I was scanning for shoulders and skin in the thumbnail and noticed the midriff 😂 Immediately, I was like *she is OUT boiiii* regardless of whether she's Mormon or not
14:31 This reminds me of Jennette McCurdy's book, where she says that when her OCD first manifested as obsessive thoughts, she attributed it to the "still small voice" she'd been taught about at church and was ecstatic that it was finally speaking to her.
Gotta say as a non mormon with a mormon best friend being tricked into coming over for general conference night is the worst experience ive ever been in involving religion. Especially when the bishop comes over and hang out the entire time so all the kids have to actually watch
@@hannahsuzuki3919 one time we managed to climb out the bathroom window. After about 20 mins of trying to be stealthy we managed to scratch and scrape our way outside and after looking over our wounds to make sure we werent bleeding too badly we got to see the bishop drive off leaving early for a meeting and his dad made cookies and turned off the conference early too so we missed out on those
haha i actually went voluntarily to my friend's house to watch in on byu TV (utah ftw) i would always fall asleep during that shit. they are soo god damned monotone
I'm ex-mormon, dad is currently still a member. We have the missionaries over every Sunday for dinner and my dad ALWAYS tries to convince them that tattoos are okay. "When you walk into the temple what is the first thing you see?" -"A painting of Jesus" - "Exactly! If the church can hang art in their temple, and my body is a temple; why can't I hang art?" My dad has convinced so many missionaries to believe tattoos are okay with this simple argument. I dont go anymore as the most recent missionaries told us they agree with 95% of what Andrew Tate says, just not how he says it. They also called me by his name when I wore sunglasses inside due to a migraine. I almost assaulted a missionary that night.
yeah hahaha i feel like reducing the missionary age is making missionaries... worse? like just less mature and aware. i was literally moving a couch with my boyfriend and we were stopped by missionaries who asked us about our relationship with god, and DIDN'T EVEN OFFER to help move the couch??? like offering service to the community is the #1 thing for missionaries!
I mean he’s not wrong. Around people outside of the church usually we don’t care enough to correct you, but around each other we never refer to ourselves as mormons.
I was raised catholic not mormon but i have a similar experience with the psychology thing. Basically there was an overlap between me questioning my sexuality and questioning my faith and i had a moment during mass where i finally wholeheartedly accepted my queerness and that self acceptance gave me this huge feeling of relief and euphoria that straight up felt like a giant wave crashing on me in the best way possible. By that point i had already more or less figured out that i didnt want to stay in the catholic church but that moment delayed me realizing ive never truly believed in a higher power bc i thought it might be possible that that intense feeling i experienced while in church could be me feeling gods acceptance and love. Eventually though i realized it was just my own acceptance and relief from such a massive emotional and mental breakthrough.
honestly same! i was pretty hardcore Christian for a while in high school and completely pushed away the discovery of my sexuality because of that -- and got the acceptance came so much later i feel like half my life was taken away from me
@@lalalalalalalaalaa i was very lucky that i was only 14/15 when all this happened and even though my family is super religious i never really got into it. I was just kinda going thru the motions most of the time it was just the 15yrs of indoctrination that i had to work thru to figure out my real beliefs. But figuring out i was queer n being okay with it was a pretty quick and relatively painless process since i luckily absorbed the (sort of) positive gay episodes of la rosa de guadalupe i would watch as a kid n not so much the homophobic track record of the church. Hell i would even get into arguments with my mom over the churches treatment of queer ppl in middle school when i still thought i was straight. Unfortunately i know im not exactly the rule in this type of situation but rather the exception.
@@thefangirlraygood luck with finding yourself in spirituality and sexuality, I’m right beside you ;-; what I do believe is that any self discovery and love is beautiful, right and worth my energy
18:30 this and the sense of community are why it can be really hard to let go. It's taken me years but I can tell I'm at the end of the process of choosing to leave.
My first roommate in college was recovering from having been abused and exploited so badly in the church-in all imaginable ways. Her therapy ended up working against her recovery because she came to interpret a lot of her traumatic experiences as causes for religious revelation instead of instances of abuse or assault. To each their own, but it was really hard to watch someone who was so competent and rational otherwise ultimately take a path that was harmful and irrational to her, thinking she had a choice all the while, when it was clear to the rest of us around her that she did not-it was a compulsion fed by years of denial of love and mistreatment at the hands of those she should have been able to trust. I feel like her childhood experiences groomed her to be so accepting of abuse that it sadly became livable for her, until it wasn’t, anymore. Wherever her good heart is now, I hope she’s free of the abuse and fear this group allowed its elders and her own family to subject her to so deliberately and cruelly.
That’s so sad ❤ i can’t relate but i have been to rehab and it’s easy to see who will relapse (usually it’s the ones who “found god again”) so my heart hurts reading this, i hope things got better for them!
tbh I think she’s one of the only streamers that has a respectful opinion on it. she doesn’t disrespect or mock any religion just because she doesn’t agree/practice it anymore. she just gives us her experience. I really like that about her, even as someone who’s not religious.
@@Memu_ i literally said that she speaks based on her experience. damn, people read one word and base it off of that. she also said that she doesn’t want to offend anyone. there’s a difference between mocking a religion you know nothing about and speaking on your own experience within a religion.
@@Memu_ all religious institutions, political parties, and technically even your friend groups can all be considered a “cult”. Calling something a cult is just a way to hate on something without having a good reason to
@@bremjo7929 I'm not just hating on the mormon church for no reason. They actually act like a cult. It says a lot when a bunch of ex mormons like qt even call it a cult. There's also a huge difference between a friend group and the mormon church.
i was born mormon but always hated it so i love you for this QT. i havent laughed like this in a while. let's 100% get you sponsered for a general conference. maybe even have chat do the cringy general conference bingo cards we had to do for semenary
I've never seen her before but this was really good! I'm an ex mormon as well, I left about 3 1/2 years ago and I completely agree with what she said about the reasons people can be tricked into coming back after being inactive. I'm lucky to have a good community and friends who help give that sense of belonging, but even I've had times where I miss the sense of community and safety the church can offer. It's entirely the fact that it feels good to have structure in your life, and in fact the thing that I tend to miss on those rare occasions is the singing. Singing with a group, even if you're shit at it, is so good for you, but there aren't a lot of opportunities for that in day to day life. Even knowing the long lasting damage growing up in the church had on me, with internalized homphobia, sexism, and a whole host of other issues, I still miss it, and I hate that I miss it! I've never really heard anyone put the reasons people go back so plainly, but they're so clear when you think about them. Edit: the people in the replies don't understand that my issues with the church are on a structural level. Stop saying "yes there are some bad people in the church but they're wrong." I know that. I know there are plenty of good people in the church. The fact of the matter is that I am criticizing the LDS church on an INSTITUTIONAL level, not an individual one. Sure there are good people in the church, but when the church itself doesn't allow women to have the presthood and upholds harmful gender roles, when the Book of Mormon says that god cursed Laman and Lemuel and the mark of the curse was that their skin turned dark, when the church "accepts" queer people as long as they don't act on their attractions, those are issues that exist on an institutional level and affect the internalized beliefs of individuals within the church. I am not saying all Mormons are bad people, I have known some wonderful Mormons as well as some horrible ones. For god's sake, go read a sociology book if you want to argue. Maybe if you learn about the social forces that affect all of us and the way personal issues and public issues are connected you might actually be able to make some valid points.
@@lilducko how did you get sexism from society? aren't there any women in society? do you not see how flawed your logic is or are you asking ridiculous questions on purpose? of course my church was sexist and it caused me to have internalized worldviews that i had to unlearn later. sexism isnt just 'no women allowed' sexism is 'women have to fit this role of nurturing, motherly, taking care of the home and family, getting married and having kids, putting family above a job,' et cetera et cetera. mormon women aren't allowed to hold the priesthood. they can't be bishops, perform baptisms, give blessings. that's sexism within the church. there were also gender roles women and men were expected to perform. sexism isn't just individual bias against women, it is built into our society and therefore is also built into religion. go read a sociology book. the personal is public, the personal is political.
@@coelacanthropology Sexism is usually taught when it comes to sexism in society, and the the reason why women can't be bishops isn't sexist, they just specific rules on who can be a bishop
I am a member and unfortunately there are bad people in the church that I have come across, but they are not what we strive to be and they are wrong always! Plus is bad to become active again because you miss a sense of structure in your life, that's a good thing because you are improving your life so who cares.
@@timcrockett71 I would not define becoming active again as 'improving your life" but as you said you are a member I doubt we will see eye to eye on that. Also my issues with the church are on a structural level, but you seem to think I am criticising individuals. I know there are good people in the church, but that doesn't matter if the teachings of the church are harmful, which I believe they are. Again though, I doubt we will see eye to eye on that.
As an ex Mormon, despite still being young, I’ve had so many bad experiences. The Bishops I’ve had experience with are usually sexist and very creepy. (An example would be a past “fireside chat” where he took all the teens into his basement and talked about not so good things.) Another horrible experience was when I was younger I was SA’ed by a teenage boy and nothing was done about it. The church swept it under the rug as if it never happened. It almost happened a second time but because I was older I could actually defend myself and yet still no one did anything about it. Luckily I had my friends there to help me out (we often made fun of those who had a stick up their ass.) So I’d say the church is really corrupted and I feel bad for those who are lured in with a false sense of security. Stay safe out there y’all 👍❤️
Yeah, unfortunately the church is set up that way that they rarely prioritize protecting the victims of SA and instead are more concerned about protecting the "good name of the church". I'm sorry to hear that you had to go through that
I am a member and what happened to you is terrible, but those people are wrong. They are not living like you are taught in church. Just because they are bad does not mean that the institution is bad.
My Mom left the LDS just before I was born and we walked out of Christmas this year because the rest of the family started debating scripture. Biggest reason I love QT content because I relate to so much of it.
I'm a raised Christian, and the church itself has a lot of issues from inside. I love God and I'm grateful for my upbringing, but it's crazy how many fires are started inside the house and I think QT's insight on Mormonism highlights a lot of that- the judging, the hypocrisy, the elitism.. the whole bit
I had the same takeaway. Living in Oregon, It feels like I'm within 5 miles of a Mormon church anywhere in the state. I grew up in Utah and know the difference between it and Oregon, but Oregon still has a big Mormon presence.
YOOOOO! As an ex LATTER DAY fuckin Mormon 🤣 this was delightful! I support QTCinderella being sponsored by the church. She is wholesome and consistently doing positive things for her community. On another note…Caleb we get it…this isn’t your missionary days. Calm down we don’t need you giving your email to offer in home lessons by elders or sister missionaries.
The moment where she was reciting the young women's oath or whatever was so weird because it like unlocked a memory. I totally didn't think I still remembered it at all, but it was still there in my brain. I could skip ahead before either of you got to the end. So bizarre.
There's a saying in my (very catholic) country that would loosely translate as: Beware the cripples, there's a reason I marked them out. Said in the manner of fake gospel. Yeah, it's disgusting.
oh my god that judgemental chick was a huge flashback to 99% of the girls in my school in provo. it was super weird growing up in the reverse of what some of these mormons were growing up in. i was an evangelical christian among the highest concentration of mormons in the world lol.
QT gave the perfect explanation of why the benefits of religion are due to things that have nothing to do with god or the religion itself, it’s all just community, meditation, and things that are positive for your mental health so then people take those positive things and assume that’s “god”. That’s why there’s many atheist organizations that try and have things that help give community and those positive things to people without the made up fairytales and all the false negative shit that comes with religion .
this was actually really fun to watch. i grew up nonreligious but went to a school that was 40% mormon (gilbert, arizona) and so many memories came back-like the fact that seminary was a thing for extra elective credits-and it was super cool to hear about some of the inner workings of the church (which I believe is super corrupt and culty lol)
Born and raised in Queen Creek. Born Mormon, technically still in it but don’t believe it. It’s wild out here, I swear it’s so polarizing. It’s tough because I know a lot of good Mormons, but there’s also so many horrible ones that just can’t be defended. Only reason why they have my records still is for free school
I had a feeling it was the girl in the wheelchair I feel like they picked her as the mole bc whose going to be sus of a meek looking small girl in a wheelchair This is what made her completely conspicuous.. Plus you could tell that this 'game' triggered a lot of their indoctrination.. a lot of them acted frantic when they were doubted in how devout they were and expressed piety with affectation as if this was a freaking inquisition..
I bought my car in Utah. Literally the nicest people I've ever dealt with and that was buying a car. They picked me up at the airport in my car it was super easy and very considerate.
As a Utahn I can say that the people here are very nice, and pleasant. Not just because of the LDS Church either. Almost everyone you meet is kind and very willing to help out when asked. It's just part of the culture. It's not all sunshine tho, we also have the most 'corrupt' (I believe measured by how bought and paid for our politicians are?) government in the United Sates, for example.
@@plutigvid dude your state is a shit hole due to Mormons they think the entire state is byu and harass people wearing shorts. Not to mention the stupid alcohol rules they have in the state to comply
Haven't finished but I'm willing to bet Caleb is the non Mormon and is the best actor this side of the 2020s. Holy moley. I'm putting all my chips on him
I'm a member of the church, and qt saying that one girl who grandparent died is feeling good off of copium and not that she's actually going to see them has me rolling XD
Also fun fact as an ex member and person of color, I was one of few black people; seldom ever felt accepted, because I was a convert people would judge that. Jokes on them and their indirect scrutiny, I’m now an SWorker, still by habits being drilled into me, I tend to hold most the same values when it comes to people, forgiveness and the likes but yeah I had never felt more judged and unworthy of basically existing then when I was an adult in the church. High school was decent but downhill after that.
I just hate how judgemental some of them are. My grandma hates me because of all my piercings and tattoos and what I wear even though I’m not in the religion, she treats me differently than all her other grandkids cause of it even though I’m the only grandkid that actually spends time with her and values her existence the others just don’t give a care in the world for her
And she is 100% wrong. Anyone who treats someone poorly because of something about who they are is always wrong! As a member I can say that that is the point of our church. Unfortunately there are some really shitty members, but that does not mean that the teachings of an institution are wrong it means that person is wrong.
I know someone already said this, but definitely try to find friends outside of the church and just kinda do things you enjoy doing and find hobbies and stuff. I probably phrased that terribly but for me, I started doing acting stuff joined my school's theater program and found a new community of super supportive people who I share a similar interest with and yeah, I've definitely been the happiest I've ever been. So explore your hobbies and things you like doing is my suggestion
The guilt is what keeps all doubts in line. In reality guilt isn’t a tangible thing, but the judgment of others who will try and instill guilt in you, is real. From someone who was raised out of Utah & Mormonism… it’s bizarre. The US government went in and arrested all the church leaders when the beginnings of Mormon utopia started. Now it’s growing like a mass cult who made themselves very friendly as a means of survival from being shut down by the government or scaring away new members. It offers it’s followers a utopia as long as they agree to everything and buy in. However, I’ve met a lot of real people outside of Utah who left and have horror stories and are now underprepared for the outside world. The outside world is far more beautiful & fair, I promise. Know that a real loving god would be okay if you have to leave to know. We all wanna know, it’s not a unique feeling. If it was true we’d all be headed to Utah but we aren’t.
QT slowing down the video to show the judgemental mormon midriff glance was perfect
The best part is that she wasn’t the fake.
DUDE! IS NO ONE GOING TO MENTION HOW BOTH OF THE GIRLS LOOKED AT THE SAME TIME AND THE TALL ONE LOOKED AWAY AFTER?!
I mean, to be fair, judging people is the whole point of this video haha
@@wegaman2667 different typa judging
I was scanning for shoulders and skin in the thumbnail and noticed the midriff 😂 Immediately, I was like *she is OUT boiiii* regardless of whether she's Mormon or not
stop this is amazing. I'm savanna in the video lmaooo and I can say that I am no longer mormon. This vid is so embarrassing hahaha
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Good job escaping. I definitely thought it was you too
i guess there were really two moles in that game then, lol!
hope you’re doing alright! whatever your reason, you deserve the best!
omg slay
Good for you lol. Outta the cult.
If I may ask, what are you now? Just Christian or straight up Atheist maybe?
The play by play of the judgmental stare was the best part lmao
14:31 This reminds me of Jennette McCurdy's book, where she says that when her OCD first manifested as obsessive thoughts, she attributed it to the "still small voice" she'd been taught about at church and was ecstatic that it was finally speaking to her.
oh my god i loved that book so much
Gotta say as a non mormon with a mormon best friend being tricked into coming over for general conference night is the worst experience ive ever been in involving religion. Especially when the bishop comes over and hang out the entire time so all the kids have to actually watch
The way i'd immediately laugh and walk out lmao
As a member thats so not cool goshhhh. I would've left in an instantt
@@roserose6418 not with the way his dad looked at you... lmao scary stare that told you whos house you were in real quick
@@hannahsuzuki3919 one time we managed to climb out the bathroom window. After about 20 mins of trying to be stealthy we managed to scratch and scrape our way outside and after looking over our wounds to make sure we werent bleeding too badly we got to see the bishop drive off leaving early for a meeting and his dad made cookies and turned off the conference early too so we missed out on those
haha i actually went voluntarily to my friend's house to watch in on byu TV (utah ftw) i would always fall asleep during that shit. they are soo god damned monotone
I'm ex-mormon, dad is currently still a member. We have the missionaries over every Sunday for dinner and my dad ALWAYS tries to convince them that tattoos are okay. "When you walk into the temple what is the first thing you see?" -"A painting of Jesus" - "Exactly! If the church can hang art in their temple, and my body is a temple; why can't I hang art?" My dad has convinced so many missionaries to believe tattoos are okay with this simple argument.
I dont go anymore as the most recent missionaries told us they agree with 95% of what Andrew Tate says, just not how he says it. They also called me by his name when I wore sunglasses inside due to a migraine. I almost assaulted a missionary that night.
Wtf I’m so sorry
okay but that argument?? your dad is a genius
"They also called me by his name"
Huh? They called you Andrew Tate?
yeah hahaha i feel like reducing the missionary age is making missionaries... worse? like just less mature and aware. i was literally moving a couch with my boyfriend and we were stopped by missionaries who asked us about our relationship with god, and DIDN'T EVEN OFFER to help move the couch??? like offering service to the community is the #1 thing for missionaries!
@@calliisto4128 what the hell😭😭
The chatter who said "baldy and the bears" LOL made me laugh
that is just slime anders
🤣🤣🤣
@@master69oogway Fr I can't believe they dedicated scripture to him
best moment is the guy going "she said mormon a lot but I could not see any pain when she did, so clearly she's the fake"
I mean he’s not wrong. Around people outside of the church usually we don’t care enough to correct you, but around each other we never refer to ourselves as mormons.
@@bremjo7929except for that entire ad campaign from 2010 to 2018 lol
“These are just Mormons outmormoning each other” which is hilarious to hear and OBSURD
QT explaining the psychology of what is actually going on in cults is what we need.
I was raised catholic not mormon but i have a similar experience with the psychology thing. Basically there was an overlap between me questioning my sexuality and questioning my faith and i had a moment during mass where i finally wholeheartedly accepted my queerness and that self acceptance gave me this huge feeling of relief and euphoria that straight up felt like a giant wave crashing on me in the best way possible. By that point i had already more or less figured out that i didnt want to stay in the catholic church but that moment delayed me realizing ive never truly believed in a higher power bc i thought it might be possible that that intense feeling i experienced while in church could be me feeling gods acceptance and love. Eventually though i realized it was just my own acceptance and relief from such a massive emotional and mental breakthrough.
honestly same! i was pretty hardcore Christian for a while in high school and completely pushed away the discovery of my sexuality because of that -- and got the acceptance came so much later i feel like half my life was taken away from me
@@lalalalalalalaalaa i was very lucky that i was only 14/15 when all this happened and even though my family is super religious i never really got into it. I was just kinda going thru the motions most of the time it was just the 15yrs of indoctrination that i had to work thru to figure out my real beliefs. But figuring out i was queer n being okay with it was a pretty quick and relatively painless process since i luckily absorbed the (sort of) positive gay episodes of la rosa de guadalupe i would watch as a kid n not so much the homophobic track record of the church. Hell i would even get into arguments with my mom over the churches treatment of queer ppl in middle school when i still thought i was straight. Unfortunately i know im not exactly the rule in this type of situation but rather the exception.
I'm currently going through that overlap with questioning my faith and sexuality except I know I'm definitely queer and I was raised Mormon
@@thefangirlraygood luck with finding yourself in spirituality and sexuality, I’m right beside you ;-; what I do believe is that any self discovery and love is beautiful, right and worth my energy
@@monty7131 Thank you 🥰 Good luck to you to!
QT as the Mormon mole would be fantastic
The glance at the midriff from the girl on the left too at the beginning had me rolling
18:30 this and the sense of community are why it can be really hard to let go. It's taken me years but I can tell I'm at the end of the process of choosing to leave.
My first roommate in college was recovering from having been abused and exploited so badly in the church-in all imaginable ways. Her therapy ended up working against her recovery because she came to interpret a lot of her traumatic experiences as causes for religious revelation instead of instances of abuse or assault. To each their own, but it was really hard to watch someone who was so competent and rational otherwise ultimately take a path that was harmful and irrational to her, thinking she had a choice all the while, when it was clear to the rest of us around her that she did not-it was a compulsion fed by years of denial of love and mistreatment at the hands of those she should have been able to trust. I feel like her childhood experiences groomed her to be so accepting of abuse that it sadly became livable for her, until it wasn’t, anymore. Wherever her good heart is now, I hope she’s free of the abuse and fear this group allowed its elders and her own family to subject her to so deliberately and cruelly.
That’s so sad ❤ i can’t relate but i have been to rehab and it’s easy to see who will relapse (usually it’s the ones who “found god again”) so my heart hurts reading this, i hope things got better for them!
QT’s insight to the religion is really interesting. I really enjoy these videos from her.
tbh I think she’s one of the only streamers that has a respectful opinion on it. she doesn’t disrespect or mock any religion just because she doesn’t agree/practice it anymore. she just gives us her experience. I really like that about her, even as someone who’s not religious.
@@jen-jl5dn What are you talking about? She has stated so many times that she thinks it's a cult. That isn't very respectful. But it is correct.
@@Memu_ i literally said that she speaks based on her experience. damn, people read one word and base it off of that. she also said that she doesn’t want to offend anyone. there’s a difference between mocking a religion you know nothing about and speaking on your own experience within a religion.
@@Memu_ all religious institutions, political parties, and technically even your friend groups can all be considered a “cult”. Calling something a cult is just a way to hate on something without having a good reason to
@@bremjo7929 I'm not just hating on the mormon church for no reason. They actually act like a cult. It says a lot when a bunch of ex mormons like qt even call it a cult. There's also a huge difference between a friend group and the mormon church.
You would think with the gift of discernment they would only need 1 round.
lmfao
i was born mormon but always hated it so i love you for this QT. i havent laughed like this in a while. let's 100% get you sponsered for a general conference. maybe even have chat do the cringy general conference bingo cards we had to do for semenary
The way I saw the haircut and jewelry on the fake Mormon and just KNEW
I can’t believe QT’s favorite scripture is about Slime
I've never seen her before but this was really good! I'm an ex mormon as well, I left about 3 1/2 years ago and I completely agree with what she said about the reasons people can be tricked into coming back after being inactive. I'm lucky to have a good community and friends who help give that sense of belonging, but even I've had times where I miss the sense of community and safety the church can offer. It's entirely the fact that it feels good to have structure in your life, and in fact the thing that I tend to miss on those rare occasions is the singing. Singing with a group, even if you're shit at it, is so good for you, but there aren't a lot of opportunities for that in day to day life. Even knowing the long lasting damage growing up in the church had on me, with internalized homphobia, sexism, and a whole host of other issues, I still miss it, and I hate that I miss it! I've never really heard anyone put the reasons people go back so plainly, but they're so clear when you think about them.
Edit: the people in the replies don't understand that my issues with the church are on a structural level. Stop saying "yes there are some bad people in the church but they're wrong." I know that. I know there are plenty of good people in the church. The fact of the matter is that I am criticizing the LDS church on an INSTITUTIONAL level, not an individual one. Sure there are good people in the church, but when the church itself doesn't allow women to have the presthood and upholds harmful gender roles, when the Book of Mormon says that god cursed Laman and Lemuel and the mark of the curse was that their skin turned dark, when the church "accepts" queer people as long as they don't act on their attractions, those are issues that exist on an institutional level and affect the internalized beliefs of individuals within the church. I am not saying all Mormons are bad people, I have known some wonderful Mormons as well as some horrible ones. For god's sake, go read a sociology book if you want to argue. Maybe if you learn about the social forces that affect all of us and the way personal issues and public issues are connected you might actually be able to make some valid points.
How did u get sexism from church? Weren't there any women in ur church?
@@lilducko how did you get sexism from society? aren't there any women in society?
do you not see how flawed your logic is or are you asking ridiculous questions on purpose?
of course my church was sexist and it caused me to have internalized worldviews that i had to unlearn later. sexism isnt just 'no women allowed' sexism is 'women have to fit this role of nurturing, motherly, taking care of the home and family, getting married and having kids, putting family above a job,' et cetera et cetera. mormon women aren't allowed to hold the priesthood. they can't be bishops, perform baptisms, give blessings. that's sexism within the church. there were also gender roles women and men were expected to perform. sexism isn't just individual bias against women, it is built into our society and therefore is also built into religion. go read a sociology book. the personal is public, the personal is political.
@@coelacanthropology Sexism is usually taught when it comes to sexism in society, and the the reason why women can't be bishops isn't sexist, they just specific rules on who can be a bishop
I am a member and unfortunately there are bad people in the church that I have come across, but they are not what we strive to be and they are wrong always! Plus is bad to become active again because you miss a sense of structure in your life, that's a good thing because you are improving your life so who cares.
@@timcrockett71 I would not define becoming active again as 'improving your life" but as you said you are a member I doubt we will see eye to eye on that. Also my issues with the church are on a structural level, but you seem to think I am criticising individuals. I know there are good people in the church, but that doesn't matter if the teachings of the church are harmful, which I believe they are. Again though, I doubt we will see eye to eye on that.
Not the " I VOTED FOR YOU EVERY ROUND" 🤣
As an ex Mormon, despite still being young, I’ve had so many bad experiences. The Bishops I’ve had experience with are usually sexist and very creepy.
(An example would be a past “fireside chat” where he took all the teens into his basement and talked about not so good things.)
Another horrible experience was when I was younger I was SA’ed by a teenage boy and nothing was done about it. The church swept it under the rug as if it never happened.
It almost happened a second time but because I was older I could actually defend myself and yet still no one did anything about it. Luckily I had my friends there to help me out (we often made fun of those who had a stick up their ass.)
So I’d say the church is really corrupted and I feel bad for those who are lured in with a false sense of security. Stay safe out there y’all 👍❤️
Yeah, unfortunately the church is set up that way that they rarely prioritize protecting the victims of SA and instead are more concerned about protecting the "good name of the church". I'm sorry to hear that you had to go through that
I am a member and what happened to you is terrible, but those people are wrong. They are not living like you are taught in church. Just because they are bad does not mean that the institution is bad.
My Mom left the LDS just before I was born and we walked out of Christmas this year because the rest of the family started debating scripture. Biggest reason I love QT content because I relate to so much of it.
I'm a raised Christian, and the church itself has a lot of issues from inside. I love God and I'm grateful for my upbringing, but it's crazy how many fires are started inside the house and I think QT's insight on Mormonism highlights a lot of that- the judging, the hypocrisy, the elitism.. the whole bit
as also an ex LDS member this banter QT does brings me such joy cause I have the exact same thoughts LOL great vid
Man as a someone who hasn’t gone back to the Mormon church for over a year I need to see more QT Mormon content it just fills my lil exmo heart
dude on the far left, playing with his wedding ring as he mutters about his focus changing. he just hates his wife.
Yea ok sherlock ass
Girl: I lived in Oregon and there weren't many Mormons
Me: fake Mormon spotted
It's funny what things give people away.....
I had the same takeaway. Living in Oregon, It feels like I'm within 5 miles of a Mormon church anywhere in the state. I grew up in Utah and know the difference between it and Oregon, but Oregon still has a big Mormon presence.
YOOOOO! As an ex LATTER DAY fuckin Mormon 🤣 this was delightful! I support QTCinderella being sponsored by the church. She is wholesome and consistently doing positive things for her community.
On another note…Caleb we get it…this isn’t your missionary days. Calm down we don’t need you giving your email to offer in home lessons by elders or sister missionaries.
I got Natalie in the first round, she said something that implied she used to be Mormon but no longer is
I feel Caleb has the Habsburg chin but maybe I am wrong.
he does it was fuckin with me
Classic sympton of generations of inbreeding
don't insult the looks of a person you disagree with, someone with the same features might be reading the comments, it can be really hurtful
The moment where she was reciting the young women's oath or whatever was so weird because it like unlocked a memory. I totally didn't think I still remembered it at all, but it was still there in my brain. I could skip ahead before either of you got to the end. So bizarre.
It's wild seeing hapsburg jaw like Calebs.
felt like i just joined a lecture on the psychology of religion and i'm not mad about it at all
Kaleb like I knew it I voted for you every round. 1. 109% he’s single and 2. He’s probably super ableist.
There's a saying in my (very catholic) country that would loosely translate as:
Beware the cripples, there's a reason I marked them out.
Said in the manner of fake gospel. Yeah, it's disgusting.
oh my god that judgemental chick was a huge flashback to 99% of the girls in my school in provo. it was super weird growing up in the reverse of what some of these mormons were growing up in. i was an evangelical christian among the highest concentration of mormons in the world lol.
QT gave the perfect explanation of why the benefits of religion are due to things that have nothing to do with god or the religion itself, it’s all just community, meditation, and things that are positive for your mental health so then people take those positive things and assume that’s “god”. That’s why there’s many atheist organizations that try and have things that help give community and those positive things to people without the made up fairytales and all the false negative shit that comes with religion .
this was actually really fun to watch. i grew up nonreligious but went to a school that was 40% mormon (gilbert, arizona) and so many memories came back-like the fact that seminary was a thing for extra elective credits-and it was super cool to hear about some of the inner workings of the church (which I believe is super corrupt and culty lol)
oh my gosh I'm from Mesa Arizona and so many of my classmates were mormon
Born and raised in Queen Creek. Born Mormon, technically still in it but don’t believe it. It’s wild out here, I swear it’s so polarizing. It’s tough because I know a lot of good Mormons, but there’s also so many horrible ones that just can’t be defended. Only reason why they have my records still is for free school
I thought it said moron. I think that'd be far goofier
2:03 can't tell if this is baldophobia or pro bald
Definitely some bald insecurity
I'm in the process of leaving the mormon church and I love this and all of qt's input she is spot on
Naah Caleb wants to keep talking cos he wants a larger cut of the prize money 😏
Honestly mad respect for qt for being able to get out of that system
I had a feeling it was the girl in the wheelchair
I feel like they picked her as the mole bc whose going to be sus of a meek looking small girl in a wheelchair
This is what made her completely conspicuous..
Plus you could tell that this 'game' triggered a lot of their indoctrination.. a lot of them acted frantic when they were doubted in how devout they were and expressed piety with affectation as if this was a freaking inquisition..
I'm also ex-mormon, and I literally had the same favorite scripture as qt lol
this the qt content I NEED
can we talk about the faint whisper of "bye savanah" as she left. idk where it came from, maybe the mormon god
the struggle as an exmormon of not knowing if you should expose them, or just stay quiet.
you know, so you aren't seen as a hand of the devil?
also the camp for young men was senior aaronic.
I, personally, would love to be seen as a hand of the devil. Especially mormons.
the mormon glare is so real omg
the girl spoke Finnish really well!
I bought my car in Utah. Literally the nicest people I've ever dealt with and that was buying a car. They picked me up at the airport in my car it was super easy and very considerate.
As a Utahn I can say that the people here are very nice, and pleasant. Not just because of the LDS Church either. Almost everyone you meet is kind and very willing to help out when asked. It's just part of the culture. It's not all sunshine tho, we also have the most 'corrupt' (I believe measured by how bought and paid for our politicians are?) government in the United Sates, for example.
@@plutigvid dude your state is a shit hole due to Mormons they think the entire state is byu and harass people wearing shorts. Not to mention the stupid alcohol rules they have in the state to comply
I got my records removed from the lds church last year but I still screamed when I realized I still know the YW theme by heart
this was hilarious to watch with Qt's commentary
This vid confirms Qt is a lurker on the xmo sub
Haven't finished but I'm willing to bet Caleb is the non Mormon and is the best actor this side of the 2020s. Holy moley. I'm putting all my chips on him
I ALWAYS bring up 2 kings 2:23 lol
So much fun watching this as an ex-Mormon
i have seen this video in my recommended at least 5 times and every single time i read the title as "moron"
I'm a member of the church, and qt saying that one girl who grandparent died is feeling good off of copium and not that she's actually going to see them has me rolling XD
13:39 No my ward did that too lol
Fear& made me a qt fan
My family used to call fast Sunday. Starve and tell your story day
really appreciate qt talking about cults as i was also raised in one
Until last year, I had no clue QT used to be Mormon. As a former Mormon myself, I find that quite relatable.
This is so surreal, how does this still exist in 2023?
should have just brought up the secret handshakes
Also fun fact as an ex member and person of color, I was one of few black people; seldom ever felt accepted, because I was a convert people would judge that. Jokes on them and their indirect scrutiny, I’m now an SWorker, still by habits being drilled into me, I tend to hold most the same values when it comes to people, forgiveness and the likes but yeah I had never felt more judged and unworthy of basically existing then when I was an adult in the church. High school was decent but downhill after that.
I just hate how judgemental some of them are. My grandma hates me because of all my piercings and tattoos and what I wear even though I’m not in the religion, she treats me differently than all her other grandkids cause of it even though I’m the only grandkid that actually spends time with her and values her existence the others just don’t give a care in the world for her
And she is 100% wrong. Anyone who treats someone poorly because of something about who they are is always wrong! As a member I can say that that is the point of our church. Unfortunately there are some really shitty members, but that does not mean that the teachings of an institution are wrong it means that person is wrong.
The teachings are still wrong though
Yoooooo QT likin the Baldhead scripture is AMAZING
You know it’s an old video when the yw theme is dated lol 😂
I still have the old one memorized
Every time QT talks about mormonism I thank god I was raised Reform Jewish (BH) with peace and love to the mormons out there
So many truths! Great vid, shout out from Puerto Rico
Oh my God QT you and I have the same favourite scripture! Hahaha. It's a classic. Elijah and Elisha had zero chill
Can we communally sponsor a QT-mormon-react? I 100% support the reparations of tithings
The craziest part is that while watching this video, RUclips put mormon videos on my recommended
Exeunt, chased by Bears.
they dont want it to be mormon, because people thought we worshipped mormon
Wonderful trick putting QT in the forefront of the thumbnail twice so we knew it was a QTCinderella video and not an Odd One Out video
lmao the bald guy and bears was also my favorite scripture when i was a christian kid
The one she couldn’t think abt is high adventure
The guy in the blue on right is actually crimson chin.
caleb just wants to win the best most mormon mormon the whole time its
Peak qt content pog
you talking about trek gave me flashbacks. i got heat stroke and they SOAKED me in water 😭😭
Wait... How was Z the only one in her family to have been baptized Mormon and participating in the church... AT 10 YEARS OLD
"I need some of that tithing back" - as an ex evangelical, I felt that so bad
as soon as the mole said she was from Oregon I suspected her haha (-an Oregonian exmo)
I read moron not Mormon and was soooo confused 😂😂😂😂
As a mormon drifting away from the church it’s hard dealing with guilt… any pointers on getting passed it?
Find friends outside the church and have a new experience with the world, outside the bubble.
Be comfortable with the idea of selfishness. You’ll feel that a lot, but it’s just you looking out for yourself. Ergo, it’s not a “bad” trait
I know someone already said this, but definitely try to find friends outside of the church and just kinda do things you enjoy doing and find hobbies and stuff. I probably phrased that terribly but for me, I started doing acting stuff joined my school's theater program and found a new community of super supportive people who I share a similar interest with and yeah, I've definitely been the happiest I've ever been. So explore your hobbies and things you like doing is my suggestion
The guilt is what keeps all doubts in line. In reality guilt isn’t a tangible thing, but the judgment of others who will try and instill guilt in you, is real. From someone who was raised out of Utah & Mormonism… it’s bizarre. The US government went in and arrested all the church leaders when the beginnings of Mormon utopia started. Now it’s growing like a mass cult who made themselves very friendly as a means of survival from being shut down by the government or scaring away new members. It offers it’s followers a utopia as long as they agree to everything and buy in. However, I’ve met a lot of real people outside of Utah who left and have horror stories and are now underprepared for the outside world. The outside world is far more beautiful & fair, I promise. Know that a real loving god would be okay if you have to leave to know. We all wanna know, it’s not a unique feeling. If it was true we’d all be headed to Utah but we aren’t.
for a moment i though that being voted out would mean disappearing from the cult
and i was rooting for people to be voted out
I literally thought the clay guy and other guy were the same person until one of them got eliminated
I immediately knew it was her because growing up with a large mormon population in my small town I never met a single mormon girl with hair that short
I have met a lot of them
QT i love the Mormon content !!
Church Ball (Mormon Movie) out here getting totally slept on.
They should have had a non member with converts. Its pretty easy to pick out one member from Mormons who have been in the church since they were born
I think this just made more me atheistic
It's youth conference!! My stake also did it when I was there
the moment they started saying 'educate our audience' like oh, my god, i really was like that. oof
Didn’t know slime was in the Bible