I’m from the Canary Islands and I’m studying History at the University of Las Palmas, and I disagree with that theory that says they stablished in the mountains in the first time, cuz they came from the sea. The first thing they saw once they came here were the coasts, they had to make their first camps there. Archaeologists have found that almost every of them had a pathology related to the sea: surfer ear or exostosis, so they had to expend a lot of time near the water. Yeah, the marine activities are important, like fishing, but from most of the islands you can see other islands, so you’re telling me they never thought of reproducing something similar to the boats that brought them here? And not only that, the chronicles of the conquest do speak about boats they made with the woods of drago tree. And for more proves, there are obsidian tools in the island of La Gomera, a placed where there’s no deposits of this material, just in the island next to it, Tenerife. How did this tools came to the island? Swimming? Genetic tests and Epigraphy are showing that canary indigenous were related to the amazigh people from Tunisia and places surrounded, the area of Cartago, where people did know about navigations. Even accepting they didn’t know how to navigate, it is imposible to belief that in more than 1500 years they never thought of building something to navigate the coast of the islands or even to travel to the islands they were seeing from their coasts. Our islands are destroyed by the production system our politicians have implanted for years here. The coasts are drown in concrete because of the hotels and touristic points. It is not wild to think that most of the deposits were destroyed in the construction of the hotels, or that there are even under them. There’s a lot of archaeological information we are not studying and we are making a very narrow speech.
Hey I'm Algerian north African berber and YES my ancestors were civilized and went to canary islands by sea by boats they knew how to navigate thanks to pheanicians and had writing system called tiffinagh brought by pheanincians too build homes, had civilized agriculture and farming thanks to Mesopotamian civilizations and studied architecture and astronomy.
I’m guessing our boats were mostly made for island hopping, and not made from wood, but reeds. Something that didn’t preserve well, but we didn’t need it to, perhaps. I read somewhere that the locals at one time long ago claimed that the islands were once connected but the sea swallowed all but the tips of the mountain ranges
@@malikaabizar8318 Hi Malika, the Phonecians did not give the Berber script is dated to at least 7,000 years old, making it the oldest language. Actually, Maghrebis are responsible for the Natufian culture in levant. Berbers and Somalis were known as expert sailors. Thanks.
I agree totally. On Fuerteventura the places where the people lived go right down to the sea. Yes in caves in the hills, but the sea was special and gave plenty food. And sure as hell they had boats for fishing. And went to the other island's.
Well I am Algerian North African Berber guanche amazigh And I speak amazigh french and English I would like to give my body to scientists lol 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 joking
@@chinchanchou The Amazighs were believing in Berber methodology Like : worshipping god of water "ANZAR" god of war "GURZIL" god of nature and high mountains "ATLAS" god of moon "TIZIRI"...etc.and a lot were non religious or atheists. After the Roman empire ruled north Africa some of them converted to Christianity. After the Islamic conquest they converted to Islam but there still minorities in Kabylia who are still christians till today.
In some islands like mine women were allowed to get married with three men at the same time. During one month one acted like the husband and the two others like servants. It was a way to control overpopulation on the islands with litle resources.
I don't think saying "mysterious" is an appropriate, because everybody knows there are mummies and everybody knows there were people... before the Spanish killed them to inhabit the island. I mean, it's no surprise to anyone, is it?
This is what’s so crazy about this. Did the Spanish not learn anything about these people, their customs, writings or language before exterminating them? It’s not like they came to find a few people, but two kingdoms!
They weren't exterminatex by the spanish, even 100 years after the conquest 2/3 of the canary populatioj was still native guanche, they just kixed with spanish settlers forming new race
I'm sure the Spanish enslaved the survivors of the initial slaughter and then worked these folks to death. That was their usual pattern. I'm just going by what the did in the Americas.
I think the calendars are where the shadows fell inside a particular cave wall each day. The model may have been placed in several places but one of them was where the shadows fell each day. No clue why I think that, except that I’m part Canarian. Someone should look and see if the shadows still fall on one of them
@@crayzmarc well many Spanish (after helping wipe out Berber) took their writing system, Cubans helped wipe out. I think Dominicans speak a dialect from Canary.
@@incogb6696 technically they are a mixture of Xanthochroi (White European) and Melanochroi (Mediterranean). thyea re CAUCASIANS, says GENETIC.thye are not negroids (negroid race), attention there is no such thing african race. cause there are caucasiasn (whites living in africa too) caucasias came from caucaso, spredinf by erurope celtic tribes,, the caucasiasn came from iran millions years bringing civilization.
As a descendant of the first family to ever be colonized by Spain, in the history of the world, please shed more light on Tyteroygatra (Lanzarote)... We're starting to see the island + people overlooked or outright lied about.
Regarding genetic affinities, studies have indicated that the Guanches had genetic links to various populations. There is evidence of genetic similarities between the Guanches and the Berbers (Amazigh) of North Africa, which is not surprising considering the geographical proximity between the Canary Islands and North Africa. The Canary Islands were likely part of the broader network of interaction and migration in the region.
As I was kid growing up in south of Morocco, I used to hear stories from my berber grandma telling us that was a time when people flee to escape wars and death and they usually run to hide in the mountains or try to cross the ocean, I personally believe that Guanches found a way to escape to canaries and decided to stay there and build a life until the spanish came and killed them all 😖
The conquest of the Canary Islands was from 1402 to 1496, at least 100 years. It cost Spain more time than the conquest of America and many more deaths of Spanish soldiers. No wonder... The ancient Canarians came from ancient African warriors and adventurers and many were a mixture of ancient Vikings. They were tall, strong, extraordinarily agile and had an aim that never ceased to amaze the Spanish conquerors. The Guanches respected their women, worshipped the sun, the earth and knew the stars and their movements, which allowed them to establish eclipses and calendars. A peaceful culture but with great warriors who never surrendered, a magical civilization that deserves to be known and respected.
@@incogb6696 The Vikings originated from the area that became modern-day Denmark, Sweden, and Norway. They settled in England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Iceland, Greenland, North America, and parts of the European mainland, among other places.
0:17 Gran Canaria is where this culture found its greatest development because the aborigines of this island always had more influence from abroad than on the other islands. Not because in Gran Canaria they were more intelligent than the others... on the other hand, the best and most representative mummies are those of the island of Tenerife, which is why this documentary should have been shot there. En Gran Canaria es donde esta cultura encontró su mayor desarrollo porque los aborígenes de esta isla tuvieron siempre mas influencia del exterior que en las demás islas. No porque en Gran Canaria fueran mas inteligentes que los demás... por otro lado las mejores momias y las mas representativas son las de la isla de Tenerife, por lo que este documental deberia haberse rodado allí.
@@stefanschleps8758 You are very ignorant, inform yourself beforehand. Gran Canaria was populated in successive waves over the centuries that updated the aboriginal culture. Tenerife had very few waves arriving on the island.
I know a little of the dogs that the conquistadors used on the canary islands. 'The Presa Canario is a Spanish breed of large dog of mastiff or catch dog type. It originates in the autonomous region of the Canary Islands, and is found mostly in the islands of Gran Canaria and Tenerife.' In colonial times dogs were often used against native people that did not have have modern weapons.
@@LUDOVIKO8413 You stated 'and the English bulldog is originally from the Castilian chato, dog of prey and guard of the Spanish Castilian plateau" This is a contentious topic. Many state that a barbarian tribe of Persian ethnicity called the alans, or alanos, alães or alaunts, entered the Roman empire. There were part of the barbarian immigration to the later Roman empire. Many of these peoples from the east likely had large guard and war dogs as still exist to this day in the mountains of those regions. The Alans at one time had a kingdom in Spain and were also influential in what is now france. The Alans are gone, but dogs still bearing that name are found in France and Iberia. The Normans conquered England in 1066 and imported many things from Normandy and these are said to include the Alaunt Dogs. But there was a lot trade between all of these countries and no one can say with proof exactly where the Bulldogs of England came from. What remains today of the English bulldog is a deformed pet quality animal with inherent physical deformities.
@@LUDOVIKO8413 The english used at one time the disease of small pox it is said. Mostly they used other indian tribes like the Cherokee to fight other indians. The Americans did a lot of killing, but not so with much dogs. Guns and swords were more common implements of death.
lo squat. They are not "native people" we are all from Africa. They are not any more native than you or me. Even "aboriginal" is a meaningless term. We are animals, descended from other animals, descended from single-celled life. If natives owned the land because they took it from the previous life forms, then we are the natives when we take it from them.
this Civilisation is named amazigh and still live in Morocco and that kind of bank was for storing food and goods and was named agoudar that's why a city in morocco is named Agadir
Isn´t there a location called Arguin somewhere in Morroco? On Gran Canaria we have Arguineguin and I always felt it might translate as New Arguin or some such.
@@antonhosinsky3090 arguin is a word splited from ARGAN tree in Amazigh language as i told just before spanish invasion of south morocco and canaries "acnaries" meaning another kind of fruits tree prickly pears
@@ceciliomartingarcia1902 Como Canario debes saber que Marruecos y España todavía están en guerra por esas islas. Yo mismo soy holandés y los holandeses hemos devuelto todas nuestras antiguas colonias a los habitantes originales. Eso es lo que quiero decir. Felices Reyes para ti también.
"We know they were no seafarers because the conquistadores said so" - we HAVE taken into account the conquistadores might have been trying to portrait them as wild savages without any skills or culture, do we?
Do you think a studied historian or archaeologist wouldn't think of this option themselves? If they chose this interpretation, they probably have arguments to support it which just aren't shown in the video. People for examole always differ in their perception and opinions. That's no different with all the different writers from that era. The assumption that colonizers always looked at the people they colonized as "wild savages without any skills or culture" is superficial and stereotypical.
@@PtolemaicTaweret I definitely hope it went like that, but "we know because X said so" does not really reflect that, does it? Propably the longer reasoning got lost in the cutting process, who knows.
My ancestors crossed to canary islands because of the Romans Italy now because of their persecution. And no that had a culture and a CIVILISATION. FROM AM ALGERIAN MEDITERRANEAN NORTH AFRICAN AMAZIGH Not Berber it is amazigh Berber it was Greeks and Romans that gave us this name because they could not understand what we were talking like it was gibberish, to me it a beautiful amazigh language we we're trading with them with wheat via Mediterranean Sea for example couscous is our traditional dish amazigh north African Berber dish
@@VaxtorT : No, north Africa was brown, as was the southern half of Italy, Greece, the Levant, and Egypt. White skin was from different areas that wrapped around that area, from east to north.
@@absalomdraconis They were brown, a mainly west asian peoples, they have most connection with the turkic peoples who live in Syria, Iran, and Iraq. Almost 35% of their genome clusters there. the 2nd largest is the iberomorrocan genome being 30%, these are the prehistoric natives of north africa who lived in that region for 20,000 years. There was probably a massive migration wave from west asia into north africa that lasted for millenials creating a genetic stock unique only to the region. the 3rd largest group seperates depending on the geographical bisection created by the atlas, ahagar, and tibesti mountain ranges aswell as the massive saharan desert. those south of these geographical barriers have 25% genome of bantu origin. Next would be the 6% levantine (pheonician) contribution with the last 4% being a small contribution of west european (vandalic/germanic), pontic steepe (slavic) and arab stock. Those of the north of these various geographical barriers have its third largest genetic contributor tied between levantine (pheonician) with 10% contribution and pontic steepe (slavic) with another 10%, then the fourth largest contributor being the subsaharan bantu stock accounting for 7%, the last 3% being a contribution of west european (vandalic) and arab stock. The existence of bantu, steepe, west european, levantine, and arab influences in north africa was probably brought about by historical events like the ancient arab slave trade of slavs and africans that seeded these people in north africa, the conquest of north africa by the vandals and the subsequent reconquista that pushed vandal islamic converts into north africa, the pheonician colonies of carthage that created centers of levantine genetic stock. So it seems that the main north african stock is an ancient comingling between prehistoric man who live in the area and west asians.
I would think the Berbers simply paid a captain, who knew and had told them of the place, to bring them over. He would then contract with a few more captains as space required…
You maybe right. Berbers among others were fighting in Phoenician army. With the fall of Carthagen to avoid Roman prosecutions some of the folks could jump on the ships and flee. Phoenicians knew Atlantic very well as they were trading and sailing the waters since Bronze Age(3000BP)
@@veoletta Lmao no the Phoecians were friends with Berbers, the Phonecians established this as a purple colony like Palestine. It is known the "Guanches" (name needs to be changed) are Berber from Morocco, particularly the Riff, and other parts of North Africa, and even Africa. Palestinians also fought in the Egyptian army, are they Egyptian? Moroccans also fought in the Spanish army, are they Spanish? 3,000BP is nothing considering we know Moroccans inhhabited the Island since 6000BC, that's 8,000 years ago.
@@ximono Of course I can give you many, allegedly Moroccans first inhabited in 6thoubc, already experienced in agriculture and sheep hearding.. natuf culture you may be able to say was present on the island. then moroccans continually populated the island, and around the time of King Juba of Numidia, algerians (troublesome ones were imported there), people like kurds/iraqis, phonecians, and palestinians, visited the island... a medium blog called 'castilian conquest of the canary islands' will contain the information i shared here but,.. if you have any personal questions to ask me i can share and direct you you can go ahead and do that:).
No, from northern Africa. Atlanteans would have been bronze age or earlier, and contrary to common misunderstanding would have lived somewhere closer to the Black Sea than the Atlantic Ocean (there are two sets of Pillars of Hercules, and the older is south of Greece).
@@absalomdraconis I myself (and many others) are a strong believer that Atlantis were located in North Africa in the place the Greek called Atlantis (probably for a reason). I have not seen any theory that even remotely could challenge the Eye of Sahara theory.... So I think they could potentially be refugees from Atlantis.
Berber was a name "given" by some romans for people(s) living in the maghreb region (i read). And does "los canares" relate to some ducks or special birds there, and are those animals still to be found in some islands or islets of the archipelago? And the tales of BBC reel or rare earth on the Azores is similarly interesting.
@@John-pk9rw In history guys like me (in Switzerland) had gotten told what i wrote, but who could profoundedly believe in "the one history" like in one truth or one faith or belief? Good stuff erodes before the less precious does. And Barbar and Berber might also be differenciated in some regions relating to the "dominant" narrative. To me there is hardly and relation between Barbar and Berber. Like with the barbe of a barber shop? Or the pirate Barbarossa (red bearded)? Some learn until the have become robotic or zombputers?
@@exoduskamman1413 Now that is very interesting to those of us that are into such dogs. I will ask that question on the FB page for the preservation of white english (farm dogs)
I am descendant of the Guanches. My dna matches exactly to the mummies. I’m getting my dna verified and certified. Some people did survive when Spain committed genocide against my ancestors. 😢 the caves are empty because of Spain murdering them. We wish they would leave my ancestors to rest and not dig them up.
Many of the natives must have died from diseases like what happened in America but I think, and I remember a university professor also telling me this, that many of them mixed with the spanish settlers. And about the culture or language. I don't know maybe they didn't have written documents, only paintings in caves and things like that. The spanish destroyed written documents in America from the Aztec and others but I think they also kept some of them and translated them.
@@Anonymous37529eight I can confirm that the original islanders had no writing. This is why it is considered as a pre-historic, Neolithic cuture. The only exception are a couple of rock carving sites with alphabetiform engravings but no clue has yet been found that allows for a translation. Yes, it is true that diseases killed off lots of people. Many others were slaughtered in the wars defending the islands from the invaders or in the subsequent uprising of the inhabitants of La Gomera. The survivors would assimilate with the new colonists.
The canaries live in us, they have not disappeared, we carry their Genetics and much of their customs, because of that I carry with me things and customs of the Berber culture, North Africa. Cuba is the country with the largest number of Canarian emigrants since 1540, they began to arrive , then Venezuela and Puerto Rico. From the moment you take a genetic test and your results arrive, you begin to understand yourself better, in our case, the information passed on from our ancestors. We Still here...
Azul from the roots of my heart to my Amazigh Brothers and Sisters the Honorable Guanches.Greetings and solidarity until the death,from your Amazigh Brother from the Rif!!! My Brothers and Sisters stay strong our Star will still shine✊️
Canario Aborigine, an age stone society, has their roots in some small groups of proto-berber people. Protoberbers are too the ancestors of historical berbers, that were invaded, massacred, acculturated and assimilated by the muslim invasion from Asia in the seventh century. So canarians were, to a point, the only one genuine "withe" africans until the european invasion in the fifteenth century, and assimilated into the european spanish culture. The conquest of the islands was hard and brutal, and it cost, to the Spanish and their allies, more time (+100 years) and casualties (thousands) than the conquest of the major native civilizations in America. The skeletons of the aboriginal Canary Islanders have larger and heavier bones than European skeletons and the skulls are similar to prehistoric European skulls, sometimes indistinguishable from Cro-Magnon skulls. The old canarians were considered a warrior race, children were intensively trained for combat since early age and society was considerably violent, according to studies of bone remains from different periods, which show abundant fractures due to contusions caused by fights.
"historical berbers, that were invaded, massacred, acculturated and assimilated by the muslim invasion from Asia in the seventh century." baseless claims like these are why we Imazighen hate it when foriegners talk about our history. "Invaded and Massacred". The initial attack was minor, with thousands out of millions dying. If you want to refer to the Banu Hilal invasion a few centuries later, they were sent in by the Fatimids, which was an Amazigh caliphate in the first place. The biggest, and most powerful Amazigh dynasties came after the muslim "invasion".
It seems you are not aware we have their dna results and they were similar to modern north africans so you can throw away your eurocentrist white fantasy tale.
The Canary Island skulls are the largest CRO MAGNON. YOU ARE A SPANISH DUMBO EUROPEANS ARE NEANDER MIXED WITH CRO MAG THEY DO NOT HAVE CRO MAG ONLY SOME
@@LUDOVIKO8413 "We show that the genetic makeup of northern Europe was shaped by migrations from Siberia that began at least 3500 years ago." Lamnidis, T.C., Majander, K., Jeong, C. et al. Ancient Fennoscandian genomes reveal origin and spread of Siberian ancestry in Europe. Nat Commun 9, 5018 (2018).
Alonso Luis Fernandez de Lugo, one of the Spanish conquistadors, he painted them, and it seems from his drawings that the guanche look like us (I am a Berber ⵣ from Algeria)
I've read that there was evidence of human sacrifice. Baby sacrifice. Supposedly they would a baby off a cliff each year. I bring it up because didn't some ancient historians say that was a Phoenician custom?
@@jfranklin9549 : Even back in the day, the Romans would brag that they didn't practice human sacrifice, despite their Triumphs commonly ending in precisely that.
@@absalomdraconis its a Phoenician practice, though the natives of Capo Verde predates the Pheonician colonies in north africa. So we're not sure if they have a similar practice.
Just a hypothesis but What is it turned out the canaries was originally settled as a phonecian or roman penal colony of sorts? hence the lack of knowledge of boat craft??
I suspect this is from much further back in time. Farming may have been introduced into western europe from the middle east and while northafrica is not the middle east, it is possible that same middle eastern farmers also went to north africa also. So more likely the berbers and scots have similar ancestors.
I guess it's because Celtic people where in Iberia bordering Africa and people like that brought the Celtic culture to us from mainland Europe but that's probably a pipe dream
@@ahminyahnan1150 No you're right many Vikings were from here. They were Berber. Celtic and Nordic were classified as Sub-Caucasian due to this. Research how vikings wore kohl. Look at Berber Guanche clothes. You are right about the 1% i've seen that.
For over 300 years, the coastlines of the south west of England were at the mercy of Barbary pirates (corsairs) from the coast of North Africa, based mainly in the ports of Algiers, Tunis and Tripoli. Their number included not only North Africans but also English and Dutch privateers. Their aim was to capture slaves for the Arab slave markets in North Africa. The Barbary pirates attacked and plundered not only those countries bordering the Mediterranean but as far north as the English Channel, Ireland, Scotland and Iceland, with the western coast of England almost being raided at will.
@@Sheshoneq Still in use, I see! „Agadir“ means fortified granary? And „ighrem“ is a fortified berber village? And the original inhabitants on the Canary Islands, the Guanches are berbers as well, the Amazighs, right? Interesting!
Los nativos de Tenerife son guanches,cada isla tenía su nombre y los habitantes también,no me gusta que se cambió esto cada isla tiene su patrimonio y deberíamos observarlo y llamarnos como la historia dice no como quieran otros,los únicos que conservan su nombre original son los de gomerah los canarii,de Tamara, nos robaron la identidad la lengua,también hay pirámides,momificaciónes,el clima no es el mismo en todas las islas,la adaptación sugiere cambios,canario conoce tu cultura reivindicada,leed el Tenerite,a los cronistas y los avances,me crié en un barrio independentista de Tenerife,y era casi obligado conocer la historia y he seguido,pero fuera del independentismo que no tiene razón de ser ahora,viera,gadifer,y más que han seguido estudiando y clarificando,topónimos antroponimos,significados,cultura raíces,saludos a todos
So little is known about the Berbers (origins). . . very intriguing! Some say they were the people from Atlantis! That would make sense, if they were the ancient people who lived on the Azores and canary islands. . .and ten N Africa (Med)
Those same symbols on the rocks (around the end of the video) are identical to Arattan symbols, found on rocks in the Southern Donbas region of Ukraine, that were dated at around 20 - 30,000 years old. You're looking at an offshoot of the Arattan civilisation, that spread out from the Black Sea basin and seeded the vast majority of our most ancient cultures, across the European Mediterranean coastline, North Africa; the Middle East, Eurasia and the Orient.
You can observe the name of one of their kingdoms: "Galdar". The root syllable "Gal" is of indoeuropean tribes origins. Many indoeuropean tribes (mostly celts in western Europe) used to call themselves with the root word "Gal": Caledonians in north of Scotland (Galedonians), Gaels in middle and south Scotland, Gales in Wales, Galegos or Galos in Galicia and Portugal, Gauls in France, Galatians in Turkey (ancient Anatolia), etc. Many of their tribes in British isles, Galicia, PortuGAL have celtic names with the root "Gal". Also there are infinity of place names and toponyms with the root word "Gal" in many parts of Europe. In Ukraine is a site named Galicia too. Root word "Gal" means a variety of significances, but it generally means: white, powerful, great, hard as rock, etc. Because they were high in stature, powerfully built and were the white race
@@correctpolitically4784 In western Europe they are mostly of R1b haplogroup, maybe the Guanches were R1b. But there are R1a too, in the Baltic zone there is a tribe named "SemiGALLians", again with the root word "Gal" to describe the white indoeuropean race, this tribe surely being of R1a haplogroup related to Corded Ware people
@@correctpolitically4784 Maternal haplogroup U and its different subclades is associated with indoeuropeans. This maternal haplogroup has been found in Guanches in great quantities, so there is a possibility that they maybe were R1a or R1b between them...
"We know it was an "urgent" reason they left Africa? How was that determined? They took the time to provision ships for a long journey and ready to live permanently in a new, unknown location. Urgent? And they know unequivocally that they were from a Berber population? Archeologists are so quick to state implicit "facts" based on meager data and mostly fairy tale conjecture. Sorry to be so cynical. Probably they went to the Zahi Hawass school of Archeologists...
@@sosoew3115 : The urgent bit seems a tad questionable. They may as well have just been stranded when a fishing fleet from the mainland that they supported was destroyed.
@@guanche2130 The guanches have a unique culture, i am not debating that. But whether you like or not, they did originate from the berber people in north africa according to DNA studies. They obviously did not fall from the sky on those islands. I don't know what you talking about, facts are facts, i don't care about anyones agenda.
@@absalomdraconis i don't think so. Fishing boat landed on each of the islands is very unlikely. And who takes goats and dogs with them on fishing trip. And women and a number of people big enough to have a good gene pool to populate the island, all that was one day carried on a fishing boat??? Clearly, those people where taken there to settle on the islands. Why and how? Nobody knows.
@@guanche2130 1. a quick google search shows that haplogroup do exist in todays north africa. 2. Mitochondrial dna alone is not a good indication if origin, since in all popluation of the world you find a diversity of them, you know, a few men used have children with multiple women.. 3. In my coment i mentioned guanche mummies, i.e ancient people, you are talking about modern canarians with a lot of recent gene influx. When comparing dna from ancient guanches and berber, there is a clear link between them. You clearly don't understand what you talking about. But why do i care. You can go on and believe im your own fantazy.
If you ever spent time looking out your window, if you wake up every day at the same time, your window frame can show you pattern. I think someone was just observant one day and started to mess around.
Funny how they anticipated the Vikings or some European peoples to be the first inhabitants but as soon as they find out they're Berbers of north Africa she refers to them as :" these people" lol Must suck to continue to find these sophisticated ancient cultures turned out to be brown people.
Surely a lot more to be said than we are told here. If they came from North Africa around 1st Century they were coming from a metal using society but lost that and reverted to stone age. Presumably brought metal tools that remained in use until wore out. What other technology would they have known in North Africa e.g. grapes and wine-making, irrigation channels, flax cultivation to make linen clothes and did they bring any of these with them? And in N Africa would have known the use of coins, horses, carts, chariots and even war elephants. Did they preserve legends of such things? And did they all die out or are their descendants incorporated into the current population of the Canary Islands?
I wonder if there could have been volcanic eruptions setting them back? And maybe when the Phoenician trade route ended, their contact with the world also ended? From a DNA study: "Our analyses show that modern inhabitants of Gran Canaria inherited circa 16-31% of their genomic ancestry from the Guanches."
No se puede hablar así. ¿Cómo que volvieron a la edad de piedra? ¿En el DeLorean? Las poblaciones isleñas (que poblaron el archipiélago en época histórica) tuvieron que adaptarse a un territorio insular en casi total aislamiento. No se puede volver a la Edad de Piedra, porque ese fue un periodo que sucedió miles de años antes. Ya habían perdido ese conocimiento. El estudio de la industría lítica (de las herramientas de piedras y minerales como la obsidiana) demuestran que no corresponden en nada al Neolítico africano sencillamente porque no eran sociedades de ese periodo. Seguimos viviendo en tópicos desfasados que no explican la realidad de nuestros antepasados.
@@Noctem0wl yo soy militar, y sería muy difícil explicarte exactamente..pero es en el centro de la isla aproximadamente..sólo sé llegar por puntos de referencia en terreno. Es un asentamiento que no está registrado, en ningún libro y está totalmente abandonado. Fue en una de las caminatas donde hicimos ese descubrimiento. Hace muchos años...y eso seguirá ahí mismo seguro jejeje. Es por el centro de la isla ...hacia la zona de betancuria.
If there were 2 famous kingdoms and 30,000+ people in the 1400s when they were conquered, they are not a primitive ancient culture. Their descendants are still alive just like native Americans and the indigenous of Latin America. Essential relevant history! Thank you from a Spanish/Basque/Mexican/Irish American.
Why haven't any of them ever entertained the possibility that, those people may've perhaps seeded the Berber tribes of North Africa and not the other way round?
" la palabra gofio no se encuentra en ninguna lengua continental" ( coche carro veiculo ETC ) (cerdo, cochino, chacho, cuche, gocho, marrano, porcino, puerco). Segun tu la patata se temia que llamar en el mundo patata o papa
Tell if I’m wrong, but the Canaries are Spanish, not Hispanic. Hispanic being Spanish + Native. So it should have been a pre-Spanish Culture, not pre-Hispanic.
NO😂😂😂😂😂 you wish they were Spanish😂 they were Berber.. Moroccan there since 6000BC. Our DNA all over the place. Mumification like Egypt. Long live the Amaizgh People. And f the Spanish and now Latin people who are now gone
No, hispania was the name of the Iberian penninsula(Spain and Portugal) in ancient Roman times. True Hispanics come from Spain. Natives are not related to the Iberian Penninsula unless they have some spanish blood.
I'm going to have to listen again, but I thought they initially said that people arrived about the first century. We know that there was a thriving church across north Africa pre Islamic conquest. Maybe some were believers in The Way who were persecuted by the Romans and then some of their ancestors fled again before the Islamic armies, and had to keep secure fortresses to keep the Islamic slave traders out from conquest of the islands. So much north African civilisation lost at that time. Lack of written history, maybe destroyed by the Spanish? Tuaregs were Christian until that time.
and if they had resources but no ships, it was common to pay or retain a ship for service. "get us outta Dodge and do it now'!!! WE need a hideout. Casablanca 2,000 years ahead of time.
I'm from the canaries, something we all have been taught in history classes is that there were two mayor waves of migration of these people from North Africa, 1. Before Christ which corresponded to the inhabitants of the western islands and the 2. After Christ with the populations of the eastern islands. Each islands had different cultures and different gods because they were politheist but there was always a Father God called in Tenerife Achamán, in GC Acorán and in La Palma Abora, so it might be sincretism from monotheistic cultures that first arrived during Roman period. Also, in Tenerife, the guanche kingdoms of the South adopted very quickly catholicism due to misinterpretations between the figure of The Virgin Mary (La Virgen de Candelaria) and the mother godess Xaxiraxi.
I’m from the Canary Islands and I’m studying History at the University of Las Palmas, and I disagree with that theory that says they stablished in the mountains in the first time, cuz they came from the sea. The first thing they saw once they came here were the coasts, they had to make their first camps there. Archaeologists have found that almost every of them had a pathology related to the sea: surfer ear or exostosis, so they had to expend a lot of time near the water. Yeah, the marine activities are important, like fishing, but from most of the islands you can see other islands, so you’re telling me they never thought of reproducing something similar to the boats that brought them here? And not only that, the chronicles of the conquest do speak about boats they made with the woods of drago tree. And for more proves, there are obsidian tools in the island of La Gomera, a placed where there’s no deposits of this material, just in the island next to it, Tenerife. How did this tools came to the island? Swimming?
Genetic tests and Epigraphy are showing that canary indigenous were related to the amazigh people from Tunisia and places surrounded, the area of Cartago, where people did know about navigations.
Even accepting they didn’t know how to navigate, it is imposible to belief that in more than 1500 years they never thought of building something to navigate the coast of the islands or even to travel to the islands they were seeing from their coasts.
Our islands are destroyed by the production system our politicians have implanted for years here. The coasts are drown in concrete because of the hotels and touristic points. It is not wild to think that most of the deposits were destroyed in the construction of the hotels, or that there are even under them. There’s a lot of archaeological information we are not studying and we are making a very narrow speech.
Hey I'm Algerian north African berber and YES my ancestors were civilized and went to canary islands by sea by boats they knew how to navigate thanks to pheanicians and had writing system called tiffinagh brought by pheanincians too build homes, had civilized agriculture and farming thanks to Mesopotamian civilizations and studied architecture and astronomy.
I’m guessing our boats were mostly made for island hopping, and not made from wood, but reeds. Something that didn’t preserve well, but we didn’t need it to, perhaps. I read somewhere that the locals at one time long ago claimed that the islands were once connected but the sea swallowed all but the tips of the mountain ranges
@@exoduskamman1413 yeah maybe boats were made by then by my beautiful and amazing ancestor.
@@malikaabizar8318 Hi Malika, the Phonecians did not give the Berber script is dated to at least 7,000 years old, making it the oldest language.
Actually, Maghrebis are responsible for the Natufian culture in levant. Berbers and Somalis were known as expert sailors. Thanks.
I agree totally. On Fuerteventura the places where the people lived go right down to the sea. Yes in caves in the hills, but the sea was special and gave plenty food. And sure as hell they had boats for fishing. And went to the other island's.
The Guanche were long overdue to be discussed by historians and archaeologists.
Well I am Algerian North African Berber guanche amazigh
And I speak amazigh french and English
I would like to give my body to scientists lol 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 joking
no dicen nada de las piramides, y otros hallazgos increibles,,
The guanches are the ascent canarios from Tenerife. Only from Tenerife.... hundreds of years later.
@@alfonsofarfan5878 Nope they migrated from the Riff, and even other parts of Africa.
@@omarioussaidene4917 I'll offer you 2 Camels for your proposal
Didn’t know Jack Black was a Spanish archaeologist!
And Carlos Santana! It's all the rage.
Indudablemente, es el (DOPPELGANGER) Jack Black.
😂😂
Goes by the name Juan Negro.
Do not forget peeps. Jack black is also a Lucha Libre. Perfect trifecta.
From a kabyle amazigh Berber 🇩🇿ⵣ greetings to the all imazighen ⵣ around the world
Before amazogh obligated to convert to islam who were they gods... cabilye conserv?
@@chinchanchou The Amazighs were believing in Berber methodology
Like : worshipping god of water "ANZAR" god of war "GURZIL" god of nature and high mountains "ATLAS" god of moon "TIZIRI"...etc.and a lot were non religious or atheists. After the Roman empire ruled north Africa some of them converted to Christianity. After the Islamic conquest they converted to Islam but there still minorities in Kabylia who are still christians till today.
the gaunche natives is the closest genetic ancestors to the north african populations of antiquity.
@@johnisaacfelipe6357 Huh? The "Guanche" are from Morocco, and North Africa.
@@johnisaacfelipe6357
Lol just stop it 😂😂
the word berbers is a little harsh they call theme self amazigh
Why oh why dont the BBC make more of these. Legitimate mystery
In some islands like mine women were allowed to get married with three men at the same time. During one month one acted like the husband and the two others like servants. It was a way to control overpopulation on the islands with litle resources.
😂😂😂😂 ⵣ
That's smart.
Why no mention of Pliny the Elder's account of King Juba's expedition?
I don't think saying "mysterious" is an appropriate, because everybody knows there are mummies and everybody knows there were people... before the Spanish killed them to inhabit the island. I mean, it's no surprise to anyone, is it?
This is what’s so crazy about this. Did the Spanish not learn anything about these people, their customs, writings or language before exterminating them? It’s not like they came to find a few people, but two kingdoms!
Nope it isn't because that's how humans and history work everyone invested killed and raided others to get more power
They weren't exterminatex by the spanish, even 100 years after the conquest 2/3 of the canary populatioj was still native guanche, they just kixed with spanish settlers forming new race
These islands were "discovered" by the Portuguese. Also the islands were previously visited by the Phoenicians, the Greeks and the Carthaginians.
I'm sure the Spanish enslaved the survivors of the initial slaughter and then worked these folks to death. That was their usual pattern. I'm just going by what the did in the Americas.
I think the calendars are where the shadows fell inside a particular cave wall each day. The model may have been placed in several places but one of them was where the shadows fell each day. No clue why I think that, except that I’m part Canarian. Someone should look and see if the shadows still fall on one of them
Vive Amazigh Im Amazigh from Morocco ❤❤
The carved out silo caves look amazing.
Wow-those cliff face dwellings look exactly the same as those in New Mexico (USA) ; places like Mesa Verde (ca. AD800 or so).
Yes I've heard this too. And might be writing styles similar i heard.
Yes, the Amazigh symbol in America, Mexico, Hawai, Saudi...
@@crayzmarc well many Spanish (after helping wipe out Berber) took their writing system, Cubans helped wipe out. I think Dominicans speak a dialect from Canary.
@@incogb6696 technically they are a mixture of Xanthochroi (White European) and Melanochroi (Mediterranean).
thyea re CAUCASIANS, says GENETIC.thye are not negroids (negroid race), attention there is no such thing african race. cause there are caucasiasn (whites living in africa too)
caucasias came from caucaso, spredinf by erurope celtic tribes,, the caucasiasn came from iran millions years bringing civilization.
@@robertokandal Nope, we have all their tribes from Morocco to Libya
As a descendant of the first family to ever be colonized by Spain, in the history of the world, please shed more light on Tyteroygatra (Lanzarote)... We're starting to see the island + people overlooked or outright lied about.
Titerroygatra was the name
How were you able to track that information, your lineage I mean so precise?
Probably not, as the records would be impossible to keep for that long on what was essentially a trading outpost.
Regarding genetic affinities, studies have indicated that the Guanches had genetic links to various populations. There is evidence of genetic similarities between the Guanches and the Berbers (Amazigh) of North Africa, which is not surprising considering the geographical proximity between the Canary Islands and North Africa. The Canary Islands were likely part of the broader network of interaction and migration in the region.
Thanks from Brazil 🇧🇷.
2:49 Ancient Hylians conformed.
There is substancial evidence that many Puerto Ricans have Moorish and Berber blood (The Guanches) from the Canary Islanders that migrated.
As I was kid growing up in south of Morocco, I used to hear stories from my berber grandma telling us that was a time when people flee to escape wars and death and they usually run to hide in the mountains or try to cross the ocean, I personally believe that Guanches found a way to escape to canaries and decided to stay there and build a life until the spanish came and killed them all 😖
jack black really out there studying gran canaria, legend
I’m from a place very close to La Fortaleza. I love it, I sometimes go on hikes there.
Absolutely fascinating!
The conquest of the Canary Islands was from 1402 to 1496, at least 100 years. It cost Spain more time than the conquest of America and many more deaths of Spanish soldiers. No wonder...
The ancient Canarians came from ancient African warriors and adventurers and many were a mixture of ancient Vikings.
They were tall, strong, extraordinarily agile and had an aim that never ceased to amaze the Spanish conquerors.
The Guanches respected their women, worshipped the sun, the earth and knew the stars and their movements, which allowed them to establish eclipses and calendars.
A peaceful culture but with great warriors who never surrendered, a magical civilization that deserves to be known and respected.
Vikings come from Amazigh LONG LIVE AMAZIGH ⵣ 🇲🇦🇩🇿🇱🇾 ⵣ
@@incogb6696 The Vikings originated from the area that became modern-day Denmark, Sweden, and Norway. They settled in England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Iceland, Greenland, North America, and parts of the European mainland, among other places.
@@SanjayBarua That was us im certain
Stop spitting nonsense, history is a serious matter, stop taking your fantasies for reality
I'm certain they were not mixed with Viking
0:17 Gran Canaria is where this culture found its greatest development because the aborigines of this island always had more influence from abroad than on the other islands. Not because in Gran Canaria they were more intelligent than the others... on the other hand, the best and most representative mummies are those of the island of Tenerife, which is why this documentary should have been shot there.
En Gran Canaria es donde esta cultura encontró su mayor desarrollo porque los aborígenes de esta isla tuvieron siempre mas influencia del exterior que en las demás islas. No porque en Gran Canaria fueran mas inteligentes que los demás... por otro lado las mejores momias y las mas representativas son las de la isla de Tenerife, por lo que este documental deberia haberse rodado allí.
The Aborigines on Tenerife had contact with ET.
@@stefanschleps8758 You are very ignorant, inform yourself beforehand. Gran Canaria was populated in successive waves over the centuries that updated the aboriginal culture. Tenerife had very few waves arriving on the island.
😂😂😂😂😂
y por qué tenerife tiene las mejores momias?
Venga chicharreros no sean resentidos que somos hermanos jajajaj
I know a little of the dogs that the conquistadors used on the canary islands.
'The Presa Canario is a Spanish breed of large dog of mastiff or catch dog type. It originates in the autonomous region of the Canary Islands, and is found mostly in the islands of Gran Canaria and Tenerife.'
In colonial times dogs were often used against native people that did not have have modern weapons.
y el bull dog ingles es originario del chato castellano, perro de presa y guardia de la meseta castellana española.
los indios americanos fueron exterminados por los colonos ingleses.
@@LUDOVIKO8413
You stated
'and the English bulldog is originally from the Castilian chato, dog of prey and guard of the Spanish Castilian plateau"
This is a contentious topic. Many state that a barbarian tribe of Persian ethnicity called the alans, or alanos, alães or alaunts, entered the Roman empire. There were part of the barbarian immigration to the later Roman empire. Many of these peoples from the east likely had large guard and war dogs as still exist to this day in the mountains of those regions. The Alans at one time had a kingdom in Spain and were also influential in what is now france.
The Alans are gone, but dogs still bearing that name are found in France and Iberia.
The Normans conquered England in 1066 and imported many things from Normandy and these are said to include the Alaunt Dogs. But there was a lot trade between all of these countries and no one can say with proof exactly where the Bulldogs of England came from. What remains today of the English bulldog is a deformed pet quality animal with inherent physical deformities.
@@LUDOVIKO8413 The english used at one time the disease of small pox it is said. Mostly they used other indian tribes like the Cherokee to fight other indians. The Americans did a lot of killing, but not so with much dogs. Guns and swords were more common implements of death.
lo squat. They are not "native people" we are all from Africa. They are not any more native than you or me. Even "aboriginal" is a meaningless term. We are animals, descended from other animals, descended from single-celled life. If natives owned the land because they took it from the previous life forms, then we are the natives when we take it from them.
It feels so weird bbc covering stuff from where i live since we very seldom have content
Didn't you have like a volcanic expolin some time ago?
Yo venía a comentar lo mismo!
Por cierto, tu pfp de Luca... 🥺
this Civilisation is named amazigh and still live in Morocco and that kind of bank was for storing food and goods and was named agoudar that's why a city in morocco is named Agadir
Isn´t there a location called Arguin somewhere in Morroco? On Gran Canaria we have Arguineguin and I always felt it might translate as New Arguin or some such.
@@antonhosinsky3090 arguin is a word splited from ARGAN tree in Amazigh language as i told just before spanish invasion of south morocco and canaries "acnaries" meaning another kind of fruits tree prickly pears
Yo soy de Gran Canaria y aquí hay una riqueza arqueológica impresionante que tenemos que cuidar y respetar para nuestros descendientes
Bien dicho
@@ruymansan1647 Saludos Ruyman
Devuélvelo a los bereberes/morros si respetas lo que España les robó. Tu isla ahora está llena de burdeles y bares gay joder!
@@alphachingon6920 No tiene nada que ver lo que está diciendo. Saludos y Felices Reyes.
@@ceciliomartingarcia1902 Como Canario debes saber que Marruecos y España todavía están en guerra por esas islas. Yo mismo soy holandés y los holandeses hemos devuelto todas nuestras antiguas colonias a los habitantes originales. Eso es lo que quiero decir. Felices Reyes para ti también.
2:49 Triforce 🧝
So, this is the inspiration for “Legend of Zelda” Triforce…? 😉
"We know they were no seafarers because the conquistadores said so" - we HAVE taken into account the conquistadores might have been trying to portrait them as wild savages without any skills or culture, do we?
True dat!
Exactly. A time old technique for legitimising the massacres, pillaging and colonising that took place.
Do you think a studied historian or archaeologist wouldn't think of this option themselves? If they chose this interpretation, they probably have arguments to support it which just aren't shown in the video. People for examole always differ in their perception and opinions. That's no different with all the different writers from that era. The assumption that colonizers always looked at the people they colonized as "wild savages without any skills or culture" is superficial and stereotypical.
@@PtolemaicTaweret I definitely hope it went like that, but "we know because X said so" does not really reflect that, does it? Propably the longer reasoning got lost in the cutting process, who knows.
My ancestors crossed to canary islands because of the Romans Italy now because of their persecution. And no that had a culture and a CIVILISATION. FROM AM ALGERIAN MEDITERRANEAN NORTH AFRICAN AMAZIGH
Not Berber it is amazigh Berber it was Greeks and Romans that gave us this name because they could not understand what we were talking like it was gibberish, to me it a beautiful amazigh language we we're trading with them with wheat via Mediterranean Sea for example couscous is our traditional dish amazigh north African Berber dish
Their flight out was probably cancelled and they just gave up.
😆
Almost happened to me. I'm not joking, after 3 days waiting for new flight out I was starting to feel naturalised.
I wish they had gone into greater depth on their genetic composition
They are related to the Basque. They were white as was all of North Africa in ancient times.
@@VaxtorT : No, north Africa was brown, as was the southern half of Italy, Greece, the Levant, and Egypt. White skin was from different areas that wrapped around that area, from east to north.
@@absalomdraconis no
@@absalomdraconis They were brown, a mainly west asian peoples, they have most connection with the turkic peoples who live in Syria, Iran, and Iraq. Almost 35% of their genome clusters there. the 2nd largest is the iberomorrocan genome being 30%, these are the prehistoric natives of north africa who lived in that region for 20,000 years. There was probably a massive migration wave from west asia into north africa that lasted for millenials creating a genetic stock unique only to the region.
the 3rd largest group seperates depending on the geographical bisection created by the atlas, ahagar, and tibesti mountain ranges aswell as the massive saharan desert. those south of these geographical barriers have 25% genome of bantu origin. Next would be the 6% levantine (pheonician) contribution with the last 4% being a small contribution of west european (vandalic/germanic), pontic steepe (slavic) and arab stock.
Those of the north of these various geographical barriers have its third largest genetic contributor tied between levantine (pheonician) with 10% contribution and pontic steepe (slavic) with another 10%, then the fourth largest contributor being the subsaharan bantu stock accounting for 7%, the last 3% being a contribution of west european (vandalic) and arab stock.
The existence of bantu, steepe, west european, levantine, and arab influences in north africa was probably brought about by historical events like the ancient arab slave trade of slavs and africans that seeded these people in north africa, the conquest of north africa by the vandals and the subsequent reconquista that pushed vandal islamic converts into north africa, the pheonician colonies of carthage that created centers of levantine genetic stock.
So it seems that the main north african stock is an ancient comingling between prehistoric man who live in the area and west asians.
@@johnisaacfelipe6357 thank you it’s disturbing how people are trying to whitewash everything
I vow to travel many islands as many as possible in Canaries and Azores, just sceneries in La Gomera and Gran Canaria are astounding 🎉😊
Beautiful.
I would think the Berbers simply paid a captain, who knew and had told them of the place, to bring them over. He would then contract with a few more captains as space required…
You maybe right. Berbers among others were fighting in Phoenician army. With the fall of Carthagen to avoid Roman prosecutions some of the folks could jump on the ships and flee. Phoenicians knew Atlantic very well as they were trading and sailing the waters since Bronze Age(3000BP)
@@veoletta Lmao no the Phoecians were friends with Berbers, the Phonecians established this as a purple colony like Palestine. It is known the "Guanches" (name needs to be changed) are Berber from Morocco, particularly the Riff, and other parts of North Africa, and even Africa.
Palestinians also fought in the Egyptian army, are they Egyptian? Moroccans also fought in the Spanish army, are they Spanish?
3,000BP is nothing considering we know Moroccans inhhabited the Island since 6000BC, that's 8,000 years ago.
@@incogb6696 why from the riff? where do you have this information from
@@incogb6696 Do you have a source for Moroccans inhabiting the island since 6000BC? I'm not doubting you, just curious to learn more.
@@ximono Of course I can give you many, allegedly Moroccans first inhabited in 6thoubc, already experienced in agriculture and sheep hearding.. natuf culture you may be able to say was present on the island.
then moroccans continually populated the island, and around the time of King Juba of Numidia, algerians (troublesome ones were imported there), people like kurds/iraqis, phonecians, and palestinians, visited the island...
a medium blog called 'castilian conquest of the canary islands' will contain the information i shared here
but,.. if you have any personal questions to ask me i can share and direct you you can go ahead and do that:).
Finally some discussion about the Guanchos! The people from Atlantis perhaps?
No, from northern Africa. Atlanteans would have been bronze age or earlier, and contrary to common misunderstanding would have lived somewhere closer to the Black Sea than the Atlantic Ocean (there are two sets of Pillars of Hercules, and the older is south of Greece).
@@absalomdraconis I myself (and many others) are a strong believer that Atlantis were located in North Africa in the place the Greek called Atlantis (probably for a reason). I have not seen any theory that even remotely could challenge the Eye of Sahara theory.... So I think they could potentially be refugees from Atlantis.
@@Pellapoo OMG as a North African im so flattered lol
Guanches
@@absalomdraconis Nope Atlanteans are Berber. Try again?
*AKAL - AWAL - AFGAN*
TIERRA - LENGUA - GENTE/PUEBLO
This Colonization needs to End...
My dna test says I'm 99% more related to them than others on the website 😂
Berber was a name "given" by some romans for people(s) living in the maghreb region (i read). And does "los canares" relate to some ducks or special birds there, and are those animals still to be found in some islands or islets of the archipelago? And the tales of BBC reel or rare earth on the Azores is similarly interesting.
Nope Romans never called Imazighen barbar. They called us Moors. Barbar is a name given by Arabs.
@@John-pk9rw In history guys like me (in Switzerland) had gotten told what i wrote, but who could profoundedly believe in "the one history" like in one truth or one faith or belief? Good stuff erodes before the less precious does. And Barbar and Berber might also be differenciated in some regions relating to the "dominant" narrative. To me there is hardly and relation between Barbar and Berber. Like with the barbe of a barber shop? Or the pirate Barbarossa (red bearded)? Some learn until the have become robotic or zombputers?
Canary Islands namesake refers to dogs, canines. The bird canary was named later, after the islands
@@exoduskamman1413 Now that is very interesting to those of us that are into such dogs. I will ask that question on the FB page for the preservation of white english (farm dogs)
Or did the Portuguese try to say they were Cannibals??
Amazing. I'm 44 & I've never heard of these people.
Why they avoided calling then Guanche! ?😢
Wow what an amazing video
I am descendant of the Guanches. My dna matches exactly to the mummies. I’m getting my dna verified and certified. Some people did survive when Spain committed genocide against my ancestors. 😢 the caves are empty because of Spain murdering them. We wish they would leave my ancestors to rest and not dig them up.
Do you or did your parents live in the Canary Islands?
Hermano,somos muchos🙏🙏🙏
I'm portuguese on this site I uploaded my myheritage dna to and it says I'm more closely related to them than 99% of people on the website
Nah, dig'em all up.
YOU HAVE AMAZIGH HERITAGE, REAL SPAIN WAS AMAZIGH ORIFINALLY BEFORE VISIGOTHS INVADED
Great! Best Regards from Portugal!
Not so much a "lost" civilization as an eradicated one. They'd know a lot more about these people if they didn't nearly wipe them out.
Many of the natives must have died from diseases like what happened in America but I think, and I remember a university professor also telling me this, that many of them mixed with the spanish settlers.
And about the culture or language. I don't know maybe they didn't have written documents, only paintings in caves and things like that. The spanish destroyed written documents in America from the Aztec and others but I think they also kept some of them and translated them.
Not really eradicated, they live within modern canary islanders.
@@Anonymous37529eight I can confirm that the original islanders had no writing. This is why it is considered as a pre-historic, Neolithic cuture. The only exception are a couple of rock carving sites with alphabetiform engravings but no clue has yet been found that allows for a translation.
Yes, it is true that diseases killed off lots of people. Many others were slaughtered in the wars defending the islands from the invaders or in the subsequent uprising of the inhabitants of La Gomera. The survivors would assimilate with the new colonists.
@Manila Ryce, wipe them out? Their descendants are still alive in the Canary Islands.
The canaries live in us, they have not disappeared, we carry their Genetics and much of their customs, because of that I carry with me things and customs of the Berber culture, North Africa. Cuba is the country with the largest number of Canarian emigrants since 1540, they began to arrive , then Venezuela and Puerto Rico.
From the moment you take a genetic test and your results arrive, you begin to understand yourself better, in our case, the information passed on from our ancestors.
We Still here...
2:51 nice triforce
...and NOTHING about their puzzling Pyramids? this report is incomplete for sure.
Azul from the roots of my heart to my Amazigh Brothers and Sisters the Honorable Guanches.Greetings and solidarity until the death,from your Amazigh Brother from the Rif!!! My Brothers and Sisters stay strong our Star will still shine✊️
Nobody here gives a damn about you man, we identify ourselves as Spanish with Berber heritage, but Spanish nonetheless.
Fascinating 🧐
Some of the symbols remind me of Pictish symbols.
I fallow genetics around the world
Just more questions that could have been answered had our kind not massacred and conquered everyone
I live in Ecuador where we have the Canaris .. they were here way before the Incas and now I wonder how they could be related to the Canari islands !
Nothing at all, just a coincidence mate
Time to discover
BBC talking about truth is quite funny
Canario Aborigine, an age stone society, has their roots in some small groups of proto-berber people. Protoberbers are too the ancestors of historical berbers, that were invaded, massacred, acculturated and assimilated by the muslim invasion from Asia in the seventh century.
So canarians were, to a point, the only one genuine "withe" africans until the european invasion in the fifteenth century, and assimilated into the european spanish culture.
The conquest of the islands was hard and brutal, and it cost, to the Spanish and their allies, more time (+100 years) and casualties (thousands) than the conquest of the major native civilizations in America.
The skeletons of the aboriginal Canary Islanders have larger and heavier bones than European skeletons and the skulls are similar to prehistoric European skulls, sometimes indistinguishable from Cro-Magnon skulls.
The old canarians were considered a warrior race, children were intensively trained for combat since early age and society was considerably violent, according to studies of bone remains from different periods, which show abundant fractures due to contusions caused by fights.
"historical berbers, that were invaded, massacred, acculturated and assimilated by the muslim invasion from Asia in the seventh century." baseless claims like these are why we Imazighen hate it when foriegners talk about our history. "Invaded and Massacred". The initial attack was minor, with thousands out of millions dying. If you want to refer to the Banu Hilal invasion a few centuries later, they were sent in by the Fatimids, which was an Amazigh caliphate in the first place. The biggest, and most powerful Amazigh dynasties came after the muslim "invasion".
It seems you are not aware we have their dna results and they were similar to modern north africans so you can throw away your eurocentrist white fantasy tale.
EXCUSE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPANIISH ONLY K1LLED THE BERBERS ON CANARY!!! THE ARABS AFFECTED US ONLY A LITTLE. GET EDCATED SPANISHH PEOPLLE ARE DDDUMB
@@rayk7307 He is Spanish this is all they're good for. They forget who h1tler Berber dna comes from >.< We wait amigo
The Canary Island skulls are the largest CRO MAGNON. YOU ARE A SPANISH DUMBO
EUROPEANS ARE NEANDER MIXED WITH CRO MAG THEY DO NOT HAVE CRO MAG ONLY SOME
no images of the people. Did they look like Ethiopians? Egyptians? Moors?
white.
They were white
@@LUDOVIKO8413 "We show that the genetic makeup of northern Europe was shaped by migrations from Siberia that began at least 3500 years ago."
Lamnidis, T.C., Majander, K., Jeong, C. et al. Ancient Fennoscandian genomes reveal origin and spread of Siberian ancestry in Europe. Nat Commun 9, 5018 (2018).
Alonso Luis Fernandez de Lugo, one of the Spanish conquistadors, he painted them, and it seems from his drawings that the guanche look like us
(I am a Berber ⵣ from Algeria)
@@massinissaziriamazigh8122 Does amazigh=Berber? If I look at amazigh tribe, would you say that's what they looked like?
Who then made the pyramid of stones on LaPalma?
The guanches of La Palma.
I've read that there was evidence of human sacrifice. Baby sacrifice. Supposedly they would a baby off a cliff each year. I bring it up because didn't some ancient historians say that was a Phoenician custom?
Very common around the world, but no one talks of it.
@@jfranklin9549 : Even back in the day, the Romans would brag that they didn't practice human sacrifice, despite their Triumphs commonly ending in precisely that.
@@absalomdraconis its a Phoenician practice, though the natives of Capo Verde predates the Pheonician colonies in north africa. So we're not sure if they have a similar practice.
Stop it. You'll offend someone.
@@redtobertshateshandles And?
2:52 wow ...energy chips
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Just a hypothesis but What is it turned out the canaries was originally settled as a phonecian or roman penal colony of sorts? hence the lack of knowledge of boat craft??
Queda mucha tela que cortar
The Berbs had old histories that said that ones upon the time,
we berbs where light or red haired and blue or green eyed.
Interesting
Where are the mummies? I only see skeletons...
All Scottish people have 1 percent berber and Tuareg tribesmen in them look it up they could've travelled further
I suspect this is from much further back in time. Farming may have been introduced into western europe from the middle east and while northafrica is not the middle east, it is possible that same middle eastern farmers also went to north africa also. So more likely the berbers and scots have similar ancestors.
Neolithic Farmers, ancestors to both. A direct North African connection for a native Scot is highly unlikely
I guess it's because Celtic people where in Iberia bordering Africa and people like that brought the Celtic culture to us from mainland Europe but that's probably a pipe dream
@@ahminyahnan1150 No you're right many Vikings were from here. They were Berber. Celtic and Nordic were classified as Sub-Caucasian due to this.
Research how vikings wore kohl. Look at Berber Guanche clothes. You are right about the 1% i've seen that.
For over 300 years, the coastlines of the south west of England were at the mercy of Barbary pirates (corsairs) from the coast of North Africa, based mainly in the ports of Algiers, Tunis and Tripoli. Their number included not only North Africans but also English and Dutch privateers. Their aim was to capture slaves for the Arab slave markets in North Africa.
The Barbary pirates attacked and plundered not only those countries bordering the Mediterranean but as far north as the English Channel, Ireland, Scotland and Iceland, with the western coast of England almost being raided at will.
I thought Phoenician at first
Whenever some nerd says “without a doubt” I have doubts.
What ever, it's close to Africa, to morocco
they were the humans that Enki was hiding from Enlil, they were the first pure blood, also the ones in the Americas,... you better ask somebody!
Completely wrong time period.
Crasias por la información
Results of DNA from bones or teeth?????????? who were they?
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Same storage technique as used by the natives of North America and Asia…
Same storage technique in Mali with the Dogon people too.
@@lf1496 Yes!
Esa técnica se utiliza hasta hoy en el Norte de África. Son los "agadir", "ighrem", los graneros fortificados. Los guanches somos amazighes.
@@Sheshoneq Still in use, I see!
„Agadir“ means fortified granary? And „ighrem“ is a fortified berber village? And the original inhabitants on the Canary Islands, the Guanches are berbers as well, the Amazighs, right?
Interesting!
@@Sheshoneq There’s a coastal town in Morocco by the name of Agadir
Los nativos de Tenerife son guanches,cada isla tenía su nombre y los habitantes también,no me gusta que se cambió esto cada isla tiene su patrimonio y deberíamos observarlo y llamarnos como la historia dice no como quieran otros,los únicos que conservan su nombre original son los de gomerah los canarii,de Tamara, nos robaron la identidad la lengua,también hay pirámides,momificaciónes,el clima no es el mismo en todas las islas,la adaptación sugiere cambios,canario conoce tu cultura reivindicada,leed el Tenerite,a los cronistas y los avances,me crié en un barrio independentista de Tenerife,y era casi obligado conocer la historia y he seguido,pero fuera del independentismo que no tiene razón de ser ahora,viera,gadifer,y más que han seguido estudiando y clarificando,topónimos antroponimos,significados,cultura raíces,saludos a todos
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0:20 Spelled 'Civilization' wrong
the BBC is British - 'Civilisation' is the British spelling.
@@marcusabroad386 Fair enough, thanks
What's with the triforce wrf
So little is known about the Berbers (origins). . . very intriguing! Some say they were the people from Atlantis! That would make sense, if they were the ancient people who lived on the Azores and canary islands. . .and ten N Africa (Med)
Those same symbols on the rocks (around the end of the video) are identical to Arattan symbols, found on rocks in the Southern Donbas region of Ukraine, that were dated at around 20 - 30,000 years old.
You're looking at an offshoot of the Arattan civilisation, that spread out from the Black Sea basin and seeded the vast majority of our most ancient cultures, across the European Mediterranean coastline, North Africa; the Middle East, Eurasia and the Orient.
We wuz neanderthals
You can observe the name of one of their kingdoms: "Galdar". The root syllable "Gal" is of indoeuropean tribes origins. Many indoeuropean tribes (mostly celts in western Europe) used to call themselves with the root word "Gal": Caledonians in north of Scotland (Galedonians), Gaels in middle and south Scotland, Gales in Wales, Galegos or Galos in Galicia and Portugal, Gauls in France, Galatians in Turkey (ancient Anatolia), etc.
Many of their tribes in British isles, Galicia, PortuGAL have celtic names with the root "Gal". Also there are infinity of place names and toponyms with the root word "Gal" in many parts of Europe. In Ukraine is a site named Galicia too. Root word "Gal" means a variety of significances, but it generally means: white, powerful, great, hard as rock, etc. Because they were high in stature, powerfully built and were the white race
R1b ?
@@correctpolitically4784 In western Europe they are mostly of R1b haplogroup, maybe the Guanches were R1b. But there are R1a too, in the Baltic zone there is a tribe named "SemiGALLians", again with the root word "Gal" to describe the white indoeuropean race, this tribe surely being of R1a haplogroup related to Corded Ware people
@@correctpolitically4784 Maternal haplogroup U and its different subclades is associated with indoeuropeans. This maternal haplogroup has been found in Guanches in great quantities, so there is a possibility that they maybe were R1a or R1b between them...
"We know it was an "urgent" reason they left Africa? How was that determined? They took the time to provision ships for a long journey and ready to live permanently in a new, unknown location. Urgent? And they know unequivocally that they were from a Berber population? Archeologists are so quick to state implicit "facts" based on meager data and mostly fairy tale conjecture. Sorry to be so cynical. Probably they went to the Zahi Hawass school of Archeologists...
Dna from guanche mumies show they are berber. It is a fact.
@@sosoew3115 : The urgent bit seems a tad questionable. They may as well have just been stranded when a fishing fleet from the mainland that they supported was destroyed.
@@guanche2130 The guanches have a unique culture, i am not debating that.
But whether you like or not, they did originate from the berber people in north africa according to DNA studies. They obviously did not fall from the sky on those islands.
I don't know what you talking about, facts are facts, i don't care about anyones agenda.
@@absalomdraconis i don't think so. Fishing boat landed on each of the islands is very unlikely.
And who takes goats and dogs with them on fishing trip. And women and a number of people big enough to have a good gene pool to populate the island, all that was one day carried on a fishing boat???
Clearly, those people where taken there to settle on the islands. Why and how? Nobody knows.
@@guanche2130 1. a quick google search shows that haplogroup do exist in todays north africa.
2. Mitochondrial dna alone is not a good indication if origin, since in all popluation of the world you find a diversity of them, you know, a few men used have children with multiple women..
3. In my coment i mentioned guanche mummies, i.e ancient people, you are talking about modern canarians with a lot of recent gene influx.
When comparing dna from ancient guanches and berber, there is a clear link between them.
You clearly don't understand what you talking about. But why do i care. You can go on and believe im your own fantazy.
If you ever spent time looking out your window, if you wake up every day at the same time, your window frame can show you pattern.
I think someone was just observant one day and started to mess around.
Un arqueologo Aleman se encontro en fuerteventura o Lanzarote unos esqueletos capridos (cabras) de 8000 años de antiguedas.
Funny how they anticipated the Vikings or some European peoples to be the first inhabitants but as soon as they find out they're Berbers of north Africa she refers to them as :" these people" lol
Must suck to continue to find these sophisticated ancient cultures turned out to be brown people.
Surely a lot more to be said than we are told here. If they came from North Africa around 1st Century they were coming from a metal using society but lost that and reverted to stone age. Presumably brought metal tools that remained in use until wore out. What other technology would they have known in North Africa e.g. grapes and wine-making, irrigation channels, flax cultivation to make linen clothes and did they bring any of these with them? And in N Africa would have known the use of coins, horses, carts, chariots and even war elephants. Did they preserve legends of such things? And did they all die out or are their descendants incorporated into the current population of the Canary Islands?
Moroccans since 6000BC ⵣ go cry about it you have no history and culture
I wonder if there could have been volcanic eruptions setting them back? And maybe when the Phoenician trade route ended, their contact with the world also ended?
From a DNA study: "Our analyses show that modern inhabitants of Gran Canaria inherited circa 16-31% of their genomic ancestry from the Guanches."
No se puede hablar así. ¿Cómo que volvieron a la edad de piedra? ¿En el DeLorean? Las poblaciones isleñas (que poblaron el archipiélago en época histórica) tuvieron que adaptarse a un territorio insular en casi total aislamiento. No se puede volver a la Edad de Piedra, porque ese fue un periodo que sucedió miles de años antes. Ya habían perdido ese conocimiento. El estudio de la industría lítica (de las herramientas de piedras y minerales como la obsidiana) demuestran que no corresponden en nada al Neolítico africano sencillamente porque no eran sociedades de ese periodo. Seguimos viviendo en tópicos desfasados que no explican la realidad de nuestros antepasados.
Yo conozco un asentamiento en Fuerteventura no descrito en ningún texto antiguo.
Cuál es?
@@Noctem0wl yo soy militar, y sería muy difícil explicarte exactamente..pero es en el centro de la isla aproximadamente..sólo sé llegar por puntos de referencia en terreno.
Es un asentamiento que no está registrado, en ningún libro y está totalmente abandonado. Fue en una de las caminatas donde hicimos ese descubrimiento. Hace muchos años...y eso seguirá ahí mismo seguro jejeje. Es por el centro de la isla ...hacia la zona de betancuria.
@@nelsonvasquezmunoz3429 Ve allí otra vez. Anota las coordenadas GPS. Informa a los arqueólogos. ;)
If there were 2 famous kingdoms and 30,000+ people in the 1400s when they were conquered, they are not a primitive ancient culture. Their descendants are still alive just like native Americans and the indigenous of Latin America. Essential relevant history! Thank you from a Spanish/Basque/Mexican/Irish American.
¡Gofio!
“lost” 😂 their african bro, if you ask the people on coastal west africa, they will tell you. But nobody wants to hear from them
As Mr.Spock used to say....
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Why haven't any of them ever entertained the possibility that, those people may've perhaps seeded the Berber tribes of North Africa and not the other way round?
Because of the age of the artifacts
No, the berber tribes and the canary islanders come from the same place.
" la palabra gofio no se encuentra en ninguna lengua continental" ( coche carro veiculo ETC ) (cerdo, cochino, chacho,
cuche, gocho, marrano, porcino, puerco). Segun tu la patata se temia que llamar en el mundo patata o papa
2:48 perhaps they were refugees from Hyrule
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Tell if I’m wrong, but the Canaries are Spanish, not Hispanic. Hispanic being Spanish + Native. So it should have been a pre-Spanish Culture, not pre-Hispanic.
NO😂😂😂😂😂 you wish they were Spanish😂 they were Berber.. Moroccan there since 6000BC. Our DNA all over the place. Mumification like Egypt. Long live the Amaizgh People. And f the Spanish and now Latin people who are now gone
No, hispania was the name of the Iberian penninsula(Spain and Portugal) in ancient Roman times. True Hispanics come from Spain. Natives are not related to the Iberian Penninsula unless they have some spanish blood.
AMAZIGH PEOPLE, AMAZIGH WERE IN IBERIAN PENINSULA EVEN BEFORE VISIGOTHS
Son pateras, por lo visto tampoco se libraron de las pateras
@Lily Ann de Cely 😂😂😂jealous w1tch
I'm going to have to listen again, but I thought they initially said that people arrived about the first century. We know that there was a thriving church across north Africa pre Islamic conquest. Maybe some were believers in The Way who were persecuted by the Romans and then some of their ancestors fled again before the Islamic armies, and had to keep secure fortresses to keep the Islamic slave traders out from conquest of the islands. So much north African civilisation lost at that time. Lack of written history, maybe destroyed by the Spanish? Tuaregs were Christian until that time.
and if they had resources but no ships, it was common to pay or retain a ship for service. "get us outta Dodge and do it now'!!! WE need a hideout. Casablanca 2,000 years ahead of time.
Nope, they had their own religion. They believed in Acorán, a sun-god.
I'm from the canaries, something we all have been taught in history classes is that there were two mayor waves of migration of these people from North Africa, 1. Before Christ which corresponded to the inhabitants of the western islands and the 2. After Christ with the populations of the eastern islands. Each islands had different cultures and different gods because they were politheist but there was always a Father God called in Tenerife Achamán, in GC Acorán and in La Palma Abora, so it might be sincretism from monotheistic cultures that first arrived during Roman period. Also, in Tenerife, the guanche kingdoms of the South adopted very quickly catholicism due to misinterpretations between the figure of The Virgin Mary (La Virgen de Candelaria) and the mother godess Xaxiraxi.
They were not christians at the time but some islands were partially christianized because of monks enclaves.
Definitely not destroyed by the Spanish. The ancient Canarians didn't preserve their writings, only on stones like the one in the video.
🧐 *Obviously* these people were Space Aliens!…
Read Graham Hancock.
Bueno,en Gran Canaria encontró su mayor desarrollo en unas cosas..en otras no..