That's a really good upgrade to the OS. Just goes to show how good and versatile it is and I'm sure new things will come along all the time. I like how it still looks the same, only better in the background. Great shirt too. :-)
A great follow-up video! Glad you got the HDMI connection sorther out -- that is an amazing mod. Also, thank you for the t-shirt shoutout. The shirt looks great, btw. As mentioned on Twitter I have activated a discount code for your supporters. Buyers may use discount code *JAN10* at checkout to save 10% on their purchase. The code is valid through to June 30, 2021. Feel free to add the code to the video description.
Danke Jan das du noch ein Update gemacht hast. In dem Update welches ich gerade noch mache, ist das Loch im Denise Sockel größer. Aber auch ich konnte nach Stunden test keine erhöte Temperatur feststellen. P.S. Das ch in meinem Namen wird aber wie im ersten Video nicht als k ausgesprochen. 😁
Huch, dann hat jemand anderes sich über die Aussprache beschwert. Dachte, das seist du. Dann nochmal Entschuldigung! :D Temperatur blieb bei mir auch stabil lauwarm, und die Platine wurde gleichmäßig mit erwärmt, also findet da auf jeden Fall auch ordentlich Wärmeabfuhr statt. Wahrscheinlich schadet es nicht, ein größeres Loch einzubauen, aber mit dem kleineren sollte es auch keinerlei Probleme geben, denke ich.
A very attractive video. Thanks for the information how to , and a big thank you to the people behind who spent the time to bring us the best out for our machines. Bravo Jan. Amiga for Ever!!!!
Nice to see you got your HDMI and RAM issues sorted out. Yea the A600 needs a lot of help but once you get an accelerator running it will make a world of difference. Just make sure the FURIA you chose will be compatible with 3.2 the one I got was a nightmare with 3.1.4 where to get it to work I had to disable CPU Caches but later versions I am told were compatible with 3.1.4 and you could update the firmware on the older versions. OS3.2 is quite nice I have not played with it all that much but its faster to do an install on WINUAE which also gives you the opportunity to play with it before committing it to a Classic Machine and its very fast to install it off the CD be it on the PC Side or Amiga Side if you have a CD-ROM in your Amiga which I do but my preference for the past few years has been to install the OS in WINUAE where you can also move files you plan to use if you have them stored on a PC or network drive. Then you can just create an image of the card so that if you have a card failure you can create a new card and get back running. I try to make 1 card with everything I use on my different Amiga's so when I plug the card into an Amiga I just run the installation software. I am not into games but I always throw them on the card with WHDLOAD so that when my Grandkids come over for a visit they will have something to play with and they do like the old Amiga games but it may have more to do with playing them with me and when you have 5 Grand kids in different rooms playing games you do get one hell of a workout . I burn my own ROMs for everything at home and for work it's just easier for me unfortunately the downside is you should buy a bunch of EEPROMS because some can prove to be wonky due to their age. I have done OS Installs with a GOTEK in the past and it does work out well but the CD makes it painless and fast and again doing it in WINUAE is in my opinion the best way to setup a new card. I may try to set this up on a Pi since I have 4 Pi's in both my server racks one has Pi3B+ and the one I use most has Pi4's with both 4 and 8 gb.
Oh hey, that's a good idea running a windows VM to burn the EPROM. I switched to mac OS a while back and could never be bothered to figure out the command line utility, I just booted up my old desktop whenever I needed to burn a chip. I'm pretty sure I've got a spare old license for windows that I can use to create a VM, so that's probably a lot easier. Plus I can install an old copy of Eagle so I can access my old projects without booting my desktop too. Thanks for the idea!
25:00 I had a similar fault with missing 1MB of RAM and it turned out to be a motherboard fault. Near the 10uF cap there are some small vias and since the caps leak they corrode the vias nearby and cause a break in one of the signals leading to the edge connector and the Amiga doesn't see the 1MB expansion RAM card. So check the area around the 10uf smd cap at C612 for black (i.e. corroded) vias if the 1MB expansion is not seen. Alternatively trace all of the edge connector pins to where they are supposed to go and one of them will be disconnected somewhere and it will most likely be because of cap leakage. Even if the caps were replaced, if they leaked in the past the corrosion can happen later because it happens internally inside the vias.
Hallo Jan,Danke erstmal das du im Video zu meiner Fage geantwortet hast. (Turbokarte Furia) Jetzt wäre es noch Super wenn du die ganzen Komponenten auflisten könntest mit Links. Ich finde zb. nicht den DENIS Chip Adapter. Wäre echt Top,mach weiter so. Empfehle dich weiter (-:
Ich habe s auf Github unter jockel71 die Produktionsdaten für den Adapter. Gerberdaten zu PCBWay und in kurzer Zeit die Platine unbestückt bekommen. Dann laut Stückliste die Teile bestellen und selber löten. Fertig
@@joachimfirnhaber8729 Hallo Joachim,Danke für den Tip. Gibt es den nicht so ein Komplett Fertig Set zu kaufen? Du hast es doch Entwickelt oder? Lg Matze
I resurrected a (literally second-hand) A500 last year and I'm quite happy with it now (I'll get AmigaOS 3.2 later). Still, the Amiga I crave is the A2000 (revision 6+)
05:58 What does the sign in the back mean? "This plant has worked 10 days without a lost time accident". In other videos I noticed that the numbers were 12 and 13.
Hi Jan, Great video.... Thx. I have litle note... In new system's (from 3.1.4 is integrated new feature "long name" support) is not fully compatible FastFileSytem and now any defragmentation tool not work( reorg 3.11). P.S.: Sorry for my english and good luck.
The older UV-erasable EPROMs usually do have an ID, but I think in this case the mismatch is caused by the adaptor having to fake the pinout of a different chip.
OS 3.2 habe ich noch rumliegen. Ich habe die Eproms für meinen 1200er schonmal gebrannt und habe auch ein lauffähiges Image mit WinUAE erstellt, aber dann kamen immer neue Projekte und Basteleien dazwischen, sodass ich es bislang noch nicht ausprobiert habe. Ist ja cool, dass wirklich für alle Amigas ROM-Images auf der CD sind, damit kann ich endlich auch alle meine Amigas ohne den Kauf einer speziellen Version auf 3.2 upgraden ;) Hoffentlich hat Hyperion etwas an der Kompatibilität von CF- oder SD-Karten geschraubt, speziell der 600er ist ja sehr "picky", wenn er von einer CF-Karte lesen soll (speziell mit eingebauter Furia...) Meinen "4 in 1" Kickrom Baustein für den 2000er (ein 27C160) muss ich dann freilich auch nochmal neu machen - wird das ein Spaß :)
If you copy the library that is missing in the ROM to the old workbench disk then it should work. Or you use the switch to ROM 3.1. This should be compatible with the Workbench versions 1.x 2.x and 3.0 / 3.1. It even works with Workbench 3.1 on ROM 3.0
do you offer shorter versions of your videos for YT members? just asking, since it feels numbing to get an explanation 3 times, that you will not install glow icons due to the limited resources of the machine.
One of my go-to Workbench commodities is called FlushMemCX... with a key combination you can free up whatever libraries and other things are still lurking in the background eating your RAM. You shouldn't need a commodity for that, but it does help. :P
Anything above 27C32 would actually contain chip ID (identification number) regardless of age. Even some 27C32 marked as 27C32B have this. The need here to disable the ID check is that the eprom programmed is not 27C4096 but 27C400. The adapter makes sure for the correct pinout and programming algorhythm is similar so ID check is not nessesary.
Although you can erase EPROMs in sunlight, it takes a long time. In places with clear skies and low humidity then an EPROM might erase in direct sunlight in a day, possibly a shorter time to get corrupted, in humid countries like damp old England where I live it would take a week of excellent weather. EPROMs are erased by UVC light, which is in low proportion in most areas other than deserts or very sunny countries. The danger from light in your lab is minimal in comparison from static damage or other environmental factors. For long term safety of course a label over the window is sensible as even normal light will erase EPROMs over the course of years.
16:45 You can fix that by making a 1MB ROM. Newer Amigas like the A500+ and A600 fully support 1MB ROMs natively (no mods required) and on an A2000 you only need to add 1 wire, so make a 1MB ROM and never look back. Not making a 1MB ROM by default was a serious screwup by Hyperion. If they had provided a 1MB ROM it then contains the missing library files so you don't get any errors. People can't really complain about needing a 1MB ROM, simply modify the Amiga by adding 1 wire. If you can't handle that, you really should not be using a 30 year old computer. Try booting Battle Chess from floppy and see what happens... no boot because of missing libraries. You might want to do a future vid about making a 1MB ROM and the benefits it brings, including updating one of your Amigas like the A2000 to support 1MB ROMs.
The mounting plate isn't publicly available as far as I know, it was custom cut by one of the creators of this mod for me. Should be relatively easy to file a random piece of plastic into shape to act as a mounting plate though!
lol I had a dream that I accidentally shorted my C64 PSU and it was working BETTER afterwords. I was surprised I figured it would be dead. Kind of like your ram expansion.
lol my new computer doesn't have an optical drive. I am planning on getting a USB blu-ray burner eventually for mostly really old games. I would have to use my old computer to do this then. lol
Dangit. I need to do more testing to make sure the things I send you are properly broken, and don't just miraculously start working again. That is no fun.
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It's always nice to see the Amiga Installer app still in use. (I was a co-author of the first version.)
I always felt that the Amiga installer was quite ahead of it's time. In particular at the time when it was introduced there wasn't anything like it.
What a refreshing change, installing an operating system that doesn't serve ads as part of the user experience.
No annoying virtual assistant either.
Very informative! Getting excited, it looks like I will have an Amiga for the first time since the 90's in about 2-3 weeks.... I hate waiting!
That's a really good upgrade to the OS. Just goes to show how good and versatile it is and I'm sure new things will come along all the time. I like how it still looks the same, only better in the background. Great shirt too. :-)
Incredible the NEW things that are coming out for the Amiga, Love watching these videos and finding out about them. Thank you
Now i feel like throwing my amiga back on again! Thank you Jan!
Greetings, Doc64!
A great follow-up video! Glad you got the HDMI connection sorther out -- that is an amazing mod.
Also, thank you for the t-shirt shoutout. The shirt looks great, btw. As mentioned on Twitter I have activated a discount code for your supporters. Buyers may use discount code *JAN10* at checkout to save 10% on their purchase. The code is valid through to June 30, 2021. Feel free to add the code to the video description.
Great stuff Jan.
It wouldn't be Amiga if there weren't a few hiccups getting things to work. :)
Thank you. Amiga still alive!! :)
Danke Jan das du noch ein Update gemacht hast.
In dem Update welches ich gerade noch mache, ist das Loch im Denise Sockel größer. Aber auch ich konnte nach Stunden test keine erhöte Temperatur feststellen.
P.S. Das ch in meinem Namen wird aber wie im ersten Video nicht als k ausgesprochen. 😁
Huch, dann hat jemand anderes sich über die Aussprache beschwert. Dachte, das seist du. Dann nochmal Entschuldigung! :D Temperatur blieb bei mir auch stabil lauwarm, und die Platine wurde gleichmäßig mit erwärmt, also findet da auf jeden Fall auch ordentlich Wärmeabfuhr statt. Wahrscheinlich schadet es nicht, ein größeres Loch einzubauen, aber mit dem kleineren sollte es auch keinerlei Probleme geben, denke ich.
Un lavoro fatto davvero bene,sia l'HDMI,che l'aggiornamento hardware e software al 3.2,ottimo
G'day mate, I've jumped back on the Patreon wagon. Keep up the good work.
Crazy that they still work on these old systems and software
A very attractive video. Thanks for the information how to , and a big thank you to the people behind who spent the time to bring us the best out for our machines. Bravo Jan. Amiga for Ever!!!!
Love your shirt Jan, and thanks for posting the link to MindflareRetro's merch! Happy Retro Pride everyone!
Thanks Erin! Happy Retro Pride! ;)
Love your channel from sweden
Nice to see you got your HDMI and RAM issues sorted out. Yea the A600 needs a lot of help but once you get an accelerator running it will make a world of difference. Just make sure the FURIA you chose will be compatible with 3.2 the one I got was a nightmare with 3.1.4 where to get it to work I had to disable CPU Caches but later versions I am told were compatible with 3.1.4 and you could update the firmware on the older versions. OS3.2 is quite nice I have not played with it all that much but its faster to do an install on WINUAE which also gives you the opportunity to play with it before committing it to a Classic Machine and its very fast to install it off the CD be it on the PC Side or Amiga Side if you have a CD-ROM in your Amiga which I do but my preference for the past few years has been to install the OS in WINUAE where you can also move files you plan to use if you have them stored on a PC or network drive. Then you can just create an image of the card so that if you have a card failure you can create a new card and get back running. I try to make 1 card with everything I use on my different Amiga's so when I plug the card into an Amiga I just run the installation software. I am not into games but I always throw them on the card with WHDLOAD so that when my Grandkids come over for a visit they will have something to play with and they do like the old Amiga games but it may have more to do with playing them with me and when you have 5 Grand kids in different rooms playing games you do get one hell of a workout . I burn my own ROMs for everything at home and for work it's just easier for me unfortunately the downside is you should buy a bunch of EEPROMS because some can prove to be wonky due to their age. I have done OS Installs with a GOTEK in the past and it does work out well but the CD makes it painless and fast and again doing it in WINUAE is in my opinion the best way to setup a new card. I may try to set this up on a Pi since I have 4 Pi's in both my server racks one has Pi3B+ and the one I use most has Pi4's with both 4 and 8 gb.
Kickstart 3.2 - which is now confusing the Amiga scene a bit really, as KS3.2 was actually used in the Amiga Walker prototype machine back in 1996.
I want to see what they do after they run through AmigaOS 3.4.
Oh hey, that's a good idea running a windows VM to burn the EPROM. I switched to mac OS a while back and could never be bothered to figure out the command line utility, I just booted up my old desktop whenever I needed to burn a chip. I'm pretty sure I've got a spare old license for windows that I can use to create a VM, so that's probably a lot easier. Plus I can install an old copy of Eagle so I can access my old projects without booting my desktop too.
Thanks for the idea!
You make me blush with your kind words about my video, Jan! 😊😊
25:00 I had a similar fault with missing 1MB of RAM and it turned out to be a motherboard fault. Near the 10uF cap there are some small vias and since the caps leak they corrode the vias nearby and cause a break in one of the signals leading to the edge connector and the Amiga doesn't see the 1MB expansion RAM card. So check the area around the 10uf smd cap at C612 for black (i.e. corroded) vias if the 1MB expansion is not seen. Alternatively trace all of the edge connector pins to where they are supposed to go and one of them will be disconnected somewhere and it will most likely be because of cap leakage. Even if the caps were replaced, if they leaked in the past the corrosion can happen later because it happens internally inside the vias.
Super informative, thank you!
And can you still close up the machine with the pi inside then?
Yes, it fits perfectly!
Hallo Jan,Danke erstmal das du im Video zu meiner Fage geantwortet hast. (Turbokarte Furia) Jetzt wäre es noch Super wenn du die ganzen Komponenten auflisten könntest mit Links. Ich finde zb. nicht den DENIS Chip Adapter. Wäre echt Top,mach weiter so. Empfehle dich weiter (-:
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auf Github unter jockel71 die Produktionsdaten für den Adapter. Gerberdaten zu PCBWay und in kurzer Zeit die Platine unbestückt bekommen. Dann laut Stückliste die Teile bestellen und selber löten. Fertig
@@joachimfirnhaber8729 Hallo Joachim,Danke für den Tip. Gibt es den nicht so ein Komplett Fertig Set zu kaufen? Du hast es doch Entwickelt oder?
Lg
Matze
that's crazy they still update the OS
Thanks for another great video! I think I need an Amiga. . .
Thanks! Yes, everybody needs an Amiga, obviously! :D
I resurrected a (literally second-hand) A500 last year and I'm quite happy with it now (I'll get AmigaOS 3.2 later).
Still, the Amiga I crave is the A2000 (revision 6+)
Interesting, great that you fixed the HDMI. I wonder what compatibility issues there are for software written for Amiga OS 3.5 & 3.9.
I have never looked into 3.5/3.9 so I have no idea unfortunately. But my guess is that most of the software should work despite the differences.
05:58 What does the sign in the back mean? "This plant has worked 10 days without a lost time accident". In other videos I noticed that the numbers were 12 and 13.
I love the commodore pride shirt!
Hi Jan,
Great video.... Thx.
I have litle note...
In new system's (from 3.1.4 is integrated new feature "long name" support) is not fully compatible FastFileSytem and now any defragmentation tool not work( reorg 3.11).
P.S.: Sorry for my english and good luck.
Ah, thanks for pointing that out! Makes sense that some older disk tools won't work correctly with the long filename support.
Great video!
Thank you!
Jan, did you try using the Command Line tool for the Minipro?
The older UV-erasable EPROMs usually do have an ID, but I think in this case the mismatch is caused by the adaptor having to fake the pinout of a different chip.
Thank you!
OS 3.2 habe ich noch rumliegen. Ich habe die Eproms für meinen 1200er schonmal gebrannt und habe auch ein lauffähiges Image mit WinUAE erstellt, aber dann kamen immer neue Projekte und Basteleien dazwischen, sodass ich es bislang noch nicht ausprobiert habe. Ist ja cool, dass wirklich für alle Amigas ROM-Images auf der CD sind, damit kann ich endlich auch alle meine Amigas ohne den Kauf einer speziellen Version auf 3.2 upgraden ;) Hoffentlich hat Hyperion etwas an der Kompatibilität von CF- oder SD-Karten geschraubt, speziell der 600er ist ja sehr "picky", wenn er von einer CF-Karte lesen soll (speziell mit eingebauter Furia...) Meinen "4 in 1" Kickrom Baustein für den 2000er (ein 27C160) muss ich dann freilich auch nochmal neu machen - wird das ein Spaß :)
I am waiting for a PIstorm and A600 adaptor to arrive from Europe
Let us know what accelerator is being considered.
If you copy the library that is missing in the ROM to the old workbench disk then it should work. Or you use the switch to ROM 3.1. This should be compatible with the Workbench versions 1.x 2.x and 3.0 / 3.1.
It even works with Workbench 3.1 on ROM 3.0
Love your shirt
Thanks!
33:03 Thanks to all involved! :)
Where can I order the acryllic holder and the internal hdml set - could your provide some links / peroduct info
Jan beta i seen similar thing happen to one of my ram sticks. It was weird that that thing started to just work.
It's wild to see windows XP running virtually on a Mac to put a new OS on an Amiga.
do you offer shorter versions of your videos for YT members? just asking, since it feels numbing to get an explanation 3 times, that you will not install glow icons due to the limited resources of the machine.
You're free to use the right arrow, or double tap right at any time.
Judging from the browsing around that you did it appeared that there might be a memory leak in this new version of workbench.
One of my go-to Workbench commodities is called FlushMemCX... with a key combination you can free up whatever libraries and other things are still lurking in the background eating your RAM. You shouldn't need a commodity for that, but it does help. :P
Anything above 27C32 would actually contain chip ID (identification number) regardless of age. Even some 27C32 marked as 27C32B have this. The need here to disable the ID check is that the eprom programmed is not 27C4096 but 27C400. The adapter makes sure for the correct pinout and programming algorhythm is similar so ID check is not nessesary.
The current model of the XGecu programmer T56 can burn the AM27C400 out of the box.
Although you can erase EPROMs in sunlight, it takes a long time. In places with clear skies and low humidity then an EPROM might erase in direct sunlight in a day, possibly a shorter time to get corrupted, in humid countries like damp old England where I live it would take a week of excellent weather. EPROMs are erased by UVC light, which is in low proportion in most areas other than deserts or very sunny countries. The danger from light in your lab is minimal in comparison from static damage or other environmental factors. For long term safety of course a label over the window is sensible as even normal light will erase EPROMs over the course of years.
Hi Jan, thank you very much for this interesting video :-) Can you help us understand how to find the rgb2hdmi adapter for the Amiga 600? Thanks
16:45 You can fix that by making a 1MB ROM. Newer Amigas like the A500+ and A600 fully support 1MB ROMs natively (no mods required) and on an A2000 you only need to add 1 wire, so make a 1MB ROM and never look back. Not making a 1MB ROM by default was a serious screwup by Hyperion. If they had provided a 1MB ROM it then contains the missing library files so you don't get any errors. People can't really complain about needing a 1MB ROM, simply modify the Amiga by adding 1 wire. If you can't handle that, you really should not be using a 30 year old computer. Try booting Battle Chess from floppy and see what happens... no boot because of missing libraries. You might want to do a future vid about making a 1MB ROM and the benefits it brings, including updating one of your Amigas like the A2000 to support 1MB ROMs.
the amiga os 3.2 - can download the rom and the workbench files ? from somewhere or do i have to buy it ? thanks....
Does anyone know where one can buy that HDMI mounting plate for this? I can't seem to find one.
The mounting plate isn't publicly available as far as I know, it was custom cut by one of the creators of this mod for me. Should be relatively easy to file a random piece of plastic into shape to act as a mounting plate though!
Ugh. I hope I have more than 2 megs in my Amiga 3000. Amiga OS 3.2 is already waiting to be installed, including ROMs from Alinea.
If I remember correctly, the A3000 came with 2MB (1MB chip and 1MB fast) from the start. Should work fine.
lol I had a dream that I accidentally shorted my C64 PSU and it was working BETTER afterwords. I was surprised I figured it would be dead. Kind of like your ram expansion.
A quicker and easier way to install Workbench is to put the SD card into Windows and use WinUAE to setup the harddrive.
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13 dislikes? Were they hoping for Turrican footage?
can i download this or buy it? thanks....
Is any one working on the same for the 1200
lol my new computer doesn't have an optical drive. I am planning on getting a USB blu-ray burner eventually for mostly really old games. I would have to use my old computer to do this then. lol
Anybody tried a PiStorm 600 with this kind of RGBtoHDMI? Do they fit at the same time?
I see that this 3.2 workbench is eating a lot of chip-ram while you're using it
Hmm, das könnte ich meinem 600er auch mal antuen🤓
Kann ich empfehlen. Vor allem der RGBtoHDMI Mod ist großartig! :)
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RE: "Amiga 3.2 is new" -- you're aware we have AmigaOS 4.1 for modern Amigas, right?
A working 'tool' is still useful.
Dangit. I need to do more testing to make sure the things I send you are properly broken, and don't just miraculously start working again. That is no fun.
At least I assumed it was properly broken at first! I still don’t trust it too much so there might be another video about it at some point… ;)
@@JanBeta ahh, come on there are bigger fish to fry :P :D
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Love the shirt :)
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Even after all these decades the Amiga 600 has not lost its awesome power to disappoint. It's literally useless.
AMIGA productive?! Seriously!
oh i love the shirt, it's very good, need me one 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
The link to Mark‘s store is in the video description. ;)