Probably because, among the many other things she did in life, Ms.Tubman was a scout and spy for the US government during the Civil War. Maybe read up on her history, dude. You might learn something.
Just FYI after the game awards and you 'anti woke police' revealing that you are all fake and don't actually play games, no one cares about you. Seriously, you all messed up by dissing Witcher 4 and Ciri being in it because you all showed that you don't actually play games. Devs officially don't care any more about you.
They do. Gandhi is probably the most famous example and he's been around since the first game iirc. Other non-politician leaders they've had includes Joan D'Arc, Sacajawea and Ben Franklin . Civ from what I've seen tend to go for historical impact when choosing leaders rather than whether or not they were actually HOS .
There is an opportunity to include some more notable people now. For example, Efunroye Tinubu (owned 360 slaves) and Tippu Tip (owned 10,000 slaves). We've already had Mansa Musa (12,000 slaves) and Askia of Songhai as leaders in Civ but perhaps Ghezo of Dahomey could be included too.
Gonna be honest, kinda wanted to see Fredrick Douglass or MLK Jr. For the black American representative. Harriet Tubman just sorta feels...off, you know? Probably the fact that she steals stuff better through spies and is more militaristically inclined, which feel disingenuous to the character.
Not really? She WAS a spy for the US military during the Civil War and lead a raid that freed 700+ slaves (The Raid on Combahee Ferry). Iirc she even posthumously got a medal for her work and this year was given the rank of a 1 star Brigadier General by her home state of Maryland.
So the Confucius problem has only gotten worse. Ignoring that "militaristic" is a *terrible* way to describe someone who, while she may have travelled armed due to the dangers of the underground railroad, never actually shot at or fought anyone, and even ignoring that either you'll end up having slavery as some sort of policy card or the like under her(creating an irony that puts nuclear Ghandi to shame) or you can't because that's just not in the game anymore(at which point we really *would* be going down the woke/hurt-feelings route that alot of people claim), Harriet Tubman was not a leader in the sense that a person needs to be for this kind of thing. She was a hero, no question there, but heroes and leaders aren't the same thing. Would you make Audie Murphy the leader of America? How about making Leonardo Da Vinci the leader of Italy, or Ferdinand Magellan the leader of Spain? You're taking what should be Great People and turning them into leaders when it just doesn't make sense to do that.
Only if they have removed the mechanic to have slaves in the game... if not, things will be much fun for lots of people, especially with this new leader.
Not quite losing my mind, but this is certainly a peculiar choice. Usually it's leaders of empires/kingdoms/nations/etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but, while she has an incredible legacy, she is none of the above, nor anywhere close. Strange decision, and it does seem like the devs want to send a particular message about their own values by including Tubman.
Yes. The Firaxis developers are leaning into 'non leaders' being leaders. Ghandi never led India, ever, but he has been in-game since Civ 1. Ben Franklin was never president but he's in here too.
Bye. No one cares about the 'anti woke' police anymore. You dummies overplayed your hand yapping about Ciri in Witcher 4 and now no one cares. And it's because you were fake this whole time. You. Don't. Play. Games.
So you're comparing a spy master in the union army to 2 kids? Quick question homie, where does your mitochondria come from? As in, the mitochondria in your own blood cells right now? Where does it come from?
Bye girl. No one cares about the 'anti woke' police anymore. You dummies overplayed your hand yapping about Ciri in Witcher 4 and now no one cares. And it's because you were fake this whole time. You. Don't. Play. Games.
David its not woke that she is actually fighting slavery it might be woke that she said too be a leader and they rob our boy the man, the myth, the mugshot Frederick Douglass
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Why does her trait make her steal stuff better? rofl
Because she was the first modern spymasters for the US: www.intelligence.gov/evolution-of-espionage/civil-war/union-espionage/harriet-tubman
Probably because, among the many other things she did in life, Ms.Tubman was a scout and spy for the US government during the Civil War. Maybe read up on her history, dude. You might learn something.
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You get a girlfriend yet?
It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em.
Cotton
Just FYI after the game awards and you 'anti woke police' revealing that you are all fake and don't actually play games, no one cares about you. Seriously, you all messed up by dissing Witcher 4 and Ciri being in it because you all showed that you don't actually play games. Devs officially don't care any more about you.
@@futureshocked Look how well that worked out for DA: Veilguard, lmao
@@futureshockedy r u gae
COTTON?
Wait...so they making a Slave Freedom Heroine...the leader of a nation with slaves?
Did they...think though this?
And Ghandis nation is a nation of hungry and creepy protesters , right?
Did you think through this?
Trailer straight up says leaders are separated from countries lil bro
@@Peasham so it was a deliberate choice by the studio to show her as the leader of a slave nation???
seems sus. . .
@@thrawn-ys9hf anything to whine and make some gotcha point about video games eh kid
@@Peasham These reactionaries gotta react.
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Pair Harriet Tubman, the former slave, with America... to improve production.
Plot twist--she was a spymaster for the UNION...ya know, the Union which won because it literally had better production.
So... the mechanic to have slaves will still be present in Civ 7, right? Because this leader will make things so much fun.
Quick question--where does your mitochondria come from. Go research it. I'll be here.
@@futureshocked Quick question are you neurodivergent?
Two of your identical comment/reply are showing next to each other in this comment section. Maybe chill?
No, there is no slavery in Civ 7. Thats the actual hilarious part. Slavery as a game mechanic would make lil bro mad.
@@SirJordanLore Closest thing is capturing workers. That's about it. A man can dream though.
Next release will have Che as the American leader
I'm sorry, what?
Kind of like that they're making characters now that wherent leaders. Gives you a few more options.
so there was not Emperor Norton
Weird to pick her, she was a figure and not a leader. But does civ do this a lot? ive only played 1 game
Ghandi was never a leader of India
They do. Gandhi is probably the most famous example and he's been around since the first game iirc. Other non-politician leaders they've had includes Joan D'Arc, Sacajawea and Ben Franklin . Civ from what I've seen tend to go for historical impact when choosing leaders rather than whether or not they were actually HOS .
@@thegeneralpopulace8513 You haven't seen much civ then, not much at all.
@@criZp0 Maybe. I've only been playing since 4,after all🤷♀️.
Plot twist, she goes down the fascist play style later.
There is an opportunity to include some more notable people now. For example, Efunroye Tinubu (owned 360 slaves) and Tippu Tip (owned 10,000 slaves). We've already had Mansa Musa (12,000 slaves) and Askia of Songhai as leaders in Civ but perhaps Ghezo of Dahomey could be included too.
This doesn't have much to do with owning slaves *per se*. Harriet's skill set is that she was literally a spymaster.
She was literally a myth invented in the 20th century.
@Harquebuze No she isn't, shut up know-nothing.
Saved myself a pre-order
thank goodness 🙏🏻
Yeah. Your username says it all, you're not a serious person.
Did they include buses in the game?
Quick question--where does your mitochondria come from? I'll wait while you research that.
@@futureshocked no one cares lil bro, nice job meat riding the corporation
Gonna be honest, kinda wanted to see Fredrick Douglass or MLK Jr. For the black American representative. Harriet Tubman just sorta feels...off, you know? Probably the fact that she steals stuff better through spies and is more militaristically inclined, which feel disingenuous to the character.
Not really? She WAS a spy for the US military during the Civil War and lead a raid that freed 700+ slaves (The Raid on Combahee Ferry). Iirc she even posthumously got a medal for her work and this year was given the rank of a 1 star Brigadier General by her home state of Maryland.
yeah but Douglass or MLKJ doesn't help firaxis fill their women quota
Given that they’ve separated leaders from countries, this seems fine to me.
cant wait for Tubman led Mongols... Ben Franklin leading the Aztecs... yeah, seems completely believable to me 🙄
This made me want to watch the key and peels sketch - go Harriet!! ❤
So the Confucius problem has only gotten worse. Ignoring that "militaristic" is a *terrible* way to describe someone who, while she may have travelled armed due to the dangers of the underground railroad, never actually shot at or fought anyone, and even ignoring that either you'll end up having slavery as some sort of policy card or the like under her(creating an irony that puts nuclear Ghandi to shame) or you can't because that's just not in the game anymore(at which point we really *would* be going down the woke/hurt-feelings route that alot of people claim), Harriet Tubman was not a leader in the sense that a person needs to be for this kind of thing. She was a hero, no question there, but heroes and leaders aren't the same thing. Would you make Audie Murphy the leader of America? How about making Leonardo Da Vinci the leader of Italy, or Ferdinand Magellan the leader of Spain? You're taking what should be Great People and turning them into leaders when it just doesn't make sense to do that.
Civ5 vs Civ6 who’s better?
civ 4
I'm sure the comments will be lovely
Hi, how is your day going? :)
@@Egg_of_the_King very nice how about you?
oh man, the worst person you know is about to be livid when they see this
👨🏻🦳👑: “BLAAAAACK!!!!”
Self-righteousness and passive-aggressive humor. Always hand in hand. Very 2024.
@@OrphanHart You, we're talking about you.
Pfft, fuk'em
@@OrphanHart We laughing at you, lil bro.
The usual suspects are about to lose their goddamn minds and I’m all for it.
Only if they have removed the mechanic to have slaves in the game... if not, things will be much fun for lots of people, especially with this new leader.
Mmmm the tears of the hateful! So yummy!
Everything gets worse and dumber and to leftists it's all just about owning the chuds...
Not quite losing my mind, but this is certainly a peculiar choice. Usually it's leaders of empires/kingdoms/nations/etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but, while she has an incredible legacy, she is none of the above, nor anywhere close.
Strange decision, and it does seem like the devs want to send a particular message about their own values by including Tubman.
Lose their minds: ie not buy the game and the company goes broke
Wtf? What would anthony Cumia think??
Wait are there slaves in this game?
Mongolia is in the game--is the black death in the game?
yessa massa
No, thats the hilarious part. Slavery as a game function would make lil bro's mad.
Yay woke garbo in my game!
Chicago is doing well
Bigger GDP than Switzerland 💯💯
My cousin is in Chicago and she loves it there lol
We're the besssssssstttttt
Wichita is doing well
Do people really think Chicago is just O'Block??
Imagine wanting to play as her, 😂
.the leader of a nation with slaves?
Is this real?!?!?
Yes. The Firaxis developers are leaning into 'non leaders' being leaders. Ghandi never led India, ever, but he has been in-game since Civ 1. Ben Franklin was never president but he's in here too.
@@futureshockedhere's your ten shekels.
Not an onion article. Wow.
Quick question--where does your mitochondria come from?
@@futureshocked
"Mitochondria originated by permanent enslavement of purple non-sulphur bacteria"
Yikes sweetie.
THEY YASSIFIED HER!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *cancels preorder* AHHHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Bye. No one cares about the 'anti woke' police anymore. You dummies overplayed your hand yapping about Ciri in Witcher 4 and now no one cares. And it's because you were fake this whole time. You. Don't. Play. Games.
@@futureshocked Gotta love when someone gets so salty they post the same reply under multiple comments
Triggered pansy.
Can’t wait to play as Hellen Keller, plus the Anne Frank bonus pack
So you're comparing a spy master in the union army to 2 kids? Quick question homie, where does your mitochondria come from? As in, the mitochondria in your own blood cells right now? Where does it come from?
I'm hoping for Oprah Winfrey or perhaps LeBron James. Maybe have Bill Cosby as a Rockband this go.
@@futureshockedTake your meds.
👀!
Dead on arrival.
eh people only buy the previous civ after complaining about the latest civ.
LOL cry more peasant.
Gonna straight up have Elon Musk next...keep it up.....!.....
Elon Musk reveal when?
Tech rush booster or diplomacy/trade based strat or wonder maker?
.. are you comparing historic chops of Elon Musk to Harriet Tubman ?
When he's important or has done literally anything new.
When he's six feet under.
Nah, he'd be a merchant. As all he knows how to work is money.
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Lol
xD
WTF?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAH
this isn't even worth pirating anymore
What utter woke garbage
bros name is david smith
Bye girl. No one cares about the 'anti woke' police anymore. You dummies overplayed your hand yapping about Ciri in Witcher 4 and now no one cares. And it's because you were fake this whole time. You. Don't. Play. Games.
Chill Ben Franklin is in it too
David its not woke that she is actually fighting slavery
it might be woke that she said too be a leader
and they rob our boy the man, the myth, the mugshot Frederick Douglass
The Left is going to lose their minds over this, pahaha!
Im from the left. Very excited to use her as my spymaster
Historians who loved this franchise will lose their minds. Between this and Civ 7 games ending in 1950. . .
@@chazzwozziothief master you mean quite fitting for AM