Japan’s Honda, Nissan aim to merge
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Japanese carmakers Honda and Nissan plan to join forces in a merger that would create the world’s third-largest carmaker by sales. Honda’s chief executive Toshihiro Mibe said the merger would put the company in a better position to compete against Chinese carmakers like BYD, and rising US electric vehicle manufacturers like Tesla. Mitsubishi Motors, already a partner of Nissan, also said it was considering joining the capital tie-up.
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This merger is far better compared to Nissan - Renault one. Renault really ruin Nissan
and nissan ruin mitsubishi 😅
@@nogosari3596 Seems like they are going to ruin Honda too then.
@@nogosari3596 mitsubishi cant get any worse
You guys are crazy to say Mitsubishi are in ruin. They have a long run on EV. Nissan just can't deal with the demands and competes with the rest.
Having all 3 together, Honda will top 1 and Mitsubishi might get a chance to shine even brighter with their already innovation.
So enough said, so just chill back and watch it will unfold. But I think 2026 is a bit late. They should move fast and make it happen in 2025, or Nissan and Mitsubishi will fall on their faces.
North America and Western Europe tariffed and blockaded China's uprise, afraid of competition
Japan's automakers faced them like a real man or collaborated with them
That's the difference
Not really, I don't think this merger do anything to Japanese automobile industry, especially to Honda. Ghosn opinion to this matter is very interesting opinion
@@Just.m3752actually it does
It will allow Japan to create and remove all the old cars and replace the old one with new modern ones
@@Just.m3752and people will buy it because you know Japanese cares are very well known in Asia
Idk about America but my dad use to buy one
Japanese used to be at the top but over the years idk what happened to them but my dad really liked the car and me especially
@@LollipopLop I'm from Asia and Japanese brand doing just fine, even better that any other brand
That's happened when you sleep on your success for over decades. Refusing to adapt means going out of business. Everything change so fast these past few years.
Poor China has been sleeping for the last hundred years on no success.
@@Bubba-z4sChinese haters
@@Bubba-z4sha??? What you talking, u mean Japan bro?
@@ericlie145 Lol, are you for real? Japan is one of the most advanced countries.
@@Bubba-z4syes.. of course japan is one of the most advanced countries no one doubts that, but look now, they are starting to stagnate, so for the example, they have to merge with other automobile companies to fight the economic giant, CHINA and also Space technology, and also what Japan does compared to China who has been catching up for 25 years, now has its own space station in outer space.
I think you need to wake up from your sweet dream because the real threat, China has started to become a Technology Giant in the near future
The Brazilian government just shut down the BYD factory in Bahiá because of slavery like conditions. The Brazilian government rescued 160 Chinese workers from the site.
Horrible.
But there are a billion of Chinese people.
Just a joke as I am Asian myself with heritage in China. Lol.
@ yes I suppose the CCP holds Chinese lives cheaply.
Well, much better than certain losers who would impose tariffs instead of competition. Pure competition should be respected.
they are maybe able to slow down Huawei for the first time. when its comeback they won't require other country resource. apple is doomed to fail without newer innovation and how costly they are.
@MGZetta Well said
@@jackdarrow3011 they won't win against Huawei. Not enough human resources not enough capital, not enough market base.
There will be a lot of Nokia/Kodak/Blackberry/Hitachi/Sanyo moments in western world and their allies, due to Chinese competition. 😏
China stole teslas technology and then kicked them out of china !!!
In my country, the japanese vehicles are almost 2 times the price of BYD and offers less features
But will last longer. Or else Japanese cars douuln't be popular at all in Middle East or Africa where they are driven on dirt roads and with lil to no maintenance
@CrimsonAlchemist this is up for debate now cause some Wuling cars in my country is lasting a decade or more with minimum maintenance 🥲 EVs in my country goes for 60-75k USD while BYD is around 40-50k for the top variants
But for now,
EV < ICE
Anytime of the day
@@CrimsonAlchemist Take-away:
German car: luxurious, high performance but very expensive.
Japanese car: durable, energy efficient.
South Korean car: many options.
Chinese cars: high-tech, full features, but very affordable.
If you're terrorist, you buy Japanese cars; if you're middle income person, you buy Chinese car; if you're extremely rich, you buy German car.
Japanese cars are made better. The materials are better. The metal quality is better.
This leaves japan now with just 2 automakers, the other one being toyota which controls every smaller automaker in japan.
Honda is an overpriced brand in Indonesia, they cut off many features compared to other countries released. Nowadays, it's better to buy Chinese brand because they offer more value with affordable pricing.
Honda quality is top notch. Chinese brands are at the bottom.
@@Bubba-z4sOutdated
@dreameisters
Memilih mobil China yang murah dapat menghemat biaya awal, tetapi Anda harus mengorbankan keselamatan dan keandalan jangka panjang, sementara memilih mobil Jepang yang lebih mahal memastikan keselamatan yang lebih baik, daya tahan, dan nilai jangka panjang.
@@aiue-g9f Mau pilih tipe mobil china yang premium dan built quality bagus juga sudah mulai tersedia di Indonesia bro. Kecuali yang fans buta T dan H ya emang susah dibilangin.
Gw pake chery puas top markotop. Built quality jauh menang lawan mopang harga sama. Ini sudah bukan 1990-2010, mocin sudah unggul dr safety, feature dan comfort.
Hope japanese car makers get better designers. Their cars look like they were designed for old people. Chinese cars design these days blows every car maker out of the water. But im still not considering buying chinese brands due to questions in reliability, parts availability, and resale value. Though chinese evs are very tempting. BYD sealion cost only as much as a nissan subcompact car and byd includes all options
The sporty design of the previous gen Civic was perfect for young people. The new model just looks like a smaller boring Accord, which doesn’t really attract anyone. Younger people want a smaller sporty looking model as their first car, while older people want a bigger car that’s not too flashy.
The Xiaomi SU7 is literally a Porsche Taycan and McLaren 720s copycat.
@albertteng1191
While it's true that Chinese car designs have evolved recently, Japanese automakers have also made significant strides in design. For example, models like the Toyota Crown, Nissan Ariya, and Honda e showcase innovative designs that appeal to a broader audience. In terms of reliability, Japanese cars have a long-standing reputation for durability and stability, with strong resale value and readily available parts. On the other hand, Chinese EVs like the BYD Sealion are attractive due to their price and feature-rich options, but concerns about long-term reliability, parts availability, and resale value still persist. Ultimately, both markets offer advantages, but the value and trust associated with Japanese cars remain important factors for many consumers, still holding strong appeal.
Chinese manufacturers make competition in automotive industry seem more interesting. I hope the customers get benefit from this new paradigm, and better product from japan and europe
If Honda and Nissan merge the name should ne Honni
ニンダ
Nisonda
Acura Skyline
I think they will keep both name like (underscored because yt will sometimes delete or hide brand names): square_enix, koei_tecmo, namco_bandai, kadokawa_dango, daichii_sankyo and etc
Why not NISSDA
About time, Renault was the worst thing that happened to Nissan, and their CVT's
Honda and Nissan gonna make Type R GT-R 😅
Vtec engine in Fairlady!
It's going to be GT-R Type R with Evo trim 😅
It would still be 100% better than anything coming out of China.
GType-R
Toyota's too busy counting money to even notice
Nissan is in trouble again and Honda is stagnant. They have stopped in time and lost ground. The much-loved capitalism does not forgive. The world's consumers are grateful for free competition!
@alemelo3070
While Nissan and Honda may be facing tough times, they are not stagnating. In fact, both companies are actively pushing forward with new technologies and models, with Honda focusing on the EV market and autonomous driving development. Nissan is also introducing exciting vehicles like the new "Ariya" and "Fairlady Z," showing clear progress. Moreover, Japanese cars continue to provide high quality and reliability, maintaining strong consumer support. While it's true that capitalism drives competition and innovation, Japanese automakers remain firmly positioned to lead and continue evolving in this competitive landscape.
@@aiue-g9fThe qualities of Japanese cars are unquestionable. However, the difficulty and delay in making decisions are causing Japan to lose market share. Korea and especially China today are doing the same thing that Japan did 50 years ago. And a big mistake was to transfer 100% of their automotive technology abroad over the decades.
It happened with electronics and now with the automotive sector. Japanese politicians need to be more agile in their policies. And Japanese companies need to be the same or they will disappear in the international market.
I particularly love the Skyline, Silvia, Accord or even the Cube. But the market doesn't live on memories.
I think this is for SURVIVAL
The problem is Japanese companies are too stuck in their ways. Honda is really the only one in that group that has a chance to help them succeed and they need to figure it out fast or this merger is just going to drag them down.
Toyota is still killing it though - right?
I've always been team Honda and a huge fan of them but lately their vehicles are much too overpriced and underwhelming to say the least. It makes me sad because I personally see less Hondas on the road than before and where I live Mazdas are flourishing, I'm seeing more and more of them. I don't see Honda going out of business (ever) but they are stagnating and need to up their game if they want to remain competitive.
Because they value their vehicle like it is top notch. Mazda has been undercutting their price for years and it works.
We wanted the Honda CRV, but to get anything that Mazda offers, expect $5k+ more.
Reason smart people went with the Mazda.
Elon Musk once said top 10 car brand will be Tesla, and nine are Chinese brands, just like top 10 phone brand now, it's Samsung and Apple, and remaining eight brands are Chinese brands, what really stops Xiaomi Oppo Vivo to defeat Samsung and Apple is the chip and Google system embargo.
Then how can German and Japanese cars catch up with Chinese car company? It is difficult to control the cost like Chinese brand, The only way is to introduce Chinese technology, Just like China introduced Tesla to build a factory in Shanghai and stimulate catfish effect, and then make Luxury EV.
Stopped reading at "Elon Musk..."
Why are you quoting a con man?
@@Kiyoone con man? nope, he is only smart man that Chinese respects
@@lvjinbin28only chinese respect.. i waste my time reading this.
They can't compete with Toyota
Toyota is 🗿
“The Japanese firms were struggling to compete with growing Chinese EV companies” is straight cap😂
Hosan or Nisda?
The one thing that Japanese brands have over Chinese brands for now is that they are recognisable. If the Chinese companies want to be more successful, they need to be well known.
due to political reason, they are not for sale at where you live but well known among BRICS. Are you aware someone is stopping you from getting to know chinese cars?
@@linphilip6389 they don't have a century of pedigree, and their names are just dogshit.
@musicbyimpulse
Japanese cars are not only more recognizable but also superior in performance compared to Chinese cars. Japanese vehicles offer high reliability, durability, and excellent driving performance, earning long-term global support. On the other hand, Chinese cars still fall short in terms of technology and quality, particularly in long-term performance and reliability, where they lack a proven track record.
Brazilian authorities have halted the construction of a factory for Chinese electric vehicle (EV) giant BYD, saying workers lived in conditions comparable to "slavery".
More than 160 workers have been rescued in Brazil's northeastern state of Bahia, according to a statement from the Public Labour Prosecutor's Office (MPT).
VW Mercedes and BMW merging when? 😂
None of those companies would want to merge with each other
VW is just German stellantis and Mercedes and BMW are competitors
Would be funny tho
@@mr_hobbit not about "want" its about "need" xDD
@@dxelson lol
Afrobeats is popular anywhere you turn, afrodancehall is the new popular genre everywhere you are turning
So?
The new Civic GTR looks promising
Yes, and brand reliability is something which the Chinese brands are not able to guarantee as of now, maybe never, Japanese 🇯🇵 brands like Honda and Nissan are known for making tough, reliable engines & hybrid power trains, which the Chinese 🇨🇳 can't do anytime. The Trump effect shall also make these Chinese companies weaker in the longer term.
Indian Tuk Tuk vehicles are also very performing. 😂😂😂
@user-gp9mk7wm1s hmmm tuk tuk boy. Didn't know poor chaps commented about cars 😁😁😁😁😁
No, my friend, when it comes to reliability, they're improving significantly. I've personally owned a BYD for two years now and haven't had a single issue. Did you know that many Chinese car manufacturers hire highly experienced engineers from Germany, Switzerland, and other countries with expertise in top automotive brands? Check out cars like Zeekr and Li Auto (Lixiang). While they might not dominate in the U.S., they're already outperforming the competition across Asia and even in some parts of North America
They’re not inexpensive because of poor quality-it’s because they receive significant support from the Chinese government.
why nissan is always marger wkwkwkwk
Cant wait for the GTRSX
EVs are worst for future
那么你会失去未来。电气化不仅仅是汽车业。固体电池，超高密度储能，电子碳基，可靠小型核能，核聚变，人工智能。这一些都是在可控外星移民的大航海的必有前提。内热燃机会像马车一样淘汰了🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
中国以有激光充电的飞行器。如果加大能量。那就是空天堡垒。😅😅
Honda just wants the GTR name because Honda's own NSX is dead.
Hold up, what about Daihatsu?
失敗者聯盟
now hopefully nissan returns to its roots and gives us back a real skyline gtr and s chassis, both in manual.
They really went and said "Gatai" like super sentai's Mech
This reminds me of the Titanic scene where the musicians went down together with the ship 🚢⚓😅
@HoldMyCowsberg
Discussions about the merger between Honda and Nissan could help transform the industry and strengthen its competitiveness.
@haru-l7e3c Merging is just borrowed time. The outcome is inevitable.
Japanese cars brands are unbeatable
Then why are they merging. U blind or what.
Seems quite the opposite. Two loser brands signing suicide pact!
used to be , not anymore
China is doing what japan did 50 years ago, elbowing out many inefficient car companies around the world
@@stickynorthVehicles sold in 2023: Honda - 4.2 million
Nissan - 3.4 million
BYD - 3 million
They’re already winning, and will be even better now. 🇯🇵
cmon now, they going to make wall street bankers rich.
Can't wait for the new Type R Evo GTR!
Mazda and Subaru should do the same but push the rotary market
Due to inflation and rising cost, people will always choose car brands with better features and value for money
The price man, the price
Japan, South Korea & China trade with own currency, no restriction market access & visa free travel. Under this presetting, many Chinese open battery factories in Japan etc, then Japanese car maker can source batteries at low cost.
Too little too late, I give them 5 years before bankruptcy.
Just because Tesla and Chinese EV companies are on the rise, you think some of the most reliable and high-quality vehicle manufacturers on the market will go bankrupt in five years? Who do you think you are, some kind of portfolio manager? EVs may be trendy right now, but they are far from being truly reliable cars. EV technology is just beginning to gain traction, but compared to the century-old tradition of manufacturing in the traditional auto industry, EVs are still lacking. Without government support, EVs wouldn’t be where they are today. Traditional automakers produce far superior products.
Take Honda, Nissan, and Mitsubishi, for example. Do you know who makes some of the best vehicles in the world aside from the Germans? The Japanese. Saying they’ll go bankrupt is absurd. Honda, Nissan, and Mitsubishi are leaders in the machinery industry. Tesla, on the other hand, is essentially a battery company, not a true vehicle manufacturer. Cars aren’t just about engines-they are complex machines. Auto companies invest hundreds of billions of dollars every year to develop every single component, even down to the tires. Tesla has around 20 years of experience, but that’s a fraction compared to these established brands.
As for Chinese EVs, they dominate the Chinese market but are far from being competitive in the American and European markets. Europeans won’t be driving Asian-made vehicles anytime soon-especially not Chinese ones-unless their own economies face major setbacks. Japanese brands, however, have consistently earned global respect.
The merger of Honda, Nissan, and Mitsubishi is not a sign of failure; it’s a strategic move to adapt to current trends. They’re merging their vehicle divisions to create a new automotive company, but their other industrial equipment divisions remain separate and highly successful. In fact, their products are some of the best on the market.
So why don’t you reconsider your argument before making such baseless claims?
@@Strollerist no brand named chinese ev exists
@@Strolleristthat's crazy analization right there
@@Strolleristbro snapped but I agree
We shall see how great the quality of Chinese cars are in 3 to 5 years time. Remember Japan are making cars that are reliable to last more than 5 to 10 years. They can also easily beat China, but they have much higher standards. I would rather pay more money for a Japanese car than a Chinese car right now. But if Chinese cars prove better in the long run, I will consider it also.
Regardless of the significant advantages in quality, technological innovation, and brand value that American, European and the Japanese have in any industry that competes with China, China is slowly but surely whittling away the advantages that the incumbent status quo have held for over a century
Had Japanese cars all my life until recently. We sold our Toyota Fortuner for a BYD Sealion due to the rising prices of gas in my country.
Hon-San daijoubu desuka?
cant wait for the introduction of Honsan NSX GTR.
Honda car quality deteriorate and wanna charge premium price. Ask whoever owns a Honda car. Rusted
It takes 3 to compete with BYD. Times are tough for these legacy dying ICE automakers.
Antitrust laws? Nope. Figure.
defeated by Tata?😂
@isleephungry
not defeated
HonNi or Dassan ?
Honda + Nissan = Hassan
Hassan GTR
That's my name!
Nisonda 👍
Ya habibi
Hosanna
Mazda is 100000x better then honda or Nissan
I'm in China and still not convinced by Chinese EVs quality and reliability. I'd wait till solid-state batteries are ready.
China makes the BEST batteries...everyone uses them..they don't catch fire like when punctured..you're waiting for the wrong thing
@@_MANASYt prove it ? India best achievements so far
India's Hunger index
2013: 63rd rank
2022: 107th rank
India's Happiness index.
2013: 111th rank
2022: 136th rank
India's press freedom rank
2013:79th
2022: 150the the fourth pillar of worlds largest
democracy is no more
India's unemployment rate
2013:4.9%
2023:7.5%
Unemployment rate never increase in growing
economy.. india is growing only on paper and by
loan
India's Debt
before 2014: ₹55 lakh crore
2023: ₹155 lakh crore
India's GDP from 2004 to 2014:
$709 billion to 2.04 trilion (almost triple)
India's GDP from 2014to 2024:
$2.04 trillion to 3.6 trilion (expected)...not even
double
Gtr spoon it's real 😂
Mitsubishi should join them
forget about it, Toyota is king
Toyota still at the top
Not for long though. They'll be dethroned by BYD within 2 years it seems.
@@A.T.148-Scot-HKHow? Toyota sold 11.2 million vehicles in 2023 while BYD only sold 3 million?
@@A.T.148-Scot-HK Nope, BYD will lose the USA with Trump
@@A.T.148-Scot-HK Nah, all EV companies in poor China are losing money. They won't last long.
@@Bubba-z4s Yes, the smaller ones will not survive, but the likes of BYD, Geely, LiAuto are already profitable. BYD is already the 3rd largest car maker in the world by market cap.
like GM cars
Flat auto and ram jeep not doing well, all about give the customer want...
合併してもTOYOTAには勝てない
Honda and Nissan didn’t actually do anything bad yet people here be acting hostile 🫤
Bad for whom, employees, investors and stakeholders? Oh you can be sure it’s very bad for all of them or they wouldn’t need to merge in the first place.
@ I’m not even talking about the employees, investors or stakeholders. I’m talking about the other commenters here.
Same as Nokia
@@forcexjr1566 What do you care about what internet randos think, on a YT comment section no less, that has nothing to do with the companies in question, whereas the people I mentioned are actually directly affected by this merger?
@@Daedy But if merging isn’t done, more people will be affected as the financial situations worsen. If you have some genius idea for them to avoid merging, you might as well engage the CEOs directly
Vtec GTR coming soon be ready guys 😂
R36 GTR ivtec Honda Civic GTR Nismo
They should register the new company as AYD if they want to make it clear.
HNM
BANZAİ
Land of the Setting Sun. The writing is on the wall, sarr.
Imagine a Honda GTR Nismo or Nissan Civic 😅😍🤟
They fear the Chinese EV companies. 😂😂😂 Well done China. Go go China !!!
Because the government is still subsidizing China's ev market. Wait til the government pull the plug and they start pushing the expenditures to consumers.
@@biggertree7063 The China government stopped subsidizing electric vehicles long ago, and the China government also subsidized Tesla.
@@biggertree7063 China also subsidizes Tesla.
@jinlee2617
While Chinese EV companies are rapidly growing, German and Japanese manufacturers continue to hold significant advantages in quality, technological innovation, and brand value, making it challenging to surpass them through competition alone.
My people are buying pagani for me, nissan is something for me, if, the nigerians refuse
Doomed to fail...just an opinion and if YT or SCMP delete then it is awfully bad
Lamborghini is like for the lagos woman, lamborghini is not lamborghana, though it really could
Nissan is pure crapola
how are Korean car makers doing?
Better than Japan at least. They didn't ignore EVs as much.
Korean legacy cars disappeared in the China market 5 years ago because of Chinese legacy cars, Japanese legacy cars are at least a little better than Korean legacy cars.
And Korean electric cars basically not competitive.
Installing speakers in their EVs to make fake engine noises.
@@CrzyD-cv8xzWhile Korean automakers have achieved certain successes in the EV market, Japanese automakers have also demonstrated strong performance in hybrid vehicle (HV) technology and have announced plans to increase their investments in electric vehicles (EVs).
For instance, Toyota has set a target to increase its global EV sales to 8 million units by 2030, with 2 million of those being battery electric vehicles (BEVs) and fuel cell electric vehicles (FCEVs).
Similarly, Honda aims to double its global hybrid car sales to 1.3 million units annually by 2030, positioning hybrids as a transitional technology until fully electric vehicles become more prevalent.
These initiatives highlight Japan's commitment to advancing both hybrid and electric vehicle technologies.
I’m rooting for this merger and their future projects ! #JDMFOREVER
財閥 time let's gooooo
Honda Chief Executive probably possesed by Trump spirit and Blame CHINA for their failure 😂
Honsan 😂
Hondasan? Nissonda?
Nope, try again
New name Honda-onatop-San? Or
NiHon? Or Neesan-on-Top-Honda-San?
i like Honi better
@ British English pronouncation slang better than Japanese.. hahaha.. but Nee-San on top Hon San … best explain them now
Type skyline evo
Honnisan
After the merger the new company should be called the “Titanic”.
NOOOOOOOOO
The lagos woman i should of married in my early 20s #nigerian though i got until my 40s now really and people do merge in the future if the timing is not at the moment correct #BeenListeningToAfrobeatsWhenILeftHighSchoolAt16
Hondasan has a certain ring to it.
Don't quit your day job
At least the 3 will produce better cars vs having Renault and Peugeot involved
New merge name - *Lossda*
Honda - the power of dream
BYD - build your dream
Still dream cannot don vs Make a dream come true
They fear Chinese evs 😅.
Few years ago, they were laughing at Chinese evs.😅
Now, they are at stake.😅
And they will be defeated by Chinese cars, in the coldest way possible.
Japan is done. China is the king of Car manufacturing today
🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊
I am an Indian and I love China, I wish India China being a neighboring countries become the best friend ❤
Soon Toyota will join in.
two losers don't make one winner
dont be too boastful. Chinese brands maybe best selling these days but this will not last forever. Be magnanimous in victory and gracious in defeat
@@albertteng1191Nah, this is only the beginning of China's dynasty in the automotive industry.
@CrzyD-cv8xz
Discussions regarding the merger between Honda and Nissan are likely to accelerate industry transformation and strengthen competitiveness.
@@aiue-g9f maybe with other companies but Nissan is basically a boat anchor at this point.
There scared of tesla