Who will be the next Tory leader?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • The Conservative party is in the process of choosing a new leader. There are four remaining candidates in the race: Kemi Badenoch, Tom Tugendhat, James Cleverly and Robert Jenrick. Each of them join The Spectator’s political editor Katy Balls to set out their vision for the party, for opposition, and the future.
    They discuss foreign policy, assisted dying, and give their assessment on why they lost the general election. Who do they think did the best job, from Cameron to Sunak? What’s the most and least conservative policy of the last ten years? And what’s the naughtiest thing they’ve ever done?
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Комментарии • 129

  • @robinfox6088
    @robinfox6088 День назад +32

    Cleverly said: "the public stopped listening to us". Actually, the Conservative Party stopped listening to the public. Cleverly is part of the problem.

    • @robertbones326
      @robertbones326 День назад +1

      Indeed, everything James says is Cleverly said.

    • @ScruffyTubbles
      @ScruffyTubbles День назад +1

      How did they stop listening? What in particular did they not listen to you about? I am genuinely interested to know.

  • @samuelturner1668
    @samuelturner1668 День назад +12

    Tom got very dark at the end 😂

  • @dinodar8765
    @dinodar8765 День назад +6

    Tom: “I invaded a country once” hahahah

  • @u29xy
    @u29xy День назад +16

    only reform

  • @maxcream6726
    @maxcream6726 День назад +5

    VOTE REFORM

  • @AlD180
    @AlD180 День назад +33

    Kemi Badenoch is the only impressive candidate. So the Tories will probably elect one of the other three

    • @just_another32
      @just_another32 День назад +1

      too bloody true

    • @oliverford5367
      @oliverford5367 День назад

      IMO if they choose her they may get back in. If not, they'll be like the old Liberal party eclipsed by Reform and FPTP will make Ed Davey the new Leader of the Opposition

    • @hilarymiseroy
      @hilarymiseroy День назад +1

      If she makes it to the final two I think she will win as the party members like her.

    • @typicalsomeone5073
      @typicalsomeone5073 23 часа назад

      She talks a good game but talk is cheap she is not the solution

    • @oliverford5367
      @oliverford5367 13 часов назад

      @@typicalsomeone5073 Who is? IMO best chance we've got

  • @John-kj7tv
    @John-kj7tv День назад +14

    Kemi is the only interesting candidate and she's probably still a bit young.

    • @samuelturner1668
      @samuelturner1668 День назад +7

      @@John-kj7tv She's in her mid-forties

    • @SebsterMS99
      @SebsterMS99 День назад +5

      @@samuelturner1668 Looks good for her age.

    • @GodsOwnPrototype
      @GodsOwnPrototype День назад

      Also an anchorbaby

    • @just_another32
      @just_another32 День назад

      she's like 60

    • @tombox24
      @tombox24 5 часов назад

      Nonsense, she is older than Cameron was when he was elected leader. And she has held multiple senior Secretary of State positions in government. She more than qualified and easily ‘old’ enough. Which is a ridiculous metric anyway. We need younger talented people in govt anyway.

  • @Excaspat55
    @Excaspat55 14 часов назад +2

    There isn't one left worthy of my vote. A former member of the Tories never again.
    Maybe Reform in future but keeping my powder dry.

  • @ZAKKANWAKKAR
    @ZAKKANWAKKAR День назад +24

    Who cares?

  • @Schiltron
    @Schiltron День назад +19

    Kemi is a tough and clever lady. She would make mincemeat of Starmer.

    • @macfaichen2658
      @macfaichen2658 День назад +2

      Maybe but I do not trust her regarding immigration

    • @just_another32
      @just_another32 День назад

      urgh I can't imagine stamer bolognaise

    • @ScruffyTubbles
      @ScruffyTubbles День назад

      She would just try to shout him down in the Commons. That's not good debate.

    • @Philsmahsmchjsb
      @Philsmahsmchjsb 13 часов назад

      @@macfaichen2658agreed

    • @mikegray8776
      @mikegray8776 5 часов назад

      But she has a bizarre (and deeply suspect) attachment to the ECHR and other Blair-ite “social” policies.

  • @macfaichen2658
    @macfaichen2658 День назад +3

    Could we please have questions and more importantly clear answers on what the British people are most concerned about… immigration, the boats and deportations… plus the promotion of British values and culture..! PLEASE

    • @ScruffyTubbles
      @ScruffyTubbles День назад +1

      No. No racism thank you.
      I have heard however that Bulgaria is very heavily underpopulated. You could always emigrate out there as you are probably an immigrant in the past anyway.

  • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
    @alphabetaxenonzzzcat День назад +2

    I don't care - the Tories are finished as a political force. They aren't going to actually solve the real problems that this country faces - indeed, they caused a lot of them.

  • @benphilips7235
    @benphilips7235 День назад +3

    It's like the Nurenbourg trials. 'We lost the trust of the German people.' You should have confessed earlier and all resigned.

    • @anonUK
      @anonUK День назад

      Two of their "top" people did effectively resign- but it was far too late by then...
      As for the Tories, imagine 7-8 years of what Starmer and co. have just tried to get away with...

  • @d_o_r
    @d_o_r День назад +2

    Who cares? Are they still relevant? Compare what they are reflecting on now with how they reflected back in 97 etc then tell me what they really learnt.

  • @sue.F
    @sue.F День назад +2

    That’s is it? Gawd, the country’s sunk.

  • @williamvorkosigan5151
    @williamvorkosigan5151 День назад +4

    I live in Malaysia. I am a Muslim. I am an atheist. I depend entirely on anonymity. I try not to be rude in what I say. If you insist on banning me because you don't like what I say, then OK, but for goodness sake, don't dox me. To make me fully identified means I can not say true things about Islam and its negative effects upon my life and the life of my family. Perhaps that is desired by Tom Tugenhat as Islam is the religion that must not be criticised in the UK. Tom Tugenhat doesn't get that free speech is the bedrock upon which all other freedoms are built. It is the most precious freedom, he doesn't seem to care for it.

    • @surpriserakins9067
      @surpriserakins9067 День назад

      @@williamvorkosigan5151 how does removing anonymity curtail free speech? What credibility is there in speech that has no identified author?

    • @jatrius
      @jatrius День назад

      @@surpriserakins9067 When the removal of anonymity can lead to murder or incarceration? Are you for real? Did you not read what he just wrote?

    • @surpriserakins9067
      @surpriserakins9067 День назад

      @@jatrius you haven't answered any of my questions. There is no probative value in anonymous speech.

    • @jatrius
      @jatrius День назад

      @@surpriserakins9067 There is no value in death if that's what it takes to appease your ethical approach. Your 'argument' is the same as that of Freisler or Vyshinsky and is of equal worth as their conception of justice and truth.

    • @surpriserakins9067
      @surpriserakins9067 День назад

      @@jatrius I disagree. You can choose not to speak if you think death will be the consequence. There was a world before social media and many have died for their principles.

  • @P0thila
    @P0thila День назад +2

    Robert spoke well

  • @oliverford5367
    @oliverford5367 День назад +10

    Kemi is the only one who cares about freedom of speech

  • @nikhtose
    @nikhtose 22 часа назад +1

    All deceptive bluster. The Tories talked a tough game, several times over, proceeded to go back on everything. Why trust them now?

  • @stuartrobb673
    @stuartrobb673 День назад +1

    The more important question is whether there will even be a Tory party after the next election and who will be leading it because I would make a very large bet it will be none of the above

  • @PL-ds5jn
    @PL-ds5jn День назад +1

    Jenrick is the best candidate.

  • @user-kf1he2pk3l
    @user-kf1he2pk3l 9 часов назад

    None of these candidates will be PM. Especially Badenoch & Jenrick. Best hope for the Tories is to skip a generation, as they did with Cameron. Choosing a poor performer from a poor government won't work.

  • @robertbones326
    @robertbones326 День назад

    James Cleverly told Spectator that his roots are in Braintree.
    James' IQ must be 200

  • @paulkirkewalker1974
    @paulkirkewalker1974 День назад

    Was Tom Tugendhat in the army? He never mentioned it. A bit like Sadik Khan never mentioning what his father did for a living.

  • @thomasbentele2468
    @thomasbentele2468 День назад

    A woman, then a man, then a woman, then a man, then a woman;
    so it seems to be easy to bet
    that the excellent, trans like foreign woman will be the next tory leader.
    Will be great for Reform UK.

  • @Slipstreamer
    @Slipstreamer День назад +1

    I want Tom or James to win because I want the Conservative party eradicated. (Though James' belated skepticism of lockdown is noted... he fully supported it at the time, of course.) Tom's apparent support for an end to online anonymity is highly disturbing.

    • @KingEurope1
      @KingEurope1 День назад +2

      It's getting tiring seeing James "India is the future" Cleverly pretend he didn't support the Tories record immigration and that he wouldn't juice it up even higher. Shame none of these "Conservatives" think the UK should be the future.

  • @thisisformydogz
    @thisisformydogz 9 часов назад

    The Torys and Liebour are done

  • @paulkirkewalker1974
    @paulkirkewalker1974 День назад

    Why is James Cleverly even a member of the Conservative Party?

  • @tonyrobinson362
    @tonyrobinson362 День назад

    How about stopping the ruddy boats, Are any of you listening? Thought not.

  • @militarymodellerpaul5932
    @militarymodellerpaul5932 День назад

    Does not mater really 😢

  • @ScragNath
    @ScragNath День назад

    Who will be the new Labour leader when this robot is pushed.

  • @Jomare-j3b
    @Jomare-j3b День назад +17

    Like comment if you prefer Reform to Conservatives

    • @GodsOwnPrototype
      @GodsOwnPrototype День назад

      Patriotic Chancers over Self serving Traitors?
      Of course.

    • @hansiesma16
      @hansiesma16 День назад

      Does mummy know you’re on her phone again looking for likes.

  • @cypresse1620
    @cypresse1620 День назад

    they all have as much character as a sock dare I say….

  • @MeredithBell-v3f
    @MeredithBell-v3f День назад

    Not a Brit to be seen

  • @jmiller7209
    @jmiller7209 День назад

    Kemi would struggle to win a majority, too inflammatory for floating voters and too inauthentic for Reform voters

  • @DarrenHill-k2x
    @DarrenHill-k2x День назад

    God help us

  • @Jomare-j3b
    @Jomare-j3b День назад +22

    Like comment if you want Badenoch

  • @Upthedubs1968
    @Upthedubs1968 День назад +5

    Badenoch basically verbatim plagiarising Tony Blair

    • @sabine1470
      @sabine1470 День назад

      She knows that a women does not have a penis.

    • @tombox24
      @tombox24 5 часов назад

      Sure like when she references conservative thinkers like sowell and scruton…. She is nothing like Blair

  • @eccehomer8182
    @eccehomer8182 День назад +2

    Silver bullet: The limitation of visas to only those who will benefit the country in a significant way and remove the incentives to come here for freeloaders.

    • @RF_Burns
      @RF_Burns День назад

      It's already too late, the damage is done and the consequences will play out over the forthcoming decades.

    • @KingEurope1
      @KingEurope1 День назад

      No chance. The Conservatives are the party of record immigration.
      They all lied to get into power in the last government by pretending to be centre-left, and then governed far-left. It's what the modern Tory party does.
      At least James Cleverly was being honest with what Tories truly think when he tweeted "India is the future". None of these people think the British or the UK are the future. It's just an economic zone to be ransacked with a defacto open borders. It's the Tory way.

  • @johnwebster6360
    @johnwebster6360 День назад

    Torres are toxic end of.
    Reform OK

    • @just_another32
      @just_another32 День назад

      *UK

    • @ScruffyTubbles
      @ScruffyTubbles День назад

      As you can't spell it would appear, you would be in fine company with most mouth foaming Reform voters.

  • @abuyusef27
    @abuyusef27 День назад +4

    If Kemi doesn’t win I’m returning my membership card.

    • @johnnierainey5761
      @johnnierainey5761 6 часов назад

      Is she really the cream of the crop? God help us if she is!

  • @seanpidduck
    @seanpidduck День назад +4

    I'll sill never vote for them again after allowing 4 million migrants in one parliament but Jenrick is head and shoulders above the rest. Actually sounds right wing.

    • @tomsh8787
      @tomsh8787 День назад

      Since he decided 12 months ago to be the right wing candidate in the coming leadership contest and had to totally reinvent himself as such.

  • @fitprotunes
    @fitprotunes День назад +4

    Jenrick just looks and sounds like a cliched 'Tory Boy'. Badenoch is the only one who stands a chance appealing to the public outside of the party and tough enough to make mincemeat of Starmer.

    • @PL-ds5jn
      @PL-ds5jn День назад +1

      He is the best candidate by a mile

    • @johnnierainey5761
      @johnnierainey5761 6 часов назад

      Everyone is wrong, wrong, wrong, except Kemi...and therein lies the problem!

  • @poppyland74
    @poppyland74 День назад +3

    So it has to be Kemi. Jenrick and Tommy T both wet on Elon and what he has done for free conservative speech on X. The fact they seem unaware or uninterested tells me all I need to know about their political position. The Q from Katy about naughtiness was unoriginal and trivial. So no I won't be resubscribing to this magazine.

  • @lobsterboy2020
    @lobsterboy2020 День назад +1

    Kemi pls

  • @Steven_Rowe
    @Steven_Rowe День назад

    I don't think the Tory candidates are any good, lack lustre, humdrum dead boring.
    I hope at the next election the Tories and Labour are both spent cartridges.
    They have been part of the them or us boring menu of politics and the blame is on the first past the post system and the electorate for not thinking outside the square.

  • @Jomare-j3b
    @Jomare-j3b День назад +6

    Like comment if you want Cleverly

  • @mariea82
    @mariea82 День назад

    Very inappropriate to lightheartedly joke about going to war.

  • @stephfoxwell4620
    @stephfoxwell4620 День назад

    It's a difficult question. Not a black or white issue.

  • @VeronicaMarriott-b6t
    @VeronicaMarriott-b6t День назад

    They’re all crap so not much between them

  • @roders007
    @roders007 День назад

    Kemi should be leader. Time for change

    • @johnnierainey5761
      @johnnierainey5761 6 часов назад

      Everyone is wrong, wrong, wrong, except Kemi...and therein lies the problem.

  • @Jomare-j3b
    @Jomare-j3b День назад +2

    Like comment if you want Jenrick

  • @velisvideos6208
    @velisvideos6208 День назад

    Who cares?

  • @ZuliailuZ183
    @ZuliailuZ183 День назад +1

    Not Olufemi. No way

  • @Bard_Land
    @Bard_Land День назад +1

    Leaving the ECHR is an easy answer with one big problem, the Good Friday agreement. No countries are happy with the current migration framework of the ECHR. Reforming the ECHR would be very tricky, and take years, but it's the most likely route to success. Derogations in the end are a bit of a red herring.

    • @dogbreaththe3rd851
      @dogbreaththe3rd851 День назад +1

      The Oirish should beg to rejoin the UK, making the GFA irrelevant.

    • @eccehomer8182
      @eccehomer8182 День назад

      The ECHR and the Supreme Court (both Blair policies) are in direct opposition to the 1689 Bill of Rights, which guarantees the Sovereignty of Parliament, therefore the Sovereignty of the People. Both need to go.

  • @Jomare-j3b
    @Jomare-j3b День назад

    First

  • @Jomare-j3b
    @Jomare-j3b День назад

    Like comment if you want Tugendhat