His précis of documentaries is so much better for me, I can’t concentrate on something for a few hours so I appreciate the Dr G version and saves time 😂🙈
There is one on Air McNair that made me chuckle. It’s one hour long and I thought it was a complex and deep story. Turns out it’s a simple murder with one question mark but an otherwise very uninteresting case. I sat there afterwards thinking I can’t believe I just wasted an hour on that lol
dude.....i hope ur lying, shes been my girl for a month now.i even pay her and care her with roblux money. ur been scammed by a fake im sorry. hope u get as lucky as me!
This is so sad. I've been in a relationship with Keaunu Reeves for several years & he would never turn out to be a catfish. Although we've never physically met because we're never in town at the same time & sometimes an emergency comes up or can't always afford the airfare (long story), hes planning on publically announcing our 5 year engagemet soon❤. I just wish I could hear his voice over the phone, but he's worried his phone is tapped by lionsgate❤❤❤❤
I’ve been a fan of Tegan and Sara for 10 years and seen them live about 6 times. I didn’t have the energy to watch the documentary so I appreciate the summary as always Dr Grande.
"In the documentary, they combined 'Fake' and 'Teagan' to come up with the word 'Feagan'. I will not be using that." And this is why I watch you. The man has integrity, both to the subject matter and to the English language at large. ;)
I learned many many years ago the reason why celebrities do not really interact with fans is because there are a lot of lunatics out there. A lot of high profile celebrities have received death threats. We don’t hear about them very much, but they happen more often than we realize. So when celebrities seem standoffish, they’re not being snobby. They’re doing it for their own protection because they do not know which fan is a psychopath.
I remember that pretty, young actress who was shot to death at her home in the 1980s. I was a little kid then, & it was shocking. We didn’t have shootings all the time back then despite people having guns hanging on their living room walls, in their trucks, & cars.
So true 👍 I am on a karaoke app and have quite a bit of follower.there is an option to join other's as a duett!!believe me, some people that have a lot of time on their hands jump to join immediately!!it's always in particular one person that joins on EVERY single duett within 1 minute..it gets on your nerves quickly because he can't sing..annoying for sure. So I can imagine what some real Stars 🌟 go through 😅
7:14 Teagan & Sara should hire Coffeezilla. In one weekend's work he'd have the details on who fake teagan is, where they're at, what they had fir breakfast and what they'll be thinking about in an hour.
@@rong2912 Not all musicians are rock stars, or desire to be. Many are just entertainers, with the twins IMO like minstrels of old. btw, how famous are the bands playing in your town? No albums out lately by those near here.
Don't forget about the lamp. Isn't it just lovely? And the pretty green light, just adorable. I'm so excited too, I can't help myself. It makes me want to play my guitar when the sun goes down.
The access to private information makes me think it's either a former lover, friend, or, a former lover who is still a friend and this has access to the personal info mentioned.
@@kyler247he says they made an assertion that thats what happened, that makes sense for the passport and the unreleased music, but not really regarding the mothers cancer. I appreciate your lack of discernment though
Dr. Grande's description of the type and style of music of the sisters would also mimic the style of a group called Modern Talking. Most people never heard of this group, but millions have.
Love your analyses, Dr. Grande. I am a straight woman who just turned 50, and I love Tegan and Sara! I love singing along with their stuff. I agree they don't have the most outstanding voices, but their songs are catchy and pop-y, and I just LOVE them!!
The reason some fans / victims were mad at Tegan, even though they knew the perpetrator was an imposter who tricked them was to ease their cognitive dissonance. It is important to understand how the mind works, as it leads a person to subconsciously come to the wrong conclusion, in order to minimize cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance occurs when strong beliefs are challenged by new data. The mind attempts to reconcile the new data, while also attempting to keep the current beliefs. This causes discomfort and usually leads to the wrong conclusion, as the default setting is to keep the current beliefs. It is easier to fool the people than to convince them they have already been fooled. - Mark Twain
I live in Canada, but don't remember hearing about these girls, because I'm over 60 and don't find his critique brutally savage. In fact, I only remember about the crazed fans of these musicians.
A long time ago I happened to find a video of them singing on Letterman a song called "My Number" and I was like wow look at these young people up on this big stage just singing away without relying on sex appeal sexy outfits or auto tune or big dance numbers. It was just them with guitars. I liked it and found it refreshing to see. I think they just kind of stood out a bit at that time they blew up because we were all being inundated with overblown dancers who weren't even singers really as our main form of pop star. Anyway that's awful there was a faker out there. I hope the girls can find some privacy again and feel safe. And I hope people can find a way back from their delusions and not be mean to the real Tegan.
One of my friends who was in a popular goth band was catfished IRL. She was beautiful and this guy introduced himself as a former member of a band that was seriously famous. This dude was practically an identical twin to the real one. He had a huge house in San Francisco and a weekly gardener, house keeper, etc. Turned out the house was an inheritance from his grandmother and his parents were maintaining the house to eventually sell it. His mother showed up one day totally unexpected and lost her temper because he was supposed to be ensuring workers could enter when needed for renovations. My friend was there for the whole episode and packed her stuff to leave as he tried another bout of pathological lying. It didn’t work. We found out later he had been a roadie for a different famous band for many years so that’s ostensibly how he had an endless supply of insider knowledge.
They were my absolute favorite when I was in high school. I named my dog Tegan 😆 I had two different ppl text me the trailer for this weeks ago. As a huge T+S fan as well as a pretty big True Crime consumer.. my mind was blown! I was in a couple of the main LiveJournal fan pages and at one point someone shared Tegan’s Last FM profile and told us to keep it on the DL…. Which I totally did not after getting intoxicated one day 😆 I sent her a message ratting them out and she replied with something like “Thank you for letting me know.” There was no identifying info on her profile. After watching this I think it probably actually could have been her.
It's always nice to listen to a 10 minute summary of a documentary I'll never watch but whose subject I am mildly interested in learning about. Enjoying the new formats also, keep it up!
It’s not just about talent.. are the songs good? Maybe the fans find the songs catchy, novel, or sentimental.. you don’t have to be Pavarotti to have good music.
I find it weird that some discuss their sexual encounters, preferences, and sex is the center of their universe I don't care who you have sex with and i never have
I don't understand it either, it always came across to me as an attention grab, we've all met that gay guy who has to let the world know he's gay. Today as well the whole 'queer' identity has become trendy so there is certainly a market for it. People have less available to them to be passionate and excited about today, but your sexuality is something that can't be taken from you, so maybe that's why some people go with that, I really don't know.
Likewise. I'm bi and I don't talk much about my preferences, even among my few friends in the LGBT community. So much so that they're surprised. I got asked one time why I didn't embrace my "gayness" more and I said "There's more to my personality than that."
@@janeyrevanescence12 exactly, the lesbian and gay movement really had to advocate for acceptance and rights, dealing with actual discrimination and violence and death. The 'LGBTQ' identity ideology is a trend, and not many of them are actual homosexual women and men. Most are actually heterosexual with a hipster trans/queer 'identity', they have commodified sexuality. Also are many quite homophobic, same sex attraction is now transphobic and anyone can 'identify as' gay or lesbian without being homosexual. I detest it and many gays and lesbian with me. We are not objects to be used and then abused b/c we reject such a homophobic ideology.
I liked Teegan & Sara in the early 2000s, without particularly relating to the lgbtq connection, other than as a passive ally. I will say that it’s the harmony production and catchiness more than their voices or songwriting talent, it is repetitive, but tightly produced ear candy. I thought Dr Grande was going to comment on the not actually gay controversy from 2 decades ago 😂 Always remember folks, if a celebrity contacts you on the Internet, No, they didn’t.
I knew that I had reached a "certain age" when I didn't recognize any of the musical groups at any awards show or on the charts and when all of the bands that recognized were on the classic rock category or being played at the grocery store.
I agree - the criticism he is levelling at their music (basic lyrics, repetitive, simple melodies etc) could also be levelled at a legendary group like the Ramones
Tegan and Sara are great. Their album The Con is lovely. Very layered and emotional. They bring elements of folk and punk together, mixed with other pop influences, so they don't need to be traditionally great singers. Very surprised to learn how narrowly you judge music.
I KNOWWW I was like dr grande were you a victim of fake tegan? Kidding of course, now as an adult I can see they aren’t that great at singing but back when I had MySpace I thought they sounded good lmao
Dr. G youre off base unfortunately. Tegan and Sara blew up because their songs were frequently used on Grey's Anatomy and Walking with a Ghost was covered by the White Stripes which was a pretty big deal in its time. Yes they have been out for a very long time and not afraid to speak on LGBTQ+ adversity, but emphasizing their fame and popularity is tied to being LGBTQ+ is simply incorrect. It was the use in media and their collaborations that made them huge. Also keep in mind Tegan and Sara are from Calgary, a very conservative place in Canada so coming out in the late 90s was incredibly brave and should not be belittled with assumptions.
Sorry....I've lived in "conservative" places all my life and known gay people all my life. No one was weird about it in the past because people minded their own business and didn't make who they banged their identity. This stupid assumption that only liberal people are accepting of the alphabet community is very ill informed, but the media love it so the unthinking just accept it and repeat it over and over.
@darthlaurel lucky you. Here we still frequently have hate motivated assaults against the LGBTQIA2S+ community and the government makes it their agenda to chip away rights and freedoms that were fought for. Please don't generalize as you don't know what it's specifically like in a certain community.
@@darthlaurel I don't understand why we have to make orientation political. People are people and love who they love. That said, people who do not conform to sexual and gender social norms are walking targets to bigotry and it's ridiculous. I live in Calgary and there is a rise of homophobic crimes here so yea it's real and not the media. I work in social services and have so many clients being targets for hate. I have a political leader here who has unveiled 3 bills that will take people's rights away last week. It's systematic here so please don't you dare tell me people mind their own business. You have no idea what you're talking about.
it’s funny that this starts as a catfishing motive then it goes in Dr Grande critiquing Tegan and Sara’s music ability. in my opinion not my favorite video
Well they got a Netflix doc. Apparently they’ve been around for at least 24 years and I’ve never heard of them. I’m pretty old but I’ve heard of Grace VanderWaal.
I loved their song "Speak Slow" because it fit entirely in the most comfortable part of my range, because the harmonies were easy and I could sing either part, and because it was cool that it was two voices that sounded identical. But if that's the *entirety* of your music, I think every song would very quickly sound similar to every other song, and that would get old fast. I hadn't realized they were still popular.
While the band had a large female LGBTQ following, you rightly point out that this is not enough to sustain a successful career. Their audience is huge and extends way beyond that group. The doc highlights their connection to LGBTQ fans to set the stage for the catfishing scheme and to establish the reason why some fans are so fiercely dedicated. But they are massively popular, Juno award winning artists. You're extremely off base with your assessment of their music.
It's not about their music, it's about crazed fans: one of them pretended to be the singer, others needed to keep an intimate correspondence with her. It's about fan's mentality, not the musicians talent...
@@sweetvictory5643 Yeah, I know. I am addressing the fairly long portion of this video where Dr. Grande gives his opinion on their talent, which seems irrelevant
@@CristyReacts Well, a video of his lasts a certain amount of time, he gets prepared and he's flawed like we all. I don't expect of him to be perfect... I wouldn't bother to do what he does, but he does it every day and for that he deserves a medal.
The fans who found out they were being manipulated by the fake Tegan were angry at the real Tegan? That’s so disappointing of them, and points to them having bigger problems.
Interesting case of human psychology. I have been learning that my peer group sooner or later, will often display similar emotions, beliefs, maturity levels , fallacies, etc. - ie needing a real person to blame. I find your analysis is often, thoughtful and accurate- and that type of deeper and unbiased thinking/ understanding is not sought after often enough these days. I find your opinions to be very helpful in ways that i cannot predict- So THANK YOU.’!!!!!❤❤❤
I love Teagan and Sarah yet I don’t know them personally nor am I gay. But I really appreciate the implication I may have mental health issues Dr Grande.
Holy shit, Tegan & Sara! I haven't thought of them in years. Oh no, a catfisher! Turns out Dr. Grande is the last place you want to see someone you admire.
I don't get the LGBTQ factor in music nowadays. Growing up in the 80's no-one seemed to care about that. George Michael and Boy George were huge and yet there was no big deal about their sexuality.
In fact they pretty much kept it under wraps when (esp with Boy George) you could have seen it from space. Still, nowadays the media is obsessed with LBGT topics so it is understandable.
That is always a problem: fans over-identifying and misidentifying with celebrities, as catfishing is a mild kind of thing any celebrities have been linked to. Also, it is *_very obvious_* someone close to the Quinn twins is the catfish. Lastly.. the catfisher most likely believes they don't really deserve their success.. and in a way.. perhaps that person is correct.
It is important to understand they are Canadian, there are few girl bands. They became popular because the Canadian Music industry is small. Their uniqueness made them stand out.
Sounds like another Netflix doc that is 5 times longer than it needs to be. Thanks Dr Grande for summarizing.
Lol! 😂
His précis of documentaries is so much better for me, I can’t concentrate on something for a few hours so I appreciate the Dr G version and saves time 😂🙈
There is one on Air McNair that made me chuckle. It’s one hour long and I thought it was a complex and deep story. Turns out it’s a simple murder with one question mark but an otherwise very uninteresting case. I sat there afterwards thinking I can’t believe I just wasted an hour on that lol
Seriously? When did all that start; When I watched net flics their documenteries were 25 times longer than...ya
exactly
Feagan... "I will not be using that."
Thank you, Dr Grande
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I've just shared this video with my online girlfriend, the actress Margot Robbie, and she said it's rubbish.
Hehehe 😅
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dude.....i hope ur lying, shes been my girl for a month now.i even pay her and care her with roblux money. ur been scammed by a fake im sorry. hope u get as lucky as me!
@@HankHillspimphand lucky man you are 😎
@@HankHillspimphandhahahahaha 😂
I appreciate your rejection of Feagan.
"The documentary used the term Feagan...I will not be doing that." 😂😂
Wasn't that the leader of the child thieves in 'Oliver Twist'? 😊
Amen.
@@TheCatBilbo Fagan
This is so sad. I've been in a relationship with Keaunu Reeves for several years & he would never turn out to be a catfish. Although we've never physically met because we're never in town at the same time & sometimes an emergency comes up or can't always afford the airfare (long story), hes planning on publically announcing our 5 year engagemet soon❤. I just wish I could hear his voice over the phone, but he's worried his phone is tapped by lionsgate❤❤❤❤
Have you tried waiting on a park bench for sad Keanu to turn up and eat a sandwich?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
BWAHAHAHA😂 IM ROLLING
Tell him to put his voice in an envelope and mail it to you 🤔
I am in a relationship with Keanu too. I have to send him $500 per month because he is stuck on an oil rig in Nigeria.
I hope to God that I never become subject to the withering low-key critique by Dr. Grande. I would never recover.
I’ve been a fan of Tegan and Sara for 10 years and seen them live about 6 times. I didn’t have the energy to watch the documentary so I appreciate the summary as always Dr Grande.
Are you Feagan?
Same. They're quite good but I can't bear to watch the doc ☹
@@darklorddisco Sounds like you got your little feelings hurt, sweetie.
@@lesliewoinarowicz7018Why don't you come up with something more original in your trolling attempts, "sweetie " 🙄
Glad you covered this so I didn't have to watch lol. Great points as always. Thanks Dr G😊🤍🤍
"In the documentary, they combined 'Fake' and 'Teagan' to come up with the word 'Feagan'. I will not be using that."
And this is why I watch you. The man has integrity, both to the subject matter and to the English language at large. ;)
I have a particular chuckle that only happens in these very moments of a Dr Grande analysis!
lol I laughed out loud listening while I was folding laundry at that part
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love the brick background and your new angle. Your channel just gets better and better. Your wife is one cool lady, too.
I learned many many years ago the reason why celebrities do not really interact with fans is because there are a lot of lunatics out there. A lot of high profile celebrities have received death threats. We don’t hear about them very much, but they happen more often than we realize.
So when celebrities seem standoffish, they’re not being snobby. They’re doing it for their own protection because they do not know which fan is a psychopath.
I remember that pretty, young actress who was shot to death at her home in the 1980s. I was a little kid then, & it was shocking. We didn’t have shootings all the time back then despite people having guns hanging on their living room walls, in their trucks, & cars.
The term 'Beatlemania' was not an exaggeration. In many instances, it was a good example of actual manic behaviour.
So true 👍 I am on a karaoke app and have quite a bit of follower.there is an option to join other's as a duett!!believe me, some people that have a lot of time on their hands jump to join immediately!!it's always in particular one person that joins on EVERY single duett within 1 minute..it gets on your nerves quickly because he can't sing..annoying for sure. So I can imagine what some real Stars 🌟 go through 😅
I am so happy you finally learned the truth sweetie.
@@BEEGm2w Please learn grammar and punctuation before commenting. Your third grade teacher failed you.
It’s never too early for Dr Grande 👌 Even on Monday morning 4.20am in Perth West Australia. 🇦🇺 🇺🇸
4.20 eh!😅😅😅--'
4:20, you should be asleep, I'm in Canberra, it's 9:30 now. Have to get to Perth, I've never heard a bad word about it.
@@kingcosworth2643 it’s a beautiful place…& I will get to see Canberra for first time soon as I’m visiting friends there ☺️🫶
I've never heard a bad word about 4:20 either. 😅
@very clever! 😅MrsDrGonzo1971
3:38 “just to keep things straight…”
I’m afraid that ship has sailed
LOL
7:14 Teagan & Sara should hire Coffeezilla. In one weekend's work he'd have the details on who fake teagan is, where they're at, what they had fir breakfast and what they'll be thinking about in an hour.
haha these are the kind of comments that keep me wading through garbage in the comment sections.
Who is Coffeezilla? Is he a PI?
@@PolaBeaverhe's a RUclipsr that covers mostly financial scams and such, like crypto rug pulls
"FAN" is shorthand for "FANATIC," after all.
“It is never a good time to give up critical thinking!” Say that again!
I’m in a secret online relationship with a Nigerian Prince! I’m not even gay but I can’t pass up this opportunity! One day he’ll be paying be back!!
Most Nigerian Princes are fans of Teagan and Feagan and Quinn and Finn.
Does he have a brother? Asking for myself 🤴🏾💅🏾
@@MissMiaAfroGoddess He has two brothers - Teagan and Feagan.
By far the most inconsequential event ever covered by Dr. Grande.
I always love your sense of humor, Dr.Grande!
Their song “The Con” is good, I randomly stumbled across it as a 32 year old straight guy, so I’d only listen to it in headphones 😅
Red Belt is also good, imo. And the live verson of Nineteen.
Are you the Feagan?
I also recognize Neil Young's music lol
Damn, Dr. Grande. You roasted the crap out of Tegan & Sara. 😂
Nevertheless, he was 100% accurate.
@@rong2912 Not all musicians are rock stars, or desire to be. Many are just entertainers, with the twins IMO like minstrels of old. btw, how famous are the bands playing in your town? No albums out lately by those near here.
The Doc is a Sir Mix-a-Lot fan
Haha, it's brutal. They're cute and boring.
@@SydneyApplebaum actually they are not even cute
Chuck Norris asked to be my friend on Facebook… I’m 99.97% sure it was Fake Chuck Norris
This happens a lot. For example, "Robert Plant" is in love with me!😂
But you're still holding out hope with that .03%, eh?
@@susanmann5286 oh, well, now I have to be in love with you. A whole lotta love, iykwim;) ...
@@blackopal3138 🤣🤣
I will call him "Fake Chuck Norris" and not the name the documentary uses.
How was this ever even a documentary?
Because gay
I am guessing it was due to the rainbow factor?
Same reason theres a video about said doc.
I really enjoy your videos, please continue putting these out! Perfect for the evenings
The new camera angles are so exciting! Thanks
Yes but the chair in back needs to be moved! Clutter and we can’t see 🌵🌵
I'd rather see Tegan up close.
I agree, it also brings out the warmer side to his personality & makes his sarcasm more likeable (He was starting to sound a bit too Curmudgeonly).
Don't forget about the lamp. Isn't it just lovely? And the pretty green light, just adorable. I'm so excited too, I can't help myself. It makes me want to play my guitar when the sun goes down.
@@FilomenaMary Sweetie, you are so in tuned with your feelings, aren't you? Mary, Mary quite contrary, you are so amazing!
It baffles my mind that a victim of impersonation can be upset at the person being impersonated instead of at the impersonator. How even 🤣
Are you the Feagan?
Celebrity fanatics are not known to be the most stable of individuals.
The access to private information makes me think it's either a former lover, friend, or, a former lover who is still a friend and this has access to the personal info mentioned.
He literally says in the video that the fake Tegan hacked a file server
@@kyler247he says they made an assertion that thats what happened, that makes sense for the passport and the unreleased music, but not really regarding the mothers cancer. I appreciate your lack of discernment though
It could also be a neighbour, or a stalker.
Or maybe it actually was the real teegan. Celebrities do a lot of stuff for attention.
Sounds like the perp is a lesbian Chris Chan.
I love all your analyses, Dr. Grande!! Thank you for this video!
I was walking with a ghost....
Literally 😂
Great song
Dr. Grande's description of the type and style of music of the sisters would also mimic the style of a group called Modern Talking. Most people never heard of this group, but millions have.
🎶 Cheri Cheri Lady 🎶 I've just discovered Modern Talking forty years later and I love them 😊
Is it me or are streaming services like Hulu running out of content ideas?
Exactly, and just so desperate to air anything to do with the rainbow people.
This film was a release that premiered at TIFF this year and did very well. It's not an original HULU or Disney+ creation
@@jogidz That’s my point.
@jogidz its not like it had much competition. All they ever show at TIFF is garbage
Thanks for another interesting video!
Love your analyses, Dr. Grande. I am a straight woman who just turned 50, and I love Tegan and Sara! I love singing along with their stuff. I agree they don't have the most outstanding voices, but their songs are catchy and pop-y, and I just LOVE them!!
Maybe Dr. Grande will review the Milli Vanilli duo Rob & Fab since they are back on the top 10 charts in 2024, after the Menendez Monsters series.
The reason some fans / victims were mad at Tegan, even though they knew the perpetrator was an imposter who tricked them was to ease their cognitive dissonance. It is important to understand how the mind works, as it leads a person to subconsciously come to the wrong conclusion, in order to minimize cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance occurs when strong beliefs are challenged by new data. The mind attempts to reconcile the new data, while also attempting to keep the current beliefs. This causes discomfort and usually leads to the wrong conclusion, as the default setting is to keep the current beliefs.
It is easier to fool the people than to convince them they have already been fooled. - Mark Twain
maga folks are like that...
Came for the analysis, stayed for the brutally savage musical critique.
Yes😂
I live in Canada, but don't remember hearing about these girls, because I'm over 60 and don't find his critique brutally savage. In fact, I only remember about the crazed fans of these musicians.
A long time ago I happened to find a video of them singing on Letterman a song called "My Number" and I was like wow look at these young people up on this big stage just singing away without relying on sex appeal sexy outfits or auto tune or big dance numbers. It was just them with guitars. I liked it and found it refreshing to see. I think they just kind of stood out a bit at that time they blew up because we were all being inundated with overblown dancers who weren't even singers really as our main form of pop star. Anyway that's awful there was a faker out there. I hope the girls can find some privacy again and feel safe. And I hope people can find a way back from their delusions and not be mean to the real Tegan.
Here we go again.. folks are lonely, agitated, depressed, angry and nothing better to do.
One of my friends who was in a popular goth band was catfished IRL. She was beautiful and this guy introduced himself as a former member of a band that was seriously famous. This dude was practically an identical twin to the real one. He had a huge house in San Francisco and a weekly gardener, house keeper, etc. Turned out the house was an inheritance from his grandmother and his parents were maintaining the house to eventually sell it. His mother showed up one day totally unexpected and lost her temper because he was supposed to be ensuring workers could enter when needed for renovations. My friend was there for the whole episode and packed her stuff to leave as he tried another bout of pathological lying. It didn’t work. We found out later he had been a roadie for a different famous band for many years so that’s ostensibly how he had an endless supply of insider knowledge.
They were my absolute favorite when I was in high school. I named my dog Tegan 😆 I had two different ppl text me the trailer for this weeks ago. As a huge T+S fan as well as a pretty big True Crime consumer.. my mind was blown!
I was in a couple of the main LiveJournal fan pages and at one point someone shared Tegan’s Last FM profile and told us to keep it on the DL…. Which I totally did not after getting intoxicated one day 😆 I sent her a message ratting them out and she replied with something like “Thank you for letting me know.” There was no identifying info on her profile. After watching this I think it probably actually could have been her.
Dr grande dragging my taste in music was not expected today 🖤⚰️🖤
In fairness, Neil Young isn't the best singer either.
Or Tom Petty. Or Bob Dylan. Yet, they endure.
@@lucidmemory4146not once you've heard real poetry. It's easy to fool the simple.
@@INatalkaI I don’t get it. So, Tom Petty and Neil young don’t endure?
You’re operating on same big-brain stuff that I can’t comprehend. 🤯
@@lucidmemory4146 Ozzy is in that group too.
@@Ssbad24 absolutely.
It's always nice to listen to a 10 minute summary of a documentary I'll never watch but whose subject I am mildly interested in learning about. Enjoying the new formats also, keep it up!
You have a very relaxing voice • so pleasant to listen to you….
Never heard of them before this video. Always appreciate you Dr.Grande
You have prob heard a few of their songs but never knew who they are. As with most Canadian artists.
Never heard of them and will forget all about them 10 mins after closing this video.
2010s song CLOSER was a big hit of theirs.
Morning Dr G. Happy Monday ❤
Still Sunday here in North America!
It’s not just about talent.. are the songs good? Maybe the fans find the songs catchy, novel, or sentimental.. you don’t have to be Pavarotti to have good music.
Yeah I wasn’t watching for his musical review, so this was odd to hear from him
Sounds like you got your little feelings hurt buttercup.
@@babsbunny_ Agree, his taste in music isn't the be all and end all - just his personal opinion
Sunday night here in Dorset UK.its Dr G time! Woohoo! 🥳
'And of course, was exceedingly creepy' 😂 Classic!
I find it weird that some discuss their sexual encounters, preferences, and sex is the center of their universe
I don't care who you have sex with and i never have
I don't understand it either, it always came across to me as an attention grab, we've all met that gay guy who has to let the world know he's gay. Today as well the whole 'queer' identity has become trendy so there is certainly a market for it. People have less available to them to be passionate and excited about today, but your sexuality is something that can't be taken from you, so maybe that's why some people go with that, I really don't know.
Likewise.
I'm bi and I don't talk much about my preferences, even among my few friends in the LGBT community. So much so that they're surprised. I got asked one time why I didn't embrace my "gayness" more and I said "There's more to my personality than that."
@gutwallst you may not, but for gays and lesbians it can be a great thing. The whole world is heterosexual, becomes pretty boring.
@@janeyrevanescence12 exactly, the lesbian and gay movement really had to advocate for acceptance and rights, dealing with actual discrimination and violence and death. The 'LGBTQ' identity ideology is a trend, and not many of them are actual homosexual women and men. Most are actually heterosexual with a hipster trans/queer 'identity', they have commodified sexuality. Also are many quite homophobic, same sex attraction is now transphobic and anyone can 'identify as' gay or lesbian without being homosexual. I detest it and many gays and lesbian with me. We are not objects to be used and then abused b/c we reject such a homophobic ideology.
Always talked about, by Only a certain crowd. Why is that?
I liked Teegan & Sara in the early 2000s, without particularly relating to the lgbtq connection, other than as a passive ally.
I will say that it’s the harmony production and catchiness more than their voices or songwriting talent, it is repetitive, but tightly produced ear candy.
I thought Dr Grande was going to comment on the not actually gay controversy from 2 decades ago 😂
Always remember folks, if a celebrity contacts you on the Internet, No, they didn’t.
Unless it's DT...
Dont give him your money!@@sweetvictory5643
What Dr. G is saying, is that there's a sucker born every minute. PT Barnum.
I knew that I had reached a "certain age" when I didn't recognize any of the musical groups at any awards show or on the charts and when all of the bands that recognized were on the classic rock category or being played at the grocery store.
Me to😂
Me three, if you are lucky though your music allotment was from the late 80's to early 00's, better than the 60's I feel.
It was a sad day for me when I realized this.
I always think how I've reached the far side of the generation gap 😅
Anyone else think that fake Tegan was maybe from New Jersey? 🙃
I keep saying it but I really like this more conversational Dr Grande. More pls x
They’re no Nickelback
Thank you, Sir! You're the best, Dr. Grande. Keep it up.
Dr. Todd is a very harsh on Tegan and Sara's music! As a heterosexual man I do like lots of their songs!
I agree - the criticism he is levelling at their music (basic lyrics, repetitive, simple melodies etc) could also be levelled at a legendary group like the Ramones
Tegan and Sara are great. Their album The Con is lovely. Very layered and emotional. They bring elements of folk and punk together, mixed with other pop influences, so they don't need to be traditionally great singers. Very surprised to learn how narrowly you judge music.
I agree. I've only heard a handful of their songs and I really like what I've heard. And I like a lot of death metal for comparison
I agree! I don't see how Dr Grande's personal (and entirely subjective/surface level) opinion about T and S's music is at all relevant to this case.
Liking the new format, Dr. G 👍
Your critique of their singing made me chuckle! lol
I KNOWWW I was like dr grande were you a victim of fake tegan? Kidding of course, now as an adult I can see they aren’t that great at singing but back when I had MySpace I thought they sounded good lmao
Good work on this video. Like this more personal form and this camera angle. 👌
Dr. G youre off base unfortunately. Tegan and Sara blew up because their songs were frequently used on Grey's Anatomy and Walking with a Ghost was covered by the White Stripes which was a pretty big deal in its time. Yes they have been out for a very long time and not afraid to speak on LGBTQ+ adversity, but emphasizing their fame and popularity is tied to being LGBTQ+ is simply incorrect. It was the use in media and their collaborations that made them huge. Also keep in mind Tegan and Sara are from Calgary, a very conservative place in Canada so coming out in the late 90s was incredibly brave and should not be belittled with assumptions.
Sorry....I've lived in "conservative" places all my life and known gay people all my life. No one was weird about it in the past because people minded their own business and didn't make who they banged their identity. This stupid assumption that only liberal people are accepting of the alphabet community is very ill informed, but the media love it so the unthinking just accept it and repeat it over and over.
@darthlaurel lucky you. Here we still frequently have hate motivated assaults against the LGBTQIA2S+ community and the government makes it their agenda to chip away rights and freedoms that were fought for. Please don't generalize as you don't know what it's specifically like in a certain community.
@@darthlaurel I don't understand why we have to make orientation political. People are people and love who they love. That said, people who do not conform to sexual and gender social norms are walking targets to bigotry and it's ridiculous. I live in Calgary and there is a rise of homophobic crimes here so yea it's real and not the media. I work in social services and have so many clients being targets for hate. I have a political leader here who has unveiled 3 bills that will take people's rights away last week. It's systematic here so please don't you dare tell me people mind their own business. You have no idea what you're talking about.
I love Neal Young's singing. It stops him from talking.
I think practically all songs are repetitive
it’s funny that this starts as a catfishing motive then it goes in Dr Grande critiquing Tegan and Sara’s music ability. in my opinion not my favorite video
I agree
We ❤ Dr G
I think the catfisher is hiding in plain sight. Who would be the best possible impersonator of Tegan? And beyond suspicion? Her twin, obviously.
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Why would her twin bother to waste energy sending hundreds of emails? I think she had enough to do with writing music and practicing.
Well they got a Netflix doc. Apparently they’ve been around for at least 24 years and I’ve never heard of them. I’m pretty old but I’ve heard of Grace VanderWaal.
@@ritaroadever heard the 2010s song CLOSER it was a big hit. Very commercial sounding.
Or maybe its you!!! Nice job leading everyone to suspect others by the way 😂
I listened to Tegan and Sara in high school. Interesting upload!
Interesting musical analysis here, Dr. Grande.
Fans being angry at the real Teagan for the scan is ridiculous. What shocks me is these people vote.
I use a picture of Dr Grande on my tinder profile, to woo all of the ladies and gentlemen.
It isn’t always about vocal talent. For example: Ozzy Osborne.
Also Ringo Starr 😆
I loved their song "Speak Slow" because it fit entirely in the most comfortable part of my range, because the harmonies were easy and I could sing either part, and because it was cool that it was two voices that sounded identical.
But if that's the *entirety* of your music, I think every song would very quickly sound similar to every other song, and that would get old fast.
I hadn't realized they were still popular.
While the band had a large female LGBTQ following, you rightly point out that this is not enough to sustain a successful career. Their audience is huge and extends way beyond that group.
The doc highlights their connection to LGBTQ fans to set the stage for the catfishing scheme and to establish the reason why some fans are so fiercely dedicated.
But they are massively popular, Juno award winning artists. You're extremely off base with your assessment of their music.
It's not about their music, it's about crazed fans: one of them pretended to be the singer, others needed to keep an intimate correspondence with her. It's about fan's mentality, not the musicians talent...
@@sweetvictory5643 Yeah, I know. I am addressing the fairly long portion of this video where Dr. Grande gives his opinion on their talent, which seems irrelevant
@@CristyReacts Well, a video of his lasts a certain amount of time, he gets prepared and he's flawed like we all. I don't expect of him to be perfect... I wouldn't bother to do what he does, but he does it every day and for that he deserves a medal.
The fans who found out they were being manipulated by the fake Tegan were angry at the real Tegan? That’s so disappointing of them, and points to them having bigger problems.
Plot Twist : Fake Tegan was ... Tegan.
That was my thought...
Or hre twin sister...
Nope. It was Sara! 😂
You just gave away the sequel😃😃
An evil -twin- triplet... 😳😳😳
You don’t ever have to worry about getting catfished. You are one of a kind! Love your channel!
Tegan tried to sell me her elliptical machine in Vancouver.
True story.
I love both of your video styles. I hope you continue with the variety.
with some people the drama never ends
They can’t control the fact that someone decided to impersonate them?
@@rachelrivero4104 cry me a river
Interesting case of human psychology. I have been learning that my peer group sooner or later, will often display similar emotions, beliefs, maturity levels , fallacies, etc. - ie needing a real person to blame. I find your analysis is often, thoughtful and accurate- and that type of deeper and unbiased thinking/ understanding is not sought after often enough these days. I find your opinions to be very helpful in ways that i cannot predict- So THANK YOU.’!!!!!❤❤❤
i like this channel, this guy is the kryptonite to my ADD,
You're watching this video instead of doing something productive. It is the opposite of kryptonite. It is just more ADD heroin.
If I knew the Catfisher was never found and arrested, I would not have watched this because I've never even heard of Tegan and Sara.
I love Teagan and Sarah yet I don’t know them personally nor am I gay. But I really appreciate the implication I may have mental health issues Dr Grande.
Additionally, you could be Feagan.
Holy shit, Tegan & Sara! I haven't thought of them in years. Oh no, a catfisher! Turns out Dr. Grande is the last place you want to see someone you admire.
Keep up the good work, Doctor!
I like the changes dr grande. Less clinical. More personal . Im digging it 👍
i wonder if its a case of not all exceedingly creepy people are psychopaths but all psychopaths are exceedingly creepy people
I think you're on to something there! 😂
Maybe they were creeping out on Sara
Some psychopaths are super nice. Most arent.
Love this format!
Why can’t they track fake Teagan from “her” IP address?? There IS A WAY to find her.
Are you the Feagan?
Because everyone has more important things to do.
Maybe Fake Teagan was using NordVPN
VPN.
I mean a government agency cpuld probably find them, but most have better things to do.
Feagan, not to be confused with Fagin, the Oliver Twist character.
I don't get the LGBTQ factor in music nowadays. Growing up in the 80's no-one seemed to care about that. George Michael and Boy George were huge and yet there was no big deal about their sexuality.
What about David Bowie, Elton John and Freddie Mercury?
people do as they are told and trained to do...they have the alphabet flag everywhere.
@@dollarcostbackpacker1226 The Alphabet Mafia is always on duty.
In fact they pretty much kept it under wraps when (esp with Boy George) you could have seen it from space. Still, nowadays the media is obsessed with LBGT topics so it is understandable.
@@sayitaintso2900 Same point
That is always a problem: fans over-identifying and misidentifying with celebrities, as catfishing is a mild kind of thing any celebrities have been linked to. Also, it is *_very obvious_* someone close to the Quinn twins is the catfish. Lastly.. the catfisher most likely believes they don't really deserve their success.. and in a way.. perhaps that person is correct.
It's surprising to me that the identity of Fake Teagan has not been figured out.
Are you the Feagan?
@@sayitaintso2900 What? is this a serious question?
@@TheGiacchina I think you are Feagan.
@TheGiacchina is this(jk)? It is interesting to think the Feagan watched this video though.
Last but not least: “…was exceedingly creepy”
That never gets old. ❤
It is important to understand they are Canadian, there are few girl bands. They became popular because the Canadian Music industry is small. Their uniqueness made them stand out.
Your beard and mustache had a fiber optic glow 🎆
Neil Young - yup, that's where I'm at too!😂❤