I have been keto/carnivore for fifteen months. Five years ago I had a CAC score done. My CAC score came out to zero. I just recently had another one done. Again my CAC score came out to zero. My HDL to triglyceride ratio is currently 0.8. Although there may be other factors to look at, this clearly indicates to me that I am on the right track. Also down to my high school weight at close to 64 years old. Bonus!
Thanks for doing the heavy lifting. In this age of misinformation, your analysis of the research and educational videos are such a valuable "public health" initiative. I invite all viewers to subscribe to this channel.
With diabetes being the number one risk factor for heart disease, it only makes sense that a low carb/sugar diet would reduce the risk of heart disease.
I’m glad I stumbled on your channel! I have come to realize that we must look at the brain as both separate and distinctly intertwined with body. I love that this podcast is helping to dismantle old thought patterns and create new insights into this mind body connection. I am going to scroll your content for first where to begin! Thanks
Dr. Atkins said, decades ago, the best indicator of heart disease risk is HDL to triglyceride ratio. Is that right? If so, seems like clean keto is the best - b/c HDL goes up, triglycerides go down. Like clockwork. Eat lots of fatty fish for the HDL; cut out sugar and drastically reduce carbs so triglycerides go down. Easy peasy.
TG:HDL ratio is a very good predictor of cardiac risk. However, I think it is challenging to say one marker is "the best." I think it is best to use a number of markers to get a sense of the overall picture, but there is no question that TG:HDL is a very powerful marker.
For optimal metabolic health, Tg:HDL ratio of less than 1.5 seems like a good target for most people. But like any test, it should be taken into context of other metabolic health markers. We have a few videos about labs to check that may be helpful. ruclips.net/video/tSkOw3l8OoQ/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/W-lmYCqjtmg/видео.html
I was referred to a cardiologist when I wentbin to see why I had some pain and shortness of breath. Covid hit before I could get all the scheduling done. Started keto a month later, lost weight and pain and shortness of breath. Been ketovore for 4 years and have had no return of symptoms.
Interesting that this video just comes out today. Yesterday I went to my doctor in Japan for a checkup, and talked about being on ketovore for the last 4 months. He was quite impressed that my joint and lower-back pain had gone, and my chronic sinus irritation has almost disappeared. But he warned me that this diet would damaged my heart and liver due to too much protein. I don't have any studies in Japanese to dispute this and his English isn't very good, so it was hard to push back, and I didn't see any point in stirring up a confrontation. So I just said I'd consider it.
Now with Google Translate it's easier to translate academic papers. The grammar in the translated paper may not be excellent, but the drier content of academic papers generally makes translations easier than works of fiction in which sayings can be lost in translation
The keto ldl cholesterol hyper response tends to happen to those with a bmi less than 25 (lean mass hyper responders). Obesity is defined as a bmi over 30 , so ldl won't increase for those who need to do keto , but may be concerned about cholesterol.My ldl is about 300 , as an lmhr /bmi 23 , but my cac score is zero at 51 years of age ,(zero plaque in my coronary arteries).
Did you ever have habitual unhealthy diet / lifestyle choices? Like eating highly processed foods, drinking alcohol, smoking, being inactive, etc. I’m curious if the CAC can go back to zero once diet & lifestyle are improved
@@joeyhomewood I recommend Dr Ovadia's videos for a deeper understanding of CAC and further tests that can be done if you don't have a zero score. He recommends his patients with nonzero CAC scores to repeat the CAC annually. The most important factor in predicting risk of worsening disease is if CAC increases in those annual tests. He also recommends CT angiography for those with nonzero CAC scores to check for soft plaque and narrowing of blood vessels. Anticoagulatory medicines along with D3/K2 are also recommended
I really wanted the keto diet to work for me. After a year on a keto diet my A1c dropped slightly from 5.7 to 5.5. After another year my A1c went up to 5.8 so I decided to stop keto. Three months on a plant heavy diet with some chicken and fish but no red meat or dairy, my A1c dropped to 5.2, the lowest it’s ever been. My TC and LDL also dropped significantly after stopping keto. I think I’m a lean mass hyper responder.
That's great that you found a diet that works well for you! Sometimes we need to keep experimenting until we find the approach that helps us feel our best and improves our health.
I were 12months in keto when i got mild heart attack. But in my case i had undiagnosed hypothyrodism at least five years before that. For the symptoms of hypothyrodism i can say that for sure. If you got hypothyrodism it will raise your ldl sky high. My total cholesterol were 38mmol/L (1469.45 mg/dL) and it´s considered bad if it is over 5mmol/L (193.35 mg/dL). All the doctors and nurses in the heart hostial had never seen or even heard so high numbers (i propably made Finnish record for that). So i was putted in to statins and i only ate those 11 weeks and i had to cut those down becouse killer muscle pains. After three months eating Thyroxin for my hypothyrodism lowered my cholesterol to 5,1mmol/L (197.22 mg/dL). So that was big impact for the numbers. Also the doctors in the hospital told that it will take years of tme on bad diet to get heart diseases. So eating lots of carbs 42 years had done the damage. I propably would have worse situation without those 12 months on keto. Even that they gived me the general advices of nutrition, i stayed on keto. Low fat and more of a polysaturated fats are not coming back to my diet ever.
Your post is very similar to mine (see above). I also have low Thyroid. I'm not taking Statins but have been told I have Coronary Artery Disease... Been following Low carb for about a year, fasting for 2 years on and off. Everyone that knows about my diet is focusing on that and Drs are focusing on my LDL . However I know that LCHF can raise LDL and also low thyroid can make LDL high... Hope your recovery is going well.
@@SimonneBerriman Yes it deffenetly raises LDL alot. Mine was 1133.02 mg/dL (29,3mmol/L) when they took me to hospital as i had mild heart attack. Also there has been study that statins ans hypothyrodism has insanely raise of mortality rate and you should never eat statins if you have thyroid problems. So basicly every human cell needs choleterol and protein. And your body tries to fix the disease you have. But if you take statins, statins will reduce cholesterol that your liver is making. When the liver is enabled to make cholesterol it makes small LDLs and the small LDLs and oxodized LDLs are damged and blocks your blood vessels so it realy is deadly option. Even if you don´t have thyroid problems statins should not be given to any human being.
I finally belong to a minority and it turns out to the the skyrocketing LDL minority,. I always have to chuckle when someone says "have your Dr. watch this video" because I couldn't even get my Dr. to look a the NMR lipid profile I ordered on myself. He told me I probably knew more about it than he did but, even if that's true, I don't know enough..
You are not part of a minority but the Keto narrative has almost turned into a religion these days so it is supposed to only do winder, but the reality is much different.
I’m noticing just about everyone doing well on keto seems to have significant Northern European origins. Could having earlier family needing to live off meat and fish in a frozen wilderness structure the DNA to be keto leaning? Many Mediterranean folks on the other hand, live long lives on a high carb diet! As much as I envy them, it seems I must follow the diet of northern tribes or risk metabolic breakdown!
My ancestors are from the Mediterranean, Native people from the Caribbean and West Africans. The diet was generally high in carbs but there has been an explosion of obesity and diabetes among the inhabitants of the Caribbean island I come from in the last 50 years even though the diet has remained more or less the same. The big difference has been a transition from a predominantly rural economy with hard physical labor to a largely sedentary urban economy. My ancestors could eat a lot of carbs because they were working physically hard many hours of the day, plus they were just eating 2 meals a day because there were not many resources to afford to eat more. This just shows that carbs need to be earned with hard physical work and if you can't do a lot of hard physical work you need to control your carbs. I like how Prof Layman explains this concept. The other problem is the increase of easily absorbable fructose in our diets (through sugar, sugary drinks and fruit juices) that taxes the liver significantly more than glucose alone
@@nataliajimenez1870 I really appreciate this account of your ancestors. Physical work and total calories must be critical factors as well. Still, I’m interested in how Greeks for example can eat large quantities of bread, rice and other grains and live well into their 90’s with a fairly relaxed lifestyle.
That's a very good point, and it's why it's difficult for people living in industrialized societies to use more rural, outdoors-based societies as examples of how to eat. When the rest of one's lifestyle is completely different, we can't assume we process similar foods in a similar manner. Thanks!
I been on Keto for close to 9 months. My A1C improved but being with low BMI, my LDL shot through the roof and sits at 160!! I was using MCT oil in coffee and as salad dressing and eating chicken with skin and pig's feet. I will have to stop using MCT oil in salad (daily) and give up the chicken skin and pig's feet?
We suggest you look into discussions about LMHR and LDL vs metabolic health, and use that information to have a more detailed discussion with your provider about risks and benefits. Here are a couple videos you can start with. ruclips.net/video/jybPe48bGtY/видео.html. and ruclips.net/video/cXwpYDWS0RE/видео.html
I had a heart attack last week. Ive been following a low carb diet, I had CAC score of 0% 6 months ago. Im 47 F. So confused about everything now and all support services offer advise that I do not trust.
When i got guidelines from the heart hospital about the diet i should be following, i just had to laugh. I was thinking are they trying to kill me... I didn´t had t2d or insuline resistance and i didn´t consume seed oils or processed fats that creates inflammatory so there isn´t risk to get cloths in your vessels from saturated fat. My problems solved mostly after i got medication for hypothyrodism. That lowered my cholestrol more than i imagined. But i had this thyroid problem at least 5,5 years and it made huge damages into my health. I have recoverd from those very quickly.
@@ArchieArpeggio Yes I had similar experience. How was your low thyroid impacting you? I have been having issues with my iron levels but thankfully taking Liver and spleen capsules have really helped. I wonder if the thyroid issue has raised my stress levels (hard to know in this day and age).
@@SimonneBerriman In many ways. I couldn´t breathe trough my nose properly and it caused me sleep apnea, my voice changed and sounded weird, i was cold all the time nad didn´t swet, hair loss, constantly tired, dry skin (even that most of my skin problems got better with keto), weight gain (before keto). After the mild heart attack i got medicines that thinners my blood and those caused iron defeciency so i took iron for a while and numbers got better. But the iron suplement causes me dhiarrea so i stopped eating it.
I like a steak or a bowl of ground beef with one of those steamed bags of broccoli you can just put in the microwave. If I’m feeling fancy, I’ll make deviled eggs, mixing the yolk with apple cider vinegar, spicy mustard, quac, and avocado oil mayo.
I have been keto/carnivore for fifteen months. Five years ago I had a CAC score done. My CAC score came out to zero. I just recently had another one done. Again my CAC score came out to zero. My HDL to triglyceride ratio is currently 0.8. Although there may be other factors to look at, this clearly indicates to me that I am on the right track. Also down to my high school weight at close to 64 years old. Bonus!
Thats fantastic! Thanks for sharing your journey.
Thanks for doing the heavy lifting. In this age of misinformation, your analysis of the research and educational videos are such a valuable "public health" initiative. I invite all viewers to subscribe to this channel.
Thank you! We appreciate your help in allowing more people to learn from our content.
With diabetes being the number one risk factor for heart disease, it only makes sense that a low carb/sugar diet would reduce the risk of heart disease.
Exactly👍
We agree!
I’m glad I stumbled on your channel! I have come to realize that we must look at the brain as both separate and distinctly intertwined with body. I love that this podcast is helping to dismantle old thought patterns and create new insights into this mind body connection. I am going to scroll your content for first where to begin! Thanks
Thank you for your comment. We hope our content is helpful!
Something that went into a lot of peoples arms, caused LOTS of heart issues, personal opinion!
The evidence is being collated
Dr. Atkins said, decades ago, the best indicator of heart disease risk is HDL to triglyceride ratio. Is that right? If so, seems like clean keto is the best - b/c HDL goes up, triglycerides go down. Like clockwork. Eat lots of fatty fish for the HDL; cut out sugar and drastically reduce carbs so triglycerides go down. Easy peasy.
TG:HDL ratio is a very good predictor of cardiac risk. However, I think it is challenging to say one marker is "the best." I think it is best to use a number of markers to get a sense of the overall picture, but there is no question that TG:HDL is a very powerful marker.
@@metabolicmind what kind of ratio should we be looking for?
For optimal metabolic health, Tg:HDL ratio of less than 1.5 seems like a good target for most people. But like any test, it should be taken into context of other metabolic health markers. We have a few videos about labs to check that may be helpful. ruclips.net/video/tSkOw3l8OoQ/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/W-lmYCqjtmg/видео.html
I was referred to a cardiologist when I wentbin to see why I had some pain and shortness of breath. Covid hit before I could get all the scheduling done. Started keto a month later, lost weight and pain and shortness of breath. Been ketovore for 4 years and have had no return of symptoms.
Interesting that this video just comes out today. Yesterday I went to my doctor in Japan for a checkup, and talked about being on ketovore for the last 4 months. He was quite impressed that my joint and lower-back pain had gone, and my chronic sinus irritation has almost disappeared. But he warned me that this diet would damaged my heart and liver due to too much protein. I don't have any studies in Japanese to dispute this and his English isn't very good, so it was hard to push back, and I didn't see any point in stirring up a confrontation. So I just said I'd consider it.
Now with Google Translate it's easier to translate academic papers. The grammar in the translated paper may not be excellent, but the drier content of academic papers generally makes translations easier than works of fiction in which sayings can be lost in translation
@@nataliajimenez1870 Thanks, I'll give that a try next time I see him.
Thanks for all you do Bret!! 👏🏼
Thank you Dr. Scher for your concise information. You are so easy to listen to and understand.
Thank you, Dr Scher.
The keto ldl cholesterol hyper response tends to happen to those with a bmi less than 25 (lean mass hyper responders). Obesity is defined as a bmi over 30 , so ldl won't increase for those who need to do keto , but may be concerned about cholesterol.My ldl is about 300 , as an lmhr /bmi 23 , but my cac score is zero at 51 years of age ,(zero plaque in my coronary arteries).
Did you ever have habitual unhealthy diet / lifestyle choices? Like eating highly processed foods, drinking alcohol, smoking, being inactive, etc. I’m curious if the CAC can go back to zero once diet & lifestyle are improved
@@joeyhomewood I recommend Dr Ovadia's videos for a deeper understanding of CAC and further tests that can be done if you don't have a zero score. He recommends his patients with nonzero CAC scores to repeat the CAC annually. The most important factor in predicting risk of worsening disease is if CAC increases in those annual tests. He also recommends CT angiography for those with nonzero CAC scores to check for soft plaque and narrowing of blood vessels. Anticoagulatory medicines along with D3/K2 are also recommended
@@joeyhomewood Search Dr. Ford Brewer reverse plaque.
I really wanted the keto diet to work for me. After a year on a keto diet my A1c dropped slightly from 5.7 to 5.5. After another year my A1c went up to 5.8 so I decided to stop keto. Three months on a plant heavy diet with some chicken and fish but no red meat or dairy, my A1c dropped to 5.2, the lowest it’s ever been. My TC and LDL also dropped significantly after stopping keto. I think I’m a lean mass hyper responder.
That's great that you found a diet that works well for you! Sometimes we need to keep experimenting until we find the approach that helps us feel our best and improves our health.
It was an important point that you've addressed in this video.
Thank you!
I do get tired of being told to stop hflc without medical folk even bothering to ask why I do it...Except gastroenterology,who get it.
I were 12months in keto when i got mild heart attack. But in my case i had undiagnosed hypothyrodism at least five years before that. For the symptoms of hypothyrodism i can say that for sure. If you got hypothyrodism it will raise your ldl sky high. My total cholesterol were 38mmol/L (1469.45 mg/dL) and it´s considered bad if it is over 5mmol/L (193.35 mg/dL). All the doctors and nurses in the heart hostial had never seen or even heard so high numbers (i propably made Finnish record for that). So i was putted in to statins and i only ate those 11 weeks and i had to cut those down becouse killer muscle pains. After three months eating Thyroxin for my hypothyrodism lowered my cholesterol to 5,1mmol/L (197.22 mg/dL). So that was big impact for the numbers.
Also the doctors in the hospital told that it will take years of tme on bad diet to get heart diseases. So eating lots of carbs 42 years had done the damage. I propably would have worse situation without those 12 months on keto. Even that they gived me the general advices of nutrition, i stayed on keto. Low fat and more of a polysaturated fats are not coming back to my diet ever.
Your post is very similar to mine (see above). I also have low Thyroid. I'm not taking Statins but have been told I have Coronary Artery Disease... Been following Low carb for about a year, fasting for 2 years on and off. Everyone that knows about my diet is focusing on that and Drs are focusing on my LDL . However I know that LCHF can raise LDL and also low thyroid can make LDL high... Hope your recovery is going well.
@@SimonneBerriman Yes it deffenetly raises LDL alot. Mine was 1133.02 mg/dL (29,3mmol/L) when they took me to hospital as i had mild heart attack.
Also there has been study that statins ans hypothyrodism has insanely raise of mortality rate and you should never eat statins if you have thyroid problems.
So basicly every human cell needs choleterol and protein. And your body tries to fix the disease you have. But if you take statins, statins will reduce cholesterol that your liver is making. When the liver is enabled to make cholesterol it makes small LDLs and the small LDLs and oxodized LDLs are damged and blocks your blood vessels so it realy is deadly option.
Even if you don´t have thyroid problems statins should not be given to any human being.
Such things simply have to repeat 100k times just to make people understand. It’s what a mindless world.
Please have a research on GKI of less than 2 in reversing atherosclerosis
I finally belong to a minority and it turns out to the the skyrocketing LDL minority,. I always have to chuckle when someone says "have your Dr. watch this video" because I couldn't even get my Dr. to look a the NMR lipid profile I ordered on myself. He told me I probably knew more about it than he did but, even if that's true, I don't know enough..
You are not part of a minority but the Keto narrative has almost turned into a religion these days so it is supposed to only do winder, but the reality is much different.
I’m noticing just about everyone doing well on keto seems to have significant Northern European origins. Could having earlier family needing to live off meat and fish in a frozen wilderness structure the DNA to be keto leaning? Many Mediterranean folks on the other hand, live long lives on a high carb diet! As much as I envy them, it seems I must follow the diet of northern tribes or risk metabolic breakdown!
My ancestors are from the Mediterranean, Native people from the Caribbean and West Africans. The diet was generally high in carbs but there has been an explosion of obesity and diabetes among the inhabitants of the Caribbean island I come from in the last 50 years even though the diet has remained more or less the same. The big difference has been a transition from a predominantly rural economy with hard physical labor to a largely sedentary urban economy. My ancestors could eat a lot of carbs because they were working physically hard many hours of the day, plus they were just eating 2 meals a day because there were not many resources to afford to eat more. This just shows that carbs need to be earned with hard physical work and if you can't do a lot of hard physical work you need to control your carbs. I like how Prof Layman explains this concept. The other problem is the increase of easily absorbable fructose in our diets (through sugar, sugary drinks and fruit juices) that taxes the liver significantly more than glucose alone
@@nataliajimenez1870 I really appreciate this account of your ancestors. Physical work and total calories must be critical factors as well. Still, I’m interested in how Greeks for example can eat large quantities of bread, rice and other grains and live well into their 90’s with a fairly relaxed lifestyle.
That's a very good point, and it's why it's difficult for people living in industrialized societies to use more rural, outdoors-based societies as examples of how to eat. When the rest of one's lifestyle is completely different, we can't assume we process similar foods in a similar manner. Thanks!
I been on Keto for close to 9 months. My A1C improved but being with low BMI, my LDL shot through the roof and sits at 160!! I was using MCT oil in coffee and as salad dressing and eating chicken with skin and pig's feet. I will have to stop using MCT oil in salad (daily) and give up the chicken skin and pig's feet?
We suggest you look into discussions about LMHR and LDL vs metabolic health, and use that information to have a more detailed discussion with your provider about risks and benefits. Here are a couple videos you can start with. ruclips.net/video/jybPe48bGtY/видео.html. and ruclips.net/video/cXwpYDWS0RE/видео.html
Deeply held beliefs and poor evidence are the biggest cardiac risks
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No. The End.
The deception in dietary recommendations is dark and deep...SDA cultists to blame
I had a heart attack last week. Ive been following a low carb diet, I had CAC score of 0% 6 months ago. Im 47 F. So confused about everything now and all support services offer advise that I do not trust.
When i got guidelines from the heart hospital about the diet i should be following, i just had to laugh. I was thinking are they trying to kill me...
I didn´t had t2d or insuline resistance and i didn´t consume seed oils or processed fats that creates inflammatory so there isn´t risk to get cloths in your vessels from saturated fat.
My problems solved mostly after i got medication for hypothyrodism. That lowered my cholestrol more than i imagined. But i had this thyroid problem at least 5,5 years and it made huge damages into my health. I have recoverd from those very quickly.
@@ArchieArpeggio Yes I had similar experience. How was your low thyroid impacting you? I have been having issues with my iron levels but thankfully taking Liver and spleen capsules have really helped. I wonder if the thyroid issue has raised my stress levels (hard to know in this day and age).
@@SimonneBerriman In many ways. I couldn´t breathe trough my nose properly and it caused me sleep apnea, my voice changed and sounded weird, i was cold all the time nad didn´t swet, hair loss, constantly tired, dry skin (even that most of my skin problems got better with keto), weight gain (before keto).
After the mild heart attack i got medicines that thinners my blood and those caused iron defeciency so i took iron for a while and numbers got better. But the iron suplement causes me dhiarrea so i stopped eating it.
can Someone post a easy keto meal. I am a bad cook. But I can do some things please??
Cheeseburger without the bun, fries and soda.
Scrambled eggs with cheese and avocado. Grilled steak with steamed cauliflower, salt and butter. And many many more!
baked salmon with olive oil, roasted broccoli
I like a steak or a bowl of ground beef with one of those steamed bags of broccoli you can just put in the microwave. If I’m feeling fancy, I’ll make deviled eggs, mixing the yolk with apple cider vinegar, spicy mustard, quac, and avocado oil mayo.
@@LauraB.335 thanks
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