Yugoslavia 1-4 England (1987) ECQ
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- England go into a tough-looking final qualifier for the 1988 European Championships needing a point away to Yugoslavia in November 1987 to reach the finals. In wet conditions in Belgrade, England produce an incredible performance to lead 4-0 after 25 minutes thanks to goals from Peter Beardsley, John Barnes, Bryan Robson and Tony Adams. The game is long over before Katanec pulls one back near the end - the only goal England concede in qualifying for either Euro 88 or Italia 90.
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Was at this game and walking around Belgrade was impressed by how friendly the Yugoslav people were.Such a crying shame that the country fell to bits and suffered so much.
@Hannibal Barca icke calls them lizards! 😆
thank you for kind words
So friendly they started to kill each other.
Sto lazes kada su vas Srbski huligani prebili samo tako .bio sam i ja
@@user-jn1tr8mo3gzivela velika Srbija i majka Rusija smrt engleskoj
Jedan od najstramnijih poraza reprezentacije u moje sjecanje
Some of Beardsleys goals were just cheeky!!!!
Never thought Brian "and it's in there" Moore had much idea. The fact he didn't know what was going on with the backpass sums it up. He then guesses it's Lineker when it's Robson and seems unable to identify Tony Adams. And you wonder why folks preferred the BBC's coverage.
He did sometimes seem to get confused towards the end of his commentary career, but he was still a great football presenter.
A far better interviewer though. His film he made with Brian Clough was great
Perhaps it was the early onset of dementia
I think in his favour though is the fact that a commentator can get away with some mishaps and inaccurate statements if engaging to listen to (Murray Walker as the best example) and in that respect he had a good voice for commentary and he also had a good mix of talking calmly until the point he actually got excited and then sounding genuine when he did. I did notice Brian Clough needed to explain the reason for the indirect free-kick in the area, but I did wonder what that was for myself at first (since the backpass rule came in it's not been relevant though I suppose, but I do remember vaguely now that rule about the ball needing to leave the area before the goalie could pick it up after he rolls it to a team-mate - I can't even be sure he'd be allowed to kick it but Clough didn't suggest he wouldn't and it would seem a bit farcical if he just had to leave it alone or give away the free-kick!).
Žao mi je Ravnića,nakon ovog više nije ušao u repku,a bio je najbolji yu-golman u to vrijme...
An excellent England team put in a great performance and got a great result. Only difference is I would have had Hoddle and Waddle in for Webb and Steven
The two first goals were two gifts from Yugoslavia to England.
Expected to be a tough game but when I got home from school I was pleasantly surprised to see we were 3-0 up.One of our most impressive wins of the 80's probably.
We're probably around the same age. I have almost the same memory but by the time I got home from school England had already scored 4.
@@MrRickytuk I was 12/13 at the time mate.I was half expecting a draw so to go there and win 4-1 was really good.
I don't know why it's taken me so long but I've only recently begun to appreciate 'just' how good a goalkeeper Peter Shilton actually was. At his peak he may even have been the Worlds No.1?
Forest wouldn't have won what they did without him
And everytime a goal was scored it was always everyone elses fault around him rather than his own
@@mcharrisment4765 should we have expected any other type of comment from someone called Harrisment. Jog on mate.
Cost us in the 86 and 90 world cups
I think Neville Southall was better, but there wer exceptional keepers around that time
One of the most talented, skilled and under achieving teams in England's history. At times they looked totally unbeatable.
All about the timing. We peaked in 1987. By the time the Euro 88 tournament came around we were on a mini decline. Injury robbed us of Terry Butcher. Gary Lineker was unknowingly suffering from Hepatitis. John Barnes and Peter Beardsley had lost form at international level.
@@adamw2911 One of the things that pisses me off about the England '88' wipeout is people say how poor England were they..!, Firstly they pissed all over the Irish who somehow managed to score form one of the two chances their had on goal, England had about nine but Lineker was out of shape..(even Roy Keane said England should have won it easily, The match against Holland who were possibly one of the best international teams of all time and it was 1;1 for 70 mins, Lineker hit the post twice before Van Basten scored and Gary also hit the crossbar for a non existent offside when the score was even, if it had gone that would have been controversial..The game against the Soviet Union was a clear defeat but it was over by then..By the way Denmark lost all their matches in Euro 88 as well...Context is important..
Yugoslavia’s Marko Elsner had a nightmare of a match and his display was mostly blamed by the press for the disastrous Yugoslavian performance. He was replaced as early as the 29th minute by Milan jankovic, with England already 4-0 up.
Elsner played as a libero in this match although he was a midfielder at his club OGC Nice.
Yugoslavia of the 1980's had some brilliant individual players. So much so, that it became known as the Brazil of Europe. But for some reason they would sometimes fall apart after going a goal down such as in this game at home, or the 3 results that they got in the Euro 84.
Marko Elsner die 2020. 5. 18.
@@pedddler Yugoslavia throughout their history always produced teams who played real football but didn't back it up with practical things like scoring goals and keeping clean sheets. They were also temperamental, lacked aggression in the penalty area and didn't have natural goalscorers.
@@gunternetzer9621 = What about Pancev! 1 of the finest Centre Forwards ever.❤
Osimov "protege" Hadžibegić, tehnički očajan, kiks-igrač, strašna zabluda YU-fudbala. Osim se pomuslimančio ženidbom i za njega su postojali samo sarajevski muslimani kao likovi od poverenja. Nisu svi bili loši, ali su bili svakako precenjeni! Hadžibegić pogotovo.
Ostala mu je ta mrlja do dana danasnjeg. Zato i nismo usli u finale na SP 90-te.
Imperialist forces have always won in world football. You do not have to tell me long. Trabzonspor fans a from Turkey. As a retired colonel, I fought this game on television. It's such a disaster. Only match 1-0 would continue with the dominance of Yugoslavia. In a way, he managed to score a draw against England. In the tournaments I have found, Romania (4) is defeated in Hungary, Bulgaria, Poland (2) and is out of the tournament. As a Turk, on the eve of Yugoslav football, Serbs, Croats have come before .. Arsenijevic, Bobek, Sekularaç, Tirnanic, Milutinovic, Dzalic, Stankovic, Boskov, Lipošinović, Vujadinović, Mitic, Tchaikovsky brothers. ... etc. He could change his preferences a bit more in this match. Otherwise Yugoslavia has more football than England and it is there....
Match No. 629 - Wednesday, 11th November 1987,
Yugoslavia 1 - 4 England
European Championship Qualifier (Euro 88 Qualifying Group 4)
Stadion Crvena Zvezda, Belgrade
Srecko Katanec, 80'....... Peter Beardsley, 3' John Barnes, 17' Bryan Robson, 20' Tony Adams, 25'
1Mauro Ravnic .., Rijeka, Hırvatistan HT 12Vladan Radaca ..Svilajnac, Sırbistan
2Zoran Vujovic ..Saraybosna, Bosna-Hersek
3Mirsad Baljic.. Saraybosna, Bosna-Hersek
4Srecko Katanec.. Ljubljana, Slovenya
5Marko Elsner .., Ljubljana, Slovenya 26' 14Milan Jankovic..Belgrad, Sırbistan
6Faruk Hadzibegic..Saraybosna, Bosna-Hersek
7Dragan Stojkovic.. Niş, Sırbistan
8Marko Mlinaric .. Zagreb, Hırvatistan
9Fadil Vokrri ..Poduyeva Kosova
10Mehmed Bazdarevic.. Višegrad, Bosna-Hersek
11Zlatko Vujovic (c) .. Saraybosna, Bosna-Hersek
Coach...Ivica Osim ..Saraybosna, Bosna-Hersek
Peter Beardsley, 3'
John Barnes, 17'
Bryan Robson, 20'
Tony Adams, 25'
1Peter Shilton
2Gary Stevens
3Kenny Sansom
4Trevor Steven
5Tony Adams
6Terry Butcher
7Bryan Robson (c) 76' 14Peter Reid
8Neil Webb 80' 15Glenn Hoddle
9Peter Beardsley
10Gary Lineker
11John Barnes
Coach..Bobby Robson
**************************************************************************
Match No. 320 - Sunday, 11th May 1958
Yugoslavia 5 - 0 England
Friendly
JNA Stadion, Belgrade
Milos Milutinovic, 23'
Alexsandar Petakovic, 56'
Alexsandar Petakovic, 77'
Alexsandar Petakovic, 83'
Todor Veselinovic, 86'
1Vladimir Beara
2Tomislav Crnkovic
3Vasilije Sijakovic
4Dobrosav Krstic
5Branko Zebec
6Vujadin Boskov
7Alexsandar Petakovic
8Todor Veselinovic
9Milos Milutinovic
10Dragoslav ekularac
11Ilijas Pasic
1Eddie Hopkinson
2Don Howe
3Jim Langley
4Ronnie Clayton
5Billy Wright (c)
6Bill Slater
7Bryan Douglas
8Bobby Charlton
9Derek Kevan
10Johnny Haynes
11Tom Finney
i još je zajebo penal protiv argentine 1990.g.... ko je njemu dao da puca , seljačina napuhana... inače na ovoj utakmici protiv engleza četiri pacerska gola kakve nemožeš vidjeti ni u seoskim ligama ...
How the Yugo manager Ivica Osim survived this game, it's amazing, as an Yugoslav manager you'd be odds on to get the axe even for a draw, the general opinion was that they were certain to win this one :)
Aye, some legend's in that Yugoslavia side/squad eh. Dunno why Darko Pancev wasn't in this particular match though!
@@nickycotton6137 He wasn't quite yet the star that he became afer joining Red Star shortly thereafter.
@@chelsblue7370 = Fair-Shout. Didn't get as many caps + goals as thought (for Yugo') & just recall was costly in 'Play By Mail' did in late 80's/early 90's. Nice1..👍
We were blessed to have Sir Bobby Robson lead us.
Steven Champion yes, the man that regularly played JohnBarnes out of position, ensuring that he could never be as influential in a game as he could with Liverpool. The greatest and easily the best player we’ve ever had, but was so stupidly used by Robson. The team is normally set up to show off the talents of the best player, but obviously Robson ignored that, denying England to become a real force in world football, which we were, but could have done so much more
@@elena16350 The issue with John Barnes was that as much of a star that he was for Watford and specially for Liverpool, he barely played well for England no matter who the manager of England was.
After Sir Bobby Robson stepped down at the end of the 1990 world cup, Barnes old manager at Watford Graham Taylor took charge of the team, and could not make Barnes perform as well for England as those 4 great years at Watford.
Well overrated.
@@pedddler liverpool played him in more of a free role and Robson only realised this in his last year with England and the less said about Taylor's management the better...
Remember this so clearly. Firstly, did anybody else noticed the advertising hoarding "Googlebox" near the corner flag - first thing caught my eye! Anyway, I remember this game because at time time, where I was working, I requested to take half-a day's holiday leave in order to watch the game at home. People in my office asked If I was doing anything nice that afternoon, I replied "yeah, I'll be watching England against Yugoslavia!" My work colleagues didn't believe me at first, they couldn't believe anyone would take an afternoon off work to watch a football match - they honestly thought I was going to a job interview!!!! Eventually they believed me, but spoke among themselves about how crazy I must be!!!!!!
When I got home from school we were already 3-0 up but I totally understand you taking a half day holiday for it from work.I've done that numerous times for football.
If Yugoslavia had the will to win in football to match there incredible talent they'd have definitely won a world cup.or euro in there era
Perhaps England's best performance under Bobby Robson considering it was in Belgrade against the always technically excellent Yugoslavs. A bit of a a one off though and made easier by the Yugoslavs losing heart early on (as they were inclined to do ) by giving away two goals.
Their first home defeat for a long time as well. I went and was shocked we turned them over so easily
And England's first win in Yugoslavia
@@TheEssexSpurs
I told my maths teacher (ironically, called Mr English) that I had a dentist appointment so I could get home and watch this match.
Running home in typically murky UK autumnal weather to make sure I was home for the start. Told another lie to my Dad as to why I was home early 😂
Then the goals started flying in...I shouted my Dad that they were 3 up - he didn't believe me!!
Almost 30 years I believed that fifth England's goal was from offside. Now I see it was completely regular gol.
fine conclusion
It didn’t look offside the first time and after reviewing it, it definitely wasn’t even close to being offside.
@@bigphil331 I watched it again, maybe the referees were right, the offside could be even twice, at 7:05 we can't see it completely, but it seems that it was obviously offside and at 7:07 where Robson is so close to be in offside.
This is why England were among the favourites for Euro 88. One unexpected result against Ireland followed by Marco van Basten brutally exposing Adams’ weaknesses, and the press was screaming GO at Bobby Robson.
I totally agree. It was this same team with the addition of Gascoigne and David Platt which almost made it to the final game of the 1990 world cup two years later.
But for the longest time, the issue with England had always been the incapability of coming back and winning games after going a goal or two down against quality opponents, unlike the West Germany of the time.
@@pedddler How can you call it the same team. You've forgotten two of the most important players - Walker and Pearce. And your second point seems bizarre given that England came back against Cameroon to win.
@@annandune The core of the England team of the Euro 88, was the same as the team of the world cup 1990.
The come back against Cameroon was an exception which did not happen that often.
On the other hand, England has suffered too many loses after going behind. Against Portugal in 86. Against Ireland and Holland in 88. Against Sweden which England scored first but then lost 2-1 in Euro 92. Against both Norway and Holland in the 94 qualifiers which England lost 2-0 in both games and failed to qualify. Against Italy at Wembley in 1997 which England lost 1-0.
So you see, England has suffered way too many important losses after going behind.
@@pedddler Well you were talking about a specific tournament, and it that specific tournament they did exactly the thing you said they didn't do. In fact, even again West Germany, whilst they didn't come back to win, they did come back to take it to extra time and then penalties as Germany had taken the league.
In terms of the first part, you cannot say the team is the same when four players are different. That is a third of the team. But it is even more than that.
The starting elevens of this game ( Yugoslavia and England ) and the semi final against Germany look like this:
@@annandune It is hard to understand what your point is. The core of the England team in the 88 Euros and in the 1990 world cup apart from a few players was the same and that is how it is supposed to be since the distance between the two tournaments was only two years and also England had the same coach in Bobby Robson.
As I mentioned with facts, England's record of coming back from a goal or two down unlike West Germany and later Germany, has been terrible. In fact the game against Cameroon was an exception which does not happen for England that often. And the semi final game against West Germany, despite coming back from a goal down, they lost at the end. Yes they lost on penalties, but it was recorded as a loss.
A very under-rated result and performance by England.
They put themselves under pressure by dropping points in Turkey, but came up trumps here.
Please don't mention him.
Peter Shilton was nearly 40 from his 18th birthday onwards
Great result for England.
That Shilton save on 8.53 highlighted one of the differences between him and other keepers as he held onto it. I've heard the ball is lighter these days which goes some way to explaining why modern keepers don't hold the ball as well but at the time there were few who would hold onto such saves and none who could match Shilton.
At 7:08 the England disallowed goal: the 'scorer' was definitely not offside. Quite apart from being behind the passer when the pass was made, the Yugoslavian no. 2 in front of the goal was playing him onside.
Lineker might've been offside, but the ref isn't pointing at Lineker's position, so he's incorrectly ruled Beardsley offside.
'Of all things it's Adams'. Tony Adams is a thing.
remember that match... England had a great team. Atmosphere was built before day of the game and Yugo team was good, but defence players did horrible mistake in early part of game and then they literary fall apart. They were experienced players but not clean situation at first goal..and then that completely stupid move to get ball in hands from goalkeeper..How could they do that? just like kids from playground brought to play for national team..After that whole team just wanted to disappear and England could easy score 3-4 goals more..
koliko smo tad bili slabi pokazuje ova utakmica sa englezima koji su na ep 1988 bili na poslednjem mestu,isto vazi i za kvalifikacije za sp 1990 jedino sto smo imali srecu da padnemo u lakoj grupi satada potpuno izgubljenim francuzima i skotima
Boss goalie tops at both ends
od 4 gola, 3 zajebo elsner .... hadžibegić i elsner - recept za katastrofu
Mauro Ravnić, jedan od nesrećnijih golmana srfj... Šteta što nisu igrali najbolji već se reprezentacija sfrj oduvek sastavljala metodom bratstva i jedinstva, tj jednakosti. Iz svake republike podjednako. Braća Vujovići mi nikada nisu bila simpatična. Zlatko je više promašivao nego što je pogađao stopostotne šanse..
Amazing qualifying campaign, only conceded a single goal, in this, the final game, against a solid Yugoslav side. Confidence was high for Euro '88, that soon evaporated against Ireland
Yes,like many others I was confident going into Euro 88 ( didn't think we'd win it but probably go close) but it turned out to be a disaster.
Interesting style of shorts the Yugoslavian team had. They've got little back pockets!!
Merci grosse prestation Anglaise 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼✅✅
A,gde je snimak drugog poluvremena,koje smo dobili 1-0,samnom na golu?
One of the very few games that Terry Butcher and Tony Adams played together for England
Caged Tigers !!
Both with the turning circle of the Titanic.
Well, once you have Des Walker in your team it becomes a matter of who to play alongside him.
in this time england was very strog!..but 4:1 in Belgrade respect!
Euro 88 came 7 months too late for England. We peaked here
How was that offside the last goal that went in for england omg it was clear clear miles onside
faz Patel you are right.... no offside there at all....
“Of all things it’s Tony Adams ! “ 🤣😂
07:09 -čist gol Engleza za 5:0. Nije ofsajd.
Shimmy wimmy flim flam flom diddly shabadoo
A Zlatko Vujovic,dan pre ovog meca izjavljuje:'"SILTONE CUVAJ MREZU!" Stvarala se takva euforija danima pre utakmice,cak je i legendarna emisija INDIREKT cela bila posvecena ovom mecu.Steta,stvarno,jer su Englezi ispali na EURO 1988 u grupnoj fazi.
Ma i taj Vujović je bio precenjen.. za njega je Piksi izmislio fudbal.
@@barni349 Evropsko prventstvo 1988 uopste nije uticalo na odluku dali produziti kaznu Engleskim klubovima, iako su navijaci opet dobro divljali.
@@barni349 Ako ima link, hteo bih da procitam. Ne sam da nista nisam nasao dosad, nego se ne secam da je i tada imalo ikakve veze.
Znaci nisu ih odjednom kaznili 5 godina
Znaci nisu ih odjednom kaznili 5 godina
Jai vu le match a la television je me souvien tres bien
ALSO A LUCKY 9 - 0 AGAINST ZAIRE IN 74 DUMPING OUT THE HAGGIS EATERS
*brutally taken down at the edge of the box* lol he was literally tripped
Robson was onside for the fifth.
This was the most talented England team ever.
@ I was there. They looked completely knackered.
@@tsmay4598 I envy your attendance, maybe they were amongst the most talented but fitness and conditioning wasn't up to snuff it seems... Something we always complain about when we seem to lack a yard of pace at finals. I was young then, and was so gutted about how poor we were, especially as I think that goal against Yugoslavia, was the only one conceded in qualifying...
Further I thought Shilton (36) was a weak link at 1986, and was awful in '88 and couldn't jump aged 40 at Italia' 90. Bobby Robson didn't have the balls to drop him and the papers kept hailing him as the 'best in the world, he wasn't'. Maybe 10 years earlier he was.
BTW I prefer Butland to Pickford so... Personal choice
@ In those days, teams picked their best eleven for all league, FA Cup and League Cup Matches, so there was no resting of players. And there was (and still is) no winter break and the condition of pitches was appalling (matches were played on mud, not grass) by Spring which put an extry strain on the players.
No need to envy me though, as the two matches I attended (versus Netherlands and Russia) were really disappointing. The match against the Netherlands was actually a really good match and could have gone either way, but they were awful against Russia. And it was heart-breaking to hear the amount of abuse Barnes had to put up with.
@@tsmay4598 spot on with the analysis of the lack of rotation, pitches etc. Good reminder. I wonder what it was like on the continent.
The racial abuse, yep that's another nauseating story... Could go on all day about that. I was on the terraces at OT c. 1992, Danny Wallace was playing for United then but his best years at the Saints were far behind him. A guy a couple of rows back called him that word, one of our fans! Noone said shit, not for, not against. No stewards came, none were called for. I was around 15, I couldn't say something, it's not worth it a kid speaking up but that ugliness gets everywhere.
I don't get people saying it's still bad after what's been said to Sterling, Fred etc recently. Its awful but it's nowhere near the 70s and 80s, and there are always going to be scumbags. Ban them, arrest them and fine them heavily. Its the only way. It's remarked on now with such disgust because it still exists, and that should be how it's treated but it was the norm back in the day and nowhere near enough was said and done by those in positions of authority.
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1:35 -Why do the Yugoslav player’s shorts have pockets?
Najjači transparent
RUDARI IZ BANOVIĆA😘
Brian Moore there, mistaking Robson for Lineker.
Biosam na tekmi i pevao ko bude bolji .
Well done to England but Yugoslav defense made some idiotic mistakes in this match!
From this short video it seems to understand that Yugoslavia had some problems in defense!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ja mislim da je samo ovaj gol primila Engleska u ovim kvalikvacijama i da ga je dao Jozic
Alaj su nas rasturili..svaka im cast!
Shilton's winky is barely fitting on his wee shorts
Al su nas osamarali Englezi!
Bu maçı izledim, yugoslavya çok hatalı goller aldı
Brian Moore's commentary was terrible.
Got to the Euros and was knocked out at the first stage! Typical
That might be because the two teams finishing first and second in England's group were the finalists.
After this we were going to walk it at euro 88,but as usual we underachieved🏆🥇😂😂
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Crni Elzner.
Basit planlar, basit ve hızlı çözümler, rakiplerin aptallığı... İngiltere'nin gol mekaniği... Tabii Lineker
"and we're 2 ahead". Not allowed to say that these days, the snowflakes protest about biased commentary.
Or Afghanistans,or Iraq people,or.......england is the biggest world shame
you sir are a bellend.
Jovan Mihaljica is your other name Jeremy Corbyn?
As opposed to your Communist dictatorship, civil war and non-existant cultural or technological contribution to the world. Back in your box knobhead.
fuck you we saved their asses fuck you [ fight your own war
Jovan Mihaljica It’s a football video you pillock. Take your muppet political comments onto some whiny left wing video