2025: John gets a scanning electron microscope to make sure the crystalline structure of the material is even across the part 2030: John starts manufacturing in a clean room 2035: John is an early adopter of the single atom 3-D printer #FullGrimsmo 😁😋🦾👍
Ugh, build a sound dampened room for that air compressor. I don't know how you guys can listen to that all day. I know, the mills make a bunch of noise too. But, you could cut a bunch of noise, with a compressor room. You guys have such a sweet factory, i think this would make it even better.
I’ve got a Vision Engineering Mantis for surface-mount soldering, I love it! It’s stereoscopic and has a viewport rather than eyepieces so it’s great if you wear glasses. If you do small stuff, get a microscope - don’t struggle without! Makes life much easier.
On the digital microscope that’s a focus ring not zoom, zoom is done via the buttons. Rest the item being viewed on something, then use the ring to focus and you won’t get all the bouncing of the image.
Regarding the dream setup: get a trinocular head, it has a third “eye”, i.e. camera port. But make sure to get one that is “simul-focal” (don’t know if this is an Amscope term) so that you don’t loose one eye while using the camera. I love my Amscope SM-4T (no camera port though). I use it for microsoldering, so probably similar magnification to your use case. Not a Leica, but it is very very good. Can work under it all day long!
I bought a used Olympus BHM metallurgy microscope from the 80s and wanted to take a look at a blade edge I sharpened to a mirror polished finish with a wicked edge sharpening system; let me tell you, 500x magnification will destroy every perfectionists hopes and dreams >:(
For your microscope you could put a C-mount camera on each eyepiece and watch the feed on a small display with a hood, while showing one or both feeds on a larger display. Edmund Optics has that sort of stuff.
Put something white, like a piece of tshirt, etc over the Coolatrons bendy lights. It will diffuse the light enough to make things alot more viewable, without all the harshness.
I think the Amscope sm4-t does that well. Trinocular for camera, stereo, large working distance at 4.5x, or remove lens for 90x zoom. Very adjustable I use an OTG cable to my phone for quick pictures and videos. Acts as a webcam.
Honestly you just get used to wearing ear muffs all the time... I have some nice bluetooth ear defenders and they stay on pretty much all the time! EDIT: In my shop, not John's, but we produce similar noises! :)
If this audio wasn't altered, I wonder that if with a frequency squeal that consistent. It should be possible to run the audio through a spectrogram, and simply cut anything in that small frequency band, then use that audio for the finish take in the editing process. For small slivers of noise, the rest of the audio, like speaking range is unaffected.
About milling with ball endmill and zero SFM at the tip. Why don't you tip the endmill at some angle so you cut with side of the enmill more? Since the lathe has more axis this is possible. Something like this picture: www.harveyperformance.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ball-nose-milling-figure4.jpg
I have a Chinese stereo microscope with a camera port much cheaper than the Leica. The stereo effect is really valuable especially if you do work under it like soldering smt.
Stranger Parts did a video a while back about them including price, review and link to buy (he bought from someone he does business with often enough in the markets that they put a web storefront up on his suggestion)
Id really like to see one of those large aperture microscopes that people like Dave jones (EEV blog) use on their electronics bench find its way into a machine shop. I think they'd be a whole lot more user friendly for looking at tools than pretty much anything else.
at work we have a Vision Engineering EVO Cam II with Oblique Viewer. perfect picture but they are very expensive from 5-12000 usd but the nice thing is that you can rotate the view without loosing focus
The Leica, brand new, was a lot more than $1700, unless that model, which I’m not familiar with, is older, but it doesn’t look too old. That would be cheap for Leica.I had a Leica stereo model. It was $5.500. A measuring device needs to be five times more accurate than what’s being measuring. That’s the usual standard. It’s never bad to have one more accurate.
Vision Engineering also makes amazing inspection microscopes for electronics and medical, but for metalurgy and metal work inspection, there are many other options. Some older zeiss or leica microscopes could be a good choice.
If anyone wants a cheap microscope to play around with, you can get basic USB microscope on Amazon for around $20-40. You connect it up to a computer to use it. If I was using a microscope for a business, I wouldn't hesitate to spend more than that.
focal range = depth of field;). But yeah, maybe the Grimsmofied term makes more sense as a way to describe how "deep" a focus a lens can hold. Long lenses or macro lenses have very little depth of field, it's just how the physics of lens design works, hence why it's hard to keep an object in focus. Either way, just a tiny detail:)
On the Leica stereomicroscope ..... search for a so called beamsplitter.. if its availeble it wont be cheap but then you can let someone else look at Your point of view (albeit non-stereo) or attach a camera for digital imaging or filming. Look not only for Leica products but also for Zeiss, Haag Streit, Rodenstock etc. reason is the German DIN (Deutsche Industrie Norm) orders the manufacturers to make accesoiries interchangeble. Succes and greetings from the Netherlands.
As you zoom in, the depth of focus gets thin. (Look at macro pictures of bugs and flowers. You'll see that only a hair of the image is in focus.) That's probably the main difference in price. The design effort required to get magnification with a reasonable depth of field is extreme and you shouldn't expect it from an Amazon/BangGood scope. Optics is fussy fussy---not just prototypes but getting a stable design that is manufacturable requires a deep knowledge of optics. Building to a price is a whole other constraint.
If you have to manipulate objects under the microscope, then a stereoscopic is a must. Without depth of field there is no 3D vision. Leica is excellent (I use the same), but there are cheap eastern made "good-nuff" ones too.
Need a stool to sit on. Typical lab stools put you at the correct height to use the microscope. A nice stereo microscope is fun to use. Not as much fun as an electron microscope but a much different price class.
John, we have an even more expensive Leica stereo microscope at work and the microscope itself is really good. The build in/on camera however is just garbage! FPS are so low that it is laggy and the worst thing is that you can‘t adjust lighting, aperture etc. so that the picture on the monitor looks like what you are seeing through the optic. Not even close. So showing someone a particular thing on the monitor that you just saw through the optic just doesn‘t work. The best pictures you can get are still photographs with you phone through the optic. Only advantage of the camerasystem is the software that knows the magnification of the variable zoom so you can use it to measure things quite accurately. There are stereo microscopes with a second set of eyepieces for a second person. Although those are probably not exactly cheap.
I love my $1500 A60... Unfortunately I was spoiled by using a $10000 Olympus at university... My next project is a Canon MP-E lens and a kit built around that.
Leica microscope vs $150 amazon one - in a video from a guy who buys 100K+ German machines. lol. sorry, long time photographer here. I just have to laugh a little.
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2025: John gets a scanning electron microscope to make sure the crystalline structure of the material is even across the part
2030: John starts manufacturing in a clean room
2035: John is an early adopter of the single atom 3-D printer
#FullGrimsmo 😁😋🦾👍
you have to set the limit somewhere, 1 atom accuracy should be enough, we don't need to get into quantum subatomic accuracy.
You can buy a working SEM for under $5-8k if you're lucky :)
IBM did single atom 3-D printing a long time ago actually. Look it up.
@@semillerimages yes I remember when they did that, was pretty cool, arranged some atoms into the IBM logo.
Agree
3 videos in a week? You're really spoiling us ;)
It's either feast or famine around here
Cool shop John, any chance of a shop tour after 1 year at the new location.
Theres been to many new tools added.
keep the videos coming.
Ugh, build a sound dampened room for that air compressor. I don't know how you guys can listen to that all day. I know, the mills make a bunch of noise too. But, you could cut a bunch of noise, with a compressor room. You guys have such a sweet factory, i think this would make it even better.
I’ve got a Vision Engineering Mantis for surface-mount soldering, I love it! It’s stereoscopic and has a viewport rather than eyepieces so it’s great if you wear glasses. If you do small stuff, get a microscope - don’t struggle without! Makes life much easier.
On the digital microscope that’s a focus ring not zoom, zoom is done via the buttons. Rest the item being viewed on something, then use the ring to focus and you won’t get all the bouncing of the image.
I'd be curious to see a comparison with a $300 optical stereomicroscope
Regarding the dream setup: get a trinocular head, it has a third “eye”, i.e. camera port. But make sure to get one that is “simul-focal” (don’t know if this is an Amscope term) so that you don’t loose one eye while using the camera.
I love my Amscope SM-4T (no
camera port though). I use it for microsoldering, so probably similar magnification to your use case. Not a Leica, but it is very very good. Can work under it all day long!
I bought a used Olympus BHM metallurgy microscope from the 80s and wanted to take a look at a blade edge I sharpened to a mirror polished finish with a wicked edge sharpening system; let me tell you, 500x magnification will destroy every perfectionists hopes and dreams >:(
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LOL ! GOOD OBSERVATION
Sir how did you attach iPhone with the microscope?
I wasn't sure what you ment with the stereo microscope until your "Honey i shrunk the kids" explanation LOL
A microscope is really handy when I get a tiny annoying bit of swarf embedded into my skin that I can't see
For your microscope you could put a C-mount camera on each eyepiece and watch the feed on a small display with a hood, while showing one or both feeds on a larger display. Edmund Optics has that sort of stuff.
Put something white, like a piece of tshirt, etc over the Coolatrons bendy lights. It will diffuse the light enough to make things alot more viewable, without all the harshness.
Or just normal baking paper will also do the trick
I think the Amscope sm4-t does that well. Trinocular for camera, stereo, large working distance at 4.5x, or remove lens for 90x zoom. Very adjustable
I use an OTG cable to my phone for quick pictures and videos. Acts as a webcam.
Check out Louis Rossman repair desk set ups. They use microscopes with large TV's in micro soldering.
I would go home with a headache every day working with that high pitched sound in the background all day.
Honestly you just get used to wearing ear muffs all the time... I have some nice bluetooth ear defenders and they stay on pretty much all the time!
EDIT: In my shop, not John's, but we produce similar noises! :)
If this audio wasn't altered, I wonder that if with a frequency squeal that consistent. It should be possible to run the audio through a spectrogram, and simply cut anything in that small frequency band, then use that audio for the finish take in the editing process. For small slivers of noise, the rest of the audio, like speaking range is unaffected.
Did you know you can get measuring scales in the optics? So you can use it like an optical comparator. And yup, these microscopes get calibrated
About milling with ball endmill and zero SFM at the tip. Why don't you tip the endmill at some angle so you cut with side of the enmill more? Since the lathe has more axis this is possible.
Something like this picture:
www.harveyperformance.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ball-nose-milling-figure4.jpg
Looking at your cuticle under a stereoscope is a life changing experience
I have a Chinese stereo microscope with a camera port much cheaper than the Leica. The stereo effect is really valuable especially if you do work under it like soldering smt.
Stranger Parts did a video a while back about them including price, review and link to buy (he bought from someone he does business with often enough in the markets that they put a web storefront up on his suggestion)
@@konobikundude amscope sm4-t is good
You could probably add a Barlow lens to the digital microscope to increase the working distance. Reduces max magnification though.
Does Allan have a twin with a second Leica a60 to giveaway!!! Thank you for video ... made up my mind; have to drop the cash! Cheers!
Id really like to see one of those large aperture microscopes that people like Dave jones (EEV blog) use on their electronics bench find its way into a machine shop.
I think they'd be a whole lot more user friendly for looking at tools than pretty much anything else.
at work we have a Vision Engineering EVO Cam II with Oblique Viewer. perfect picture but they are very expensive from 5-12000 usd
but the nice thing is that you can rotate the view without loosing focus
Great video. May invest in the cheaper model to use with my Wicked Edge.
The Leica, brand new, was a lot more than $1700, unless that model, which I’m not familiar with, is older, but it doesn’t look too old. That would be cheap for Leica.I had a Leica stereo model. It was $5.500.
A measuring device needs to be five times more accurate than what’s being measuring. That’s the usual standard. It’s never bad to have one more accurate.
Check the cutting edges of tools.
Vision Engineering also makes amazing inspection microscopes for electronics and medical, but for metalurgy and metal work inspection, there are many other options. Some older zeiss or leica microscopes could be a good choice.
If anyone wants a cheap microscope to play around with, you can get basic USB microscope on Amazon for around $20-40. You connect it up to a computer to use it. If I was using a microscope for a business, I wouldn't hesitate to spend more than that.
I like high powered illuminated magnifying glasses and/or shadowgraphs for inspection.
focal range = depth of field;). But yeah, maybe the Grimsmofied term makes more sense as a way to describe how "deep" a focus a lens can hold. Long lenses or macro lenses have very little depth of field, it's just how the physics of lens design works, hence why it's hard to keep an object in focus.
Either way, just a tiny detail:)
The dark part in the steel is because of high carbon in the steel and then you edge it and the bright is because of higher nickel in the steel
On the Leica stereomicroscope ..... search for a so called beamsplitter.. if its availeble it wont be cheap but then you can let someone else look at Your point of view (albeit non-stereo) or attach a camera for digital imaging or filming. Look not only for Leica products but also for Zeiss, Haag Streit, Rodenstock etc. reason is the German DIN (Deutsche Industrie Norm) orders the manufacturers to make accesoiries interchangeble. Succes and greetings from the Netherlands.
As you zoom in, the depth of focus gets thin. (Look at macro pictures of bugs and flowers. You'll see that only a hair of the image is in focus.) That's probably the main difference in price. The design effort required to get magnification with a reasonable depth of field is extreme and you shouldn't expect it from an Amazon/BangGood scope. Optics is fussy fussy---not just prototypes but getting a stable design that is manufacturable requires a deep knowledge of optics. Building to a price is a whole other constraint.
If you have to manipulate objects under the microscope, then a stereoscopic is a must. Without depth of field there is no 3D vision. Leica is excellent (I use the same), but there are cheap eastern made "good-nuff" ones too.
Need a stool to sit on. Typical lab stools put you at the correct height to use the microscope. A nice stereo microscope is fun to use. Not as much fun as an electron microscope but a much different price class.
A Canon MP-E 65mm and a cheap full-frame body makes a pretty good middle ground.
John, we have an even more expensive Leica stereo microscope at work and the microscope itself is really good. The build in/on camera however is just garbage! FPS are so low that it is laggy and the worst thing is that you can‘t adjust lighting, aperture etc. so that the picture on the monitor looks like what you are seeing through the optic. Not even close. So showing someone a particular thing on the monitor that you just saw through the optic just doesn‘t work. The best pictures you can get are still photographs with you phone through the optic.
Only advantage of the camerasystem is the software that knows the magnification of the variable zoom so you can use it to measure things quite accurately. There are stereo microscopes with a second set of eyepieces for a second person. Although those are probably not exactly cheap.
I love my $1500 A60... Unfortunately I was spoiled by using a $10000 Olympus at university...
My next project is a Canon MP-E lens and a kit built around that.
That’s pretty impressive for $150
Great topic for a video John. Agree 100% that every shop needs a way to magnify! Great for sliver removal too. ;)
Use to use a 15,000$ scope that was fun
dang we have the same phone lol. I have a magnifying glass app on my phone and it actually works quite well for sharpening purposes
For the untrained eye boy! that’s a lousy finish then you pull back boy! what a baby’s butt smooth finish. Enjoy your videos THANKS. 🇺🇸
Starrett loupe if you wanna go old school.
Loupes are a great addition to any keychain.
i set the limit at a 6" caliper and 1" mic haha.
A microscope isn't very realistic for the work i do. Most of my projects are hundred or thousands of pounds lol
Cool devices, thx for sharing 😊
Your photographer needs to learn how to use a tripod or a steadycam of some sort.
Leica microscope vs $150 amazon one - in a video from a guy who buys 100K+ German machines. lol. sorry, long time photographer here. I just have to laugh a little.
Let it soak for a couple days and you find a way to justify the $3400 ... ;) #FullGrimsmo
He said it was given to him for free and that it was 1700.
@@nes999 Yes that one he has. But the next step with 1080 recording was $3400
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