When you said you were going to plane it I imagined some fancy machine. Sorry, forgot where I was for a moment. Absolutely love this old fashioned trade work. Thanks
Thank you for making this video, I made a shooting board and I'm glad I made it right . All I had was an image to go off of. Thank you again, best wishes stay safe and healthy
I have 3/8 sq. Shafts from trees cut a year ago helping my friend build a Douglas fir log cabin in Montana. I’ve been looking at different ways of rounding them and I love this method. Can’t wait to hunt with them this fall with my American straight limb longbow. Thank you for sharing this.
Excellent, now I will make one of these boards for my new home made shaft project. I am a self Bowyer and have made many shafts in many ways. But now you have convinced me to make a board.
@@longbows I visited your website. I would like to order some arrows. I'm from the USA. Before I attempt a purchase, is your website set up for my type of purchase? Your recommendations will be appreciated
Hi, each listing mentions if we do not export it, saying "UK only" or similar, arrows/bows/shafts and animal products are all UK only, everything else can be exported, the website is set up to sell world wide, place the items in the basket and choose your destination from the drop down menu on the left and you will get a shipping quote.
@@longbows this is a sad affair, you leave your link to a website that most Americans cannot utilize. Guess that Europeans are just as nefarious as anyone else in the world?!!!. You are now unsubscribed.
Thanks. I have made arrows for years but have never made the shaft. Well this video has inspired me to make a shooting board and take my arrows to the next level. Thanks from Ontario Canada.
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if you're going to do this with precut pine from the hardware store , pull out a bunch of pieces and look down the length of them until you find some straight ones. well over half will be not straight.
I just found you guys on YT and thank you so much for the great videos - I had been thinking of making some shafts for arrows recently and this is super usefull and inspirational. You got another subscriber :)
Welcome aboard! Hopefully some of the other vids come in handy too, check out the website www.howtomakealongbow.co.uk and see the arrow making section.
Hi you two and thank you two for making all those amazing videos! If I can get some support on this I would like to see you taper shafts. I would really like to repair my broken shafts and taper new ones myself instead of buying them allready tapered... But sadly I don´t know how to taper shafts because I don´t know where to start the front or backtaper... Since they are tapered I keep on collecting quite a few broken shafts :( Thank you for all your great work! Best reagrards from germany
I could, but there are loads of woodworking videos who have dealt with sharpening etc, I am not sure it would be worth my time as my video would be no different, thanks for the input though, its greatly appreciated.
I've always wanted to try making a shaft ( Or several)from a board in this way. But im nervous for grain runoff! Nor have I ever gotten good with a block plainer. However!!! I typically use red dogwood, scoutberry and chokecherry chutes for shafts. By far the most difficult part of the entire archery process is straightening and keeping straightened shafts. I first find the right chute. With the bark still on, heat and warp the crooks completely out one direction. It Gives it a crescent moon shape. Debark and re straighten. The Olney thing for the fletching I use is thread. Yes I put it in my mouth and twist it the old way. Am I a proper Fletcher, despise my old native American methods? All though I did build a shaft jig. Two edge board to hook a dozen C clamps to heat and straighten.
I also use european dogwood, but as a very thick shoot, half an inch or more thick. My method is to straighten them as much as I can with the bark still on over hot coals in a clay heatbox, you need a lot of heat for thicker shafts and bark protects the inner wood. After that I debark them on a shooting board with a handplane, this takes out not only minor bends but the bumps also. The shaft is always round, never squared like in this video. Then I make minor adjustments over a low heat and then plane to final dimensions. For me, straightness became not something that you make, but something that you pick from a large amount of raw shafts that have been sitting for awhile. Also, my shooting board is a bit shorter so a couple of inches of the arrow protrude at the back, that way I can rotate it more easily.
"Nor have I ever gotten good with a block plainer." .. the problem with block plane (well all hand planes really, and just my experience so ...) is that you are better off either taking the plunge and buying Lie Nielsen or Veritas or getting a good (old) second hand one for mid-price. There seems no middle ground for brand new - either very expensive or complete garbage.
Serious question, any reason why something like Veritas dowel maker wouldn't work? At least to a point where you can run them through a straightener...
I am unaware of what a "Veritas dowel maker" is exactly, but, suffice to say, this is a traditional method of making shafts, there are no doubt plenty of other methods.
Any ideas how to make bulbous nocks with bladed tools? Well, not the bulb itself, but a smooth taper that runs into an obstacle. All-wooden blunt would also have a similar problem.
What kind o poplar do you use for the shaft? Is it ok to get a good grained poplar board from the home improvement store? Thank you for your videos I have been studying your work and attempting bow builds myself. Thanks love your work.
Question? Is it better to split the original shaft blank? Or is it better to saw? I split, in the belief that this will produce a shaft with straighter grain, and less likely to warp. Am I over doing this again?
Hello, what might be the best way to dry straight square timbers for arrows? Would you let dry a plank first before making many timbers or would you saw the timbers directly after treatening the tree? I can't imagine waiting over 4 Years for self made arrow shafts from tree to round shaft. I have 2 staight tree trunks of ash, i'd like to prepare them. Would really like to hear your opinion
Split them first, well oversized. Warping will be inevitable, however because they are oversized, you can simply plane each piece nice and straight to compensate before you begin processing them into shafts.
Wouldn't you need a spine tester after making the shaft? I've seen one in an archery catalog here in the United States sell for over $100. Now I can make one 10x cheaper. What kind of wood is good for arrows?
Not really, you can feel how stiff a shaft is after years of practice, there is nothing to suggest fletchers had spine testers in the period that these type of arrows were made, thats not to say they didnt, byt its more likely they tested by feel. Having said that, most shafts of this diameter are so high in spine that they suit heavyweight bows, I rarely find a light spine shaft in this diameter, also they are so heavy in physical weight that they come ou tof the bow fine anyway.
Very nice! I definitely over thought my shooting board. Mine has a variable depth feature for the plane, to make sure I don't take too much off the shaft. It turns out that this is a bit silly, because the arrow spine varies with the material, and the exact diameter of the shaft varies quite a bit. On that note, do you know of anywhere in the US to obtain decent clear pine? I went through a lot of wood, and made a lot of scrap, to select out enough material for 24 shafts.
32 sides: triacontadigon or triacontakaidigon 64 sides: Hexacontatetragon 128 sides: Hecatoicosioctagon MWA HAA HAA!!! 256 sides: Dihectapentacontahexagon 512 sides: THE MADNESS! THE MADNESS!!...penta...hecta...dodeca... a circle... just call it a circle.
Because the majority of arrows we have to get any real consensus from are the Mary Rose arrows which are Tudor it's hard to say a particular length of a Medieval Arrow, I would guess anywhere between 29" and 32" approx
Centimetres and Millimetres; pray, what are these strange words? For shame on you all. Thank goodness, the government have reintroduced honest Imperial units. So no more of your French nonsense
Here is the video showing how to make a shaft using this shooting board...ruclips.net/video/gvwernxQi8A/видео.html
Lol, no worries, glad to help. www.richardheadlongbows.com
Most relaxing to watch as I drink some tea😊 thank you for the education.
glad you enjoyed it. have you watched the other videos on this subject from my channel?
@@longbows yes, I have watched the video when you show arrows start to finish. Beautiful work.
This is way simpler than I thought it would be. You gents have done us a massive service.
No problem, glad we could help. Anything else you need?
This shooting board is a great invention for making arrows
I comes in handy
This is awesome. Thank you. I have tried other methods; but this is superb.
Glad it helped! what other methods have you tried?
great review thanks
Glad it was helpful!
An excellent video as always 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Brilliant video simple bur effective thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Hello from Maine, USA
Good morning!
Otro tremendo tutorial de Ricardo el Cabeza, muchas gracias mi pana
Thanks, glad you like it.
When you said you were going to plane it I imagined some fancy machine. Sorry, forgot where I was for a moment. Absolutely love this old fashioned trade work. Thanks
Glad you like it.
Thank you for making this video, I made a shooting board and I'm glad I made it right . All I had was an image to go off of. Thank you again, best wishes stay safe and healthy
Thanks for the kind words, stay Safe
I have 3/8 sq. Shafts from trees cut a year ago helping my friend build a Douglas fir log cabin in Montana. I’ve been looking at different ways of rounding them and I love this method. Can’t wait to hunt with them this fall with my American straight limb longbow. Thank you for sharing this.
Excellent, now I will make one of these boards for my new home made shaft project. I am a self Bowyer and have made many shafts in many ways. But now you have convinced me to make a board.
Great ,glad to help, let me know how you get on. Have you seen my website www.howtomakealongbow.co.uk
@@longbows I visited your website. I would like to order some arrows. I'm from the USA. Before I attempt a purchase, is your website set up for my type of purchase? Your recommendations will be appreciated
Hi, each listing mentions if we do not export it, saying "UK only" or similar, arrows/bows/shafts and animal products are all UK only, everything else can be exported, the website is set up to sell world wide, place the items in the basket and choose your destination from the drop down menu on the left and you will get a shipping quote.
@@longbows this is a sad affair, you leave your link to a website that most Americans cannot utilize. Guess that Europeans are just as nefarious as anyone else in the world?!!!. You are now unsubscribed.
Can't get no better than this it's amazing the craftsmanship from you all best to you
Wow, thanks!
Thanks. I have made arrows for years but have never made the shaft. Well this video has inspired me to make a shooting board and take my arrows to the next level. Thanks from Ontario Canada.
This is very helpful and I will be making one.
Glad it was helpful! Let me know if how you get on
thank you very much. I am doing my own shafts with my shooting board! And I keep learning. Thank you
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Awesome I've been waiting on this video for awhile now. Thanks
Hope you like it!
Excellent Job. Thanks a lot and Congratulations.
Our pleasure! Hope it was helpful?
Thinking of trying a length of decking board, they have grooves ready- made.
Great, let me know how you get on.
Nice to see you able to visit each other. Say hi to mother for me.
Thank you, I will
Thank you
You're welcome
wonderful
Thank you! Cheers!
if you're going to do this with precut pine from the hardware store , pull out a bunch of pieces and look down the length of them until you find some straight ones. well over half will be not straight.
I just found you guys on YT and thank you so much for the great videos - I had been thinking of making some shafts for arrows recently and this is super usefull and inspirational. You got another subscriber :)
Welcome aboard! Hopefully some of the other vids come in handy too, check out the website www.howtomakealongbow.co.uk and see the arrow making section.
Thank you sir
Welcome, let me know if its ok!?
It's perfect thank you, I find parallel really hard to do :-), I think a 32 sided shape is nearly a circle :-)
I also believed that the groove should be 11/32 (8.7mm) deep if we wanted to make arrow shafts corresponding to this diameter. Thanks for this video!
It's up to you.
Great information. What kind of wood would you suggest for the arrow shaft for a 90# bow? Would ash be fine?
Thanks. We sell ash shafts that are suitable for bows of that weight, so yes, Ash would be good.
The ones I'd heard of utilized a V-block
Triacontadigon is a 32 sided shape.
Brilliant, thanks.
Hi you two and thank you two for making all those amazing videos! If I can get some support on this I would like to see you taper shafts. I would really like to repair my broken shafts and taper new ones myself instead of buying them allready tapered... But sadly I don´t know how to taper shafts because I don´t know where to start the front or backtaper... Since they are tapered I keep on collecting quite a few broken shafts :(
Thank you for all your great work!
Best reagrards from germany
Thanks for the kind words, we will get round to doing a video on that one day.
Use a shorter version of this device and plane away.
Can you do a video on sharpening and , more importantly, setting plane blades ?
I could, but there are loads of woodworking videos who have dealt with sharpening etc, I am not sure it would be worth my time as my video would be no different, thanks for the input though, its greatly appreciated.
Do you guys have any footage talking about grain orientation/ runoff for arrows? T.I.A. - ryley
Hi, we mention it in various videos, not a specific one though, sorry.
I've always wanted to try making a shaft ( Or several)from a board in this way. But im nervous for grain runoff! Nor have I ever gotten good with a block plainer.
However!!! I typically use red dogwood, scoutberry and chokecherry chutes for shafts.
By far the most difficult part of the entire archery process is straightening and keeping straightened shafts. I first find the right chute. With the bark still on, heat and warp the crooks completely out one direction. It Gives it a crescent moon shape. Debark and re straighten.
The Olney thing for the fletching I use is thread. Yes I put it in my mouth and twist it the old way.
Am I a proper Fletcher, despise my old native American methods? All though I did build a shaft jig. Two edge board to hook a dozen C clamps to heat and straighten.
Very interesting, anyone who makes arrows is a fletcher, keep up the good work
I also use european dogwood, but as a very thick shoot, half an inch or more thick. My method is to straighten them as much as I can with the bark still on over hot coals in a clay heatbox, you need a lot of heat for thicker shafts and bark protects the inner wood. After that I debark them on a shooting board with a handplane, this takes out not only minor bends but the bumps also. The shaft is always round, never squared like in this video. Then I make minor adjustments over a low heat and then plane to final dimensions. For me, straightness became not something that you make, but something that you pick from a large amount of raw shafts that have been sitting for awhile. Also, my shooting board is a bit shorter so a couple of inches of the arrow protrude at the back, that way I can rotate it more easily.
Interesting, nice to hear.
"Nor have I ever gotten good with a block plainer." .. the problem with block plane (well all hand planes really, and just my experience so ...) is that you are better off either taking the plunge and buying Lie Nielsen or Veritas or getting a good (old) second hand one for mid-price. There seems no middle ground for brand new - either very expensive or complete garbage.
What would they have used historically to stick the shooting board together out of interest ?
They had glue, just wasn't waterproof, they may well have used a solid piece of wood etc.
Serious question, any reason why something like Veritas dowel maker wouldn't work? At least to a point where you can run them through a straightener...
I am unaware of what a "Veritas dowel maker" is exactly, but, suffice to say, this is a traditional method of making shafts, there are no doubt plenty of other methods.
Any ideas how to make bulbous nocks with bladed tools? Well, not the bulb itself, but a smooth taper that runs into an obstacle. All-wooden blunt would also have a similar problem.
You could adapt the method I used on this arrow...ruclips.net/video/WlHQ1jW--tM/видео.html
What kind o poplar do you use for the shaft? Is it ok to get a good grained poplar board from the home improvement store? Thank you for your videos I have been studying your work and attempting bow builds myself. Thanks love your work.
Sorry for late reply, we use Poplar available in the UK, not sure what you have there. As long as its good grained.
Question? Is it better to split the original shaft blank? Or is it better to saw? I split, in the belief that this will produce a shaft with straighter grain, and less likely to warp. Am I over doing this again?
Either is fine, the ones we used were sawn.
Hello, what might be the best way to dry straight square timbers for arrows? Would you let dry a plank first before making many timbers or would you saw the timbers directly after treatening the tree? I can't imagine waiting over 4 Years for self made arrow shafts from tree to round shaft.
I have 2 staight tree trunks of ash, i'd like to prepare them.
Would really like to hear your opinion
Split them first, well oversized. Warping will be inevitable, however because they are oversized, you can simply plane each piece nice and straight to compensate before you begin processing them into shafts.
Wouldn't you need a spine tester after making the shaft? I've seen one in an archery catalog here in the United States sell for over $100. Now I can make one 10x cheaper. What kind of wood is good for arrows?
Not really, you can feel how stiff a shaft is after years of practice, there is nothing to suggest fletchers had spine testers in the period that these type of arrows were made, thats not to say they didnt, byt its more likely they tested by feel. Having said that, most shafts of this diameter are so high in spine that they suit heavyweight bows, I rarely find a light spine shaft in this diameter, also they are so heavy in physical weight that they come ou tof the bow fine anyway.
You have edited your original question, so I am now a bit confused. We use Ash or Poplar for Medieval style arrows.
Very nice! I definitely over thought my shooting board. Mine has a variable depth feature for the plane, to make sure I don't take too much off the shaft.
It turns out that this is a bit silly, because the arrow spine varies with the material, and the exact diameter of the shaft varies quite a bit. On that note, do you know of anywhere in the US to obtain decent clear pine? I went through a lot of wood, and made a lot of scrap, to select out enough material for 24 shafts.
Sorry, I dont know of any wood supliers in the US.
32 sides: triacontadigon or triacontakaidigon
64 sides: Hexacontatetragon
128 sides: Hecatoicosioctagon
MWA HAA HAA!!!
256 sides: Dihectapentacontahexagon
512 sides: THE MADNESS! THE MADNESS!!...penta...hecta...dodeca...
a circle... just call it a circle.
Brilliant!!!
Now that I see how to make a shooting board, how do I make the blocks for the shafts? Where do I start getting the wood ready?
Perhaps you could ask your local wood shop to cut soem blanks for you.
How long is a medieval arrow ??? 0,5 of a inch
Because the majority of arrows we have to get any real consensus from are the Mary Rose arrows which are Tudor it's hard to say a particular length of a Medieval Arrow, I would guess anywhere between 29" and 32" approx
A 32-agon
sorry?
Centimetres and Millimetres; pray, what are these strange words? For shame on you all. Thank goodness, the government have reintroduced honest Imperial units. So no more of your French nonsense
For small measurements mm are superior imo. Inches and feet better for longer measurements. I grew up with both.