You might find this interesting. While traveling in Egypt, in 1983, we were staying in a guest house or hotel near Karnak. Even though Egypt is a Muslim country they are eager to cater to non-Muslim tourists. We were offered bottles of white wine. It had been improperly stored and Egypt is very hot, so we were dubious. When the wine was opened it was not white but amber in color and tasted like a dry Mareira. I surmise that the heating and cooling in Egypt affected the wine like the method used in curing Madeira. We asked for more but we had just consumed the last of their stock. Wine stored in resin coated amphorae sounds like Greek retsina, and given transportation methods, long voyages subject to temperature variation, we might be looking for modified rather than what we now consider standard wines. As Usual this is a very thought-provoking video.
@@stupidminotaur9735 Silphium was primarily a medicine, but also used in food, which, considering that it is/was likely a species of Fennel, checks out. But yes, it already has a dedicated video.
There's lately been some reports that they might have found silphium back in Turkey, a place where people might have tried to transplant it to back in the era. Though I don't know if that was ultimately fully confirmed or not. Still it would be interesting if it were found back.
Apple varieties are incredibly variable and need reselecting if their characterists are to be maintained so even if descendants of Jefferson's trees were found they probably wouldn't taste the same. That said it might be possible to find seeds of his apples and clone the genome.
Yeah, afaik, if you planted 100 seeds of a specific apple tree you'd get 100 different kinds of apples. Most of those would be bad tasting. None replicating the original. Which is why limb grafting is used to continue a type of apple.
I could use my time machine to get all of these for my Thanksgiving dinner... but I already bought the turkey so maybe next year. (Or maybe last year - hard to tell when you own a time machine.) ;)
Step one: find the lost city. Step two: dig up the latrine. Step three sift the poo-dirt for the grape seeds. Step four: plant the grape seeds. Step five: harvest grapes and make wine. Step six: profit. 😂
With the elephant reference - one has to keep in mind that the Romans were likely familiar with smaller north african elephants that were about 2.5 meters tall.
One most regularly served proto-fast foods in Old West-era eating joints was the "pigeon pie" which was plumb-near exclusively made with passenger pigeon. It was described as a mighty good-tasting bird; just shy of the ranking of quail.
Usually, the types of apples used to make cider are completely different than types we use as food & are often said to be pretty crappy for anything other than their juice, for one reason or another.
The periansvians used a fruit to help (used) them during human sacrifices rituals scientist have found ancient ones of them at the sites but i dont know if they have been dna tested to see which of the 1000+ vartits of the fruit it is.
Love the video! Some minor feedback - when you rattle off things like size comparisons, relative dates, etc., my brain tends to short circuit and I lose track of the numbers and what the comparison means. Like with the bull vs moose comparison at 1:02, I immediately forgot the ancient bull measurements and am not sure which animal is even larger (although I assume the ancient bull is just by context.) A simple chart or text representation of those would be very helpful to let us follow along with your script in my opinion.
You might find this interesting. While traveling in Egypt, in 1983, we were staying in a guest house or hotel near Karnak. Even though Egypt is a Muslim country they are eager to cater to non-Muslim tourists. We were offered bottles of white wine. It had been improperly stored and Egypt is very hot, so we were dubious. When the wine was opened it was not white but amber in color and tasted like a dry Mareira. I surmise that the heating and cooling in Egypt affected the wine like the method used in curing Madeira. We asked for more but we had just consumed the last of their stock.
Wine stored in resin coated amphorae sounds like Greek retsina, and given transportation methods, long voyages subject to temperature variation, we might be looking for modified rather than what we now consider standard wines. As Usual this is a very thought-provoking video.
It also doesn’t help that Egypt still has a sizable Christian minority in the Copts.
Another, very sad, example would be silphium, which was such a successful medicinal herb that it was harvested to extinction.
i think he did that 1 already in another video. and not really a food.
@@stupidminotaur9735 Silphium was primarily a medicine, but also used in food, which, considering that it is/was likely a species of Fennel, checks out. But yes, it already has a dedicated video.
There's lately been some reports that they might have found silphium back in Turkey, a place where people might have tried to transplant it to back in the era.
Though I don't know if that was ultimately fully confirmed or not. Still it would be interesting if it were found back.
@@Quickshot0 that or just a closely related plant. there's quite a few......
It was very popular, not clear how useful it was though.
Apple varieties are incredibly variable and need reselecting if their characterists are to be maintained so even if descendants of Jefferson's trees were found they probably wouldn't taste the same. That said it might be possible to find seeds of his apples and clone the genome.
Yeah, afaik, if you planted 100 seeds of a specific apple tree you'd get 100 different kinds of apples. Most of those would be bad tasting. None replicating the original. Which is why limb grafting is used to continue a type of apple.
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I could use my time machine to get all of these for my Thanksgiving dinner... but I already bought the turkey so maybe next year. (Or maybe last year - hard to tell when you own a time machine.) ;)
Step one: find the lost city. Step two: dig up the latrine. Step three sift the poo-dirt for the grape seeds. Step four: plant the grape seeds. Step five: harvest grapes and make wine. Step six: profit. 😂
The perfection of that last line is really getting to me. I’ll never be able to produce a more appropriate sentence and I’m
Not happy about that
I find the lack of silphium in this video disturbing
What? No mention of dodo meat?
Or Baiji meat
They ate the eggs, not the meat
I mean you could include so many extinct animals
@duckpotat9818 Not so many that were hunted to extinction by humans who ate them, so recently that we have drawings and paintings.
By all accounts it tasted terrible. It was hunted for the docility of the bird, not the taste.
First one looks like a Texas Longhorn.
With the elephant reference - one has to keep in mind that the Romans were likely familiar with smaller north african elephants that were about 2.5 meters tall.
Now I am curious about the taste of passenger pigeon. Surely there must be some accounts that discuss its flavour (and how best to prepare it).
One most regularly served proto-fast foods in Old West-era eating joints was the "pigeon pie" which was plumb-near exclusively made with passenger pigeon. It was described as a mighty good-tasting bird; just shy of the ranking of quail.
Wine dork here but orange wines like we're described in the second example dont usually have a bourbon like color.
Well just based on the looks that apple looks similar to ones we sell today.
Usually, the types of apples used to make cider are completely different than types we use as food & are often said to be pretty crappy for anything other than their juice, for one reason or another.
@MrChristianDT the video said he also ate them because of the taste. My job is produce. I know
"Most mysterious apple on the internet"
The periansvians used a fruit to help (used) them during human sacrifices rituals scientist have found ancient ones of them at the sites but i dont know if they have been dna tested to see which of the 1000+ vartits of the fruit it is.
You missed Hallucigenia from the Cambrian smh
Did the dog walks happen though? This is necessary information
Just like any boy I've always dreamt of eating a Dodo bird
Three Walks?!
Call of the Wild
Ayyyyyyyyy, da plain of Fonzi!
Love the video! Some minor feedback - when you rattle off things like size comparisons, relative dates, etc., my brain tends to short circuit and I lose track of the numbers and what the comparison means. Like with the bull vs moose comparison at 1:02, I immediately forgot the ancient bull measurements and am not sure which animal is even larger (although I assume the ancient bull is just by context.)
A simple chart or text representation of those would be very helpful to let us follow along with your script in my opinion.
it doesn't help that he's using the French Communist numbers. both bull moose and auruch were 6ft tall but auruchs were twice as heavy
and then he says they were between 680 AD ( a date?) and 1600 kg
@@Joe-sg9llYeah, stick to Imperial measurements like a good imperialist. 😝
I wanna taste garum.
Turn comments on pls
Hawai'ian poi dogs (not that I'd want to eat a dog). ='[.]'=
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First! 🐦
your father and i are so proud of you
I am unsubcribing because of too many ads.
Just pay for YT premium
@@posticusmaximus1739 Won’t be long until we have to pay for YT premium + to remove ads. Least that’s the trend these subscription services are going