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I love these videos y’all do. I did play American football here in the US for 10+ years and was blessed to play in college as well. The guy who does the videos you are reacting to is doing an alright job at explaining some of these nuances, but it can be a lot easier to understand if he was to go back and explain a few key concepts before jumping into the heavy jargon.
College Ball is only bigger in terms of the number of teams & Stadium size but it’s not as big in terms of popularity. Look at TV ratings & its dominated by NFL games.
Multiple penalties can occur for offense and defense, but only one can be enforced. It's usually the penalty resulting in the most yards gained or lost.
They like sports, and how many sports are left that they don't know the rules for yet? American football and baseball are right there, waiting for them.
YES!!! I thank you for being so honest and open about AMERICAN sports. We look forward to helping you absorb our sports culture.....(wow, did I just Sports Culture? )
An answer to one of your questions: penalties in NFL football don't stack. So if there are multiple penalties on the play, the team that didn't commit the fouls picks which one they want to apply (obviously the one with the largest yardage penalty). If there's a penalty against both teams, they offset (no matter the relative yardage of the penalties, which can be very funny) and it's treated as if the play never happened. Really enjoying the videos!
@jimbosaurus is spot on except for one thing. I had to actually look it up to be sure but there are cases where IF it is a 5 yard vs. 15 yard penalty and there is no change of possession and the 5 yard penalty does not give more than yardage recompense, then the 15 yard penalty will be enforced from the previous spot and the 5 yard penalty is disregarded by rule. The offended team of the 15 yard penalty CANNOT decline the penalty. 15 yard penalties are mostly serious player safety penalties referred to as "personal fouls" like intentionally pulling on an opponents face mask, hitting the QB well after they released the pass, etc. There is other, obscure circumstances in which this can occur but when they happen while watching a broadcast, the analyst calling the game will either explain it or their "rules specialist" usually a retired official will explain it so don't sweat the small stuff!!! My citation for this is operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2022-nfl-rulebook/#section-5-fouls-by-both-teams-double-fouls. As always, love the content!!! I join the chorus of comments that all agree that this level of dedication to actually learning the game by RUclips creators really sets you apart from other content creators! Congratulations and continued success! Cheers!
They don't stack on the field, but you can have stacking if it's a 'dead ball' foul between plays, like an Unsportsmanlike Conduct. So you'll get maybe a 5 yard penalty for false start but if that player then throws his helmet in frustration, that becomes a 5 yard penalty and then "After the play was over, unsportsmanlike conduct on X, 15 yard penalty is assessed from the spot of the previous foul... replay the down"
Personal fouls are the only ones I've seen stacked. The immediate examples I can think of involved a dead ball foul, but I seem to remember a defensive holding called along with an illegal hands to the face.
Hi Boys... there are certain situations in which the penalty yards would be "stacked" or additional yards "tacked on" to the original penalty. HOWEVER... to answer your specific question, you are correct, an official is not going to call (for example) neutral zone infraction AND offside. The official will pick one and enforce only the 5 yards. One of the points the narrator was trying to make but I think was a little weak on is that offside, neutral zone infraction, unimpeded to the quarterback are all essentially the same thing, although he did explain the technical differences (which you did a very good job of learning quickly!). However, you properly deduced that the referee will pick one and enforce it. The penalty yards will not be stacked in these situations.
The most common penalty stacking is where a penalty happens during the play and the same team commits another penalty after the play is over. Usually this second penalty is a late hit or unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. In this case, both penalties would be enforced
As an American woman, I appreciate these videos. I have a better than most girls’ knowledge of 🏈 but these videos are teaching me too. It’s a hard sport to understand if you’ve never actually played it in my opinion. That’s probably why so many women just don’t get that into it. Keep it up guys!!!!
I was just about to write the same thing. I'm enjoying watching these guys and am learning more about the intricacies of the sports at the same time, particularly baseball as I always preferred watching football over baseball.
@@NoNameForThisGuy I think it really depends on how invested you are in watching/playing the game. If you're a position player than you mostly just know your role unless you take the time to learn everything else. When I play recess football I've played QB, DL, DB, WR, RB ect. I also follow my favorite NFL team closely and have watched most if not every game for the last couple years.
The one form of defensive offsides not mentioned is occasionally the referee will let the play continue while only throwing a flag. This allows the offense to run a free play. If the play gains more yardage than the penalty, the offense will decline the penalty and take the yardage. I think I speak for everyone here when I say you both have an open invitation to join us as “Armchair Quarterbacks” . Quite impressed with both your knowledge and your eagerness to gain more. Cheers mates!
Let’s add that a QB will often try to throw a long, or statistically more dangerous, pass in this event. Since it’s a ‘free play,’ if he throws an interception it won’t matter, as the offense will just take the penalty yardage. So, if you see an offsides occur & the game continues, it can sometimes lead to a big play.
I disagree with the invitation to become armchair quarterbacks, but it’s not because I don’t like them - I don’t like armchair quarterbacks. Why is it so hard for people to just relax and enjoy the game in peace? Why do so many people seem to enjoy being loud and annoying (and often angry)? I mean, I watch football to have a good time, analyze the play-to-play strategy, and appreciate the high-level technique & athleticism; not be filled with tense anxiety and rage - if I wanted to do something stress-inducing and uncomfortable I’d start a conversation in RUclips comments. 😆
@@doomtho42 It was just a term of endearment. I didn’t mean it the way you are thinking but sitting and enjoying the game. I’m well aware of the other types and I prefer to actually watch in peace as well.
I think the video the two gentlemen were watching tried to make the distinction between play-stopping defensive pre-snap penalties and the basic 'offsides' penalty which allows the play to continue, with just a yellow hankie on the ground and no stoppage of the play. I don't think the video was clear enough in the distinction and our two English gentlemen were left uncertain as to the difference. Basically, if a defensive player's entering the neutral zone (the line which contains the unsnapped football) results in an offensive player flinching or otherwise seeming to make a false start (break the 'statue' pose before the snap) the play is halted, just as it would had the Offensive player had committed a false start. If the defensive player's entry into the neutral zone results in him moving unabated to the Quarterback, the play is stopped. If neither of those two occur, the play will continue without being stopped. An example is when a defensive player lines up in the neutral zone. Then, the 'free play' scenario can take place. -sj
If one team commits two penalties, only one can be accepted. If both teams commit a penalty, the penalties “offset” and the down is replayed. This applies even if it’s a 15 yard penalty for one and a five yard penalty for the other, or if one team has 10 penalties and the other has 1. Basically, if both teams “cheat,” the down doesn’t count.
The numbers still mean a certain position; but it is a little more lax now. However, on offense, the numbers 50-79 are reserved for offensive linemen only.
The travel in American sports is already a nightmare (which is why we have Divisions), I cannot imagine adding a team with an eight hour time difference to the west coast.
The reason, behind the neutral zone infraction/ encroachment, and offsides differentiation, is because, the defense is given the opportunity to get back on their side before the ball is snapped. You can cross the line, but if no one else moves, or is touched, you can get back with no penalty. Offsides - Defender doesn't get back before the snap. Encroachment - The defender encroaches upon the offensive player before the ball is snapped, or before getting back. Again, if you don't make contact, and you get back, no penalty is called. Neutral Zone Infraction - Causing the offense to move before the snap, by prematurely crossing the neutral zone. If you cross, but no one is affected, you can step back to your side and have no penalty.
never seen anyone react to something like this. i am extremely excited to see what you think. you guys are getting into the nuance of the game now. the battles for first downs. clock management at the end of games. the "fumble" being a core reason why we hit each other as hard as humanely possible. i have a list of my top 5 youtube channels. four of them have been in that list for years. and then you guys. keep killin it fellas
I know, react channels pausing and asking questions/discussing to confirm comprehension is something that should be common practice but rarely is unfortunately. It definitely helps when there is more that one person reacting together for sure.
Good work guys. The defensive penalty… whether it is encroachment, neutral zone infraction, offsides…. It’s all minute things that basically are the same, most American fans don’t know these nuances (what to call it) but see that it’s a penalty that will result in 5 yards
The difference between offsides and neutral zone infraction: The play is allowed to continue if the defense jumped offside. The play is blown dead for neutral zone infraction.
14:30 Penalties do not "stack up" . They get the one best penalty . If both OFF & DEF committe equal penalties then they will "off-set" or cancel each other out.
One thing about penalties that I don't think has been mentioned yet is that when you take a penalty, you replay that down. So if it is first down and someone is offsides then the line of scrimmage advances 5 yds and they reply 1st down (first and 5). A lot of times if a penalty is declined by the defense (say a false start) it is because the loss of the down is more important than backing the offense up 5 yds. Having a good offense at second and 9 is better for the defense than having the offense at first and 15.
Some things I didn't see covered: Offsetting penalties: if both the offense and defense commit penalties of equal magnitude, the penalties offset, and if it they are deadball penalties (play is stopped), then neither side is penalized and the down is repeated. Penalties only stack if they are committed after the whistle is blown to call the play dead, otherwise the greater of the penalties is applied. For instance, if a play commences, and the defense commits offsides, no whistle, then pass interference, then the pass interference call will be enforced, as it is the more severe of the two penalties committed by the defense. You'll often see stacking penalties occur after fights- so the play is blown dead for, say, a late hit on the quarterback, and one of his linemen goes after the defender for the hit. The defender fights back. Both the linemen and the defenseman will be penalized for unsportsmanlike, (2 of these is usually an ejection), those will offset, and the late hit penalty will be enforced. ANYONE can be called for unsportsmanlike- even coaches, usually for yelling at refs or impeding a play.
This video focused on pre-snap penalties, so there wouldn’t be anything requiring the discussion of offsetting penalties. Refs would only call one or the other if both teams committed a pre-snap infraction. DN brought it up with the question.
You were basically right on #2. They were offsides, but in theory if no one else has moved they could try to get back on their own side before the ball is snapped. They're only offsides if the ball is snapped. So often you'll see the offensive linemen move like they did here in order to catch the other guys in a neutral zone interaction (although in this case I think they just moved instinctively).
One thing to mention too about the one player that can be in motion is that it's also information gathering for the QB/offense. A lot of the time you'll see the player in motion run 5-10 yards and then run back to his original spot. If the defender lined up with that player follows him or not will let the offense know whether the defense is running some type of man-to-man coverage or zone coverage.
Only one penalty can be accepted on each play. if both sides commit a penalty or even 47 on a single play they all offset regardless of yardage. So a 50yard pass interference call and a 10 yard holding penalty will both go away and you replay the down. Also it is huge advantage to know the other team committed a penalty before the snap because regardless of what happens you can accept the penalty afterwards if it doesn't go well for you. This leads the offense to often take a big shot down the field after an offsides because if they screw up completely and the defense scores a touchdown they accept the penalty and it all goes away, and if they do have a good play you decline it and no harm done.
Hey, I know you guys read a lot of these and i appreciate it, so i wanted to clear something up for you. It might seem like there's no reason to have offside (where the defense is in the neutral zone when the ball is snapped) and a neutral zone infraction (where the defense moves into the neutral zone and causes the offense to move). The reason why there's a distinction is because the defense being in the neutral zone itself isn't a foul. In order for offsides to be called they need to be in the neutral zone *while the ball is snapped*. There are some cases where the defense will accidently go early, but manages to return to their side in time before the ball is snapped. In that case, there would be no foul. But if the defense is in the neutral zone before the ball is snapped and causes an offensive player to flinch, then the ball doesn't even need to be snapped for a flag to be thrown. It seems like splitting hairs, and it really is, but i just wanted to let you know since you both seemed a bit confused on why there were different names for very similar penalties.
Ok, so not sure if anyone has explained this yet, but im not reading 400+ comments to find out. If a pre snap flag (penalty) is thrown for both the offense and the defense, then the penalties offset and the down is replayed. For example if a linemen for the offense false starts and a linemen for the defense lines up in the neutralzone then a flag will be called on both players. The penalties offset so the ball is not moved foreward or backward, furthermore there was no play that happened so there is no down lost, and both teams just line up and try again. Hope this helped! I love watching more people get into one of my favorite spots!!!
Offside, Neutral Zone Infraction, and Encroachment are similar penalties with the exact same punishment/consequence (5 yards for the offense). This was covered in the video and you picked it up perfectly. What wasn't covered in the video is the reason why the referees even bother to differentiate between the penalties. Why not just name all three of these penalties "offside" and move on? The reason referees need to differentiate is this: A defensive player who jumps into (or past) the neutral zone may realize thier mistake and cross back to their side of the ball. If they successfully make it back to the defensive side of the ball before 1) the ball is snapped 2) they cause an offensive player to move (neutral zone infraction) 3) they make contact with an offensive player (encroachment) then no penalty has occurred and the play can carry on normally.
Penalties won’t stack, basically if there are multiple flags on a play committed by the same team, the other team will have a choice as to which penalty they choose to accept. If there is a penalty by both teams on a play, the fouls will offset meaning they reset that play as if nothing happened… Another thing that may have been confusing; if a defensive player jumps offside the ref will only call one of either offside / encroachment / neutral zone infraction. And often times they will use these terms interchangeably as they result in the same amount of yardage gain for the offense. Offenses can also take advantage of a defender jumping offsides by snapping the ball before he can return to his side resulting in what is essentially a “free play.” The quarterback can throw a ball deep down the field and hope for a big play, and if something goes wrong they can just accept the penalty and take the free 5 yards, so there is no risk there.
The end of the video reminds me of an old thing they used to do on the broadcasts when I was a kid. They quizzed you on a real scenario with a little-known rule and it was called “You Make The Call”
Great video guys! If 2 penalties happened on the same play on the same team they don’t stack them, the other team will accept the penalty that is worse, one could be for 5 yards and one could be for 15 so they will accept the 15 yard penalty rather than the 5
Refs are underrated. They’re not even full-timers, they do this on the side. They’re often bankers and lawyers and whatnot (at least I think so, somebody correct me if I’m wrong these days.). But they have to know all those rules and observe what’s happening, and call the plays real time - all while in danger of some 300 pounder crashing into you. I can’t even imagine doing that.
Good point. Where I used to work we had a Vice President of Engineering who was a high school referee. He was a little on the heavy side and not a fast runner, but he enjoyed refereeing.
Historic footnote: The penalty flag was created by former Youngstown State University coach Dwight Dike Beede on Oct. 17, 1941. The flag was first used in a game against Oklahoma City University at the Youngstown’s Rayen Stadium. Before this, the officials would whistle or yell and often no one would know what was going on. So my alma mater is to blame for refball. Sorry 'bout that.
14:26…..if there are multiple penalties from the same team DURING a play, then the opposing team gets to choose one of the penalties to be applied. If the two teams committed penalties DURING a play, then the referee will cancel both penalties from both teams and will enforce a replay of the previous down play. However, there’s another additional penalty for a team if they are penalized AFTER a play. Usually that AFTER the play penalty will be a unsportsmanlike conduct penalty like making contact with the referee or any obscene gesture or words at another player or unnecessary physical contact at another player. You can say that the penalties do “stack” but it’s more of an add on. Hope that helps.
Love the videos guys! And don't get frustrated. Most Americans don't know the entire rulebook either! 😂 It becomes more confusing when you realize that the some of the rules are different from college football and high school football. Keep up the good work! 👍
Someone has probably already said this, but the 3 defensive penalties of offsides, neutral zone infraction, and encroachment, are all basically the same penalty (defense went across the line of scrimmage early) and many refs just call all of them offsides.
Great reaction fellas. Let me put it to you this way... I've been watching American football my entire life and there are STILL rules and penalties I dont understand fully. SO. MANY. RULES.
If there are two fouls on one side (either offense or defense) the lesser of the two fouls is automatically declined, while the greater of the two fouls is left as an option to accept or decline. But, if there are two fouls and each side commits one (offense and defense each receive a penalty) all penalties are offset and the down is replayed as if the prior one never happened.
Like the videomaker said, “offside” is often used as a catch-all term for when the defense moves into or beyond the neutral zone. The one you guys got “wrong” would likely be called offside by loads of die-hard American Football fans. Don’t sweat it 👍
I've played football 6 years in school, and watched football for about 40 years, and trying to remember all the penalties will make your head explode. On top of the number of penalties that can be committed, each year it feels like new penalties are added, or existing penalty rules changes. The good thing is you're not the only one who might get confused on the penalties. As a player I was only really concerned about the ones my position was at risk of committing, or the opposite side could commit against me. The other good thing is that both the official and the TV broadcaster will take time to explain a penalty when it is committed, even replaying it over and over. Over time the most common penalties will become second nature for you, even to the point where you will be able to spot them as they happen before a flag is thrown. What ever you do, don't try to memorize the penalties, this can make you insane. Like my old coach told us, anyone who can remember a football rule book is in desperate need of a girlfriend
false starts, neutral zone infractions, encroachment, are all splitting hairs, and all result in a 5 yard penalty. As far as stacking penalties go, it is very rare that 2 are enforced on the same play against the same team. One would have to be a penalty while the play is going, and the other would have to be a "dead ball" penalty (or after the play, usually some kind of unsportsmanlike conduct). You can watch every game for your favorite team in a season and maybe see it once or twice in a season. In all other situations the team that benefits gets to choose the penalty that will give them the most advantage, there are a few exceptions where by rule some penalties take precedent. A penalty on each team will result in offsetting fouls and a replay of the down.. A few seconds will have been ran off the clock but other than that, it is like the play never happened.
You can only have one penalty on each pla for each team. So they don't stack up. You will sometimes see a center forget the count and not hike the ball and the whole offensive line will move, that just one penalty.
About stacking penalties. That doesn’t happen and you miss heard his explanation. Officials will call an “off side” or “encroachment” interchangeably because they are somewhat similar but either way it’s a 5 yard penalty regardless.
If the penalties both occurred during the run of the play, then yes, the penalties offset and the down is replayed from the previous spot, per NFL rule book. For example if after the ball is snapped there is offensive holding and defensive pass interference. Even though pass Interference is a spot foul and holding is 10 yards, the penalties offset and the down (play) is repeated
You guys are seeing the penalties perfectly. Just gotta get names down. That takes time. But you guys seem to be loving puttin in the work. You’ll have it in no time. Us Americans have been watching this game since we were in diapers. So we have practice. Keep it up guys!
Eligible receiver refers to running backs, wide receivers, and tight ends, pretty much any player that is not an offensive lineman. Tight Ends get their position name from the rule where eligible receives must be on both ends of the line. The Tight End is the end that is lined up "tight" (or close) to the line. Opposite the Tight End, the wide receiver lined up on the line of scrimmage is also referred to as the Split End (which is just a WR on the line of scrimmage). Note: The wide receiver on the same side as the tight end can also be referred to as the Flanker.
And an offensive lineman can be eligible to receive a pass, but he has to ‘check in’ with the referees & they will announce that “#64 has checked in as lineman eligible.” That lets the defense know, so the offense doesn’t have an unfair advantage. This can result in what are called the ‘Big Man touchdowns,’ lol.
I really appreciate all of the work you guys have put in to really learn about American sports. You're picking things up really quickly and your work isn't going unnoticed. Keep it up lads!
I’ve been watching football for years and I never knew the specific details of each of these penalties (mostly because I was too lazy to ever read up on it). Love learning with you guys.
It helps the refs track who’s eligible & ineligible because in American Football there’s a fairly rigid standard of certain Uniform Numbers ONLY being for certain positions QBs & Running Backs 1-20 WR 80s Linebackers 50s etc So a #80-something on the Line of scrimmage pretending to be an Offensive Tackle should get noticed pretty easily
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You guys are picking this stuff up fast... congrats. The next part (part 2) will be pretty awesome, because it's penalties that take place during play (post-snap). That one is gonna be a trip to watch you guys try to figure out the difference between offensive pass interference and defensive pass interference... between defensive holding and defensive PI. Can't wait.
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@@DNReacts Since 1 of you mentioned liking LSU in a previous video, you guys should check out the 2019 LSU National Championship team. Greatest college offense I've ever seen by far. They had Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson, Jamarr Chase, and a whole bunch of other 1st-2nd rd NFL draft picks. So they basically had 2 top-5 NFL WRs and a top-2 NFL QB on the same college team.
Hi fellas! I just wanted to tell you about my favorite football channel. He is a ravens fan so a lot of his content deals with that team, but he does leaguewide play/player flim breakdowns as well. Sometimes it is very technical but he is very thorough in his explanations. The owner of the channel is a coach and is very responsive to feedback/comments. You guys should reach out to him he has done collaborations before, and this might be an opportunity for an educational series between your 2 channels. His channels name is All_22_Films youtube.com/@all_22_films
Hey, if you're looking for an iconic game to react to soon I'd recommend the Eagles Vs Giants week 15, 2010 also known as the "Miracle in the New Meadowlands"
Definitely impressive guys, I feel like y’all would enjoy a special teams highlights or even a breakdown of how special teams works, keep up the good work boys and y’all will be at your first American football game in no time!
I think offensive line holding should be allowed on passing plays. It would protect QB's but also for the most part get rid of one of the biggest plays in the NFL - the sack. So it'll never happen.
Yes the numbers used to be worn by specific positions 1-49 used to be backfield players, 50-79 by linemen and 80+ by Tight Ends and Wide Receivers! Much like in soccer. Nowadays players can wear whatever number they like
I think y’all are doing great! I’m 58 and have loved football my entire life and still have a hard time spotting the penalty. I’m really enjoying learning with you.❤
You’re exactly right about declining penalties. The offense can choose to decline the penalty if they want. They will do this if the yards awarded by the penalty are less than those gained otherwise.
You boys have great minds for American football. It took me MANY years growing up to get my hands around all these rules, and I bet I still have a blind spot here and there!
You guys are awesome!! I echo everyone's sentiment here, this is by far the best job I've seen from a foreign reactor (and even some American ones lol) attempting to learn an American sport. Keep up the great works fellas!
Hey, if you're looking for an iconic game to react to soon I'd recommend the Eagles Vs Giants week 15 2010 also known as the "Miracle in the New Meadowlands"
Love this! I would definitely like to see you guys learn live ball penalties too like holding, pass interference, and tackling penalties as they have a huge impact on the game at times. The quiz at the end was great 😂
You guys are doing an amazing job understanding this sport. One thing to note he didn’t mention. If the defense goes in the. Neutral Zone and doesn’t touch anybody and the offense does not move or snap the ball. They can go back without penalty. That’s why when you see the defense go offsides and they try to jump back they are trying to not get a penalty. So in turn the center is also looking for this. More so on hard count situations. As soon as the defense goes into the neutral zone prior to the snap. The center will hike the ball. Thus solidifying the penalty the play will continue. In hopes of a good amount of yards. But guaranteed the 5 yards. One last thing. “The Hard count.” This is when the offense tries to draw the defense offsides to get 5 free yards. They will do this in crucial short yard situations. The QB has a normal snap count. Like. Down set HUT! When he says “hut” the ball is snapped. But In the huddle when he says the play then will say the snap count. Like this: “Blah blah blah (
Just found your channel and its cool seeing how engaged you guys are. Most just react to react but you guys seem genuine in learning about american sports.
I love your videos. Penalties do not stack. They offset if both teams commit a penalty and the down is replayed. The Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty is a fun one. You should check that out, because it throws a wrench into extra yardage on penalties.
for quiz question #2, remember that for a neutral zone infraction the play is stopped, whereas if they hadn't made the offensive player move, it would have been called offsides and the play would have continued. thats the main distinction
The part in the quiz that was called Neutral Zone Infraction instead of Offsides was because of the offensive lineman moving, the play is blown dead. Offsides lets the play keep going and they usually refer to it as a "free play" where no matter what happens the offense can choose to accept or decline the penalty (unless if the offense then causes a penalty themselves it offsets and the whole play is a do-over).
I've been watching football now for 54 of my 54 years on earth and I never really considered how many rules there are in this sport so watching these videos makes me realize that if I was new to this stuff, I may just skip it. You guys must be dedicated to learning this to go through a rigorous training schedule. I too watch allot of football film every week, but my focus is now on the player match ups, team advantages and disadvantages that will determine which team will cover the all important spread. It looks like if you guys continue down the road you're on, you'll be doing the same in a few months.
Something to keep in mind. The reason neutral zone infraction is different from offside is if the defensive movement into the neutral zone does NOT cause an offensive player to move and the defensive player gets back on side (the defensive side of the neutral zone) BEFORE the snap there is no penalty and play continues.
You guys reacting to the NFL rules are some of my favorite videos and I also really liked the quiz part at the end to see if you guys picked it up. Great video as always!!!!!!!!
You did awesome. It takes time watching games and seeing the penalties as they occur. Its like everything these days experience makes the best teacher. Before you know it you will be yelling at the refs for getting it all wrong like pros!
I was an offensive tackle (big blocking guy on the end of interior). We are ineligible receivers meaning we can't be thrown or handed the ball and need to stay behind the line of scrimmage on pass plays. It's the dream of every ineligible receiver to one day become an eligible receiver. A typical football practice features the linemen busting their asses on tough drills while being screamed at (the meanest coach is always the line coach) while the receivers run pass patterns and play catch. It looks like paradise.
I’m impressed that you’re even watching this! You did a fantastic job, as far as I’m concerned. And I thought “offsides” on that second one too. Nice video choice as well. 😊
Answers: Eligible vs Ineligible Players I think you guys basically understand this, but just for clarification, the offense is allowed to have 11 players on the field on each play, 6 eligible (meaning that they can legally receive the ball) and 5 ineligible (these five are the offensive linemen). The 5 ineligible players must be the five interior players, as was covered in the video. Players' jersey number also indicates whether they are eligible or not, with numbers 1-49 and 80-89 being eligible numbers, and numbers 50-79 and 90-99 being ineligible. In some situations, a player with an ineligible jersey number may report eligible and can line up as an eligible receiver, at which point the referee will make an announcement along the lines of "Number 67 has reported eligible" so that everyone knows. Usually when teams do this, it is in a short-yardage situaiton where they are likely to run the ball and having a sixth offensive lineman in the game could be helpful. Occasionally, teams will use this sixth lineman as a decoy to make the defense think they will be running when they've actuallly called a pass play, and that can lead to the rare-but-always-delightful big man touchdown, with the extra offensive lineman actually running a route and catching a pass. What happens if there is more than one penalty on a single play? This is an excelent question, and I'm glad you guys asked it. Only one penalty may be accepted on a play, so if one team commits multiple fouls the other team may choose which one to accept (or they may decline them all), but they will never stack. There is one exception to this... sort of... which I'll explain in a bit. In a nutshell, that should answer your question, so if you don't want to read through a bunch of example scenarios that I made up, just skip to number 5 below for the exception. Here are some example scenarios that you may see involving one or more penalties: 1. The defense jumps offsides, the offense completes a pass for a 20 yard gain, no other penalties are called. This is what I'll use as my "base case." Only one penalty was committed, a 5-yard offsides penalty, and since the offense gained more than 5 yards, they will decline 2. The defense jumps offsides, the offense throws a pass 20 yards down field, the pass is incomplete but the defensive back commits pass interference. This time, two penalties occurred. Pass interference (which will get covered in part 2 of this video series) is a spot foul, meaning that wherever the penalty was committed, in this case 20 yards downfield, will be the new line of scrimage. In this case, the offense will decline the offsides, which was only a 5 yard penalty, and accept the pass interference, which ends up being a 20 yard penalty, since they can only accept one. 3. The defense jumps offsides, the offense throws a pass 20 yards down the field, pass interference is commited but the receiver catches the ball anyway and runs for another 5 yards before he is tackled. In this case, the offense would actually decline both penalties since the greater of the two penalties, pass interference, would only result in a gain of 20 yards whereas the actual play gained them 25 yards. 4. The defense jumps offsides, the offense throws a pass downfield, and the wide receiver is called for offensive pass interference. In this case, each team commited a penalty. When there are fouls against both teams on a play, regardless of what the fouls are or how many were committed by each team, the fouls will offset and the down will be replayed. In my example, even though the defense commited a 5-yard offsides penalty and the offense commited a 10-yard OPI penalty, they will still offset and the down will be replayed. Even if one team committed three different penalties on the same play, if the other team commited one they will always offset and the down will be replayed. 5. The one weird exception; post-play penalites. It is possible for a penalty to be called after the play is over, and this is usually an Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty, either for unnecessary roughness or taunting. This is the one time that penalties can stack, and post-play penalties will not offset with a foul from the other team. For example, if the defense is offsides and after the play is over commits a taunting foul, the offense will gain 5 yards for the offsides and another 15 yards for the taunting. As one further example, if the defense jumps offsides and after the play is over the offense commits a taunting foul, the 5 yards will be awarded to the offense first (so, if that is enough for a first down, they will get the first down), and then they are penalized 15 yards for the taunting. In that last case, the end result is that the offense moved back 10 yards, but what the new down and distance is will depend on how close they were to the first down on the previous play.
Penalty yards don’t stack. In the occurrence of multiple penalties the opposing team chooses which penalty they’d like to enforce. Also, if both teams commit a penalty on the same play the penalties will offset and they will replay the down. Keep up the content it’s nice to see people learning this wonderful game!
I like that the person who explained the penalties really pointed out that these are the most common ones and watching enough football games, you start to really pick up on the penalties. Especially since a lot of the time the commentators review it. So, live games teach you as well lol.
I’ve been watching NFL football for 52 years and know the rules very but still sometimes don’t get the right “label” or name for the penalty. So take heart!
Basically all that is needed to recognize is, if the play is blown dead and you didn't see a defensive player jump across the line, it's probably gonna be a false start. The other 3 are kinda hard to spot for most fans that everyone just realizes it's gonna be a 5 yard penalty regardless. Lol
As far as eligibility, you are completely correct in assuming that’s why different player groups had different numbers. It also helps with referees watching motion lateral to the line of scrimmage as different positions often move different ways for a lot of common football packages.
Great video! You guys comprehended those pretty well! Football can be a confusing sport and i know there are plenty of fans who couldn't tell you what makes a reciever ineligible or know every rule. So no biggie if you forget a couple.
Honestly, as a spectator, about half of the time, the flagged infraction isn't obvious as things happen very quickly and we are perfectly happy to just await the ref's signal, some times keeping you in suspense until then. You'll find as a spectator, you won't be living this deeply in the weeds each and every play. You generally watch each play unfold and urge and marvel at the progress down the field if your team is on offense or the LACK of progress down the field if your team in on defense. These days, the announcers and slow-motion replays do an outstanding job of informing you exactly what happened in excruciating detail after the fact of each play.
To hopefully clear up the confusion at 18:28, The reason it's a neutral zone infraction (NZI) and not offsides (and the important thing between the two) is that if it's offsides, the play continues. Often, the offense recognizes it and takes a high-risk, high-reward long throw, knowing that unless they also screw up somehow, the worst that happens is they get to accept the offsides penalty, gain 5 yards, and not lose a down. Basically it removes the high-risk portion of the risk/reward attempt. NZI means the play is stopped and the offense has to take the 5 yards.
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I love these videos y’all do. I did play American football here in the US for 10+ years and was blessed to play in college as well.
The guy who does the videos you are reacting to is doing an alright job at explaining some of these nuances, but it can be a lot easier to understand if he was to go back and explain a few key concepts before jumping into the heavy jargon.
College Ball is only bigger in terms of the number of teams & Stadium size but it’s not as big in terms of popularity. Look at TV ratings & its dominated by NFL games.
Multiple penalties can occur for offense and defense, but only one can be enforced. It's usually the penalty resulting in the most yards gained or lost.
Great stuff guys, us football guys love your genuine interest in this sport.
I’ve never seen any British “reactors” go into as great a depth of understanding American sports.
We are loving it, glad you’re along for the ride!
They like sports, and how many sports are left that they don't know the rules for yet? American football and baseball are right there, waiting for them.
YES!!! I thank you for being so honest and open about AMERICAN sports. We look forward to helping you absorb our sports culture.....(wow, did I just Sports Culture? )
Maybe they can figure out what a catch is for us
Good point. Football is such a cool game with cool rules. Fun to learn.
An answer to one of your questions: penalties in NFL football don't stack. So if there are multiple penalties on the play, the team that didn't commit the fouls picks which one they want to apply (obviously the one with the largest yardage penalty). If there's a penalty against both teams, they offset (no matter the relative yardage of the penalties, which can be very funny) and it's treated as if the play never happened.
Really enjoying the videos!
@jimbosaurus is spot on except for one thing. I had to actually look it up to be sure but there are cases where IF it is a 5 yard vs. 15 yard penalty and there is no change of possession and the 5 yard penalty does not give more than yardage recompense, then the 15 yard penalty will be enforced from the previous spot and the 5 yard penalty is disregarded by rule. The offended team of the 15 yard penalty CANNOT decline the penalty. 15 yard penalties are mostly serious player safety penalties referred to as "personal fouls" like intentionally pulling on an opponents face mask, hitting the QB well after they released the pass, etc. There is other, obscure circumstances in which this can occur but when they happen while watching a broadcast, the analyst calling the game will either explain it or their "rules specialist" usually a retired official will explain it so don't sweat the small stuff!!! My citation for this is operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2022-nfl-rulebook/#section-5-fouls-by-both-teams-double-fouls.
As always, love the content!!! I join the chorus of comments that all agree that this level of dedication to actually learning the game by RUclips creators really sets you apart from other content creators! Congratulations and continued success! Cheers!
They don't stack on the field, but you can have stacking if it's a 'dead ball' foul between plays, like an Unsportsmanlike Conduct. So you'll get maybe a 5 yard penalty for false start but if that player then throws his helmet in frustration, that becomes a 5 yard penalty and then "After the play was over, unsportsmanlike conduct on X, 15 yard penalty is assessed from the spot of the previous foul... replay the down"
Personal fouls are the only ones I've seen stacked. The immediate examples I can think of involved a dead ball foul, but I seem to remember a defensive holding called along with an illegal hands to the face.
Except when 1 team gets a penalty and the other team gets 2.
Follow up about offsetting penalties, personal fouls still get enforced if both teams commit a penalty
Hi Boys... there are certain situations in which the penalty yards would be "stacked" or additional yards "tacked on" to the original penalty. HOWEVER... to answer your specific question, you are correct, an official is not going to call (for example) neutral zone infraction AND offside. The official will pick one and enforce only the 5 yards. One of the points the narrator was trying to make but I think was a little weak on is that offside, neutral zone infraction, unimpeded to the quarterback are all essentially the same thing, although he did explain the technical differences (which you did a very good job of learning quickly!). However, you properly deduced that the referee will pick one and enforce it. The penalty yards will not be stacked in these situations.
Dead ball fouls can stack sometimes. Agreed.
The most common penalty stacking is where a penalty happens during the play and the same team commits another penalty after the play is over. Usually this second penalty is a late hit or unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. In this case, both penalties would be enforced
As an American woman, I appreciate these videos. I have a better than most girls’ knowledge of 🏈 but these videos are teaching me too. It’s a hard sport to understand if you’ve never actually played it in my opinion. That’s probably why so many women just don’t get that into it. Keep it up guys!!!!
I was just about to write the same thing. I'm enjoying watching these guys and am learning more about the intricacies of the sports at the same time, particularly baseball as I always preferred watching football over baseball.
It’s hard to understand even if you did play. I was a defensive lineman and all I knew was “when the ball moves, smash the guy who has it”
@@NoNameForThisGuy 😅
@@NoNameForThisGuy I think it really depends on how invested you are in watching/playing the game. If you're a position player than you mostly just know your role unless you take the time to learn everything else. When I play recess football I've played QB, DL, DB, WR, RB ect. I also follow my favorite NFL team closely and have watched most if not every game for the last couple years.
I was raised without football and it took me several years as a grown man to fully understand penalties.
The one form of defensive offsides not mentioned is occasionally the referee will let the play continue while only throwing a flag. This allows the offense to run a free play. If the play gains more yardage than the penalty, the offense will decline the penalty and take the yardage.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say you both have an open invitation to join us as “Armchair Quarterbacks” .
Quite impressed with both your knowledge and your eagerness to gain more.
Cheers mates!
Let’s add that a QB will often try to throw a long, or statistically more dangerous, pass in this event. Since it’s a ‘free play,’ if he throws an interception it won’t matter, as the offense will just take the penalty yardage.
So, if you see an offsides occur & the game continues, it can sometimes lead to a big play.
I disagree with the invitation to become armchair quarterbacks, but it’s not because I don’t like them - I don’t like armchair quarterbacks.
Why is it so hard for people to just relax and enjoy the game in peace? Why do so many people seem to enjoy being loud and annoying (and often angry)? I mean, I watch football to have a good time, analyze the play-to-play strategy, and appreciate the high-level technique & athleticism; not be filled with tense anxiety and rage - if I wanted to do something stress-inducing and uncomfortable I’d start a conversation in RUclips comments. 😆
@@doomtho42 I consider the analysis to be the armchair quarterbacking, not the rage
The rage is armchair linebackers!
@@doomtho42 It was just a term of endearment. I didn’t mean it the way you are thinking but sitting and enjoying the game. I’m well aware of the other types and I prefer to actually watch in peace as well.
I think the video the two gentlemen were watching tried to make the distinction between play-stopping defensive pre-snap penalties and the basic 'offsides' penalty which allows the play to continue, with just a yellow hankie on the ground and no stoppage of the play. I don't think the video was clear enough in the distinction and our two English gentlemen were left uncertain as to the difference.
Basically, if a defensive player's entering the neutral zone (the line which contains the unsnapped football) results in an offensive player flinching or otherwise seeming to make a false start (break the 'statue' pose before the snap) the play is halted, just as it would had the Offensive player had committed a false start. If the defensive player's entry into the neutral zone results in him moving unabated to the Quarterback, the play is stopped. If neither of those two occur, the play will continue without being stopped. An example is when a defensive player lines up in the neutral zone. Then, the 'free play' scenario can take place.
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If one team commits two penalties, only one can be accepted. If both teams commit a penalty, the penalties “offset” and the down is replayed. This applies even if it’s a 15 yard penalty for one and a five yard penalty for the other, or if one team has 10 penalties and the other has 1. Basically, if both teams “cheat,” the down doesn’t count.
I'm 63 and have been watching football since I was 7 years old and I'm learning things in this video😵💫
Amazing 😂
The numbers still mean a certain position; but it is a little more lax now. However, on offense, the numbers 50-79 are reserved for offensive linemen only.
If fact, the NFL just approved the use of the number 0 for players starting with this coming season
As an american, I would love to see a London NFL team in the near future.
That would be amazing!
The travel in American sports is already a nightmare (which is why we have Divisions), I cannot imagine adding a team with an eight hour time difference to the west coast.
I know you guys like kick/punt returns for touchtowns. Check out a NFL archive vid called "The Human Joystick".
@@DNReacts I know you guys like kickoff/punt returns for TDs. Check out an NFL archive vid called "The Human Joystick".
The reason, behind the neutral zone infraction/ encroachment, and offsides differentiation, is because, the defense is given the opportunity to get back on their side before the ball is snapped. You can cross the line, but if no one else moves, or is touched, you can get back with no penalty.
Offsides - Defender doesn't get back before the snap.
Encroachment - The defender encroaches upon the offensive player before the ball is snapped, or before getting back. Again, if you don't make contact, and you get back, no penalty is called.
Neutral Zone Infraction - Causing the offense to move before the snap, by prematurely crossing the neutral zone. If you cross, but no one is affected, you can step back to your side and have no penalty.
never seen anyone react to something like this. i am extremely excited to see what you think. you guys are getting into the nuance of the game now. the battles for first downs. clock management at the end of games. the "fumble" being a core reason why we hit each other as hard as humanely possible. i have a list of my top 5 youtube channels. four of them have been in that list for years. and then you guys. keep killin it fellas
Thank you Strider. We really appreciate it! Love that you’re loving the channel.
I know, react channels pausing and asking questions/discussing to confirm comprehension is something that should be common practice but rarely is unfortunately. It definitely helps when there is more that one person reacting together for sure.
Good work guys. The defensive penalty… whether it is encroachment, neutral zone infraction, offsides…. It’s all minute things that basically are the same, most American fans don’t know these nuances (what to call it) but see that it’s a penalty that will result in 5 yards
The difference between offsides and neutral zone infraction:
The play is allowed to continue if the defense jumped offside. The play is blown dead for neutral zone infraction.
14:30 Penalties do not "stack up" . They get the one best penalty .
If both OFF & DEF committe equal penalties then they will "off-set" or cancel each other out.
One thing about penalties that I don't think has been mentioned yet is that when you take a penalty, you replay that down. So if it is first down and someone is offsides then the line of scrimmage advances 5 yds and they reply 1st down (first and 5). A lot of times if a penalty is declined by the defense (say a false start) it is because the loss of the down is more important than backing the offense up 5 yds. Having a good offense at second and 9 is better for the defense than having the offense at first and 15.
If there’s two penalties, they generally can only choose the best one. If there are fouls on both teams, they usually offset and the play is redone.
Some things I didn't see covered: Offsetting penalties: if both the offense and defense commit penalties of equal magnitude, the penalties offset, and if it they are deadball penalties (play is stopped), then neither side is penalized and the down is repeated. Penalties only stack if they are committed after the whistle is blown to call the play dead, otherwise the greater of the penalties is applied. For instance, if a play commences, and the defense commits offsides, no whistle, then pass interference, then the pass interference call will be enforced, as it is the more severe of the two penalties committed by the defense. You'll often see stacking penalties occur after fights- so the play is blown dead for, say, a late hit on the quarterback, and one of his linemen goes after the defender for the hit. The defender fights back. Both the linemen and the defenseman will be penalized for unsportsmanlike, (2 of these is usually an ejection), those will offset, and the late hit penalty will be enforced. ANYONE can be called for unsportsmanlike- even coaches, usually for yelling at refs or impeding a play.
This video focused on pre-snap penalties, so there wouldn’t be anything requiring the discussion of offsetting penalties. Refs would only call one or the other if both teams committed a pre-snap infraction. DN brought it up with the question.
You were basically right on #2. They were offsides, but in theory if no one else has moved they could try to get back on their own side before the ball is snapped. They're only offsides if the ball is snapped. So often you'll see the offensive linemen move like they did here in order to catch the other guys in a neutral zone interaction (although in this case I think they just moved instinctively).
One thing to mention too about the one player that can be in motion is that it's also information gathering for the QB/offense. A lot of the time you'll see the player in motion run 5-10 yards and then run back to his original spot. If the defender lined up with that player follows him or not will let the offense know whether the defense is running some type of man-to-man coverage or zone coverage.
Whether you call it a neutral zone infraction or offsides really doesn’t matter. Each is a 5 yard penalty
Only one penalty can be accepted on each play. if both sides commit a penalty or even 47 on a single play they all offset regardless of yardage.
So a 50yard pass interference call and a 10 yard holding penalty will both go away and you replay the down.
Also it is huge advantage to know the other team committed a penalty before the snap because regardless of what happens you can accept the penalty afterwards if it doesn't go well for you. This leads the offense to often take a big shot down the field after an offsides because if they screw up completely and the defense scores a touchdown they accept the penalty and it all goes away, and if they do have a good play you decline it and no harm done.
Hey, I know you guys read a lot of these and i appreciate it, so i wanted to clear something up for you. It might seem like there's no reason to have offside (where the defense is in the neutral zone when the ball is snapped) and a neutral zone infraction (where the defense moves into the neutral zone and causes the offense to move). The reason why there's a distinction is because the defense being in the neutral zone itself isn't a foul. In order for offsides to be called they need to be in the neutral zone *while the ball is snapped*. There are some cases where the defense will accidently go early, but manages to return to their side in time before the ball is snapped. In that case, there would be no foul. But if the defense is in the neutral zone before the ball is snapped and causes an offensive player to flinch, then the ball doesn't even need to be snapped for a flag to be thrown. It seems like splitting hairs, and it really is, but i just wanted to let you know since you both seemed a bit confused on why there were different names for very similar penalties.
Thank you Blake, appreciate this context. Definitely makes more sense re why the foul was called on this play.
You guys treating the quiz section as an actual quiz was fun to watch. Can't wait for part 2.
Ok, so not sure if anyone has explained this yet, but im not reading 400+ comments to find out. If a pre snap flag (penalty) is thrown for both the offense and the defense, then the penalties offset and the down is replayed.
For example if a linemen for the offense false starts and a linemen for the defense lines up in the neutralzone then a flag will be called on both players. The penalties offset so the ball is not moved foreward or backward, furthermore there was no play that happened so there is no down lost, and both teams just line up and try again.
Hope this helped! I love watching more people get into one of my favorite spots!!!
This makes sense, thank you for this context!
Offside, Neutral Zone Infraction, and Encroachment are similar penalties with the exact same punishment/consequence (5 yards for the offense). This was covered in the video and you picked it up perfectly. What wasn't covered in the video is the reason why the referees even bother to differentiate between the penalties. Why not just name all three of these penalties "offside" and move on? The reason referees need to differentiate is this: A defensive player who jumps into (or past) the neutral zone may realize thier mistake and cross back to their side of the ball. If they successfully make it back to the defensive side of the ball before 1) the ball is snapped 2) they cause an offensive player to move (neutral zone infraction) 3) they make contact with an offensive player (encroachment) then no penalty has occurred and the play can carry on normally.
Penalties won’t stack, basically if there are multiple flags on a play committed by the same team, the other team will have a choice as to which penalty they choose to accept. If there is a penalty by both teams on a play, the fouls will offset meaning they reset that play as if nothing happened…
Another thing that may have been confusing; if a defensive player jumps offside the ref will only call one of either offside / encroachment / neutral zone infraction. And often times they will use these terms interchangeably as they result in the same amount of yardage gain for the offense. Offenses can also take advantage of a defender jumping offsides by snapping the ball before he can return to his side resulting in what is essentially a “free play.” The quarterback can throw a ball deep down the field and hope for a big play, and if something goes wrong they can just accept the penalty and take the free 5 yards, so there is no risk there.
You guys even nailed the reason for having assigned numbers before 2021 lol that's such a good job mates, well done again!
The end of the video reminds me of an old thing they used to do on the broadcasts when I was a kid. They quizzed you on a real scenario with a little-known rule and it was called “You Make The Call”
Great video guys! If 2 penalties happened on the same play on the same team they don’t stack them, the other team will accept the penalty that is worse, one could be for 5 yards and one could be for 15 so they will accept the 15 yard penalty rather than the 5
And if there are penalties called on both teams, they “offset” and they redo the play.
Refs are underrated. They’re not even full-timers, they do this on the side. They’re often bankers and lawyers and whatnot (at least I think so, somebody correct me if I’m wrong these days.). But they have to know all those rules and observe what’s happening, and call the plays real time - all while in danger of some 300 pounder crashing into you. I can’t even imagine doing that.
Good point. Where I used to work we had a Vice President of Engineering who was a high school referee. He was a little on the heavy side and not a fast runner, but he enjoyed refereeing.
Historic footnote: The penalty flag was created by former Youngstown State University coach Dwight Dike Beede on Oct. 17, 1941. The flag was first used in a game against Oklahoma City University at the Youngstown’s Rayen Stadium. Before this, the officials would whistle or yell and often no one would know what was going on. So my alma mater is to blame for refball. Sorry 'bout that.
14:26…..if there are multiple penalties from the same team DURING a play, then the opposing team gets to choose one of the penalties to be applied. If the two teams committed penalties DURING a play, then the referee will cancel both penalties from both teams and will enforce a replay of the previous down play. However, there’s another additional penalty for a team if they are penalized AFTER a play. Usually that AFTER the play penalty will be a unsportsmanlike conduct penalty like making contact with the referee or any obscene gesture or words at another player or unnecessary physical contact at another player. You can say that the penalties do “stack” but it’s more of an add on. Hope that helps.
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Love the videos guys! And don't get frustrated. Most Americans don't know the entire rulebook either! 😂 It becomes more confusing when you realize that the some of the rules are different from college football and high school football.
Keep up the good work! 👍
They identified the foul--which is basically all you can ask for. The nomenclature itself is built up after years of listening to the fouls.
A lot of refs apparently don't know the rulebook either....
Well done gentlemen. There are some subtle differences in the rules and even the refs have to discus the play sometimes.
Someone has probably already said this, but the 3 defensive penalties of offsides, neutral zone infraction, and encroachment, are all basically the same penalty (defense went across the line of scrimmage early) and many refs just call all of them offsides.
Great reaction fellas. Let me put it to you this way... I've been watching American football my entire life and there are STILL rules and penalties I dont understand fully. SO. MANY. RULES.
Appreciate that Charlie!
If there are two fouls on one side (either offense or defense) the lesser of the two fouls is automatically declined, while the greater of the two fouls is left as an option to accept or decline. But, if there are two fouls and each side commits one (offense and defense each receive a penalty) all penalties are offset and the down is replayed as if the prior one never happened.
Like the videomaker said, “offside” is often used as a catch-all term for when the defense moves into or beyond the neutral zone. The one you guys got “wrong” would likely be called offside by loads of die-hard American Football fans. Don’t sweat it 👍
Looking forward to this one. I love that you guys are enjoying American football, and truly learning about the sport.
Thank you Johanna. We’re loving it. We hope everyone enjoys this one 🤞
I've played football 6 years in school, and watched football for about 40 years, and trying to remember all the penalties will make your head explode. On top of the number of penalties that can be committed, each year it feels like new penalties are added, or existing penalty rules changes. The good thing is you're not the only one who might get confused on the penalties. As a player I was only really concerned about the ones my position was at risk of committing, or the opposite side could commit against me. The other good thing is that both the official and the TV broadcaster will take time to explain a penalty when it is committed, even replaying it over and over. Over time the most common penalties will become second nature for you, even to the point where you will be able to spot them as they happen before a flag is thrown. What ever you do, don't try to memorize the penalties, this can make you insane. Like my old coach told us, anyone who can remember a football rule book is in desperate need of a girlfriend
great vid the only time they'll stack a penalty is if a personal foul is called along with another infraction from the same team.
The first penalty causes a dead ball situation, so there is no second penalty.
Good job guys.
false starts, neutral zone infractions, encroachment, are all splitting hairs, and all result in a 5 yard penalty. As far as stacking penalties go, it is very rare that 2 are enforced on the same play against the same team. One would have to be a penalty while the play is going, and the other would have to be a "dead ball" penalty (or after the play, usually some kind of unsportsmanlike conduct). You can watch every game for your favorite team in a season and maybe see it once or twice in a season. In all other situations the team that benefits gets to choose the penalty that will give them the most advantage, there are a few exceptions where by rule some penalties take precedent. A penalty on each team will result in offsetting fouls and a replay of the down.. A few seconds will have been ran off the clock but other than that, it is like the play never happened.
You can only have one penalty on each pla for each team. So they don't stack up. You will sometimes see a center forget the count and not hike the ball and the whole offensive line will move, that just one penalty.
About stacking penalties. That doesn’t happen and you miss heard his explanation. Officials will call an “off side” or “encroachment” interchangeably because they are somewhat similar but either way it’s a 5 yard penalty regardless.
If the penalties both occurred during the run of the play, then yes, the penalties offset and the down is replayed from the previous spot, per NFL rule book. For example if after the ball is snapped there is offensive holding and defensive pass interference. Even though pass Interference is a spot foul and holding is 10 yards, the penalties offset and the down (play) is repeated
You guys are seeing the penalties perfectly. Just gotta get names down. That takes time. But you guys seem to be loving puttin in the work. You’ll have it in no time. Us Americans have been watching this game since we were in diapers. So we have practice. Keep it up guys!
Eligible receiver refers to running backs, wide receivers, and tight ends, pretty much any player that is not an offensive lineman. Tight Ends get their position name from the rule where eligible receives must be on both ends of the line. The Tight End is the end that is lined up "tight" (or close) to the line. Opposite the Tight End, the wide receiver lined up on the line of scrimmage is also referred to as the Split End (which is just a WR on the line of scrimmage). Note: The wide receiver on the same side as the tight end can also be referred to as the Flanker.
And an offensive lineman can be eligible to receive a pass, but he has to ‘check in’ with the referees & they will announce that “#64 has checked in as lineman eligible.” That lets the defense know, so the offense doesn’t have an unfair advantage.
This can result in what are called the ‘Big Man touchdowns,’ lol.
I really appreciate all of the work you guys have put in to really learn about American sports. You're picking things up really quickly and your work isn't going unnoticed. Keep it up lads!
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I’ve been watching football for years and I never knew the specific details of each of these penalties (mostly because I was too lazy to ever read up on it). Love learning with you guys.
Thanks James 🙏🙏
It helps the refs track who’s eligible & ineligible because in American Football there’s a fairly rigid standard of certain Uniform Numbers ONLY being for certain positions
QBs & Running Backs 1-20
WR 80s
Linebackers 50s
etc
So a #80-something on the Line of scrimmage pretending to be an Offensive Tackle should get noticed pretty easily
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You guys are picking this stuff up fast... congrats. The next part (part 2) will be pretty awesome, because it's penalties that take place during play (post-snap). That one is gonna be a trip to watch you guys try to figure out the difference between offensive pass interference and defensive pass interference... between defensive holding and defensive PI. Can't wait.
Even the refs have hard times with those...
And nobody knows what the hell a catch is
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They had Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson, Jamarr Chase, and a whole bunch of other 1st-2nd rd NFL draft picks. So they basically had 2 top-5 NFL WRs and a top-2 NFL QB on the same college team.
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Hey, if you're looking for an iconic game to react to soon I'd recommend the Eagles Vs Giants week 15, 2010 also known as the "Miracle in the New Meadowlands"
Definitely impressive guys, I feel like y’all would enjoy a special teams highlights or even a breakdown of how special teams works, keep up the good work boys and y’all will be at your first American football game in no time!
I think offensive line holding should be allowed on passing plays. It would protect QB's but also for the most part get rid of one of the biggest plays in the NFL - the sack. So it'll never happen.
Yes the numbers used to be worn by specific positions 1-49 used to be backfield players, 50-79 by linemen and 80+ by Tight Ends and Wide Receivers! Much like in soccer. Nowadays players can wear whatever number they like
I think y’all are doing great! I’m 58 and have loved football my entire life and still have a hard time spotting the penalty. I’m really enjoying learning with you.❤
You’re exactly right about declining penalties. The offense can choose to decline the penalty if they want. They will do this if the yards awarded by the penalty are less than those gained otherwise.
very impressive to see these football enthusiasts understand the game of football for the first time and pick it up quickly
You boys have great minds for American football. It took me MANY years growing up to get my hands around all these rules, and I bet I still have a blind spot here and there!
Let the "Madness" continue 🏀 .. Not a good yr to be a #1 seed !
Keep them American football vids coming guys, my favorites.
We will Robert 😀
You guys are awesome!! I echo everyone's sentiment here, this is by far the best job I've seen from a foreign reactor (and even some American ones lol) attempting to learn an American sport. Keep up the great works fellas!
Hey, if you're looking for an iconic game to react to soon I'd recommend the Eagles Vs Giants week 15 2010 also known as the "Miracle in the New Meadowlands"
Love this! I would definitely like to see you guys learn live ball penalties too like holding, pass interference, and tackling penalties as they have a huge impact on the game at times. The quiz at the end was great 😂
Respect to you guys for actually trying to learn the sport
You guys are doing an amazing job understanding this sport.
One thing to note he didn’t mention.
If the defense goes in the. Neutral Zone and doesn’t touch anybody and the offense does not move or snap the ball. They can go back without penalty. That’s why when you see the defense go offsides and they try to jump back they are trying to not get a penalty. So in turn the center is also looking for this. More so on hard count situations. As soon as the defense goes into the neutral zone prior to the snap. The center will hike the ball. Thus solidifying the penalty the play will continue. In hopes of a good amount of yards. But guaranteed the 5 yards. One last thing. “The Hard count.” This is when the offense tries to draw the defense offsides to get 5 free yards. They will do this in crucial short yard situations. The QB has a normal snap count. Like. Down set HUT! When he says “hut” the ball is snapped. But In the huddle when he says the play then will say the snap count. Like this: “Blah blah blah (
Just found your channel and its cool seeing how engaged you guys are. Most just react to react but you guys seem genuine in learning about american sports.
Thank you, really appreciate the support! We’re loving the journey, support and the sports. Been incredible
I love your videos. Penalties do not stack. They offset if both teams commit a penalty and the down is replayed. The Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty is a fun one. You should check that out, because it throws a wrench into extra yardage on penalties.
Regarding numbers, it is still the case that for offensive players, eligible receivers must have numbers
for quiz question #2, remember that for a neutral zone infraction the play is stopped, whereas if they hadn't made the offensive player move, it would have been called offsides and the play would have continued. thats the main distinction
The part in the quiz that was called Neutral Zone Infraction instead of Offsides was because of the offensive lineman moving, the play is blown dead. Offsides lets the play keep going and they usually refer to it as a "free play" where no matter what happens the offense can choose to accept or decline the penalty (unless if the offense then causes a penalty themselves it offsets and the whole play is a do-over).
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Watching you guys learn the rules has helped me to get a greater understanding of them, myself.
good comments and analysis, gentlemen. I'm glad you enjoy our favorite sport.
I've been watching football now for 54 of my 54 years on earth and I never really considered how many rules there are in this sport so watching these videos makes me realize that if I was new to this stuff, I may just skip it. You guys must be dedicated to learning this to go through a rigorous training schedule. I too watch allot of football film every week, but my focus is now on the player match ups, team advantages and disadvantages that will determine which team will cover the all important spread. It looks like if you guys continue down the road you're on, you'll be doing the same in a few months.
Something to keep in mind. The reason neutral zone infraction is different from offside is if the defensive movement into the neutral zone does NOT cause an offensive player to move and the defensive player gets back on side (the defensive side of the neutral zone) BEFORE the snap there is no penalty and play continues.
You guys reacting to the NFL rules are some of my favorite videos and I also really liked the quiz part at the end to see if you guys picked it up. Great video as always!!!!!!!!
You did awesome. It takes time watching games and seeing the penalties as they occur. Its like everything these days experience makes the best teacher. Before you know it you will be yelling at the refs for getting it all wrong like pros!
I was an offensive tackle (big blocking guy on the end of interior). We are ineligible receivers meaning we can't be thrown or handed the ball and need to stay behind the line of scrimmage on pass plays. It's the dream of every ineligible receiver to one day become an eligible receiver. A typical football practice features the linemen busting their asses on tough drills while being screamed at (the meanest coach is always the line coach) while the receivers run pass patterns and play catch. It looks like paradise.
I’m impressed that you’re even watching this! You did a fantastic job, as far as I’m concerned. And I thought “offsides” on that second one too. Nice video choice as well. 😊
Answers:
Eligible vs Ineligible Players
I think you guys basically understand this, but just for clarification, the offense is allowed to have 11 players on the field on each play, 6 eligible (meaning that they can legally receive the ball) and 5 ineligible (these five are the offensive linemen). The 5 ineligible players must be the five interior players, as was covered in the video. Players' jersey number also indicates whether they are eligible or not, with numbers 1-49 and 80-89 being eligible numbers, and numbers 50-79 and 90-99 being ineligible. In some situations, a player with an ineligible jersey number may report eligible and can line up as an eligible receiver, at which point the referee will make an announcement along the lines of "Number 67 has reported eligible" so that everyone knows. Usually when teams do this, it is in a short-yardage situaiton where they are likely to run the ball and having a sixth offensive lineman in the game could be helpful. Occasionally, teams will use this sixth lineman as a decoy to make the defense think they will be running when they've actuallly called a pass play, and that can lead to the rare-but-always-delightful big man touchdown, with the extra offensive lineman actually running a route and catching a pass.
What happens if there is more than one penalty on a single play?
This is an excelent question, and I'm glad you guys asked it. Only one penalty may be accepted on a play, so if one team commits multiple fouls the other team may choose which one to accept (or they may decline them all), but they will never stack. There is one exception to this... sort of... which I'll explain in a bit. In a nutshell, that should answer your question, so if you don't want to read through a bunch of example scenarios that I made up, just skip to number 5 below for the exception. Here are some example scenarios that you may see involving one or more penalties:
1. The defense jumps offsides, the offense completes a pass for a 20 yard gain, no other penalties are called.
This is what I'll use as my "base case." Only one penalty was committed, a 5-yard offsides penalty, and since the offense gained more than 5 yards, they will decline
2. The defense jumps offsides, the offense throws a pass 20 yards down field, the pass is incomplete but the defensive back commits pass interference.
This time, two penalties occurred. Pass interference (which will get covered in part 2 of this video series) is a spot foul, meaning that wherever the penalty was committed, in this case 20 yards downfield, will be the new line of scrimage. In this case, the offense will decline the offsides, which was only a 5 yard penalty, and accept the pass interference, which ends up being a 20 yard penalty, since they can only accept one.
3. The defense jumps offsides, the offense throws a pass 20 yards down the field, pass interference is commited but the receiver catches the ball anyway and runs for another 5 yards before he is tackled.
In this case, the offense would actually decline both penalties since the greater of the two penalties, pass interference, would only result in a gain of 20 yards whereas the actual play gained them 25 yards.
4. The defense jumps offsides, the offense throws a pass downfield, and the wide receiver is called for offensive pass interference.
In this case, each team commited a penalty. When there are fouls against both teams on a play, regardless of what the fouls are or how many were committed by each team, the fouls will offset and the down will be replayed. In my example, even though the defense commited a 5-yard offsides penalty and the offense commited a 10-yard OPI penalty, they will still offset and the down will be replayed. Even if one team committed three different penalties on the same play, if the other team commited one they will always offset and the down will be replayed.
5. The one weird exception; post-play penalites. It is possible for a penalty to be called after the play is over, and this is usually an Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty, either for unnecessary roughness or taunting. This is the one time that penalties can stack, and post-play penalties will not offset with a foul from the other team. For example, if the defense is offsides and after the play is over commits a taunting foul, the offense will gain 5 yards for the offsides and another 15 yards for the taunting. As one further example, if the defense jumps offsides and after the play is over the offense commits a taunting foul, the 5 yards will be awarded to the offense first (so, if that is enough for a first down, they will get the first down), and then they are penalized 15 yards for the taunting. In that last case, the end result is that the offense moved back 10 yards, but what the new down and distance is will depend on how close they were to the first down on the previous play.
Penalty yards don’t stack. In the occurrence of multiple penalties the opposing team chooses which penalty they’d like to enforce. Also, if both teams commit a penalty on the same play the penalties will offset and they will replay the down. Keep up the content it’s nice to see people learning this wonderful game!
Part 2! LFG! 😂
Thanks for the videos guys. Love em
I'm an American who's been watching the NFL for nearly 30 years. Even I was unclear on a few of these.
I like that the person who explained the penalties really pointed out that these are the most common ones and watching enough football games, you start to really pick up on the penalties. Especially since a lot of the time the commentators review it. So, live games teach you as well lol.
I’ve been watching NFL football for 52 years and know the rules very but still sometimes don’t get the right “label” or name for the penalty. So take heart!
Basically all that is needed to recognize is, if the play is blown dead and you didn't see a defensive player jump across the line, it's probably gonna be a false start. The other 3 are kinda hard to spot for most fans that everyone just realizes it's gonna be a 5 yard penalty regardless. Lol
As far as eligibility, you are completely correct in assuming that’s why different player groups had different numbers. It also helps with referees watching motion lateral to the line of scrimmage as different positions often move different ways for a lot of common football packages.
I look forward to seeing your videos.
Thank you Steve 🙏🏼
Great video! You guys comprehended those pretty well! Football can be a confusing sport and i know there are plenty of fans who couldn't tell you what makes a reciever ineligible or know every rule. So no biggie if you forget a couple.
Thank you! Appreciate the comment
Penalties don’t stack. They do offset though. If there is a penalty on both the offense and defense it is nullified
Honestly, as a spectator, about half of the time, the flagged infraction isn't obvious as things happen very quickly and we are perfectly happy to just await the ref's signal, some times keeping you in suspense until then. You'll find as a spectator, you won't be living this deeply in the weeds each and every play. You generally watch each play unfold and urge and marvel at the progress down the field if your team is on offense or the LACK of progress down the field if your team in on defense. These days, the announcers and slow-motion replays do an outstanding job of informing you exactly what happened in excruciating detail after the fact of each play.
"....everybody but the Center!" I laughed out loud at that one, both times!
To hopefully clear up the confusion at 18:28, The reason it's a neutral zone infraction (NZI) and not offsides (and the important thing between the two) is that if it's offsides, the play continues. Often, the offense recognizes it and takes a high-risk, high-reward long throw, knowing that unless they also screw up somehow, the worst that happens is they get to accept the offsides penalty, gain 5 yards, and not lose a down. Basically it removes the high-risk portion of the risk/reward attempt.
NZI means the play is stopped and the offense has to take the 5 yards.
Soon you'll be mastering the fine art of yelling at the TV. "Offsides!! Offsides!! Throw the @#$%ing flag!!" Nice work, guys!
Thank you for the comment, next season we’re definitely going to be ready