Best scent year I ever had was the year they took down miles of planted pines from the 20-30’s. They left a huge pile of fresh pine wood chips at the stump of every tree. These were not saw dust but larger chips from the machine that cut the trees. I purchased a new garbage can and filled it half full of the fresh chips. Every evening my boots and hunting clothes would be stored in the can. It was a remarkable difference that season.👍🏻
I take spruce bows and boil/simmer them in down brook water until it gets a bit colored.then put it in a sterile spray bottle.it would control some of the scent but not all.good for clean boots tho as a precaution
@miked8227 Mike If you're old enough to remember the 2 Hunter Friends who made Hunting videos from the end of the 70s & 80s on VHS 📼 tapes. Then on CD's videos into the early 1990s called Knight & Hale? Harold Knight & David Hale they hunted mostly Whitetail Deer, Turkey & maybe an occasional Elk or Mule Deer. But mostly Whitetail Deer🦌& Turkey 🦃 is what they focused on. They was Big at the same Time Bill Jordan of Realtree was. The only Big Hunters to watch hunting videos of back then was Knight & Hale, Bill Jordan, Jim Shockey and Fred Bear is the ones I remember. But Knight and Hale developed one of the first Grunt calls that was a Grunt/ Snort wheeze combination. Also a Doe Bleat call , & A Doe and fawn bleat Can call & I bought every call they made. But by golly they still work great, still got them to this day & use them all when hunting in different scenarios. They still sell their calls and inventions to this day in Big sporting goods stores. They're old men now but Knight & Hale are the first hunters to also capture a buck making a clicking sound on film 🎥 and they perfected it & developed a Buck clicking call. They also developed the 1st hunting mask 🎭 that's a cold air exchanger. I bought one and still use it it's a game changer in cold weather I've had it since late 80s or early 90s. The mask has copper coils in it or a cold air exchanger as it's called that when you suck in cold air into your mouth from the outdoors those cooper coils heats up the air you're breathing in. So the air you're taking into your lungs is warm to keep your body from having to heat up the cold air you're breathing in. So therefore that helps keeps you Warmer during cold 🥶❄️ hunting. Also as you were taking about the wood 🪵 chips they developed a foot locker type box almost like a cedar chest someone would have in their house at the end the bed for blankets and quilts. The best I can remember This Box they developed had an electric blower motor that circulated air. The footlocker type box is for Puting your hunting clothes, coats caps🧢, boots 🥾🥾, Gloves 🧤, Beanie's/tobaggons, underwear, backpack 🎒 even your rifle strap or anything that'll be on your person while hunting you put in the box for covering up any human Odor. They sold wood 🪵 chips such as Cedar, Pine and other tree 🌲 wood chips that would be present in your hunting area for you to use in this box. The air circulator blew the smell of those wood chips all thru your clothes and hunting gear. All this is before Scent loc and Scent Blocker clothing came out. I own some of both, but as you stated you done where they ground up the trees where you hunted and you put clothes in bags with the chips..... There's nothing in the world better for a Hunting cover scent than the smell of a tree 🌲in that area. Because deer know that scent and it'll be friendly to them and cover your scent. In the late 70s early 80s Before all this scent control sprays for clothing, shampoo's 🧴 and earth scented dryer sheets etc. Before the cover scent technology came out I used to bathe in Baking soda washed my clothes in baking soda and hung dry them on the Clothes line. Then I kept my clothes in black garbage bags with fresh limb clippings from a cedar tree 🌲 or pine tree 🌲. Or if I was hunting in a oak Grove I gathered acorns and sliced, diced then & threw a bunch in the bag & closed it up with my clothes & shook the bag around real good & let it sit a few days before I was ready to go hunt. So like you many of us was using homemade scent control for many years before this new technology of carbon scent control sewn into the clothing. I still put my Scent Loc & Scent Blocker clothing & My gear in black garbage bags. @miked8227 I enjoyed your story, Hope you have a Merry Christmas 🎄✝️ and harvest the biggest buck 🦌 of your life over the Christmas Holiday. 👍🏼😁👍🏼
Imagine being the big buck that guy knocks down "I did everything right, I sniffed and sniffed but my life is over, the light, I see the light, goodbye cruel world."
Great conversation. My experience shows a deer can use their nose as a rangefinder. So I think it is important to minimize your scent signature in order to make the deer think you are farther away and less a threat, especially bow hunting when you need to get close. My bird dog also taught me he could use the scent cone to find the bird and get within feet before going on point.
I totally agree in minimizes your sent signature tricking the deer that it’s been a while since you walked by giving him more confidence to come in/keep him in the area
Oct 4 I used a chainsaw and weed whip to blaze a trail into a very heavily wooded and overgrown area for access to a hard to reach hunting area...the trail I blazed was 350+ yds long..deer trails going in every direction crossing my blazed trail..within a day or so the deer tracks obliterated my boot tracks..they use the trail I made every day and night..walk the trail and come back the next day and you can hardly identify your boot tracks..I raked the trail clean of all debris for quiet travel..they seem to love my trail.
Yeah @mich, I did almost the same by cutting five foot tall horsetail weeds making a winding trail about 200 yards long. Went back to do some more work the next day and met a doe coming toward me at 20 yards. Next few days you could see many tracks in the new cut trail.
I knew a guy that did a lot of scouting all year long he would go at least once a week and all ways left his t shirt behind on a branch when he was done said he did it so the deer would get use to his smell that guy did great ever season
I'm a firm believer in leaving your scent and getting the deer use to it. My daughter my buddy and I hunt my land outback if my place. I'm in the woods 1-2 times a week even if it's just going for a walk. My kid and my buddy only go during season. I usually tag out every season and have deer walk by my stand all the time. They very barely see many. I'm a smoker on top of that and all 3 of my biggest bucks 2 big 8's and a nice 10 I was smoking while they came in and had to put my cigarette down to stick them with a arrow. I'm also a marine technician and hunting season is our major season for winterizing and doing oil and gear lube change. So I definitely have a funky smell to me but by time I get home from work I only have 1.5hr to hunt so no time to wash up. But again the deer around my place are use to that scent. I'm sure if either one of them would listen to me when I say they need to spend more time throughout the year they would be just as successful as I am. Again I tag out 3/4 deer a year since I started doing this 8 years ago.
Clothing is for comfort, scent control is for us, playing the wind is for hunting 👊 - being confident in your gear is what pushes you through those high pressure moments.
One of the best podcasts I’ve heard. Confirms much of what I thought but gave the explanation for it, corrected a couple things I thought were true, and introduced me to a lot of new information. Nice job!
I’ve been watching a few of your videos for the last week and decided to subscribe today. My take away from your video today is now that I’ve hunted the same place for several years and seem to be more successful each year. It just makes sense that as I spend more time there especially this year that the deer are just getting used to me being around.
We are glad to see you subscribe and that you're enjoying the show! Time in the woods is so important to be successful so it's good to hear you've been doing that. Best of luck to you this season!
I have not used vanilla but have used Nose Jammer that has a vanilla smell. I shower before hunting, sometimes hang red cedar in my clothes closet. I cannot say I have never been busted but it is rare. I had an 11 point buck two years ago that was beneath my stand for more than ten minutes.
My main problem with staying downwind is I don’t know which way the deer will come from so many times I think I’m downwind but the deer are actually upwind
I stumbled onto you guys a little while ago with the Deer Vision segment. I was absolutely blown away. Can't wait to get all the way through this one. I was a GA hunter for my 10 years down there from '05-'15. Had a nice club in Greenville, GA. Good times. Nobody knows tough hunting till they try it in the SE US! Another fascinating podcast. Now that I'm hooked only 598ish to go!!
I was hoping y'all were gonna talk about the Zero Trace from Wildlife Innovations. I learned a lot of good stuff about scent and the way deer use their noses. Thanks for the video guys.
I have known hunters that have used a chain saw and or a radio on tree plantation’s, as an attractant. The deer were used to those sounds and were not bothered by them giving the hunters an opportunity to harvest a deer.
Super interesting! I've always been into kayak fishing, this was my 1st year deer hunting/ hunting in general. Not much can keep me off the water , even through winter but I have enjoyed it so far. Have a lot to learn! I got lucky my 1st deer/ buck was a nice 10 point here in SC
I’m really glad that I have completely stopped using all cover sent and sent blocking sprays. I stay up wind if at all possible and I use the zero trace technology. The fan doesn’t bother the deer at all and it seems to actually work.
Almost Every big buck and big boar iv shot iv been smoking on a ol fish wistle in a GRAPE cigar , but i also think hunting when your scent is rising due to thermals is more important than wind direction the wind is constantly changing directions then theres the rut and then there only concerned with one smell !
Question: Does rain help wash away scent? Either human scent brushing against vegetation or human scent while you are in the treestand or scent from broken/cut branches?
Jacob Sklenar has an awesome e scouting video on his channel and several boots on the ground scouting videos.Some of it even translates to southern hunting.
This affirms what I’ve personally experienced while hunting. I’ll keep hunting down wind or off wind. Take extra time to consider where the deer are coming from(scout) and do your best to not walk where you expect them to walk. Only exception I’ve seen in the woods is a rut crazed buck not caring as much about my scent. Learned to not waste time at a spot if I’m not confident about where my scent is going.
So the deer are more likley smelling the little debbies of my breath compared to the scent coming off my body? I'm tossing little debbies in the woods so they get use to that scent lol
@@MurkFlurFlinlol I’ll take a a couple puffs off a cigar while I’m still in the truck that cigar generally lasts me all season. But I noticed the same after I quit smoking. Tried the cigar trick and they started walking back up on me.
I heard years ago from some young farmers to make a small fire and smoke your self and your clothes a small amount to mask your scent. Their rational was that there are always small burns going on around the deer from farms and other small fires so the deer are used to smelling light smoke randomly throughout the year.
Ok, I went with smoke to cover! Doe down wind 25 yrds. She came across nose to the ground and not over my track stopped dead in her tracks and throwed nose up in the air. I smoked all my gear as well as myself. She lightly stomped continued smelling and testing the air. She backed up and continued to smell looking dead at us. She knew where the scent was coming from. Finally after testing and retesting the air for what seemed like 5 minutes she turned and walked off the way she was headed and not back the way she came. We were approximately 20 feet in a double ladder stand. Two of us and both smoked down. Now, what did she smell? Smoke is what I think alerted her. I think she was wondering what was on fire, in a tree. I can’t say it will work for the next deer but I will continue to smoke up per that experience. Thks
I'm not sure trimming lanes has much of an effect, if any. Sure it releases scent but does it deter the deer? I'm not convinced. I was trimming a couple days ago on my property. I was out there for several hours doing heavy trimming. Different evergreens, maple branches, various other brush. Deer came through that evening about 30 minutes before dark, just like any other day. I got an 8 point on the camera lingering in the pines where I was just a few hours prior. I don't see how it's any different from a tree breaking in heavy winds or after heavy snow. The pines are always dropping needles, weaping sap, dropping branches. There is farming (corn fields) and a small livestock hobby farm in the surrounding area so the deer here are acclimated to human presence. That's gonna different from being deep in the woods.
Agree 100% about the wind. But I am all about smoking myself and my clothes out right before I go into the stand. I have had deer walk behind the stand down wind and still killed them. Maybe they caught a little bit of my scent? But it felt like the aroma of the smoke may have been more overwhelming.
We’ve had a guest on the show a few years ago named Travis Murray who is a big believer of smoking his clothes before each hunt. Like Tom said in the episode if it gives you confidence then keep doing it.
I had read about Native Americans doing that, so one year I gave it a shot. Smoked all my clothes around the campfire. I've never been blown by more deer in my life. I gave up all sprays, covers, and attractants. I wear rubber boots, walk the least amount I can, and that's it. Less is more.
@@Patrician9000no, he said every single deer winded up. Which they would. Why the hell would a deer not pinpoint you in a tree when you smell like fucking fire. Dumbest shit ever
This is sooo good. I took notes throughout and keep them to renew the knowledge each year. One question. I heard that deer, if they cross a path where you walked, can know in which direction you were walking. Could that be possible... Are there any knowledge that we know of dogs that could confirm this as being possible^ Thank you. Superb!
He addressed that subject briefly in the podcast. Essentially the dog (and presumably also a buck tracking a hot doe, etc.) processes the olfactory information to such an incredible degree that it can determine the freshness of a single track (or footprint if you will), in relation to the very next one on a trail, and thus can almost instantly determine the subject's direction of travel, even though there are only a few milliseconds' difference in the "age" of each footprint. It stands to reason; how else could a dog cut a track and invariably follow it in the right direction with only a couple sniffs in each direction if not by being able to compare relative freshness? It's really an astonishing natural ability when you think about it, isn't it?
@@jeanmorin3247 You're very welcome! I'm a lifelong hunter, and over the years I have observed deer demonstrate their olfactory abilities in ways that seem almost supernatural. One of my most memorable and eye-opening incidents occurred way back when I was still beginning teenage hunter, scouting out a new-to-me farm. I was slowly walking on a high ridge and watched a small group of does came out of the woods into an alfalfa hayfield in a valley far below to feed late in the afternoon. They were calm and undisturbed, so I decided just to watch them with my binoculars as long as I could. After a few minutes a front moved in, the temperature dropped noticeably and the cold breeze shifted from crosswise, to blowing straight toward the deer in relation to my position. I noted the falling leaves and milkweed fluff , and mentally made my best estimate for about how many minutes it would take the wind to carry them that far if they didn't fall to the ground first. Right on cue, they all snapped their heads up and looked up toward the ridge and me. The bigger does stomped and probably snorted although I was too far away to hear it. Then they all took off to cover, tails waving. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that my scent was what spooked them when the wind shifted and carried it to them. I paced off the distance the next day at something well over 900 yards, or about HALF A MILE.
I'm wondering if using a climber and tearing into the tree puts deer on alert? With the way he was talking about branches being broke or cut puts deer on alert it is very possible there's a bunch of odor from where the teeth dig into a tree disturbing the bark.
There is a chance for sure but also that's a normal scent in the area. Check out episode 510 with Rick Cope. He uses something to smell like heavy pine scent for cover scent and has had excellent success with it for nearly 40 years.
smoking a left handed cigarette too and from your spot in addition to wearing cover scents on your boot will help you out. That being said, a deer will remember the smell of you if you happen to make contact with him and not kill them or if they are grouped up.
I use walnuts, throw a few in a bucket. Mix them around some and let them sit for a couple of days. Put it in a spray bottle, and I spray my outer layer before I head into the woods. I've had many deer come in down wind of me and have pictures of me walking past a trail cam as I was leavin, and 40 mins later 2 different bucks were in front o the camera. One of them took the same path I had just walked and the other came in downwind of where I had been sitting.
I heard of a family that collected cow piss while milking before hunting. They dipped their boot bottoms in it and splashed urine around the walk to their stand, then splashed a bit around near the blind. Deer are not scared of cows and bucks will sometimes follow the urine scent
So I wonder what the real info on these new scent control blenders that you put material in, chop up and make scent covers with if damaged plants release specific vocs. Are you walking around smelling like an injured cedar tree? I made some. Not with that apparatus but seems to work exceptionally well. Have had a few walk right under me.
sweet lodge was to get rid off excessive water, the most obvious reason for scent trails. its easy its effective. no need to worry about finger prints oil or skin contacts, they aren’t tracking you. it works too for feral dogs or cats trying to tack you. uv sealed units work very well on clothing and boots, unless you sweat or expell excessive moisture from the mouth its hard for animals to detect you
Depends if the deer usually smell campfires or not. I raised my boys hunting in the national forest where the ridges overlooked several well used camp fire sites. Extensively used by hikers, boy scouts, etc. We often had the place to ourselves during hunting, and of course had campfires. The boys were often within yards of deer with their muzzleloaders. They all got their first deer (bucks only) with campfire smoke as their cover scent.
Years ago there was a skunk scent on the market that was two part. It didn’t smell until they were together. I hung cotton balls a put some downwind from me and it worked like a charm. Can’t find it anymore. Bought what they say is the real stuff but it doesn’t smell like that stuff and doesn’t work nearly as well. 😑
Anyone remember Paul Putara telling u about sunlight analysis on CalTopo… bucks bed in the blue zones bc of thermals also bc it’s cooler and they can smell better bc scent wants to pool there… so other ideas is to be downwind of where scent pools and be down wind of where his nose can be the strongest… IE compounding features has multiple air currents food or brush to smell and eat and other scents…
Didn't scent Lok WIN their lawsuit with the findings stating that human scent was reduced 96-99%? Also, I can smell a cake a mile away. I can also smell the individual ingredients in the cake. lemon, almond, sugar, butter, cream cheese, eggs, baking powder, etc. I'm guessing that we don't have cake receptors in our noses. Surely our brains bond the individual odors together into what we learn to recognize as cake. Deer must work the same way. Smoke and human scent are combined in the brain to create a unique odor. Deer are probably very good at also detecting the individual odor components. This has to be explained in a similar way to how humans perceive the color spectrum. We have 3 primary receptors and can see seemingly infinite range of colors in the visible spectrum. All colors that we can see are the result of the 3 primary colors being biased by our brains based on the density of each color frequency present. With any given color humans learn to identify the individual blue, red or green colors that are present. It seems that smell would work the same. The molecules do not need to bond to mask a smell, our brains will bias the odors based on the ratios of the individual scents that are present. A cake is not a single odor. It is a mixture of odors that our brains recognize as cake. A minimally trained brain can easily detect the individual ingredients. If a deer has not experienced smoke and human odors together, it might not easily recognize the individual odors without some effort. But once they make the connection, it's game over. Maybe I'll start bringing cake into the stand. LOL What beast on this earth runs from cake.
I use my own philosophy ..... if the wind is blowing from my body to the deer's nose, I'm busted. I use bug spray and wear blue jeans, pump gas, and hunt straight after work. Good luck to everyone this upcoming season!
As informative as this is, and it is informative. It seems to just create more questions and concerns that we as smelly humans cant do anything about. Perhaps a better practice is not to worry so much and just use the wind and whatever scent eliminator you trust and, go hunt. Deer are odd animals that do things that cant be explained all the time.
I'm 62, and I've hunted deer 50 yrs. The ? about rubber boots is funny to me. Pick ANY piece of rubber up and smell it. U can actually smell a rubber boot from FEET away with ur minimum scent ability compared to a deer. Rubber boots don't grow on grass, or trees. A deer can smell a rubber boot from very long distances. Therefore, rubber scent on the ground is like a neon sign to a deer. Rubber boots only keep ur foot scent off the ground, and the rubber scent is far stronger than ur foot scent.
Rubber boots that you've had a good while will leave very little smell. Walk through a cow pie and go on wherever you're going. That won't scare them..... lol
True, rubber boots don't grow on grass but millions of rubber tires get ground up to molecules by normal use on every road in the nation. Deer cross roads every day. Not to mention tractor tires on ag fields and skidder tires in managed forests. There is nothing unfamiliar nor foreign to a deer about the scent of rubber boots.
@Im.hurtnLinda ok what state? I hunt Allegheny national forest bro.. it's all different but the same. Either u kill deer or u don't... I do it all lol haha 🤣
So one of my takeaways from this video is a lot of your sent comes from your breath. My question related to that is it seems like wearing a mask would reduce some of that sent (and of course, the better the mask the less sent)
In December I was hunting a swamp on a split deer trail place my knit hat in a brush pile sat in a new muskrat like blind on second trail .Deer took first trail went into the brush pile and just stomped around and snorted then after 5 minutes of that just walked away.lol
I have a question how to hunt my property. I have been hunting an 18,000 acre private property called ames plantation and I have hunted it for two years and have not been seeing the amount of deer I wanted. The whole place is all mainly flatland and the deer dont seem to want really go out to ag fields, could you give me any tips on how to find a bigger density of deer there? Thank you
My grandfather smoked like a chimney and shot a buck every year. I don’t suggest taking up smoking, as cancer is what got the best of him. I brush my teeth and tongue, and rinse before going into the woods
From what the guy said, the deer are gonna smell whatever you decide to try and mask your breath with plus your unique smell. Not to say that maybe it will help but that was my take.
They said the deer would smell your breath and those other compounds. I'm not wondering and surprised it wasn't mentioned, but what about breathing out through an activated charcoal respirator? They trap VOCs.
Im no expert but I go in to a stand wearing minimal clothing so I dont sweat and use sent eliminator (I use Dead Downwind) at the truck and also put a few drops of doe pee on my boots and all I can smell is doe pee when I get to my stand. This has been working for me for years now. In fact, I got out of the stand tonight and had to take a dump bad! and I was about 40-50 yards from my stand when I did my business and the wind was swirling and all I did after, once I was back in my stand was put another drop of doe pee on my boots and less than 20-30 minutes a doe walked right into my range and acted like nothing was wrong.
There was an old article where the writer tested the for years. He said it worked well on his farm in Texas. He conditioned the deer for years with sweaty work closes around his feeders. It was an interesting read.
What I've seen is that if they smell you you are 100% busted. But sight and especially sound often take some degree of "verification" for them to make up their mind. If they see and hear you, you are 100% busted. If they see you and you move even a little.... 100% busted. If they hear you but you are out of sight and smell, you can often cover some noise by grunting, or scraping the ground, or by making squirrel or turkey noises. Just my observations, but it seems to align with the data presented here.
I’ve heard how long a deers nose can affect how good they smell. A deer with a longer nose has more receptors and smells better than a deer with a shorter nose.
Something that is said here that contradicts itself. Your scent will be left behind for deer to smell, just blowing down wind. But let's not worry about our scent downwind as long as we're hunting downwind of a deer. I will say, be just as concerned about your downward scent because deer don't just walk where you want them to. Hence I will continue to do everything I do...scent control spray, scent control clothing, and scent control ozone. Never walk in the woods without gloves on (oils on your hands), and if you're scouting close to hunting season, try hunting before or during a rain.
There was a missed explanation when talking about scented soaps, deodorant, etc. Your Scent signature is 5% made up such items, that means I.D.ing the smell as you, a single individual. He touched on all those items are aromatics, i.e. meant to smell strong and LAST for a long time not breaking down easily. So the perfumes of those items will still be an alarming smell which smell stronger, last longer and travel further in the environment than "your" other 95% of the smells coming from your signature. The least you can do as a deer hunter is not wear your cologne to the deer stand. ;)
Best scent year I ever had was the year they took down miles of planted pines from the 20-30’s. They left a huge pile of fresh pine wood chips at the stump of every tree. These were not saw dust but larger chips from the machine that cut the trees. I purchased a new garbage can and filled it half full of the fresh chips. Every evening my boots and hunting clothes would be stored in the can. It was a remarkable difference that season.👍🏻
Great idea, thanks for sharing!
I take spruce bows and boil/simmer them in down brook water until it gets a bit colored.then put it in a sterile spray bottle.it would control some of the scent but not all.good for clean boots tho as a precaution
@miked8227 Mike If you're old enough to remember the 2 Hunter Friends who made Hunting videos from the end of the 70s & 80s on VHS 📼 tapes. Then on CD's videos into the early 1990s called Knight & Hale? Harold Knight & David Hale they hunted mostly Whitetail Deer, Turkey & maybe an occasional Elk or Mule Deer. But mostly Whitetail Deer🦌& Turkey 🦃 is what they focused on. They was Big at the same Time Bill Jordan of Realtree was. The only Big Hunters to watch hunting videos of back then was Knight & Hale, Bill Jordan, Jim Shockey and Fred Bear is the ones I remember. But Knight and Hale developed one of the first Grunt calls that was a Grunt/ Snort wheeze combination. Also a Doe Bleat call , & A Doe and fawn bleat Can call & I bought every call they made. But by golly they still work great, still got them to this day & use them all when hunting in different scenarios. They still sell their calls and inventions to this day in Big sporting goods stores. They're old men now but Knight & Hale are the first hunters to also capture a buck making a clicking sound on film 🎥 and they perfected it & developed a Buck clicking call. They also developed the 1st hunting mask 🎭 that's a cold air exchanger. I bought one and still use it it's a game changer in cold weather I've had it since late 80s or early 90s. The mask has copper coils in it or a cold air exchanger as it's called that when you suck in cold air into your mouth from the outdoors those cooper coils heats up the air you're breathing in. So the air you're taking into your lungs is warm to keep your body from having to heat up the cold air you're breathing in. So therefore that helps keeps you Warmer during cold 🥶❄️ hunting. Also as you were taking about the wood 🪵 chips they developed a foot locker type box almost like a cedar chest someone would have in their house at the end the bed for blankets and quilts. The best I can remember This Box they developed had an electric blower motor that circulated air. The footlocker type box is for Puting your hunting clothes, coats caps🧢, boots
🥾🥾, Gloves 🧤, Beanie's/tobaggons, underwear, backpack 🎒 even your rifle strap or anything that'll be on your person while hunting you put in the box for covering up any human Odor.
They sold wood 🪵 chips such as Cedar, Pine and other tree 🌲 wood chips that would be present in your hunting area for you to use in this box. The air circulator blew the smell of those wood chips all thru your clothes and hunting gear. All this is before Scent loc and Scent Blocker clothing came out. I own some of both, but as you stated you done where they ground up the trees where you hunted and you put clothes in bags with the chips..... There's nothing in the world better for a Hunting cover scent than the smell of a tree 🌲in that area. Because deer know that scent and it'll be friendly to them and cover your scent. In the late 70s early 80s Before all this scent control sprays for clothing, shampoo's 🧴 and earth scented dryer sheets etc. Before the cover scent technology came out I used to bathe in Baking soda washed my clothes in baking soda and hung dry them on the Clothes line. Then I kept my clothes in black garbage bags with fresh limb clippings from a cedar tree 🌲 or pine tree 🌲. Or if I was hunting in a oak Grove I gathered acorns and sliced, diced then & threw a bunch in the bag & closed it up with my clothes & shook the bag around real good & let it sit a few days before I was ready to go hunt. So like you many of us was using homemade scent control for many years before this new technology of carbon scent control sewn into the clothing. I still put my Scent Loc & Scent Blocker clothing & My gear in black garbage bags.
@miked8227 I enjoyed your story,
Hope you have a Merry Christmas 🎄✝️ and harvest the biggest buck 🦌 of your life over the Christmas Holiday. 👍🏼😁👍🏼
My method is I dig tunnels to my stands then I climb up a tube to my box blind in a tree . This method worked in nam
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@@Yeagerbomb27 one guy actually did this. Don higgins consulted on his farm. Guy buried a big plastic pipe that went to his box blind.
Imagine being the big buck that guy knocks down "I did everything right, I sniffed and sniffed but my life is over, the light, I see the light, goodbye cruel world."
And if you add a vacuum on the other end…. You can suck your evening thermals away
Great conversation. My experience shows a deer can use their nose as a rangefinder. So I think it is important to minimize your scent signature in order to make the deer think you are farther away and less a threat, especially bow hunting when you need to get close. My bird dog also taught me he could use the scent cone to find the bird and get within feet before going on point.
I totally agree in minimizes your sent signature tricking the deer that it’s been a while since you walked by giving him more confidence to come in/keep him in the area
Oct 4 I used a chainsaw and weed whip to blaze a trail into a very heavily wooded and overgrown area for access to a hard to reach hunting area...the trail I blazed was 350+ yds long..deer trails going in every direction crossing my blazed trail..within a day or so the deer tracks obliterated my boot tracks..they use the trail I made every day and night..walk the trail and come back the next day and you can hardly identify your boot tracks..I raked the trail clean of all debris for quiet travel..they seem to love my trail.
Yeah @mich, I did almost the same by cutting five foot tall horsetail weeds making a winding trail about 200 yards long. Went back to do some more work the next day and met a doe coming toward me at 20 yards. Next few days you could see many tracks in the new cut trail.
Every time they use your cut trail . Every time I guess you can call it a man made funnel
Did you make the path straight as possible or did you make curves or zigzags?
I knew a guy that did a lot of scouting all year long he would go at least once a week and all ways left his t shirt behind on a branch when he was done said he did it so the deer would get use to his smell that guy did great ever season
Dude I have been thinking about doing this exact strategy for a few years now it only makes sense.
I'm a firm believer in leaving your scent and getting the deer use to it. My daughter my buddy and I hunt my land outback if my place. I'm in the woods 1-2 times a week even if it's just going for a walk. My kid and my buddy only go during season. I usually tag out every season and have deer walk by my stand all the time. They very barely see many. I'm a smoker on top of that and all 3 of my biggest bucks 2 big 8's and a nice 10 I was smoking while they came in and had to put my cigarette down to stick them with a arrow. I'm also a marine technician and hunting season is our major season for winterizing and doing oil and gear lube change. So I definitely have a funky smell to me but by time I get home from work I only have 1.5hr to hunt so no time to wash up. But again the deer around my place are use to that scent. I'm sure if either one of them would listen to me when I say they need to spend more time throughout the year they would be just as successful as I am. Again I tag out 3/4 deer a year since I started doing this 8 years ago.
Genius, hes making them noseblind.
Clothing is for comfort, scent control is for us, playing the wind is for hunting 👊 - being confident in your gear is what pushes you through those high pressure moments.
Excellent statement
One of the best podcasts I’ve heard. Confirms much of what I thought but gave the explanation for it, corrected a couple things I thought were true, and introduced me to a lot of new information. Nice job!
@@shoothuntride9456 we are glad you enjoyed it! Check out the first episode we did with Tom which is episode 315. Thanks for watching!
Hey would be GREAT if ya'll had Chapter Markers on topics throughout the video thx for great stuff!
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I’ve been watching a few of your videos for the last week and decided to subscribe today. My take away from your video today is now that I’ve hunted the same place for several years and seem to be more successful each year. It just makes sense that as I spend more time there especially this year that the deer are just getting used to me being around.
We are glad to see you subscribe and that you're enjoying the show! Time in the woods is so important to be successful so it's good to hear you've been doing that. Best of luck to you this season!
I have been a deer hunter for 50 years and I have often used and known others to use vanilla for years. I believe it is a cover scent and attractant
It doesn't work
I have not used vanilla but have used Nose Jammer that has a vanilla smell. I shower before hunting, sometimes hang red cedar in my clothes closet. I cannot say I have never been busted but it is rare. I had an 11 point buck two years ago that was beneath my stand for more than ten minutes.
What kind of results have you gotten with vanilla?
Gonna have to watch this multiple times. So much info it's worth hearing ut again. Thnx
We’re glad you enjoyed it!
Lots of information and lots to retain
My main problem with staying downwind is I don’t know which way the deer will come from so many times I think I’m downwind but the deer are actually upwind
This series is excellent, the depth of knowledge in this is great and very informative.
Outstanding presentation by an expert. Thank you.
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I’ve heard a lot about smoking your clothes and equipment. Any comments on that. Thks! Loved this podcast!! Awesome Answered ! Thanks
Ga hunter hot days and swirly wind.
I smoke them in the morning on the drive into the woods I believe it really helps confuse the seer to where I am.
I stumbled onto you guys a little while ago with the Deer Vision segment. I was absolutely blown away. Can't wait to get all the way through this one. I was a GA hunter for my 10 years down there from '05-'15. Had a nice club in Greenville, GA. Good times. Nobody knows tough hunting till they try it in the SE US! Another fascinating podcast. Now that I'm hooked only 598ish to go!!
I absolutely love these technical videos great job guys!!
I was hoping y'all were gonna talk about the Zero Trace from Wildlife Innovations. I learned a lot of good stuff about scent and the way deer use their noses. Thanks for the video guys.
Thank you, this is a great podcast.
We are glad you enjoy the show!
I have known hunters that have used a chain saw and or a radio on tree plantation’s, as an attractant.
The deer were used to those sounds and were not bothered by them giving the hunters an opportunity to harvest a deer.
Super interesting! I've always been into kayak fishing, this was my 1st year deer hunting/ hunting in general. Not much can keep me off the water , even through winter but I have enjoyed it so far. Have a lot to learn! I got lucky my 1st deer/ buck was a nice 10 point here in SC
I’m really glad that I have completely stopped using all cover sent and sent blocking sprays. I stay up wind if at all possible and I use the zero trace technology. The fan doesn’t bother the deer at all and it seems to actually work.
Did you mean to say downwind?
Almost Every big buck and big boar iv shot iv been smoking on a ol fish wistle in a GRAPE cigar , but i also think hunting when your scent is rising due to thermals is more important than wind direction the wind is constantly changing directions then theres the rut and then there only concerned with one smell !
Question: Does rain help wash away scent? Either human scent brushing against vegetation or human scent while you are in the treestand or scent from broken/cut branches?
I've used scentlok for 4 years now. I will not hunt without it. I've had great success with it
Jacob Sklenar has an awesome e scouting video on his channel and several boots on the ground scouting videos.Some of it even translates to southern hunting.
This affirms what I’ve personally experienced while hunting. I’ll keep hunting down wind or off wind. Take extra time to consider where the deer are coming from(scout) and do your best to not walk where you expect them to walk. Only exception I’ve seen in the woods is a rut crazed buck not caring as much about my scent.
Learned to not waste time at a spot if I’m not confident about where my scent is going.
Great info. Learned a lot. Will help in the hunt. Something not talked about much.
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great show fellas. this guy really breaks it down. thats a great analogy by Jacob Sklenar! hes a smart young man.
Thanks man!
So the deer are more likley smelling the little debbies of my breath compared to the scent coming off my body? I'm tossing little debbies in the woods so they get use to that scent lol
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Don't leave chocolate ones behind, might be bad for them like other critters.
I am convinced that I can smoke while hunting now. Basically, there is nothing I can do to prevent deer from knowing I'm there unless I am downwind
Ive killed and seen more deer when i smoked then since ive quit
@@MurkFlurFlinlol I’ll take a a couple puffs off a cigar while I’m still in the truck that cigar generally lasts me all season. But I noticed the same after I quit smoking. Tried the cigar trick and they started walking back up on me.
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I used to smoke and I think it was the movement of smoking that hurt the most.
Is there a scientific study on the effectiveness on devices like ozonics, and or scent control clothing?
I heard years ago from some young farmers to make a small fire and smoke your self and your clothes a small amount to mask your scent. Their rational was that there are always small burns going on around the deer from farms and other small fires so the deer are used to smelling light smoke randomly throughout the year.
Ok, I went with smoke to cover! Doe down wind 25 yrds. She came across nose to the ground and not over my track stopped dead in her tracks and throwed nose up in the air. I smoked all my gear as well as myself. She lightly stomped continued smelling and testing the air. She backed up and continued to smell looking dead at us. She knew where the scent was coming from. Finally after testing and retesting the air for what seemed like 5 minutes she turned and walked off the way she was headed and not back the way she came. We were approximately 20 feet in a double ladder stand. Two of us and both smoked down. Now, what did she smell? Smoke is what I think alerted her. I think she was wondering what was on fire, in a tree. I can’t say it will work for the next deer but I will continue to smoke up per that experience. Thks
I'm not sure trimming lanes has much of an effect, if any. Sure it releases scent but does it deter the deer? I'm not convinced. I was trimming a couple days ago on my property. I was out there for several hours doing heavy trimming. Different evergreens, maple branches, various other brush. Deer came through that evening about 30 minutes before dark, just like any other day. I got an 8 point on the camera lingering in the pines where I was just a few hours prior. I don't see how it's any different from a tree breaking in heavy winds or after heavy snow. The pines are always dropping needles, weaping sap, dropping branches. There is farming (corn fields) and a small livestock hobby farm in the surrounding area so the deer here are acclimated to human presence. That's gonna different from being deep in the woods.
Good job getting governor ventura to sit down and talk on this subject. He never once mentioned the baja.
Great show and awesome guest
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Great information. I'd be curious about the ground scent difference with snow vs dirt/grass/vegetation?
Howdy ya'll from Ohio. This was a great show!
Hey, thanks!
So I need to get a full body wet suit and a full faced respirator with a self-contained breathing apparatus? Think thatd work!?
Please don’t do that 🤣
Another great episode boys.
Agree 100% about the wind. But I am all about smoking myself and my clothes out right before I go into the stand. I have had deer walk behind the stand down wind and still killed them. Maybe they caught a little bit of my scent? But it felt like the aroma of the smoke may have been more overwhelming.
We’ve had a guest on the show a few years ago named Travis Murray who is a big believer of smoking his clothes before each hunt. Like Tom said in the episode if it gives you confidence then keep doing it.
I had read about Native Americans doing that, so one year I gave it a shot. Smoked all my clothes around the campfire. I've never been blown by more deer in my life. I gave up all sprays, covers, and attractants. I wear rubber boots, walk the least amount I can, and that's it. Less is more.
@@TheGwt3So it works well?
@@Patrician9000no, he said every single deer winded up. Which they would. Why the hell would a deer not pinpoint you in a tree when you smell like fucking fire. Dumbest shit ever
@@Patrician9000Lol no he said it was the worst he’s ever seen.
This is sooo good. I took notes throughout and keep them to renew the knowledge each year. One question. I heard that deer, if they cross a path where you walked, can know in which direction you were walking. Could that be possible... Are there any knowledge that we know of dogs that could confirm this as being possible^ Thank you. Superb!
He addressed that subject briefly in the podcast. Essentially the dog (and presumably also a buck tracking a hot doe, etc.) processes the olfactory information to such an incredible degree that it can determine the freshness of a single track (or footprint if you will), in relation to the very next one on a trail, and thus can almost instantly determine the subject's direction of travel, even though there are only a few milliseconds' difference in the "age" of each footprint.
It stands to reason; how else could a dog cut a track and invariably follow it in the right direction with only a couple sniffs in each direction if not by being able to compare relative freshness?
It's really an astonishing natural ability when you think about it, isn't it?
@@ronkruchten5867 Thank you for this fascinating knowledge.
@@jeanmorin3247 You're very welcome!
I'm a lifelong hunter, and over the years I have observed deer demonstrate their olfactory abilities in ways that seem almost supernatural.
One of my most memorable and eye-opening incidents occurred way back when I was still beginning teenage hunter, scouting out a new-to-me farm.
I was slowly walking on a high ridge and watched a small group of does came out of the woods into an alfalfa hayfield in a valley far below to feed late in the afternoon.
They were calm and undisturbed, so I decided just to watch them with my binoculars as long as I could.
After a few minutes a front moved in, the temperature dropped noticeably and the cold breeze shifted from crosswise, to blowing straight toward the deer in relation to my position.
I noted the falling leaves and milkweed fluff , and mentally made my best estimate for about how many minutes it would take the wind to carry them that far if they didn't fall to the ground first.
Right on cue, they all snapped their heads up and looked up toward the ridge and me.
The bigger does stomped and probably snorted although I was too far away to hear it.
Then they all took off to cover, tails waving.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that my scent was what spooked them when the wind shifted and carried it to them.
I paced off the distance the next day at something well over 900 yards, or about HALF A MILE.
Learned a lot, Thankyou
What's with the secrecy with Ozone?
Did they cover rubber boots vs regular boots? Does scent killer spray work on the feet?
No need to cover it! Rubber boots are the most productive form of footwear to mitigate ur scent!
Is there any consideration towards scent elimination of bacteria such as ozonics being of any help.
I always try to leave a tee-shirt or rag at my stand though out the summer seems to work opening day deer don’t pay me any attention
I read an article from the early-mid 2000's talking about this same thing. They did it down in Texas and seemed to work very well for the writer
Défense through offense
Just wondering if chewing spruce gum would help hide your scent.
I loved this Info. very Unformatted
I'm wondering if using a climber and tearing into the tree puts deer on alert? With the way he was talking about branches being broke or cut puts deer on alert it is very possible there's a bunch of odor from where the teeth dig into a tree disturbing the bark.
There is a chance for sure but also that's a normal scent in the area. Check out episode 510 with Rick Cope. He uses something to smell like heavy pine scent for cover scent and has had excellent success with it for nearly 40 years.
You can get away with a little bit of movement. If you're not on the horizon. Get up in a tree 15-20 ft, and you get by with a bit more movement.
Lord knows I need to listen this one
smoking a left handed cigarette too and from your spot in addition to wearing cover scents on your boot will help you out. That being said, a deer will remember the smell of you if you happen to make contact with him and not kill them or if they are grouped up.
@22:20. Even humans BEST SENSE with repect to memory (good vs bad) is SMELL
I use walnuts, throw a few in a bucket. Mix them around some and let them sit for a couple of days. Put it in a spray bottle, and I spray my outer layer before I head into the woods. I've had many deer come in down wind of me and have pictures of me walking past a trail cam as I was leavin, and 40 mins later 2 different bucks were in front o the camera. One of them took the same path I had just walked and the other came in downwind of where I had been sitting.
So basically we need some corn flavored chewing gum😂😂😂😂
It’s not the breath through your mouth but your breath through your nose. No way to mitigate that unless you were un-alive 😅
@@thesouthernoutdoorsmen I know, just making a funny 🤦♂️🤦♂️ must’ve not been a good one 😂😂 need corn flavored cocai…. Never mind
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This is a reason a electric bike is important to utilize in long walk ins
We always hung our deer hunting clothes in the dairy barn !
I heard of a family that collected cow piss while milking before hunting. They dipped their boot bottoms in it and splashed urine around the walk to their stand, then splashed a bit around near the blind. Deer are not scared of cows and bucks will sometimes follow the urine scent
That's why I always have a fresh Copenhagen in when I go to the stand, it covers my breath.
1:04:23 anyone catch the look he gave him? i wonder what that was about def an 'you see' kind of look im assuming maybe he's a smoker?
So I wonder what the real info on these new scent control blenders that you put material in, chop up and make scent covers with if damaged plants release specific vocs. Are you walking around smelling like an injured cedar tree? I made some. Not with that apparatus but seems to work exceptionally well. Have had a few walk right under me.
sweet lodge was to get rid off excessive water, the most obvious reason for scent trails. its easy its effective. no need to worry about finger prints oil or skin contacts, they aren’t tracking you. it works too for feral dogs or cats trying to tack you. uv sealed units work very well on clothing and boots, unless you sweat or expell excessive moisture from the mouth its hard for animals to detect you
I’m wondering if the smell of campfire on your clothes can have a negative effect on hunting as well because that’s an extremely strong scent.
Depends if the deer usually smell campfires or not. I raised my boys hunting in the national forest where the ridges overlooked several well used camp fire sites. Extensively used by hikers, boy scouts, etc. We often had the place to ourselves during hunting, and of course had campfires. The boys were often within yards of deer with their muzzleloaders. They all got their first deer (bucks only) with campfire smoke as their cover scent.
I’ve never hunted a day in my life just interested? Is there no say charcoal mask to cover one’s breath if it is such a factor?
Years ago there was a skunk scent on the market that was two part. It didn’t smell until they were together. I hung cotton balls a put some downwind from me and it worked like a charm. Can’t find it anymore. Bought what they say is the real stuff but it doesn’t smell like that stuff and doesn’t work nearly as well. 😑
Anyone remember Paul Putara telling u about sunlight analysis on CalTopo… bucks bed in the blue zones bc of thermals also bc it’s cooler and they can smell better bc scent wants to pool there… so other ideas is to be downwind of where scent pools and be down wind of where his nose can be the strongest… IE compounding features has multiple air currents food or brush to smell and eat and other scents…
Did he mention how long after someone left a track that a dog can follow their trail. Like 1 day, 2 days, etc. ?
Didn't scent Lok WIN their lawsuit with the findings stating that human scent was reduced 96-99%? Also, I can smell a cake a mile away. I can also smell the individual ingredients in the cake. lemon, almond, sugar, butter, cream cheese, eggs, baking powder, etc. I'm guessing that we don't have cake receptors in our noses. Surely our brains bond the individual odors together into what we learn to recognize as cake. Deer must work the same way. Smoke and human scent are combined in the brain to create a unique odor. Deer are probably very good at also detecting the individual odor components. This has to be explained in a similar way to how humans perceive the color spectrum. We have 3 primary receptors and can see seemingly infinite range of colors in the visible spectrum. All colors that we can see are the result of the 3 primary colors being biased by our brains based on the density of each color frequency present. With any given color humans learn to identify the individual blue, red or green colors that are present. It seems that smell would work the same. The molecules do not need to bond to mask a smell, our brains will bias the odors based on the ratios of the individual scents that are present. A cake is not a single odor. It is a mixture of odors that our brains recognize as cake. A minimally trained brain can easily detect the individual ingredients. If a deer has not experienced smoke and human odors together, it might not easily recognize the individual odors without some effort. But once they make the connection, it's game over. Maybe I'll start bringing cake into the stand. LOL What beast on this earth runs from cake.
Any thoughts on Bear vision/wolf ect?
I really wish you guys would have asked him about the turpentine and the likelihood of it helping
I use my own philosophy ..... if the wind is blowing from my body to the deer's nose, I'm busted.
I use bug spray and wear blue jeans, pump gas, and hunt straight after work. Good luck to everyone this upcoming season!
Dont wear blue, deer can see blue better than any other color 🤷♂️
I scent my hunting clothes the night before I hunt using cattle pellets. Same ones I put in the feeders…
As informative as this is, and it is informative. It seems to just create more questions and concerns that we as smelly humans cant do anything about. Perhaps a better practice is not to worry so much and just use the wind and whatever scent eliminator you trust and, go hunt. Deer are odd animals that do things that cant be explained all the time.
I'm 62, and I've hunted deer 50 yrs. The ? about rubber boots is funny to me. Pick ANY piece of rubber up and smell it. U can actually smell a rubber boot from FEET away with ur minimum scent ability compared to a deer. Rubber boots don't grow on grass, or trees. A deer can smell a rubber boot from very long distances. Therefore, rubber scent on the ground is like a neon sign to a deer. Rubber boots only keep ur foot scent off the ground, and the rubber scent is far stronger than ur foot scent.
Same with any leather boots only humans scent will cling to the leather more than the rubber
Rubber smell doesn’t scare deer as much as human smell on leather boots
Rubber boots that you've had a good while will leave very little smell. Walk through a cow pie and go on wherever you're going. That won't scare them..... lol
True, rubber boots don't grow on grass but millions of rubber tires get ground up to molecules by normal use on every road in the nation. Deer cross roads every day. Not to mention tractor tires on ag fields and skidder tires in managed forests. There is nothing unfamiliar nor foreign to a deer about the scent of rubber boots.
Simple, stay downwind.... has worked for centuries
Yes sir!
Very cool video
Most ppl don't know where deer bed let alone even know where they feed or travel. 😂 don't give any more simple secrets.. 😂😢😅
Come hunt the hills in Jackson County and try to stay down wind
@Im.hurtnLinda ok what state? I hunt Allegheny national forest bro.. it's all different but the same. Either u kill deer or u don't... I do it all lol haha 🤣
Native Americans used smoke before hunting for thousands of years
So one of my takeaways from this video is a lot of your sent comes from your breath. My question related to that is it seems like wearing a mask would reduce some of that sent (and of course, the better the mask the less sent)
In December I was hunting a swamp on a split deer trail place my knit hat in a brush pile sat in a new muskrat like blind on second trail .Deer took first trail went into the brush pile and just stomped around and snorted then after 5 minutes of that just walked away.lol
What is the abbreviation VOC stand for?
volatile organic compound
@ thank you!
I have a question how to hunt my property. I have been hunting an 18,000 acre private property called ames plantation and I have hunted it for two years and have not been seeing the amount of deer I wanted. The whole place is all mainly flatland and the deer dont seem to want really go out to ag fields, could you give me any tips on how to find a bigger density of deer there? Thank you
Have you been in the woods around the field edges?
Look for choke points, places where deer HAVE to walk through.
Thank you
Would like to listen to the original conversation with Brownlee (Episode 315). Can't find it on the RUclips Channel. Anyone have a link? Thanks!
It came out before we started doing the video podcast. It’s available on Spotify, apple podcast and iheart radio
If most is in your breath, and inevitable, can chewing gum, dip, brushing teeth, mouth wash, peppermint, coffee, ect be a better route for that sent
You smoke cigarettes while u bow hunt if you set up rite
My grandfather smoked like a chimney and shot a buck every year. I don’t suggest taking up smoking, as cancer is what got the best of him. I brush my teeth and tongue, and rinse before going into the woods
From what the guy said, the deer are gonna smell whatever you decide to try and mask your breath with plus your unique smell. Not to say that maybe it will help but that was my take.
They said the deer would smell your breath and those other compounds. I'm not wondering and surprised it wasn't mentioned, but what about breathing out through an activated charcoal respirator? They trap VOCs.
Im no expert but I go in to a stand wearing minimal clothing so I dont sweat and use sent eliminator (I use Dead Downwind) at the truck and also put a few drops of doe pee on my boots and all I can smell is doe pee when I get to my stand. This has been working for me for years now. In fact, I got out of the stand tonight and had to take a dump bad! and I was about 40-50 yards from my stand when I did my business and the wind was swirling and all I did after, once I was back in my stand was put another drop of doe pee on my boots and less than 20-30 minutes a doe walked right into my range and acted like nothing was wrong.
If you live next to a cookie factory, after a while you get numb to that odor…can the same happen to a deer??
There was an old article where the writer tested the for years. He said it worked well on his farm in Texas. He conditioned the deer for years with sweaty work closes around his feeders. It was an interesting read.
As well as precipitation
I wonder what he thinks about HECS suit?
HECS is not scent control. Still I wish there was more evidence that it worked with deer on seeing you
Surprised the subject of rain didn't come up. Otherwise, very to the point information. We stink, they know it!
I'd love to talk with Tom about training a dog for tracking wounded deer.
So a deer 1/4-1/2 mile downwind of a hunter can smell that hunter it sounds like?
What I've seen is that if they smell you you are 100% busted. But sight and especially sound often take some degree of "verification" for them to make up their mind. If they see and hear you, you are 100% busted. If they see you and you move even a little.... 100% busted. If they hear you but you are out of sight and smell, you can often cover some noise by grunting, or scraping the ground, or by making squirrel or turkey noises. Just my observations, but it seems to align with the data presented here.
I have been to school!!😄
I’ve heard how long a deers nose can affect how good they smell. A deer with a longer nose has more receptors and smells better than a deer with a shorter nose.
Ultimately, in the hunting woods, you are always upwind of something and downwind of something, simultaneously……..
Something that is said here that contradicts itself. Your scent will be left behind for deer to smell, just blowing down wind. But let's not worry about our scent downwind as long as we're hunting downwind of a deer.
I will say, be just as concerned about your downward scent because deer don't just walk where you want them to. Hence I will continue to do everything I do...scent control spray, scent control clothing, and scent control ozone. Never walk in the woods without gloves on (oils on your hands), and if you're scouting close to hunting season, try hunting before or during a rain.
Scent is sometimes heavier and easier to smell after a rain due to humidity
@@normalguy556 I like to go during or before to wash scent away. Never heard of rain increasing scent.
@n22186 I've heard several dog trackers talk about the increased ability in their dogs noses after a rain event.
@@normalguy556 that's interesting, I'll have to ask some bear dog owners I know. Thanks!
@@n22186 for sure! Curious to see what they say as well
Smells like a winner to me , lol great show .
@@Retroadventure8.0 thanks man! We appreciate you watching!
There was a missed explanation when talking about scented soaps, deodorant, etc. Your Scent signature is 5% made up such items, that means I.D.ing the smell as you, a single individual. He touched on all those items are aromatics, i.e. meant to smell strong and LAST for a long time not breaking down easily. So the perfumes of those items will still be an alarming smell which smell stronger, last longer and travel further in the environment than "your" other 95% of the smells coming from your signature. The least you can do as a deer hunter is not wear your cologne to the deer stand. ;)
Right. I just shower without soap the morning of the hunt, no cologne and eat my snacks.