Scent expert explains how to keep deer from smelling you - research on scent control products!
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Tom Brownlee, a nationally renowned canine instructor and scent expert is BACK on the show this week! We did a deep dive into the science behind scent, subjects include:
The kind of scent you leave that deer can detect for MONTHS and how to avoid it
How your scent falls off you and moves around the environment
Scent dispersion in open ground vs cover
Can water access mask your scent?
Are ozone generators useful for hunting?
How your scent clings to vegetation
Cover scents
The best way to avoid leaving ground scent that will alert deer
and MUCH more!
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Great conversation. My experience shows a deer can use their nose as a rangefinder. So I think it is important to minimize your scent signature in order to make the deer think you are farther away and less a threat, especially bow hunting when you need to get close. My bird dog also taught me he could use the scent cone to find the bird and get within feet before going on point.
I totally agree in minimizes your sent signature tricking the deer that it’s been a while since you walked by giving him more confidence to come in/keep him in the area
I have been a deer hunter for 50 years and I have often used and known others to use vanilla for years. I believe it is a cover scent and attractant
It doesn't work
My method is I dig tunnels to my stands then I climb up a tube to my box blind in a tree . This method worked in nam
Outstanding presentation by an expert. Thank you.
We are glad you enjoyed the interview.
One of the best podcasts I’ve heard. Confirms much of what I thought but gave the explanation for it, corrected a couple things I thought were true, and introduced me to a lot of new information. Nice job!
@@shoothuntride9456 we are glad you enjoyed it! Check out the first episode we did with Tom which is episode 315. Thanks for watching!
Clothing is for comfort, scent control is for us, playing the wind is for hunting 👊 - being confident in your gear is what pushes you through those high pressure moments.
Excellent statement
So the deer are more likley smelling the little debbies of my breath compared to the scent coming off my body? I'm tossing little debbies in the woods so they get use to that scent lol
Agree 100% about the wind. But I am all about smoking myself and my clothes out right before I go into the stand. I have had deer walk behind the stand down wind and still killed them. Maybe they caught a little bit of my scent? But it felt like the aroma of the smoke may have been more overwhelming.
We’ve had a guest on the show a few years ago named Travis Murray who is a big believer of smoking his clothes before each hunt. Like Tom said in the episode if it gives you confidence then keep doing it.
I had read about Native Americans doing that, so one year I gave it a shot. Smoked all my clothes around the campfire. I've never been blown by more deer in my life. I gave up all sprays, covers, and attractants. I wear rubber boots, walk the least amount I can, and that's it. Less is more.
@@TheGwt3So it works well?
Hey would be GREAT if ya'll had Chapter Markers on topics throughout the video thx for great stuff!
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I have known hunters that have used a chain saw and or a radio on tree plantation’s, as an attractant.
The deer were used to those sounds and were not bothered by them giving the hunters an opportunity to harvest a deer.
Simple, stay downwind.... has worked for centuries
Yes sir!
Very cool video
Most ppl don't know where deer bed let alone even know where they feed or travel. 😂 don't give any more simple secrets.. 😂😢😅
Come hunt the hills in Jackson County and try to stay down wind
@Im.hurtnLinda ok what state? I hunt Allegheny national forest bro.. it's all different but the same. Either u kill deer or u don't... I do it all lol haha 🤣
I’m really glad that I have completely stopped using all cover sent and sent blocking sprays. I stay up wind if at all possible and I use the zero trace technology. The fan doesn’t bother the deer at all and it seems to actually work.
This affirms what I’ve personally experienced while hunting. I’ll keep hunting down wind or off wind. Take extra time to consider where the deer are coming from(scout) and do your best to not walk where you expect them to walk. Only exception I’ve seen in the woods is a rut crazed buck not caring as much about my scent.
Learned to not waste time at a spot if I’m not confident about where my scent is going.
great show fellas. this guy really breaks it down. thats a great analogy by Jacob Sklenar! hes a smart young man.
Thanks man!
Great info. Learned a lot. Will help in the hunt. Something not talked about much.
@@Wabblewater22 we appreciate you watching this clip of the main interview with Tom Brownlee! Check out the full interview if you enjoyed this topic.
I heard years ago from some young farmers to make a small fire and smoke your self and your clothes a small amount to mask your scent. Their rational was that there are always small burns going on around the deer from farms and other small fires so the deer are used to smelling light smoke randomly throughout the year.
Jacob Sklenar has an awesome e scouting video on his channel and several boots on the ground scouting videos.Some of it even translates to southern hunting.
I am convinced that I can smoke while hunting now. Basically, there is nothing I can do to prevent deer from knowing I'm there unless I am downwind
This is a reason a electric bike is important to utilize in long walk ins
So basically we need some corn flavored chewing gum😂😂😂😂
It’s not the breath through your mouth but your breath through your nose. No way to mitigate that unless you were un-alive 😅
@@thesouthernoutdoorsmen I know, just making a funny 🤦♂️🤦♂️ must’ve not been a good one 😂😂 need corn flavored cocai…. Never mind
@@GulfCoastin😂😂😂😂 best comment yet
I always try to leave a tee-shirt or rag at my stand though out the summer seems to work opening day deer don’t pay me any attention
I read an article from the early-mid 2000's talking about this same thing. They did it down in Texas and seemed to work very well for the writer
Défense through offense
Question: Does rain help wash away scent? Either human scent brushing against vegetation or human scent while you are in the treestand or scent from broken/cut branches?
Great show and awesome guest
So I need to get a full body wet suit and a full faced respirator with a self-contained breathing apparatus? Think thatd work!?
Please don’t do that 🤣
Lord knows I need to listen this one
Is there a scientific study on the effectiveness on devices like ozonics, and or scent control clothing?
sweet lodge was to get rid off excessive water, the most obvious reason for scent trails. its easy its effective. no need to worry about finger prints oil or skin contacts, they aren’t tracking you. it works too for feral dogs or cats trying to tack you. uv sealed units work very well on clothing and boots, unless you sweat or expell excessive moisture from the mouth its hard for animals to detect you
Just wondering if chewing spruce gum would help hide your scent.
Howdy ya'll from Ohio. This was a great show!
Hey, thanks!
Anyone remember Paul Putara telling u about sunlight analysis on CalTopo… bucks bed in the blue zones bc of thermals also bc it’s cooler and they can smell better bc scent wants to pool there… so other ideas is to be downwind of where scent pools and be down wind of where his nose can be the strongest… IE compounding features has multiple air currents food or brush to smell and eat and other scents…
As informative as this is, and it is informative. It seems to just create more questions and concerns that we as smelly humans cant do anything about. Perhaps a better practice is not to worry so much and just use the wind and whatever scent eliminator you trust and, go hunt. Deer are odd animals that do things that cant be explained all the time.
I really wish you guys would have asked him about the turpentine and the likelihood of it helping
Another great episode boys.
So one of my takeaways from this video is a lot of your sent comes from your breath. My question related to that is it seems like wearing a mask would reduce some of that sent (and of course, the better the mask the less sent)
Did he mention how long after someone left a track that a dog can follow their trail. Like 1 day, 2 days, etc. ?
Did they cover rubber boots vs regular boots? Does scent killer spray work on the feet?
No need to cover it! Rubber boots are the most productive form of footwear to mitigate ur scent!
I’m wondering if the smell of campfire on your clothes can have a negative effect on hunting as well because that’s an extremely strong scent.
Depends if the deer usually smell campfires or not. I raised my boys hunting in the national forest where the ridges overlooked several well used camp fire sites. Extensively used by hikers, boy scouts, etc. We often had the place to ourselves during hunting, and of course had campfires. The boys were often within yards of deer with their muzzleloaders. They all got their first deer (bucks only) with campfire smoke as their cover scent.
If you live next to a cookie factory, after a while you get numb to that odor…can the same happen to a deer??
There was an old article where the writer tested the for years. He said it worked well on his farm in Texas. He conditioned the deer for years with sweaty work closes around his feeders. It was an interesting read.
If most is in your breath, and inevitable, can chewing gum, dip, brushing teeth, mouth wash, peppermint, coffee, ect be a better route for that sent
You smoke cigarettes while u bow hunt if you set up rite
My grandfather smoked like a chimney and shot a buck every year. I don’t suggest taking up smoking, as cancer is what got the best of him. I brush my teeth and tongue, and rinse before going into the woods
From what the guy said, the deer are gonna smell whatever you decide to try and mask your breath with plus your unique smell. Not to say that maybe it will help but that was my take.
I loved this Info. very Unformatted
Smells like a winner to me , lol great show .
@@Retroadventure8.0 thanks man! We appreciate you watching!
I have been to school!!😄
I use my own philosophy ..... if the wind is blowing from my body to the deer's nose, I'm busted.
I use bug spray and wear blue jeans, pump gas, and hunt straight after work. Good luck to everyone this upcoming season!
I wonder what he thinks about HECS suit?
Poison ivy oils bro, works every time
There was a missed explanation when talking about scented soaps, deodorant, etc. Your Scent signature is 5% made up such items, that means I.D.ing the smell as you, a single individual. He touched on all those items are aromatics, i.e. meant to smell strong and LAST for a long time not breaking down easily. So the perfumes of those items will still be an alarming smell which smell stronger, last longer and travel further in the environment than "your" other 95% of the smells coming from your signature. The least you can do as a deer hunter is not wear your cologne to the deer stand. ;)
Why haven't ya'll discussed scent lok suits?
We’ve covered them a little in this episode and in episode 315 with Tom
It helps, it's not 100%
Something that is said here that contradicts itself. Your scent will be left behind for deer to smell, just blowing down wind. But let's not worry about our scent downwind as long as we're hunting downwind of a deer.
I will say, be just as concerned about your downward scent because deer don't just walk where you want them to. Hence I will continue to do everything I do...scent control spray, scent control clothing, and scent control ozone. Never walk in the woods without gloves on (oils on your hands), and if you're scouting close to hunting season, try hunting before or during a rain.
Scent is sometimes heavier and easier to smell after a rain due to humidity
@@normalguy556 I like to go during or before to wash scent away. Never heard of rain increasing scent.
@n22186 I've heard several dog trackers talk about the increased ability in their dogs noses after a rain event.
@@normalguy556 that's interesting, I'll have to ask some bear dog owners I know. Thanks!
@@n22186 for sure! Curious to see what they say as well
IM going TO HELP HERE! EVERYTIME I HUNT AND EXODUS IS COMING TO MY HOUSE TO DO A VIDEO. I eat an apple 🍎 when i sit down. It scent stays in your mouth and the enzymes in your stomach make deer not notice. Washing clothes and hanging and hunting high, and eating an apple i dont ever ever get busted anymore!!!
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Use dryed milkweed and stay downwind
Watched your video where you missed that big boy and both of you ended up killing good ol nice uns. What calibers do you boys like?
You asked the wrong question on smoking per Travis. Travis didn’t say he smoked himself as a cover scent. He said he smokes himself to kill the bacteria off his skin.
people over consume water, they sweet alot even in cold weather, excessive amounts of water is sweat. i dont consume much water so, i dont sweat. animals come to me to get a smell. i always though i smelt good, its never been that most people sweat so they can smell them from long distances
"i trained dogs, so i know how to keep deer from smelling you"
lol ok
smoking a left handed cigarette too and from your spot in addition to wearing cover scents on your boot will help you out. That being said, a deer will remember the smell of you if you happen to make contact with him and not kill them or if they are grouped up.
Would like to listen to the original conversation with Brownlee (Episode 315). Can't find it on the RUclips Channel. Anyone have a link? Thanks!
It came out before we started doing the video podcast. It’s available on Spotify, apple podcast and iheart radio
So since we now know you can jam a dogs nose with bleach etc do we think there may be any credibility to the nose jammer spray for deer? I always discounted the idea before. just curious about others thoughts on it now
I have a question how to hunt my property. I have been hunting an 18,000 acre private property called ames plantation and I have hunted it for two years and have not been seeing the amount of deer I wanted. The whole place is all mainly flatland and the deer dont seem to want really go out to ag fields, could you give me any tips on how to find a bigger density of deer there? Thank you
Have you been in the woods around the field edges?
Look for choke points, places where deer HAVE to walk through.
Surprising what he said about ScentLok clothing when you have John Eberhart swearing about using it religiously.
Very interesting and educational. Many years ago, I decided to prove to myself that scent control would not work. I wanted it to be an accurate test, so I went all in and what I did and still do is extremely time consuming and expensive. I was and continue to be shocked by my experience. I repeatedly have mature bucks and does come in downwind of me calm as can be. I also have them come in on the same path I use calm as can be. I believe that I am practicing a100% scent control system that is resulting in tolerable scent. Deer smell humans all the time where I hunt whitetails in 5 different states. I think they can accept a certain amount of tolerable scent as being safe and normal. I did try an ozone unit and it spooked every deer that got within 25 yards of the unit as they would lock up and stare directly at the unit and then run away. I don't know if they were bothered by the fan noise or hum or by the ozone smell. I don't believe any system will be 100% scent free but my experience has proven to me it can be 100% tolerable.
What is your method?
@@ChristopherWorkman-b7t It would take a research size report to explain everything I do. But the quick version is I was all my hunting clothes, any washable hunting gear in sport wash. But before I was that stuff I wash clothes I never wear in sport wash to cleanse the washer. Before I put in the sport wash i spray the inside of the washer with scent away spray. I also spray the inside of the dryer with scent away spray. I do this with every load. I store all my clothes and washable gear in scent lock totes with scent lock carbon sheets. My climbing tree stand is scented up with evercalm and stored in a zippered duffle bag at all times. My bow and quiver are descented with scent away wipes and stored in a bow case with acorn wafers that is sealed tight. My arrows that are not in the quiver on my bow in the bow case are stored in lockable arrow boxes with acorn and pine wafers. The inside of my truck cab is completely wiped down with scent away wipes and sprayed down with scent away spray and the bed of my truck and the cap are sprayed down with scent away spray. I keep acorn wafers hanging in the cab of my truck and rotate them in and out every two weeks just like my bow case. I spray in the inside of my rubber hunting boots and the boot dryer with scent away spray and carry them in those giant ziplock storage bags. I spray down the entire outside surface of my rubber boots before I put them on outside the truck. I put my hunting clothes on outside the truck when I get to my hunting destination. My driving clothes are washed in sport wash. My socks, under wear, thin layer of layer pants and shirts are washed in sport wash and stored in scent lock totes. I wear the travel pants and shirt over the layer pants and shirts. The layer pants and shirts and socks and underwear only get worn once and then are washed again. All my other gear, monocular, calls, knives, safety harness etc. are descented with scent away wipes and stored in scent lock toes with my hunting clothes. I carry scent away wipes in my pockets and wipe down any part of me that got warm and or sweaty once I'm sitting down on the tree stand. My hunting clothes are scent lock clothes. Before I leave he truck I rinse my mouth out with mouth wash. This is the jest. The key is everything you take to the tree has to be descented. I descent my safety harness and related tree and lifeline ropes in a scentlock tote with a small Oxone type unit. Good luck.
I've used boiled apple juice and had deer follow my trail to stand
Y’all need to adjust the mic sensitivity. Listening to the sounds of tongues moving, breathing & every other mouth sound is extremely distracting & irritating.
Hunt high..
do you get high before the hunt, or do you get high while you hunt?
@user-iq8um6mp4o 🤣🤣🤣 You know what I mean smart a$$
That was i
So any thoughts on the gentleman who hunted feed trees with turpentine?
Different consept
For the loved of the good lord do not point an ozone generator towards your breathable air
U can’t beat a deers nose period! This isn’t even up for debate!
youtube streaming sucks, move to rumble atleast it doesnt make you disappear and need costant refreshing to bring the footage back
We haven't heard of any issues like that before. Thank you for watching!
Smoking a little herb is the best scent control ever..guaranteed
Be an interesting conversation between him and John Eiberhart.
That conversation wouldn’t go well 😂
I have a property that nobody can help me with
Can the deer hear your lip smacking?
All I heard was the cough drop in his mouth, driving me crazy lol
Down wind is all you can do. Scent killer is a scam
Doe pee flavored gum it is....or maybe an organic mouthwash version
That won’t help all the scent you are putting out though breathing through your nose. Most people think it’s your breathe through your mouth but Tom explains it’s the scent coming out when you breathe through your nose that’s the issue.
@thesouthernoutdoorsmen I was completely being sarcastic....organic doe pee mouthwash? Come on now lol
Do a good job scouting and learn the deer travel paths. If you don't have the wind in your favor pick a different stand to hunt that day. Easier said than done but it's that simple. Everything else is BS and a gimick to sell products.
This comment sums it up. Get down, wind period. There is no other option. No gadgets, no sprays, no clothes that can change that. If the winds are not right stay in the truck or go home
Wind in your face sun at your back.
Learn what thermals are and how they work. Super important but is never mentioned in 99% of videos like these.
Master the Thermals, Master the Bucks with Shane Parker - EP 516
ruclips.net/video/7q3jvCno52w/видео.html
We’ve talked about thermals a lot on the show. Here is a great episode you may enjoy.
This guy talks so sloooow I'm having a hard time following his point.
I couldn’t hardly watch this video without an ad interrupting every 2-3 minutes. Not exaggerating.
Was not impressed, learned nothing.
Thanks for Watching!
I haven't finished watching this, but I know the secret weapon of elimination of human scent. I have had deer walk up to me, because they only smell the apple I rub on my cloths
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@@MintyHeals
You will never make me talk! I got an 8 point and 9 point at 8 yards two years ago, and the biggest buck I ever got walked up to about 2 yards of me. I shot him with a Hoyt Easton Pro Hunter at 15 yards
So far listening this Does not get to the real meat of sent elimination and or neutralizing effects and didn't cover what dog evidence. I've looked into this quite a bit deeper and a few things weren't addressed. The things I've looked into is how and how much the olfactory system works and at the level i found out Minas all the formality talk that for the most part doesn't matter at all with a good understanding of sent elimination. I appreciate the guys data gathering but it just doesn't address the primal ability of the olfactory that animals have.
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