Aliona Kostornaia pairs feel so Barbie: She’s everything! She’s the star, she’s the famous one, she’s spectacular. And he’s just Ken :) LMAOO, that’s so funny 😭
I visited the Russian Test Skates and Kamila's short was giving such an energy. Absolutely enjoyed watching her, and I even got "Tuktamysheva vibes", like when u really feel the skater is living their best life when performing. I hope she would stay in the sport for long❤
Pretty much agree with everything you said. The Kamila situation really is so sad. I truly believe she’s actually super talented and her career is ruined because of her damn coaches and whichever other adults contributed to the situation she’s in. Aliona looked beautiful and their skill level was better than I thought it would be, but their chemistry needs serious work. I don’t think they’ll podium either unless they miraculously get way better suddenly. And I loved Kamila’s short but that free was just obnoxious. And Kaori….I still love her and she’s still a solid competitor but those programs were way disappointing compared to what we’re used to seeing from her.
You don't just truly believe it. Everybody that witnessed her skating believes it. Kamila Valieva is quite simply the best skater in history. If you watch her career from when she was 6 years old onwards, and watch her off ice dance routines, she moves like a prima ballerina she's absolutely stunning. I've never seen such exquisite body lines on a figure skater. Her poise, flexibility, fluidity, extensions, ballet hands, everything just stunning. The one thing one could say is that the jumping technique is poor but that is taught by a coach and that's not her fault. If Mishin or Brian Orser trainer then she would have phenomenal jumping technique. But eteri doesn't train for longevity, she only trains for quick runs to the Olympic gold and then they walk away. I don't think we'll ever see a skater like Kamila, the very least, nobody will ever surpass her. As for her programs, I was not crazy about the short program song but she did it very very well. The free straight song as well not crazy about but she still is so beautiful to watch even if she needs to lose a little bit of weight and become accustomed to her new height.
I don’t see why people would have a problem with her doing a Black Panther theme. There was no mockery on her part. Kamila is talented enough that if she put more African elements in her FS I would have liked it. Her FS fell short for me. I also got a lil emotional when Maia skated I loved the saying ‘Maia can!’
@@donnyslader9025 Can you tell me what you were going for in your comment, exactly? People who support the athletes can only explain why, not help you understand. But keep practicing, you’ll learn to speak with grace someday. 😘
Really happy for Donovan!! He's stepping up his technique and trying difficult jumping elements he could barely land before. It will take some time, but I'm rooting for him!
I actually think Liza still has chance to podium, she got bronze medal at both Rusnats and Russian GPF last season. Akateva and Petrosian are good but they are very inconsistent, they literally never managed to perform two clean programs last season. There is a new Eteri girl named Daria Sadkova who jumps quads but is also very inconsistent and lacks artistry. And Plushenko students are actually quite underscored, I don’t really believe Zhilina and Muravieva will be able to surpass Liza. So Kamila is the only true rival of Liza, but Kamila might face suspension from also domestic competitions, I am curious to see what will happen
Also Liza has a solid Triple Axel. Plus she has been perfecting her Quads, incredible at her age. I know Roman Kostomarov and Tatiana Navka won gold in the Olympics in ice dance a few years ago…..she was about 31 I think,but ice dance is not single skating. Much more difficulty and stress on body,but I really wanted the Empress to get a chance at the Olympics. She would be 30 by the next one. I was disappointed they did not take her as a back up in Beijing, if for respect if nothing else,and recognition for all her work. I’m elderly and just hope I’m alive to see the next one. I was privileged to see Grinkov and Gordeeva years ago,so I’m glad for that.
@@GrippiAlex how are Liza's quads? Did she do any in her test skate programs? I would love for her to get them consistent and prove everyone wrong! I saw her practicing them on insta a few months ago and she was still stumbling :(
@@briannacox4878 she has posted her quad somewhere on RUclips. It was solid. I don’t believe it was a quad Axel but it’s incredible that she has added them to her repertoire at her age.
I think it’s so stupid that ppl are so soft to be offended about her wakanda program. cultures share their own THATS what make us come together. I think her doing this program shows respect. She’s so good
If the Russian Federation have brains they are going to get behind Liza and push her to literally win everything to show they can have longevity in the sport and show reliability. She is their most interesting athlete when she is not depressed because of favoritism to the younger girls half her age
I agree but they will never do that. Tuktamysheva was not sent to the olympics. I don't know if you recall the controversy. Tuktamysheva had 2 ultra c elements. But Anna had no quads and no triple axel at nationals. But Russia wanted to prove a point to the world by sending children.
@@Jeremy-wp4yhHad they sent Liza, at least they would have had a stable adult amongst the children during the controversy. Plus Liza is a true performer and crowd pleaser. Politics kept her from 3 Olympics. Sad. She’s my fav skater.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh so sad how she missed 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022 Olympics and now with the ban it must be so demotivating having to wait for the 2030 Olympics
the most underrated russian girl at test skates is ksenia sinitsyna!! i didn't like her short but her FREE?? SO GOOD. ATE. i wish more ppl would talk ab her bc she's my new fav
The thing that annoys me about the kamila situation is that she's good enough to do without the help of banned substances She was the girl who could in my eyes for a long time then the scandal hit and it was like Have I been rooting for drugs for years or an actual person?
Nope. I don't think the Russians are capable. Think about sotnikova on 2014. She couldn't rotate triples and she was also doping. Unfortunately it's embedded into Russian sports.
I had the same thoughts, they could have her win everything with correct jumping technique, she didn’t need ‘help’. She could have become a yuna type skater where you just wait to see her and het unique talent. There was never quad revolution, it was with help of judges and other “aid” and it’s sad that they broke the girls like that.
It's such a sad situation. I believe she could have won everything without drugs. She has the talent and a level of artistry rarely seen combined with the right body type and work ethic. But we'll never know.
Kamila's costume/outfit for the free looked cool, I don't understand what the big fuss is all about, She's probably never going to compete internationally ever again so people need to just get off her back, and let the girl skate, it's what she does best!
It is bizarre to me that a white person can’t be a fan of Black Panther and do a performance to the music. She didn’t do anything offensive. Jordan Chiles did a Wonder Woman floor routine and nobody complained.
Wonder woman doesnt stand for whiteness or smth. Black panther is a very black thing that has meaning for some. It‘s not „offensive“ but it‘s strange and pointless and gives appropriation vibes
@@Ryusevi t is not appropriation to dress up or create a show about a FICTIONAL super hero. You do realize Wakanada is not a real city, country, or culture. Anyway. I think she did an excellent job with the theme and did nothing inappropriate.
My partner and I attended the Autumn Classic! We mostly went to see Edrian Celestino, which was really nice. It was so fun to see everyone live. I agree 100% when you say you enjoyed Kevin Aymoz's free despite the overdone bolero, it was a pleasant surprise.
I thought the wakanda free skate was such a letdown. They could’ve incorporated west African dance in the choreography, I mean the music had the drama and the drums. They could’ve done so much more with it especially since we don’t get to see African inspired programs apart from the Egyptian/North African/Middle Eastern programs.
Love Kamila's short. It's a shame that they didn't bother showing off her personality and giving her good packaging until now, when she faces a big ban
I think adelia has promise. She was determined to be the first woman to do a quad loop. With time she can be consistent. Aliona and her husband looked like they were skating by numbers. Hopefully with time they'll improve. The main season should be fun as many slaters who were out last year because of injury are returning.
I can help but love Kamila's performances. I love Donovan Carrillo, and I get frustrated when he does bad, I hope he can focus and keep getting better.
I love Kamila Valieva, I stand with her through the good and bad. I truly think what is happening with this scandal is f'ing tragic, I pray it doesn't destroy her career. I may be biased but I don't think anyone has the artistry and skill she has. That is not to take away from all the other incredible skaters. As you said, she could give so much to the world of figure skating internationally.
I actually love her I think she's the most talented skater in the history of the sport in terms of women. I am praying for a good outcome on Monday and that she has a beautiful future whatever she chooses
Kaori SP has a good level of complexity, people just doesn't like it bc it's a classical emotional piece and label it as "boring" bc is not pump music or contemporary dance or something quirky. But what she's showing is a BIG improvement from her 2018-19 SP From My First Moment: better lines, better flow, better interpretation. I'd agree that FS can be better, but also Elastic Heart wasn't ready last autumn, so maybe there's room for improvement. Nakano/Graham did a really good job understanding their skaters, their strengths and weaknesses, and build around them programs that makes sense and have identity, by choosing interesting choreographers even when the music choices are not the greatest. The problem here is that Sysmex camp can build super strong fundamentals and polish the skating at an amazing level, but is falling behind more necessary elements where other japanese and korean coaches are catching up.
Kamila is so talented and I really hate the position she got put in. I loved her short. The FS I didn't care for, as much as I love the BP soundtrack, it doesn't work as well for skating.
I'm gonna say smth rare and very personal. When a person is truly talented by heart and spirit, even a major tragedy such as possibly never received a golden medal, even through such sorrow Kamila has been brightening as a person. She's young as hell, yet she'd demostrarted consistency, endurance, discipline and the intelligent sensitivity to express her soul on performances where she creates a mobile work of art with the choreography and an imponent display of technique. I find the joint experience of being Russian and a Tatar, Ortodox tradition, and an ancient Muslim legacy with the cultural richness of the wide Turkic ethnicity.
It's a real shame there are not more people defending Kamila in here but given the material this woman posts, it's hardly surprising. Yes, she is a sportsperson in the truest sense of the word and her culture, artistry and capabilities are obvious
Hi, Paola! Congratulations on the 100k subscribers. Thank you for covering so many topics and scandals about Figure Skating. Seeing your video timeline makes me realize how long I've been invested in the sport, and your content is a part of what makes me stay. I'm sure other people feel the same way, so thank you!
Weird thought: What if Sasha is only taking a break from competitions for one or two seasons and come back for the next Olympics? With the new trainer she might have a chance to heal till then and at the next Olympics the age limit might prefent most russians to do quads so if she keeps one or two till then, she might have a chance to qualify
Two news on the Valieva case 1. Hearings in the case of Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva at CAS have been postponed and will continue on November 9-10. 2. A very important detail in the case of Kamila Valieva - it turned out that informing her about a positive doping test was carried out with a significant violation of the rules. So, first the athlete must be notified about it, and then everyone else. Well, or at least simultaneously. But in this case, it turned out the other way around - the ISU and the IOC received the notification first, and Kamila herself, as sources say, learned about it “from headquarters.” Theoretically, this is precisely what can justify how information about the sample was leaked to the press before the official announcement, which in turn created a colossal resonance. And, as a result, pressure on the parties to the process.
Let me ask you a couple of things... 1. Will the CAS consider it a violation on WADA's part that Kamila's test result was delayed 45 days, and will it play a role in their decision for Russia to keep their OG medal, and 2.will Kamila's team bring up the case of McKenzie Headley , a 15 year old swimmer who was reprimanded for multiple doping violations because she's a protected person?....what are your thoughts on that??
@@doomdozer26 There is also a violation of the WADA code, this is the leak of information about the result of Kamila’s test into the public space. This information is strictly confidential, since Kamila is a protected person because she is a minor. For her protection. It is necessary to conduct an investigation into how this information got to journalists. And punish the person responsible who did it. As for information from the court, how the process is going, what is being considered, etc. We do not have such information in Russia, it is not available to us - the Russian side strictly observes the confidentiality of the process. Personally, I think that what is required is: 1. An investigation into WADA’s activities in creating a list of prohibited substances. 2. Investigation into the activities of WADA and USADA in issuing exemptions to American athletes. Publicly disclose American athletes who competed at the Beijing Games with medical exceptions. In fact, they received permission to perform with prohibited drugs in their bodies, that is, with doping. There are a lot of questions for WADA, ISU, and IOC.
@@doomdozer26thank you for bringing up Mackenzie and some common sense. I'm hoping that we will have good news on Monday and that Kamila will not be banned and she will only receive a reprimand as we all know that she did not do anything and her coaches are to blame
How can someone look at Veronika Zhilina and say the only thing noteworthy about her is that she has a sister whilst simultaneously praising Kamila Valieva for technical quality? Admittedly she’s inconsistent but Zhilina’s quad jumps and more around and legit than any of the other ones we’ve seen in the Russian girls. Also just not keen to be a fan of Valieva anything while Russia is actively screwing real clean athletes out of their medals, endorsements, and other experiences. Ffs what is happening to her is bad, but what’s happening to the other victims is bad enough that going boohoo the Russian girls deserve to compete irritates me.
I'd love Ilia Malinin to do a program to small town boy by Bronski Beat at some point. I think it would be the perfect mix of musicality he can use to build up his storytelling and moments for great jumps which he's known for. I think it would be an iconic program where everyone would be like "Remember Ilia's small town boy program? How awesome was that".
@@EVA-sw8wo If they allow her transfer she will skate for Kazakhstan. Which will make her for Plushenko’s only student who is Olympic bound. I’m sure he’ll be putting the most energy into working with her
@@abrinich2321oh i see, thank you for the info. If she manages to switch and Russians won't be allowed back she will be a contender for gold at the Olympics! Even if the Russians will be back she is still a mendal contender. It makes sense Plush to invest in her.
All of the other skaters are also banned internationally cause they have russian passport and are not accepted by other countries despite like a few skaters who already had 2nd passport
She’s so underrated, her artistry is just something else, and I’m glad to see her trying something other than tender lullabies (even if it’s not so radical)
8:47 Nancy Kerrigan did "Man, I Feel Like A Woman" with zero confidence in the song or her ability to look hot whatsoever so often its a coaches' confidence in the routine over and above the skater, at least in the post 90s skating world.
OMG! I remember this! lol... Edit: God, the mid 90s was IT when it comes to skating! As a child, I felt as if those pro comps were just as important as the grand prix events lol
Maybe Kevin Aymoz doing Bolero is a reminder of Kamila as a silent protest in solidarity of other athletes criticizing the delay from the trials. Have you seen Vincent’s statement!? 🤯
I absolutely love your channel! You are hilarious I died at the hammer and Bolero comment 😂 I mostly agree with you but wouldn’t count Elizaveta Tuktamysheva out of the running for the Russian podium just yet. After all she’s been consistent, has a 3A in her arsenal, artistry, stage presence and last season even got on the podium right up there with Kamila Valieva and Sofia Akateva. It’s still crazy to me that she’s was skating competitively long before and after the retirement of younger skaters like Evgenia Medvedeva, Alina Zagatova, Alexandra Trusova and Anna Sherbakova … but I guess that is the Eteri way.
Honestly kind of strange commentary about Alena's husbands appearance and how they wont ever podium? It's their very first season skating pairs. And yeah flame is not necessary in all pairs/dance elements. It looks like they have work/life separation and celebrated a successful test skate. Plenty of great sibling pairs/dance skaters.
is mainly shows lack of care from her coaches. She is supposed to be rested and not make lots of physical effort. She showed herself at the Olympics when she competed under a crazy amount of pressure
@@donnyslader9025it is not her fault that the war is going on. all her other samples were clean including the ones at the Olympic Games. it may have not been her total fault the substances were in her body. and I meant character of strength.
i think with kaori, and this is just a suspicion which may be more to do with her coaches than her, is that when she won worlds in 2022, it was completley unexpected- she'd done soemthing no one ever thought she would because of the russian children dominating. Becasue she managed that, i felt like the 2022-2023 season was one where she pushed boundaries much more because there was less on the line- she was already world champion and no one could take that away from her. This season, however, after she dominated 22/23, and won worlds etc again, maybe her, maybe her coaching, wants to see how long she can win for- becasue she's more than proved she can. I think that they may have gone for safer programs becasue they dont want to risk her losing out due to risky programs when they know realistically she can do so so well again this year...
Kaori is a fake champion...The only reason she is even a world champion is because Russia was banned for political reasons...if not for the ban, even if Liza was instead of Kamila, she would not see the podium....and at 2023 WC she would definitely not see the podium since her scores declined the whole season...and I'm sure she's reminded of that every day....
Her programs are very dissapointing this season, I hope Loena does something good this season and takes the World title away from her, Kaori´s programs are not gold medal worthy.
Kinda agree. They've got her a program that doesn't push too much technically, they are letting her explore different choreos bc she won Worlds back-to-back, so she's settled her name and can basically do what she wants. She's having fun competing. Also she kinda knows that she's getting to the final stages of her skating career anyway: she hinted in some interviews that conventional retiring age is 24-26. Maybe this season she just wants to unwind and get some pressure off by having something less demanding for her programs.
I think with a bit more time and runthroughs ilias sp could become a real banger. He has got the movements, but im hoping he will be able to fill it with emotion just like he did with the sp last season.
Is it me or Kamila looks like she has put on a bit more healthy weight. She is still very skinny obviously, but looks a bit more muscular? Maybe thats why she didn't have any quats
I actually prefer her like this! Always better to have healthy longer carrier then one day wonders, even if they don't preform quads! They all should strive to be like the empress.
Kamila recently did a short interview where she said "the biggest myth about fs is it's for emaciated 15yo girls." Was she trying to say something without saying it?
The Empress is STILL SKATING!?!....What is the world coming to?!..Good for her hopefully her season is a good one...On wait I forgot she's banned too...DAMN!!
I'm late to the part but oh well Regarding god himself. Even tho he's still far from delivering programs like Yuzu, Shoma, Nathan and Junhwan, I can see he's trying to build up his name and develop his own style. He's trying to prove he's more than his quad axel. Right now we only know it's Ilia skating because we see his face and name on the screen but I feel like one day he's gonna have that unique style, that signature move or that jump combination that will make us go _"that's Ilia"_ without the need to see his face or name on the screen (he kinda already does that when he spins but maybe that's just me). The costumes were an improvement from the last ones but (imo) still not as iconic as his blue _"quad axel"_ costume (even his hair was cute!!!). I liked the short program costume better, I feel like that's how you're supposed to do a black shirt, black pants, black everything costume and not the nonsense he wore in Tokyo. At first I was confused by his free costume because I had no idea what was going on with it, but then I realized it was a heart and now I find it cute. Now when it comes to his hair... he's just like any other man, he cuts his hair just when it's starting to look cute (again, his hair in the quad axel costume!!! IT WAS SO PRETTY!!!)
I think it's too early to talk about the fall of Akatieva, but it's really sad to see Zhilina in this state. I hope that nobody ever again moves to Plushenko, they don't know how to raise competitive skaters. Maybe good performers but that's it.
Zhilina had the best free program of all the Russian girls:What the fuck are you talking about. And she was the only one to do a quand at the russian tests. Kamila Valieva was completely out of shape and all the Eteri girls were out of shape too
Zhillina is in a very good state! She skated the best short program of her entire career! And a pretty good long program! Her technique is excellent both spins and jumps and her skating skills are very good, great flexibility... she just need to learn how to perform a bit and improve consistency which was worse when she was with Tut. As for Akatieva she just came out of an injury so it too early to talk
@@EVA-sw8wo Rn I don't agree on Zhilina bc since she switched to Plushenko she didn't show such an amazing growth in my opinion (and also when she switched she was already doing very difficult elements in all departments). But I'll give credit to AoP for the choreos and such: they managed to refine Trusova very well and I think this is also happening for Zhilina. But for the amount of potential she has, she should be giving more imo. Let's see how it unfolds tho, they are all very young and the road to improvement is very long.
@@aronhelios1734 Maybe but we will never know how she would have done with Tut, she might have been better or worse who knows. In my opinion she is doing fine now. And tbh i dont think being with Eteri or Plush matters much as her real coach was always her mother! Her mother taught her the amazing technique and jumps but somehow she couldn't help with consistency. Her sister Alena was never with Eteri or Plush, but she has the same good technique, can do the 3A and quads and has unfortunately the same consistency issues. I think Plush i packaging her quite well in terms of program and choreography, but it is too early in the season to say whether her consistency is still the same or has improved.
Hate Camilla’s fawning over the boards. Just ick with all those old guys watching on. Was that Tarosova there as well? Must have been laughing on the inside as well as out loud.
In Beijing, before the performances, Camila took a doping test, the results were negative. Kamila was a pure athlete and had no advantages over other athletes. Claim against Kamila for the test she took in 2021 before the Russian Championship. The result of a sample taken from Valieva in December 2021 in St. Petersburg and sent for research to the WADA laboratory in Stockholm was supposed to be made public two weeks before the start of the Olympics (the standard research period is 20 days), but it was reported only on February 8 2022. The laboratory violated the research deadline for more than a month. The laboratory indicated the presence of trimetazidine in the tests below the minimum standard. There are a lot of questions in Russia: why did the laboratory provide results only after Kamila’s birth in Beijing? If the laboratory had not violated the deadline, another figure skater would have been included in the Russian team, for example Liza Tuktamysheva. We suspect that this was done on purpose so that Russian girls would not take all three places on the podium. Second question: Why and who at WADA violated the secrecy of information about a protected person? Who gave this information to journalists with the aim of creating a public scandal? This is a serious violation of the WADA code, and a criminal act against the minor athlete Kamila. Why is no one looking into this violation?
The results of the doping test were not announced early because the party sending the sample did not notify that the sample should be examined as a priority and urgently as it should have been. Kamila's identity was not directly disclosed, it was announced that a skater who represented Team Russia in the Team Event competition and who was under the age of 16 tested positive for doping, and since Kamila was the only minor in the team, people figured out who was that person on their own
@@sirena3470 You are wrong. There are established deadlines for obtaining results for WADA-accredited laboratories. This is 20 days. No additional requests are required. In exceptional cases, it is possible to contact the laboratory to urgently obtain a result, but it is not mandatory for the laboratory. Based on Kamila’s tests, the laboratory admitted that the deadline had been violated, but argued that it was a pandemic. WADA was satisfied with this argument. In Russia, this is perceived as a corruption conspiracy. Any statement that clearly points to a specific person, even without naming his name, is clearly defined as factual. People at WADA who made such a statement violated the WADA code. They need to be sued and held accountable!
@@12Gennady Yes, you are right about the delay also being due to Covid, I just researched and there is such a statement by the laboratory. But about the other issue, since the Olympics is the most prestigious competition in the world and is followed by millions of people, they had to make an explanation to the public as to why the medals were not given to their winners. If they didn’t announce which Team’s athlete tested positive, the clean athletes from the other Teams could have been unfairly blamed and questioned by the public until the investigation was over. It made more sense to reveal which Team’s member was caught doping, rather than putting dozens of clean athletes under suspicion. I also agree that it was very unfortunate for Kamila, the child probably had the worst days of her life, but it was even more worrisome that they found 3 heart medications (one of which was banned) in the body of a 15 year old child
Even if it happened before the OG it doesn´t matter, it was there in her system, therefore her results from that competition are gonna be non existing making her future results invalid too, since it will make it as if she wasn´t there in the first place. Give Trusova the 2022 Russ Nats and Scherbakova the European title and that´s it.
@@mharlon09. You can have your opinion, but there is a WADA code. The WADA Code applies to specific athletes, about some systems (which you are talking about) it doesn't say anything. But it says there the fact of a positive doping test to make a decision on an athlete for WADA not enough, WADA will definitely consider how the drug ended up in the athlete’s body. This is necessary in order to exclude intentional introduction of a drug into the body athlete and laboratory errors. For example: American figure skater Jessica Calalang performing in tandem with Brian Johnson, officially in returns to the ice after violating anti-doping rules. The athlete passed a positive doping test, in which a prohibited substance was detected - the stimulant 4-CPA. Kalalang faced up to four years of disqualification, however the skater managed to avoid severe punishment, and has already eight months later, all charges against her were dropped. During this time, the American Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) in collaboration with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) investigated Jessica's case and concluded that The drug entered the body of a 26-year-old athlete accidentally. Expertise has proven its presence in cosmetics, which the skater used. As a result, Kalalang was fully acquitted and restored to participation rights in international competitions. In the case of Jessica Kalang, WADA agreed with the decision USADA, and in Camille's case, WADA did not agree with the decision RUSADA, although Jessica has the drug and the dose in her body much more serious than trimezedine. Therefore, WADA decided to challenge RUSADA’s decision in the CAS court. The delay in Kamila’s case was also not her fault Kamila and the Russian side. Your proposal to distribute titles has nothing to do with sports relationship. We ask you: try before you write, find a solution. To avoid creating a false understanding from people who read your opinion.
Hii new to ice skating here. Could you put the names of all the skaters within the next video? Having a hard time hearing their names so I can look up their career/other performances 🥲
0:48 - Video Starts [0:55] 🇺🇸 Ilia MALININ [1:21] 🇯🇵 Shoma UNO (mentioned) [3:10] 🇷🇺 Alexandra TRUSOVA (mentioned) [3:14] 🇺🇸 Nathan CHEN (mentioned) [3:43] 🇫🇷 Kevin AYMOZ [5:56] 🇷🇺 Kamila VALIEVA (mentioned) [7:08] 🇨🇦 Stephen GOGOLEV [7:26] 🇲🇽 Donovan CARILLO [9:40] 🇺🇲 Adam RIPPON (mentioned) [9:50] 🇯🇵 Kaori SAKAMOTO 12:09 - Russian Test Skates 🇷🇺 [12:50] Kamila VALIEVA [13:50] Aliona KOSTORNAIA (mentioned) (14:40 - "Team Tutberidze" referring to the coaching team of Eteri Tutberidze) [17:40] Aliona KOSTORNAIA/Georgy KUNITSA (20:00 - Anna SHCHERBAKOVA [in the picture, left]) [21:17] Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA "the Empress" [22:38] Alexei MISHIN (coach, mentioned) [22:46] Maiia KHROMYKH [22:53] Daria USACHEVA (mentioned) [22:55] Alexandra TRUSOVA (mentioned) [22:57] Anna SHCHERBAKOVA "Shcherbs" (mentioned) (23:40 - "Shcherbs power of will" referring to Anna's distinct ability to pull through when it matters most, most significant instance was her gold-winning 2022 Olympic performance) [23:44] Sofya AKATIEVA [26:10] Alina GORBACHEVA (26:28 - "Coach of the hour" referring to coach, Sofia Fedchenko) (28:20 - "Angels of Plushenko" referring to the skating team of coach, Evgeni Plushenko) [28:22] Veronika ZHILINA (29:00 - "Sister" referring to Alena Zhilina) (29:08 - "Crazy mom" referring to Ludmila Alferova) [29:22] 🇰🇷 Jun-hwan CHA (mentioned) [29:58] Adeliia PETROSYAN [31:20] Evgenia "Zhenya" MEDVEDEVA (mentioned) [31:50] Sofia MURAVIEVA 34:03 - Russian Test Skates end + closing comments [34:04] 🇷🇺 Mark KONDRATIUK [36:22] 🇺🇸 Amber GLENN [36:25] 🇺🇸 Isabeau LEVITO Welcome to the zealous world of Figure Skating. There are very many prominent names, camps/teams, scandals, etc. and other rife topics that make this- let's say a very intricate sport. People are very defensive and passionate here so to speak, especially concerning corruption, scores, artistry and jumping technique, and whatnot. Just a heads up. Edit: all the mentions and terms might have been excessive, I'm sorry.
I think her short became much more meaningful to me when she said that she chose the music "Baby, God bless you" in tribute of her new niece and nephew - so cute! Hope you enjoy Skate Canada!
Bolero is always red, I wonder why, also I think Kamilia technical skills have declined alot, shes struggling on her triple triples at the beginning of the program
She has gained a lot of weight and some height since Beijing. She just needs to adjust and relearn how to jump with her new weight since we all know Eteri's technique only works with extremely low body weight
@@RedShoes29 Yeah she grew like 2-3 inches and is not as thin as before but I think she could prob still jump her quad toe since it's her best and biggest jump
Hi! I’m new to the channel! I appreciate the PASSION you bring to your videos!! And I’ve learned a TON of information and taken on points of view. Are you a former skater?? Are you Russian?? Just curious….
imma say that maybe donovan isn’t landing jumps because he recently had a surgery and he was on physical therapy, tho, im also gonna add that if u are a professional athlete u have to land ur jumps one way or another. but my cutie patootie is working hard with a brand new coach
From 2001 to 2021, the United States committed aggression against Afghanistan and occupation of Afghanistan. From 2003 to 2021, the United States committed military aggression against Iraq and occupation of Iraq. In 2011, the United States committed aggression against Libya. All this time, the entire US team participated in the Winter Olympic Games and Summer Olympic Games. Why wasn't the US suspended? Why was the IOC silent? Why was Thomas Bach silent? He was a member of the IOC from 1991 to 1996, a member of the IOC Executive Committee from 1996 to 2000, Vice President of the IOC from 2000 to 2004, and was again elected Vice President of the IOC in 2006. He headed a number of IOC commissions. As of September 2013, he headed the IOC Legal Commission and the Sports and Law Commission. In 2013 he was elected President of the IOC. During the entire period of his work, he never spoke about US military aggression. The question is why? Was he interested in remaining silent? What was his interest in remaining silent: in the position of President? in money? Was it corruption?
Kamila was gorgeous in her SP but choreo looked kinda like bolero 2.0, Danny G could do better. FS was giving nothing, sorry, it's just not it (Danny G could do better). And I completely disagree with you about the Jacksons, Zhilina was amazing (besides the jumps), the costume, the choreo, the program itself was way better, more memorable and more entertaining than Petrosyan. Adeliya's program was too bland imo (again, Danny G could do better) Also, Veronika's sister switched to pairs
Just make sure to do a video about the Kamila Court Case....Which is a stupid thing to ask, because I already know your going to do one, because it's skating-related, and it's going to affect a lot of things...
due to a copyright claim parts of this video have been cut out. Sorry for the random cuts 😥
Aliona Kostornaia pairs feel so Barbie: She’s everything! She’s the star, she’s the famous one, she’s spectacular. And he’s just Ken :)
LMAOO, that’s so funny 😭
frfr
and i love that for her; imho, she really has the it factor
at least he's landing his jumps
hottest figure skater ever
I visited the Russian Test Skates and Kamila's short was giving such an energy. Absolutely enjoyed watching her, and I even got "Tuktamysheva vibes", like when u really feel the skater is living their best life when performing. I hope she would stay in the sport for long❤
I'm black, both of my parents are Nigerian..I didn't mind her skating to wakanda what so ever. My problem is the doping lol
Lol
Kamila looks soo different, like she’s matured..
It’s a shame the adults around her chose their personal glory over her success and happiness
For sure, feels like she's a woman now, not a starved little girl... I'm here for it 🙌
@@Philippadrinksteashe is 17, still very much not a woman, you are being creepy
it's not that deep
@@Philippadrinkstea i find it interesting how people almost without fault equate slimness with starvation
@@FanyLI 👋👋amen
Pretty much agree with everything you said. The Kamila situation really is so sad. I truly believe she’s actually super talented and her career is ruined because of her damn coaches and whichever other adults contributed to the situation she’s in. Aliona looked beautiful and their skill level was better than I thought it would be, but their chemistry needs serious work. I don’t think they’ll podium either unless they miraculously get way better suddenly. And I loved Kamila’s short but that free was just obnoxious. And Kaori….I still love her and she’s still a solid competitor but those programs were way disappointing compared to what we’re used to seeing from her.
You don't just truly believe it. Everybody that witnessed her skating believes it. Kamila Valieva is quite simply the best skater in history. If you watch her career from when she was 6 years old onwards, and watch her off ice dance routines, she moves like a prima ballerina she's absolutely stunning. I've never seen such exquisite body lines on a figure skater. Her poise, flexibility, fluidity, extensions, ballet hands, everything just stunning. The one thing one could say is that the jumping technique is poor but that is taught by a coach and that's not her fault. If Mishin or Brian Orser trainer then she would have phenomenal jumping technique. But eteri doesn't train for longevity, she only trains for quick runs to the Olympic gold and then they walk away. I don't think we'll ever see a skater like Kamila, the very least, nobody will ever surpass her.
As for her programs, I was not crazy about the short program song but she did it very very well. The free straight song as well not crazy about but she still is so beautiful to watch even if she needs to lose a little bit of weight and become accustomed to her new height.
I don’t see why people would have a problem with her doing a Black Panther theme. There was no mockery on her part. Kamila is talented enough that if she put more African elements in her FS I would have liked it. Her FS fell short for me. I also got a lil emotional when Maia skated I loved the saying ‘Maia can!’
Полностью согласна. Немного африканских элементов- было бы еще круче.
I totally agree, the only ones that would really care are the americans, and is stupid really
I was appalled.
@@ashleymeggan You shouId be ashamed of yourseIf. A 15 year old girl was drugged and you blame and mock her.
❤ Kamila Valieva.
Aliona and her husband lowkey be giving the same vibes as she's everything and he's just ken.
that's exactly what i thought, the once top figure skater in the world and him who's just there
@@miidnxghts Thank you Aliona for helping this guy get some fame
Alyona!!! and husband!!! Team to watch. She is gorgeous, entertaining, and should never be underestimated!😂❤🎉
Agree!! I hope they make it to the top in pairs! I really like Aliona ❤️
@@donnyslader9025 why does it matter to you at all? Who exactly do you think you are lol
@@donnyslader9025 Can you tell me what you were going for in your comment, exactly? People who support the athletes can only explain why, not help you understand. But keep practicing, you’ll learn to speak with grace someday. 😘
Really happy for Donovan!! He's stepping up his technique and trying difficult jumping elements he could barely land before. It will take some time, but I'm rooting for him!
I actually think Liza still has chance to podium, she got bronze medal at both Rusnats and Russian GPF last season. Akateva and Petrosian are good but they are very inconsistent, they literally never managed to perform two clean programs last season. There is a new Eteri girl named Daria Sadkova who jumps quads but is also very inconsistent and lacks artistry. And Plushenko students are actually quite underscored, I don’t really believe Zhilina and Muravieva will be able to surpass Liza. So Kamila is the only true rival of Liza, but Kamila might face suspension from also domestic competitions, I am curious to see what will happen
Also Liza has a solid Triple Axel. Plus she has been perfecting her Quads, incredible at her age. I know Roman Kostomarov and Tatiana Navka won gold in the Olympics in ice dance a few years ago…..she was about 31 I think,but ice dance is not single skating. Much more difficulty and stress on body,but I really wanted the Empress to get a chance at the Olympics. She would be 30 by the next one. I was disappointed they did not take her as a back up in Beijing, if for respect if nothing else,and recognition for all her work. I’m elderly and just hope I’m alive to see the next one. I was privileged to see Grinkov and Gordeeva years ago,so I’m glad for that.
@@GrippiAlex how are Liza's quads? Did she do any in her test skate programs? I would love for her to get them consistent and prove everyone wrong! I saw her practicing them on insta a few months ago and she was still stumbling :(
@@briannacox4878 she has posted her quad somewhere on RUclips. It was solid. I don’t believe it was a quad Axel but it’s incredible that she has added them to her repertoire at her age.
I think it’s so stupid that ppl are so soft to be offended about her wakanda program. cultures share their own THATS what make us come together. I think her doing this program shows respect. She’s so good
If the Russian Federation have brains they are going to get behind Liza and push her to literally win everything to show they can have longevity in the sport and show reliability. She is their most interesting athlete when she is not depressed because of favoritism to the younger girls half her age
I agree but they will never do that. Tuktamysheva was not sent to the olympics. I don't know if you recall the controversy. Tuktamysheva had 2 ultra c elements. But Anna had no quads and no triple axel at nationals. But Russia wanted to prove a point to the world by sending children.
@@Jeremy-wp4yhexactly!!!! Liza obviously should have gone over Anna.
@@Jeremy-wp4yhHad they sent Liza, at least they would have had a stable adult amongst the children during the controversy. Plus Liza is a true performer and crowd pleaser. Politics kept her from 3 Olympics. Sad. She’s my fav skater.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh so sad how she missed 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022 Olympics and now with the ban it must be so demotivating having to wait for the 2030 Olympics
Not after the whole world heard she was on meldonium, so Liza is actually a proof that you can't skate like russians do without cheats
the most underrated russian girl at test skates is ksenia sinitsyna!! i didn't like her short but her FREE?? SO GOOD. ATE. i wish more ppl would talk ab her bc she's my new fav
I also love her skating style but she is mostly ignored since she doesn’t jump triple axel or quads 😕
she's still skating ⁉️ ong
Love to watch Liza skate! I hope she doesn’t retire!
"She's not really a contender for a podium"
Also Liza getting on a podium in the last season
@@antong1036im crying why nobody trusting her when she's clearly so talented
The thing that annoys me about the kamila situation is that she's good enough to do without the help of banned substances
She was the girl who could in my eyes for a long time then the scandal hit and it was like
Have I been rooting for drugs for years or an actual person?
Nope. I don't think the Russians are capable. Think about sotnikova on 2014. She couldn't rotate triples and she was also doping. Unfortunately it's embedded into Russian sports.
I had the same thoughts, they could have her win everything with correct jumping technique, she didn’t need ‘help’. She could have become a yuna type skater where you just wait to see her and het unique talent.
There was never quad revolution, it was with help of judges and other “aid” and it’s sad that they broke the girls like that.
It's such a sad situation. I believe she could have won everything without drugs. She has the talent and a level of artistry rarely seen combined with the right body type and work ethic. But we'll never know.
@@jocelyn5196 she would have been a legend
Kamila is pure talent tho, really the only drug was used for endurance, the rest was genuine
Kamila's costume/outfit for the free looked cool, I don't understand what the big fuss is all about, She's probably never going to compete internationally ever again so people need to just get off her back, and let the girl skate, it's what she does best!
It is bizarre to me that a white person can’t be a fan of Black Panther and do a performance to the music. She didn’t do anything offensive. Jordan Chiles did a Wonder Woman floor routine and nobody complained.
fuckin true
Agree, but it strikes as insensitive as Kamila has allegedly said some racist things
Wonder woman doesnt stand for whiteness or smth. Black panther is a very black thing that has meaning for some. It‘s not „offensive“ but it‘s strange and pointless and gives appropriation vibes
@@watchmedo635 like what?
@@Ryusevi t is not appropriation to dress up or create a show about a FICTIONAL super hero. You do realize Wakanada is not a real city, country, or culture. Anyway. I think she did an excellent job with the theme and did nothing inappropriate.
I think Kevin's red gloves were a nod to a performer who did a ballet to Bolero wearing red gloves.
interesting! i was wondering if the original bolero has red gloves bc of him and Kamila both doing it
Alena and her husband know each other since Eteri days!!! He was a Eteri single skater too😭😂
My partner and I attended the Autumn Classic! We mostly went to see Edrian Celestino, which was really nice. It was so fun to see everyone live. I agree 100% when you say you enjoyed Kevin Aymoz's free despite the overdone bolero, it was a pleasant surprise.
Omg I’m jealous. I wish I could’ve been there
I thought the wakanda free skate was such a letdown. They could’ve incorporated west African dance in the choreography, I mean the music had the drama and the drums. They could’ve done so much more with it especially since we don’t get to see African inspired programs apart from the Egyptian/North African/Middle Eastern programs.
Love Kamila's short. It's a shame that they didn't bother showing off her personality and giving her good packaging until now, when she faces a big ban
I think adelia has promise. She was determined to be the first woman to do a quad loop. With time she can be consistent. Aliona and her husband looked like they were skating by numbers. Hopefully with time they'll improve. The main season should be fun as many slaters who were out last year because of injury are returning.
I can help but love Kamila's performances. I love Donovan Carrillo, and I get frustrated when he does bad, I hope he can focus and keep getting better.
girl, you have no idea how happy i am that you pointed out the intro to the test skates!! it was, no.
I love Kamila Valieva, I stand with her through the good and bad. I truly think what is happening with this scandal is f'ing tragic, I pray it doesn't destroy her career. I may be biased but I don't think anyone has the artistry and skill she has. That is not to take away from all the other incredible skaters. As you said, she could give so much to the world of figure skating internationally.
@@donnyslader9025why should she?
@@donnyslader9025 Пусть приезжает, мы рады гостям)))
I actually love her I think she's the most talented skater in the history of the sport in terms of women. I am praying for a good outcome on Monday and that she has a beautiful future whatever she chooses
Kaori SP has a good level of complexity, people just doesn't like it bc it's a classical emotional piece and label it as "boring" bc is not pump music or contemporary dance or something quirky. But what she's showing is a BIG improvement from her 2018-19 SP From My First Moment: better lines, better flow, better interpretation. I'd agree that FS can be better, but also Elastic Heart wasn't ready last autumn, so maybe there's room for improvement.
Nakano/Graham did a really good job understanding their skaters, their strengths and weaknesses, and build around them programs that makes sense and have identity, by choosing interesting choreographers even when the music choices are not the greatest. The problem here is that Sysmex camp can build super strong fundamentals and polish the skating at an amazing level, but is falling behind more necessary elements where other japanese and korean coaches are catching up.
Kamila is so talented and I really hate the position she got put in. I loved her short. The FS I didn't care for, as much as I love the BP soundtrack, it doesn't work as well for skating.
I'm gonna say smth rare and very personal. When a person is truly talented by heart and spirit, even a major tragedy such as possibly never received a golden medal, even through such sorrow Kamila has been brightening as a person. She's young as hell, yet she'd demostrarted consistency, endurance, discipline and the intelligent sensitivity to express her soul on performances where she creates a mobile work of art with the choreography and an imponent display of technique.
I find the joint experience of being Russian and a Tatar, Ortodox tradition, and an ancient Muslim legacy with the cultural richness of the wide Turkic ethnicity.
Все верно.
It's a real shame there are not more people defending Kamila in here but given the material this woman posts, it's hardly surprising. Yes, she is a sportsperson in the truest sense of the word and her culture, artistry and capabilities are obvious
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Weird thought: What if Sasha is only taking a break from competitions for one or two seasons and come back for the next Olympics? With the new trainer she might have a chance to heal till then and at the next Olympics the age limit might prefent most russians to do quads so if she keeps one or two till then, she might have a chance to qualify
Two news on the Valieva case
1. Hearings in the case of Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva at CAS have been postponed and will continue on November 9-10.
2. A very important detail in the case of Kamila Valieva - it turned out that informing her about a positive doping test was carried out with a significant violation of the rules. So, first the athlete must be notified about it, and then everyone else. Well, or at least simultaneously. But in this case, it turned out the other way around - the ISU and the IOC received the notification first, and Kamila herself, as sources say, learned about it “from headquarters.”
Theoretically, this is precisely what can justify how information about the sample was leaked to the press before the official announcement, which in turn created a colossal resonance. And, as a result, pressure on the parties to the process.
Let me ask you a couple of things...
1. Will the CAS consider it a violation on WADA's part that Kamila's test result was delayed 45 days, and will it play a role in their decision for Russia to keep their OG medal, and
2.will Kamila's team bring up the case of McKenzie Headley , a 15 year old swimmer who was reprimanded for multiple doping violations because she's a protected person?....what are your thoughts on that??
@@doomdozer26 There is also a violation of the WADA code, this is the leak of information about the result of Kamila’s test into the public space. This information is strictly confidential, since Kamila is a protected person because she is a minor. For her protection. It is necessary to conduct an investigation into how this information got to journalists. And punish the person responsible who did it. As for information from the court, how the process is going, what is being considered, etc. We do not have such information in Russia, it is not available to us - the Russian side strictly observes the confidentiality of the process. Personally, I think that what is required is: 1. An investigation into WADA’s activities in creating a list of prohibited substances. 2. Investigation into the activities of WADA and USADA in issuing exemptions to American athletes. Publicly disclose American athletes who competed at the Beijing Games with medical exceptions. In fact, they received permission to perform with prohibited drugs in their bodies, that is, with doping. There are a lot of questions for WADA, ISU, and IOC.
@@doomdozer26thank you for bringing up Mackenzie and some common sense. I'm hoping that we will have good news on Monday and that Kamila will not be banned and she will only receive a reprimand as we all know that she did not do anything and her coaches are to blame
How can someone look at Veronika Zhilina and say the only thing noteworthy about her is that she has a sister whilst simultaneously praising Kamila Valieva for technical quality? Admittedly she’s inconsistent but Zhilina’s quad jumps and more around and legit than any of the other ones we’ve seen in the Russian girls.
Also just not keen to be a fan of Valieva anything while Russia is actively screwing real clean athletes out of their medals, endorsements, and other experiences. Ffs what is happening to her is bad, but what’s happening to the other victims is bad enough that going boohoo the Russian girls deserve to compete irritates me.
I'd love Ilia Malinin to do a program to small town boy by Bronski Beat at some point. I think it would be the perfect mix of musicality he can use to build up his storytelling and moments for great jumps which he's known for. I think it would be an iconic program where everyone would be like "Remember Ilia's small town boy program? How awesome was that".
Sofia Samodelkina just moved over to Angels of Plushenko !! Maybe she’ll be his star … If there’s one thing Russian FS does it’s keep us entertained 😂
Will she skate for Russia? I thought she was going to skate for another country but i might be wrong
@@EVA-sw8wo If they allow her transfer she will skate for Kazakhstan. Which will make her for Plushenko’s only student who is Olympic bound. I’m sure he’ll be putting the most energy into working with her
@@abrinich2321oh i see, thank you for the info. If she manages to switch and Russians won't be allowed back she will be a contender for gold at the Olympics! Even if the Russians will be back she is still a mendal contender. It makes sense Plush to invest in her.
I don't understand why eteri is focusing on Kamilla when she's banned. The other ladies have such bland boring programmes and costumes.
Maybe it’s guilt?
@@eeeeeeeeeee2I think it's just propaganda. Eteri isn't capable of emotion.
All of the other skaters are also banned internationally cause they have russian passport and are not accepted by other countries despite like a few skaters who already had 2nd passport
@@nikitashaitan9984the national ban will be lifted before Kamilla's ban is the point. So they should invest in the younger skaters instead.
@@AndrewSchweppsmaybe if Etari wasn’t pumping minors full of drugs to push them past their limits neither would be in this predicament 🙃
Ksenia Sinicina was the best. I rewatched her fp a hundred times. And she’s the oldest single lady after Liza
Skating-wise, Sinitsyna is the Russian version of Mai Mihara to me... great skater in a very competitive field being overlooked and underrated.
She’s so underrated, her artistry is just something else, and I’m glad to see her trying something other than tender lullabies (even if it’s not so radical)
@@loulouvouu oh, absolutely! I became a fan at JGP 2019 in Egna, her FS was so unique!
Yes!! Shes soooo underrated
8:47 Nancy Kerrigan did "Man, I Feel Like A Woman" with zero confidence in the song or her ability to look hot whatsoever so often its a coaches' confidence in the routine over and above the skater, at least in the post 90s skating world.
OMG! I remember this! lol...
Edit: God, the mid 90s was IT when it comes to skating! As a child, I felt as if those pro comps were just as important as the grand prix events lol
@@FigureNastics Figure skating's boom period was 1992-2000 and ALL of it was absolute fire.
I remember that too
Maybe Kevin Aymoz doing Bolero is a reminder of Kamila as a silent protest in solidarity of other athletes criticizing the delay from the trials. Have you seen Vincent’s statement!? 🤯
Malinin as “The Trusova of America” 😂
Brilliant!
😂 no please no😂🤣
petrosyan is always having fun
I absolutely love your channel! You are hilarious I died at the hammer and Bolero comment 😂 I mostly agree with you but wouldn’t count Elizaveta Tuktamysheva out of the running for the Russian podium just yet. After all she’s been consistent, has a 3A in her arsenal, artistry, stage presence and last season even got on the podium right up there with Kamila Valieva and Sofia Akateva. It’s still crazy to me that she’s was skating competitively long before and after the retirement of younger skaters like Evgenia Medvedeva, Alina Zagatova, Alexandra Trusova and Anna Sherbakova … but I guess that is the Eteri way.
Has Trusova really retired? 😢
Honestly kind of strange commentary about Alena's husbands appearance and how they wont ever podium? It's their very first season skating pairs. And yeah flame is not necessary in all pairs/dance elements. It looks like they have work/life separation and celebrated a successful test skate. Plenty of great sibling pairs/dance skaters.
KV was awesome. Straight fire 🔥
Kamila did that right after eye surgery! It honestly shows a lot of character!
is mainly shows lack of care from her coaches. She is supposed to be rested and not make lots of physical effort. She showed herself at the Olympics when she competed under a crazy amount of pressure
@@donnyslader9025it is not her fault that the war is going on. all her other samples were clean including the ones at the Olympic Games. it may have not been her total fault the substances were in her body. and I meant character of strength.
@@eeeeeeeeeee2the coaches really should have and should going forward
@@donnyslader9025your so ridiculous she hasnt murdered anymore
*The Rodchenkov Affair / McLaren Independent Investigation Report.
*Ukraine's recent habit of having neighbour problems when Winter Olympic Games conclude.
*Child abuse (aka. Child Protection) issues.
I think it was his hair and his shirt but Ilia was giving Princess Bride
I agree… the performances and costumes needed to be more memorable. We’ve seen all of this before.
Kamlia free is just so weird to me, like why did they choose BLACKPANTHER but i love the short so good.
Right??? I LOVE the short for her. But omfg the free 😭😭🤦♀️🤦♀️
What’s wrong with it?
In an interview, she said that she was offered another tango option. But she wanted a more active and vibrant image, and she chose Black Panther
@@donnyslader9025she’s never killed anyone 😂
i think with kaori, and this is just a suspicion which may be more to do with her coaches than her, is that when she won worlds in 2022, it was completley unexpected- she'd done soemthing no one ever thought she would because of the russian children dominating. Becasue she managed that, i felt like the 2022-2023 season was one where she pushed boundaries much more because there was less on the line- she was already world champion and no one could take that away from her. This season, however, after she dominated 22/23, and won worlds etc again, maybe her, maybe her coaching, wants to see how long she can win for- becasue she's more than proved she can. I think that they may have gone for safer programs becasue they dont want to risk her losing out due to risky programs when they know realistically she can do so so well again this year...
Kaori is a fake champion...The only reason she is even a world champion is because Russia was banned for political reasons...if not for the ban, even if Liza was instead of Kamila, she would not see the podium....and at 2023 WC she would definitely not see the podium since her scores declined the whole season...and I'm sure she's reminded of that every day....
Her programs are very dissapointing this season, I hope Loena does something good this season and takes the World title away from her, Kaori´s programs are not gold medal worthy.
Kinda agree. They've got her a program that doesn't push too much technically, they are letting her explore different choreos bc she won Worlds back-to-back, so she's settled her name and can basically do what she wants. She's having fun competing. Also she kinda knows that she's getting to the final stages of her skating career anyway: she hinted in some interviews that conventional retiring age is 24-26. Maybe this season she just wants to unwind and get some pressure off by having something less demanding for her programs.
Tuktamysheva holding it down!
I think with a bit more time and runthroughs ilias sp could become a real banger. He has got the movements, but im hoping he will be able to fill it with emotion just like he did with the sp last season.
So happy to see this uploaded. You know I dropped everything to listen.😂
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I’m confused.. Did you actually say that Nobody that has ever skated to Bolero has come out Alive??? 😱
Ummm … Torvil & Dean… 1984… Olympic Gold Medal…
Yes! I completely agree with you
Also Bolero is such a warhorse, completely overplayed, people are reading too much into it being the music choice of some skaters this year...
Is it me or Kamila looks like she has put on a bit more healthy weight. She is still very skinny obviously, but looks a bit more muscular?
Maybe thats why she didn't have any quats
She Is officially THE largest female figure skater in Russian history
of course we always have to tell a normal-looking girl leaning on the thin side they're overweight@@Ardit-kq4bt
She was actually harshly body-shamed for days after her performances 😕
I actually prefer her like this! Always better to have healthy longer carrier then one day wonders, even if they don't preform quads! They all should strive to be like the empress.
Kamila recently did a short interview where she said "the biggest myth about fs is it's for emaciated 15yo girls." Was she trying to say something without saying it?
“Grey and beige had a baby”😭😭
I mean we saw a japanese skater do lion king the olympic season so i think its okay for a russian to do bp
Agreed. Also MCU is fictional...
99.9K subscribers! That silver plaque is practically yours!
The Hunger Games theme makes sense if you think of Russia as a sort of modern-day Panem or District 12 or 13!?
The Empress is STILL SKATING!?!....What is the world coming to?!..Good for her hopefully her season is a good one...On wait I forgot she's banned too...DAMN!!
I'm late to the part but oh well
Regarding god himself. Even tho he's still far from delivering programs like Yuzu, Shoma, Nathan and Junhwan, I can see he's trying to build up his name and develop his own style. He's trying to prove he's more than his quad axel. Right now we only know it's Ilia skating because we see his face and name on the screen but I feel like one day he's gonna have that unique style, that signature move or that jump combination that will make us go _"that's Ilia"_ without the need to see his face or name on the screen (he kinda already does that when he spins but maybe that's just me).
The costumes were an improvement from the last ones but (imo) still not as iconic as his blue _"quad axel"_ costume (even his hair was cute!!!). I liked the short program costume better, I feel like that's how you're supposed to do a black shirt, black pants, black everything costume and not the nonsense he wore in Tokyo. At first I was confused by his free costume because I had no idea what was going on with it, but then I realized it was a heart and now I find it cute. Now when it comes to his hair... he's just like any other man, he cuts his hair just when it's starting to look cute (again, his hair in the quad axel costume!!! IT WAS SO PRETTY!!!)
I’m so sad trusova wasn’t skating. I miss her 😢
I think it's too early to talk about the fall of Akatieva, but it's really sad to see Zhilina in this state. I hope that nobody ever again moves to Plushenko, they don't know how to raise competitive skaters. Maybe good performers but that's it.
Zhilina had the best free program of all the Russian girls:What the fuck are you talking about. And she was the only one to do a quand at the russian tests. Kamila Valieva was completely out of shape and all the Eteri girls were out of shape too
Zhillina is in a very good state! She skated the best short program of her entire career! And a pretty good long program! Her technique is excellent both spins and jumps and her skating skills are very good, great flexibility... she just need to learn how to perform a bit and improve consistency which was worse when she was with Tut.
As for Akatieva she just came out of an injury so it too early to talk
@@EVA-sw8wo Rn I don't agree on Zhilina bc since she switched to Plushenko she didn't show such an amazing growth in my opinion (and also when she switched she was already doing very difficult elements in all departments). But I'll give credit to AoP for the choreos and such: they managed to refine Trusova very well and I think this is also happening for Zhilina. But for the amount of potential she has, she should be giving more imo. Let's see how it unfolds tho, they are all very young and the road to improvement is very long.
@@aronhelios1734 Maybe but we will never know how she would have done with Tut, she might have been better or worse who knows. In my opinion she is doing fine now. And tbh i dont think being with Eteri or Plush matters much as her real coach was always her mother! Her mother taught her the amazing technique and jumps but somehow she couldn't help with consistency. Her sister Alena was never with Eteri or Plush, but she has the same good technique, can do the 3A and quads and has unfortunately the same consistency issues.
I think Plush i packaging her quite well in terms of program and choreography, but it is too early in the season to say whether her consistency is still the same or has improved.
Hate Camilla’s fawning over the boards. Just ick with all those old guys watching on. Was that Tarosova there as well? Must have been laughing on the inside as well as out loud.
In Beijing, before the performances, Camila took a doping test, the results were negative. Kamila was a pure athlete and had no advantages over other athletes. Claim against Kamila for the test she took in 2021 before the Russian Championship. The result of a sample taken from Valieva in December 2021 in St. Petersburg and sent for research to the WADA laboratory in Stockholm was supposed to be made public two weeks before the start of the Olympics (the standard research period is 20 days), but it was reported only on February 8 2022. The laboratory violated the research deadline for more than a month. The laboratory indicated the presence of trimetazidine in the tests below the minimum standard. There are a lot of questions in Russia: why did the laboratory provide results only after Kamila’s birth in Beijing? If the laboratory had not violated the deadline, another figure skater would have been included in the Russian team, for example Liza Tuktamysheva. We suspect that this was done on purpose so that Russian girls would not take all three places on the podium. Second question: Why and who at WADA violated the secrecy of information about a protected person? Who gave this information to journalists with the aim of creating a public scandal? This is a serious violation of the WADA code, and a criminal act against the minor athlete Kamila. Why is no one looking into this violation?
The results of the doping test were not announced early because the party sending the sample did not notify that the sample should be examined as a priority and urgently as it should have been. Kamila's identity was not directly disclosed, it was announced that a skater who represented Team Russia in the Team Event competition and who was under the age of 16 tested positive for doping, and since Kamila was the only minor in the team, people figured out who was that person on their own
@@sirena3470 You are wrong. There are established deadlines for obtaining results for WADA-accredited laboratories. This is 20 days. No additional requests are required. In exceptional cases, it is possible to contact the laboratory to urgently obtain a result, but it is not mandatory for the laboratory. Based on Kamila’s tests, the laboratory admitted that the deadline had been violated, but argued that it was a pandemic. WADA was satisfied with this argument. In Russia, this is perceived as a corruption conspiracy. Any statement that clearly points to a specific person, even without naming his name, is clearly defined as factual. People at WADA who made such a statement violated the WADA code. They need to be sued and held accountable!
@@12Gennady Yes, you are right about the delay also being due to Covid, I just researched and there is such a statement by the laboratory. But about the other issue, since the Olympics is the most prestigious competition in the world and is followed by millions of people, they had to make an explanation to the public as to why the medals were not given to their winners. If they didn’t announce which Team’s athlete tested positive, the clean athletes from the other Teams could have been unfairly blamed and questioned by the public until the investigation was over. It made more sense to reveal which Team’s member was caught doping, rather than putting dozens of clean athletes under suspicion. I also agree that it was very unfortunate for Kamila, the child probably had the worst days of her life, but it was even more worrisome that they found 3 heart medications (one of which was banned) in the body of a 15 year old child
Even if it happened before the OG it doesn´t matter, it was there in her system, therefore her results from that competition are gonna be non existing making her future results invalid too, since it will make it as if she wasn´t there in the first place. Give Trusova the 2022 Russ Nats and Scherbakova the European title and that´s it.
@@mharlon09. You can have your opinion, but there is a WADA code. The WADA Code applies to specific athletes, about some systems (which you are talking about) it doesn't say anything. But it says there the fact of a positive doping test to make a decision on an athlete for WADA not enough, WADA will definitely consider how the drug ended up in the athlete’s body. This is necessary in order to exclude intentional introduction of a drug into the body athlete and laboratory errors. For example: American figure skater Jessica Calalang performing in tandem with Brian Johnson, officially in returns to the ice after violating anti-doping rules. The athlete passed a positive doping test, in which a prohibited substance was detected - the stimulant 4-CPA. Kalalang faced up to four years of disqualification, however the skater managed to avoid severe punishment, and has already
eight months later, all charges against her were dropped. During this time, the American Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) in collaboration with the World Anti-Doping Agency
(WADA) investigated Jessica's case and concluded that The drug entered the body of a 26-year-old athlete accidentally. Expertise has proven its presence in cosmetics, which the skater used. As a result, Kalalang was fully acquitted and restored to participation rights in international competitions. In the case of Jessica Kalang, WADA agreed with the decision USADA, and in Camille's case, WADA did not agree with the decision RUSADA, although Jessica has the drug and the dose in her body much more serious than trimezedine. Therefore, WADA decided to challenge RUSADA’s decision in the CAS court. The delay in Kamila’s case was also not her fault Kamila and the Russian side. Your proposal to distribute titles has nothing to do with sports relationship. We ask you: try before you write, find a solution. To avoid creating a false understanding from people who read your opinion.
Totally agree with what you say about Donovan. I'm Mexican and I'm really biased but he definitely needs to land his jumps.
Hii new to ice skating here. Could you put the names of all the skaters within the next video? Having a hard time hearing their names so I can look up their career/other performances 🥲
0:48 - Video Starts
[0:55] 🇺🇸 Ilia MALININ
[1:21] 🇯🇵 Shoma UNO (mentioned)
[3:10] 🇷🇺 Alexandra TRUSOVA (mentioned)
[3:14] 🇺🇸 Nathan CHEN (mentioned)
[3:43] 🇫🇷 Kevin AYMOZ
[5:56] 🇷🇺 Kamila VALIEVA (mentioned)
[7:08] 🇨🇦 Stephen GOGOLEV
[7:26] 🇲🇽 Donovan CARILLO
[9:40] 🇺🇲 Adam RIPPON (mentioned)
[9:50] 🇯🇵 Kaori SAKAMOTO
12:09 - Russian Test Skates 🇷🇺
[12:50] Kamila VALIEVA
[13:50] Aliona KOSTORNAIA (mentioned)
(14:40 - "Team Tutberidze" referring to the coaching team of Eteri Tutberidze)
[17:40] Aliona KOSTORNAIA/Georgy KUNITSA
(20:00 - Anna SHCHERBAKOVA [in the picture, left])
[21:17] Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA "the Empress"
[22:38] Alexei MISHIN (coach, mentioned)
[22:46] Maiia KHROMYKH
[22:53] Daria USACHEVA (mentioned)
[22:55] Alexandra TRUSOVA (mentioned)
[22:57] Anna SHCHERBAKOVA "Shcherbs" (mentioned)
(23:40 - "Shcherbs power of will" referring to Anna's distinct ability to pull through when it matters most, most significant instance was her gold-winning 2022 Olympic performance)
[23:44] Sofya AKATIEVA
[26:10] Alina GORBACHEVA
(26:28 - "Coach of the hour" referring to coach, Sofia Fedchenko)
(28:20 - "Angels of Plushenko" referring to the skating team of coach, Evgeni Plushenko)
[28:22] Veronika ZHILINA
(29:00 - "Sister" referring to Alena Zhilina)
(29:08 - "Crazy mom" referring to Ludmila Alferova)
[29:22] 🇰🇷 Jun-hwan CHA (mentioned)
[29:58] Adeliia PETROSYAN
[31:20] Evgenia "Zhenya" MEDVEDEVA (mentioned)
[31:50] Sofia MURAVIEVA
34:03 - Russian Test Skates end + closing comments
[34:04] 🇷🇺 Mark KONDRATIUK
[36:22] 🇺🇸 Amber GLENN
[36:25] 🇺🇸 Isabeau LEVITO
Welcome to the zealous world of Figure Skating. There are very many prominent names, camps/teams, scandals, etc. and other rife topics that make this- let's say a very intricate sport. People are very defensive and passionate here so to speak, especially concerning corruption, scores, artistry and jumping technique, and whatnot. Just a heads up.
Edit: all the mentions and terms might have been excessive, I'm sorry.
@@Rosecelain Thank you so much for taking the time to do this! This was very helpful 😊😊
you should cover synchronized figure skating!
I wish you'd mention their scores and who'd won what, etc
If you're not Torval & Dean, you aren't good enough for Bolero, period.
Or Carolina Kostner
Yes! I agree!
too bad about kaori’s programs! i’m seeing her at skate canada and she’s the skater i’m most looking forward to
I think her short became much more meaningful to me when she said that she chose the music "Baby, God bless you" in tribute of her new niece and nephew - so cute! Hope you enjoy Skate Canada!
I feel like on terms of artistry Kaori did such a stellar work for the olympic season, it will be really hard for her to beat it.
By the way Paola i love ❤️ the russian test skates intro i though was original and cute😍
Bolero is always red, I wonder why, also I think Kamilia technical skills have declined alot, shes struggling on her triple triples at the beginning of the program
She has gained a lot of weight and some height since Beijing. She just needs to adjust and relearn how to jump with her new weight since we all know Eteri's technique only works with extremely low body weight
@@RedShoes29 Yeah she grew like 2-3 inches and is not as thin as before but I think she could prob still jump her quad toe since it's her best and biggest jump
1:37 I agree maybe he should slick back his hair?? Maybe a little red in that costume too??
Aliona and husband look a like I don’t know what to make of it
Kamila: 😍😍😍😍😍😘
most important part of russian test skates was sasha being in the stands instead of on the ice
who cares if shes attratice or not bro. shes a figure skater, not a model. what are u on about bro. @@donnyslader9025
"the angels ain't flying" 😁
I really wish the Russians could compete internationally.. they are so phenomenally talented.
I don’t. They’re all doping and cheating the other competitors.
LMAO
Hi! I’m new to the channel! I appreciate the PASSION you bring to your videos!! And I’ve learned a TON of information and taken on points of view. Are you a former skater?? Are you Russian?? Just curious….
when you said nyc i had to pick up my jaw i can never encounter other skating fans in nyc let alone in the tri state area omfg
Definitely excited need some excitement in life
lmaoooooooooooooooooooo
Gregory absolutely roast for no reason at all
ahhhhhhhhhh girl thats was my thoughts whn i saw the wedding pic
no shade but why is Aliona your favorite? I subbed recently so I dont know if you've said
imma say that maybe donovan isn’t landing jumps because he recently had a surgery and he was on physical therapy, tho, im also gonna add that if u are a professional athlete u have to land ur jumps one way or another. but my cutie patootie is working hard with a brand new coach
GIRL WE REQUIRE AN UPDATE ON UR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE CASE ?!!
Lets dont forget the fact that even russia is allowed to compete internationally, sofia is STILL a JUNIOR :(
Funny you say Ilia's free program music reminds you of White Lotus (an HBO show), because the music is actually from Succession (also an HBO show)!!
From 2001 to 2021, the United States committed aggression against Afghanistan and occupation of Afghanistan. From 2003 to 2021, the United States committed military aggression against Iraq and occupation of Iraq. In 2011, the United States committed aggression against Libya. All this time, the entire US team participated in the Winter Olympic Games and Summer Olympic Games. Why wasn't the US suspended? Why was the IOC silent? Why was Thomas Bach silent? He was a member of the IOC from 1991 to 1996, a member of the IOC Executive Committee from 1996 to 2000, Vice President of the IOC from 2000 to 2004, and was again elected Vice President of the IOC in 2006. He headed a number of IOC commissions. As of September 2013, he headed the IOC Legal Commission and the Sports and Law Commission. In 2013 he was elected President of the IOC. During the entire period of his work, he never spoke about US military aggression. The question is why? Was he interested in remaining silent? What was his interest in remaining silent: in the position of President? in money? Was it corruption?
Hell yeah we should ban both USA and Russia
Finally, a sane person here!
Yes, this is hipocrasy in purest form!
...and there lies the reality of the Olympic movement.
Maybe best to keep children out of it?
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Quick question, on which site did you manage to watch this? I wanted to see it but i couldn't :(
@@emsfit9772 thank you so much
The Trusova of america hahahaha i caaaant
Kamila was gorgeous in her SP but choreo looked kinda like bolero 2.0, Danny G could do better. FS was giving nothing, sorry, it's just not it (Danny G could do better).
And I completely disagree with you about the Jacksons, Zhilina was amazing (besides the jumps), the costume, the choreo, the program itself was way better, more memorable and more entertaining than Petrosyan. Adeliya's program was too bland imo (again, Danny G could do better)
Also, Veronika's sister switched to pairs
The way how you compare the program of Zhilina and Petrosyan gives reason to believe that you are biased russian and Plushenko fan. 😅
My fav bolero is Plushenko’s
Just make sure to do a video about the Kamila Court Case....Which is a stupid thing to ask, because I already know your going to do one, because it's skating-related, and it's going to affect a lot of things...
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