Rappers Are DEFENDING Eminem Hate - Kendrick Lamar, Kevin Gates, Fat Joe, 50 Cent, Papoose etc.
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- Опубликовано: 6 мар 2023
- In this powerful video, some of the most respected names in the rap game - Kendrick Lamar, Kevin Gates, Fat Joe, 50 Cent, Papoose, and Page Kennedy - come together to defend one of their own: Eminem.
Despite being a trailblazer in the rap industry and one of the most successful artists of all time, Eminem has been the target of a lot of hate and criticism lately. But in this video, his fellow rappers set the record straight.
They speak passionately about Eminem's talent, work ethic, and impact on the culture. They also address some of the misconceptions and stereotypes that have been perpetuated about him.
As true fans of hip-hop, these rappers know the importance of standing up for one another and supporting the art form they love. And in this video, they do just that - with conviction, intelligence, and heart.
So if you're a fan of Kendrick Lamar, Kevin Gates, Fat Joe, 50 Cent, Papoose, Page Kennedy, or Eminem himself, you won't want to miss this powerful message of solidarity and respect. Watch now and join the conversation! 
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Yup
Sold more records then any one in hip hop! #1
I LIKE EMINEM BUT DONT GET IT TWISTED THE WHITE GOAT IS MILLYZ FROM BOSTON! THATS A FACT!
Joe Biden Is a terrible Rapper!
EMINEM is a legend.
Melle was a Great Rapper but he is already beyond infamous.
But Melle Mel has to adjust to EMs style and it's reverse Racism
What's crazy to me is that Eminem always respects the hip-hop culture his Hall Fame speech he spoke about the influence of the culture and how it's impacted his life. It's time to grow up and give this man his RESPECT
Literally included Melly Mell in his speech that's the craziest part imo 😵💫
I was thinking the same thing. Eminem has so much respect for Hip Hop and veteran Hip Hop artists. It's a shame that no matter how skilled he is or how many thanks he gives, he will continue to be shaded because he's a white guy in a black dominated field. Like him or not, he's a great lyricist.
One of the most humble hall of fame speeches have ever heard
It really isn't that big of a deal. The media just feeds on this. In every culture we have a few old heads and couple younger ignorant folks who will be stuck in the past and revert to ignorance. Idek why we bothered by what a few think of Em when the majority of the hip hop faternity knows whats up.
To an extent I agree with this but imma be real, you guys bring a lot of that hate too him. Em fans literally do not shut up about how incredible he is then list off all these things he does that show why, and all of those things are things black artists have been doing since before he even started rapping. Yall prop him up so high that yall claim the GOAT list is just em with a bullet and no one comes close which is genuinely absurd.
I don't think most em fans listen to rap, they just listen to em and his crew and like NF and shit.
I prefer Rakim's take on Em... "If Em was black, he would be the next Muhammad Ali"
Agreed!!!
No
Hell naw
Facts!!
Eminem is the goat! He’s lyrically the best. He sold more records than everyone in hip hop he even has the most subscribers on RUclips than all your fav rappers. He can also freestyle great. He came up battle rapping his story is the best he’s just the best period. Make a chart of what makes a rapper the best Eminem checks all boxes
Eminem has shown nothing but respect towards hip hop culture, You honestly cannot hate this man because he's humble and stays out the way, he doesn't fuck with anyone unless someone fucks with him, and most of all, he's fuckin' talented
Or if someone f*cks with his daughter, which grants him infinite respect in my book.
Most people don’t hate Em, we despise his Stans- they’re the most disrespectful fans in the universe
@Mrs_SBIV Nahh Youngboy fans are by far the absolute worst
@@princeparish5001 Have you read the endless threads of comments from white Eminem fans? Seriously? I’m well versed in Stanisms because I’ve been battling them for years. They are merciless. They even try to make Revival a good album. Idc how much you love an artist, Revival was utter trash yet they still make excuses for their God, Marshal Mathers.
@@Mrs_SBIVI agree with you that album was dogshit but let’s be 100 percent honest here, die hard fans of any artist do the same shit. Damn near every single big artist has a bad album out and I still see countless people trynna defend it this isn’t just an Eminem problem people just don’t know good music. It’s the same shit as the millions of people that try and say the 2016 xxl freshman class was the best freestyle ever when it was some of the worst horse shit I’ve ever heard in my life, these kids nowadays don’t know real music they just dickride and I still have yet to find an explanation as to why other than just peer pressure and social media influence
Music is like magic, there’s a certain feelin’ you get when you real and you spit, and people are feelin’ your shit. -Em
Doctor Kevorkian has arrived to perform an autopsy on you while you scream im still alive drivin a rusty scapel in through the top of your scalp n pullin your adams apple out through your mouth better call the fire department ive hired an arsonist to set fire to carpet and burn up your entire apartment
💯
The Marshall Mathers LP is a classic album. He put his crew on and made them get deals he didn't take from the culture he always gave back to the culture.
his best album....but not THEE best album
@@dn30001 That is all one opinion but I remember when that album came out in that era.
@@cannon5041 me too. That was in 2000. There were some other heavy hitters that dropped that year toom
I don't even think that was a good album. Em has been on a few good tracks like "Guilty Conscience" but he was no better than Dre on it. Most people don't even understand what it really means to give back to the culture, Em increases the culture amongst White people but that is not giving back to the culture neither is mentioning a few of the legends for credibility clout. He has the ability to rap but is vastly overhyped and his content has no substance.
@@jahdjnr5232 your comment has no substance if you ask me
“Some people only see that I'm white, ignorin' skill/ 'Cause I stand out like a green hat with a orange bill/ But I don't get pissed, y'all don't even see through the mist/ How the fuck can I be white?/ I don't even exist...” - Eminem
I get a clean shave, bathe
Go to a rave
Die from an overdose and dig
myself out of my grave
My middle finger won't go down, how do I wave?
And this is how I'm supposed to teach kids how to behave?
Well your talent certainly doesn't exist 😂😂😂
@@jahdjnr5232 your talent is hating on another mans talent LOOOOOOL
@@jahdjnr5232 what is YOUR own legacy? Kindly share with it us
@@jahdjnr5232 you gonna get butthurt in everyone comment bro? Lmao damn I'm seeing you all through these
That last part "Who can make a song like stan?"
This just hits really hard
But who could make a rap song like ( White Lines 89 by Melle Mel ) or ( World War Three by Melle Mel ) or ( Drug War by Melle Mel ) or ( I Need Love by LL COOL J ) or (
@@stanleyball2615 Sorry but dunno bout those song to be honest. Most PH people knows eminem since he was the mainstream for the other countries aside from US.
Respect for the OGs though
Feels like you lost your train of thought, my guy...
@@Mayhamsdead a bit lol
@@Mayhamsdead or ( Dear Yvette by LL COOL J ) or ( Love's Gonna Get Cha by KRS- ONE ) . This completes my train of thought.
"I'd be sitting in that table like.. what's up Marshall" 😂
I mean if u don’t like Eminem it’s ok, but u have to give the man his credits and to what his done to hip hop culture. Im from middle east and its freakin crazy how Eminem is well known here.
It’s not just about how well-known he is, it’s about his skill set. His lyrical ability is unlike anyone else’s he is beyond incredible.
@@freddyjason3142 Totally agree, 💯💯
look i dont like some of eminems new stuff and i dont like people blindly dickriding eminem, i do think he lost some of his magic and i would not consider him in my top 2 3 maybe but to say that eminem is not nice or he is not in top 5 what ? HE IS definitely in top 5 of all time u gotta give the man some credit when eminem came out he was crazy...and it was worldwide, i've never seen a rapper having a bigger debut than eminem ever! and that is an achievement in itself
Freddy jason
That chris o'dea joke was truth, eminem occassionally goes off topic to make his rhymes schemes rhyme from behinnijg, internal and end if each bar. Theres multiple rappers out there that can easily rhymes beginning to end, the difference is they do it without going off topic, so no he is not lyrically better thaN everbody else lol
@@freddyjason3142 if he was black you wouldn't listen, I dont know any blacks(who arent from the inner city or considered a complete lame that listen to him in their cars
Real people and fake people. Period. Ems a legend.
Who is this man at the end that said that?
@@mariebrigman3307 Kevin Gates
Anybody in your neighborhood bumps Eminem music
Problem is all the fake people think they real. Smh
Easily a Legend!
It happens all the time. When someone is too good, too talented and too successful, first everyone admires them, then they get hated on bc of jealousy. It happened to MJ as well around the Bad album era. People got tired and jealous of the seemingly perfect artist and started trying to take him down.
It's like people who envy his success try to diminish and provoke him, to feed off of the controversy.
As if they want to be mentioned in his next disstrack to validate them as being in relevant
Yeah, like totally the same with Bruno Mars right. Just haters everywhere. You two should start a RUclips channel
Maybe a man who admitted to sleeping in the bed with a series of unrelated prepubescent boys isn’t the best example of a “perfect” artist. He had more than his fair share of very valid criticisms. And this is only judging him on the things he’s admitted to himself, not even based on allegations.
@@dewilew2137 well, I did write "seemingly perfect" and I'm talking about the Bad era which was years before any allegations ever came out. People started to make up lies and crazy rumors based on nothing precisely because after Thriller and Bad, people started to get jealous + people love a good "falling out" story. I'm not in any way saying he was perfect, just that many lies were told about him.
And, although he did say that when children fell asleep in his bed, he didn't remove them out wake them up and just slept next to them (which is a valid behavior to criticize, of course) the FBI never found a single thing to corroborate any of the allegations made against MJ, he was cleared during his trial and the allegations made during the Leaving Neverland "documentary" were debunked. I'm not saying "I know it never happened" but nothing I've heard up until today tells me it did.
The Marshall mathers lp was the first rap cd I ever loved. Played it for a year straight. To disrespect this man because of his race is beyond ignorant. Not just his own career, but the respect he put back on Dre’s name, plus 50 cent.
It was the second for me, but only because the slim shady lp was the first. I think I was maybe 8 or 9 when that came out, but I didn’t have a copy until I was about 10 or 11, I think. I was in 7th grade when the Marshall mothers lp came out. Good memories.
It bothers me when older rappers criticize eminem because he has so much reverence for the rappers who came before him. He admires them like superheroes. Listen to his rock n roll hall of fame speech where he just spoke the names of other hip hop artists. He didn't talk about himself really. I hope his feelings aren't hurt. He will never speak out against his heroes.
Oh wow a speech. no features or lettings them open up for him. But hell eminem dont even let his own artist open up for him. Theres a reason the highest selling rapper of time ain't the richest.
Melle Mel has done more for the culture of Hip Hop than eminem could imagine
Haters gonna hate. Plain and simple. The man changed the landscape and deserves the undying creds for it
@@adisaoxendine2201 that don't make him right though.
@@adisaoxendine2201 😂😂😂
What sucks is Eminem more than likely holds him in the highest regard! He did mention him in his hall of fame speech, saying he was one of the many rappers that raised him into the beast he is.
Fax💯💯💯
I'm from the Philippines still here, when I was young back in the early 2000's my uncle introduced me to Eminem. I loved listening to him ever since, and lil Wayne too. Those two we're my favorite childhood rappers. They are well known here, snoop dogg as well.
I don't even listen to much rap but as a linguist, how can I not acknowledge and respect his skills?? He is a craftsman. Nothing cheap or easy in his product. Every syllable on point. I appreciate they brought up how many have tried to leave their mark, but no one has stuck around like Marshall. 🤙
This whole thing of hip hop saying they can't disagree with a legend is BS, you're a man first and not a child anymore, you have opinions of your own. Same thing as a legend dissing a younger artist, they can fire back because you're a person first and disrespect is just that no matter where it comes from
That's not a Hip-Hop thing, that's a nut gobbling Fat Joe thing.
@@dynamitecorleone I have to agree with Fat Joe there because he isn’t the only one guilty of that. It’s interesting he brought that up because I never heard anyone ever bring attention to that. A lot of people will go so far to defend someone they like and they’ll go as far as sweeping the truth under the rug. Might be the pressure of being “right”- even tho it’s opinion-based A lot of peoples opinions especially today rely on the verification of other people. That for sure happens in Hip-Hop i’ve seen tons of bias like that and not only pertaining to the credit of Eminem.
@@NoMoneyAfterTipping I agree with Melle Mel but I also believe everyone is titled to their own opinion and viewpoints. Ppl tend to mix up facts with opinions. That's Melle Mel's opinion and others should be able to say how they feel about his opinion while stating theirs and or facts 🤷🏾♂️. As simple as that. Using the words Worship and Icon when referring to a man that bleeds like you and breathes the same air as you is suspect if you ask me, in my head that means you'll bow down, hey but that's just me 🤷🏾♂️
Skills have no color .Period !
@@dynamitecorleone People are entitled there opinions of course but Eminem being 1 of the greatest is a fact not an opinion.
He was talking about the Billboard top 50, In there criteria alone Em should be even higher than 5.
I don't know how you can have such a long career, Sell more records than any other hip hop artist, still put out music that does huge numbers and only be #5.
It doesn't matter if you like him or not he is what he is.
He definitely earned his spot. He definitely has kept it a buck. Give him his flowers. He spits more for us than some of our so called own. His talent can't be denied. Respect ✊🏼
Big facts
Everyone gets forgotten except a few and Eminem will always be in someones mouth whether it's bad or good. He is that guy is the goat he can't be touched
Talent doesn't come From the color or your skin. It takes devotion, hard work, dedication, and Em is a true genius. Period. Some people treat Hip Hopmusic like its a Gang or a group where there's a Leader and only Red and Blue and black colors are the only dress code.
Kevin Gates has the talent of saying a lot by saying little. Gotta admire it.
When I heard Makin love a few years ago I became a fan.
Kevin Gates just gets it
I haven't seen Kevin Gates face In years. Did he gets some face tats removed?
@@travishenderson9635 im not fully sure but i think so too
@@travishenderson9635 he got the cross one removed off his forehead
He keeps it simple and to the point.
Eminem is a excellent rapper..yeah he has white privileges that's true but has nothing to do with skills.
Eminem lyricism can NEVER be questioned!!! You might not like his music or the content of his raps. But his technical skill is unquestionable!!
Absolutely he is Brilliant
I give much respect to Eminem..his music has changed the Game..not just here but International as well...another thing is that he has given opportunities to other artists in different genres as well...
"Only two types of people, real people do real things and fake people do fake things" 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Imagine being an average rapper and going after Eminem
"BuT MeL''s A PiOneEr & leGenD' Just come to show even legends and OGs can be equally dumb like any other 🤣
Guy, that average rapper as you call him, has possibly the best rap song ever recorded, ‘the message’ real hip-hop heads know this. Nothing in Em&Em’s catalog can top that song. Melle Mel is 1 of the pioneers.
@@yo3rdtier128 OK, but that wasn't the point. The point is he should acknowledge or at least respect his skills even if he doesn't like his music, instead he says he's only good cause he's white which is very stupid.
@@yo3rdtier128 Not really. i've heard the message and there's plenty better songs: NYSOM/It Ain't Hard to Tell, Mural, Sing About Me I'm Dying of Thirst, Many Men, Stan/Sing for the Moment, Put It On, Rapp snitch knishes, 6ft 7ft, + dozens more
@@yo3rdtier128 “the message,” is mid at best. Welcome to opinion, you should quit speaking like your opinions are facts 😂 buster
Till I Collapse "I probably will never get the respect I deserve"
Look beyond the beats, gimmicks, race and look at the lyrics only. Look at how Eminem constructs his rhymes, look at his different flows, his speed, his delivery, his vocabulary. There has never been a better rapper, he's on another planet it's not even close.
Lol
I disagree, i think juice and MF doom are monsters but I think em is in the same space. Nasty MCs and lyricist.
In his prime yes
Ain’t gonna lie I really like Eminem’s new music he’s definitely one of the greatest to ever do it
Nah man all his beats after 2009 suck. Wordplay only goes so far. It’s unlistenable if the beats suck.
@@CrispyHulk1 see I don’t care about beats I like lyrical rap but I get where your coming from
@@CrispyHulk1 nah man listen to “no regrets”. I bet you like it
YK
Thats mostly subjective though, i see trap fans claim all of eminems beats are bad until he released kamikaze.
@Y K Sounds like somebody who hasn't been listening with an open ear. But, fair enough. Maybe you weren't feeling the beats. No disrespect, I'll never forget how Meth said, "the dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum." The lyrics themselves are King bro.
I am black doesn't matter but this got me teary cuz i love hiphop and Eminem is def in top 5 for sure idgaf bout race or ethnicity is bout are you LYRICAL, the impact and legacy etc. I am happy the real hiphop heads,fans and actual lyricist Mc's fights back at this behavior even if it is a "pioneer" everybody can still be wrong. glad they was calling them out when they are wrong. BIG PUN and Big L would Rap circles around him lyrically around Melle Mel don't even get me started. I would even argue that Eminem pays More homage to his roots than anybody the ones that was there before him doing real hiphop the Og's,MC's, he has payed more homage to the real more than everybody ever in Hiphop imo the "Hall Of Fame" speech alone and his verse on "Yah Yah" proves my point, featuring Black thought, Royce 5'9 and of course Q-Tip from the legendary hiphop group " A tribe called Quest" which is also in RockNroll hall of fame i believe.
You must not listen to alot of rap if you think he's top 5
@@Doggfather4343you must not if you don’t recognise he is. He’s among the greats of hiphop like it or not hater.
@jessicarichter6436 whe did I say he wasn't one of the greats?learn to comprehend before you comment
@@Doggfather4343 what's your top 5
You can like or dislike whomever you want, but at least the respect is due. And what's funny to me is that, Eminem is still so huge in a rap game, that people (especially rappers) can't stop talking about him, that's how great he is.
Still huge, really?
@@edes8560+ million listeners every month yeah safe to say that’s still huge.
I respect Eminem. He's a great rapper. He's one of my top favorite artists who helped me to appreciate rap, and today, I still want to hear any new song he drops. The last thing I like about Eminem is that he respects black people and appreciates African American culture with his actions and what he says.
That’s all he can do though. Which is why the older rappers speak the way they do. Nothing wrong with that but it must always be noted & never forgotten.
I can listen to Kevin talk all day, the personal journey that man has been through is so inspiring to me
This is what the culture is about. We all respect the IGa, but call out the haters. It sucks to grow up admiring people and find out they hate/disrespect/mock you for trying to add to said culture
Crooked sitting there smoking a gar with the ski tucked up like a damn Villian talking about “I’m sitting at that table too” has me dying bruh 😂😂😂 he’s not wrong though
This was great to see and hear!!!
I'm Black and has listened to hip Hop since NWA, but Em is most definitely a Great!
He was ok when he came out was all about fun, he dropped off a long time ago. A great absolutely NOT but comparing him to the garbage that has emerged recently will warp your judgement.
@@jahdjnr5232 😂😂😂😂 he was out waaay before said garbage and still was at the top..you just hate him cuz he white
@@jahdjnr5232 Your opinion is based on the limited knowledge you have.
@@jahdjnr5232 you still have time to delete this comment
@@jahdjnr5232 your either 12 or 50
Man, Crooked was so badass.
The round table response was elite!
Can I just say it's great to see Fat Joe and Papoose on talking terms. All we need now is collaboration.
Im from the Philippines. The music industry here has a big influence of Bone Thugs Harmony, Tupac and Eminem.
I doubt Eminem would of reached as far as he did if he had no bars.
Ask Vanilla Ice, that's what would have happened to Eminem if he had no bars.
fax, look how many white rappers have come after him & not a single one has come close to his success & accomplishments
Bars, lyrics, rhymes, unorthodox flows
@@abbasalhamidawi7184 how many? 😂 cause they literally all blew up
@@JaeThaGemini blew up for couple of years?
Like a lot have mentioned, he's not for everyone, love him or hate him, you can't deny his insane writing ability, hard work, dedication to his craft, the body of work he's made, the contributions he's made to his City, his peers, and the ones around him. He's got 11 studio albums, 2 compilation albums and 1 ep, plus numerus cameos/guest spot features on tracks ranging from Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Kayne West, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, Drake, Kendrick Lamar, DMX, Busta Rhymes, 50 cent, Logic, Bruno Mars etc. Considering the caliber of people he's worked with that could of just said no or picked someone else, instead they asked for him says a lot. Aside from albums, his movie 8 mile got him an Oscar and a Grammy, he introduced entire generations of kids to freestyle Rap, Rap battles, and the lyrical skill needed to win.
In my opinion, if Eminem was black, he would of been the next 2pac. His journey in music could of actually been easier for him if he was black. He wouldn't of had to work as hard/prove himself that he belongs there, because he would of blended in rather then sticking out.
Deluded, it is easier for him because he is White. He is accepted by Black people because he has the backing of Dr Dre and is automatically accepted by White fans of rap music because he is one of their own, people who would never support Black rappers are eager to support Eminem because he is White. That is not to say that he can't rap but Eminem himself states he wouldn't have the sales figures he does if he wasn't White, you clearly don't understand White privilege. Making out he would be the next 2Pac is a joke, Tupac is a far greater rapper but Tupac is loved because he was a revolutionary and you felt it in his music Eminem is nowhere near those levels and 2Pac isn't even the GOAT. Once you are accepted in certain circles everyone in those circles is open to make music with you plus the fact that black rappers who make music with Eminem increase the chances of their music being brought by White people who would not normally buy their music, that is a significant increase in sales. The raps in 8 Mile were written for him not by him. I don't like him because I don't feel the content he raps about. The fact that White people try to claim he is the best rapper ever when he clearly isn't makes me dislike him even more though.
No, def. not the next Tupac. If anything, if Em were black he’d be Crooked I. I don’t disagree that Em works hard & is one of the best when it comes to rhyming words & being lyrically creative. But if a black artist was putting out the exact same songs, beats & content, they would be seen as corny & juvenile, and probably never make it out the underground circuit. Keep it a buck: Would “I” be an international superstar & be seen as the GOAT if I put out Music To Be Murdered By? Probably not. I would be placed somewhere between a Canibus & a Tech N9ne.
@@Messiah_Black Your hypothetical doesn't make sense, because if you put out the exact same songs as someone else, they're not your songs lol. I get what you're saying though. An artist that comes to mind immediately is Hopsin. Here's the thing though; It's not white people holding back black rappers, it's black people holding back black rappers. White people don't look at other people listening to Em or Hopsin and go ''He corny. He's a white people rapper.'' You know who do say shit like that? Black people. Anyway, in Hopsin's case, he made it out of the underground circuit. He may not be as big as Em, but it's not for lack of talent or skill, it's because people discount him. Melle Mel here saying Eminem is only in the top because he's white; But I bet money that if Melle Mel has heard some of Hopsin's songs, he'd still say something like ''Why he tryna sound like Em for? He sound corny'' or some bs like that.
@@Kushien I think your missing the point. There’s plenty of rappers who’s styles are similar to Eminem’s, yet haven’t had the same crossover, mainstream success or international popularity. So if the “style” is the thing that everyone claims their gravitating to, then why is this not the “standard” where all we see are “super lyrical” artists blowing up? Why are Hopsin & Joyner Lucas not international icons? Why is Crooked I not selling millions of units every time he drops a project? Why isn’t Royce brought up in GOAT conversations? Black People are pretty consistent if you ask me. If you look at who we see as “GOATS” it’s all the same type of artist: Biggie, Jay, Nas, Pac, Rakim… Smooth, charismatic, lyrical but not too “wordy,” raps about street life & issues w/in the black community. It’s not like we omit Em, but overwhelmingly support the Hopsins & Joyner Lucas’s of rap. We don’t really rock w/ them either. So it’s not as much of a “race” thing as most Stan’s think. If Em fans top 5 consisted of Em, Redman, Royce, Crooked I, & Busta Rhymes then you could make the argument that it’s just that stye that’s appealing to them. But y’all got Pac, Nas, & Big in y’all’s Top 5 too…
@@Messiah_Black You're ignoring a lot of factors and acting as though people only blow up for ''one single reason'', here you're saying it's ''supposedly'' his style, but you're really saying it's his skin color. For one, Eminem came up during a time where there weren't many White rappers. (They existed yes, but not very common, and they were definitely not at Em's skill level.) Also, not everyone had the backing of Dr Dre, having someone like that who's already well-established in the industry goes a LONG way. ''Why are Hopsin & Joyner Lucas not international icons?'' Well, define international icons. They both have fans internationally. Anyway, you completely ignored what I said. ''Why doesnt this person have the same record sales'' BECAUSE BLACK AMERICA AIN'T BUYING THE ALBUMS. ''Black People are pretty consistent if you ask me.'' Yeah, and here you see them in the video defending Em as a GOAT. But you're ignoring that and acting like no black people ever can put Em in their top 5. When you get down to it, it's really just y'all being racist. Saying ''Em is only in the top charts because he's white'' is the equivalent of me saying ''Lebron James is only one of the richest NBA players because he's black''. ''It’s not like we omit Em, but overwhelmingly support the Hopsins & Joyner Lucas’s of rap.'' But you're literally omitting Em by saying he doesn't deserve his success because of his skin color, and that Hopsin and Joyner do, because of their skin color. The world does not revolve around your skin color. ''We don’t really rock w/ them either. So it’s not as much of a “race” thing as most Stan’s think.'' It is, you're just to ignorant to realize the reason why those black artists aren't successful is precisely because black people don't ''really rock w/ them.'' You want Hopsin and Joyner in the top charts? Go buy all their albums, all their singles, itunes, merchandise, etc. Tell all your friends to do the same. No? Then stfu with your racist bullshit lmao.
"only 2 type of people in this world. real people and fake people" i FULLY fw that
Melle mell was (is) a legend and he was almost (is) idolized by alot of the older hip-hop fans. For many it was the only way, the only chance of getting out of the projects having money getting your family to a better place essentially. I love the fact that In hip hop culture they give their flowers to those that paved the way. You see that with different bands across multiple genres of music but nothing like what you see in hip hop and rap. But their is absolutely no denying Eminem's skill with flows, word play, doubles triples, the list goes on and on. Was glad to hear someone say it wouldn't matter what color skin he is he would be right where he is now a legend that has changed the game. I think the rapper that is slept on the most is tech n9ne. He needs to be way further up the list as one of the greats for sure. To me Melle Mel being who he is and paving the way for so many after him I chose to act like he never did an Eminem diss track, he has at least earned it.
Love that Everlast gets some mention. House of Pain are very underrated.
Song still smacks to this day for me haha. Got that on repeat almost on a daily.
You don't have to like some or even most of his music, but it doesn't deny the fact that he's one of the G.O.A.Ts
Of what? Maybe pop music, but not hip hop...not even top 50
@@edes85 name just 10 rappers that are better than him. haha
Name 5 better rappers @@edes85
The Eminem Show is listenable from the moment you push play. It is a classic. What I've learned in therapy is people don't talk about you if they don't respect something about you.
The greats can be wrong. It doesn't take from their contributions. You can respect a person and still disagree. Love this
Its brilliant the way Melle Mell is baiting Marshall to get back into the booth. He is secretly a stan and is hoping for an album to drop.
Damn man Eminem always paying respect to the founders of Hip Hop and you constantly hear him in interviews speak on legends and pay respect , but in hindsight if Melly Mel was Eminem someone would be saying outlandish things about him, it comes with being at the top
It's his opinion. So people are not allowed to say how they feel
@@ICE-zf1cj OH
@@ICE-zf1cj not when their opinions are outrageously and incomprehensibly dumb.
@@CrispyHulk1 thank you for that comment 😂 Mf’s ridiculous!
@@CrispyHulk1 So you're calling Melly Mel dumb?
the thing with em is he also helped make some of the best rappers of today, thats why so many have love for him
Ironically, what made me happiest about this video is the love and respect given to Melle Mel. Fantastic to see that every generation continues to see him as the Godfather. I thought he’d been forgotten.
"real people do real things" case and point!
Mele Mell is a joke for that bs. Nobody should be hesitant to tell him, he isn't right. Rap aside. You're a man first. You have every right to tell a man, no matter how old they are, if they're wrong or right. Respect goes both ways. You being born before me doesn't mean you have the right to talk down or disrespect me. It just mean you were born first. No one is in control of when they are born. Stop using that as an excuse. Mel can't touch Em, and anyone with half of a brain knows that. It's time to start normalizing putting any man of any age, feet to the fire. It's no different with sports. A white man created basketball and football. It is no secret that both sports have been dominated by black people throughout history. MJ, a black man, is the goat of basketball. Do you mean to tell me we're going to dismiss that, because he's black? Imagine saying "Oh, well the only reason MJ is considered the goat is because he's black. Do you know the outrage black people would spew out, if a white man said that to us? It's very hypocritical.
Rap and Hip Hop, was created by black people. So now i find it funny that these sour mofos, are mad that a white man, who has always been respectful to the culture, is better than the ones who created it. It's so freaking mind-boggling. I'm a proud black man and I really am sick and tired of mfs using the race card, for every little thing. Judge a man by his actions, character, and talent, not skin color. Mel and anyone else disrespecting that man, need to have 3 seats and stfu. He couldn't compete with Em and win, if he wrote his best battle rap.
Well said!
Mel thinks just cus he made 1 great influential song he can diminish the careers of other better rappers lol
Respect
preach
agree 💯
These guys started it all and are more than extraordinary legendary and have opened all the doors for all the different ways for rap music and hip hop to go to and have much success!!!! But it always started and had to have started with them and the time that is started!!!!! 😎👍
Kevin Gates made a song called Marshall Mathers on Luca Brasi bout 12 years ago
Yeah that whole album is fire.
@@whatsthedirt yeah thats when he took over Louisiana i remember hearing it everywhere we actually got tired of seeing him bc he was in every club lol
Kevin Gates dropping bars even when in normal conversation, damn 🔥🔥
Papoose with the Jwill shout-out! Respect!
where I live we talk about Pac, Biggie, and Eminem and you still hear people rapping his old 2000s music heck it hella bumps till this day on peoples car speakers
Where you from brother?
@@Python-xs2iv Canada Newfoundland
@Python-xs2iv Detroit also
Em is nice regardless of what the old dinosaur is saying.
As if Dinosaur was not enough you had to put 'OLD' in front of it. why you do him like that🤣🤣🤣
@@geoffreymori5959 Because if your time came and went, thats what you are: OLD RELIC
It also has to do with ignorance in arrogance which is the part that warrants the insult
It's harder to rap when your white .rap is about street cred .being white doesn't quite help that .[Vanilla ice] so he proves how it is harder even when you've conquered the world with your raps .crazy .can't even get you're dad's approval.Ems his son .he's denying his son 🙄 Emmaculate conception 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@geoffreymori5959 cuz em is a dinosaur as well 🤷🏾♂️
As soon as Mellie Mel open his mouth and said that bullshit, I knew he was going to get ripped up! Dude, ‘Em is forever in the top 5 mc’s list. Deal with it.
Bruh ain't nobody listening to Eminem corny music today
@@ICE-zf1cj check his Spotify number you fool. He is most listened rapper worldwide. If you got your head burried under sand doesn't mean world don't exist.
@@ICE-zf1cj stop hating bitch
@@ICE-zf1cj you prob listen to drake pussy
@@ICE-zf1cj Lmao! Yeah, and you belong to that demographic of "nobodys". Try and be more original because if I had a dollar for every time some npc on the internet has used this exact sentence. Rest please
Eminem has aged like fine wine too.
👊🏻Great stuff again man
I’m going to address the elephant 🐘 in the room. Eminem for years had to force himself to adapt as a MC. The biggest handicap to a lot of rappers is the N word. Slim adapt himself to utilizing other words to form his rhythms, once it became a habit, he can do it with ease. Most rappers can not with using the N word. Too many rely on it too much in every song just to make a song. So Slim followed the rules of what he is aloud to do and he’s benefiting from that. Plus Eminem can rap about topics that other rapper can not, because it maybe be frowned upon. Look at his advantages and disadvantages then you will understand why he is high up there as a rapper.
What topic can he rhyme about that others can not? i would think it's more likely the other way around, i really haven't listened to his music after his Marshell Mathers LP so i have no clue about what he raps but i did hear a lot of hate towards him over the years and people calling him a guest so i can imagine there's many topics some people would claim he has no right to speak on.
@@inigo9000 You stopped at MMLP? You have to at least listen to The Eminem Show.
I kinda like your intake on this one.
@@inigo9000 you are the problem, you people hate on him or judge him when you haven't listened to 10% of his songs. The Eminem show, Relapse/refill, MMLP2, Revival, Kamikaze, MTBMB side a and b shoufl be listened
@@inigo9000 anybody can rhyme about anything, but the n word is a crutch for most rappers.
Mel is the new Lord Jamar. 🤣
+lowrekus wardlow hahaha basically though
The thing that Makes Em great is that all negativity has made him ,he was being hated on before he was Em,turns it around.still being hated on he'll turn it around and come out on top.
He's among the greats indeed, I love his energy, flow and the insanely well composed lyrics to fit his style. Unique like 2PAC but of course very different. Talent, skill and passion shines its own colors, it's art. If any of that 8 mile stuff is even loosely based in history he earned his place in the scene well before selling millions of albums. Having a legend deny him that saying it's thanks to his skin just makes me wonder if he's ever really seen or heard Em.
Eminem is a top 5 rapper clearly no matter the race , skin color , creed it doesn’t matter. The man is using the English language to his benefit. His wordplay is phenomenal. He clearly is the goat.
I just said this earlier about em. His word play with metaphors and similes are every thing to me honestly 🤷🏽♂️
Eminem changed the hip hop game forever. You can hate it or love it but that's a personal taste thing, but you can deny his legacy, that's why I love Em, the way he is and his music.
Nwa,LL,eminem,jay,nas kendrick & wayne are the main reason hiphop is where it's at
For Papoose to be giving Em his flowers like that is a surprise!
Em is nothing short of a legend. I think there’s rappers that are better than him but to say Eminem doesn’t have his place in the culture and is not a legendary MC and brilliant lyricist is disrespectful beyond words.
Agree n to be honest I don’t think there is a better rapper then him
@@dadlyfe8070 I respect your opinion but I disagree there’s plenty of better rappers but that’s my opinion.
@@Novelist1029 who would you say is better? Just curious
@@yozza4978
I. MF DOOM
2. Black Thought
3. Ghostface Killah
4. Jadakiss
5. Nas
6. Lupe Fiasco
7. Royce Da 5’9
8. RA the Rugged Man
9. Busta Rhymes
10. Method Man
11. Big Pun
@Novelist1029 I'd prolly have Em somewhere in the middle of your list but dam that's a great line up for sure. Hard to disagree with it
The way Fat Joe rolled his eyes when dude mentioned 50. 🤣
😂 fr though. Knew I couldn't be the only one who peeped that shit.
He ain't going to do nothing about tho. Dude had Papoose on right after. haha
Great conversation
“Who can make a song like Stan?” - discussion over!
Eminem was the inspiration behind Usher's classic album Confessions. He's transparent and the truth, the skill set is undeniable, one of the sickest rhyme schemes in the history of rap. And he's a music producer on top of that.
How was he the inspiration for confessions album
@@EndingVisions Usher confessed in an interview, try looking it up on RUclips.
@@EndingVisions I get your question, Usher said Shady inspired him to be transparent in his music, he said he had never heard someone keep it all the way 💯 and 50 in music like him, thus he was inspired to be honest and vulnerable in his music
Confessions is inspired by what happened to Jermaine Dupri
@@TheMastermindzTV On Sway interview, Usher ain’t said nothing about JD. Kindly don’t @ me G, just type Usher on Eminem here on RUclips. Peace
dude got mad af cuz em in da top5 but what about jay and kdot 1 and 2? aint no way jay and kdot better than nas, pac, em..
Kdot is better than Eminem & pac tho. He got way better albums, he's a better songwriter than both of em, he can rap way better than pac, but not em, he's far more consistent than pac & em, way better catalog of music, he's one of the most versatile & creative minds in hh.
@@youngbricksyg266
😂😂😂😂
You should be a comedian
@@youngbricksyg266 Are u serious, K Dot don't have Dear Mama, So Many Tears, I'm not going to even mention AEOM Book 1. The problem with these things is that we discussing with people who started listening to rap like 15yrs ago. We've been on this rap thing since '93
@@youngbricksyg266 lmfaooo stop smoking expired crack😂 Em and pac are 100x better than kdot on these you mentioned..
Jay is definitely better than Em
The fact Eminem exists proves that if you are a powerful enough lyricist, you can be respected anywhere.
But man. You gotta be DAMN good.
As Rakim said, real hip hop is art mimicking the streets, not the streets mimicking art
Melle Mel been salty since Willie D knocked him out lmao 🤣
I’d love to see a Papoose and Em collab.
I'd love to see Em and Papoose battle but Papoose is the only winner there.
@@jahdjnr5232 again only proving there point
The literal hardest part of being a RUclipsr is makes a coherent title.
Why cant people just give this man his props already?
When I listen to music, I don't listen to color, I listen to lyrics. Eminem is a 🐐
Joe talks too much should stop interrupting and Em is sick dont matter what skin tone he is. That skill is a God given talent
Lil Wayne is better
@@ICE-zf1cj Wayne is nice too I'm saying don't matter what color you are if you're nice you're nice
@@ICE-zf1cj lmao
Idk who the last guy was but i like his to the point opinion. "real people do real things". He only gave one song example, stan. Nuff said .
That’s Kevin gates
Yall on point Joe!!!
Black or white skills is skills puts some respect on Em's name
I didn’t expect Kevin gates at the end😂 he knows what’s up!💯
They need to stop tripping and give that man his flowers.
He's got a point about Eminem making words that end up in the dictionary. I was flabbergasted when I found out where Stan came from.
Tbh Eminem should be #1 that's sad he even at 5
And this is the reason he gets discredited....crazy ass fans
@@geronimopratt7976How is it crazy to put him at #1? Everyone in the game respects Em's pen. "You don't mess with the white boy."
@@Andreas-me8mlWith a catalog as inconsistent as his, he shouldn't be touching that number 1 spot
Who’s the guy in the last interview?
Kevin gates
Kevin Gates
Kevin Gates
No matter what anyone thinks, the sales and battle record speak for themselves.
He did it with so many different styles and killed it
Imagine if the races were flipped
As far as I'm concerned, Melly Mel didn't get personal approval from Pac's mom to produce his first posthumous album. That says a lot, especially because of the fact that Pac's mom was a Black Panther member. That single event alone tells you everything you need to know
+Skythunder Sky I personally don’t even agree with posthumous albums. Unless the artist made it entirely known that they wanted those records released. I feel like the artists legacy should be on their terms. Not the fans, not the families.
@@whatsthedirt I mean maybe, but it's more about his mom giving Em (a white man obv) personal approval to go ahead and produce the album. That speaks volumes, especially because his mom was a life long Black Panther member and activist. It's about validity and earning respect from and within the culture and not necessarily about the quality of the album itself, although I think that the album is one of Pac's best, which only adds to the respect and validity thing I've mentioned
@@skythundersky1544 Pac ain't dead.
If you listened to that album produced by Em PAC says things like "g unit in the house. 50. Banks." And on the Hennessey song with Obie Trice he says "big balling ass n***a name Trice." Obie Trice also says in his verse "P-Funk got it pumping, he had the connects." If you know anything about Kasinova the Don and him being connected with Pac and Kasinova also saying "P-Funk" in his music, there's a connection.
There's a clip on RUclips where Obie is on stage and says "everyone wanna believe PAC is dead but he's alive and he got braids now and he's living in Cuba." I even found a German magazine article where Obie was interviewed and he said he was flown to Cuba to record the Hennessey song and when he got to the studio he bugged out when he saw Tupac in the flesh. He said PAC had put on some weight and also had braids.
@@youngjdet Them meds are overdue. You better make sure to take 'em before it's too late
@@skythundersky1544 you the type of person to deny and dismiss stuff without even looking into it first. I should've expected that from someone who just plays video games all day.
After all these years, it's the same record. These haters have nothing new. I've heard haters repeat their hate so much, my hand gonna be on autoslap, as soon the first word come out.
How crazy is it that when you are that dam good that biggest name rappers have med respect so cool so we all just need to work together and life be better
Everyone knows Em is a legend!! One of the nicest to ever do it.
Clearly you don't know most of the nicest to ever do it. Either that or you are just racially biased.
@@jahdjnr5232 lol kinda like how your completely biased lmao keep running your mouth your only proving everyone's point
Hahaha nobody’s racially biased. He’s ONE of the nicest point blank. Look at Joe’s face in the video when he talks about him.