In real world trucks, double clutching is an option. For an instance, i “float” my gears and I run a Eaton 18 speed trans in a 2020 Peterbilt 389 Glider kit. I only touch the clutch when starting and stopping. It is tricky at first for a beginner, but it gets easier on down the line. Love the videos Squirrel. Keep it up.
yeah ! I'm doing my HR (heavy rigid) atm in AUS and they told us this but have to learn the Double clutch technique and do it on the test then they said you will learn to Float gears etc .
As a truck driver .. i recommend saving your self a step on your range by "pre-selecting" your range after you shift to fourth. The range will change as you shift to 5th
I drove for A Company 10 speed Shift Assist Where the splitter Is was Shift assist Take your Foot Off of the Fuel Hold In Up Or down On the Splitter The truck would Help you shift at the correct RPM That took some Getting used to
Great video Squirrel. You lay things out so professionally and simple. I was weary of buying this shifter because I saw an earlier review while it was still in Kickstart and the person in review said he had to open the shifter and put zip ties to hold wires in place. Looks like they've worked that out so you sold me on it. Thanks!
aGamingMonkey Not as hard as you might think. No doubt it takes practice, but you use the tact to up shift, speedo to downshift. (15 mph 1+5 is 6... 6th gear, 45 mph 4+5 is 9.... 9th gear.) Most of your issues happen between 6-3, stopping and not dropping to low range or missing a gear as you're coming to a stop. If you can't find a gear, shift into "Super Six".
they do it shockingly well my Dad used to drive them for a living and one of the hardest yet coolest yet at same time easyest gear boxes he said he ever drove had about 28 gears or more if count all the ranges of reverse 3 different ranges and a spliter as well to split all gears in to hi and lo lol and gear box was difficalt due to having to have revs just right i mean almost dead on but he said he loved the gear box also due to the fact if you got the revs just right could even change gear with no Clutch at all lol trucks are mad as hell but also cool as hell
on american trucks you float them, on european you barely ever start from gear 1L ussually it goes gear 2L 3L 4L 4H 5L 5H 6L 6H depending on the load, if empty you don't use L gears since you don't need them then.
I started driving our thirteen speed Eaton when I was 13 and my dad always told me that the clutch is only used for starting and stopping. and probably the most rewarding time I had was when I was 14 and I had the hired had that was a softmore at bsc and I was driving the truck and he struggled at driving it and I just flew threw the gears and he was just sitting his pants
the 18-speeds that I've driven, you don't have to clutch or move the stuck in order to split shift, you just move the split selector switch, then drop off the accelerator.
No, the clutch is not used for splitting. Its actually just a separate 2 spd gearbox that is always in mesh with the transmission. An Eaton 9, 13, and 18 are the same transmission, just with (13 & 18) or without the auxiliary box. Only other difference is splitting both ranges or just the top.
It's actually stated by Eaton fuller in their manuals the splitter on a 13/18 can not be switched while clutched or in neutral, all selections must be done under load in gear prior to releasing the throttle. Once you release the throttle the splitter automatically shifts though to ease the wear Eaton recommends tapping the clutch after releasing the throttle.
@@baileyjohanson9758 You don't need to be a "top operator" to move your splitter toggle forward and letting off the accelerator. The older 13 speeds you had to tap the clutch to split but the newer models are easy as pie.
Hey Squirrel. This really helped me sort out my 18 speed shifter. Thank you for putting in the time to get this up and posted. I am up and trucking now full advanced and all. reminds me of the days i was rolling with the 18 speed Kenworths.
I enjoy trucking so much I made it my career. Started out driving an old Ford Aeromax L9000 with an Eaton Fuller 9 speed. Loved that truck. Since I've driven Kenworths with 13 and 18 speeds. But now I'm driving a Freightliner Columbia with a 10 speed and really loving it. I wish they had a 9 speed in ATS so I could somewhat relive that experience.
The tip I would suggest is in addition to the RPM gauge the RPM difference in 10-speed Eaton between gears is usually 400rpm. Another thing you can do is use the Speedometer.. in MPH (Not kilometers) just add the numbers together 15mph (1+5=6th gear), 25mph (2+5=7th gear), etc. so by the time you hit 55mph you should be in 10th.
This is awesome! I just went through trucking school and I've played lots of ats with a controller before but man I can't wait until I can get a wheel setup and one of those Eaton Fuller shift knobs, that's so cool! Haven't driven anything except a 10 speed so far, so with one of those I could finally experience the 13 and 18!
I remember during the stream there was a camera on the controller and one for the facecam, some day I would like to see that again. I enjoyed the video and I love it
Thank you for working on and making this project come to life. I bought my first cemi driving truck a few weeks ago. Being the Truck Driver sim. And using the control pad for Xbox one has some sketchy steering control. Will a gamer wheel smoothen out the steering any better?
Squirrel, Truckers don't have to double clutch they do a process called floating gears. The only time they use the clutch is to start out and roll, but after they get rolling and shift to the next gear they just get it to there preferred RPMs, let off the gas, and shift to the next gear. If the trucker doesn't get the RPMs high enough they just have to push in the gas until it pops in gear. When they take there CDL test they are required to double clutch just so they know how to do it. At least that is how it is in montana and that is how it was for my dad and my brother. I don't truck for a living I pilot so euro truck and American truck are amazing games and quite realistic. Great video though you are the person who inspired me to go get the race wheel, pedals. and gear box. Then I saw this video and now I am going to get the shifter.
Some countries require you to learn how to double clutch, not to mention its also important because its a trans brake as well, so good to know how to do it properly before just floating.... or attempting to float like most do hahaha
I try to challenge myself by only using the clutch when I start moving, never at any other time. You should switch to advanced gearbox setting in options and learn floating gears. (Shifting with no clutch) downshifting is tricky and a believe you need to be a bit more precise than in a real truck but it's what a lot of truckers do.
Not more precise but it's harder to tell how close your rpms are to the driveshaft speed. In a real truck you can literally feel how close you are to the correct rpm. Loads easier in real life to shift.
Not too difficult, just preload the shifter into the lower or higher gear, then rev match until the shifter sticks in. The real challenge is to shift without losing revs to shift into the next year, you hear a lot of trucks with lots of time used between shifts where they're generating literally no power until they're into the next gear, then they drag the gear out as long as possible.
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I need this. I work on semis here in the US and I get to drive them all the time. I go from that straight home and play ATS with the same wheel and shifter you have. Been a long time subscriber and you never disappoint. You introduced me to ETS years ago xD I'm still hooked on these games. Now I stream ATS on occasion and my friends and girlfriend watch.
In a real 18 speed when you split your gear you don't take it out of gear. You simply slide the splitter forward, let off on the fuel, let the RPMs drop a bit, and go back in to the accelerator. Also you don't spit low range unless you are heavy loaded and climbing a steep grade. The splitter button is color coded. Gray: 18-speed Blue: 15-speed Red: 13-speed 9 (sometimes called an 8-speed), 13, and 18 are all related and shifted very similarly The 10 has you go into the "pocket" which is the low position for 5th gear. A 15 is based on a 10. You generally shift it like a 10-speed, but it has five gears of deep reduction.
Not true I drive a real truck and we float gears..... Meaning we use the clutch as little as possible, start and stops. That double clutch is only when u test/ training! The transmission is synchronized meaning u get the RMP's in the right range no clutch needed!
Upshifting is actually pretty easy. You just have to let the RPM drop the right amount and engage the gear. It is about a 250RPM drop for a single gear (ie 5H to 6L) or a 500RPM drop for a double gear change (5L to 6L). It is pretty much a matter of timing things right more than anything else to be consistent with it. Downshifting is a bit trickier since you have to give it a bit of throttle before putting it in gear from neutral.
Thankyou so much, we kept setting Reverse (we couldnt work out where to set LL) and it was buggering everything up. Not setting reverse and setting 1st gear to far upper left was the fix.
Very nice tutorial, thank you so much. I'm very new to manual in general, and just got my wheel+shifter with some other addon for ETS, not SKRS. And now I can finally understand the truck shifting.
I enjoyed this review, very accurate, especially to the non-truck driver. As a rock hauling dump truck driver, I say you are spot on with your description and operations. I drive a mack 18 speed and I wanted to post a picture of the shifter I use. Is there a way to post a pic here or facebook? Also, I only use the clutch to start and stop the truck, not sure if this could be replicated in the sim.
Back in the early 90's driving gravel truck, an older guy I worked with used to split into the low gear on the 13 speed. He called it the "no no gear". He said he could get just a bit more jam out of a truck when it was fully loaded.
@@fadez6504 I know you don't have to but, in the Eaton Fuller manuals it says to always preselect the range before the shift. I tend to follow the Mfg's directions. I like my truck on the road making money not in the shop costing it.
@@fadez6504 No. Your ARE supposed to Pre select your high rage once you get into 4th before moving into 5th gear if you would actually drive a real truck you would know that son.
I’m just saying...I’m a Cummins tech in Louisiana. We rebuild these eatons. Y’all can drive them however you want to preselected gears or not. When they start having problems. Give me a shout. Lol
You would leave it in gear to change range let off throttle and reapply and the air would switch the trans from low to high obviously watching your rpm to make it goes into that gear and you would do the same for down shifting but after you let off you would bring rpm up till gear drops in no grinding should happen
Thanks for the video! I just got one similar to this for ats and quickly realized I have no idea how to shift a semi 🤷♂️😂 I’d been using the regular car style h pattern
Depending on transmission and engine. Freightliner (what I am most familiar) is 1000 to 1500 rpm and gear down at 800 and gear up at 1500... (wish SCS would get freightliner in the game already) Also does ATS do clutch control or do you have to give it gas to go at first? (I have a older wheel with a sequential shifter and no clutch)
In a real truck changing gears with the splitter works a bit differently. I am not sure if it will work in game. If you are in foe ex 1L and you want 1H, you flip the switch. nothing will happen. As soon as you engage the clutch the 1H will be selected. this will work for every gear.
I ended up buying one of these and have had it for a year. I love it. Once mounted it is best to leave it alone as taking it off and on could damage the wires, but I use it as my shifter handle all the time. I know he had trouble with his supplier of Logitech adaptors, but I love my CSIO tech SKRS. The Thrustmaster does not use the allen or hex set screw. It simply tightens down with a large jam nut.
I've been a trucker for decades and I can tell you all that dropping numbers like 250 RPM's or 500 RPM's is not AT ALL how you calculate upshifting or downshifting. EVERY SINGLE engine and transmission combination is different. 1.) If you have a Deutz, CAT, Cummins, Detroit etc then their behavior and revolution range is very different from one another. 2.) Another thing that matters is size. 7.3L (ie CAT 250hp in a single axle day cab) or up to a 16L (could be 500hp up to 1200hp) for a tandem or tri-drive highway tractor. Usually the larger the pistons or the stroke being greater means the lower the RPM range. 3.) The transmission matters for gear ratio. A 9-speed, 10 speed (for city trucks) or up to a 13-speed or 18-speed (for highway trucks) will also differentiate the rpm range for shifts and rev matching for down shifts.
In real life I drive a 600hp Freightliner with an 18speed Eaton Fuller. I hardly ever use the split in the low range so essentially I drive a 13 speed. I do not use the clutch when changing gear, I change with engine revs between 1400 and 1600 rpm and have no problem. When carrying heavier loads I may let the revs climb a little but never higher than 1800. When down shifting you give the engine a rev while the box is in neutral to match engine revs to where they will be when the lower gear is engaged making for a smoother change.
I'm a truck mechanic and i know that your is right with the gear setup. I prefer the 18 over the 13. just because you have a lot more choice in how much power and traction that ETS2 and ATS dont show. I think this is fanatic over all. Thanks Squrril for the review.
@Hawker75 engineer and former trucker here. if you time shifts correctly, it does not damage anything. but if you miss gears and grind them, it causes progressive damage. there is no impact on fuel efficiency either method. automated manuals shift without the clutch, since they are so precise it is not needed.
Hi squirrel, just a small correction. The splitter, u dont need to get the speed out to pass it.(i may be wrong for the US gearboxes but i dont think so) On any european truck, u set for example the 4th low, than u push the splitter to get in high, stay in speed and just activate the clutch down and back up, and the speed will pass in 4th high. ;-) Anyway, nice tuto
Johan Öhgren XD, poor yankees ;-) If i am right( it was more than 30years ago now lol) on my father's scania 141 it was allready that way and the gearbox was not synced yet
Shame the shifter deant have force feedback. I can't imagine not feeling the actual gears when shifting a manual. That said, floating is a thing, and in a Sim it just seems like it would be a little tedious. I suppose you'd get used to it and be able to shift by audio feedback... Maybe a subwoofer tuned to rumble according to the rev could be a way to make it a little closer to the feel of the real thing... Anyway, thanks for the content.
I can't believe I have played ATS for 2 years with a shifter knob and not thought to turn on that "shifter toggle uses switch mode" before.. god it was annoying as all hell to have to double flip the range and splitter buttons to change modes. I feel like such a moron, but know I am loving my ATS a million times more! I can honestly say with all the people I have watched set up their devices i have never seen anyone turn this on or even mention it. You sir are amazing and thank you for pointing this option out!
Someday I'll get a wheel - they're so damned expensive though. I'll definitely want this shifter knob as well. I feel like I'm missing on a big part of the experience with ATS/ETS2 using an XBox One controller.
I recently got into this game, don't know why... Started with keyboard, now I'm using a controller. Huge difference! Did you get the wheel yet? How much has the experience changed?
Squirrel, there is no need to give gas while starting the truck, in real life you would never do this unless your really a noob because it burns up the clutch. The smoothest start is always by just letting go of the clutch slowly in a stronger gear, Lo, 1st with a load. 2-4th no load without giving it gas since the gear is low enough and the engine is strong enough to provide the torque to start rolling. I have a 18 speed truck and without a load(bobtail) i shift it like a 8 speed, with normal loads i shift it like a 13 speed, i only start using the Lo range splitting when pulling a b-train or so up a hill and i don't want to bog down the engine. Try also learning to float the gears. I never double clutched ever, except when i did my driving tests, because it's mandatory, I only adjust my clutch 2-3 times a year and I work in the city, while my drivers which do double clutch need their clutch adjusted every month. Floating the gears is simply shifting without the clutch, it is possible in the game but easier in real life, you just need to match the revs really well, when up-shifting, give it like .5 of a second before shifting to the next gear, if you ever miss a gear just give it gas, let go and try to put it into gear again, When downshifting, I like to use the clutch to just to get it out of the gear to put it into neutral, then blip the throttle to raise the revs then put it into a lower gear. This is the hardest part but eventually you will learn which rpm's work for what ever gear. Also Never split or change the range while going in reverse. In the game you can, but in a real truck you'll mess up the transmission, there's a big notice on the shifter layouts you put up. Finally like explained before when switching from high to low or low to high range , u don't need the clutch , just let go of the throttle for half a second and give gas again, in a real truck if you don't let go for long enough you can catch the selector mid gear and break something. :)
I don't know if that would work in the game, because in ETS2 a stronger truck with a normal and 14 speed gearbox (3 gears +range, splitter +splittable crawler) should be able to start from 2L, but it can barely start from C1...
You have to clutch and neutral the trans to split up or down? Every gearbox in Europe can preselect and split at depression of the clutch for... 30 years or more?
Nope, 13/18 can merely split em by moving the splitter and letting off the throttle, then reapplying throttle. Same with shifting from gear to gear, Don't need to use the clutch to change gears.
it's way easier than that in mercedes trucks! you usually start in 2nd or 3rd then you change to 5th gear which can be where 5th is in a car upper right, or it can be a "karate" box which you have to flip over to the next set of gears and 3rd's place is now 5th's place :)
my god im gratefull for european gearboxes, in the volvo i drive with manual, it is a h patter without where 6th/r would be on a car, so 1/4 - 2/5 and 3/6 and u can ofc split them
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very good tutorial.. you should be a trainer at a real life truck school.. as I trucker it makes me feel good to see how serious you guys take the truck sim games, keep up the virtual truckin!
+Swaff Corps (Theswaff699) Very old and rare. Some were behind the Buzzin Dozen Detroit V12 diesels with twin sticks. Others were double H in Mercedes trucks. But I've never seen them and had to look it up. I guess it's possible to map it on the sticks for the game but it'll be a pain. Besides do we need more than 18? I mean the 18 speed Eaton-Fuller has an 14:1 first low gear ratio...that gets every load in game moving very well...not like they have mods for over 120,000lb loads.
+Ratkill9000 actually I found a mod that's 170,000 pounds, it was a Siemens transformer mod, after the last update it quit working though. and a 5x4 transmission would just be another excuse for me to buy another thrustmaster shifter.
+Zane Kubicek Why settle for 21 gears. The truck I learned to drive in had 30 (10 spd RR + 3 spd joey box). I've even seen an old B model Mack with 50 gears (5spd joey)
When you use the splitter from l to h you don't go back neutral keep for foot in the throttle slide the splitter forward release the throttle then get right back in the throttle to go to low bring throttle back to half flip the splitter to low and press throttle to full that's how it works in real world
It looks like a nice tutorial, but how are you changing the way you are looking in the game. It has been a question i have been wondering for a while, do you use a mouse to do that or do you have buttons set up for that? And if you have buttons for that, can you also make a tutorial for that?
He uses a Track IR (like blade. said) which monitors (tracks) where his head is IRL using infrared LED's and sensors (IR) and converts it into in-game head movement...it gives all axis movement; x, y and z, and also pitch yaw and roll (tilting your head).
If it gets you from point A to point B what does it matter i dont understand you american truckers with your floating pride xD Clutch is there because its meant to be used aint it? I'd rather double cluth than rape the gearbox when you dont get the rpm's right
@@BrowncoatInABox only miss the gear double clutching if your too slow. And its really not hard to double clutch considering your only using half the clutch when your on the go. With that being said, your not gunna rape a gear box floating because until the truck has reached its sweet spot the gear isnt going to move unless your pretending to be the hulk changing gears.
@@Sakkeboy272 It's what we like to call "Super Truckers" Basicly truckers who think their hot shit because they've been driving for x amount of years or how fast they can shift their KW
The 18 speed I learned in, the half gears you don't need to shift to neutral. Shift up you flick the selector and press and release the clutch, that shifts you to the half. You then flick it back and change up to the next gear as normal. My rule was up in half's, down full's. so if I found myself in a half gear when shifting down, I just went down to the next half gear, made matching the revs so much easier.
If you plan to order one from CSIO Tech, do not expect to receive it within the two to three weeks like they say. I ordered mine a month ago and have not received it as of yet. I sent them an email asking about when I can expect to receive my order with no response. I also left two messages by phone. I understand that they are a small outfit but what does it take to send a quick message to a client. if you do order one, do not pay it in full.
I was going to do this to warn others to not burn their money as well. Currently I am waiting for over 3 months since the order was placed, and as you said, no communication. In fact the communication from the company have been ceased, and they aren't even answering their phone anymore either. In short, they have most likely put too little margin from the sales of devices to cover shipping and parts to make new shifters, and they are now out of funds and can't even ship them (They spent your shipment money to get more parts to make more shifters basically.) So most likely CSIO tech is now about to go belly up, there is also the problem with the shifters arriving broken, in those cases you will have to pay to ship it back IF you get a response to your RMA claim. In short, avoid this company for now unless you want to lose your money.
i ordered mine in march and havent herd shit i emailed them about over month age just asking when i could expect to hear something and no answer now after reading this im thinking i never will now i have seen some one els making a nice verson on ebay for 90 i wanna find a review on it
Squirrel, you're a bloody full-time RUclipsr, with all respect, where's the videos, you won't achieve a lot in your career with such a little amount of content. Good luck.
+UB8Gaming I don't want a shit ton of videos, but his channel is growing very slowly, and I wish he managed it in a way that would make it grow quicker. He said himself he wants to make daily vids.
If you want to do quality you can't do quantity. He wouldn't be a full-time youtuber if he wouldn't make enough money with it. Plus he also has a twitch with streams 3 times a week.
I am from the future this one is around 45 bucks now on Amazon. But you are correct a sim set up should not cost more than the real thing. In many cases it does. I see people spend 5 to 7 k on a sim rig. do they not know a Miata is a great real race car and costs less?
As a former trucker in America, after a bit we don't even touch the clutch we just float the gears, but at the end of the day make sure that you are in control of that truck, if that means you push the clutch down twice every time, then go for it, just make sure you're in control of that vehicle
Bought mine about 3 weeks ago, order still processing but it takes as long as it takes, I'll wait. :) Thanks for the answers guys, I really appreciate it!
Actually Americans speak proper English... think about it... Europeans came over here in the 1700s before England started speaking with an accent and changing the language
You are the only person who has been able to explain the SKRS 13 and 18 speed shift patterns while adding the game settings. I finely understand this, (you the man Squirrel) happy trails to you, tks.
That's a very fair price- Squirrel himself has said that the reason why equipment is so expensive is because it's niche and only a small audience will sport wheels or joysticks.
No kidding , I want this so bad but I can not justify a knob with 2 buttons on it worth paying that kind of money for it. if only it was a far more reasonable 50.00 and I did not even look at the shiping that's just pure bs.
none of you have any idea what goes into this product. shipping? yes, a little high but i live in america so its no problem for me. thats nothing they can control, they've tried. they have to machine the adapter, buy the knob, wiring, switches, screws, every little bit and piece that you dont even think about. go to the store and put it together yourself and i bet you have close to $100 if not more and you still have to put it together.
Wait... What? There's a simulator of my job? Lmao! Y'all are doing this for fun? Why not get your CDL and get paid? Oh. Because you'll realize just how much this job sucks. xD
Canadian Pepe The act of driving these trucks is actually pretty fun. The challenge of maneuvering 80' of truck within 2° of straight and 3" of center is fun as hell. Maneuvering that much truck around crackhead drivers who don't know their head from their ass? Dissent story entirely.
XxSynphulGryphxX My dad use to do trucking, but he said it was fun as hell the only time it sucked was having to deal with people on the road, your customers were dicks, and that a lot of times he would get fired for the smallest shit. For example, he got fired because he wasn't suppose to arrive early but his dispatch never told him and so he got fired, end of story.. He had to even pay for damaged for this driver who brake checked him on then highway (I was with him) and yea... I would love to do this job myself but I wouldn't like to risk to deal with today's society on the road XD
XxSynphulGryphxX well ever since I was little I dreamed of working for my dad I’m 15 and still do I can’t drive trucks atm but for the past 5-7 years I’ve been operating equipment for him like Exvacators bobcat / skidsteer and a loaded
Just for the record instead of the split ranges being labeled as low and high they can also be labeled Under and Direct, or Direct and Over depending on whether or not your truck transmission is equipped with overdrive. And if you want to see confusion then take a look at the shift pattern for a 20 speed Spicer.
I know I'm 5 years late, but honestly 6+4 Spicers are quite simple when you take a look at them for a few minutes. e.g. from a standstill, 1+1, 1+2, 1+3, 2+2, 2+3, 2+4, 3+2, 3+3, 3+4, 4+2, 4+3, 5+3, 6+4 and you're up to speed (I think that's how it would work as some gear combinations overlap and for some reason 5+4 is faster than 6+3, even though 6 and 4 are both overdrive and 5 and 3 are direct.
Great tutorial, mate spot on. I can't wait to get my wheel and my SKRS shifter. I just hope I've bought the right one as it looks a bit different....being an ex wagon driver, I'm looking forward to getting back behind the wheel. 🙂
Also, you don't need to pull out from the gear to split. And most importantly: *you NEVER move the range lever in neutral!* This game sucks for allowing you to do that.
You can move the range lever in any shifter position you want but it`s not gonna change the range until the shifter is in Neutral, this coming from Eaton themselves and several trainers.
You also have a hidden gear as well, that if your Not a truck driver you wouldn’t know about it. The Hidden Gear is Hi-Range but you put the gear stick in The Low, which is directly below the Reverse gear. I’m a truck driver in real life and I use this hidden gear all the time. We use it at times in City driving when you want to just casually roll along in heavy traffic conditions or coming off a hill is always a good gear ratio and yes you can split that gear as well, but once you want to select a higher gear, leave the side splitter knob in Hi and select 5th gear.
I use my Th8a shifter and I use gear 7 as my range selector so 1-6 the 7 to split then 7-12 the split then 13-18....it’s super fun and don’t need this adapter...just the Th8a 7 speed shifter does it all...I also get 3 reverse gears with this setup..it’s super fun. Love my Th8a
In real world trucks, double clutching is an option. For an instance, i “float” my gears and I run a Eaton 18 speed trans in a 2020 Peterbilt 389 Glider kit. I only touch the clutch when starting and stopping. It is tricky at first for a beginner, but it gets easier on down the line. Love the videos Squirrel. Keep it up.
Same
same but with a 10 speed
yeah ! I'm doing my HR (heavy rigid) atm in AUS and they told us this but have to learn the Double clutch technique and do it on the test then they said you will learn to Float gears etc .
As a truck driver .. i recommend saving your self a step on your range by "pre-selecting" your range after you shift to fourth. The range will change as you shift to 5th
And I deeply appreciate you breaking down the shifting patterns for us. You do not understand how much this helps me out.
Just so you know when splitting from Hi/Low you don't have to pull it out of gear. You just let off of the fuel peddle and it does it automatically.
I drove for A Company 10 speed Shift Assist Where the splitter Is was Shift assist Take your Foot Off of the Fuel Hold In Up Or down On the Splitter The truck would Help you shift at the correct RPM That took some Getting used to
Great video Squirrel. You lay things out so professionally and simple. I was weary of buying this shifter because I saw an earlier review while it was still in Kickstart and the person in review said he had to open the shifter and put zip ties to hold wires in place. Looks like they've worked that out so you sold me on it. Thanks!
Every time I forgot how to set up my shifter, I come to your channel and review this video to refresh my memory!!
Thank you!!
Got mine with the Easyjake installed, love it, really well made.
Gary Allen can you mention your gears name and brand? Appreciated
all i hear is Jeremy Clarkson going" gear 1, 1 and a half, 2, 2 and a half. How do truckers do this?"
aGamingMonkey guess why truckers hate cars that forces them to slow down. It's all you said and.... repeat!
aGamingMonkey
Not as hard as you might think. No doubt it takes practice, but you use the tact to up shift, speedo to downshift. (15 mph 1+5 is 6... 6th gear, 45 mph 4+5 is 9.... 9th gear.) Most of your issues happen between 6-3, stopping and not dropping to low range or missing a gear as you're coming to a stop. If you can't find a gear, shift into "Super Six".
aGamingMonkey after a while you get use to it but when you drive for a while you won't have to use the clutch
they do it shockingly well my Dad used to drive them for a living and one of the hardest yet coolest yet at same time easyest gear boxes he said he ever drove had about 28 gears or more if count all the ranges of reverse 3 different ranges and a spliter as well to split all gears in to hi and lo lol and gear box was difficalt due to having to have revs just right i mean almost dead on but he said he loved the gear box also due to the fact if you got the revs just right could even change gear with no Clutch at all lol trucks are mad as hell but also cool as hell
on american trucks you float them, on european you barely ever start from gear 1L ussually it goes gear 2L 3L 4L 4H 5L 5H 6L 6H depending on the load, if empty you don't use L gears since you don't need them then.
I started driving our thirteen speed Eaton when I was 13 and my dad always told me that the clutch is only used for starting and stopping. and probably the most rewarding time I had was when I was 14 and I had the hired had that was a softmore at bsc and I was driving the truck and he struggled at driving it and I just flew threw the gears and he was just sitting his pants
bad ass
the 18-speeds that I've driven, you don't have to clutch or move the stuck in order to split shift, you just move the split selector switch, then drop off the accelerator.
RichMaxwell
That is driving with no clutch only top operators can do that
No, the clutch is not used for splitting. Its actually just a separate 2 spd gearbox that is always in mesh with the transmission. An Eaton 9, 13, and 18 are the same transmission, just with (13 & 18) or without the auxiliary box. Only other difference is splitting both ranges or just the top.
It's actually stated by Eaton fuller in their manuals the splitter on a 13/18 can not be switched while clutched or in neutral, all selections must be done under load in gear prior to releasing the throttle. Once you release the throttle the splitter automatically shifts though to ease the wear Eaton recommends tapping the clutch after releasing the throttle.
@@baileyjohanson9758 You don't need to be a "top operator" to move your splitter toggle forward and letting off the accelerator. The older 13 speeds you had to tap the clutch to split but the newer models are easy as pie.
Davids right, you preselect, back off the gas then reaply the gas. you dont need to touch the clutch.
Hey Squirrel.
This really helped me sort out my 18 speed shifter. Thank you for putting in the time to get this up and posted. I am up and trucking now full advanced and all. reminds me of the days i was rolling with the 18 speed Kenworths.
I enjoy trucking so much I made it my career. Started out driving an old Ford Aeromax L9000 with an Eaton Fuller 9 speed. Loved that truck. Since I've driven Kenworths with 13 and 18 speeds. But now I'm driving a Freightliner Columbia with a 10 speed and really loving it. I wish they had a 9 speed in ATS so I could somewhat relive that experience.
I Have seen some 9-speed transmissions Mods In steam workshop than Map your Shifter Like A 9 Speed
Scuirrel, PLEASE, do more videos with your Wheel and Shifter showing.
PLEASE!!!
Also, great work :)
The tip I would suggest is in addition to the RPM gauge the RPM difference in 10-speed Eaton between gears is usually 400rpm. Another thing you can do is use the Speedometer.. in MPH (Not kilometers) just add the numbers together 15mph (1+5=6th gear), 25mph (2+5=7th gear), etc. so by the time you hit 55mph you should be in 10th.
This is awesome! I just went through trucking school and I've played lots of ats with a controller before but man I can't wait until I can get a wheel setup and one of those Eaton Fuller shift knobs, that's so cool! Haven't driven anything except a 10 speed so far, so with one of those I could finally experience the 13 and 18!
i know this is an old video, but a big thank you for helping me understand in a clear an concise way how the truck gear box works. big help!
14:18 in the mirror a helicopter flys past xD
I have Spanish homework to do but I’m gonna procrastinate and watch RUclips
I remember during the stream there was a camera on the controller and one for the facecam, some day I would like to see that again. I enjoyed the video and I love it
Just set up my Fanatec shifter, and now I'm loving driving with it instead of auto. Thanks!
SQUIRREL ROCKS!!!
Thank you for working on and making this project come to life. I bought my first cemi driving truck a few weeks ago. Being the Truck Driver sim. And using the control pad for Xbox one has some sketchy steering control.
Will a gamer wheel smoothen out the steering any better?
Brilliant videos Squirrel, learnt a few key things since watching the Train Sim videos! The trucking videos are amazing
I'm getting a G920+Shifter Tomorrow and this helped me understand way better than any other video. Thank You!!
Squirrel,
Truckers don't have to double clutch they do a process called floating gears. The only time they use the clutch is to start out and roll, but after they get rolling and shift to the next gear they just get it to there preferred RPMs, let off the gas, and shift to the next gear. If the trucker doesn't get the RPMs high enough they just have to push in the gas until it pops in gear. When they take there CDL test they are required to double clutch just so they know how to do it. At least that is how it is in montana and that is how it was for my dad and my brother. I don't truck for a living I pilot so euro truck and American truck are amazing games and quite realistic.
Great video though you are the person who inspired me to go get the race wheel, pedals. and gear box. Then I saw this video and now I am going to get the shifter.
Some countries require you to learn how to double clutch, not to mention its also important because its a trans brake as well, so good to know how to do it properly before just floating.... or attempting to float like most do hahaha
In Texas they don’t care lol just stay in your lane and learn to parallel park truck and trailor here’s ur id
I try to challenge myself by only using the clutch when I start moving, never at any other time.
You should switch to advanced gearbox setting in options and learn floating gears. (Shifting with no clutch) downshifting is tricky and a believe you need to be a bit more precise than in a real truck but it's what a lot of truckers do.
Not more precise but it's harder to tell how close your rpms are to the driveshaft speed. In a real truck you can literally feel how close you are to the correct rpm. Loads easier in real life to shift.
Matthew Kelley b
Not too difficult, just preload the shifter into the lower or higher gear, then rev match until the shifter sticks in. The real challenge is to shift without losing revs to shift into the next year, you hear a lot of trucks with lots of time used between shifts where they're generating literally no power until they're into the next gear, then they drag the gear out as long as possible.
LukasLRG *This is not hate towards the creator but the company (CSIO) isn’t giving people their orders it’s been a year + for some people they don’t answer twitter, phone messages or email please do not waste your money! I hope this helped someone and please copy and paste this so others know this company is a scam!*
aplusbsoftware does a SKRS styled shifter, it sells on amazon, I ordered one last week, got it yesterday. Support them instead.
Thanks to all of you for your advice. I told my son about the mega shifter, we are now waiting for it to arrive! Thanks again!
Awesome! You will be extremely satisfied! I'm a current MegaShifter user. Ordered August 14, 2017, Received September 1, 2017. Have had no issues.
I need this. I work on semis here in the US and I get to drive them all the time. I go from that straight home and play ATS with the same wheel and shifter you have. Been a long time subscriber and you never disappoint. You introduced me to ETS years ago xD I'm still hooked on these games. Now I stream ATS on occasion and my friends and girlfriend watch.
In a real 18 speed when you split your gear you don't take it out of gear. You simply slide the splitter forward, let off on the fuel, let the RPMs drop a bit, and go back in to the accelerator. Also you don't spit low range unless you are heavy loaded and climbing a steep grade.
The splitter button is color coded.
Gray: 18-speed
Blue: 15-speed
Red: 13-speed
9 (sometimes called an 8-speed), 13, and 18 are all related and shifted very similarly
The 10 has you go into the "pocket" which is the low position for 5th gear.
A 15 is based on a 10. You generally shift it like a 10-speed, but it has five gears of deep reduction.
Not true I drive a real truck and we float gears..... Meaning we use the clutch as little as possible, start and stops. That double clutch is only when u test/ training! The transmission is synchronized meaning u get the RMP's in the right range no clutch needed!
I have heard it's possible to float gears in ATS, I guess I'll have to wait til I get mine and test it XD
I've seen that done, my sister's ex would do it.
+Effen Bamm it's possible to do it in game, but goddamn is it tricky to get right.
Upshifting is actually pretty easy. You just have to let the RPM drop the right amount and engage the gear. It is about a 250RPM drop for a single gear (ie 5H to 6L) or a 500RPM drop for a double gear change (5L to 6L). It is pretty much a matter of timing things right more than anything else to be consistent with it.
Downshifting is a bit trickier since you have to give it a bit of throttle before putting it in gear from neutral.
Hehe, and just for giggles going from 5L to 6H is a 1000 rpm drop, or vice versa, don't ask me how I know.
Thankyou so much, we kept setting Reverse (we couldnt work out where to set LL) and it was buggering everything up. Not setting reverse and setting 1st gear to far upper left was the fix.
Very nice tutorial, thank you so much. I'm very new to manual in general, and just got my wheel+shifter with some other addon for ETS, not SKRS. And now I can finally understand the truck shifting.
I enjoyed this review, very accurate, especially to the non-truck driver. As a rock hauling dump truck driver, I say you are spot on with your description and operations. I drive a mack 18 speed and I wanted to post a picture of the shifter I use. Is there a way to post a pic here or facebook? Also, I only use the clutch to start and stop the truck, not sure if this could be replicated in the sim.
jstil44 you drive a 18 speed maxitorque? That’s what I drive and that transmission is a piece of shit
when is trucking diaries EU coming?.. we have been waiting well over a month.. could you please address it in the next bid?
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Back in the early 90's driving gravel truck, an older guy I worked with used to split into the low gear on the 13 speed. He called it the "no no gear". He said he could get just a bit more jam out of a truck when it was fully loaded.
You made my head hurt this video... Good job!!
when you realize squirrel has no idea how shifting a semi works
Right? Match revs when you begin to drive? Never done that in a other 10, 13, nor 18.
@@90cat1 that and double clutching all the time, good way to shred a clutch pack early
@@thagrasshoppa1 not really true... yes I prefer to float too but Eaton recommends you double clutch
@@sethscarlett2914 who follows the reccomended operating procedures anyways
@@thagrasshoppa1 the smart ones 😂
In a real truck you switch the range while still in gear then make the shift to the next range.
@@fadez6504 I know you don't have to but, in the Eaton Fuller manuals it says to always preselect the range before the shift. I tend to follow the Mfg's directions. I like my truck on the road making money not in the shop costing it.
@@fadez6504 No. Your ARE supposed to Pre select your high rage once you get into 4th before moving into 5th gear if you would actually drive a real truck you would know that son.
Always preselect your gear....over 1.5 million miles of actual road done here...
I’m just saying...I’m a Cummins tech in Louisiana. We rebuild these eatons. Y’all can drive them however you want to preselected gears or not. When they start having problems. Give me a shout. Lol
You would leave it in gear to change range let off throttle and reapply and the air would switch the trans from low to high obviously watching your rpm to make it goes into that gear and you would do the same for down shifting but after you let off you would bring rpm up till gear drops in no grinding should happen
Thanks for the video! I just got one similar to this for ats and quickly realized I have no idea how to shift a semi 🤷♂️😂
I’d been using the regular car style h pattern
Thankyou so much Squirrel for the discount on the 18 Speed Custom Shifter. Your the best :D
Depending on transmission and engine. Freightliner (what I am most familiar) is 1000 to 1500 rpm and gear down at 800 and gear up at 1500... (wish SCS would get freightliner in the game already)
Also does ATS do clutch control or do you have to give it gas to go at first?
(I have a older wheel with a sequential shifter and no clutch)
In a real truck changing gears with the splitter works a bit differently. I am not sure if it will work in game. If you are in foe ex 1L and you want 1H, you flip the switch. nothing will happen. As soon as you engage the clutch the 1H will be selected. this will work for every gear.
You don't need to engage the clutch, with a fuller 18 speed you just let off the accelerator after toggling the splitter.
@@WilliamStewart1 yeah, the guy you qouted obviously dont drive. gotta love youtube armchair drivers lmao
I ended up buying one of these and have had it for a year. I love it. Once mounted it is best to leave it alone as taking it off and on could damage the wires, but I use it as my shifter handle all the time. I know he had trouble with his supplier of Logitech adaptors, but I love my CSIO tech SKRS. The Thrustmaster does not use the allen or hex set screw. It simply tightens down with a large jam nut.
Can you tell me how to buy this
That is a beautiful W-series Kenworth. My favorite. I love the W900.
I've been a trucker for decades and I can tell you all that dropping numbers like 250 RPM's or 500 RPM's is not AT ALL how you calculate upshifting or downshifting. EVERY SINGLE engine and transmission combination is different.
1.) If you have a Deutz, CAT, Cummins, Detroit etc then their behavior and revolution range is very different from one another.
2.) Another thing that matters is size. 7.3L (ie CAT 250hp in a single axle day cab) or up to a 16L (could be 500hp up to 1200hp) for a tandem or tri-drive highway tractor. Usually the larger the pistons or the stroke being greater means the lower the RPM range.
3.) The transmission matters for gear ratio. A 9-speed, 10 speed (for city trucks) or up to a 13-speed or 18-speed (for highway trucks) will also differentiate the rpm range for shifts and rev matching for down shifts.
Scrotum Monster I’ve always used the tone of the motor I’ve never really used rpms to shift
In real life I drive a 600hp Freightliner with an 18speed Eaton Fuller. I hardly ever use the split in the low range so essentially I drive a 13 speed. I do not use the clutch when changing gear, I change with engine revs between 1400 and 1600 rpm and have no problem. When carrying heavier loads I may let the revs climb a little but never higher than 1800. When down shifting you give the engine a rev while the box is in neutral to match engine revs to where they will be when the lower gear is engaged making for a smoother change.
Bob Higgison lemme guess, dd16 in it? Ever have to change those plastic jokes they call hose clamps?
Dd16 and 600hp would be a time bomb on all them cheap parts lol
Agreed. I drove an old Eaton O pattern for years. Only used the clutch to stop or go...
I'm a truck mechanic and i know that your is right with the gear setup. I prefer the 18 over the 13. just because you have a lot more choice in how much power and traction that ETS2 and ATS dont show. I think this is fanatic over all. Thanks Squrril for the review.
and I don't use a clutch unless I'm stopping or starting. I float my gears going up or down.
@Hawker75 are you mad? Its perfectly fine for the transmission, and probably only affects fuel by a few mpg
@Hawker75 engineer and former trucker here. if you time shifts correctly, it does not damage anything. but if you miss gears and grind them, it causes progressive damage. there is no impact on fuel efficiency either method. automated manuals shift without the clutch, since they are so precise it is not needed.
I was looking to buy the Logitech version as well, but will it work with the Logitech G920?
Yea just make Sure you got a g920 shifter it Will work on that.
Still waiting for mine 2years later. Con artist csio
Great video and you explained things so easy. Thank You
Hi squirrel, just a small correction.
The splitter, u dont need to get the speed out to pass it.(i may be wrong for the US gearboxes but i dont think so)
On any european truck, u set for example the 4th low, than u push the splitter to get in high, stay in speed and just activate the clutch down and back up, and the speed will pass in 4th high. ;-)
Anyway, nice tuto
Frederic Cantigneau yeah, I noticed this too, but it might be different in an yankee truck since they still haven't discovered synced gearbox.
Johan Öhgren
XD, poor yankees ;-)
If i am right( it was more than 30years ago now lol) on my father's scania 141 it was allready that way and the gearbox was not synced yet
Johan Öhgren EF gearboxes are synchronized but they were specifically designed with clutch less operation in mind
Shame the shifter deant have force feedback. I can't imagine not feeling the actual gears when shifting a manual.
That said, floating is a thing, and in a Sim it just seems like it would be a little tedious. I suppose you'd get used to it and be able to shift by audio feedback...
Maybe a subwoofer tuned to rumble according to the rev could be a way to make it a little closer to the feel of the real thing...
Anyway, thanks for the content.
I can't believe I have played ATS for 2 years with a shifter knob and not thought to turn on that "shifter toggle uses switch mode" before.. god it was annoying as all hell to have to double flip the range and splitter buttons to change modes. I feel like such a moron, but know I am loving my ATS a million times more! I can honestly say with all the people I have watched set up their devices i have never seen anyone turn this on or even mention it. You sir are amazing and thank you for pointing this option out!
This was very helpful. Thanks a lot
Someday I'll get a wheel - they're so damned expensive though. I'll definitely want this shifter knob as well. I feel like I'm missing on a big part of the experience with ATS/ETS2 using an XBox One controller.
I recently got into this game, don't know why... Started with keyboard, now I'm using a controller. Huge difference! Did you get the wheel yet? How much has the experience changed?
I got my used G27 for $110, few scratches but works great. Was a bit tricky setting up for the first time but now it is amazing.
Squirrel, there is no need to give gas while starting the truck, in real life you would never do this unless your really a noob because it burns up the clutch. The smoothest start is always by just letting go of the clutch slowly in a stronger gear, Lo, 1st with a load. 2-4th no load without giving it gas since the gear is low enough and the engine is strong enough to provide the torque to start rolling. I have a 18 speed truck and without a load(bobtail) i shift it like a 8 speed, with normal loads i shift it like a 13 speed, i only start using the Lo range splitting when pulling a b-train or so up a hill and i don't want to bog down the engine. Try also learning to float the gears. I never double clutched ever, except when i did my driving tests, because it's mandatory, I only adjust my clutch 2-3 times a year and I work in the city, while my drivers which do double clutch need their clutch adjusted every month. Floating the gears is simply shifting without the clutch, it is possible in the game but easier in real life, you just need to match the revs really well, when up-shifting, give it like .5 of a second before shifting to the next gear, if you ever miss a gear just give it gas, let go and try to put it into gear again, When downshifting, I like to use the clutch to just to get it out of the gear to put it into neutral, then blip the throttle to raise the revs then put it into a lower gear. This is the hardest part but eventually you will learn which rpm's work for what ever gear. Also Never split or change the range while going in reverse. In the game you can, but in a real truck you'll mess up the transmission, there's a big notice on the shifter layouts you put up. Finally like explained before when switching from high to low or low to high range , u don't need the clutch , just let go of the throttle for half a second and give gas again, in a real truck if you don't let go for long enough you can catch the selector mid gear and break something. :)
I don't know if that would work in the game, because in ETS2 a stronger truck with a normal and 14 speed gearbox (3 gears +range, splitter +splittable crawler) should be able to start from 2L, but it can barely start from C1...
great explanation - so happy about it!!!!
Brilliant I will be getting on when I get a wheel set up 👍
You have to clutch and neutral the trans to split up or down? Every gearbox in Europe can preselect and split at depression of the clutch for... 30 years or more?
No, you preselect it and then let off the throttle
Penta Yeah that sounds more like the modern boxes here as well.
Nope, 13/18 can merely split em by moving the splitter and letting off the throttle, then reapplying throttle. Same with shifting from gear to gear, Don't need to use the clutch to change gears.
it's way easier than that in mercedes trucks! you usually start in 2nd or 3rd then you change to 5th gear which can be where 5th is in a car upper right, or it can be a "karate" box which you have to flip over to the next set of gears and 3rd's place is now 5th's place :)
my god im gratefull for european gearboxes, in the volvo i drive with manual, it is a h patter without where 6th/r would be on a car, so 1/4 - 2/5 and 3/6 and u can ofc split them
hey squirrel the link is a dead end!
Edward Myers *This is not hate towards the creator but the company (CSIO) isn’t giving people their orders it’s been a year + for some people they don’t answer twitter, phone messages or email please do not waste your money! I hope this helped someone and please copy and paste this so others know this company is a scam!*
You can order similar one from Aplusbsoftware. They are best in the business.They have amzing customer service as well. I have got mine in 4 days.
Look into Aplusbsoftware, they make a great alternative that actually shows up. I found mine on amazon for around $100 and it showed up in ~a week. Support them, don’t get robbed by CSIO’s bs.
Digitalbarrito hi can you put out a link on the shift knob for trucks product you bought from amazon thanks
Finally! Waited for this video for so long. :)
very good tutorial.. you should be a trainer at a real life truck school.. as I trucker it makes me feel good to see how serious you guys take the truck sim games, keep up the virtual truckin!
Nice, now when can we get a 5 and 4 speed so we can have 21 gears?
Nope no such thing as a 21 speed in semis. only 18.
+Ratkill9000 21 speeds are very rare used for logging and special applications like very heavy haul
+Swaff Corps (Theswaff699) Very old and rare. Some were behind the Buzzin Dozen Detroit V12 diesels with twin sticks. Others were double H in Mercedes trucks. But I've never seen them and had to look it up. I guess it's possible to map it on the sticks for the game but it'll be a pain. Besides do we need more than 18? I mean the 18 speed Eaton-Fuller has an 14:1 first low gear ratio...that gets every load in game moving very well...not like they have mods for over 120,000lb loads.
+Ratkill9000 actually I found a mod that's 170,000 pounds, it was a Siemens transformer mod, after the last update it quit working though. and a 5x4 transmission would just be another excuse for me to buy another thrustmaster shifter.
+Zane Kubicek Why settle for 21 gears. The truck I learned to drive in had 30 (10 spd RR + 3 spd joey box). I've even seen an old B model Mack with 50 gears (5spd joey)
When you use the splitter from l to h you don't go back neutral keep for foot in the throttle slide the splitter forward release the throttle then get right back in the throttle to go to low bring throttle back to half flip the splitter to low and press throttle to full that's how it works in real world
Why would you use a woman’s blood 😂
THE REVIEW IS FINALLY HERE
18 speed shifters are a godsend in American Truck Simulator.
It looks like a nice tutorial, but how are you changing the way you are looking in the game. It has been a question i have been wondering for a while, do you use a mouse to do that or do you have buttons set up for that? And if you have buttons for that, can you also make a tutorial for that?
He has a TrackIR
Track IR, google it
He uses a Track IR (like blade. said) which monitors (tracks) where his head is IRL using infrared LED's and sensors (IR) and converts it into in-game head movement...it gives all axis movement; x, y and z, and also pitch yaw and roll (tilting your head).
TrackIR. Discount and link in the video description.
TrackIR. I'm saying it because 4 other people have said it.
17:02 don’t use the clutch on a real one. 😂 only for taking off and stopping
Unless your swift
If it gets you from point A to point B what does it matter i dont understand you american truckers with your floating pride xD Clutch is there because its meant to be used aint it? I'd rather double cluth than rape the gearbox when you dont get the rpm's right
@@Sakkeboy272 its better when going up hills. If you double clutch you'll miss the gear
@@BrowncoatInABox only miss the gear double clutching if your too slow. And its really not hard to double clutch considering your only using half the clutch when your on the go. With that being said, your not gunna rape a gear box floating because until the truck has reached its sweet spot the gear isnt going to move unless your pretending to be the hulk changing gears.
@@Sakkeboy272 It's what we like to call "Super Truckers" Basicly truckers who think their hot shit because they've been driving for x amount of years or how fast they can shift their KW
The 18 speed I learned in, the half gears you don't need to shift to neutral. Shift up you flick the selector and press and release the clutch, that shifts you to the half. You then flick it back and change up to the next gear as normal. My rule was up in half's, down full's. so if I found myself in a half gear when shifting down, I just went down to the next half gear, made matching the revs so much easier.
As usual and just like your flight sim videos, this was very helpful.
If you plan to order one from CSIO Tech, do not expect to receive it within the two to three weeks like they say. I ordered mine a month ago and have not received it as of yet. I sent them an email asking about when I can expect to receive my order with no response. I also left two messages by phone. I understand that they are a small outfit but what does it take to send a quick message to a client. if you do order one, do not pay it in full.
I was going to do this to warn others to not burn their money as well.
Currently I am waiting for over 3 months since the order was placed, and as you said, no communication.
In fact the communication from the company have been ceased, and they aren't even answering their phone anymore either.
In short, they have most likely put too little margin from the sales of devices to cover shipping and parts to make new shifters, and they are now out of funds and can't even ship them (They spent your shipment money to get more parts to make more shifters basically.)
So most likely CSIO tech is now about to go belly up, there is also the problem with the shifters arriving broken, in those cases you will have to pay to ship it back IF you get a response to your RMA claim.
In short, avoid this company for now unless you want to lose your money.
I was interested in this thing but holy shit over 100€ for a piece of plastic with 2 buttons, not to mention apparently awful customer service
Please... For the love of everything good, listen to Joe Moffa. I purchased one and a few accessories back in August. Still waiting sadly.
The link does not work now, so I wonder what happened to them?
i ordered mine in march and havent herd shit i emailed them about over month age just asking when i could expect to hear something and no answer now after reading this im thinking i never will now i have seen some one els making a nice verson on ebay for 90 i wanna find a review on it
Do you know of any right hand drive shifts?
let's hope we get an answer soon.
bugger :(
they make a right hand drive shifter now :)
Good news at least. They did say they were swamped with orders. Has that got any better?
The Nerfed Gamer yes put it on the other side
Great Video tutorial, nice setup!
Oh i love this im going to purchase one for my simulator its awsome 18 gears all the way good video
Squirrel, you're a bloody full-time RUclipsr, with all respect, where's the videos, you won't achieve a lot in your career with such a little amount of content. Good luck.
Except over 400K subscribers lol.
yes u will.. it aint about just uploading shitton of videos
+UB8Gaming I don't want a shit ton of videos, but his channel is growing very slowly, and I wish he managed it in a way that would make it grow quicker. He said himself he wants to make daily vids.
If you want to do quality you can't do quantity. He wouldn't be a full-time youtuber if he wouldn't make enough money with it. Plus he also has a twitch with streams 3 times a week.
+JbvGaming Fair enough
Cool but too expensive imo, the simulation community is getting really screwed by prices, 150$ for a shifter add-on, 30$ for a spring etc
I am from the future this one is around 45 bucks now on Amazon. But you are correct a sim set up should not cost more than the real thing. In many cases it does. I see people spend 5 to 7 k on a sim rig. do they not know a Miata is a great real race car and costs less?
I spent $40 for parts and built my own. Extremely simple
@@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 But, I mean, that's the real world.
this video is simply great thanks for sharing it
This is definitely a must have 4 all the advanced ATS enthusiast.. I definitely would want 1 bout time i start playing ATS
Are you a truck driver because you know so much I was trying to find how to use my Logitech G 920 shifter but I could only find gear 4 5 6 gears.
Can you use a butter knife instead of a screw driver?
I think try.
As a former trucker in America, after a bit we don't even touch the clutch we just float the gears, but at the end of the day make sure that you are in control of that truck, if that means you push the clutch down twice every time, then go for it, just make sure you're in control of that vehicle
This was fun. Thanks for sharing.
I bought in a June 2, 2016 it is ALWAYS in "pre-assembly"
I bought mine 2 weeks ago and it's still processing soo...
Same
Nagy Renato About 2 month
God knows what my wait was but it's ok the UK and coming this Tuesday! :)
Bought mine about 3 weeks ago, order still processing but it takes as long as it takes, I'll wait. :) Thanks for the answers guys, I really appreciate it!
why does he pronounce H as hate?
Hatche
Because that's how it's pronounced... Remember: British English is the original, everything else is a dialect.
That's how it's pronounced..
It's not how it's *supposed* to be pronounced, even in British English, but sadly, it's how a lot of people pronounce it.
Actually Americans speak proper English... think about it... Europeans came over here in the 1700s before England started speaking with an accent and changing the language
You are the only person who has been able to explain the SKRS 13 and 18 speed shift patterns while adding the game settings. I finely understand this, (you the man Squirrel) happy trails to you, tks.
Squirrel good for you for runnin a real set up.
LMAO 99 USD and 40 USD shipping HAHA no thanks...
That's a very fair price- Squirrel himself has said that the reason why equipment is so expensive is because it's niche and only a small audience will sport wheels or joysticks.
+AeroHydra good point but still 100$ for that? From my perspective and where I live...haha...no...
No kidding , I want this so bad but I can not justify a knob with 2 buttons on it worth paying that kind of money for it. if only it was a far more reasonable 50.00 and I did not even look at the shiping that's just pure bs.
none of you have any idea what goes into this product. shipping? yes, a little high but i live in america so its no problem for me. thats nothing they can control, they've tried. they have to machine the adapter, buy the knob, wiring, switches, screws, every little bit and piece that you dont even think about. go to the store and put it together yourself and i bet you have close to $100 if not more and you still have to put it together.
Wait... What? There's a simulator of my job? Lmao! Y'all are doing this for fun? Why not get your CDL and get paid?
Oh. Because you'll realize just how much this job sucks. xD
XxSynphulGryphxX it doesn’t suck a lot of kids want to do this when older I can’t get my license but I love to drive my dads trucks and equipment.
Canadian Pepe The act of driving these trucks is actually pretty fun. The challenge of maneuvering 80' of truck within 2° of straight and 3" of center is fun as hell. Maneuvering that much truck around crackhead drivers who don't know their head from their ass? Dissent story entirely.
XxSynphulGryphxX My dad use to do trucking, but he said it was fun as hell the only time it sucked was having to deal with people on the road, your customers were dicks, and that a lot of times he would get fired for the smallest shit. For example, he got fired because he wasn't suppose to arrive early but his dispatch never told him and so he got fired, end of story.. He had to even pay for damaged for this driver who brake checked him on then highway (I was with him) and yea... I would love to do this job myself but I wouldn't like to risk to deal with today's society on the road XD
XxSynphulGryphxX well ever since I was little I dreamed of working for my dad I’m 15 and still do I can’t drive trucks atm but for the past 5-7 years I’ve been operating equipment for him like Exvacators bobcat / skidsteer and a loaded
It only sucks when one single trip takes like 14 hours lol
Just for the record instead of the split ranges being labeled as low and high they can also be labeled Under and Direct, or Direct and Over depending on whether or not your truck transmission is equipped with overdrive. And if you want to see confusion then take a look at the shift pattern for a 20 speed Spicer.
I know I'm 5 years late, but honestly 6+4 Spicers are quite simple when you take a look at them for a few minutes. e.g. from a standstill, 1+1, 1+2, 1+3, 2+2, 2+3, 2+4, 3+2, 3+3, 3+4, 4+2, 4+3, 5+3, 6+4 and you're up to speed (I think that's how it would work as some gear combinations overlap and for some reason 5+4 is faster than 6+3, even though 6 and 4 are both overdrive and 5 and 3 are direct.
Great tutorial, mate spot on. I can't wait to get my wheel and my SKRS shifter. I just hope I've bought the right one as it looks a bit different....being an ex wagon driver, I'm looking forward to getting back behind the wheel. 🙂
Also, you don't need to pull out from the gear to split. And most importantly: *you NEVER move the range lever in neutral!* This game sucks for allowing you to do that.
You can move the range lever in any shifter position you want but it`s not gonna change the range until the shifter is in Neutral, this coming from Eaton themselves and several trainers.
Yeah, You'll burn it up in no time.
This was excellent!! Thank you!!
Great video and explanation
Awesome video! Great explanation and awesome tutorial.
You also have a hidden gear as well, that if your Not a truck driver you wouldn’t know about it. The Hidden Gear is Hi-Range but you put the gear stick in The Low, which is directly below the Reverse gear. I’m a truck driver in real life and I use this hidden gear all the time. We use it at times in City driving when you want to just casually roll along in heavy traffic conditions or coming off a hill is always a good gear ratio and yes you can split that gear as well, but once you want to select a higher gear, leave the side splitter knob in Hi and select 5th gear.
Love this sim and your videos!
I use my Th8a shifter and I use gear 7 as my range selector so 1-6 the 7 to split then 7-12 the split then 13-18....it’s super fun and don’t need this adapter...just the Th8a 7 speed shifter does it all...I also get 3 reverse gears with this setup..it’s super fun. Love my Th8a
this video was so helpful.thanks mate. subscribed your channel.awesome video