An African descendant of American slavery here, this was one of my favorite lectures on the summaries of Black Marxism. However, the questions and answers segment made me think everyone totally misread Robinson's text....I think non Blacks like those in this video, can't seem to differentiate between historical Africans from identity formations within capital. We are Africans, period! But capital creates a hierarchy of differences. Many of newly African countries were socialist and have created links of labor solidarity with Africans in America. So I think it's wrong to assume that because there are differences in socialization with racial capitalism in diasporic African people that they are somehow separate. This is why India fails to democratize between their labor caste contradictions and why Modhi is doing what he is doing to non Hindus on the sub continent. We are Black Marxists, we are really like this. Y'all should ask better questions instead of assuming matters beyond your scope of reason. Get it right.
I disagree - there is a substantial gulf between African Americans and Africans in Africa that has arisen out of history. There may be points of unity that arise from a Pan African perspective but there is no contemporary unifying thread that can over stand or dominate over the differences that have arisen over time. Not least because Pan Africanism is not an idea that sits outside of history, economic and cultural considerations. I thought the questions were excellent - how else are students going to learn if they are afraid they will not "get it right"?
@@MrSnippety what are you talking about? If Blacks and Africans were a nation there would be just as much differences within Pan Africanism just like there are different types of Venezuelans in Venezuela, Iraqis in Iraq, and Indians in India and so on and so on. So be for real when it comes to this unifying thing...singular ideological identities/ethnicities not required for Pan Africanism. Beside, you will only get it right when you take the ideas of the Cedric Robinson seriously. Something that the classroom didn't do, they projected their understanding on Robinson's work, like what you are doing. If you disagree with Cedric Robinson's work that's fine but don't assume you are the same epistemological plane as him. I can tell you haven't read his work by your rebuttal and the framing of your questions. If knew his work you would know that the only division between Africans and Africans in the diaspora is class, settler colonialism is a total racial regime. The ghettoes and the urban core slums are products of the same process, coloniality. Africa has a pan historical development just like Europe, just like anyone else. So stop trying to make excuses for why Blacks and Africans should discredit themselves out of history.
Ebonics is the term that was first coined back in the 1970s by Dr. Robert Williams, an African-American psychology professor in St. Louis, MO. Through further study by linguist experts, they now call it African American English.
I feel like this is a little bit of misunderstanding, but it’s not that we wanna do Our own thing… it is that we want to center the harm that’s done to the black fem disabled trans body pacifically because in that we all will gain freedom.
Thank you very much. A very informative presentation. I'm also wondering if your student with glasses who was late for class passed this class. All my life I always wanted to be that relaxed and carefree person, but I couldn't achieve it.
What I meant to say is two things: 1. Plato had a bigger influence on Christianity than Aristotle. 2. Aristotle had a bigger influence on Islamic philosophy. Sorry if it came out wrong.
@@TaimurRahman-English No need to apologize. And I agree on both points, although admittedly I'm less well informed on the latter. Nevertheless, that was my understanding. I enjoy your vids, thx.
@@metrobusman thanks for your feedback. I should have said Aristotle is not "exclusively" part of Western civilisation. Next time will be more careful. Please keep your comments coming. I appreciate your feedback.
that's not even remotely what the book is about. i read it a couple yrs ago. it's just showing how radical black traditions connected throughout history to marxist struggles. there's no need to dismiss it, there's no need for knee jerk reactions that just make it look like you don't wanna learn
@@kerycktotebag8164 yes, it is, but also making an important point about the limited point of view of the Western mindset that led to Marxism, and that the story is much longer and probably not entirely based in Western ideas of how history develops, specifically calling into question the materialist conception of history.
That's what European socialism.... colorblind communism to hide European racialization in Marxism. lol y'all trash and y'all at the same time need us....
An African descendant of American slavery here, this was one of my favorite lectures on the summaries of Black Marxism. However, the questions and answers segment made me think everyone totally misread Robinson's text....I think non Blacks like those in this video, can't seem to differentiate between historical Africans from identity formations within capital. We are Africans, period! But capital creates a hierarchy of differences. Many of newly African countries were socialist and have created links of labor solidarity with Africans in America. So I think it's wrong to assume that because there are differences in socialization with racial capitalism in diasporic African people that they are somehow separate. This is why India fails to democratize between their labor caste contradictions and why Modhi is doing what he is doing to non Hindus on the sub continent. We are Black Marxists, we are really like this. Y'all should ask better questions instead of assuming matters beyond your scope of reason. Get it right.
I disagree - there is a substantial gulf between African Americans and Africans in Africa that has arisen out of history. There may be points of unity that arise from a Pan African perspective but there is no contemporary unifying thread that can over stand or dominate over the differences that have arisen over time. Not least because Pan Africanism is not an idea that sits outside of history, economic and cultural considerations. I thought the questions were excellent - how else are students going to learn if they are afraid they will not "get it right"?
@@MrSnippety what are you talking about? If Blacks and Africans were a nation there would be just as much differences within Pan Africanism just like there are different types of Venezuelans in Venezuela, Iraqis in Iraq, and Indians in India and so on and so on. So be for real when it comes to this unifying thing...singular ideological identities/ethnicities not required for Pan Africanism. Beside, you will only get it right when you take the ideas of the Cedric Robinson seriously. Something that the classroom didn't do, they projected their understanding on Robinson's work, like what you are doing. If you disagree with Cedric Robinson's work that's fine but don't assume you are the same epistemological plane as him. I can tell you haven't read his work by your rebuttal and the framing of your questions. If knew his work you would know that the only division between Africans and Africans in the diaspora is class, settler colonialism is a total racial regime. The ghettoes and the urban core slums are products of the same process, coloniality. Africa has a pan historical development just like Europe, just like anyone else. So stop trying to make excuses for why Blacks and Africans should discredit themselves out of history.
I can't wait to listen to this at work.
Ebonics is the term that was first coined back in the 1970s by Dr. Robert Williams, an African-American psychology professor in St. Louis, MO. Through further study by linguist experts, they now call it African American English.
I feel like this is a little bit of misunderstanding, but it’s not that we wanna do Our own thing… it is that we want to center the harm that’s done to the black fem disabled trans body pacifically because in that we all will gain freedom.
Thank you my friend. Please elaborate more. I would like to learn more from you in this regard. Warmest regards.
Congratulations on an excellent synopsis of this thesis. I've read the works cited and indeed I took the same things from them.
Not me shouting EBONICSSSS!!
thanku taimur ...
Poor girl didn’t know that 300 strangers would see her be late for class.
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Thank you very much. A very informative presentation. I'm also wondering if your student with glasses who was late for class passed this class. All my life I always wanted to be that relaxed and carefree person, but I couldn't achieve it.
Thank you so much for such an informative lecture about cedric.
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Poor Cedric Johnson...
Seriously though, Cedric Johnson is great. Much better than his almost namesake.
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This was a good lecture. I dislike this book intensely, anti-communism masquerading as radicalism.
The question and answer section is so cringy.
She really said pan-Africanism doesn't exist. Wtf?
41:55 is so bad too
Aristotle is not part of Western civilization????????????? What? He is perhaps the single most important figure in the history of the West.
What I meant to say is two things: 1. Plato had a bigger influence on Christianity than Aristotle. 2. Aristotle had a bigger influence on Islamic philosophy. Sorry if it came out wrong.
@@TaimurRahman-English No need to apologize. And I agree on both points, although admittedly I'm less well informed on the latter. Nevertheless, that was my understanding. I enjoy your vids, thx.
@@metrobusman thanks for your feedback. I should have said Aristotle is not "exclusively" part of Western civilisation. Next time will be more careful. Please keep your comments coming. I appreciate your feedback.
LMAO. It's like racial socialism
What is like racial socialism?
You are missing the forest for the trees.
that's not even remotely what the book is about. i read it a couple yrs ago.
it's just showing how radical black traditions connected throughout history to marxist struggles.
there's no need to dismiss it, there's no need for knee jerk reactions that just make it look like you don't wanna learn
@@kerycktotebag8164 yes, it is, but also making an important point about the limited point of view of the Western mindset that led to Marxism, and that the story is much longer and probably not entirely based in Western ideas of how history develops, specifically calling into question the materialist conception of history.
That's what European socialism.... colorblind communism to hide European racialization in Marxism. lol y'all trash and y'all at the same time need us....