I think this is an great video. You walking thru with her, not talking away but helping her think thru things is a great video to watch and learn from. My hats off to you and will checkout more of your videos!!
Thanks AB ... returning rider ( after 30 years ) and what I got out of this was 'no rush, no rush' as I'll admit I've felt under pressure to keep up speed and that's been wrecking my ride ! Many thanks :-)
Hi Kit, have ridden Triumphs for many years, have had a couple of years break and now back on a T100 and setting my sights on passing the AIM level. I am a slow rider, always have been, prefer to enjoy the feel of the bike and surroundings and just relax. Much better to settle on a speed that your inner self thinks is best, let the others race by. Now aged 70 but fully fit, have had my eyesight checked to ensure I have good vision way ahead. That plus no racing around will help towards maintaining safety for myself and others. I had a snail race past me the other day ... ha ha ha. Liam
Thought that was a super ride. Even more so for a novice. I certainly thought she showed confidence and ability. Maybe she is comparing herself to the death or glory merchants. I think she should be proud of that display. Well done! :-)
One does not have to go round every bend at the fastest possible speed that traffic, weather and visibility allows. A bit slower is sensible, as their might be diesel on the road, or a rabbit might run out. I am not slow, but I am not trying to go as fast as I can, one never knows when one might find a ladder in the road. ....
i thought she did very well, watching her, I've never been on a motorcycle before but can tell she's doing well with the way she slows down in plenty time and leans with just the right amount of weight without tipping the bike over. she should be proud of herself :-)
??? The title is a joke!??? She rides like an effing queen; perfect lines. You don't see such many times on YT, not even at Advanced riding. A joy to watch 😁
Mindful of age of this vid..however nice forward planning & decent riding..especially considering then rider was then a relatively new rider. Better lines & better pace than some I have seen at an advanced level. Decent solid ride.
What a great ride. Consistently making progress and planning for driveways, small junctions and other "secondary" hazards. I think I saw one "unplanned" brake application but even that was done to bring the bike down to legal speeds rather than a lack of control (we all get giddy every now and then). I think one thing that helps me to refresh my riding is to do a running commentary on a ride so the instructor's commentary is in keeping with that sort of exercise and encourages good practice.
telling a new rider to focus on telephone poles, or anything else not on the road, is probably bad. target fixation happens very easily when people begin riding and telling someone to stare somewhere other than ahead is not a good tip. otherwise good stuff
We had already been out one hour and she only looked at the bend she was about go. Then she relaxed, so with the introduction of forward planning, her confidence increased resulting the improvement seen.
This might sound out of context but as a rural bike rider in Somerset one thing that you have to look out for here is farmers leaving mud on the road either from their tractors leaving muddy fields or cows dropping slurry. Not sure what the law says about leaving the road in a dangerous state.
Hi Peter, I live in a small rural village in Lincolnshire and understand what you mean. Right now its tons of mud from tractors taking beet off very muddy fields, so reading the road conditions ahead is a must. Not many cows up here, but I hail from Ireland and ride there! Liam
Have you ever closeky followed a cattle or sheep truck. Just don't, keep back and overtake wide as soon as possible. Anyone wondering why not will soon realise it's a baaaaddd idea!😮
Was thinking of a few advanced lessons, passed my test 4 months ago and haven't ridden since as I bought a project cafe racer. She'll be ready soon and I just feel really rusty. I felt tense and tight in a few corners on lessons. Guess it wouldn't hurt right?
She is good! She just has to stop talking herself out of the confidence! Oh and kudo's to you sir aswell for that very professional overseeing and shot calling. Well done! Now tell the truth, you know that road well don't you?? Because a couple of corners couldn't be seen and you called em as if you live on it. (personal observation) See you down the road!
Should I be worried? I'm getting close to dragging knee with just MSF, youtube videos, and 200mi on my first bike. After rides I consider slowing the pace but I feel so confident on the bike. This comment is not to brag but to asking if it sounds like I'm getting way ahead of myself.
advancedbiker - a person that doesn't have the ability to step back & consider alternate views & perspectives is a person that refuses to learn, adding salt to the wound with a reply in defence of your actions is worse than an excuse........you're an accident waiting to happen, you should try correction where necessary instead of distracting the rider with the same constant drivel at every turn.
even i could tell they crossed the road but the "use the telegraph poles " was more a case of do they bunch up turn sharp or sweep round indicating the how the bend is laid out are you gonna need to slow more etc i'm a provisional licence holder for bikes i look whats ahead do the road have markings if so is it bunched in the corner indicating a near on 90 degree bend and i can see a corner coming up in the distance my mind is there preparing me for what ifs etc. also up the road if both sides meet indicating a bend if have to could i slow and stop if needed in the visible road i can see at the given speed
@@pedey666 One day a local council may approve the laying of telegraph poles across some field to a new settlement .. then a thousand bikes will end up on that field as well! I prefer to focus on the road horizon. Also, I don't like riding on the "wrong side" of the road for better views ahead as I fear vehicles emerging from the right and only looking to their right. I know its the same for overtaking, so I remain extra vigilant and aware when doing so. I am eternally grateful to the instructor for doing this video, its very helpful, Liam
She rides well, personally I don't get this telegraph pole fascination. At one point the lines crossed the road and were a very poor guide to the road ahead. In forty odd years of accident free riding I don't focus much on overhead lines. I watch the signs, hedgerows and other vehicles.
I've just started doing an IAM motorcycle course with a view to volunteering as a blood biker with my local organisation. During my initial taster ride I was told by my observer to ride in no higher than 3rd gear everywhere because it reduces gear changes and the necessity for braking. This makes my bike (a carb model XJR1300) scream like a tortured banshee. It's painful to hear and makes it drink fuel like it's going out of fashion. Also, there's very little in the way of engine braking so even with huge amounts of forward planning I find myself still using the brakes to slow down. I've tried riding in third gear on my wife's Triumph street twin and it's a lot easier and less painful to do. Is there a different technique for carbed and fuel injected bikes or is it just a case of 'suck it up, buttercup', that's how we do things now?
I've said this before on other videos you don't have to plan if you're not going fast if you choose to ride a motorcycle there are risks everywhere if you don't like the risks don't accept them take the bus drive a car stay at home
You can't make speed and line judgements on a bloody hedgerow and telegraph poles, there's no telling what's around that next bend. All it takes is a broken down vehicle on that bend to fuck up your day. In our location it's always a bloody horse, but it's their road too.
I don't mean any harm, but this guy would have driven me crazy. I guess he's just doing his job. However, I just wanted to yell "shut the Π÷׶ up !!! Beautiful countryside though.
The Jersey J That's because you are a keyboard warrior! If you read the Description, SHE paid HIM (a fully qualified motorcycle instructor) to have a ride plus provide feedback on her form. I have been riding for a number of years however would still appreciate his input periodically to ensure I am constantly improving plus it's all about roadcraft, if you want to keep yourself as safe as possible.
It was noticeable that during the course of this ride, the opportunities to optimise your view into bends and corners and to straighten out bends when safe to do so by utilising the full width of the road when broken white lines are present, 'as advocated by the police force' in their recommended 'Safe riding style' video, were absent ?
In my simple mind, riding on the "wrong side" of the road, except when necessary, invites tears. Police riders will choose the right time, others may not have so much experience. Liam
Work on getting close to apex for newer riders its the most important for turns. Racing lines help a LOT! PLAY A GAME OF GRAN TURISMO on time trial and youll understand what i mean. It helped me. Being able to imagine these lines will make u a better rider!
I know this comment is 5 month old but it is literally his job to be doing this. Constant critique gets them concentrating on the details and gets them planning ahead instead of dealing with things as they come. I've just done my CBT and had the instructor talking to me all the time to make sure I kept my composure.
Just found this RUclipsr … I can’t stand to watch it… the sound is TERRIBLE! Like nails on a chalkboard making it impossible to gain anything from the video.
This is more about riding within your skill level - that way you stay safe. Nicely done.
I think this is an great video. You walking thru with her, not talking away but helping her think thru things is a great video to watch and learn from. My hats off to you and will checkout more of your videos!!
Thanks AB ... returning rider ( after 30 years ) and what I got out of this was 'no rush, no rush' as I'll admit I've felt under pressure to keep up speed and that's been wrecking my ride !
Many thanks :-)
Hi Kit, have ridden Triumphs for many years, have had a couple of years break and now back on a T100 and setting my sights on passing the AIM level. I am a slow rider, always have been, prefer to enjoy the feel of the bike and surroundings and just relax. Much better to settle on a speed that your inner self thinks is best, let the others race by. Now aged 70 but fully fit, have had my eyesight checked to ensure I have good vision way ahead. That plus no racing around will help towards maintaining safety for myself and others. I had a snail race past me the other day ... ha ha ha. Liam
I think she's doing fine. Everyone should stay in their comfort zone.
Ride with 75% of your ability and your 100% line will move further quicker. As lord Keith Code said :)
@@mdeyab very true .. hail Keith Code
Thanks for the video, really good training, I'm just learning myself and I learned a whole lot from that lesson!
Great stuff!
Thanks Michael, If I can help with anymore vids, just ask....
I think she was doing pretty good. Better than most experienced riders I've seen
She is one hundred times better rider, than the guy's doing 150mp and not knowing what's ahead. Keep up good work.
Thought that was a super ride. Even more so for a novice. I certainly thought she showed confidence and ability. Maybe she is comparing herself to the death or glory merchants. I think she should be proud of that display. Well done! :-)
I thought she did well
She's riding really well! Keep it up, you will only get better.
One does not have to go round every bend at the fastest possible speed that traffic, weather and visibility allows.
A bit slower is sensible, as their might be diesel on the road, or a rabbit might run out.
I am not slow, but I am not trying to go as fast as I can, one never knows when one might find a ladder in the road. ....
Always ride within your own personal limits...You'll live longer.....
Yeah, there's nothing as irresponsible as asking a qualified trainer to help you improve at a dangerous task :p
i thought she did very well, watching her, I've never been on a motorcycle before but can tell she's doing well with the way she slows down in plenty time and leans with just the right amount of weight without tipping the bike over. she should be proud of herself :-)
She made it through the first time she thought of getting expert advise.
??? The title is a joke!??? She rides like an effing queen; perfect lines. You don't see such many times on YT, not even at Advanced riding. A joy to watch 😁
Mindful of age of this vid..however nice forward planning & decent riding..especially considering then rider was then a relatively new rider. Better lines & better pace than some I have seen at an advanced level. Decent solid ride.
Nothing wrong with her riding skills whatsoever - says this 75 year old m'cyclist.
"Look at the car, not the bend!" ???!!!
Did I miss something..
What a great ride. Consistently making progress and planning for driveways, small junctions and other "secondary" hazards. I think I saw one "unplanned" brake application but even that was done to bring the bike down to legal speeds rather than a lack of control (we all get giddy every now and then). I think one thing that helps me to refresh my riding is to do a running commentary on a ride so the instructor's commentary is in keeping with that sort of exercise and encourages good practice.
telling a new rider to focus on telephone poles, or anything else not on the road, is probably bad. target fixation happens very easily when people begin riding and telling someone to stare somewhere other than ahead is not a good tip. otherwise good stuff
what bends?
I know it’s an old video but I failed to see her rushing anywhere. She seemed smooth and consistent and not tearing into a corner.
We had already been out one hour and she only looked at the bend she was about go. Then she relaxed, so with the introduction of forward planning, her confidence increased resulting the improvement seen.
This might sound out of context but as a rural bike rider in Somerset one thing that you have to look out for here is farmers leaving mud on the road either from their tractors leaving muddy fields or cows dropping slurry. Not sure what the law says about leaving the road in a dangerous state.
Peter Broadey i expect that law has been removed......look at the state the county councils leave the roads in
Hi Peter, I live in a small rural village in Lincolnshire and understand what you mean. Right now its tons of mud from tractors taking beet off very muddy fields, so reading the road conditions ahead is a must. Not many cows up here, but I hail from Ireland and ride there! Liam
Have you ever closeky followed a cattle or sheep truck.
Just don't, keep back and overtake wide as soon as possible.
Anyone wondering why not will soon realise it's a baaaaddd idea!😮
Watching and thinking this is good. Then I'm thinking looks just like the roads I ride around home. Then I realise it is the roads around home 😆
Was thinking of a few advanced lessons, passed my test 4 months ago and haven't ridden since as I bought a project cafe racer. She'll be ready soon and I just feel really rusty. I felt tense and tight in a few corners on lessons. Guess it wouldn't hurt right?
She is good! She just has to stop talking herself out of the confidence! Oh and kudo's to you sir aswell for that very professional overseeing and shot calling. Well done! Now tell the truth, you know that road well don't you?? Because a couple of corners couldn't be seen and you called em as if you live on it. (personal observation) See you down the road!
I'm just starting out and to me she looks fine....I'm nervous on bends I have to say but I'm sure confidence comes with experience
don't rush! about the best advice you could give to a beginning motorcyclist...
Lacks confidence?? Really, I never noticed that. All I keep hearing is "No rush"..."No rush"....
Should I be worried? I'm getting close to dragging knee with just MSF, youtube videos, and 200mi on my first bike. After rides I consider slowing the pace but I feel so confident on the bike. This comment is not to brag but to asking if it sounds like I'm getting way ahead of myself.
Planning bends on poles is a terrible idea as seen @5:05 where they cross the road...the girl was doing fine without your nonsense
Thank You for the feedback, but the coaching was adapted for her style of learning.....She had no complaints.
advancedbiker - a person that doesn't have the ability to step back & consider alternate views & perspectives is a person that refuses to learn, adding salt to the wound with a reply in defence of your actions is worse than an excuse........you're an accident waiting to happen, you should try correction where necessary instead of distracting the rider with the same constant drivel at every turn.
Thanks Vince - Will take that onboard
even i could tell they crossed the road but the "use the telegraph poles " was more a case of do they bunch up turn sharp or sweep round indicating the how the bend is laid out are you gonna need to slow more etc i'm a provisional licence holder for bikes i look whats ahead do the road have markings if so is it bunched in the corner indicating a near on 90 degree bend and i can see a corner coming up in the distance my mind is there preparing me for what ifs etc. also up the road if both sides meet indicating a bend if have to could i slow and stop if needed in the visible road i can see at the given speed
@@pedey666 One day a local council may approve the laying of telegraph poles across some field to a new settlement .. then a thousand bikes will end up on that field as well! I prefer to focus on the road horizon. Also, I don't like riding on the "wrong side" of the road for better views ahead as I fear vehicles emerging from the right and only looking to their right. I know its the same for overtaking, so I remain extra vigilant and aware when doing so. I am eternally grateful to the instructor for doing this video, its very helpful, Liam
7 seconds in it says 'Rider lacks confidence in bends ?' Who are you asking ?
She rides well, personally I don't get this telegraph pole fascination. At one point the lines crossed the road and were a very poor guide to the road ahead. In forty odd years of accident free riding I don't focus much on overhead lines. I watch the signs, hedgerows and other vehicles.
Awesome job jill keep rubber side up.
I've just started doing an IAM motorcycle course with a view to volunteering as a blood biker with my local organisation.
During my initial taster ride I was told by my observer to ride in no higher than 3rd gear everywhere because it reduces gear changes and the necessity for braking. This makes my bike (a carb model XJR1300) scream like a tortured banshee. It's painful to hear and makes it drink fuel like it's going out of fashion. Also, there's very little in the way of engine braking so even with huge amounts of forward planning I find myself still using the brakes to slow down. I've tried riding in third gear on my wife's Triumph street twin and it's a lot easier and less painful to do. Is there a different technique for carbed and fuel injected bikes or is it just a case of 'suck it up, buttercup', that's how we do things now?
That is very strange advice. It is not how the 'system' works.....
Can you email me. bowers.118@ntlworld.com
I've said this before on other videos you don't have to plan if you're not going fast if you choose to ride a motorcycle there are risks everywhere if you don't like the risks don't accept them take the bus drive a car stay at home
You can't make speed and line judgements on a bloody hedgerow and telegraph poles, there's no telling what's around that next bend. All it takes is a broken down vehicle on that bend to fuck up your day. In our location it's always a bloody horse, but it's their road too.
why would be surprised when given instruction that she would do good...
"60mph is not a target"... nope! Its a marker for short shifting in 1st.
don't rush..how do you expect her to get her knee down..
I don't mean any harm, but this guy would have driven me crazy. I guess he's just doing his job. However, I just wanted to yell "shut the Π÷׶ up !!! Beautiful countryside though.
The Jersey J lol. They use one way radio for a reason
The Jersey J
That's because you are a keyboard warrior! If you read the Description, SHE paid HIM (a fully qualified motorcycle instructor) to have a ride plus provide feedback on her form. I have been riding for a number of years however would still appreciate his input periodically to ensure I am constantly improving plus it's all about roadcraft, if you want to keep yourself as safe as possible.
@@Knightlore10 one way radio? She spoke back
An over emphasis on the telegraph poles - they should be used but not trusted to always follow the road, good forward planning though.
At start there is comment prepare for the right a foot further and would have been into on coming car 😳
Keep your eyes on the road not the bloody poles.
Do you get paid for stating the obvious ? Bend in road, traffic up ahead etc etc etc . And if you do im in the wrong job lol.
Depends how soon you see it...
with more poles coming into the country its a bad idea to fixate on them
It was noticeable that during the course of this ride, the opportunities to optimise your view into bends and corners and to straighten out bends when safe to do so by utilising the full width of the road when broken white lines are present, 'as advocated by the police force' in their recommended 'Safe riding style' video, were absent ?
In my simple mind, riding on the "wrong side" of the road, except when necessary, invites tears. Police riders will choose the right time, others may not have so much experience. Liam
British roads suck with all the damn bushes or walls everywhere. God forbid one could see how the road continues or how sharp a bend really is...
Worst part is that you both drive in the wrong lane
No I thought she did ok
Work on getting close to apex for newer riders its the most important for turns. Racing lines help a LOT! PLAY A GAME OF GRAN TURISMO on time trial and youll understand what i mean. It helped me. Being able to imagine these lines will make u a better rider!
I see nothing wrong. After all, they are not on a racetrack.
i think if he shut up for a second she would have been perfect!
I know this comment is 5 month old but it is literally his job to be doing this. Constant critique gets them concentrating on the details and gets them planning ahead instead of dealing with things as they come. I've just done my CBT and had the instructor talking to me all the time to make sure I kept my composure.
ride it like you stole it :)
Just found this RUclipsr … I can’t stand to watch it… the sound is TERRIBLE! Like nails on a chalkboard making it impossible to gain anything from the video.
Thanks for the video, really good training, I'm just learning myself and I learned a whole lot from that lesson!
Great stuff!