The Iron Curtain (1983)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @russrh
    @russrh Год назад +14

    This music just makes me think wow and flutter is the key to horror

  • @MatthewLangsley
    @MatthewLangsley Год назад +31

    It's interesting that the narrator repeatedly mentions Détente in this documentary made in 1983, and yet Détente had died a death several years previously as the official policy of either side in the Cold War. The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in December 1979 and the coming to power of Ronald Reagan, amongst many other things, had put paid to any illusions of warming relations. Indeed, 1983 is now seen as the most dangerous moment in the Cold War in terms of potential nuclear showdown, with Able Archer 1983 almost inadvertently triggering a Soviet nuclear strike and often seen as even more dangerous than the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962.
    Not sure if this referencing of Détente was wishful thinking by journalists and western audiences in general at the time or a deliberate attempt to positively spin the deteriorating situation. Still, much of what is said here - especially the ease of crossing the Hungary-Austria border - would prove to be true a few years later when East Germans started pouring across this border in the summer of 1989.
    Fascinating documentary - thank you!

    • @fedster187
      @fedster187 Год назад

      reminds me of cnn a cold war

    • @mickimicki
      @mickimicki Год назад +5

      It says 1983, but the clothes (for example of the cyclist and his interviewer) look earlier than '83. Bell bottom jeans went out of style with the end of the '70s, and so did the huge collars and lapels. If this were filmed in 1982 or 1983, people should have worn what was called "carrot jeans" then (loose fit around the leg, slim around the ankles). So I think this was filmed around 1978.

    • @peterhorak7542
      @peterhorak7542 Год назад

      Weil der BRD GmbH und ihre komparsen die Arbeitskräfte ausgingen,deswegen wollten die Westdeutschen so schnell wie möglich die Wiedervereinigung Deutschlands!

    • @MatthewLangsley
      @MatthewLangsley Год назад +1

      @@mickimicki Yes, I agree with that approximate date. Looking at the various western cars (Fords, Mercedes, Audi, VW), there are none that I saw which post-date the mid/late-seventies, and I can find no other tech or hardware to challenge your fashion-based approach to dating the film.
      The producers clearly used lots of stock footage and what were then older recordings to make a film which was perhaps commissioned because of the subsequent collapse of Détente and heightened Cold War tensions in the early 80s.

    • @clopec
      @clopec Год назад +1

      As the documentary focused on cross-border relations, detente probably referred to the policy of the bordering countries as opposed to the larger geopolitical struggle between the "faction leaders" USA and the Soviet Union. The border policy must have been fairly locally governed, otherwise, there wouldn't have been such drastic differences between the GDR and Hungary for example. Therefore detente, easement of tensions, or at least attempts at it could well happen between the border countries, despite high tensions on a geopolitical/military level.

  • @prowlingfrost5588
    @prowlingfrost5588 Год назад +4

    The sad thing is the situation today is worse than it was back 40 years ago. People are willingly build their own wall inside their homes and minds just because some one told them to do so.

  • @stevenr2463
    @stevenr2463 Год назад +7

    Very interesting, thank you! I live in Austria - in Vienna and at Neusiedlersee which borders to Hungary. We crossed the border a couple of times in the 1980s and experienced the flow of mainly East Germans in I think 1989.

  • @inkedbeast76
    @inkedbeast76 Год назад +3

    Seriously, the music started and I had an acid flashback.

  • @WarnerBataillèRomanovMiddlton
    @WarnerBataillèRomanovMiddlton Год назад +3

    I shared on my fb
    I travelled from Warsaw to West Berlin. Sad memories, it was a joy to see an American soldier

  • @E.L.Bernays
    @E.L.Bernays Год назад +3

    Das waren noch Zeiten. 🍺🖤❤️🧡

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Год назад +10

    It was truthful historical coverage of iron curtain terms during the First Cold War ...thank you respectful (Mike Guardia) channel for sharing

    • @unmastered6154
      @unmastered6154 Год назад +1

      ‘The first cold war’??

    • @xancypillosi9497
      @xancypillosi9497 Год назад

      @@unmastered6154lol these fetus’ man

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 9 месяцев назад

      @@unmastered6154The West (This term is redundant now.) and commie China maybe? There is some justification as countries are trying to disengage with China. Well mainly the United States of America.

  • @daeshbagcentral5298
    @daeshbagcentral5298 Год назад +21

    As a truck driver during the 70's & 80's I criss crossed the eastern block all the time. Interesting times they were

    • @fernandor8186
      @fernandor8186 Год назад

      where exactly?

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 9 месяцев назад

      When are you writing a book about it?

    • @keithx8734
      @keithx8734 20 дней назад

      Out of curiosity, did police/traffic control stop you for checks randomly?

  • @daddygrasshopper
    @daddygrasshopper Год назад +23

    Love all your content on the late stages of the USSR and the Cold War. Thank you!

  • @john07973
    @john07973 Год назад

    Very good thank you 👍

  • @sfc.m
    @sfc.m Год назад

    I spent "83 playing spades at Camp Lee and walking traces out of Op's Sierra and Tennessee. Allons!

  • @benyomovod6904
    @benyomovod6904 Год назад +2

    Good old days, the east self contained and the west did prosper

  • @jensnimike176
    @jensnimike176 Год назад +17

    Very nice topic, but the "music" is unbearable.😢

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron Год назад +2

      Haha! I hear you and I can't believe that's what we thought of as soothing and decent back then. Time is taking me by surprise despite the entire population warning me about it.. 🤣 🤣

    • @Daniel-yl8y
      @Daniel-yl8y Год назад +2

      ​@@DaveSCameronI doubt it was meant to be soothing... 😉

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron Год назад

      @@Daniel-yl8y you think?

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 9 месяцев назад

      You have not heard the beauty that is Turbofolk?

  • @mrAq_pA
    @mrAq_pA Год назад +1

    6 years later is was all over. In some extend thanks to changes in HUN ( we tore down the iron curtain... ) Greetings from HUN.

  • @werre2
    @werre2 Год назад +7

    mullet at 7:29

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron Год назад +7

      I can remember them like yesterday and we thought it was cutting edge when in reality it was cutting satire and a phenomena I have seen repeated time and time again over my lifeline so far. On balance I have to say the 1970s beats the lot, what a hairy mess that decade was eh? 😂

  • @alexhubai1079
    @alexhubai1079 Год назад +4

    15:27nél IFA meg a Fortschritt

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron Год назад +1

      Can't translate via yt here?

    • @alexhubai1079
      @alexhubai1079 Год назад +2

      both are east-german made vehicles from that era. hecc, sometimes I could still see them even to this day in rural areas in my country. altho barely anyone still operates Fortschritt machinery, often it just falls into disrepair or gets to be taken apart for spare parts. IFA on the other hand is still quite a common sight.

    • @egrikomrade
      @egrikomrade Год назад

      Imádom nézni ezeket a régi felvételeket. Bőven nem éltem még 83-ban, de nagyon fontosnak tartom hogy legalább a szüleim gyerekkorának idejével tisztában legyek

  • @michaelahern6821
    @michaelahern6821 3 месяца назад

    No add blocker...don't bother....

  • @jjhonecker7644
    @jjhonecker7644 Год назад +3

    ЗДЕСЬ ВСЕГДА ТРЕНИРУЮТСЯ ГЛАЗА СПЕЦИНАЗА ДА!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @normanpeters7544
    @normanpeters7544 Год назад +1

    The woman in the field chopping ,harvesting was bending over too much in her short dress.

  • @IronFist.
    @IronFist. 9 месяцев назад

    That woman in the white cape at 0:14 nearly did a Joe Biden

  • @theogangryscotsman7607
    @theogangryscotsman7607 Год назад +1

    it was better to have kept the commies on the otherside of the fence tyen to have them everywhere today

    • @matthewthomasjames
      @matthewthomasjames 16 дней назад

      Are you kidding? Communists were all over the place even during those decades. They’ve been working actively in western countries since the early 1920s.

  • @marklisiecki5790
    @marklisiecki5790 Месяц назад +1

    Evil Soviet empire!!!!!👎👎👎

  • @vvxx5425
    @vvxx5425 Год назад

    Why you dont ask Czechoslovakian troops why you cannot film?! 😅I see that Hungarian borders was not so safe , you are able to talk with another persons... that why i cannot film... those americans ...

  • @videosuperhighway7655
    @videosuperhighway7655 Год назад +14

    I remember the cold war. And now its back with a vengeance.

    • @Triggernlfrl
      @Triggernlfrl Год назад

      It looks more like ww II with Nazi armor going east again...

  • @werre2
    @werre2 Год назад +44

    holy frequency shift batman

    • @PunaSquirrel
      @PunaSquirrel Год назад +1

      🤯

    • @ryans3074
      @ryans3074 Год назад +1

      Makes it sound retro

    • @ko83na
      @ko83na Год назад +3

      how much lfo do you want? ... yes!

    • @Ac22768
      @Ac22768 Год назад

      @@ryans3074it is “retro” bozo 🤦‍♂️

    • @Joshua429
      @Joshua429 2 месяца назад

      Less than a decade later be like: 🪦

  • @Occasion77
    @Occasion77 Год назад +7

    This was very interesting would love to see more like it!

  • @farmerrabbit
    @farmerrabbit Год назад +3

    Just 6 more years after this film was made the Iron Curtain would fall...

  • @kraljmatjaz7668
    @kraljmatjaz7668 Год назад +5

    omg i was 4yrs old and from Yugoslavia (now Slovenia) and didnt know that was so bad on hungarian, Bulgaria and Romania borders.. But it was 1989 and we travelled to Czhecoslovakia. I remember on border we were checked and you could feel some strange... We had socializem but it was not so bad, also you didnt have much choice in shops, but we had better standard then Eastern block... the prices in Czechoslovakia were low and that in Prague. Now is the same or maybe Czech republic have better Bdp then Slovenia at the moment. Rest of republics Yugoslavia are very poor, now (Bosnia, Serbia, North Macedonia, Montenegro). Croatia is little better, they have huge coast (Tourism). Now we have huge problems with migrants from Africa and Asia...

    • @DC2Ams
      @DC2Ams Год назад

      Thanks for sharing

    • @serdarsoydan8772
      @serdarsoydan8772 11 месяцев назад

      Titonun kıymetini bitmediniz şimdi bronzlaşın biraz

  • @2ToMMyK2
    @2ToMMyK2 Год назад +1

    At around 13:50 just before the old man shouts at the others you can actually hear a woman say: "Grandpa don't talk to them". He is really bad at hiding the fact that he is interested in the crew recording him. I imagine he wanted to have a drink with them and talk.

  • @wolfg6136
    @wolfg6136 8 месяцев назад +1

    this film was taken in 1983, no body expect the iron curtain was collapsed after 5 years later.

  • @dw7920
    @dw7920 5 месяцев назад +1

    What a snapshot - fascinating. Thanks for sharing.

  • @harriheikkila5588
    @harriheikkila5588 Год назад +3

    According to the map the capital of Finland is "Helsinski".

  • @don.marsden
    @don.marsden Год назад +1

    Who can tell about the terrible sufferance it has been?

  • @jeffscharpf
    @jeffscharpf Год назад +1

    just a few more years..

  • @johnnotrealname8168
    @johnnotrealname8168 9 месяцев назад

    This helps me grasp better what the thing is although I am rather surprised by the rhetoric in 1983. Ultimately, it seems to be to try accommodating the commies and not trying to beat them. That is a bit too much.

  • @drdirk2
    @drdirk2 Год назад +10

    I went to DDR, behind the Wall on many occasions before it fell 1989. I visited my grandparents in West Germany many times, & as teen I made it a point to visit DDR because it made me appreciate returning home to the states even more. Once you passed through their security, you immediately noticed the Stassi agents watching to make sure you don't talk or get too close any East Germans ( they themselves knew to avoid Westerners). I kid you not, the only part of the city you could visit was like a Hollywood movie set. When you saw the storefronts you saw "modern" clothes and other such items, & often, if you looked behind the " fashionable" mannequins, far back in-between the gaps behind the display walls, you'd notice empty buildings. I loved that the food in restaurants was plentiful and cheap. Last time I went was 1983 I was 18 I went into a restaurant and I remember the young beautiful waitress who served me and our immediate and mutual attraction. I couldn't flirt, she couldn't let on and I had heard about and read books about the Stassi and they were no joke. I was a romantic, she made indelible impression! While sitting there eating, as well as in the years before the wall fell in 1989 I fantasized about rescuing her and bringing her home to Southern California. ( to bad California has staunchly turned to the very ideologies that created wastelands of Eastern Europe!) Note: Holidays during Covid I remember in California I remember neighbors turn on neighbors for having > 6 people over for Thanksgiving and Christmas. The same in the People's Republic of Portland, Oregon a person could smoke crack on the sidewalk downtown but having more 6 or 7 people over for holidays would result in $1400 fine and possible jail. Germans keep impeccable records and people originally citizens of the DDR can read their Stassi files. More often than not, people who have, wish they'd never have done it. For centuries governments have known they can easily motivate by using fear, and the Stassi were experts! Household family members told on their family, neighbors on neighbors but worse was children were deeply indoctrinated to do anything and everything for the state. Parents talked and whispered in soft tones knowing anything they say could be misconstrued. Before the Stassi sat a new witness down, they stapled a new cloth over their chair. When the witness or interrogation was finished the cloth was put in air tight mason like jar and labeled with their name etc. That way, police dogs could catch their scent if they ever had to search for them. Back on 10/22/21 a certain Russian Warns 'Wokeness' or (liberal-left ideology) Is destroying the West: Just as it once destroyed Russia. Leftist ideology is evil, it destroys values."

    • @mrasbestos9127
      @mrasbestos9127 Год назад

      Russians were spot on
      They abused it during the Cold War: ruclips.net/video/w7AND6Us8qI/видео.htmlsi=RXpU2K_YTfyw8y4y

  • @laardi79
    @laardi79 Год назад

    Pure idiotism to dub The interviewd. No tolerance for other languages whatsoever. I wish The bigger nations would realize that in the end i hope. Great doc though.

  • @oldmanc2
    @oldmanc2 Год назад +5

    "Peasants" 😂 Unbelievable

    • @Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry
      @Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry Год назад +7

      "Peasant" simply means farm labourer. In the eastern, "socialist republics of workers and peasants", the term was used to distinguish rural workers in state-owned or collective farms from urban factory or service workers. Since the fall of communism over thirty years ago, Hollywood seems to have changed the meaning of the word "peasant" into something closer to "slob" or "low-life", which is why so many young people seem to think that's what it means.

    • @marrs1013
      @marrs1013 5 месяцев назад

      A 'farmer' would imply ownership of land and right to use the produce as they see fit. They had none of it.

  • @hyrondongle2473
    @hyrondongle2473 Год назад

    1:04 Anyone knows the name of the song? I wants to buy cd…

  • @golffoxtrotyankee1093
    @golffoxtrotyankee1093 Год назад

    OP Alpha, Rasdorf ‘83.

  • @williamgill5286
    @williamgill5286 Год назад

    the irain courtaan ayie

  • @tiffanypheasant3085
    @tiffanypheasant3085 11 месяцев назад

    Forschritt E281 15:28

  • @archivfinder3992
    @archivfinder3992 Год назад

    Man kann dazu stehen wie man will, aber das war wenigstens noch eine Staatsgrenze die ihren Namen verdiente und nicht so ein albernes gemache wie heutzutage.

    • @foxhotel
      @foxhotel 11 месяцев назад

      Ja, man wurde beim Verlassen des Landes erschossen. Prima Sache!

  • @boandlkramer2539
    @boandlkramer2539 Год назад +2

    Die Welt war damals besser als heute 👍👍👍

    • @85daniel
      @85daniel Год назад

      Ich vermute ich weiß aus welcher Hälfte du stammst. Wenn es dir so gefallen hat versuch es mal in Transnistrien oder Belaruss. Da hast du dann das Retrofeeling das du so zu vermissen scheinst. Ich sag es mal so, DE hätte sich auch ein paar Billionen sparen können und hätte heute vermutlich weniger Probleme.

  • @mateobravo9212
    @mateobravo9212 Год назад +8

    And Putin would openly recreate this 'glory'? Fascinating to see the Elbe being navigated.

    • @bman6065
      @bman6065 Год назад +5

      No he's not nor was ever trying. WW3 would have to come first and be in his favor. He never had that much illusion.

    • @colinstewart1432
      @colinstewart1432 Год назад

      Putin has no interest whatsoever in recreating this. No idea where you got this fantasy but it's actually embarrassing. He wants a Ukraine independent of western interference - nothing more.

    • @albertmontanes7705
      @albertmontanes7705 Год назад +1

      he'd have this back in a heartbeat, the only possible way russia can be a major power ever again, and it's not happening.

    • @bman6065
      @bman6065 Год назад

      @@albertmontanes7705 not possible anywhere in the foreseeable future.

    • @petr7694
      @petr7694 Год назад

      ​@@bman6065Putin wants the "glorious" Soviet Evil Empire back.

  • @outbythedark1689
    @outbythedark1689 Год назад +1

    fast forward to the Romanian guy who said he was in Prison for three years in Bucharest at 20 minutes and the story with his infant child isn't adding up.

    • @fredjones100
      @fredjones100 Год назад +1

      That's not necessarily the same child

  • @paulparker8298
    @paulparker8298 Год назад

    Love the western propaganda

    • @Philertman
      @Philertman Месяц назад +1

      ?

    • @matthew1882
      @matthew1882 6 дней назад

      It wasn't the West who built the Berlin Wall