For some reason, I'm imagining this as a creepypasta where there's that one door in your house that's always closed, but when you press your ear against it, you hear the sound of clickety clacketing and a lot of swearing. There's also a foul odor coming from that room and a weird glow under the door frame that's always there, even in the deepest, darkest hours of the night. You've never been inside this room and you're pretty sure you don't ever want to, but your mother assures you it's nothing to worry about. This is where your 'brother' hangs out. You've never seen this so called 'brother', but she assures you he exists. The reason you have never seen him is because he ventured down a dark path of infinite killing and he's become unrecognizable since then. They're desperate to keep you out of this room for fear of the same thing happening to you, because once this demon sets its claws in you, it never lets go. 'WoW' they call this demon and none who have faced it, have ever returned.
Actually i met a grand marshal in another game, i started wow not long ago and he showed me his accounts, one of them was this grand marshal dwarf with over 200k kills xD He told me all this kills have been done from vanilla to tbc Insane if u think about it
Rank 14 was all I wanted back then, and I had a reasonable amount of time to get there within 6 months. I have children now, So they'll be farming honor while I sleep.
The first time I saw someone with the PvP epics I thought to myself as a kid: "Wow, this guy has cool gear." Now I'd think: "Wow, this guy probably has a poop bucket in his room. Still cool gear tho."
True, those were some odd times when players did PvE content to get an advantage in PvP while some raiders farmed honor to save gold on their epic mount. Even though I love how questing felt in Classic, I think after a while I'd like to transition into the more balanced PvE and PvP versions of BC and WotLK respectively.
@@ReeceDK I really liked BC, because I could slowly work towards nice PvP gear one piece at a time and it didn't require no-lifing it. I still no-lifed it, though. I was a kid and had no obligations. Was really nice to just target a weapon right off the bat and see an instant heavy power up once you got it. Getting the whole set still took a lot of work, though.
@@Zamolxes77 What a wonderful world we live in, you can get R14 and a Darwin Award simultaneously. I can´t wait to see these titles being handed out left and right in a couple of months. Joking of course, these people have issues.
I'm 100% positive it was there in Vanilla too. I remember joking about it with my friends in school and that was pre-TBC and I didn't even play TBC with them when it came out.
I got rank 14 in vanilla. If asked if I would do it again I would say definitely not. It just way too time consuming and the dedication you have to put into that grind is insane. You are not the same person afterwards. Just don't do it folks.
As someone who spent 6 months doing this for 14-16 hours a day, everyday, I'd consider what's of importance to you lol. That said, smashing squishies with a list full of pots and windfury buff on my R14 Arms Warrior after 6 months of grinding was the sweetest crescendo into nerdgasm. Are BGs going to be released immediately? If so, get a group going right away and grind out constantly. There are honor tracking mods you can use to stagger who gets what rank to make it most efficient, if you work together. Generally, if we were vs another group we would just immediately concede to not drag it out. It was kind of bullshit and I wasn't about it, but that's what the group I rolled with decided on, and it was the only way I was going to get R14. You can pretty much never stop BGing. How long you have to go depends on how much competition for the spot there is. When I got R14, I got it the same week 3 other people did. It can range anywhere from 4 months to a year. If you can get away with other people using your account without getting banned, do it lol. Be warned that this is an easy way to get banned, and can totally fuck up how much honor you're raking in. I never did this but I know a lot of guys did. You could probably solo your way to at least R13 if people take shifts on the account. Or you could just wait until AQ and some BWL and get better gear. Honestly, if you're after gear, just join a hardcore raid guild and wait till you get to endgame content. You can still pvp on the side. I was in a raid guild that was doing 4-6 hour raids while pvping for HWL, and I had to fuck over my guild and dodge raids for 3 weeks while we were at Nefarius. I was their main fury warrior, and generally top 3 on charts, as well as a dedicated offtank. Make sure you pick your priorities. Good guilds are like families with long lasting friends, and you all work together to overcome difficult issues. No better feeling than downing that boss you were stuck on with only 3 people left alive in your 40 man raid. Nothing will make you better at raiding than PVP, though. No WoW boss design compares to the reflexes you need and develop inside competing with other people, especially nowadays when people are much more competent at video games than in like 2005 or whenever I did it. When I raided, everything and everyone felt so slow because my alertness was super high. PvP is really fun, and spending a lot of time involved in it is very challenging and very stimulating. There's a lot of unique interactions you're bound to have and a lot of high level competition. Nerd boners galore. Still, as someone who chased the dream, consider if you're up to sacrificing a highly dedicated 5-6+ months of your life non-stop in order to get the gear. It felt fuckin great using it once I got it, but in terms of real life, I turned into much more of a ragey, angsty dungeon troll and completely dissociated from any other facets of my life. Vanilla wow was one of the heaviest drugs, and I probably only got off it because the game evolved into something I no longer enjoyed. It's important to remember that these things are temporary and really don't amount to much else in life that you can compound on top of. Take care and have fun :)
@@fernybern I mean, 1 million plus honor kills is probably going to do something for your individual skillset. In the group I was in, there was still a number of low skill players no doubt. Skill helps speed up the process, especially if you're competing against other groups that might have skilled players. You're right that time is more important to the grind. I solod my way to R11 or 12, I don't recall exactly. I mostly pvp'd in bgs and world just for fun at the challenge of it all. The grind will make you a better player but to be the best at pvp and duels, you really just have to constantly expose yourself to them and push your parameters. Once I saw pvp videos of R14 warriors (a class that scaled more from gear than any other at the time) completely stomping, I was convinced that I wanted to go for it. Most R14 I knew weren't shit at duels and pvp though lol. The sheer number of encounters you have is bound to increase skill.
What if all the old vanilla players all gathered up and conspired to tell the masses how hard is is to get rank14, just so that it would be easy-peasy for them because nobody will try to do it except themselves?
basicly this , they will feel good for a while .. but no life at all >< i have a job and a family now ... i simply dont have time to classic... let alone go for rank 14.. i dont even want to thats just to much >
um that happens to people who currently play retail and other online games all day and night. classic aint shit on the THOUSANDS of hours i have across all expansions.
the normal grind isnt that bad a person can do it in 3-4 days a week but being on a server where people want to sabotage each other which is what the world wants to do right now kinda ruins that.
Yep.. that's how it was. I was staying up TWENTY hours a day to get it (and of course, I did!) but I literally felt a hole in my head inthe last two months. I would never put myself through this again, for any reason.
@@joshgomez7522 not yet. pve gear becomes better after AQ release. also not for every class. r14 weapon for warriors is bis until naxx. there are other classes who want to get the pvp gear cause everything dropping in pve for them is just crap.
Rank 12 is actually Boots, Legs, and GLOVES. It says on the names - "General's" or "Marshal's" Rank 13 is Helm, Shoulders, and CHEST. "Warlord's" or "Field Marshal's"
I actually got rank 14 in vanilla. I made a short video talking about the grind. Took me 5 months of 12 to 16 hour grinding. I wish my editing was as funny as yours. All your vids are fucking hilarious. The SM dungeon guide still my favorite of yours.
@@pinglankek Yeah it was crazy. A lot of people don't seem to realize, even if you could get rank 14 in 3 months under the best possible circumstances, that will never happen. There are always other people trying to get rank 14 that you have to compete with. My grind took especially long since I was melee. Melee was at a huge disadvantage before BGs came out.
Back in the day I knew the regular high warlord of my server personally - It was a married couple, sharing an account. Well, the husband was working the graveyard shift, so with their sleep cycles already out of sync they just no-life'd it for months on end. That hunter was queued for, or in, Arathi Basin nearly 24/7. (relationship goals btw) So for any of you who kinda want to get to rank 14; Remember the part about competing with players of your own faction for bracket spots? Players like case above is who you will be up against. You have been warned.
I was a rank 14 player back in Vanilla and it was indeed a experience. I did have some fun in it though, as I was a night elf warrior and while I was moving to rank 14 there was a Tauren warrior who was doing the same. We always made a rule that when we encountered each other in a battleground that we do a salute while in combat in respect. We both also got rank 14 at the same time and congratulated each other. The bad part was while I had to mostly keep up around 40-60k honor every week to help get myself on up to grand marshal, he was having to make 120-160k honor to get high warlord.
I'm pretty sure that Timbermaw Hold was the first faction that I ever became exalted with. And I literally started that process, and completed it, as soon as I ran in to them, while leveling my main. So, this might be the sort of waste of time that I could get in to! Or whatever BC's version of it is!
Classic Grand Marshall here.... yeh, I played all summer with no job.. I must say, PVP BGs was probably the best experience back then. but the grind was insane
@@Kingdomkeyboarder Not the guy you're asking, but I was part of an honor team helping people grind rank 14. The guy I was helping (who did get rank 14) was a warrior. I was a Druid aka WSG Flag running bot.
Got rank 14 in vanilla. My pvp team controlled alliance PvP on the server. Each week we would switch off who got Rank 14. The rumors of playing 24/7 are untrue. However, it was a commitment. 10-12 hour days in AB and I was an early riser, so I'd play even more. I think I was 22 at the time, so I didn't have much else going on and I didn't care. I think it took 8 weeks before I was there. No win trading, we'd just steamroll everyone. My favorite memory is beating the top Horde PvP team in AB, and they were so upset they stopped playing for the rest of the week. For a while I was the only Rank 14 priest on the server with all the other warriors and paladins. I think it would be impossible to get to Rank 14 on your own.
꧁Travis Russo꧂ Yeah, hand of rag is the 2nd best wep, BUT....... who’s actually going to give hand of rag to a Druid lol :(, Unless you’re a selfish Guild Leader
What actually happened was that you had 1 premade on each side, both of which dodged each other and only played against (mostly) undergeared and dis-organized randoms. So it just boiled down to how quickly you could cap all 5 points in AB / capture all 3 flags in WSG, while simultaneously farming their graveyard till you're blue in the face. Those that didn't partake in the premade circlejerk ended up account sharing, so you'd run into characters that were literally online 24/7 for months.
You can hit rank 14 mid week before the reset now that honor is calculated instantly so make sure you have gold in the bag to buy all the weapons so you don't have to do it again.
As a neckbeard of the type that did this in Vanilla, you've misunderstood how stacking works. The bottom person in the bracket doesn't ever get the minimum rank points for the bracket, their RP depends on the size of the gap between their honor and the highest honor of the bracket below. You never want to stack everyone in a bracket at the same honor (even if it were possible to do), either; you have the bottom guy serving as the anchor and the rest close together (but no need for it to be exact) above them. So you can get screwed by people going over, but it's mainly only when they push into the next bracket and pass the people who are supposed to be above them.
I got rank 13.5 in vanilla. 15 hour days hardcore PVPing for months. The upside our premade never lost a battle for weeks straight. Horde premades AFKd out when they saw us. You play a lot but you own face doing that, so it is a lot of fun
Problem with R14 is that the gear is kinda worse than late AQ40 / Naxx even for the melee. As an Ele shaman with R11 and full AQ40 set I saw no point in going further, gear was pretty bad compared to what I had already. Not that I even needed the R11 mount, just wanted the title for the looks. Also, titles get removed from your list as soon as you de-rank so that's a point to consider as well. It's not like in current WoW, when you can boast your High Warlord for all eternity. Sure, you can get to R14 faster than most of the guilds clear BWL, yet you'll get outgeared at some point by raiders. And it's not really possible to raid and pvp on the same toon unless you can literally play 24x7. Hope they rework the PvP rewards a bit.
I was the first Alliance Rogue on Boulderfist to get Rank 14 in January of 06. I worked a part time job but I put in my vacation to be off for my final week so I could go crazy. I ended up getting the top spot but was 2% short of Rank 14. I planned to go to my friend's for 2 days for my bday but canceled as I needed to grind for an extra week. I knew I didn't need the top spot but I was still #5 to be sure. Man, that grind was rough. A lot of casters stopped at Rank 13 because the weapon wasn't as big of a upgrade for them. On the outside it seems crazy to stop 1 rank early and not get the weapon or title but when you've done the later few ranks you kind of understand because the last rank alone can take weeks or even a month+ depending what bracket you're in each week. I've done a lot of crazy grinds and milestones in my MMO days like Halfling Mask in EQ, Shadowmourne in WoW, Gladiator in WoW, and did a ton of high end raiding as all types of classes/specs over various MMOs and expansions and this grind was the roughest and probably my best achievement. I used to play Magic at a local game store and all my friends said I couldn't do it when I first started my journey. When I finally did it they called my Grand Marshal or "GM" for years. I don't go there anymore but they still refer to me as that when telling stories and talking about people.
I've amassed more joy (that deep stress relieving laugh... From the soul) from this video and more entertainment value than viewing the Mona Lisa. Ty sir. This was a masterpiece. Statistical data with inside and general humor, all in one convenient parcel. Bravo! Encore! /Throws roses
I got to Rank 7 back then I couldn't devote that amount of time to go higher. What made me even more sore was that I sold the gear into TBC with upgrades and the Transmog came much later. Thankfully I kept the mounts and you could buy the older PVP pieces if you ever got the Rank. Respect to the people in who could've made this grind. It required a literal life devotion to get it done and I know quite a few people who were very unemployed at this age in the game grinding that Rank. Looking back on it all, I feel that twinge of regret because I feel like I wasted a lot of my life being so wrapped up in WoW for so many hours each day, wrecking my sleep schedule, giving myself acid reflux from the late nights that lasted into the early mornings to another day of rushing to get to work and hook up on caffeine to get through the day... I'm happy with it my crappy rank. I can't fathom the stress it was to max.
Thanks to COVID I got to rank 10 while having a job, deranked to 6, got Might of Menethil and ranked back to 12. Good times, still think COVID was invented by Blizzard to let us all enjoy the game once again.
I knew a guy from Highschool who hit Grand Marshall back in the original classic. He would come home from school everyday, and be pvping all night until 3-4am in the morning, and show up to school everyday still for a few months straight too even.
Lieutenant-General RopeDrink here. Back in the day, myself and many others helped a chap who was legitimately pushing for High Warlord (and eventually got it). This poor chap had to neglect sleep, life and everything in-between. After all that work, all but the title was meaningless as soon as the game progressed in any way whatsoever. To make it worse, PvP gear really wasn't all that good. Back before resilience was even a thing, PvE gear was still doing infinitely better than PvP alternatives in both PvP and PvE content (and was, arguably, far more accessible). The difference compared to the present, however, is that not many would have had the time or means to fully gear from either content (ie. you were either all-in or you were an unprepared free-kill chump). Me? I I loved BG's and PvP more than most and was happy with my epic mount and being a Lieutenant-General - but after seeing what High Warlord did for my friend, I left it at that.
I was one of the very first Rank 14 players in the EU. I am NEVER doing that again. It literally ruined my life for weeks. I also won the Test of Honor contest on my server. Truly, I had no life, lol.
I was 4th Grand Marshal on my server. It was awful. More like 16 hours a day, but you could afk during queues (alliance). I remember one day the servers went down for the whole day, was the only day during the entire grind I got some decent sleep. Hope they change it for classic.
They should change it. It was so harmful to peoples health, it shouldn't have been designed this way. Alas, they can't change it, not with the whole fanbase expressing #NoChanges.
@@Hrimstal It's a terrible system and well technically they did change it in TBC but people want the Classic experienced untouched and untainted so i don't see them making any kind of changes.
My best friend became rank 14 at one point, I never saw him really.. Sometimes I went to his home to drink and it was me watching him play the same time we got drunk.. 😅 I couldn't imagine just playing 24/7 myself, I preferred going out if someone asked me, of course I was also pretty hooked on WoW and played several hours in a row sometimes..
This was freaking hilarious. I havent touched WoW since WOTLK but vanilla is still some of my fondest memories in 30 years of gaming and Im hyped as F for tomorrows release. Nevertheless I never actually considered hitting 14 back then and neevr will now either. This is NOT what made vanilla such an amazing and unique experience. The world pvp combined with grinding your way to 60 as well as challenging end game raids are what made this game so great. BGs actually always have felt half-baked with AV never actually working properly and people ditching the objectives and just rushing for the general and then Resilience gear came out with BC and totally ruined the game and made everyone look the same and epics didnt mean a thing anymore neither did PvE gear since everyone just rushed for easy broken pvp epics . Classic was and will always be the pinacle of WoW.
I went for r14 in vanilla and i must say it was some of the best times in any mmo even though it was a brutal grind. Many other games have forced me to mindless pve grind to be able to compete in pvp which is my passion. Bdo is the last game i quit that had great pvp mechanics but no way to progress through pvp. If i try classic again i would like to find a good raiding guild to experience the raids, but i would definitely pvp a lot. Go to r11 casual and go for r14 if there is enough time to put in. R14 grind did make people crazy back in the day. One of the founders of my guild kicked me out because he was going r14 at the same time and did not believe two can make it the same week. He was even account sharing when i was not. Fortunately when the word got out about this i was helped by all the good pvprs of the server and i had the whole week instawin bg parties waiting no matter what time i played. I did beat the villain but as i excpected he also got r14 same week. Whole guild disbanded after that.
All our guild r14 "Monsters of PvP" leaved the game in TBC cause suddenly arena was requiring more skill than grind. I personally think that TBC - WotLK arena reward system was much better than retail or vanilla WoW. I mean, yeah - grinding like there is no tommorow and than getting gear is satisfying, but everyone who can join premade and have a lot of time can do it. While not everyone can get 2 - 2.4k in arenas.
LOL - R14 in vanilla here. 9:30 is so true. It was a MONSTER grind, was literally painful from lack of sleep and lack of being able to get up and move around. This is one of these things where I say fuck you to the #NoChanges crowd. You didn't do it, I did. THIS needs at least a slight nerf in how brutal it is. Also, no matter how hard you go, even if your account was pvping 24/7 you are capped at 12 weeks to get it. better choice IMO is pvp without going crazy to rank 11, let the insane people get rank 14 (as the video says, if 5000 people can get at least 25 kills, then its 15 a week) so like the first 45 or so hardcores get it, then do a hard push. 70 hours/week might make it after 30-60 really hardcore people get it. Also, To the guys saying "I got rank 12/13 I don't need the weapon, I had Ashkandi/Sulf/DEOI" WRONG. 3.8 speed two handers were better, all there is to it. Only MoM (Which I also had) hits harder but it suffers from mace spec, The GM sword could be better if you got a crit and then a lucky sword spec crit for bursting people down. Also, GM long swords were BIS for DW fury until you kill Kel'Thuzad... then the sword has to drop, and then you have to win it.
I also read somewhere, that R14 receives a teleport spell, allowing them to warp to any "... is under attack!" locations, while also able to use those special chat channels to notify all players there as well.
Fantastic video once again like you said in the stream the paid guys are a great addition. In no time you'll be a big enough channel to get big man tyrone.
I did 10-14 back in the day in a month, but it was 16+ hour play sessions and then botting while asleep / working with a dedicated group who did the same thing.
Fortunatly PVP items don't have anything extra compared to raid items so you can skyp this inhumane grind and still be very competitive as a PVP player with PVE items.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE. I had a guy in my guild when I was playing, that as LITERALLY ALWAYS ONLINE until he got rank 14. It's madness.
I’ve never seen your channel before but god I appreciate your style man. Old school wow machinima hasn’t been around for a while and its what made the culture so enthralling before. Plus your long form essay discussion style with quality ass skits and fiver gags. You’re the shit, forsure subbed.
If anyone hits rank 14 they should automatically be put on a list of people needing an intervention Edit: 1000/10 for that JoJo skit Edit #2: Asmongold read my comment on his stream, my RUclips life is complete
I can still remember my ranking experience in classic WOW 14 years ago. We have a PVP community on our server, players from both factions. We play match-fixing among our community members in Arathi Basin to farm honor, saving us much time to rank up.
I remember when my aunt, father, cousins and everyone else played WoW. I was the lowest level. I still always had the most kills when we had our weekly PvP competitions. It only got worse for the other factions when I actually started leveling up.
My human mage still has her Commander title from back in the day. Had a lock with Legionnaire title. Man I miss the old days, pre-bg's and when BG's first came out. 12-24hr AV's. Groups of us trying to cap towers, get killed.
@@AdonanS no.. have noone here graduated highschool? The video shows the numbers in decimals but the creator faulty added % afterwards. If you check @3:43 you get the real numbers when you remove the %, thus 1 equalus 100% and 0.003 equalus 0.3%, this is the correct formula.
Are any of you going to try and get Rank 14?!
I’m gonna try and ultimately accept Rank 13
Having a job makes that impossible, but Rank 11 would be nice.
Can You give me the jojo meme video? You know, I'm collecting those. :)
I would be pleased with at least rank 5
I try to get as high as i can as holy priest. But i won't do 12 hours every day. Far from it actually.
My big brother was a grand marshal. Never saw much of him.
Sounds about right
For some reason, I'm imagining this as a creepypasta where there's that one door in your house that's always closed, but when you press your ear against it, you hear the sound of clickety clacketing and a lot of swearing. There's also a foul odor coming from that room and a weird glow under the door frame that's always there, even in the deepest, darkest hours of the night. You've never been inside this room and you're pretty sure you don't ever want to, but your mother assures you it's nothing to worry about. This is where your 'brother' hangs out. You've never seen this so called 'brother', but she assures you he exists. The reason you have never seen him is because he ventured down a dark path of infinite killing and he's become unrecognizable since then. They're desperate to keep you out of this room for fear of the same thing happening to you, because once this demon sets its claws in you, it never lets go. 'WoW' they call this demon and none who have faced it, have ever returned.
It's a busy life defending the Alliance
@N!ckN4me RP faction claiming theyre doing the killing? KEK Bur. needed wotlk free trinket to have a chance.
Actually i met a grand marshal in another game, i started wow not long ago and he showed me his accounts, one of them was this grand marshal dwarf with over 200k kills xD
He told me all this kills have been done from vanilla to tbc
Insane if u think about it
Rank 14 was all I wanted back then, and I had a reasonable amount of time to get there within 6 months. I have children now, So they'll be farming honor while I sleep.
Fucking genius. I truly believed you'd of had no chance after breeding, but it appears you've used it to your advantage. Kudos my friend
A man of culture.
until they fuck up and kill a npc lol
I botted and got 13 and was still impossible..
@@BurningCourageX001 he would have no choice but to sell his child to buy a better one then. pity
like my real dad said to me once before he never came back "hey son i'm going to the store to get rank 14"
XDDDDDDDDd
Did he ever come back with the epics?
looool
Legend has it he’s still going for it
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The first time I saw someone with the PvP epics I thought to myself as a kid: "Wow, this guy has cool gear."
Now I'd think: "Wow, this guy probably has a poop bucket in his room. Still cool gear tho."
True, those were some odd times when players did PvE content to get an advantage in PvP while some raiders farmed honor to save gold on their epic mount.
Even though I love how questing felt in Classic, I think after a while I'd like to transition into the more balanced PvE and PvP versions of BC and WotLK respectively.
@@ReeceDK I really liked BC, because I could slowly work towards nice PvP gear one piece at a time and it didn't require no-lifing it. I still no-lifed it, though. I was a kid and had no obligations. Was really nice to just target a weapon right off the bat and see an instant heavy power up once you got it. Getting the whole set still took a lot of work, though.
Mother!, my poop bucket is full
Yeah it always annoyed me that raid gear was better than PVP. I hated raiding but my PVP gear sucked in comparison to tier gear
Noone git level 14 by no-lifing, they all shared the account so they could PvP 24/7.
No, no i don't want to be R14 thanks
Juppesteri my only reason to click the video was this comment. My exact thought
I’m good with just the sergeants cloak or whatever rank it is lol
Me neither, my brain is breaking down just thinking of it.
that moderation tip was added in BC after people died doing the vanilla grind.
as someone who died doing the vanilla grind can confirm
wait, they died during vanilla grind ? sounds interesting, Darwin at its best !
@@Zamolxes77 apparently a few streamers were hospitalized
@@Zamolxes77 What a wonderful world we live in, you can get R14 and a Darwin Award simultaneously. I can´t wait to see these titles being handed out left and right in a couple of months. Joking of course, these people have issues.
I'm 100% positive it was there in Vanilla too. I remember joking about it with my friends in school and that was pre-TBC and I didn't even play TBC with them when it came out.
I got rank 14 in vanilla. If asked if I would do it again I would say definitely not. It just way too time consuming and the dedication you have to put into that grind is insane. You are not the same person afterwards. Just don't do it folks.
Lost a piece of my soul.
As someone who spent 6 months doing this for 14-16 hours a day, everyday, I'd consider what's of importance to you lol.
That said, smashing squishies with a list full of pots and windfury buff on my R14 Arms Warrior after 6 months of grinding was the sweetest crescendo into nerdgasm.
Are BGs going to be released immediately?
If so, get a group going right away and grind out constantly. There are honor tracking mods you can use to stagger who gets what rank to make it most efficient, if you work together.
Generally, if we were vs another group we would just immediately concede to not drag it out. It was kind of bullshit and I wasn't about it, but that's what the group I rolled with decided on, and it was the only way I was going to get R14.
You can pretty much never stop BGing. How long you have to go depends on how much competition for the spot there is. When I got R14, I got it the same week 3 other people did. It can range anywhere from 4 months to a year.
If you can get away with other people using your account without getting banned, do it lol. Be warned that this is an easy way to get banned, and can totally fuck up how much honor you're raking in. I never did this but I know a lot of guys did. You could probably solo your way to at least R13 if people take shifts on the account.
Or you could just wait until AQ and some BWL and get better gear.
Honestly, if you're after gear, just join a hardcore raid guild and wait till you get to endgame content. You can still pvp on the side. I was in a raid guild that was doing 4-6 hour raids while pvping for HWL, and I had to fuck over my guild and dodge raids for 3 weeks while we were at Nefarius. I was their main fury warrior, and generally top 3 on charts, as well as a dedicated offtank. Make sure you pick your priorities.
Good guilds are like families with long lasting friends, and you all work together to overcome difficult issues. No better feeling than downing that boss you were stuck on with only 3 people left alive in your 40 man raid.
Nothing will make you better at raiding than PVP, though. No WoW boss design compares to the reflexes you need and develop inside competing with other people, especially nowadays when people are much more competent at video games than in like 2005 or whenever I did it. When I raided, everything and everyone felt so slow because my alertness was super high.
PvP is really fun, and spending a lot of time involved in it is very challenging and very stimulating. There's a lot of unique interactions you're bound to have and a lot of high level competition. Nerd boners galore.
Still, as someone who chased the dream, consider if you're up to sacrificing a highly dedicated 5-6+ months of your life non-stop in order to get the gear.
It felt fuckin great using it once I got it, but in terms of real life, I turned into much more of a ragey, angsty dungeon troll and completely dissociated from any other facets of my life.
Vanilla wow was one of the heaviest drugs, and I probably only got off it because the game evolved into something I no longer enjoyed. It's important to remember that these things are temporary and really don't amount to much else in life that you can compound on top of.
Take care and have fun :)
Great read, thanks for sharing bro
Just judging by how much you wrote here. It has to be true.
Who admits to being a loser... like it isn't even about skill literally being r14 is a title of shame.
@@fernybern I mean, 1 million plus honor kills is probably going to do something for your individual skillset. In the group I was in, there was still a number of low skill players no doubt.
Skill helps speed up the process, especially if you're competing against other groups that might have skilled players. You're right that time is more important to the grind.
I solod my way to R11 or 12, I don't recall exactly.
I mostly pvp'd in bgs and world just for fun at the challenge of it all. The grind will make you a better player but to be the best at pvp and duels, you really just have to constantly expose yourself to them and push your parameters.
Once I saw pvp videos of R14 warriors (a class that scaled more from gear than any other at the time) completely stomping, I was convinced that I wanted to go for it.
Most R14 I knew weren't shit at duels and pvp though lol. The sheer number of encounters you have is bound to increase skill.
Great read. Thanks.
What if all the old vanilla players all gathered up and conspired to tell the masses how hard is is to get rank14, just so that it would be easy-peasy for them because nobody will try to do it except themselves?
there is no try. i'll do it, no matter what ppl told me. there is no option but rank 14 for me.
@@wruzzer stop watching anime
@@villiamroth5468 "There is no try" Yoda.
thx for reminding me Boar Thrills existed.
Why do this grind?
"For the gear and admiration of your fellow neckbeards"
lmao
"it just turns into an arms race on who can waste more of their life getting digital items in a 14 year old game"
Challenge Accepted
basicly this , they will feel good for a while .. but no life at all >< i have a job and a family now ... i simply dont have time to classic... let alone go for rank 14.. i dont even want to thats just to much >
I appreciate any and all JOJO references and I bless you for including the SDC music
NANI?!
@Ryguy jeez dude, he just enjoys a joke, calm down
You absolute madman. You got those two guys from Fiver didn't you?
looks like it =)
DANK BOİ no, it’s platinum
DIdn't Comment Etiquette feature the lab coat guy?
You just know someone is gonna die irl playing classic.
Rekkn_ and that did happen to an Asian lad who didn’t eat sleep etc! 🤷🏼♂️
Today is day two, I'm 💀
um that happens to people who currently play retail and other online games all day and night. classic aint shit on the THOUSANDS of hours i have across all expansions.
I think wow deathcount before Cataclysm was 23 already
@@Ackz89 _asian_
were they ever alive...
Such an awful system. Your health is more valuable than this.
Yikes
the normal grind isnt that bad a person can do it in 3-4 days a week but being on a server where people want to sabotage each other which is what the world wants to do right now kinda ruins that.
Yeah it was awful, hence them changing it in future expansions. But this is what the #NoChanges folks wanted in all its... uh... "glory."
Yep.. that's how it was. I was staying up TWENTY hours a day to get it (and of course, I did!) but I literally felt a hole in my head inthe last two months. I would never put myself through this again, for any reason.
"So you want to be Rank 14?"
Yes but not when considering what I have to do to get it
Loser. It's totally worth to give up rl for r14 in wow. I can't believe anyone could disagree.
Pve gear was better anyway
@@joshgomez7522 not yet. pve gear becomes better after AQ release. also not for every class. r14 weapon for warriors is bis until naxx. there are other classes who want to get the pvp gear cause everything dropping in pve for them is just crap.
@@joshgomez7522 After a certain point.
You only have to play 12 hours a day past rank 10/11.
If you want to hit r14 you can casually rank up until 10 or so and then go hardcore after
S'up Big Fish
All you doing with rankin to 10 casual is draggin out the farm so you maby have to farm for over a half year or something
Nice deleting my comment, imagine being scared of words in 2019
@@BigMuskachini you are pathetic big musk, so fucking ugly and weird
musket bug ur weird and ugly wtf r u even doing
I love that this video has the editing quality/style of videos from back in the day.
You bungled those percentages by a factor of 100.
This video was hilarious and informative! sometimes you make golden videos and this is one of them! great work.
Rank 12 is actually Boots, Legs, and GLOVES. It says on the names - "General's" or "Marshal's"
Rank 13 is Helm, Shoulders, and CHEST. "Warlord's" or "Field Marshal's"
Literally has "Warlord's" on the item in the video which is Rank 13...
This man is a legend, one of the best content creators ever.
I actually got rank 14 in vanilla. I made a short video talking about the grind. Took me 5 months of 12 to 16 hour grinding.
I wish my editing was as funny as yours. All your vids are fucking hilarious. The SM dungeon guide still my favorite of yours.
Bigbobbedboi gamez 5 months, holy fuck
@@pinglankek Yeah it was crazy. A lot of people don't seem to realize, even if you could get rank 14 in 3 months under the best possible circumstances, that will never happen. There are always other people trying to get rank 14 that you have to compete with.
My grind took especially long since I was melee. Melee was at a huge disadvantage before BGs came out.
This should be the prime example of a high quality video GJ
Hey I'm Boar Thrills, and i'm gonna teach you how to survive
lmao i legit lost it there
I just want to reach Rank10. i would be happy with Champion Set.
The amount of quality that comes out of this channel is absolutely insane.
Seriously, REALLY good job.
Good shit bro.. I literally put everything aside when I watch your videos instead of just playing them in the background. Amazing work!
Damn! The editing on this video is top notch! Must have worked for quite some time on this
That but with asmongold was quite unexpected. And very funny
Back in the day I knew the regular high warlord of my server personally - It was a married couple, sharing an account. Well, the husband was working the graveyard shift, so with their sleep cycles already out of sync they just no-life'd it for months on end. That hunter was queued for, or in, Arathi Basin nearly 24/7. (relationship goals btw)
So for any of you who kinda want to get to rank 14; Remember the part about competing with players of your own faction for bracket spots? Players like case above is who you will be up against. You have been warned.
This. Majority of Rank 14's account shared, and there's no competing with that by yourself.
I don't always sub to WoW RUclips channels, but when I do, it is Platinum WoW
I was a rank 14 player back in Vanilla and it was indeed a experience. I did have some fun in it though, as I was a night elf warrior and while I was moving to rank 14 there was a Tauren warrior who was doing the same. We always made a rule that when we encountered each other in a battleground that we do a salute while in combat in respect. We both also got rank 14 at the same time and congratulated each other. The bad part was while I had to mostly keep up around 40-60k honor every week to help get myself on up to grand marshal, he was having to make 120-160k honor to get high warlord.
This video was great on all aspects. Funny, informative and very well edited. Props to you.
I'm pretty sure that Timbermaw Hold was the first faction that I ever became exalted with. And I literally started that process, and completed it, as soon as I ran in to them, while leveling my main. So, this might be the sort of waste of time that I could get in to! Or whatever BC's version of it is!
Classic Grand Marshall here.... yeh, I played all summer with no job.. I must say, PVP BGs was probably the best experience back then. but the grind was insane
Just for the curiosity, which class you played to get there?
@@Kingdomkeyboarder Not the guy you're asking, but I was part of an honor team helping people grind rank 14. The guy I was helping (who did get rank 14) was a warrior. I was a Druid aka WSG Flag running bot.
@@Kingdomkeyboarder I was warrior
@@Kingdomkeyboarder Warrior of course. are there any other classes who got r14 gear?! if yes it's rare
@@wruzzer Rogue here, thought I got payed by someone to no-life it for 4 months :)
Got rank 14 in vanilla. My pvp team controlled alliance PvP on the server. Each week we would switch off who got Rank 14. The rumors of playing 24/7 are untrue. However, it was a commitment. 10-12 hour days in AB and I was an early riser, so I'd play even more. I think I was 22 at the time, so I didn't have much else going on and I didn't care. I think it took 8 weeks before I was there. No win trading, we'd just steamroll everyone. My favorite memory is beating the top Horde PvP team in AB, and they were so upset they stopped playing for the rest of the week. For a while I was the only Rank 14 priest on the server with all the other warriors and paladins.
I think it would be impossible to get to Rank 14 on your own.
8:59 - when you see the login queue
I don’t want Rank 14 for the title. I want it for the two handed mace because I am a feral druid
the trick was to get HAND of RAG and get rank 13..
@@powerman2610 finaly...
꧁Travis Russo꧂ Yeah, hand of rag is the 2nd best wep, BUT....... who’s actually going to give hand of rag to a Druid lol :(, Unless you’re a selfish Guild Leader
LOL THAT JOJO's REFERENCE xD! epiccc 1:30
What actually happened was that you had 1 premade on each side, both of which dodged each other and only played against (mostly) undergeared and dis-organized randoms. So it just boiled down to how quickly you could cap all 5 points in AB / capture all 3 flags in WSG, while simultaneously farming their graveyard till you're blue in the face. Those that didn't partake in the premade circlejerk ended up account sharing, so you'd run into characters that were literally online 24/7 for months.
That little zapping scene with Asmon at 9:02 was very original 😂 laughed my ass of
I don't think a youtuber has ever made me laugh this much.
You can hit rank 14 mid week before the reset now that honor is calculated instantly so make sure you have gold in the bag to buy all the weapons so you don't have to do it again.
Woah, honor is calculated in real time now? Was this confirmed?
I'm interested if this is valid...
Dont forget. There can only be 1 rank 14 player per server, per faction, per week.
As a neckbeard of the type that did this in Vanilla, you've misunderstood how stacking works. The bottom person in the bracket doesn't ever get the minimum rank points for the bracket, their RP depends on the size of the gap between their honor and the highest honor of the bracket below. You never want to stack everyone in a bracket at the same honor (even if it were possible to do), either; you have the bottom guy serving as the anchor and the rest close together (but no need for it to be exact) above them. So you can get screwed by people going over, but it's mainly only when they push into the next bracket and pass the people who are supposed to be above them.
I got rank 13.5 in vanilla. 15 hour days hardcore PVPing for months. The upside our premade never lost a battle for weeks straight. Horde premades AFKd out when they saw us. You play a lot but you own face doing that, so it is a lot of fun
Dude, this is just beautiful. thea way you put out the info... This is how everything in life should be learned.
Problem with R14 is that the gear is kinda worse than late AQ40 / Naxx even for the melee.
As an Ele shaman with R11 and full AQ40 set I saw no point in going further, gear was pretty bad compared to what I had already. Not that I even needed the R11 mount, just wanted the title for the looks.
Also, titles get removed from your list as soon as you de-rank so that's a point to consider as well. It's not like in current WoW, when you can boast your High Warlord for all eternity.
Sure, you can get to R14 faster than most of the guilds clear BWL, yet you'll get outgeared at some point by raiders. And it's not really possible to raid and pvp on the same toon unless you can literally play 24x7.
Hope they rework the PvP rewards a bit.
I was the first Alliance Rogue on Boulderfist to get Rank 14 in January of 06. I worked a part time job but I put in my vacation to be off for my final week so I could go crazy. I ended up getting the top spot but was 2% short of Rank 14. I planned to go to my friend's for 2 days for my bday but canceled as I needed to grind for an extra week. I knew I didn't need the top spot but I was still #5 to be sure.
Man, that grind was rough. A lot of casters stopped at Rank 13 because the weapon wasn't as big of a upgrade for them. On the outside it seems crazy to stop 1 rank early and not get the weapon or title but when you've done the later few ranks you kind of understand because the last rank alone can take weeks or even a month+ depending what bracket you're in each week.
I've done a lot of crazy grinds and milestones in my MMO days like Halfling Mask in EQ, Shadowmourne in WoW, Gladiator in WoW, and did a ton of high end raiding as all types of classes/specs over various MMOs and expansions and this grind was the roughest and probably my best achievement. I used to play Magic at a local game store and all my friends said I couldn't do it when I first started my journey. When I finally did it they called my Grand Marshal or "GM" for years. I don't go there anymore but they still refer to me as that when telling stories and talking about people.
Man i would watch that kodo documentary
I've amassed more joy (that deep stress relieving laugh... From the soul) from this video and more entertainment value than viewing the Mona Lisa. Ty sir. This was a masterpiece. Statistical data with inside and general humor, all in one convenient parcel. Bravo! Encore! /Throws roses
I always thought the "Scout" rank fit my Hunter the most
I got to Rank 7 back then I couldn't devote that amount of time to go higher. What made me even more sore was that I sold the gear into TBC with upgrades and the Transmog came much later. Thankfully I kept the mounts and you could buy the older PVP pieces if you ever got the Rank. Respect to the people in who could've made this grind. It required a literal life devotion to get it done and I know quite a few people who were very unemployed at this age in the game grinding that Rank.
Looking back on it all, I feel that twinge of regret because I feel like I wasted a lot of my life being so wrapped up in WoW for so many hours each day, wrecking my sleep schedule, giving myself acid reflux from the late nights that lasted into the early mornings to another day of rushing to get to work and hook up on caffeine to get through the day...
I'm happy with it my crappy rank. I can't fathom the stress it was to max.
Oh my god, your editing is so fking guuuuuud
That television part was classic platinum.
10/10.
This system was trash in vanilla, it will still be trash in classic.
Thanks to COVID I got to rank 10 while having a job, deranked to 6, got Might of Menethil and ranked back to 12.
Good times, still think COVID was invented by Blizzard to let us all enjoy the game once again.
The fucking editing holy shit. Best wow vid I've seen in a LONG time
I'd like a full episode about Boar Thrills... :)
WowCrendor made a bunch of them.
Fuck orcs
That's wowcrendor's video and there are tons of them.
Was this the most amazing video I have ever seen? Yes. Yes it was.
I knew a guy from Highschool who hit Grand Marshall back in the original classic. He would come home from school everyday, and be pvping all night until 3-4am in the morning, and show up to school everyday still for a few months straight too even.
Lieutenant-General RopeDrink here. Back in the day, myself and many others helped a chap who was legitimately pushing for High Warlord (and eventually got it). This poor chap had to neglect sleep, life and everything in-between. After all that work, all but the title was meaningless as soon as the game progressed in any way whatsoever. To make it worse, PvP gear really wasn't all that good. Back before resilience was even a thing, PvE gear was still doing infinitely better than PvP alternatives in both PvP and PvE content (and was, arguably, far more accessible). The difference compared to the present, however, is that not many would have had the time or means to fully gear from either content (ie. you were either all-in or you were an unprepared free-kill chump).
Me? I I loved BG's and PvP more than most and was happy with my epic mount and being a Lieutenant-General - but after seeing what High Warlord did for my friend, I left it at that.
I get hyped for the new vids man. You’re my fav classic wow RUclipsr. Keep it up dude ❤️
The end of this video summed up how I felt exactly
It looks like those values in the bracket list were intended as coefficients. Multiply them by 100 to get the percentage.
I was one of the very first Rank 14 players in the EU. I am NEVER doing that again. It literally ruined my life for weeks. I also won the Test of Honor contest on my server. Truly, I had no life, lol.
Kopp203 what did you play, realm and nick? Just curious , and yea. The grind isnt worth it. Its just not unless ur a streamer
@@pinglankek Stormrage, human mage - Sardonyx.
I was 4th Grand Marshal on my server.
It was awful. More like 16 hours a day, but you could afk during queues (alliance). I remember one day the servers went down for the whole day, was the only day during the entire grind I got some decent sleep.
Hope they change it for classic.
They should change it. It was so harmful to peoples health, it shouldn't have been designed this way. Alas, they can't change it, not with the whole fanbase expressing #NoChanges.
@@Hrimstal It's a terrible system and well technically they did change it in TBC but people want the Classic experienced untouched and untainted so i don't see them making any kind of changes.
Dude wtf
Lmao you have the best classic WoW videos on RUclips sir. In my opinion.
Guy: I cant beat the crap out of you without getting close.
Also the guy: A RANGED MAGE
My best friend became rank 14 at one point, I never saw him really.. Sometimes I went to his home to drink and it was me watching him play the same time we got drunk.. 😅 I couldn't imagine just playing 24/7 myself, I preferred going out if someone asked me, of course I was also pretty hooked on WoW and played several hours in a row sometimes..
This was freaking hilarious. I havent touched WoW since WOTLK but vanilla is still some of my fondest memories in 30 years of gaming and Im hyped as F for tomorrows release. Nevertheless I never actually considered hitting 14 back then and neevr will now either. This is NOT what made vanilla such an amazing and unique experience. The world pvp combined with grinding your way to 60 as well as challenging end game raids are what made this game so great. BGs actually always have felt half-baked with AV never actually working properly and people ditching the objectives and just rushing for the general and then Resilience gear came out with BC and totally ruined the game and made everyone look the same and epics didnt mean a thing anymore neither did PvE gear since everyone just rushed for easy broken pvp epics . Classic was and will always be the pinacle of WoW.
I went for r14 in vanilla and i must say it was some of the best times in any mmo even though it was a brutal grind. Many other games have forced me to mindless pve grind to be able to compete in pvp which is my passion. Bdo is the last game i quit that had great pvp mechanics but no way to progress through pvp. If i try classic again i would like to find a good raiding guild to experience the raids, but i would definitely pvp a lot. Go to r11 casual and go for r14 if there is enough time to put in.
R14 grind did make people crazy back in the day. One of the founders of my guild kicked me out because he was going r14 at the same time and did not believe two can make it the same week. He was even account sharing when i was not. Fortunately when the word got out about this i was helped by all the good pvprs of the server and i had the whole week instawin bg parties waiting no matter what time i played. I did beat the villain but as i excpected he also got r14 same week. Whole guild disbanded after that.
All our guild r14 "Monsters of PvP" leaved the game in TBC cause suddenly arena was requiring more skill than grind. I personally think that TBC - WotLK arena reward system was much better than retail or vanilla WoW. I mean, yeah - grinding like there is no tommorow and than getting gear is satisfying, but everyone who can join premade and have a lot of time can do it. While not everyone can get 2 - 2.4k in arenas.
LOL - R14 in vanilla here. 9:30 is so true. It was a MONSTER grind, was literally painful from lack of sleep and lack of being able to get up and move around. This is one of these things where I say fuck you to the #NoChanges crowd. You didn't do it, I did. THIS needs at least a slight nerf in how brutal it is. Also, no matter how hard you go, even if your account was pvping 24/7 you are capped at 12 weeks to get it. better choice IMO is pvp without going crazy to rank 11, let the insane people get rank 14 (as the video says, if 5000 people can get at least 25 kills, then its 15 a week) so like the first 45 or so hardcores get it, then do a hard push. 70 hours/week might make it after 30-60 really hardcore people get it.
Also, To the guys saying "I got rank 12/13 I don't need the weapon, I had Ashkandi/Sulf/DEOI" WRONG. 3.8 speed two handers were better, all there is to it. Only MoM (Which I also had) hits harder but it suffers from mace spec, The GM sword could be better if you got a crit and then a lucky sword spec crit for bursting people down. Also, GM long swords were BIS for DW fury until you kill Kel'Thuzad... then the sword has to drop, and then you have to win it.
I also read somewhere, that R14 receives a teleport spell, allowing them to warp to any "... is under attack!" locations, while also able to use those special chat channels to notify all players there as well.
I do, but I won’t be
Fantastic video once again like you said in the stream the paid guys are a great addition. In no time you'll be a big enough channel to get big man tyrone.
Sick dude, thats a well made video if i've ever seen one!
Nice sense of humor, informative, interresting scenes to just keep watching. 10/10!
I did 10-14 back in the day in a month, but it was 16+ hour play sessions and then botting while asleep / working with a dedicated group who did the same thing.
BOAR THRILLS- Hey, I wanted to watch that...
Fortunatly PVP items don't have anything extra compared to raid items so you can skyp this inhumane grind and still be very competitive as a PVP player with PVE items.
The druid pieces are extremely strong all throughout vanilla, rip me.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE. I had a guy in my guild when I was playing, that as LITERALLY ALWAYS ONLINE until he got rank 14. It's madness.
I’ve never seen your channel before but god I appreciate your style man. Old school wow machinima hasn’t been around for a while and its what made the culture so enthralling before. Plus your long form essay discussion style with quality ass skits and fiver gags. You’re the shit, forsure subbed.
This was really funny, u did good boi!
If anyone hits rank 14 they should automatically be put on a list of people needing an intervention
Edit: 1000/10 for that JoJo skit
Edit #2: Asmongold read my comment on his stream, my RUclips life is complete
After my R14 grind I was so burned out I basically quit playing so much, don't worry, it takes care of itself.
I can still remember my ranking experience in classic WOW 14 years ago. We have a PVP community on our server, players from both factions. We play match-fixing among our community members in Arathi Basin to farm honor, saving us much time to rank up.
5:10 Stunned silence, not that I blame him. That dab was pretty intimidating.
Like for the "Boar Thrills™" documentation
A real vintage indeed
I LOVE BG'S, i didnt like arena too much in BC and what not, classic pvp might be scuffed but no DK's no arenas im in for life
I remember when my aunt, father, cousins and everyone else played WoW. I was the lowest level. I still always had the most kills when we had our weekly PvP competitions. It only got worse for the other factions when I actually started leveling up.
ur editing/animations/sequences pretty op
Well, I may be 29 now. But, I divorced my wife 2 years ago, so yes.. Absolutely. I only made it to Stone Guard in vanillia, lol.
u got this
Did you reach It bro???
Watching this video now preparing in excitement for hitting my rank 14 next wednesday 21/10. It's been 4 months......
GZ
My human mage still has her Commander title from back in the day. Had a lock with Legionnaire title. Man I miss the old days, pre-bg's and when BG's first came out. 12-24hr AV's. Groups of us trying to cap towers, get killed.
That fucking moment at 1:25 was absolutely perfect. Have a sub.
I'm sure someone pointed this out already, but 0.003% out of 5000 is not 15..
0.3% of 5000 is 15.
Oh shit you're right, it's .15. So out of 5000 people, only one would be rank 14.
@@AdonanS no.. have noone here graduated highschool? The video shows the numbers in decimals but the creator faulty added % afterwards. If you check @3:43 you get the real numbers when you remove the %, thus 1 equalus 100% and 0.003 equalus 0.3%, this is the correct formula.
5000 players * 0.003% = 0.15 btw. I think u meant either 0.3 % or 0.003 of all players.
5000 eligible players * 0.0003% = .15 players
5000 eligible players * 0.003% = 15 players
True. Funny how people replying to your comment cannot comprehend basic math.
Okay that skit with the doctor and the dude with the grill was fucking surreal bro wtf
Rank 8 on Nost was a pain in the hoop, so I'll be happy to stop at 10 for the full set bonuses.