 똥망이네요....왜 이리 덜컥대는지 ...
아마 짐벌이 안정적이 되려면 펌웨어 업데이트로 짐벌 셋팅이 몇번 개선되야 할 것 같습니다. 🤔
아마도 페이유가 너무 서둘러서 펌웨어가 완성되기 전에 출시먼저 한것 같습니다.
저도 어제 받았는데 틸트 무빙이 튀거나 덜컥대네요.... 페이유가 짐벌로 큰 회사라 화질을 걱정했었는데 의외의 복병을 만난 기분입니다. 이거 당장 쓰지도 못하고 계륵같습니다.
뭐하나 좋은게 없어보이네요...