Me too. I had always assumed there was a historic connection with the food canning business. Jago will be telling me Tinning Town is named after Sir Charles Tinning, Viceroy of Botswana next.
This area reminds me of the Dublin business district near the old docks where swanky new high rise offices are on one side of the road and Victorian houses are on the other.
Also the area along the edge of the Hudson River in eastern New Jersey (Jersey City, Weehawken, Pavonia, Exchange Place), where lots of individual railroads had passenger/freight terminals and ferry services into Manhattan (hence “Manhattan transfer”). The remaining services after the great postwar bankruptcies were either rerouted by the Pennsylvania Railroad tunnels into New York Penn or into the old DLW terminal at Hoboken, and the docks are now luxury condominiums or commercial buildings.
Actually! As you pointed your camera to the development across from Canning Town station to say that though Newham is the poorest borough it’s been getting some expensive new developments, that development is in Tower Hamlets. The border between the boroughs is right there at the station so that whole London City Island development isn’t in Newham. I’ve been airbnbing around Canning Town this month so I was really hoping to see myself walking around in this video somewhere 😅
As a resident of the royal dock area the place is getting a lot of new development, a whole range of brand new developments have gone up around the Gallions Reach area, and they are still building. So the area is definitely going receiving a lot of attention from developers. And looking at the prices they sure as hell aren't building them for the locals to buy...
The title reminds when a passenger, asked me, in poor English, how to get to 'Candinton'? I replied 'Sorry, was that Camden Town, Kennington or Canning Town'? 'Yes Plis' he said, 'near Statfad'. I assumed it must be Canning Town. Nice Video
It's always a good thing when a rail line has too many passengers and needs more capacity, especially thanks to the network effects that often follow expansion.
A bit of Canning Town trivia. In one shot you see Celia Hammond Animal Trust. Celia was a famous model in the 60s and was the girlfriend of Jeff Beck. I’ve also homed several cats from her.
When the North London line was diverted to North Woolwich,it bypassed Dalston Jct,going through the site of Kingsland station...the new Dalston Kingsland station was opened in 1983 on the site of the earlier station.
Pretty cool to see the place where you grew up. It's change beyond all recogniation. I lived there from 1980 to 2000. Much respect Mr Hazzard for these videos.
The usual situation of North Woolwich - officially part of Kent until 1965 - is explained by William the Conqueror gifting it to the Sheriff of Kent, so that he could benefit from the revenues of what would become the Woolwich Ferry.
The first time I went to London on a city break from Glasgow I stayed just next to Canning Town, found the DLR fascinating & listened to all the audio guides for each station. It’s what piqued my interest in the London rail system as a whole!
My parents were from East Ham, regarded as a lower middle class area back in the day, and Canning Town was definitely regarded as the wrong side of the tracks, so to speak. It will be interesting to see if Canning Town is uplifted, much as Stratford has been in recent times, another part of East London that was somewhat depressed.
The problem with uplifting areas in London these days is it usually happens by importing a small number of very rich people and/or companies. It isn't because ordinary people are getting better off. By contrast, in the 1950s/60s/70s/80s/90s ordinary people really were getting better off a lot of the time.
pre all the development I had a school friend who lived in the area and always said it was called Canning Town because of the tins of syrup made at the Tate and Lyle plant!
Thanks Jago for another fascinating video. I like in Britannia Village not far from Canning Town station and I knew some of the story you told but you brought the various strands together so succinctly. When we moved to the area in 1998 we very much felt like pioneers living on the edge of civilisation but so much has changed in the past 20+ years that we are now very well connected to the rest of London and beyond, especially when the Elizabeth line opens.
@@s125ish Not much. Construction of Britannia Village had only started a few years earlier and the other side of the dock where Excel and the hotels are now was a wasteland left from when the docks closed 20 years before. It's incredible how much some of the area has changed while parts of Canning Town along the Barking Road haven't changed much at all
I remember travelling from Canning Town to beckton on DLR. At the time I never realised how good of an experience it was. You didn’t bother mentioning that there is no driver on dlr trains. I will always sit right at the front which was amazing.
I've spent (what seems like) lots of time waiting at Canning Town. I always seem to get the timing for Woolwich DLR trains wrong although to be fair it's usually less than a 10 minute wait but not getting on the first two trains makes it seem longer :)
You mentioned Thames Ironworks quite early in this video Jago. What many people may not know is that their works football team went on to become West Ham United in later years. And that's why us fans of that team say "Come On You Irons" to this very day !! 😎
I had an American wife for a little while. Her mom was telling me that beans get you tooting like it was gross and funny etc. I said "what's wrong with Tooting?" and "I was a Tooting kid". I played offended. I had to explain the joke in the end. Americans do not know south London so well.
I used to pass via Canning Town to get the Jubilee Line after arriving on my weekly commute from central France! Taking the DLR was fun - do you remember Steve Bell used to mock it regularly in his cartoons giving it a ‘Boggler boggler’ sound caption!!
I really enjoyed this! I first went there back in the late 1990s whilst working on the Jubilee Line Extension project and went back a couple of years or so ago to work in some offices nearby on Crossrail. The area around the station has been transformed of late: I did wonder why the Jubilee Line was even stopping there, such was the decay and dereliction around the station twenty some years ago. Now the Limmo peninsula has been developed (was part of the shipbuilding yard) and wow!!
I just had my first ride from Lewisham to bank on the DLR. i can not think of the area ever been in decline it was incredibly sophisticated every view was space age. And l thought it was strange more lines didnt go through here
I have lived in Canning Town All my life and they are trying to remove us locals. The North London Line was renamed Silverlink for a few years Jago before the tracks from Stratford to North Woolwich was ripped up and nothing was done to it for a few years until the tracks was relaid for DLR to Stratford Non International station. At now demolished Canning Town Station by the Flyover I used to use that to go to work at the British Museum’s Depository at Osman Road so I used to get off at Dalston Kingsland. I also used to use the North London Line/Silverlink to go to Camden Road Station on a Saturday and you can still travel to Kew and Richmond if you had plenty of time on your hands. Happy Days Long Gone here.
You're correct about The Silver link line,.not sure why it got renamed. I have also lived in the area most of my life but who are trying to remove you?
I’ve lived in Canning Town for a couple of years. Had no idea there were trains to Camden not so long ago. Would like to be able to pick up a direct link like that from home. You have to go Stratford for Overground trains that go that far through North London now Are there many Londoners left in places like Newham with long generational roots in the area? I always got the the impression from my mum that her generation* moved out en masse East to places like Romford so that they could buy their first home of their own in the 70s *actual Baby Boomers, who are way older than a lot of people who get dismissed with the “ok boomer!” retort(!)
Another factoid: West Ham United was originally formed at the ship building factory at Canning Town: their nickname 'The Hammers' comes from riveting the ship hull plates.
This area is completely unrecognizable to me now. I seem to remember extensive sidings right next to the main road here in the 50/60s. I could be wrong, that's not unknown... Ta Jago.
Yes there were sidings at the former station north of Barking Rd and then further north towards Star Lane. The foot print of the current Wickes / former Carpet Right complex shows this from above.
Well, this probably means little or nothing to the rest of your viewers, Mr H, but although others were on this site before me, for the very first time I was the very first to 'like' one of your videos (although I am an enormous fan and have liked all of your production). When I say that I am an enormous fan, ... oh. never mind. Suit yourselves. Simon T
Canning Town, I had to change there twice daily on my way to, and from university; yes that dubious collection of strange buildings that apparently won an architectural award for design. I am certain I am not the only student that struggled to concentrate in my lessons because of planes taking off and landing in City Airport... 😕🤔😔😳
Can’t wait for the Stratford International video! I started getting really interested in train lines in about 2007, so this is something I followed with a keen interest! Love all your videos.
Tate and Lyle eventually took over the corn and soybean processor, A. E. Staley’s, in my hometown of Decatur, Illinois. Staley’s is probably best remembered for starting the U. S. football (American football not soccer) team that eventually became the Chicago Bears though it started as a company team.
Tate and Lyle opened a sugar refinery on Toronto, Canada's harbourfront in about 1957. It's now called Redpath Sugar and will probably be gone in a few years as it's now surrounded by condos. I sure didn't know that about "The beah's" mascot!
The Chicago Bears' Superbowl success in 1986 started a craze for American Football in England and made quarterback William "the Refrigerator" Perry something of a household name on this side of the Atlantic at the time. Association football (soccer) in England was going through its darkest hour,an existential crisis even,in the 1985-86 season following the Bradford and Heysel disasters.
@@rjjcms1 It was almost a foregone conclusion that the Bears were going to win in 86. The Refrigerator was something, and I'm not really much of a football fan.
You missed - I think- from the Newham archives comment "As Canning Town was in Essex it was not subject to Metropolitan Acts so new streets of houses were erected without drains or proper roads. Many of the people living here were casual, low-paid workers and there was widespread poverty. Without a proper water supply or sewage system, living conditions were bad, and diseases like cholera and smallpox easily spread." it says a lot about the area - but not as such if you had Made It - you went east - to Barking and settled in the larger houses there (while come the 1970s those from Barking were moving out to Basildon - and thanks to the LTS one could still work in the City from most of those places.
For a vivid fictional account of life in Canning Town from about 1900 to 1970, check out the novel "Holding On" by Mervyn Jones, first published in the early 1970s. Copies might be hard to find now.
There is a considerable amount of historical information and maps available (by appointment) in respect of Canning Town, the re-routing of the River Lee/Lea & the nearby East India Docks at the Newham Borough Archives located in the Stratford Library curated by a Lovely Lady called Jess Conway but I think she is only open on a Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday
I'm afraid the current station is actually number 4. It is close to the 1st, but before it opened the DLR Canning Town closed. In all fairness you might query that term (& the numbering) as it never actually opened, but l know that it did because l knew somebody who used it. Jack Wyse was editor for years of the Modern Tramway and Light Railway Magazine, and also president of the Norbury & South London Transport Club. He was also an Old Boy of Strand Grammar School, my father's old school. Dad was secretary of the (rather misnamed) Field Club, and every year Jack Wyse would run a tour showing the different plans & developments. As you observed, things were moving very quickly at the time of these works, and originally the plan (or perhaps the assumption) was that the Jubilee Line would use the 2nd station site, though presumably upgraded a la West Ham. Accordingly the DLR built a station just south of the A13 flyover to the east of the old railway bridge and on the curve as there was little space. On a press outing Jack Wyse stopped and stood on the platform, but before the line opened the far more sensible decision was made to open the transport hub and the station was obliterated. Although he informed us of the above facts he did not know exactly where the platform had been and l don't think access was ever actually established; there were paths across the site, but these had long been closed off, but could easily have been reutilised at least to give access. (I did actually access 1 of them to see if l could establish where the platform had been, but there was no evidence at all. Not relevant to the station story, but at some point you might like to comment about the amazing scheme to have 4 (ĺ think) bus lanes within the roundabout. I watched it being built & this time I saw it being removed but never saw it in operation. Thanks for your brilliant videos and sorry for such a long post
The Royal India Docks was due to the import of Tea / Coffee and Sugar was related to the slave trade of Africa and thereof. The Royal Africa Company’s logo is and Elephant and Castle. The links to Britain’s wealth is African and Asian folk. Memba me tell you
During the late 1970s I would often go to Canning Town but only because The Bridge House venue was located there. My travel card only covered the District Line and, so being cheap, I’d get off at West Ham and walk the rest of the way. Upon returning I was often tired and tipsy and didn’t even have a Walkman to keep my ears entertained. God knows how I survived such deprivation.
Ughh part of my daily commute from Upney to Canary Wharf on the District and Jubilee. To stop me completely loosing my mind I travel back from Canary Wharf on the Docklands to Limehouse and change onto the C2C to Barking then get a bus for variety !.
Greeting and best wishes for the continued success of you RUclips platforms (pun intended). It is rather bizarre, but nonetheless true, that I find your videos, and your typically English humour accompanying them, entirely enjoyable. I say bizarre as I only lived in London (indeed the UK) for the period of six years whilst at my prep in Westminster 60 years ago. 🇰🇪🇨🇦
Top video, Wrighty! Canning Town, my Canning Town Where the lights are low, Hearts that know no other land, Drifting to and fro. Dreamy dreamy Canning Town, Almond eyes of brown, Hearts seems light and life seems bright, In dreamy Canning Town.
Like one of the other bloggers, I too was disappointed that Canning Town had nothing to do with tinned foods. I can concur that the docks, in particular, the Isle of Dogs docks, were run down, not to say completely derelict. In 1982, I went from the imposing Tudor and Jacobean portraits of the Ranger's House in Blackheath down to the Greenwich Foot Tunnel. This led to Island Gardens, which boasted a cafe. From there I walked along the east side of the Isle of Dogs, over the entrance to the Blackwall Tunnel and eventually to Canning Town on the North London Line. Until the train drew in, I did not see another soul. Everything was boarded up - as you say, Jago, containerisation had won out - and stealing by dockers lost out.
As you mentioned LDDC, I thought wouldn't it be interesting if you maybe did a series on stations' film locations - like The Long Good Friday, Brief Encounters, The Ladykillers, Dennis Potter's Pennies from Heaven, The 39 Steps, et al. Must be loads of London locations worth, er, locating, in your own inimitable style? Postscript - Hobbs Lane, Quatermass - even fictional ones will do!
I always like to guess how jago will address his kofi and patreons… I guessed “you are the jubilee line to my failing London docklands” and I was ¾ right!!
My rehearsal studio is just down the road from the shot @ 2:10, was wondering if I'll ever show up in one of your videos! - I've got to say Canning Town along with most of South-East London has very... interesting architecture.
5:58 - Under running third rail? It would be worth doing a video about all the many incompatible power distribution systems in the area, or possibly in the entire UK. Same for coupler and MU types.
Yes, you see the DLR third rail which is covered (I think the idea was to protect it from the elements as it's nearly all outside but has the advantage that you can walk on the track with the power on. Which is useful for evacuations). The other is the third and fourth rail of the Jubilee line which from memory are at -200V and +400V DC - the difference giving 600V of power to the train. It's possible for a can to short out one rail and the trains to still get enough power. But the exact details escape me right now. Way too technical for this channel I think.
Canning Town is a lovely place in general. Good connection to pretty much anywhere from this station, and it's not hard to get to West Ham or Stratford to get anywhere else.
I think it says alot about a place when the highlight is how easy it is to get elsewhere. Canning Town is awful, violent, dirty. Poorly planned with too much new housing on busy roads, angled to deprive residents of privacy; a misaligned set of residents some achieving many just leaners. A council that doesn't understand the needs of residents and the new diversity (east europeans, Chinese, etc.) differ from earlier migrant groups let alone the indigenous white working class.
Despite three rail lines and a bus station at Canning Town, last time we went there were no working toilets. I had to hold it in until we got to Canary Wharf (and a long walk too).
There are /were toilets in the Bus Station above, but possibly one of the stinkiest, filthiest toilets I've had the misfortune to visit! I had a long bus journey from Canning Town and reluctantly used them, trying to wash my hands and get out by "shouldering" the swing doors.. You missed nothing, unless the Gents was any better!?
@@biddylisduff Sounds like I had a lucky escape! However I have used a toilet at Liverpool LS for number 2 which had no seat, no door and no light. Also, a toilet in a girls school in Nepal which you had to virtually swim through to reach the necessary. That's life!
Interesting to learn it was named for a Mr Canning - I had been presuming not a proper noun but a gerund - as in, a town where canned goods were produced...
I enjoy your videos a lot. Most informative. Is your video camera set to 30fps? There’s a judder on moving objects that appears when footage is 30fps and the video is setup as 25fps. It would be beneficial to set your camera to 25/50fps to match the video format you use here. I hope this is of some help. You are the entertainment to my dull existence. :)
@@iankemp1131 I guess you’ve never been on the DLR. The most rickety mode of transport in London. Throws you from side to side. Nearly broke my neck a few times
Double Decker? Surely several underground stations are laid out that way, but only visible on those wonderful cross sections that I recall from my youth. Maybe there is a video or three in that.
True, but a double decker above-ground station is much rarer, possibly unique. There are ones like Tamworth and Retford that cross at right angles but it's hard to think of one where the lines are parallel.
That bridge which is now painted red, was in 2007 blocked, and one end was in overgrown brush. Once it opened, I crossed once at night and even though I'm a big bloke I didn't do it again - no way that was safe with the dim lighting.
You must be the only person who mentions Thames Ironworks and then fails to mention what they founded (that was neither iron nor ship building). Can I also mention another site, of which I have no association with - John Rogers - who has slow and thoughtful walks of the East End? As your excellent videos have the speed of a speeding tube train his cover the social history at the speed of a well, a slow walker.
John Rogers is good however when he came to E16 he was very selective in his coverage (and facts) and somewhat demonished the modern housing and the residents thereof. Jago is comical facts, Rogers is poorly balanced editorial
I admit a bit of shock at the start of the video. The previous Tube station videos are all these nice old buildings, then WHAMMO! Canning Town's concrete bleak look smacks you in the face.
Canning Town is steeped in lots of history. And I quite like the station that is so easy to make interchange with. Even North Woolwich as well. This is why the London Docklands has changed in so many years and decades. I hate deleting my comments but I am getting very frustrated with the person who just will not leave me alone. And I think have been hacked or targeted by the person who can’t stop trolling me. And I get very anxious. I just want freedom to comment and to enjoy watching your videos without being harassed and bullied.
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I am profoundly disappointed to learn that Canning Town was never an area dominated by the industry of putting things in cans.
Like, for example, peaches?
@@typhoidtyphoon They were put there, by a man
Me too. I had always assumed there was a historic connection with the food canning business. Jago will be telling me Tinning Town is named after Sir Charles Tinning, Viceroy of Botswana next.
@@egpx And Woolwich Arsenal is named after a strip club.
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This area reminds me of the Dublin business district near the old docks where swanky new high rise offices are on one side of the road and Victorian houses are on the other.
Also the area along the edge of the Hudson River in eastern New Jersey (Jersey City, Weehawken, Pavonia, Exchange Place), where lots of individual railroads had passenger/freight terminals and ferry services into Manhattan (hence “Manhattan transfer”). The remaining services after the great postwar bankruptcies were either rerouted by the Pennsylvania Railroad tunnels into New York Penn or into the old DLW terminal at Hoboken, and the docks are now luxury condominiums or commercial buildings.
Actually! As you pointed your camera to the development across from Canning Town station to say that though Newham is the poorest borough it’s been getting some expensive new developments, that development is in Tower Hamlets. The border between the boroughs is right there at the station so that whole London City Island development isn’t in Newham.
I’ve been airbnbing around Canning Town this month so I was really hoping to see myself walking around in this video somewhere 😅
They are not the poorest anymore, at least since the 2012 Stratford regeneration! There has been a lot of private investment there too.
As a resident of the royal dock area the place is getting a lot of new development, a whole range of brand new developments have gone up around the Gallions Reach area, and they are still building. So the area is definitely going receiving a lot of attention from developers. And looking at the prices they sure as hell aren't building them for the locals to buy...
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The title reminds when a passenger, asked me, in poor English, how to get to 'Candinton'? I replied 'Sorry, was that Camden Town, Kennington or Canning Town'? 'Yes Plis' he said, 'near Statfad'. I assumed it must be Canning Town. Nice Video
It's always a good thing when a rail line has too many passengers and needs more capacity, especially thanks to the network effects that often follow expansion.
Canning Town - enough schemes even to have kept Mr Yerkes entertained.
Indeed, and now we have gentrification in the shape of those massive and expensive high rise developments.
A bit of Canning Town trivia. In one shot you see Celia Hammond Animal Trust. Celia was a famous model in the 60s and was the girlfriend of Jeff Beck. I’ve also homed several cats from her.
I trust that the cats like canned food.
When the North London line was diverted to North Woolwich,it bypassed Dalston Jct,going through the site of Kingsland station...the new Dalston Kingsland station was opened in 1983 on the site of the earlier station.
Ive watched this area since the mid 1990s, when I was a student in Woolwich. It’s changed massively, i think for the better.
loved the graphic with its "Not The Beatles one" label
Pretty cool to see the place where you grew up. It's change beyond all recogniation. I lived there from 1980 to 2000. Much respect Mr Hazzard for these videos.
The usual situation of North Woolwich - officially part of Kent until 1965 - is explained by William the Conqueror gifting it to the Sheriff of Kent, so that he could benefit from the revenues of what would become the Woolwich Ferry.
Fascinating. I'd supposed that the anomaly arose from the Thames changing it course, cutting through, leaving part of Kent north of the new channel.
*unusual
The first time I went to London on a city break from Glasgow I stayed just next to Canning Town, found the DLR fascinating & listened to all the audio guides for each station. It’s what piqued my interest in the London rail system as a whole!
My parents were from East Ham, regarded as a lower middle class area back in the day, and Canning Town was definitely regarded as the wrong side of the tracks, so to speak. It will be interesting to see if Canning Town is uplifted, much as Stratford has been in recent times, another part of East London that was somewhat depressed.
The problem with uplifting areas in London these days is it usually happens by importing a small number of very rich people and/or companies. It isn't because ordinary people are getting better off. By contrast, in the 1950s/60s/70s/80s/90s ordinary people really were getting better off a lot of the time.
This station complex is one of my favourites in London!
Love the green along the northbound walls
the upper level DLR was moved about 15 feet to the east when the Jubilee Line was built.
pre all the development I had a school friend who lived in the area and always said it was called Canning Town because of the tins of syrup made at the Tate and Lyle plant!
Canning Town is a properly busy station. The bus routes which feed into it, guarantee it will always be in demand.
just curious, will these bus routes be fed into the new crossrail station instead?
@@myonlydemandisbacktowork8759 at Custom House yes but not all of them
Thanks Jago for another fascinating video. I like in Britannia Village not far from Canning Town station and I knew some of the story you told but you brought the various strands together so succinctly. When we moved to the area in 1998 we very much felt like pioneers living on the edge of civilisation but so much has changed in the past 20+ years that we are now very well connected to the rest of London and beyond, especially when the Elizabeth line opens.
Was there any new flats or offices back in 1998?
@@s125ish Not much. Construction of Britannia Village had only started a few years earlier and the other side of the dock where Excel and the hotels are now was a wasteland left from when the docks closed 20 years before. It's incredible how much some of the area has changed while parts of Canning Town along the Barking Road haven't changed much at all
Masterly piece of synchronicity to get a bus coming into shot as you mentioned buses post war at 3.05. Excellent and informative as always. Thank you.
Came here to say just that!
@@ubergeekian Came here to ask when the DLR started carrying busses.
I remember travelling from Canning Town to beckton on DLR. At the time I never realised how good of an experience it was. You didn’t bother mentioning that there is no driver on dlr trains. I will always sit right at the front which was amazing.
I've spent (what seems like) lots of time waiting at Canning Town. I always seem to get the timing for Woolwich DLR trains wrong although to be fair it's usually less than a 10 minute wait but not getting on the first two trains makes it seem longer :)
You mentioned Thames Ironworks quite early in this video Jago. What many people may not know is that their works football team went on to become West Ham United in later years. And that's why us fans of that team say "Come On You Irons" to this very day !! 😎
Yep, im just down the rd ⚒
I was hoping he was going to say his Patreon members were the canning to his baked beans.
I had an American wife for a little while. Her mom was telling me that beans get you tooting like it was gross and funny etc. I said "what's wrong with Tooting?" and "I was a Tooting kid". I played offended. I had to explain the joke in the end. Americans do not know south London so well.
Love how thorough your commentary is 😎
I used to pass via Canning Town to get the Jubilee Line after arriving on my weekly commute from central France! Taking the DLR was fun - do you remember Steve Bell used to mock it regularly in his cartoons giving it a ‘Boggler boggler’ sound caption!!
Thanks again Jago, you certainly put the lid on that one.
I really enjoyed this! I first went there back in the late 1990s whilst working on the Jubilee Line Extension project and went back a couple of years or so ago to work in some offices nearby on Crossrail. The area around the station has been transformed of late: I did wonder why the Jubilee Line was even stopping there, such was the decay and dereliction around the station twenty some years ago. Now the Limmo peninsula has been developed (was part of the shipbuilding yard) and wow!!
I just had my first ride from Lewisham to bank on the DLR. i can not think of the area ever been in decline it was incredibly sophisticated every view was space age. And l thought it was strange more lines didnt go through here
I have lived in Canning Town All my life and they are trying to remove us locals.
The North London Line was renamed Silverlink for a few years Jago before the tracks from Stratford to North Woolwich was ripped up and nothing was done to it for a few years until the tracks was relaid for DLR to Stratford Non International station.
At now demolished Canning Town Station by the Flyover I used to use that to go to work at the British Museum’s Depository at Osman Road so I used to get off at Dalston Kingsland.
I also used to use the North London Line/Silverlink to go to Camden Road Station on a Saturday and you can still travel to Kew and Richmond if you had plenty of time on your hands.
Happy Days Long Gone here.
Love the ,London history ,sadly it's a very different London now ,expecialy removing all the local born people
You're correct about The Silver link line,.not sure why it got renamed. I have also lived in the area most of my life but who are trying to remove you?
I’ve lived in Canning Town for a couple of years. Had no idea there were trains to Camden not so long ago. Would like to be able to pick up a direct link like that from home. You have to go Stratford for Overground trains that go that far through North London now
Are there many Londoners left in places like Newham with long generational roots in the area? I always got the the impression from my mum that her generation* moved out en masse East to places like Romford so that they could buy their first home of their own in the 70s
*actual Baby Boomers, who are way older than a lot of people who get dismissed with the “ok boomer!” retort(!)
@@mushy3424 Silverlink was the franchise that took over the NLL, not the name of the NLL.
@@raritania7581 thanks!!
Another factoid: West Ham United was originally formed at the ship building factory at Canning Town: their nickname 'The Hammers' comes from riveting the ship hull plates.
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This area is completely unrecognizable to me now. I seem to remember extensive sidings right next to the main road here in the 50/60s. I could be wrong, that's not unknown...
Ta Jago.
I seem to recall a very long footbridge (week, long for a railway footbridge) crossing those sidings.
Yes there were sidings at the former station north of Barking Rd and then further north towards Star Lane. The foot print of the current Wickes / former Carpet Right complex shows this from above.
Well, this probably means little or nothing to the rest of your viewers, Mr H, but although others were on this site before me, for the very first time I was the very first to 'like' one of your videos (although I am an enormous fan and have liked all of your production). When I say that I am an enormous fan, ... oh. never mind. Suit yourselves. Simon T
Congratulations, Simon. Nice message.
Canning Town, I had to change there twice daily on my way to, and from university; yes that dubious collection of strange buildings that apparently won an architectural award for design. I am certain I am not the only student that struggled to concentrate in my lessons because of planes taking off and landing in City Airport... 😕🤔😔😳
UEL? Yes, the student digs there look like exactly the sort of buildings that would win an architectural award, and I don't mean that as a compliment.
Can’t wait for the Stratford International video! I started getting really interested in train lines in about 2007, so this is something I followed with a keen interest! Love all your videos.
I remember the very plain Canning Town station on the other side of the A13 on the North London Line from North Woolwich to Richmond.
In fact they have closed the access to A13 from canning Town after a nearby posh development
@@viktrader Um the mixed development by Notting Hill Trust? Subsidised housing and shared ownership yes, posh no.
Tate and Lyle eventually took over the corn and soybean processor, A. E. Staley’s, in my hometown of Decatur, Illinois. Staley’s is probably best remembered for starting the U. S. football (American football not soccer) team that eventually became the Chicago Bears though it started as a company team.
I had no idea that Staley (the Bears' mascot) was anything other than a made up name!
Tate and Lyle opened a sugar refinery on Toronto, Canada's harbourfront in about 1957. It's now called Redpath Sugar and will probably be gone in a few years as it's now surrounded by condos. I sure didn't know that about "The beah's" mascot!
I love that but theres some nonsense in your comment. You mention some made up nonexistent word 'socker' or something 😒
The Chicago Bears' Superbowl success in 1986 started a craze for American Football in England and made quarterback William "the Refrigerator" Perry something of a household name on this side of the Atlantic at the time. Association football (soccer) in England was going through its darkest hour,an existential crisis even,in the 1985-86 season following the Bradford and Heysel disasters.
@@rjjcms1 It was almost a foregone conclusion that the Bears were going to win in 86. The Refrigerator was something, and I'm not really much of a football fan.
Thank you so much for this video, It brought back many memories over the past 20 years of development of Newham and before that Canary Wharf.
Enjoyed this immensely. Thanks Jago.
You missed - I think- from the Newham archives comment "As Canning Town was in Essex it was not subject to Metropolitan Acts so new streets of houses were erected without drains or proper roads. Many of the people living here were casual, low-paid workers and there was widespread poverty. Without a proper water supply or sewage system, living conditions were bad, and diseases like cholera and smallpox easily spread." it says a lot about the area - but not as such if you had Made It - you went east - to Barking and settled in the larger houses there (while come the 1970s those from Barking were moving out to Basildon - and thanks to the LTS one could still work in the City from most of those places.
I truly enjoy your videos about my little part of the world!
A Jago day is always a good day, keep it up mate.
Great show as usual, TGW. And nice “moving train to moving train” shot!
This could be called: Canning Town³
Presumably the next Canning Town station iteration will be Canning Town: Resurrection?
🤔 But not Cubitt Town?
Thanks, again a really interesting video. Never knew tube lines could be made so interesting, will sit on them with a greater respect
For a vivid fictional account of life in Canning Town from about 1900 to 1970, check out the novel "Holding On" by Mervyn Jones, first published in the early 1970s. Copies might be hard to find now.
Last time I worked a train down there it was a 2 EPB
Well done once more Master J: exquisite editing at 3:04 to match your commentary!
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There is a considerable amount of historical information and maps available (by appointment) in respect of Canning Town, the re-routing of the River Lee/Lea & the nearby East India Docks at the Newham Borough Archives located in the Stratford Library curated by a Lovely Lady called Jess Conway but I think she is only open on a Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday
I'm afraid the current station is actually number 4. It is close to the 1st, but before it opened the DLR Canning Town closed. In all fairness you might query that term (& the numbering) as it never actually opened, but l know that it did because l knew somebody who used it. Jack Wyse was editor for years of the Modern Tramway and Light Railway Magazine, and also president of the Norbury & South London Transport Club. He was also an Old Boy of Strand Grammar School, my father's old school. Dad was secretary of the (rather misnamed) Field Club, and every year Jack Wyse would run a tour showing the different plans & developments. As you observed, things were moving very quickly at the time of these works, and originally the plan (or perhaps the assumption) was that the Jubilee Line would use the 2nd station site, though presumably upgraded a la West Ham. Accordingly the DLR built a station just south of the A13 flyover to the east of the old railway bridge and on the curve as there was little space. On a press outing Jack Wyse stopped and stood on the platform, but before the line opened the far more sensible decision was made to open the transport hub and the station was obliterated. Although he informed us of the above facts he did not know exactly where the platform had been and l don't think access was ever actually established; there were paths across the site, but these had long been closed off, but could easily have been reutilised at least to give access. (I did actually access 1 of them to see if l could establish where the platform had been, but there was no evidence at all.
Not relevant to the station story, but at some point you might like to comment about the amazing scheme to have 4 (ĺ think) bus lanes within the roundabout. I watched it being built & this time I saw it being removed but never saw it in operation.
Thanks for your brilliant videos and sorry for such a long post
Many thanks for these details - it's amazing to find out what is actually known but not available on the internest - at least up to now!
Very good video! Informative & enjoyed watching
We have a canning town railway station near kolkata India 🇮🇳 on the suburban railway network of kolkata 🤣🤣🤣
And there is a Cannington railway station on the Perth (western Australia) suburban network
I wouldn’t imagine there’s much difference nowadays 😂
The Royal India Docks was due to the import of Tea / Coffee and Sugar was related to the slave trade of Africa and thereof. The Royal Africa Company’s logo is and Elephant and Castle.
The links to Britain’s wealth is African and Asian folk. Memba me tell you
...and the stop before Canning Town is East India, of course 😂
Another brilliant video! Thanks!
During the late 1970s I would often go to Canning Town but only because The Bridge House venue was located there. My travel card only covered the District Line and, so being cheap, I’d get off at West Ham and walk the rest of the way. Upon returning I was often tired and tipsy and didn’t even have a Walkman to keep my ears entertained. God knows how I survived such deprivation.
The Bridge House was demolished to make way for the widening of the flyover in 2001
Ughh part of my daily commute from Upney to Canary Wharf on the District and Jubilee. To stop me completely loosing my mind I travel back from Canary Wharf on the Docklands to Limehouse and change onto the C2C to Barking then get a bus for variety !.
I walked that area with my best mate a few years ago, good to see some relics of its bygone age.
Always love these tales from the chube!
I would love to see a co-lab video with you and Geoff Marshall
Jago guards is anonymity fiercely.
@@eattherich9215 that’s a shame but I don’t blame him
I have been through canning town station many, many, many times. I remember the station long before the DLR!
I see your dig at Not The Beatles One. Keep up the hidden gems like this, is awesome !
Greeting and best wishes for the continued success of you RUclips platforms (pun intended). It is rather bizarre, but nonetheless true, that I find your videos, and your typically English humour accompanying them, entirely enjoyable. I say bizarre as I only lived in London (indeed the UK) for the period of six years whilst at my prep in Westminster 60 years ago. 🇰🇪🇨🇦
Great video!
I used to use the North London line/Silverlink Metro to get from Richmond to Canning town and bus to City Airport. It was like a scene from the Bronx.
I came here for eponymous reasons. Love it!
Love your videos how about one around limehouse if there's anything interesting around that area
Top video, Wrighty!
Canning Town, my Canning Town
Where the lights are low,
Hearts that know no other land,
Drifting to and fro.
Dreamy dreamy Canning Town,
Almond eyes of brown,
Hearts seems light and life seems bright,
In dreamy Canning Town.
Canary wharf Tower was the game changer for Newham, and the DLR served that.
Once again brilliant Map's 👍
Like one of the other bloggers, I too was disappointed that Canning Town had nothing to do with tinned foods. I can concur that the docks, in particular, the Isle of Dogs docks, were run down, not to say completely derelict. In 1982, I went from the imposing Tudor and Jacobean portraits of the Ranger's House in Blackheath down to the Greenwich Foot Tunnel. This led to Island Gardens, which boasted a cafe. From there I walked along the east side of the Isle of Dogs, over the entrance to the Blackwall Tunnel and eventually to Canning Town on the North London Line. Until the train drew in, I did not see another soul. Everything was boarded up - as you say, Jago, containerisation had won out - and stealing by dockers lost out.
As you mentioned LDDC, I thought wouldn't it be interesting if you maybe did a series on stations' film locations - like The Long Good Friday, Brief Encounters, The Ladykillers, Dennis Potter's Pennies from Heaven, The 39 Steps, et al. Must be loads of London locations worth, er, locating, in your own inimitable style? Postscript - Hobbs Lane, Quatermass - even fictional ones will do!
As Robert Duval might say "I love the smell of Bow Creek in the morning".
In 1979 a platform was opened at West ham to link it with North London line.
I always like to guess how jago will address his kofi and patreons… I guessed “you are the jubilee line to my failing London docklands” and I was ¾ right!!
Interesting stuff, especially as I live here!
Barking mad, if you ask me.
A video or two about the evolution of Stratford station would be great!
My rehearsal studio is just down the road from the shot @ 2:10, was wondering if I'll ever show up in one of your videos! - I've got to say Canning Town along with most of South-East London has very... interesting architecture.
We really need to see a Jago Hazzard and Geoff Marshall collab
3:03 Perfect editing.
My dad worked on the DLR extension to Beckton :). He went on to be involved in the Kings X refurbishment as well.
Canning Town, Canning Town.
Riding through the glen.
Canning Town, Canning Town
With a band of men.
Great video as usual. I would be interested to see the Stratford international video if you do it. 👍
5:58 - Under running third rail? It would be worth doing a video about all the many incompatible power distribution systems in the area, or possibly in the entire UK. Same for coupler and MU types.
Yes, you see the DLR third rail which is covered (I think the idea was to protect it from the elements as it's nearly all outside but has the advantage that you can walk on the track with the power on. Which is useful for evacuations). The other is the third and fourth rail of the Jubilee line which from memory are at -200V and +400V DC - the difference giving 600V of power to the train. It's possible for a can to short out one rail and the trains to still get enough power. But the exact details escape me right now. Way too technical for this channel I think.
Canning Town is a lovely place in general. Good connection to pretty much anywhere from this station, and it's not hard to get to West Ham or Stratford to get anywhere else.
I think it says alot about a place when the highlight is how easy it is to get elsewhere. Canning Town is awful, violent, dirty. Poorly planned with too much new housing on busy roads, angled to deprive residents of privacy; a misaligned set of residents some achieving many just leaners. A council that doesn't understand the needs of residents and the new diversity (east europeans, Chinese, etc.) differ from earlier migrant groups let alone the indigenous white working class.
One of my favourite vids, and not just because 'you are the Jubilee Line extension to my Canary Wharf' somehow sounds a bit cheeky. 😏
Here's very much looking forward to your Stratford International video.
Despite three rail lines and a bus station at Canning Town, last time we went there were no working toilets. I had to hold it in until we got to Canary Wharf (and a long walk too).
There are /were toilets in the Bus Station above, but possibly one of the stinkiest, filthiest toilets I've had the misfortune to visit! I had a long bus journey from Canning Town and reluctantly used them, trying to wash my hands and get out by "shouldering" the swing doors.. You missed nothing, unless the Gents was any better!?
@@biddylisduff Sounds like I had a lucky escape! However I have used a toilet at Liverpool LS for number 2 which had no seat, no door and no light. Also, a toilet in a girls school in Nepal which you had to virtually swim through to reach the necessary. That's life!
04:05 - The line was actually built to Dalston Kingsland not Junction. I have lived in Canning Town for 30 years. I do miss the silverlink
Interesting to learn it was named for a Mr Canning - I had been presuming not a proper noun but a gerund - as in, a town where canned goods were produced...
I was REALLY hoping to see myself in this video, since this is my home turf :D
I enjoy your videos a lot. Most informative.
Is your video camera set to 30fps? There’s a judder on moving objects that appears when footage is 30fps and the video is setup as 25fps. It would be beneficial to set your camera to 25/50fps to match the video format you use here.
I hope this is of some help.
You are the entertainment to my dull existence. :)
Jago's videos are normally smooth but the judder on this was noticeable at once. Glad DLR and Jubilee trains don't really run like that!
@@iankemp1131 I guess you’ve never been on the DLR. The most rickety mode of transport in London.
Throws you from side to side. Nearly broke my neck a few times
3:03 - very smooth indeed
Double Decker? Surely several underground stations are laid out that way, but only visible on those wonderful cross sections that I recall from my youth. Maybe there is a video or three in that.
Ah yes, fair point! Especially on the older deep-level lines.
True, but a double decker above-ground station is much rarer, possibly unique. There are ones like Tamworth and Retford that cross at right angles but it's hard to think of one where the lines are parallel.
@@iankemp1131 The DLR comes in from the west at right angle to the other tracks.
@@iankemp1131 Agreed, I think Canning Town is the only station above ground that is double decker. The Overground is still part of National Rail.
That bridge which is now painted red, was in 2007 blocked, and one end was in overgrown brush. Once it opened, I crossed once at night and even though I'm a big bloke I didn't do it again - no way that was safe with the dim lighting.
You must be the only person who mentions Thames Ironworks and then fails to mention what they founded (that was neither iron nor ship building). Can I also mention another site, of which I have no association with - John Rogers - who has slow and thoughtful walks of the East End? As your excellent videos have the speed of a speeding tube train his cover the social history at the speed of a well, a slow walker.
Why so coy about naming Thames Ironworks' famous offshoot?
John Rogers is good however when he came to E16 he was very selective in his coverage (and facts) and somewhat demonished the modern housing and the residents thereof. Jago is comical facts, Rogers is poorly balanced editorial
Yes, I'm a fan of John Rogers and Jago Hazzard! Different styles /emphasis but both interesting and educational.
Bravo sir, bravo, I really would like to buy you a pint in the near future as a way of thanking you!
I admit a bit of shock at the start of the video. The previous Tube station videos are all these nice old buildings, then WHAMMO! Canning Town's concrete bleak look smacks you in the face.
1 great jago. 👍🏻🇬🇧
Post-Covid, I am wondering of all those swanky offices will be filled?
I met a traveller from an antique land...
Only reason I would visit this station is on my way to MCM Comic con
Canning Town is steeped in lots of history. And I quite like the station that is so easy to make interchange with. Even North Woolwich as well. This is why the London Docklands has changed in so many years and decades.
I hate deleting my comments but I am getting very frustrated with the person who just will not leave me alone. And I think have been hacked or targeted by the person who can’t stop trolling me. And I get very anxious. I just want freedom to comment and to enjoy watching your videos without being harassed and bullied.